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    except me ; ' but I am contented with the suffrage and testimony of you alone , and , having taken your vote , I have nothing to say to the others . So much for this . Let us now consider the other question , Whether to commit injustice , and be punished , is , as you thought , the greatest of evils , or , as I thought , a less evil than impunity . To commit injustice and be punished , is the same thing as to be punjahejj justly , is it not ?' P . ' It is . ' S > . * Can it be denied , that whatever is just is noble , in so

    far as it is just ? Consider and say / P . * Jt seems to me that it is so / S . * And consider this likewise : if any thing acts % is It not necessary that there should be something which is acted upon ?* P . * Certainly . ' 8 . * And is not the one acted vpon in the same manner in which the other acts ? For example , if you strike , there must be something which is struck ?* P . * Yes . ' S . 'And if you strike hard , the thing which is struck is struck hard . ' P . * Certainly . ' S . ' Then that which is acted upon , is a fleeted in the same manner in which the thing which acts affects . Whatever the agent acts , the patient suffers the same / P . I admit it . S . * Novv , whether is to suffer punishment , a mode of acting , or of being acted upon ? P . € Of being acted upon . ' S . * Of being acted upon , then , by some agent V P . 4 Certainly , by the punisher . ' S . ' But he who punishes rightly , punishes justly / P . 'Yes . ' S . ' Then he acts justly . ' P . ' Certainly . ' S . Then he who is punished , is punished justly . But what is just , we have agreed is noble . ' P . 'We have . ' -S . v Then the agent who punishes does what is noble , and the patient who is punished suffers what is noble . ' P . 'Yes / ' But , if he suffers what is noble , he suffers what is good , for noble must mean cither pleasant or useful . ' P . * Of necessity / S . * Then he who surfers punishment , suffers what is good / P . 'So it seerns / 8 . ' Then he is benefited / P . ' Yes . ' S . c In what way ? I suppose by becoming in a better state of mind , if he is punished justly / P . * It is probable / S . * Then he who suffers punishment gets rid of the vice of the mind- ' P . * Yes . ' S . ' Does he not then get rid of the greatest of all evils ? Let us look at it thus : —Is there any possible vice or badness in our pecuniary condition , except poverty V P . * None / S . In our bodily condition is there any possible defect , except weakness , and disease , and deformity , and so forth ? ' P . ' JNone / S . 1 1 « there not also a vicious state of the mind V P . * There is . ' S . * And does not this consist of injustice , and ignorance , and cowardice , and so forth ? ' P . l Yea . ' S . 'Then you have enumerated the tliree characteristic vices of the estate , the body and the mind ; and these

    are , poverty , disease , and injustice V P . Yea . ' S . 4 And which of these vices is the most ignoble ? Is it not injustice , and , generally speaking , the vice of the mind V P . ' By far . ' S . And if it is the most ignoble , it is the worst ? ' P . 4 How so ? ' S . The most ignoble is either the most painful , the most detrimental , or both ; as results from our previous admissions . ' P . ' Certainly . ' S . But injustice , and , generally , the vice of the mind , have been granted by us to be the most ignoble of nil kinds of vice V P . 4 Yes . S . * Then it must he either the most painful , or the most pernicious , or both . ' P . * It must . S . Now , is injustice , or intemperance , or cowardice , or ig norance more excruciating than poverty or sickness ? ' P . 'I apprehend not . S . * Then the vice of the mind must surpass the vices of the body and of the estate , to an extraordinary degree in mischievousness , since it

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  • Monthly Repository (1806-1838) and Unitarian Chronicle (1832-1833), Oct. 2, 1834, page 708, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/mruc/issues/vm2-ncseproduct2638/page/32/