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he . kept secret , the archbishop was unwilling to saake it public , unless the House of Commons desired it * It was , therefore , entirely a question for the House to decide . Mr . ( Jlaebtonhj said , there was a difference in the present * motion and one in which the House was moved for returns . In the latter case the returns were compulsory , and no option was left ; hut in a . n address of this description it was always referred to the discretion of the Crown so that ib would be open to his noble friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department to frame his communication in such a manner as to avoid , anything like interference
with a private matter . He did not consider the document was Asked for to gratify personal curiosity , for euah a document might fairly be called a matter of historical interest , appertaining as it did to a subject of suet great public interest . He thought , subject tq a due regard for private rights , the motion jnigh | properly be granted . r Mr , K . Sbymbr thought they ought first to be informed of the object for which it was required by the hen member , whether it were indeed to investi * gate , a subject of historical interest , or for some other purpose which might be attended with mischief to the country .
The House then divided , when there appeared , for the motion , 132 ; against * ; majority ; for the motion , 49 . . Laws op MoBTMAiB ( . 7 r-Mr . Hsadlam obtained leave to bring in a ~ buL , i | Seoiing tbe disposition of . property of . ill kuvls for charitable aad religious purposea . ' He proposes to leaf e the lay relating to bequests of land for such purposes exactly at it stands . But with , regard to personalty , he proposes that the will giving such estate must be executed three montis before the death , of tlie testator , and that within one month after its execution notice of the amoant ojNuiy charitable rifts and of the purposes to which they afe . applied mnst be given to the Chanty Coinmissionetfs ; wttli € htk tVTrtvntZnn that . twvttro . nio . frnrpja . fit-. utrioa nn'rl nhio /* ta
they had been arrived at ex-parte , and complained that the commissioners' report had been printed in the newspapers on the 9 th of February , although it was not presented to Parliament until the 24 th . Earl <» ranville said there was no objection to produce the instructions , but the evidence could not be given , as no short-hand writer had been admitted during too inquiry . The Government were of opinion that some such change as that recommended by the commissioners might advantageousl y be made ; and he added that it had the support of the heads of various departments . When the Government should bring then- measure forward , it would be found irce from the slightest selfish , feeling , and to have been prepared solely with th « object of improving the Civil Service . Lord Brougham doubted whether any plan was really in contemplation ; but if one was , he certainly conld . not aeree
with it . —After a brief debate , in which the Eael of Harrow ©^ the Marquis of Glanricarde , and the Duke of Argyl engaged , Lord Monteaglk replied , and the motion wa agreed to . , . Ekdowbd Qramhab-schools . —Mr . Pku ^ mtt moved for an address for the appointment of a Royal Conunission of Inquiry into the stat « , Average number of pupils , discipline , studies , and revenue of endowed schools of England and Wales ; also of the endowments for scholars , their number and revenue ; likewise of a ll bequests of librarias , and endowments for their support ; the . character , numbers ^ and condition of the books , the number . of the . librarians and their salaries , with the view of increasing the educational and other advantages to . the public in general . Lord John RossBLt , objected to the motion , as it would entail great expense and disturj ) th « proceedings of the Qhaptj Commission , which would lake cognisance of these schools . ' _ ia . . , ¦ . -. - ' The motion was generally objected to , and withdrawn .
of that kind , Ought be , eiven without restriction to ^ public Institutions , such , as the National Gallery , the British Museum ^ and establishments of that description . Subject to certain jBroyisions with respect to notice , he proposes that , all titles bad in consequence of defects of . the existing jaw shall be henceforth valid . Anotbsk CoNVBHpc Bulu—Mr . WHtTBSiDE moved , for leave to bring in a second bill , designed to secure to persons under religions vows the fr » exercise of their rights in the disposal of property . The law already recognised the possibility of nojdue influence under certain relationships , such as those between lawyer and client , guardian and ward , and sought to counteract the effect of that Jnfia ^ n ^ J > y . avoiding tbe ^^ v eyaace of property affected by those parties . This principle no -sought to extend to persons , under spiritual
guardianship . Instead , of annulling grants and conveyances made by a am i La favour of the convent in " which she -was secluded , ha proposed jimplj to shift to the parties claiming property udder such deeds , the onus of showing that they had not been obtained by aqdue influence . ' The bQl was opposed , as unnecessary , by Mr . Moorb , Mr . Bowtbb , Mr . Lucas , and other Irish members . AAoptr ing a suggestion of Mr , Lucas , Lord Faxmbbstok recommended that legislation should be postponed until the report of the committee of inquiry into the state of conventual establish ( n . < : nte had been firesented . The princi p le of the bill he { band deserving of approval , and did uot object to the introduction of the measure if it was not to be pressed , further at present . Other speeches having been made , the House ' divided . For leave to bring in the bill , 68 ; against , 40 ; majority , 28 . RTJMOTJKEB ATTEMPT OV RUSSIA . TO RB-OPEN NEGOTIATIONS . Mr . Djsraeli . —Perhaps the noble lord will allow me to put a question to him , of which I have not been able to give notice- —namely , whether the Government have received any official information of a renewed proposal on the * part of Russia for the settlement « f the misunderstanding ia the East having been submitted to her Majesty ' s Minister at Vienna ? Lord J . Russell . —No proposition has been submitted to her Majesty's Minister at Vienna . High Treason . —Mr . Whiteside moved to introduce a bill for assimilating the law and practice existing in cases of treason in Ireland with those observed and admitted in England respecting similar charges . The distinctions now to be found between the systems of the two countries -were , be contended , useless and invidious .
Lord Fa . lmbrston signified his consent to the motion , which was then agreed to and leave given . Payment op Wages . —Mr . Foksteh moved the second reading of the Payment of Wages Bill . He waa met b \ this amendment from Mr . Ckaufurd : "That before any further legislation on the sulyect of the pay-meat of wages bo sanctioned by this House , a select committee be appointed to-inquire into the operation of the laws affecting tlie relations of masters and workmen , and to rep « rt whether any and what amendment mar be requisite ia those laws . " Mr . Heywobth , Mr . Bright , and Lord Stanley supthe view
ported expressed in the amendment . Mr . Drummond , Sir Joshua Wa-lmscky , Mr . Bookku , Mr . Bouvkrik supported the bill . Sir Geokoe Gkby argued that further inquiry ia unnecessary . On a division , the bill was carried by 166 to 56 . Civil Skuvice . —Lord Montkaolb moved for a copy of the inatiuctionB given to the commissioners who have reported o « the state of the Civil Service , and of the evidence taken before them . The noble lord in a speech of considerable length entered into an elaborate discussion of the changes recommended ia the Civil S ? rviccy « ind expressed his total inability to concur with them . He contended that
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ALLEGED CORRUPTION OF IRISH MEMBERS . This investigation promises to be a long one . Already the committee has been sitting" three weeks ; , and little definite information has been obtained . ' .. Qii Eriday Mr . Lucas was again examined . As before , hej wasvery sparing of his knowledge , if he has any . He named Mr . Butt , Mr . Bright , and Mr . Keogh as persons likely to give information . Fastening on Mr . Keogh , he made against him a general charge of dishonourable conduct ; but pressed by the comniittee , and especially by Mr , Keogh Juauelf , he was-forced to admit that he . brought against Mr . Keogh . no charge of selling places ; no charge of yoking , to obtain patronage ; nor exactly , of voting to obtain place ; but ha declared that Mr . Keogh had " acted corruptly
in talcing office , " breaking hia , solemnpromises ** and had acted corEuptly / eversince . ? ' v Mr . Keogh : It is now t about fifteen months since I took office . Had not your and I , yery strong personal disagreements long before tuat period > Ia fact , did not I once describe you , in your presence , at a large public meeting at Athlone , as one / who would plunge , a dagger , in a man ' s back , but would never dare to do anything to jus prejudice openly in his presence ? ( Uonfiuion iniltit cofnhiit £ ee-rdom , ) Mr . Lucas : I do not recollect that yon-used those expressions . You charged me with -being a calumniator , u&ng the strongest language which could easily proceed ' from human lips ; and I said that whenever a coahtibtt was formed between Whigs and Tories , Mr . Keogh would accept the place of Solicitor-General for Ireland ,
the Irish members had great difficulty in voting against the Government . of Lord John RuaselPiSr cause they had received patronage . One of &ese was Mr . Francis Scully ; but Mr ? FagaT and ^ T Roche , to whom the matter was referred , on its beW shown that Mr . Scully had made mo bargain with the Government , said he was at liberty , to vote aa he pleased . Another " difficulty" subsequently occurred with reference to Mr , Reynolds , who at a late hour had refused to vote against , the Government . Some of the Irish members came to witness and asked Urn to speak to Reynolds , aad press him to srive hit -w > te
against the . Ministry . Mr . Reynolds said that jhis conscience would not allow him to do so ; and Mr . Reynolds further said ,, on Mr . Disraeli ' s motion b ^ ing mentioned , that no Irish member , could possibly rote against it , no matter what the conaequenceis might be . Mr . Fagan then pulled witness ' byr the skirt , mbd handed him a list in Mr . Beynolds ^ handwriting of the names of members who could be relied uppat * as men-who could vote for the Government ; and among them was the name of Mr . Reynolds . Witness said to Mr . Reynolds , " I think you'll have to vote agwnst the Governments That is yotirrtfiaiidwri ^ ir } iwrfll ftameaudgw 2 eit , andputanadVert ^ rnertlneVeTy Dublin DaD < r to sav that the orimnal n ^ be to * ri in
yourhandwj&ing Jd ; m ^ e ^ i ^ m ^ nolds under pressure of the threap # en $ 4 okaiwid voted , against the Ministry . . \ . : > - y : " --, _ ,,, < x-,: ^ - ^ Mr . Bindon told a story of a inu ^ naiaed ? &iteha Enright , who came to Mm and ma 4 e ^ ap ^ eatk » £ ftr a place . He told the man -he : wo ^ d -haVe n ^ tnifie to do with the transaction . Enriglit - then ^ saldl ^ lie would give witness 92 . if he would obtain : the appoint merit for Mm , and witness said it vas absurd to make ^ : mM : ^^^^ m BM ^^^ wiwbbbb wfloi uuri mauirea
« uaeu , , uy , y oa } ty , . irjre . ne did not oiter loi Jn « teVd ^ d ^^^ mmem cantireplied , " that vas what my predecessor gaveito a gentleman of the name of Reynolds , ; the ^ member for Dublin . " ( 5 emaito « . ) Witness was poflitive that-the name mentioned wasthat ^ fiMr . 'Reynolds ; Mr . Reynolds begg ^ to be-allowed to make a statement ; He was told that the evidence implicating hina was riot eufiaciently advaji <^ to r ^ riaif % } it . He then said , ^ M ^ M ^ k ^^ ga ^ iipon examining me , T sb ^ l l > e : i ^ i ^^ fj ^ j ^^ ir |(^|| ' contradict , in the most xmftuaMe ^ , terms ^ vall ^ tjtie reports that have been circulated W my preiudiioe ^ / . ¦¦ . ¦• ¦ . - ¦ - , i •¦ [ ~ t * . *
Dr . Gifiard , editor of the Standard , was examined respecting a letter printed in that newspaper , intimating that Mr . Roche , member for County Cork , had acted corruptly . Dr . Giflard said he did not know who wrote the letter ; the post mark , he thought ( Cork ) , showed it was genuine . He frequently inserted letters without knowing who wrote them . All he took care of was that the letters did not contain a libel . Mr . Napier , late Attorney-General for Ireland , said a general opinion prevailed that members of Parliament take money for places . He had no doubt such thincs did occur .
Mr . Roche was informed by the committee that no imputation rested upon him ; he might record , if he thought fit , & protest against tne accusation in the Standard . Mr . Roche : I should wish the declaration that I have mado to be put upon the minutes of the committee . Mr statement is this : — -I most poaitively and particularly contradict the accusation or insinuation which haa been made in tliat anonymous letter ; and I declare most positively and most solemnly that it is unfounded . I say , moreover , that it is a cowardly aad base calumny .
Mr . Thomas Arkins , sword-bearer to the Dublin corporation , Baid he had collected 300 / . for Mr . Reynolds , late M . P . for Dublin , from the officers of the Dublin corporation who had obtained compensation when the Corporation Reform Bill abolished their offices . Mr . Reynolds accepted the money ; but tlie witness believed it was paid as a compensation for the loss of Mr . Reynolds ' s eeat . The story of the paid guardianship seems to be incorrect . The young man , Fair , wanted a place , and , it is stated , declared liis willingness to pay for it . He had interviews with Mr . O'Hara and Mr . Graham , both of whom were examined , but nothing was said , at the brief interview with Mr . Graham , about money . Dr . Gray nao . de these statements : he affirmed that ia 1851 , whcuMr . Disraeli made a motion , some of
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. i >> ' 4 > ii ,. <> ii . 4 V . > i-jiM . - '¦ , ' ¦ ¦ '¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ¦' . , ° ' . ' .. '¦¦ :. '¦ . - . MCi ~ , / -. \ - ; Tip \ w 4 # ; fEfc ^ , . ^ ;^ - > . England has sent off the first division of the Baltic fleet , under Admiral Sir Charles Napien " lt set * iut from Spithead on Saturday , Queen Victoria flrit bidding farewell to her admirals and' captain * , and leading her war-ships to sea . ' ; A ( y H The w ^ k | ner wa s ; very flije , and the wind as if favouring ^ the enterprise , blew fteadily I ^ m the west . The first scene of the day-took place in the Guildhall of Portsmouth , where the corporate vautho > rities presented an address to Sir Charles papier , trusting that his ships would produce such < an im > pression 6 a the mind of theEmpeTprr ^^ tl ^ e ^ coinin on enemy of Europe "—as to make him abandon his aggression : . . .
" Great indeed is the responsibility which rest * en you , and great are the expectations and anxieties with which the British people will be filled while you are engaged ; iu the difficult and perhaps perilous dutie » to which yoor Queen and country call you . In those duties may the God ; of battles aid and prosper jqu ; and may the combined fore * under your control , nghtiqg in cordial union in a righteous cause , succeed in materuiUy assisting to , bring the warfare to a speedy and decisive issue 1 , , , " You , and the equally brave and gallant men who will rally round you , wilt have the earnest aspirations notuonly of the inhabitants of this borough , but of the , wbola people of the . United Kingdom . We wish you ' God speed 1 ' and pray that the war which has been thus needlessly forced upon Europe may eventually result In a still more lasting peacep check the barbarous policy of aggression , and promote the civilisation of the world . "
When the cheering had subsided , Sir Charles replied in these terms : " Mr . Mayor and Gentlemen—Whea I tell you that I havo had only twenty-four hours to get ready to go afloat , you will not lo surprised if I decline to make a long speech , ; however , I bee to thank you for this very kind and handsome address . I believe it isjnpt usual when a man goes abroad to have addresses of thiflfind presented to him , but all I can say is this—that I will do the bent I can to prevent the British flag from being tarnished . I know a great deal is expected from the fleet , but , gentlemen , you must not expect to meet
too much . ( Cheere . ) We . aro going no oommon enemy ; we « re going to meet an oncrny well prepared . I am sure tiveiy officer nnd man in the fleet will do his dnty gloriously ; but , at the same time , I warn you again that you must not expect too much . { Cheers . ' ) The fleet is a new one ; the sy » t « m of warfare is new ; great consideration is required to ascertain how it is best to manuge a fleet urged by steam . The system of warfare Lj entirely different now to what it waa formerly ; but we will do our nest , and I am sure 1 shall remember to tho last day of my life the kindness of the people of Portsmouth . " ( Loudcheers . } With great difficulty , Sir Chartes made hie way to the pier , hung with the flags of England , France , the
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Mabch 18 , 1854 . ] THE LEADER . ^^ *¦ ~" ¦ . . : « 5 Bf- : ¦¦
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Leader (1850-1860), March 18, 1854, page 245, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2030/page/5/
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