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in Antiquitie as you are canned but know , T meane before the Nieene eolineell tfc after y , your selfe doth not approve y episcopal discipline of y churches , and I for my part place y * epocha of y 1260 apocalyptique yeares there * reckoning by semitimes
to Luther , by y 42 moneths to Calvin , and by 1260 days , i . e . yeares , to Sochms , viz . an . 1586 . I will not ehallendge you to dispute , else I could willingly have sent you a little writeing wherein by many arguments both negatively and positively I doe prove th&t when y * Holy Spirit is taken personall y ( 1 say when personally , ) it ifc ^ inot taken for a person numerically
consubstantial and absolutely equal to y Ffatlier and y Sonne , but anti-Stoichially to the 'sense in which the unholy spirit is taken . It m&y be somewhat to my purpose what yourtfelfe hath proposd on those words ,
eopcept you be converted , —whither ther £ be not ^ sort of spirits above ye ordinary angels ? You know they have all grounded y « third hypdstasis upon procession , and yet there is but one scripture which mentions it , and Beza expounds y * of y * temporal mission of y ° Holy Spim . Now sublato
fundamento , tottitur relatid ; for my part I doe not question , but y * I can prove , y * y * Angel who would not suffter John to worship him was J ^ Holy Spirit . But I will dispute ' no farther of this now . Many men have said with Curcellaeus , in prazfat : to Episcopius , y * Athanasius himselfe did not
hold a numericall consubstantialitie , but so it is urged now upon ns from ye schoolemen . You cannot btit have observed in your readeing of y ffathers , who were bred up in schooles of false philosophic & metorique , & inclined to apostacy , what slight proofes would serve their turtles , for
what they had a mind to , and upon \ Vhat texts they at first chiefly grounded their opinion : as that , tkou art my Sonne , this duv have I begotten thee , quoted in thfe New Test-three tinies manifestly of y * resurrecfiba tod exaltktton of Christ , as afcy one may Easily percieve that will examine the
places , Act * xiii . ; Heb i . & y ., und not of an esscntiall generation before the world beganne . So here also , qubiatQ fundamento , tollitttr relatw ? but they had a mind to make Christ better than 4 tc was and tamrA y * inyssi
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tterie of godlinesse , a ^ Tyndall g . Ewr Anti-X ^ will be ty best Xfi «* . O say y ^ Papists ; you make nothing of ye Sacrament of y * Aultar , nothing of holy Church , nothing rf 3 ^ blessed Virgin , nothing . of Christ : viz . to be God ' s Christ is nothing . Would we could be contented with God ' s
ordinances jus he ^ appointed y # asd wth God ' e Christ as an exalted Saviour , according to the whole current of y Scripture , w , whatsoever one or two texts ( it maybe not well translated or not from y best copies ) may seeme to require , y whole current of ye Bible (( upon which y people who are ble upon which y people who are
no schollars must ground their fayth ) doth distinguish ye Ffather from the Sonne , as God from X \ , aa * ^ ° d from y Lord ( grace be to you from God y *> Ffuther and our Lord Jesus Xt , J according to Peter * s Sermons in ye Acts , by which he laid y ministerial foundation of y Christian Church , both as to Jews and < 3 entiles ; & of
whom therefore X * . said , Thou art Peter , &c . Neither Peter nor Paul talke of' nunc aet ^ rnitatis , quite contrary to y text , hodie ( this day ) ego te genui : i . e . ego te regent constitui , sayth Grotius upon y psalme , so manifestly typical and prophetical of
Christ ' s exaltation to hi » spiritual kingdom as head of ye new creation , all angels , authorities and powers being made subject unto him , 1 Pet . iii . ult . Peter said nothing of verbum mentis * You know how the antients
expounded cormeumeructavit verbum bonum , proceeding from ¦ y * we now call Anianisme , to HoniooussiaFmsme , and from thence to numerical consubstantialitie : nor St John neither , in y t schola 8 tical sense , who calleth
X * . y word or speech , because he revealed y will of y Ffather , and God spake to us by his Sonne , as men doe to one another by their words . What beginneing is so suteable to an Evangelist as y beginneing of y Grospel , and so he expounds nhnselfe in hi& be
epistles . If th ^ re a ' toew creation ( or constitution of things utider Xfc . as y « head , ) as all dde nbto confe ^ se , \ vhy should not an Evfrn ^ elist speak e of y ? I doe ttctt y € ato 0 mDer y * y Socimans doe n $ e y ffollowing argument , w £ he to me « is " a demonetraticm , viz .
from y anaitipl ^ sis ^ > vhen a sentence beghmes ^ ith-: y ^ word w ended y former . It is marnxfest y y * Evangc-
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6 B An Original Lettev 4 f Remonstrance to Richard Baxter > on ^ his
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Monthly Repository (1806-1838) and Unitarian Chronicle (1832-1833), Feb. 2, 1823, page 68, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/mruc/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1781/page/4/
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