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bers were made the subject of discussion ; some particular ^ p £ which remain to this day in the hand-writing of Mr . Winte / .. He states , that Mr . John Harry , minister of Blaenagwent , publicly proposed the following question , ' < What is to be done and free wil
10 those who believe ^ general redemptioji l , and that man can be saved without the grace of God ? " No answer being given , he desired those who entertained these sentiments , immediately to own them , doubtless in order to bring on an open discussion . Mr . Winter rose and said , " No doubt can be entertained , that I , and a few who have embraced , similar sentiments , are the people adverted to on this occasion ; alrLd therefore , I feel myself bound to assert the doctrines , —that Christ died for all ,
and that man ' s will is free to do good or evil , without any irre ? sistible control . But I do not expect to be saved without the grace of God , as salvation and all other blessings are the effects of his favour . " Having modestly given his reasons for these opinions , and referred to John iii . 16 . 1 John ii . 2 . Heb . ii . 99
&c . in support of them ; he begged to be informed , whether or not it was Judas Iscariot ' s duty to believe in Christ for salvation ? Being answered in the affirmative , Mr « W . observed , € i That he could not see that it was the duty of any but those for whom Christ died , to believe in him , for salvation . If then Christ died for Judas , whv not for all ?"
The ministers feeling , as it should seem unable to resist this conclusion , were about to draw him off from the subject by foreign questions , when Mr . Jacob Isaac , a farmer and one of the members , requested that the subject might be fully discussed , before any other was introduced . Mr . Thomas , in his
History of the Baptists in Wales ( printed at Carmarthen , 177 # , ) p . 113 , says , " I have not heard that Mr . W * who was a young man of a mild temper , more disposed to hear than to speak , said much at this meeting , though Mr . Abel Francis and some of the Hengod members , pleaded much in favour of general
redemption . " However , Mr . W . and the people who adhered to him were commanded to leave the house , and the meeting was soon closed in confusion , as appears from a manuscript left by him to his successors in the church of Craigfargod . After this , a paper containing articles of faith was laid before him , and he thought proper to subscribe , partly perhaps because they were moderate , and partly because he wished not to make a division in the church- His adherents did the same , except the ftbove-tnentioned Mr . Isaac , who protested against subscribing any thing but the Bible , and who for that reason was no longer admitted to communion at Hengod , but was cordially received by the Calvinistic Pa ^ dobaptist congregation
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114 Rev . Charles JVinter .
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Monthly Repository (1806-1838) and Unitarian Chronicle (1832-1833), March 2, 1806, page 114, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/mruc/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1722/page/2/
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