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should think proper , " the clause mentioning as one subject for inquiry " whether any corrupt practice by way of treating- has been carried on at any such election " Lord Derby proposed to strike out the words " for such a period retrospectively as they should think proper / ' and to introduce words providing that if the commissioners found that there had been corrupt practices at the election which was the subject of the report of the committee , they might inquire into the next previous election , and so on in like manner from election to election , as far back as they should think fit , until they reached an election where , upon inquiry , they found no corrupt practices to exist , and then they should not inquire further back . He also proposed to strike out the words relating to treating .
The amendments , limiting the period to which the inquiry was to be carried back were agreed to without a division ; but the amendment , that the words extending the inquiry to treating be struck out , was carried by 68 to 35 . The remaining clauses were then agreed to , and their lordships resumed .
CRIME AND OUTRAGE , IRELAND . Mr . Napieb , at thp morning sitting on Tuesday , moved for leave to bring in a bill to continue an act of the 11 th and 12 th years of her present Majesty , for the better prevention of crime and outrage in certain parts of Ireland . " The present Act was of that nature . It was passed when a crime of a peculiar character was prevalent in Irel and , and which the ordinary l a w of the land could not cope with . It gave a power to the Lord Lieutenant , under especial circumstances , to proclaim any particular locality ; and then he sent down an additional police force to that
locality , at the expense of the locality . There was nothing coercive or severe in that . The act then applied the provisions of the Whiteboy Acts to the districts so proclaimed . That code in itself applied only to th o se portions o f the countr y which were in an insurrectionary state ; but by the Act which he now wished to prolong it was m a de t o ap ply to districts that were proclaimed . One of its most valuable provisions was the making persons who harboured criminals amenable to justice . T he a ct also enabled the L ord Lieutenant to call upon persons to surrender their arms ; and no persons were allowed to have arms in their possession unless they were licensed . "
Mr . Napier drew an appalling picture of the agrarian Outrages—which had doubled in number since 1847—the threatening notices , the murders for which no conviction could be obtained , juries being , he said , intimidated from performing their duties . In this state of things , when the ordinary law was insufficient for the protection of life and property , the House , he thought , would incur a fearful responsibility if it refused to continue this act for a limited period .
Mr . Lawless should oppose the introduction of such a bill , unaccompanied by any measure for ameliorating the condition of Ireland . Mr . F . Scully opposed the bill on the ground of the severity of its provisions , and because the outrages against which it was directed arose from the disordered relations between landlord and tenant , for which remedial measures had been promised in 1847 , but the promise had not yet been redeemed . Mr . S . Ceawpobd likewise called for remedial measures before coercive ones were enacted . The whole cause of agrarian outrages in Ireland , he believed , was to bo found in the disordered relations between landlord and tenant . Mr . Anstey followed in the same line .
Mr . Keooh complained that the present Government , notwithstanding former professions , had introduced no measures for the redress of the grievances of Ireland , except this coercive measure , against the severe penalties of which ho inveighed . Ho disputed the accuracy of the statistic ? of crime adduced by Mr . Napier , which were at varianco with a recent official return laid before the committee , allowing a decrease of crime ; and contended that no chko hud been mndc out for a bill like this , which , ho observed , taught landlords in Irclund to roly upon the legiHlution of thut Houso instead of , as in England , upon their own conduct . denied that
The Chakoeuob of the Exohequek this was a measure of coercion ; it was a measure of police , which was expiring , and tho condition of Ireland required its continuances With respect to remedial mouKiires , such incumiroi , ho said , had boon already prepared by tlio Government ; but lio asked whether any member , looking at tho position of tho ministry and tho temper of the Houso generally in tho transaction of public business , could really say tllat it hud been in their power to introduce them . Tho Government could not incur tho responsibility of lotting this Act expire , which would release great mminuln ; but tho bill was to continue only until next Decombor , so that tho subject muHt bo reconsidered in tho ensuing Parliament . _ .
Upon a division , tho motion for leavo to bring in tho bill was carried by 140 against 19 . Tlio Houbo then adjourned , until tho evening ; whon there wuh u
" count out . " Mr , Anstey was making a statement of the case of the Scotch missionaries expelled from Hungary by the Anstrian Government , when Mr . Plowden , a conservative , moved that the House be counted .- This was done , and there were found to be only thirty-seven members present / eight Conservatives and twenty-nine Liberals , and the House stood adjourned accordingly . * Mr . Anstey complained , on Wednesday , of several irregularities in taking divisions , and among other things alluded to the " count out . " " Ministers were last nig ht planning a c oun t o ut for the purpose of stifling a discussion on JJord Malmesbury's
conduct ; but there were considerably more than iorty members present when an hon . member moved that ^ House be counted ; the hon . memberfor Montrose noticed that there were gentlemen present actually hiding themselves ; there were three members of the Government behind the Speaker ' s chair . He ( Mr . Anstey ) wished to ask whether the House had no power to compel the presence of hon . members at the table or in their places for the pur p o se of being c o un t ed when wi t hin the H ouse , as the House and the chair had power to compel thenrpresence at the tables or in tbo House , in order to havo their votes recorded ? If not , he gave notice that he should propose a standing order to prevent the recurrence of such disgraceful proceedings . " The Speakeb stated the rule of the House with
respect to the voting of members . . "No member had a right to rote unless he were in the House and had heard the question put . Before the question was put and a division taken , i t wa s t he dut y of the Sergeant-at-Arms to clear tho door and the lobby . It once o c c urred that a member was found i n t h e lobb y after it had been cleared . He was called to the table and asked if he had heard the question put . He said that he had not , and the Sergeant-at-Arms was then directed that the hon . memb e r m i ght withdraw . With respect to the third question , the hon . member knew that whenever an hon . member to ok no t ice tha t t here w ere no t f o rty members present
the House was incompetent to transact business . ^ The d o o r s w e r e not lo c ked , bu t w e re kept open ; and , till the Speaker actually counted the House , every member was entitled to withdraw . If there were 100 members in the lobby , there was no power to enforce their attendance . H i s attention ha d been rath e r i rregu la rl y galled by the hon . member for Montrose to members behind the chair , because no hon . member had a rig ht t o addres s the ch a ir under those circumstances ; but he ( the Speaker ) actually counted twice over . The rule , however , was , that no member could be counted xmless he were actually within the House , and the chair had no authority to order his attendance . ( Hear , hear . )"
MAYNOOTH . The wretched squabble about the College of Maynooth has been kept up all the week . On Monday , or rather ou Tuesday morning , at half-past two , a . m ., Mr . Spooneb made an effort to obtain either a continuance of the debate or a division . Finding he was likely to be beaten , he declared that he should consider all votes given for the adjournment of the House as given against his motion for inquiry . This of course called forth a storm of protests . The Chancellor of the Exchequer said , that if
tho House did not agree to the adjournment , the hon . member opposite ( Mr . V . Scully ) would be in possession of the House and would continue his speech . It was then his ( tho Chancellor of the Exchequer ' s ) intention , with the greatest respect for that hon . member , to go home . ( Shouts of laughter . ) Sir U . Halt , said , that if tho debate was to be' resumed that night , he should bo very happy to pair off with tho rigl . it hon . gentlemKn opposite ( tho Chancellor of the Exchequer ) , and go home too . ( Laughter . ) But if tho hon . member for North Warwickshire wished the debate proceeded with ,, he . lit to etay nnd liaton to tho hon . gentleman . ( Hear , hear . ) If ho remembered rightly , tho hon . member ( Mr . V . Scully ) loft off his speech at' tho year 1814 ; he had , therefore , thirtyeight years still to go on with . ( Renewed laughter . )
Tho motion for the adjournment of tho Houso was then lost by 103 to 29 ; whereupon Mr . Spooner said the vote indicated the feeling of the House . Mr . Gladstone protested , " on behalf of tho meaning of w ords , " against that construction . After some further idle talk tho House adjourned at three o ' clock . But tho next day , like tho promptings of a guilty conscience , tho motion came up again . In vain members tried to obtain some specific reply from Mr . Spoonor . All ho would say was that ho took tho division of the preceding night as a division on tho main question , and that ho had no intention of giving any notice at all of what ho should do with tho order of tho day for resuming tho debate . And so the matter Htando . MR . FEAKGU 8 O ' CONNOR . In consequence of tho medical certificates , Miss Hurriotto Browne O'Connor , tho sister of tho honourable member for Nottingham , petitioned tho Houso to allow her brother to bo placed in u lunatic asylum . Accordingly , a select committoo was appointed , on Tuesday , and on Wednesday Mr . WALroMa brought up its report , which wan to tho following effect :
" The select committee appointed to inquire into tlr facts contained in the petitionof Harriette Browne O ' nor , s t atin g her belief t ha t he r broth e r , Mr . Feareua O'Connor , is of unsound mind , and praying that he mav be disch a rged from c us t o dy , in order that he may be utomediately placed in confinement under proper medical treatment , have considered the matter to them referred and agreed to the following report : —Your committee have inquired into the facts contained in the petition presented by M iss H a r ri e tte B rowne O' C on nor ,, praying , that Mr Feargus O'Connor , b e ing a lunati c , may be discharged " from custod y , in order that he may be immediately placed in confinemen t unde r p roper medical t r eatment , and they find that the same are true . It appears by the evidonoo
of Mr . Lawrence and Dr . Tweedie that they have separately visited and pe rsonall y examined Mr ; Fearijus O' Connor , and they have each of them certified according to the statute that he is of unsound mind , and a proper person to be confined . It further appears by the evidence of the p et itioner , that afte has requested Dr . Tooke to receive her brother into hi $ private asylum , at Chiswiek , and that Dr . Tooke is willing to do so , according to the arrangements which have been made for that purpose . The petitioner is the nearest relative of Mr . O'Connor in Engl and j arid she has sig ned the ord e r req u ir e d b y the s t a t ute reques ti ng Dr . Tooke to receive Mr . O'Connor as
a patient into his house . X committee have thoug ht i t ri ght to ask Dr . Tooke and Miss O'Connor wtetlier tlicy would be willing 1 ip give tax undertaking that Mr . O'Connor should not be removed from Dr . Tooke ' s asylum without previously obtaining the permission of the House and they have given such undertaking accordingly . Under t hes e ci rc umst a nces , your committee beg . leave to recommend to the House that Mr . Feargus O'Connor be dischar g ed from the c us t od y of the Sergeant-at-Arms , i n order that lie may be forthwith removed i nt o the a sy lum of ! Dx . Tooke , who is willing to take the necessary steps for conveying him there immediately . "
Mr . GouiiBtTRN observed , that it was stated in the report that certain parties had entered into an understanding that Mr . O'Connor should not be removed from , the lunatic asylum without leave of the House . He wished to know whether that was intended to apply to the present session only ? Mr . Walpole replied in the affirmative . It was then moved , and agreed to > that Mr . O'Connor be discharged from the custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms without payment of fees .
MISCBLLANEOITS . The doings in both Houses on Thursday were of a very miscellaneous character . The Lords rejected a bill withdrawing from the jurisdiction of the Ecclesiastical Courts certain criminal offences , such as brawling in the church , and the like , by 68 to 45 ; on the ground , mainly , that it was piecemeal reform . The Copyhold Enfranchisement Bill went through Committee—the Lord Chancellor approving .
In the House of Commons , among other matters , there was an important petition from New South Wales ; tho purport of which was as follows : — " The Council declared it a duty the y owed t o t h emselves and to posterity t o r ecord their d eep d issatis f ac t ion withtha constitution of the 14 th of Victoria , c . . 76 . They were dissatisfied with the administration of the waste lands and ol tho revenues generally of the colony , and they found to their great regret , that the land schedules were increased instead of being abolished . As the last act of their legislativ e exis t ence , no other courso was left to them than to protest against the imperial p o lic y ; to declare and xo " monstrate against it , and to enter that protest and declaration unon three erounds . They declared , first , that tlier oi
Imperial Parliament had no power to tax the people Now South Wales , or to appropriate their revenues , Due that all taxation should bo made by the colonial . Legis mturo : next , that tho rovonucs arising from tho piumc lands , of which her Majesty was trustee , could only be appro p riated t o the use of t ho c olo ny ; thirdly , that tlio oustoms and other branches of revenuo should bo subject , u > tho same control ; fourthl y , that tho action of tlio . bogM * lativo Council should not tie fettered by interference ft or * tho Parliament at home ; and , fifthly , that no colonial , bills should bo reserved for tho sanction of hor Majesty , unless such as anoctcd her crown and dignity , m tonelusion , they declared they were prepared , it , « n ™ " with their own lands and revenues , to provido for all um > expenses of tho colony , e x c l usive onl y of tlio govomoi salary . " ( Hear , hear . ) _ __ „__ ,., , , . „ ,, „ . Gladstone
Lord Naas presented tho petition ; Mr . drew attention to it . The member * of tho U ° " - mono took exception to tho phraHO " as a trustee ; - forring to tho Queen—and a discussion arose upon n * Finally , it was ordered to lio on the table . Tho Metropolitan Water Supply Bill went through committee , and tho Burial Bill won read a second tuno-At length , after u steady opposition to the a clauses from Sir , William Molesworth , the New / x « m » Government Bill was road a third time , and pnsscu . ltoMAir Catholic ritooKsaioNS . —A Boyal P" *^^ tion appeared in tty London Gavotte of Ti dily , wain s all those whom it might concern , that tho law oilidawjK Roman Calholic processions would , » lutur X V » o <» £ enforced . This gavo riiso to questions from mi . ¦> ^ who awked whothor Government intended to pw » te Proclamation in tho Dublin Gaeotte , and wj » „ $ „< . * prioete for doing what had boon connived at cv G ^ 1829 . Mr . Waipomb said , that two months ogo wjo ^ ^ vommont hoard of a procession in , . eliuia ' 1 .. fl . i « n < lly Eoman Catholic biBhonW part , and < J » ov wait a ¦ »* intimation to ttto bishop , pcriflti » g out to UW * -
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578 T H JB LEA 3 > | i , [ llMtjRPAY ,
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Leader (1850-1860), June 19, 1852, page 578, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1940/page/6/
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