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April 12 . The Chancellor of the Exchequer moved , that Mr . Brogden bring up the Report of the Church Building Acts . Mr . Hume resisted the motion . The reasons offered on a former night in favour of voting £ 500 , 000 were so little satis factory , that he should submit an
Amendment , if possible , to defeat the object in view . He had already stated , why he thought it impolitic that the proposition should be carried , and he would only now repeat one or two of the prominent grounds on which he had rested . First , it was known on the authority of Ministers themselves , that the money would not be wanted at all for three
years , and that the interest of it was to be applied to the support of the Clerical Establishment of the West Indies . There was no instance within the last century , where any sum had been granted by the
House that was not to be appropriated to the service of the year . At least , if the mooey had not been used in the year , it had been required for that purpose . His first objection , therefore , was , that the Resolution of the Committee was
contrary to the usage of Parliament . His second ground of opposition , was , that the money was not necessary , and that it was only granted to increase the influence of Ministers and the patronage of the Church . He was persuaded that Dissenters were multiplying all over the kingdom , and he was equally persuaded
that this measure would not stop their progress . The Dissenting ministers were in the habit of practising what they preached , and added to the numbers of their congregation by the zeal , assiduity , and ability with which they discharged the duties of their profession * He would
consent to vote any money to be spent upon those who were animated by no such zeal , used no such assiduity , and displayed no such ability . In the third place , he was satisfied that the £ 500 , 000 might be devoted to much better purposes , and therefore moved that the lleport be brought up on this day six months .
The question having been put on the Amendment , Mr . Warre wished to be allowed to say a few words in explanation of the vote he intended to give against it . When the Chancellor of the Exchequer first proposed the grant , he had entertained
some doubt as to its propriety ; but upon recons ideration , upon examining what had been accomplished by the sum already applied to the building of Churches , aud upon reflecting on the arguments used in savour of the motion , he had arrived at the conclusion that the Resolution ought l <> he agreed to . His Honourable Friend
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( Mr . Httine ) had shewn . some needless asperity against the members of the Church : he ( Mr . Warre ] did not suppose that his expressions were to be taken in their full force ; but when he said that the numbers of those who frequented the Church were decreasing , might it not arise from the acknowledged fact , that
there were not sufficient places of worship , according to the establishment of the country ? fn many populous places , if a new Church were built , when the duty was well done , it would be well attended . He hoped he did not think that the value of a Church depended upon the brick and mortar of which it was
framed : unless the pulpit were well filled the structure would be of but little use . Upon this point he was anxious , if possible , that some plan should be devised for securing an efficient minister . When Lord Bexley brought in his Bill six years ago , he attempted a plan by which
the choice of the incumbent was , in some cases , to depend upon the vote of a certain number of the parishioners ; but he was vehemently attacked by the then two Members for Oxford , Lord Stoweli and the Right Honourable Secretary opposite ( Mr . Peel ) , and they completely beat him from his favourite clause . He
( Mr . Wane ) admitted that the best minister was not always to be secured by the vote of the parishioners ; but , looking at the returns upon the table , it was obvious that it was most desirable that men only of zeal and ability should be appointed to new Churches . He admitted , likewise , with the Honourable
Member for Westminster , ( Mr , Hobhouse , ) that if Churches were to be provided for all who required them , twenty millions would hardly be enough ; but this was no sufficient reason against doing all that the House had it in its power at present to perform . Nothing he ( Mr . Warre ) had ever said , either in or out of the House , could render him liable to the
imputation of not being- willing to extend , not merely toleration , but all kinds of indulgence to Dissenters of every denomination ; but he could not be understood to mean hostility to them , when he said that he reverenced the Church , in the tenets of which he had been bred .
Dissenters might raise places of worship , according to their means ; but the question was whether , as there was a deficiency of accommodation in the Churches of the Establishment , it was not proper to supply that deficiency , especially after
an experiment of the same kind had already been successfully made ? Differing , therefore , from those with whom he usually acted , he thought he could not consent to give a silent vote on this subject .
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Intelligence . —Parliamentary : New Churches Bill * 505
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vol . xix . 3 t
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Monthly Repository (1806-1838) and Unitarian Chronicle (1832-1833), Aug. 2, 1824, page 505, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/mruc/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2527/page/57/
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