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      356 The Leader, ; [No , 469> March 19, 1...

      356 THE LEADER , ; [ No , 469 > March 19 , 1859 .

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      Imperial Parliament. Monday; March 14. I...

      IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT . Monday ; March 14 . In the House of Lords , Lord Teynham gave notice that on the motion for the second reading of the Church-rates Relief Bill he would move that it be read a second time that day six months .

      ELECTRIC TELEGRAPH GUARANTEES . Lord Stanley of Alderlby moved for copies of all contracts that had been entered into by the Government with any company or individual for the construction or maintenance of electric telegraphs . — After some explanatory remarks from the Earl of Donoughmoee , the returns were ordered . The Ecclesiastical Courts and Registries ( Ireland ) Bill was read a third time and passed . THE NEW CHANCERY COURTS . The Lord Chancellor brought in a bill

      empowering the Court of Chancery to pay 4 , 000 / . per annum out Of the suitors' fee fund ^ by way of rental , to the Society of Lineoln ' s-inn , the latter having agreed , uppii such payment , to erect a building to be appropriated for the sittings of the Equity Courts in the neighbourhood of Chancery-lane . After an explanation of the measure , he assured the House that this bill was not antagonistic , but might even facilitate the grand scheme for erecting new law courts on the present site of Carey-street . The bill was read a first time . . to

      Their lordships adjourned at twenty minutes six o ' clock / In the House of Commons , Mr . Brady gave notice that on Friday next he would ask leave to introduce a bill to amend the qualification and registration Of parliamentary voters in Ireland ...

      • ' ' DOCKYARD EXPENDITURE . Sir J . Paicington , referring to the statements re- , specting naval expenditjore brought forward by Lord Clarence iPaget on Friday night , announced that , in justification of the department , he had thought it necessary to give instructions for the preparation of a return , showing with all possible minuteness of detail the manner in which the money n voted on account of the navy had been expended during the ast eleven years .

      METROPOLITAN DRAINAGE . . Replying to Mr . Williams , Mr . Tite gave some exphinatibns respecting the course which the Metropolitan Board of Works had adopted for the construction of a system of mam drainage in the metropolis , The works had already been commenced , and it was Jioped that they would be brought to completion within a period of four years ; The money required for the work ; amounting to three millions sterling was to be advanced by the Bant of England at 3 per cent ., and it was calculated that a rate of 3 d . in the pound would suffice to repayprbacipal and interest in thirty years . TITLE TO LANDED- ESTATES BILL . on

      The Hou ^ e haying gone into Committee the "Titleto Landed Estates Bill , a prolonged discussion arose , initiated by Mr . Matins , respecting the working machinery and legal effect pf the new court which it vras proposed to establish , and involving also the principles wherein the privilege of a parliamentary title was to be granted to owners of land . The point chiefly controverted related to the ques ^ tion whether sufficient -precautions were taken to secure the rights of possible or future claimants , and avoid the risk of committing injustice by converting and indi

      a bad title into a good one , so depriving - viduals of their equitable rights . The arguments on this question , which assumed an exclusively technical character , were pursued at much length by Mr . Bq-wy « b > Mr . Hjbaplam , Mr . Hadbotlp , Mr . "VVai-pole , Mr . DEASY . Xprd J . Russell , SirE . Perky , and many other members . The ^ oi / iowor-General explaiiae 4 and defended the measure , to which all opposition was ultimately withdrawn , and several clauses passed , by the committee ., « . Tho companion measure , entitled the Registry of Landed Estates Bill , was also considered in committee , and some clauses agreed to .

      SUPPLY COMMITTEE . —THE , NAVAL' ESTIMATES . The reports of the Committees of Supply and Ways and Means were brought up and agreed to . On the order for going into a Committee pf Supply on the Wavy Estimates , MX . W . Wxlliams moved as an amendment that those estimates should be referrc * to a select committee . Since the close of the French ¦ war 281 millions had been granted for the service of the navy , besides many millions pf supplemental votes . Thisenormous , expenditurewft 9 » hecontended , very madcqup . toly represented by the fleet which had "bqon maintained during the period , or by the strength and general condition of , the naval forces now at the dlspesal of tho country . Much more strict invQstii Ration than was now instituted , ov possible , into the mode in whiph tho money had . been spent , vm , he thought , essentially necessary , and a committee ,

      notice having been given on the I 4 th of Ailgust last the treaty would expire on the same day of August next . Negotiations were still pending on the subject , but if they should prove fruitless he should have no objection to lay the correspondence before the House . -Some other business was then dispatched , and their lordships adjourned . The House of Commons had a morning sitting . CHURCH RATES ABOLITION ' . Sir J . TRKr > AWNY moved the second reading of the Church-rates Abolition Bill . —Mr . G-Rii-FiTi r moved ; as an amendment , a resolution , " That any amendment of . the . law relating to Church-rates

      which should exempt persons contributing to the support of some other place of worship than the parish church from the payment of tlie rate , at the same time that the existing machiiiery ' for the support of the fabric of the Church of England should be continued in operation tipon the members of her own communion , is worthy of the consideration of this House . " His speech in support of this amendment embraced a great variety of topics , some of them new to tlie debate upon the . question . He was interrupted by loud shouts of " Time , " " Question , " "Divide , " but without

      maintained his ground flinching ; and took from behind hijii a large bundle of printed papers , which turned out to be reports of societies , and begged to be allowed to read a few extracts . This proposition led to a perfect hurricane 6 f . dissent and uproar . —Mr . S . Estcourt recommended Mr . Griffith , as he had had an opportunity , for nearly an hour , of stating His views , to withdraw his resolution , whicli could lead to no substantial resiiltr-At length Mr . Griffith , having occupied the House an hour and twenty minutes , and having apparently gone through all he had to say , . withdrew his amendment amidst shouts of laughter . .

      Mr . B ; HorE then moved that the bill should be read a second time that day six months . The cry against Church-rates , he said , came from a divided and coihposite party ; the demand for the total abolition of the rates he traced to a political organisation which employed it as a means to an end—the destruction of . Church property . He reviewed the objections to the existing system , of raising tho rates , and suggested remedies , including the exeiuptioh of Dissenters , protesting . against all schemes which invplved spoliation . —The amendment was secondedby Mr . Deedes , ivho ¦ wished , he said , on the one hand , to afford to Nonconformists the relief to which they considered themselves entitled , and , on the

      other , to secure to Chui-chmen the power to carry out what they regarded as a salutary mode of maintaining the fabric of tlie church . —Mr . B . Osborne supported the bill , contending that the time for compromise was past . The question had been under discussion for twenty rears , and many adjustments proposed , but none hiul proved acceptable , and no course was left for closing the controversy but an absolute abolition of the disputed impost . —Mr . S . Wortley declared that after much consideration he had arrived at a similar conclusion . He had always contended against the total abolition of Church-rates , and been anxious for a either

      compromise ; but he thought that all attempts at commutation or compromise were now hopeless . The decision upon Mr . Walpole ' s bill was a declaration that this fester would yield to no remedy but absolute extinction . We had come ton state ot things when tlie existing law could not bo maintained without injury to the Church as well as tnc community . After much deliberation , no nau arrived at tho conclusion to vote for tlie second reading of tho bill . —Mr . S . Herbert objected to tho bill on the ground that it would perpetrate an injustice upon the Church by abolishing the rate witnp ut providing any substitute Church rates ma altered their character immensely within the iasu

      few years . Since a majPrity in the parwu wn «* decide whether there should be a church-rute or not , the whole question had changed , mo present state of things , in his opinion , wouia be preferable te that which would be brought about if Mr . Walpolo ' s bill had passed . Jio was not , therefore , in a hurry to alter tlio 4 ft w . Npt all who ppposed Church-rates were Dissenters ; the rates were resisted from tho common natipntny to a tax . The . bill proposed to remove an "J " * " ; to Dissenters , and its effect certainly ™' . " relieve Dissenters . But how would Churchmen stand ? . The real truth was that tho CHuro" oi England was parochial in tho country / mid congiogatlonal in towns . The nearest approach to a » equitable adjustment of this question was the prononnl n ^ Sir A . "TC 1 t . nn . mid ho would Ul'ffO that , QVCry roi

      selected by the Speaker , appeared to him . the best machinery for that purpose . He noticed particular items , and contended thatLord C . Paget had made out a case for inquiry . —The motion was seconded by Sir H . Yerney . — SirH . Willoughby very much concurred with Mr . Williams , but feared that the inquiry would be too extensive unless confined to some salient points , 'He recommended an inquiry how the estimates could be better prepared . — Mr . Lindsay opposed the motion . He could not see what object would be gained by referring the estimates to a select committee , whicli would be taking away the responsibility of the executive . ^ --Colonel Sykes supported the amendment ; which Sir 1

      was opposed by Admiral WalcottI— < Baring said his objection to the motion was that he did not think it advisable to transfer the consideration of the estimates from the House of Commons to a select committee , or to defer tlie estimates to the end of the session . As to an inquiry , there should be one . Accusations ought not to be made without the House having the means of knoAving whether they were true or not . He referred to experiments made when he was First Lord of the Admiralty , which , though severely ridiculed at the time , had proved highly successful . —After some remarks from Mr . Bentinck , Lord H . "Vane , and Lord C . Paget , Sir J . Pakistcton opposed the amendment , controverting some of the statements on which it was founded . The Board of Admiralty had themselves

      instituted a searching inquiry into the expenditure of money in the dockyards , and the results would , he believed , lead to various recommendations calcuiatfed to promote the public service , and also to exonerate the Surveyor of the Navy and other dockyard authorities from the charge of mal-admiriistration . He hoped the House would reject the motion , which would be only injurious to that service . — Mr . Osborne said , after the charges which had been made by an admiral in her Majesty ' s service , he should not be satisfied without a committee . He disputed Lord Clarence Paget ' s figures and challenged his facts , and pledged himself to controvert his statements before the committee .- ^ -Sir C . Napier recommended the withdrawal of the motion . - ^ Mr . Jackson and Sir C- Wooi > hay ing briefly . spoken , the amendment was negatived without a division . -

      DESTRUCTION OF THE 26 TH NATIVE INFANTRY . Mr . C . Gilpin called attention to the destruction of the 26 th Native Infantry at Ujnalla , on the 1 st of August , 1857 , as detailed in a work entitled " The Crisis in the Punjaub , " by Frederick Cooper , Deputy Commissioner of Umritsur . The hon . member recapitulated the incidents of the transaction , and denounced the conduct of Mr . Cooper , under whose orders the 26 th Eegimentj numbering 500 sepoys , had , he insisted , been cruelly massacred without trial or necessity . — General Thompson expressed indignant reprobation of the atrocity in question ,: and . alluded to some other occurrences in which he said British officers

      had played the disgraceful part of executioners . — Lord Stanley said it was impossible to deny that the transaction could n ° . t he heard or read of without pain and regret ,, and the pain was greatly increased by the tone and spirit in which the transaction had been described in the dispatch at the time , and in a book subsequently published . After detailing the circumstances connected with the transaction , he observed that these men were insurgents , who would have joined the rebel army $ that , in the critical state of the Pungaub at the time , a large force of disarmed sepoys being in tho neighbourhood , a severe example was necessary to prevent similar outbreaks , and that those facts should bo taken in mitigation or palliation of the transaction . Delhi was not then taken , great alarm and peril prevailed , the sepoy ' s of the regiment had murdered two t tneir it wouia

      o . omcers , ana tney nap escapea beyond doubt have joined the ranks of the insurgents . The superior authorities in India , Lord Canning , Sir John Lawrence , and Mr . Montgomery , had at the tirae . approved of Mr . Cooper ' s act , as having been justified by necessity . At this distance of time and place it was difficult to judge fairly the conduct of men engaged in a desperate struggle , and he suggested that the most appropriate sentence the House could pronounce on the transactions would be to pass it over in silence . —Tho suggestion was adopted , and the subject allowed to drop . The . House then went into a Committee of Supply , and passed several votes , belonging to the naval estimates amidst a miscellaneous discussion , which chiefly occupied the remainder of tho sitting . The House adjourned at a quarter to oho o ' elock .

      Tueaday , March 15 , THE ) STADB JJUJK 8 . In the House pf Loitps , the Earl pf Clarendon asked Lprd Malmesbury , whether the treaty with Hanover relating to tho Stade Dues would terminate on tho 14 tU of August next , and whether the correspondence on tho subject would bo laid before tho House .- —The Earl of Malmksburv replied that

      place and parishshpuld be allpwed tP dotenninc itself , which would put an end to all dis ^ onsion-Unless spme such change was introduced » n «> t »> ° bill , ho must ypto against tho second roading .---Mr . Paokw and Lord 3 , Manners spoko njrainst tno secpnd reading of the bill , and Mr . Gkmicn woob >" its faYour . —Slv J . Tttip ^ AWNY briefly rcpUoil , ami

  • Citation
    • Leader (1850-1860), March 19, 1859, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_19031859/page/4/