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    looked on the suggestionsmade at the Conferences as extremely injudicious . What was the policy tfthe Ministry ? It was obscure and mysterious with respect to theQuestion whether or not we are to take . steps for Dotting an end to the foreign occupation <* Italy . If it as it has been the fate of the noble lord to-night , to bring before the consideration of Parliament the question

    of utterferencrin Italy . IJbare in my mind a perfect recollection of the events which took place in 1847 and 1 8 48 and a l thoug h the noble lord may not condescend to profit by the experience of that adventure , I confess myself that the consequences were so sad , and have been so opposed in my opinion to the progress of Italy and to the amelioration of the condition of Italian society , that I tremble lest he should embark in a like enterprise again , and lest we should reap from that condudt ihe same bitter and desolating fruits . " If we are to interfere for the sake of the oppressed of Naples and Rome , why not for those of Austria and Russia ? Is there to be a difference simply because , in the one case , we

    should only be encountered by weakness , and in the other by strength ? Again , if we rouse the passions of the Italian people , we shall also rouse the secret societies , which aim , not at ameliorating governments , b ut a t c h ang ing society . We know what they did in 1848 . An English Minister had most unwisely boasted that , by holding out his hand , he could raise a revolution in Italy to-morrow . There is no doubt he could ; but what would be the consequences ? The Pope would very soon be forced to fly ( Mr . Spooner might perhaps say , " So much the better" ); the French Emperor , in conjunction with Austria , would pour forth his legions in order to restore the head of the Romish Church ; we should have to withdraw our fleet ; our admonitions would be thrown in the mud ( as they deserve ); and the thraldom of Italy would be a thousand times more severe . But the secret

    societiesthough covering Italy with a perfect network—do not merely exist in that peninsula ; they are even more numerous , more active , and in a higher state of organization , in France . A great calamity has recently fallen on France , in the shape of inundations ; and , if we follow out this scheme of rousing the Italians , not all the genius for government of the French Emperor , not all the admirable measures he has taken to mitigate the calamity , nor even the strength of his victorious army , will prevent the probability , and perhaps the fact , of a revolution in his territories also . Let them take example b y wh a t h appened to t h at ast u te m onarc h , L ouis Philippe . However , he ( Mr . Disraeli ) found encouragement in the language of the First Minister , for it appe ar ed to be t h e ca lm , well-considered , and solid

    determination of the Government to do nothing ( hear , hear , and a l aug h ); and he believed such was the intention a l so of t h e F re n c h E mperor . H e did not agree w it h t h e denunciations of Austrian rule in Lombardy : that province is lightl y ta x ed , whi l e it is recei v ing v ast materia l impro v ements from t h e I mpe r ia l fi nances ; and , as to the Bang of Naples and the smaller sovereigns , they are teased with constant conspiracies , till , from a f ee l ing of panic , rat h er t h an from n atura l crue l ty or a r b itrary disposition , they are driven to excesses whi c h a ll m ust dep lore . No man can -wish to fill dungeons with his own subjects . With regard to Sardinia , he thought that an attack upon it b y any Power whatever most demand the serious consideration of the Engl ish Government ; but he strongly advised the House to rep u diate the course recommended b y Lord John Russell .

    Mr . Bowteb mentioned that he had heard , on good authority , that the occupation of the Roman State * by foreign troops would soon cease . He deprecated the course taken by Lord John Russell . — Mr . Monckton Milnes was glad , after the speech he had heard from Mr . Disraeli , that that hon . gentleman was not a member of the Government . —Mr . Wihtisside held that Lord John Russell was justified in asking the question he had put . The policy of Ministers ¦ was shuffling and miserable , and amounted to this —that they meant to do nothing . — Mr . John Pjuillihohb spoke in favour of Italian nationality and indopendence . — Sir John Walsh looked upon the course pursued by Lord John Russell as extremely rash . He soomed to assume that France is prepared to be our tool ; but the Emperor Napoleon is the last man likely to be the

    cafcspaw of Liberalism either in that House or elsewhere . It would be madness and folly to plungo into a course of interference , reckoning upon the support of the Emperor Napoleon , which would be entirely antagonistic to his principles and interests . Ho ( Sir John Walsh ) deBlred to see the state of Italy ameliorated ; but ho could not forget that the presence of Red Republicanism renders caution very necessary . Lord John Rubbkix , in reply to Mr . Disraeli , said that his observations applied solely to tho foreign occupation of Italy . When was that to terminate ? Was thero to be a ninety-nine yearo'lease ? and , i f so , would not that constitute permanent poweaiiion ? Mr . Diaraeli had spoken of secret societies . He said th * whole continent was uadermined by those societies . « But , " aaid Lord John , "I am * bot sure that a Government extremely despotic And supported by foreign troopa la the Government moat

    likely- to put down secret societies . { Hear , hear . ") It is in that rank soil that these weeds are most likely to grow . ( Cheers . ) These things act upon one another . There are secret societies , therefore there is foreign occupation ; there is foreign occupation , therefore there are secret societies . " The motion was negatived without a division .

    PARTNERSHIP AMENDMENT ( No . 2 ) BELL . This bill was read a third time . On the question that it pass , a discussion of considerable length arose upon a proviso in the 3 rd clause , proposed by Mr . John Phtllimorb and opposed by Mr . Lowe , requiring the lender to advertize the loan in the Gazette , with the name of the borrower , the portion of the profits to be received , and the nature of the business . —Upon a division , the proviso was carried ( in opposition to the Government ) by 108 to 102 . —Mr . Lowe then stated that , after th is d ec i s i on , it was not the intention of the Government to proceed further with the bill , which was accordingly withdrawn .

    The Episcopal and Capitular Estates Contlnuancb Bill , the Poor Law Amendment ( Scotland ) Bill , the Indemnity Bill , the Nuisances' Removal , &c . ( Scotland , No . 2 ) Bill , and the Formation of Parishes Bill , were respectively read a third time , and passed . MR . JAMES SADLEIR . In the early part of the evening , before the discussion on the affairs of Italy , Mr . Roebuck intimated that , in the event of Mr . James Sadleir not surrendering before Monday next , he should move his expulsion from the House . —Some discussion then ensued between the Attorney-General for Ireland and Mr . Napier with respect to the matter at issue between them ; and the former said that on the following day he should make a statement .

    IRISH MILITIA AND OFFICERS IN THE ABBEY . In answer to a question from Lord Claud Hamtt .-ton , Mr . Frederick Peel said that , as t h e I ris h mi l it i a was to be kept embodied longer than that of England and Scotland , and as some of the men desired to return home prior to the period fixed for its disembodiment , permission was given to them to leave , with a provision that they should receive the pay and bounty to which , up to that time , they were entitled . As the militia was about to be disembodied , however , instr u ct i ons h ad b ee n given that men who were permitted to go home should b e set tl ed wit h a t once , and should receive all to which they were entitled in respect of gratuity and bounty .

    Replying to Sir James Graham , who made some inquiries respecting the reduction , of officers of inferior grades in the army ( more especially with regard to those distinguis h ed at S and h urst ) , Mr . Frederick Pbel said t h at t h e on l y sound princi ple on which this reduction cou l d be carr i ed out w as to reduce t h os e office r s w h o are the juniors in each grade . He agreed with his right hon . friend that those who had distinguished themselves at Sandhurst had as strong a claim to the consideration of the Government as any others ; but he could not say t h at any of them had a c l aim to be k ept in ful l pay i n preference to those who are senior to them in the service .

    termed a " regulated bishopric . " He held the revenues of his see as his predecessors had held them . The Bishop of Durham had come to his see subject to the arrangements which had been made by the Ecclesiastical Commissioners , by which the income of the see was not fixed at a particular sum , but a revenue was given him , which , it was expected , would produce a sufficient income for the Bishop , of the probable amount of 8000 / . a year . But it had been found that the revenue had exceeded that amount , and the Bishop of Durham had set apart a large sum , which was called the Maltby fund , consisting of the surplus revenue , and he . ( the Lord Chancellor ) had authority for saying that the total

    income received by the Bishop amounted to 13 , 500 / . a year . The Bishop of London was in the recei pt of t h e whole revenues of his see , and those revenues might be s tated a t 18 , 000 ? . a year . The regulated income of his successor would be 10 , 000 / . a year . It was proposed that the pension of the Bishop of London should be 6000 / . a year . He had it not from his own mouth , but he knew it to be true that the right reverend prelate had not saved any money , except that he had insured his life largely , and it would require a large part of the pension to keep up the insurances . A handsome retiring pension would also be provided for the Bishop of Durham .

    Lord Redesdale objected to the measure , which he thought had been hastily in trod u ced , and for which there was no precedent . The wiser course would have been to introduce a general measure , altering the regulations of the act of Elizabeth . It was his painful duty , a l so , to object to the large amount of the retiring pensions . He therefore moved that the bill be read a second time that day three months . —The Earl of Cmchestee sup p orted t h e bi ll . —The Duke of Cleveland was surprised that some such measure had not been intro d uc ed b efore , and especially in the case of the late Bishop of Bath and Wells . In the midst of some laughter , h is G race defende d t h e B is h op of L ondon against the accusation of not having paid over the

    whole of the surplus income of his see to the ecclesiastical commissioners , which had been made against him by the public press , and in the other House by " a person named Horsman . "—The Bishop of Exeter was un d e r stood to express h is a p pro v l of m a ki ng provision for t h e retir e ment of B is h ops , wh o from a g e or infirmity are incapacitated for their duties , but contended that the object s h ou l d b e acc o mp l ished b y a ge n era l measure , secur in g t h e ri ghts of the church , and after consultation with the members of the episcopal bench . The Church , h owe v er , h ad a l read y pro v ided a re m ed y , in case of age o r incapacit y , b y appointing coadjutor Bish ops . —The Earl of Harrowby spoke iu favour of the bill , which was opposed by the Earl of Derby , who conceived there

    should have been a general measure , and who objected to the b argainin g for a successor . Such an uct , if done i n t he case of a rector , wou l d be s im ony ; and t h e princi ple was the same in the case of a Bishop . —The Archbishop of Canterbury b rie fly intimated his intention to vote for the second reading . —The Duke of Newcastlk objected to the principle of the measure . It was notorious that these were not the only two dioceses in the kingdom iu which the holders are unequal to the discharge of their duties . He alluded especially to two cases in which the Bishops withheld their resignation

    THE DRA 1 NACE OF THE METROPOLIS . la answer to Mr . Butler , S ir Benjamin Hall s aid t h at , a f ter commun i cation wi t h t h e M etrop ol itan B oa r d of W orks , e x per i m e n ts wi th re s pect to t h e drainage of t h e me tr opolis h ad been ma d e by C aptain B i r stal , in consequence of which he had informed the chairman of t h at B oard that the p lans which a deputation from it had previously submitted to him were at variance with t h e act of l ast session , inasmuch as they contempl ated t h o disc h arge of t h e se w a g e at a po i nt w ithi n o r near t h e me tro p o l is ; a n d t h at t h erefore t h e G over n m en t cou l d no t sanctio n t h em . A t t h o sa m e time , h e h ad con v eyed to the Metropolitan Board of Works that , if they presented any other plans to the Government which were in conformity with the act of last session , they should receive immediate consideration .

    si m p ly because no allowance would bo made on their retirement . —L&rd Dknman hoped that this measure would be allowed to drop ; for ho feared , judg ing from -what had a l read y taken place , that the future discussions elsewhere would be calculated to cause great pain to the ri ght rev . prelates most nearly concerned . —The liisliop of Oxfokd opposed the bill for reasons ainiilar to those advanced b y the Duke of Newcastle and the Earl of D erb y . He hoped that time would be taken for consideratio n , and that any legislation on the subject would be postponed to next session .

    On a division , tho second rending was affirmed by -17 against 35 . The Metropolis Locai- Management AgtAmkndment Bill , nnd some other measures , paused through committee . COAST OUARD KKRVICIC BILL . At the morning sitting of tho Housh of Commons , on t h o motion of S ir Charles Wood , the Coa . st Guard Service Bill was read a second time . Uy this measure , the Const Guard will be placed under the control of the Admiralty , nnd its numbers will be increased to 10 , 000 men . This will givo a reserve of from 6000 to 7000 s k i ll ed seamen , ready for any emergency . Tho force thus created , combined with tho seamen in training shi ps , the Naval Const Volunteers , and the l ' oimioiior . H ,

    Tuesday , July 16 . THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF AND THE SECRETARY FOK "WAR . In the House of Lords , Lord Panmure , in rep ly to the Duke of Somerset , stated that no new limitations had been made to the power exercised by tho Commanulor-in-Chief on tho appointment of tho Duke of C ambr i d ge to that office . According to tho present state of things , there is virtual responsibility to tho Secretary for War for all tho official acts of the Commandor-in-Chief .

    BISHOPS OK LONDON AND DURHAM RETIREMENT HILL . The Lord Chancellor , in moving the second reading of this bill , explained that tho Bishops of Durham and L ondo n , from grout ago in tho one case , and infi rmity in the other , wish to retire from their offices , but that , as thero is great doubt as to their power to do ho ( no such act having boon performed since the Reformation ) , it had been found necessary to introduce this enabling measure-. Both prelates had porfonped their duties in tho most exempl ary m anne r , and , wit h res p ect to tho Bishop of London , though he had commanded a very largo income , and presided over an oxtoiitiivo dioc o so , no one would bo found to deny that those revenues and tho whole of his time hud boon dovotod to tho spiritual and temporal welfare of those over whom luj was placed . The Bishop of London did not hold whnt ia

    will , Sir Charles expected , prevent a recurrence of tin : "iconvenienco which wan felt at tho beginning of the late war . Sir Charles guve several interesting pnrticulars of tho improvements recently efl ' uctcd in tho French navy , and observed that tlm French , at the prudent moment , cou l d produce u far larger body of diHciplinud seamen than wo could . —Sir Jam km Graham , . Sir F . KANOIB Uaiuno , and other members , expressed thoir approval of tho p lan . — In answer to a qiioHtion by Mr . GnoaAN , tho Chan < : i < : i , i , or of this Kx <; iik < jiki : said that thero is no intention to break up tlni coast . guard—tho design being simply to transfer it from tho Board of Customs to tho Hoard of Admiralty-. Tho v otes for tho coast gu a rd , up to tho 1 st of Afiril next , will be transferred to tho control of tho Admiralty ; but

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    THE LEADER . [ No . 330 , Saturday , 676 —— —

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  • Leader (1850-1860), July 19, 1856, page 676, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2150/page/4/