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      The Budget is postponed once more . Ministers are to be put on their trial on the 25 th ( Tuesday week ) and therefore they haye come to the conclusion th » t it wU be 93 well not to trouble themselves Butting a budget ^ together for Monday evening when tfe vote of the following night » ay turn them out of Down ing-street . LorfJ John JluaseUs explanation of the way in which " the Queen ' s Government' is to be carried on seems almost like a foregone conclusion . Mr . Plumptre having asked him whether he would go on with the estimates on Monday , or with the Papal Aggression Bill , supposing the debate to be adjburaed , Lord John said ;—

      " I do not intend to go on with the estimates on Monday , if the debate to-nig ht should be adjourned ; but fo go on then With the adjourned debate , ( ffear , hear . ) I may as well take this opportunity also of making a Btatement to the House with respect to the notice which I gave the other night , that on Friday next my right honourable friend , the Chancellor of the $ xcbea . uer , would state the alterations which he proposed jn his financial arrangements . Since that tune—oh Tuesday last—the honourable member for Inverness-shire ( Mr . Baillie ) has given notice of a vote of censure up . n the Government , with respect to the administration of affairs in Ceylon . I wished to ask a question of that honourable member with respect to . the terms of his resolution , but I believe that he is out of * town , and I shall therefore postpone the question till Monday . In the meantime I wish to state to the House ,

      that , as there is a vote of censure against the Government now pending , I fcope honourable members wno have notices for the 26 th—the- night frr which that resolution stands—will give way , in ordpr that a quesjipn directly affecting the fate of the Government may be brought to a " n issue . ( Hear , hear . ) I must likwise say that I do not think it right , when a vote of censure is hanging over our heads , that we should piopose our financial arrangements for the year —(¦ ' Hear , ' find laughter );—and , therefore , I certainly will propose to wait until it is decided whether we or any future Government shall bring forward the financial arrangements of the year ; and tha . t I trust my noble friend the member for Bath , whose name stands first on the notices of motion for that night , and also the honourable member for Montrose , who also has a motion for the same occasion , wil ) give way , and allow the motion of censure to come on . ( Hear , hear . )"

      Lord Ashley expressed his willingness to make the proposed arrangement , if other Members were willing . Sir Robert Inglis asked when the Jewish Disabilities Bill would be brought forward- Lord John said he expected to proceed with it on Tuesday . Failing that , he should certainly proceed with it as speedily as possible . Mr . Moore complained that Ministers were leaving the imperative questionsthose of finance and taxation , and occupying the session with business of a much , less urgent nature . He was not at ull inclined to join in any factious opposition to Government ' under reasonable circumstances . " ( Laughter . )

      " But if the noble lord persevered in attempting to press measures respecting which , though people might feel anxious , they were hy no means impatient , if the noble lord persevered in that there was no course , 'however factious , which ( Mr . Moore ) would not feel himself warranted in pursuing ; and he thought he had a full right to do so when there was uot a Government , but a provisional machine made for oppression . If the Jficclesiaatical Titles Bill were proceeded with in any unfair or hurried , manner he should certainly move adjournments . "

      Mr . W . Wi ! liams charged Government with great neglect for not having taken measures to make a House on Thursday evening . He could not help thinking that impediments were thrown in the way of forming a House and proceeding with the public business . He had had a motion on the paper of the greatest importance , involving an expenditure of £ 7 , 000 , 000 of the public taxes , which were expended iu direct violation pf what he considered to be constitutional principles . Sir Chalks \ yooi > had been quito as much disappointed an the honourable member for Lambeth . He hud come down fully

      prepared for the diecunBion , with his box under his arm . Mr . T . Dun comb b had al ways found that Ministers oould easily make a House when they really wished to do bo . Huu they been in earnest about jtjb . e Jewish Disabilities JWl , which stood for lwt evening , they would no * hja # | B been so negligent : — " &X the time wh . * n the jttpvue lujjowrpjed la » . t evening , none of the members of the Government aot any pf . their underlings were present with one exception , the Secretary or the Treasury ; he was there * alone in his glory . He might remind Ihe noble lotd of what Mr . Canning ** s nccuatomed to say with regard to a Very ornamental , bu , t not very useful portion of the GQvern , ii } eiit- —the

      Lords of the Treasury . Mr . Canning held that their first duty was to make a House , their second to keep a Rouse , and their third to cheer the Minister . ( A laugh . ) The noble lord ought jto avail himself of that hint , arid put up a notice in all the public offices to the effect , that the Lord ? of the Treasury were expected to perform those duties . " Lord J . BtrsSELii said that he and the Secretary to the Treasury were as much disappointed as any one at there being no House , for the Government lost more by such an occurrence than any private member possibly could . The Secretary to the Treasury assured him that he used every exertion to make a House . {' Hear , and a laugh . ) 41 Mr . IJarnard rose to state , in confirmation of what the noble lord had said , that though he was not an underling of the Government , yet hie had received a note from the Treasury requesting his attendance yesterday

      evening . "MT ' Eayter assured honourable gentlemen that he had use 4 his best endeavours to secure a sufficient attendance of Members to make a House , lie had taken all the measures that were usual , and he regretted to say tb ? . t he was unsuccessful—be did not succeed in inducing tyembers to attend . (• ' Hear , ' and laughter . )" Altogether , the impression , from what took place in the House last evening , is that Ministers feel that they are doomed to fall at no distant period , and that their followers have lost all confidence in them . If Ministers used every effort to make a House find failed , wh ^ t must we think of their power to carry on the business of the Session ?

      The debate on the second reading of the Ecclesiastical Titles Sill was opened by the Earl of Awnvbl and Str&Bpy , who moved that it be read a second time that day six months . Jle contended that the creation of thp Roman Catholic hierarchy in England had been required for the good of that Church , and denied that the Papal missive was either an insult or an invasion of international law . Mr . Reynolds , in seconding the amendment , said he rejoiced that Ireland had been included in the bill , because the Irish Catholics were strong , and could offer constitutional resistance to it . He went on to ridicule Lord John Russell's

      6 th of November letter- [ Lord John : The 4 th of November } . Mr . Reynolds thanked him , for the correction . At any rate it was a very appropriate epistle for Guy Fawkes Day . A . great deal had been sajd about ' the insolpnt aggression of the Bishop of Rome , ' but what had that contained which would compare with the offensive epithets used by the bishops and archbishops of the Church of England in speaking of the clergy of the Catholic Church ? — " An intelligent friend of civil and reljgious liberty , inquiring whether the Protestant or Catholic bishops had been most violent , extracted the following sentences from the replies of the Protestant bishops printed in the Times

      since October last : Popery offends and disgusts the understanding . ' —London . ' Popery can only hope for acceptance on the ground of an uniuquiring ignorance 'London . It teaches the duty of worshipping the creature with the worshi p due only to theCreator . '—Ditto London . ( A laugh . ) This was the prelate who preached temperance of language , ( ffear , hear . ) ' Audacity of the pretensions of the Church of Rome . ' — London . ' Base ingratitude of the Romish Church . '—London . For what was the Church of Rome to be grateful ? "Was it for what was taken from it in the remarkable reign of that virtuous Monarch Henry VIII ., who took from it the temporalities that now amounted l < > £ 10 , 400 , 000 a-yeur ?

      ( Hear ) ' To submit to her is to peril our eternal salvation . '— London . ' The Popish system . '—Peterborough . 1 The Romish schism , its unchanging character of evil 'Bath and Wells . 'An antichristian power . '—Hereford . ' We are not so degenerate as to be beguiled into the snare which her ever wakeful ambition is plotting for our captivity and ruin . '— York . ( A laugh . ) ' That superstition . ' —Gcocesterand Bristol . ' foreign bondage . '—Salisbury . ' Papal assumptions are all but blasphemous . "—Gloucester and Bristol . ( A laugh . ) 'An unholy thing . ' —Gloucester and Bristol . ' The Church of Rome roars when necessary , but has the meekest and mildest blandishments when it suits her purpose . ' — Oxford . ( A laugh . )

      ' A subtle and determined enemy . '—Oxford . ( A Cawjh . ) Tyranny of the Church of Rome . '—Llandaff . ' Our common enemy' —Llandaff . ' An erring and corrupt Church . ' ' — London . ' Subile and unclean . '— Oxford . ( A laugh . ) ' Apostate Church . '— Hereford . ' England denied by her pollutions . ' —Oxford . ' Her arrogant pretensions . ' — Chichester . "Her unchristian intolerance . ' — Chichester . ' Her tyrannical attempts . '—Chichesier . 1 Her baseless , unBcriptural authority . ' — Chichester . ' Her arrogant and vain assumptions . '—Chichester . ' Her apostacy from the truth . '—Chichester . ( Laughter . ) 'That corrupt and domineering communion . * —Oxford . ' Her wilfully blind intolerance . ' —^ . David ' s . ' 1 he curuu of Popery . '—Oxford . ( A laugh . ) ' Poisons the minds of the people by falae and insidious arguments . '—Rochester .

      ' That corrupt brunch of the church . —uangor . ' An artful and implacable enemy . '—Rochester . The insidious encroachments of the Papacy . '—Bangor . ' The powers of darkness . '—London . ( Laughter . ) 'Her claims profane , blasphemous , and anuohmtian . ' — Carlisle . Her selfish aggrandizement . '—Hereford . ' The greut apoatacy of Pupal Rome . '—Hereford . ' The system of the Papacy a cunningly devised w , ho ) p . ' — Oxford , [ daughter ) Tne honourable gentleman , after quoting other exprrppiohs of a similar character , proceeded to say that he would ask the House on which side did it think was the balance of scolding ? For his own part ho di d not believe that ever fishfag at tiillingegute umcU worse language in their abuse than had these moat reverend ' and right reverend prelates in speaking of th ? ir

      brother-Christians , in vilifying through all the moods and tenses of abuse , men who had not done them one particle of mischief . " He warned Lord John Bussell that unless he retraced his steps , and attempted to gpvern Ireland , not by garrisons , but by justice , he would neither have Catholic votes in the House , nor Catholic support out ofit : — " It was tolerably clear that in th « great struggle now going on between the two great parties in the House which was to have power and place , the Irish Roman Catholic members had no chance of either the one or the other themselves : but let " this jbe understood by

      both parties , that between their nicely-balanced ranks the Irish Roman Catholic representatives had it in their power to turn the scale one way or the other , and to place which party they pleased on the Ministerial bench . ( Hear , hear . ) And hereupon he would make an offer ; he was in the market —( a laugh)—he was to be bought , and he believed a few others who thought with him were to be bought in like manner—( hear , hear )—and this was his price , this the condition on which he was prepared to aid in transferring one party from , and the other to the Treasury bench ; first , that this bill be entirely and totally withdrawn ; secondly , that there be introduced measures calculated to save the millions in Ireland from

      dying , as they were at present dying , in the workhouses , for want of that food which is abundant , and at drug price—that they would introduce measure ' s calculated to relieve the agricultural interest of Ireland—that they would do justice to the Irish . distillers and spirit dealers by placing them upon an equal footing , at all events , with the importers of foreign rum and brandy , and that they would take into their consideration that Ireland was an integral portion of the British empire , not for purposes of oppression and aggression , but for the purpose of laying the foundation

      of her prosperity , and making her what God and nature intended her to be , the right arm of this mighty empire , and n » t the drag-chain upon her prosperity . ( Hear )" Sir B . Hail , Sir Robert Peel , Sir R . Inglis , and Mr . 3 Page Wood supported the bill . Mr . R . Palmer opposed on the ground that such a measure is not required . He was more afraid of the injury which false and erroneous legislation would inflict upon civil and religious liberty than , of any possible political danger from the aggression of the Chuich . of Rome . He admitted that the act of the Pope seemed to be arrogant and presumptuous ; but the most dignified and the wisest course was not to resent as an insult

      what had never been intended as such . Mr . M'Culla gh protested against the bill as an invasion of the right of private judgment . On the motion of Mr . Moore the debate was adjourned till Monday .

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      Lord John Russell has deferred the bringing forward the budget in consequence of the threatening motion about Ceylon . We fear that the session is lost , even for the casti » ation of admitted abuses . At a meeting held by the Conservatives at Lord Stanley's , on Thursday , the Conservatives who voted with . Lord Duncan were blamed for seeking to precipitate a premature crisis . — Daily News . The case of Metairie v . Wiseman , after having fully occupied the Vice-Chancellor's Court for nearly nine

      days , has been postponed till next week , owing to the illness of Mr . Bethell , who was suffering from a severe co d , and was , therefore , unable to reply yesterday . After some conversation , it was agreed that the fund should be transferred into court in this cause , and also in the information which , as already stated , has been filed in the name of the Attorney-General , to establish and administer the charity founded by the endowment in question . The costs of the motion were agreed to be reserved ; the fund to be transferred to the Accouutant-General on or

      before the 15 ty of April , and the dividends received and accumulated until the hearing of the cause . A rather alarming railway collision took place on the South-Eastern Railway yesterday morning . The 7-30 a . m . parliamentary down train left the London-bridge terminus within three minutes of the proper time for its departure , and proceeded safely past the Bricklayere ' Arms Junction , at the usual rate of speed—about eightem miles an hour . It hud crossed the junction points , ami , propelled by two locomotives , was rapidly passing on to the New-Cross Incline , when the first engine came suddenly into contact with the Brighton coal train , which , by some unaccountable negligence , was at the moment being shifted from the { Surrey Canal

      " elding ' on to the down line . The collision was a very severe oiie , and occasioned great alarm among the passengers , of whom there were a very large number . Both the engines of the passenger train were disabledone of them was almost shattered to pieces—and four or five of the coal-trucks ware destroyed As soon us the shock occasioned hy the collision Luul subsided , thot-e passengers who had sustained the most seiiouB injuries , two ludics and ou « gentleman , were removed from the train , and conveyed back to London . The names of the parties aie , M . and Mademoiselle Vautini , the son and daughter of M . Vautini , presently proprietor of the .

      Pavilion Hotel at Folkestone , and a Mi « s Wollautoii , a friend of Mademoiselle Vuuiini . Miws Wollasttm haH a slight contuHcd wound on the fprehetd , and Mademoiselle Vuutini has sustained some injury on the upper lip . Thomas Drory , who was convicicd at Cnelmsford Asdizes of the murder of Jael Denny , ha « confessed his guilt . He say » he had meditated committing the crime for some time , and had carried about the rope with him for that purpose . Mr ** . Cheobam , the poisoner , who waii convicteci at the Bitme auaizen , continues to assert her innocence . She admits having taken off neveral persons by arsenic , but says it was the doctor who poisoned her husband .

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      " — " ¦~ T / O fcEAp $ R 8 ^ lND COBBESPONpENTS . . i mpossible to acknowledge the mass of letters we receive . Their insertion is often delayed , owing to a press of matter ; d when omitted it is frequently from reasons quite independent of tha merits of the communication . Communications « hould al * raya Jbe legibly written , and on one side of the paper pjjl y- M long , it . # BQrea » e » toe diftculty of Ending space for tte » . . All letter * for the Ed $ J » r to be addressed J ? , Crane . coiur $ , Flee * r Btreet , liondon .

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      Postscript. Saturday, March 15.

      POSTSCRIPT . Saturday , March 15 .

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    • Leader (1850-1860), March 15, 1851, page 245, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1874/page/9/