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      ETcisracter and His p «* uro- me pwi vLr iedsce , 1 believe , that he had ewa been unrai- ^ d for libel , a misfortune -which has occurred to i * £ ? L common with m ^ ny persons of hi g h con- i Nation aad importance cabinet ministers ,: J « nber * of Parliament , and peers of the realm , . Mothers hare had the misfortnne to be imprisoned ft * libel—but with a full knowledge of that circurai State , and of Mr . Frost ' s character a-. d conduct , Se Secreta rr of State for the Home Department Commended him for appointment by the then King tT ftne of the magistrates for the town of Newport . Tb that situation ' he was active , zealous , impartial , - « ad i ndependent , aad he was finally removed from rt £ t station under circumstances to which I do not ! nesa further to avert than this , because he ex-Wbited sn uccoapro ™ ^ ^ independent spiri t , because he used language which 1 do not mean to n ^ tr ymT fin I mean to disparage in the slightest

      bline these troops—if they may so be called—with a "riew to a hostile movement , consented to join them for the purpose of preventing anything of the kind . I am not here to defend that act . Mr . Frost may learn a lesson ; that *• they that sow the wind will reap the wirlwind , " a piece of advice which ought not to be thi-p ^ n away on many persons in hither station than Mr . F . I admit that his joining the multitude , even for the prevention cf mischief was ajjrave and serious offence . All I say is , thai it was not treason ; for it had no character or purpose belo- > ghi £ to treason connected with it . Mr . Frost was with them openly , and from his expressionhis expression to Bruff and Waikins— " 1 hate your politics ; but my object is to do harm to no man , and yoamay go , '' shows that he was not conscious of being engaged in any enterprise which required concealment from those from whom he entirely differed ini that

      ^ ajree ' the individual to whom it was addressed—he J » s removal because he was desirous to carry his ¦ rww * farther than the Reform Bill sanctioned , and Mulcted himself in a maanax which I admit made h japossiblfi for a Secretary of State to continue ^ B in tie office . But during every part of the « stles which terminated in she Reform Act—if , a&ed , they did terminate then—during every part of £ jjT > eTiod ' hi ^ pablic * ndprivate life wer e remarkjbk&r the . preservation of human life—for a dis-- ( Stion to keep the peace , and to protect those with 5 am he politically differed from injury , of which a ¦ |

      in p-ot politics , n appears -Mr . t rost was , ' i on Friday , the 1 st November , at the Coach am \ ' ¦ Horses . ' My learnedfriend says that was the peru ^ 1 when this wa 3 fixed . 1 don ' t know how tr A-k ! may be , but the Mayor said that he had made pre paration 8 on the Thursday . But it appears , aud . q j doubt there was an arrangement mad ; -, that " one ! party should proceed from Blackwood , asecond from j Nantyglo , and a third from Poutypool ; the jecond ! being led by Zephauiah Williams , aud the il && ^\ ! Jones . At midnight Mr . Frost is stated to h . ' A-e been ! seen at the "Welsn Oak , and that he was tr ^ en awa v tul hour ot the

      agn » l instance is given in the evidence , in his jra--gtintly refc * saag Bruff and his companion Watkins , -wSen they wfc » detained on the ni « ht of Sunday , ibe 3 rd of November . I trust I am not irregular , I believe I could show that 1 am uot , in stating that ^ onsowdOTB , in one of those fierce contentions vhieh haspeaed aboarrire period of vW Reform BS 1 , Mr . Sost , on account of his known character and influence , was sent for to protect the lives of the Dcke of Beaufort and Lord Granville Somerset , viom a mob were pressing upon , aud were about to tore into the river . He instantly went to their i » cne , and preserved them from insult , and probably from much more mischief ; and 1 believe he d £ dined any particular expression of

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      BS&t , observing that he differed from them in political opinions , and had done nothing for them which Is should not have done for his fellow subject , or for jut feE < JW . creature in existence . Gentlemen , Mr . J > " ost became a Chartist , and in common with ediers , adopted the opinions which are supposed to belong to that class of man . I hardly know what -is meant by * Chartist . "' Some of the witnesses h&ve spoken of " five articles ; " but , from ; he inti-Bunons which we find in the newspapers , it is clear that the Charcists carry their views beyond the Reform Act established by Lord Grey " s government . The five articles spoken of are— " Universal SoiL-at-e . Tore by Ballot , Annual Pariaments , No Property QuaiiScaiioiv' , according to some statements fc

      * oe :: er dismoution of property . ' W ith respect to the first four , gentlemen , I do not agree with the i Qs&rtists : but upon these subjects their opinion * are entsnained by many members of Parliament of undoubted respectability and integrity , and of considerable teieni , and—if it be true what I iave heard oa the subject—the names of many are attached to a document , the avowed object of which is to frame what is called the CSiarter of the people , by expounding their principles on these pomtk . Gentlemen , I have abstained from mentioning any name unconnected with the cause , from uttering . any observations which could give offence to anv o » e who is absent , or using mv

      privilege—I ought to S 3 y , my duty—so as to create any feeliiig of pain or uneasiness to any one absent , « d I am sure I shall fulfil the duty which I owe to Mr . Frost better , and more to his entire satisfact ion , if I refrain from making any one remark whicti eoald creaw a moment ' s pain with respec ; to any past conduct or transaction . These Chartists , however , gentlemen , it must be admitted , stand at present in : relation to the present constitution as it was estab-I liihed in 1 S 32 , ju 5 t as the advocates of reform stood in relation to the old constitution , which was remodelled by the Reform Act ; and however I may differ from those who are called Chartists in opinion , I must do them the justice to saj that Chartism so ; far is not treason , nor ihe assertion the public as- j eertioa of . it rebeliic ^; and 1 must go further , and say that although I truat I shall never lire to see i tlie day , and I trust that noboay in whom I take ; aay interest , "wlki live to see the day , fatal as Ithink , ii - * ill be to the happiness , the prosperity , and the ; ¦* e U-beiB < of ihis cottawji whea these principles ¦—ihaU ^ i [¦ Mlliiiinl T <* 1 aiutt » TTSiTTtrbetT » ¦ | ¦

      | - four , and no attempt of any sort was made to escape by either , far less to resist by means of the ; deadly weapons that they had . " Indeed , so little : force or resistance was u ? od , that it wa ^ not once suspected they had any weapons at all , till th <* y 1 were brought to the Westgate and searched , and ( then they were fouud upon them . There can be no ' doubt , therefore , from all those circumstances , that so far as Frost was concerned , they indicate an in' tetition of doing anything but that which occurred , 1 at least so far as the sheading of blood is concerned . ; 1 cannot say the same with regard to the peace of the country ; because it ought to be fully understood that such » n assemblage of persons so armed—howi ever few ofthem . might be armed—so marching , for ' whatever parpose , is a gToss and aggravated viola-; tion of the peace of the country . But in addition to these circumstances , can you , gentlemen , believe it possible that this . iir . Frost , who is supposed , on the Friday , to have formed a Bcheme for throwing the whole country into confusion had actually on that very day made provision for a bill of his own , wfcishnntt « asunjL . due on the following Monday .

      confirmed opinion , a * ^ ps ^ m&m ~ M * g * of the intelligence and numfteri-s £ iW * bi » agik « sinews of the country , and the intelligence » hich controls ihat strength , shall finally Getermine to adopt the . Chartist code , doubtless , gentlemen , it vill be adopted , and mere wealth would , in my opinion , Krnggie against it in vain . With respect to the other poiat waich has been allnded to , the fifths—[ Several persons near Sir F . Pollock here assured him that . the fifth point—the distribution of property—was not one of the articles professed by the Chartists]—I am glad to hear it , I was oniy goisg to mention it for the purpose of making one xemark ..

      J $ § a Bd f « mto * t on the r&rf tejrMxmif )~ £ u > 4 ft of No-\ * tffflwr ^ -Bg | B ; lla&huit * ai ^ yroadetM . jJa * ^ ftat ; bUl -was sctuiUy - paWj « y xh <* $ e * p * eudai& , lIiB j the talcing and keeping the town of Newport , blow-J icg np the bridge , stopping the mails—eating up ! Newport—all of which are ascribed to Mr . Frost 1 1 and his companions—he having a wife and five j daughters and a son living in that very town upon ¦ which he was tupposed to have been directing an 1 hostile attack ? You are asked to believe what fell i from him at this moment , that he was actually pay-! ing one of his o ^ n shopbills in Newport amounting t \ to £ 180 . Gentlemen , taking all these circumstances into consideration , can vou believe that Mr . Frost

      Mr . Frost here spoke aloud for the firs ; time during the trial . He said , in a firm tone , and with that collected air which has never deserted him dsring the proceedings , "Sacii a thing was never contemplated , Sir Frederick Pollock ; there never was any talk about a _ distribution of property , otherwise than as it Dow exists . " _ Sir F . Pollock : Gentlemen , the idea is so chimerical , tna : I was orJy goinii to express mv utter cisbelief of a person of _ \ ir . Frosvs ability a -d tal-nt entertaining stch an opinion . Tnat = u < Jh a notion his been disseminated amonp : the lower cias . -es ¦ with 3 v ] ew to produce con-mo ; : jn and disorder , therecua-be no doub ; ; bat a > was said o- this s ! i " r > -

      leetoy oat of the most eloquent men that ever were at me Irish bar , I mean Mr . Cnrran , and in naming tan . Imsy say one of the mo : « t eloquent men that eTe .- lived , " Tna ; new distribution miffht make aaiy persons pcK > r , but it coulu mike no man rich .- " ine Sv-neme would no ; outlive the day on which it was carried into effect . It is c-ntrxrv to the law * of f -ro-a 2 nd of nature . Inequality i ' n wealth and Ration , and in that strength and those talents with Taich : t _ _ p !» = ed G « a to bless us , ra . r . " in the iB'T ^ e oi tbiDffs . exist : and the idea of oroduciu " Rich an entire level , although 1 believe it ha 3 exined a tne wild vagaries of that system caUed ' ¦ ' Suciaiissv distinguished , as it is , by its inpieiie * 1 bc-¦ neve rever entered into the m ' nd of anv sane ard le

      ra ^ ora- , man . Accepting , then , this " correction , se ^ -eE- ^ tT nich I cheerfully and gladly do it ap ' P ^ i tnat Chartism has a rinh article , that membe r * or r- ar-aaem should be paid . Now , do not unuersteQ m-u saying that , because dSrin 2 the process L ^! > fi ! J *^ - 11511 was doa « » many parts of tte c ^ try w hich finv years ago wonid h ^ ve been eo ^ acered treason , and dor . e without puni ^ nment oreprooi , nay , even encouraged—do not understand s » as saying , that for itat reason aay mau can proaote Chartism by any act circled against the peace « tee country . Nor do I put the dtlen c * o ) iLr . * rort oa the ground that these men were armed aud ssemoled tor the purpose of enforcing , in the remotest decree , Chanist opinions . Noihirg of the « ad . I claim , however , as I did at the outset , a « Bi £ Et , x favourable , nav . am I not entitled atVpr

      all that has taken place , to say a just construction ' « tnese demonstrations of force ; and that when uey do uke place , they shall not be considered as i naicatmg asy of those wild , dangerous , and despe-1 rate designs , of-w hich they might be the tokens in i » rmer naies , before we had tne experience of the Present day . Mr . Frost became a Chartist , and , - » - « e every matter upon which he entered , he became waions , devoted , and sincere , in the pursuir of his . i . ? :. ir « qnented meetings , and I believe if , comamthe

      e history of those meetingB , some of j mem Ke have-if we had had enough to enable us to j v * JL we F . tiieni Principles , their doctrines , their ! K «* pts , _ tneir practice-what was enforced ,, J « a-enjoined there -we should find no appeal Jo Physical force ; no wish at any ? Sl ^ riing u > ^ he expression of one of the wiS ^^ es , - of breaking the old law in order to to get a ^ one . » 1 believe with w ^ eS toTcorn ^ ***« , Buch u thai to which we hav ? S honour ^) W «» g , mere talent , without either the reality or t £ * PPearance of kindness of fedinz . can wJi ™! for the an

      ^ win possessor extensive inflneoce over *^ minds of men . Jlr . Frost po ssessed that kind-^ of feeing which is necessary , in addition to torf \ * ° Procnre " ^ ci influence . The Chartists * o id - ^ - wnBidered him as one well calculated •^ Wna them , and keep them from harm . It occur-• onTi ** - ? ^*^ Bamaxa assixes that Vincent vu aad v P ^ ^" and senteiiced to imprisonment , ^ j ^ aia Ktoation and treatment attracted much yTr ® 911 a the eoantry . The Chartiste , r ^ arding fifci » * rJ ! i Tictini J ^^ feeling * desire to testify fcte .- ^ P'Path y and ameliorate Ms condition in eiery 5 * i V ^> ***** Mr- i ^> st to take an actire HeniZ tbe 6 e Proceedings . He addressed the Lord Qj ^^ enaBt and the magistrates , and attended is

      » U to rUKUU'on tne subject . 1 tmnic i snail VtvJZjF * 6 J ° reason to snppose that when it was *« 2 Hr \/ n * " to physical forc « , ilr . Frost , as •• til iLif P * *^ Williams , disconntenKiced any to «« npt . I believe it wiO appear—it does . f ^ » endanw , that Mr . Frost , far from aesem-

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      an . early morning . Barna cas Brun saw him at break of day , and Ur . Frost , on being applied to , then liberated Bruffand Wat"iin . ji £ Frost is bound onwards to Pye-oorner , w tere * 1 say he did not , and could not , have met Hod ges . He is seenin Tredegar Park , on his way to N . j-wpoVt . One nwwiriB * lastatihe Boman Catholic Ch apel another on the pavement by the anchor-gnop , wherehe Baid "Turn round and shew your appear- ince in front ' ' The firing then began , and he is next , seen about ten o ' clock with his handkerchief up to " ais eyeg , as if he had been crying , some mile or two . miles from the town of Newport , and going into , a wood . Gentlemen , the conclusion to be drawa from tbia appears to me to be that Mr . Frost so little expected "

      anything tnat occurred in the town of Newport , or tha : those lamentable occurrence ' s would have taken place which he had expressly forbidden , that he retired from the spot afterwards with feeiiiiirs of sorrow , regret , and , 1 trust , of shame also , lie is next seen at the house of ilr . Partridge , whe-e he is taken by Mr . Phillips ; and the frank , fair , and manly manner in which thai gentleman gave his evidenee entitles him to , and , as far as 1 can offer him , my thanks , and that meed of approbation which he deserves . Clearer favour , more honourable testimony against an individual to whom he was opposed , I never heard given in a court of ju-tice . Mr ! Phillips responded most fairly and freely to everv question put to him . He was asked . " Was Mr

      rrcst acquainted with your voice I" " I iVmk he must haw known the sonnd of mv voice . " ' " Was any attempt made to escape V " No . ' ' " Did not the back of Mr . Partridge ' s house communicate directly with the back of Mr . Frost's house ! '' 4 > Yes . ' "Hearing the sonnd of your voice wa 3 any attempt made to escape \ ([ don ' t mean that these were the exact words , but the import and effect produced by them . )" ' None ; 1 called at Partridge ' s to open the door , and I male an effort to get in , and forced my way in - * ith another person , aad there we lound Frost , Waters , and Partridge , Frost having three loaded pistols about him , and Waters

      ever dreamt of commencing a Chartist revolution on that day , of directing & hostile and bloody attack on a town in which was the house of his family , his children , and all that was dear to him ? I now come to a part of the evidence to which 1 onght to have called your attention earlier . Mr . Watkins spoke to having seen rockets going up in the air on the night of the 3 J of November , and said it wasimpossiblethaihe could have mistaken for rockets the lights of the iron and . tin -works . It was to me impossible that there could have been any rockets fired that night , because if there had they would hare been seen not

      by one but by dozens of persons—not by dtzens but by hsndredi . My impression is there could have been no such thing . There is not the slightest evide- ce except Waikins to = how that anything like a rocket was fired . -The movements of the people , too , were watched by the mayor , who sent out scouts , who returned every half hour , and gave him information , and not one of these speaks to seeing rockers , nor a single rocket , or rocket-stick , or fragment found anywhere on the line of march . I cannot , therefore , help imagining that Mr . "Watkhia ' s iaipresrion is to be attributed to mistake or alarm , and

      to his imperfect recollection of circumstances since . 1 am the more anxious to call your attention to this point , because nothing can be more unsafe thau to get a great number of little circumstances , such as the mistake of " Watkiiis , the false reasons and conclusions of Captain Grey , aud the lake and absurd statement of Hodges , and to mix them up to support a charge—a charge which is warranted , by no substantial act on fie part of Mr . Frust . It is proved in evidence that the moment the military showed themselves , the mob dispersed . The very impression made by the military is the strongest and most cogent argument that tne mob never intended to attack the military , and you must suppose that tha moment they met the soldiers , and found themselves checked

      in tht-ir attempt t-o get possession of the prisoners , they were as much astounded as if they had found themselves surrounded by a whole anny of trooDs . it was what could not be calculated upon or dreamt of , and I think it will be believed . It is for you to say whet tier , if there had been no prisoners there whose release they were determined to effect , the day would not have passed without a drop of blood being saea . I believe that tie evidence before you will ; patisry you that the conflict arose from the demand wuich was maue for those prisoners ; that when the military appeared Mr . Frost immediately mired irom the scene : and at the instant the military fired-and they did fire the momeat tbev were

      seen—the people all threw down their weapons , and sought the refuge of their homes a ? soon as They could . Gentlemen , tnere was one circumstam-e which occurred on tnat day which I consider to be by i . o means unimportant . Mr : Frost ' s paper- were seized , I believe , before his person . M r . Phillips , a ? he stated in Jus evidence , proceeded to hi * house . He saw there Airs , i rost . The daughters of Mr . Fro * t assisted him by ginng to him all the papers which apparently belonged to their father . These papers are rtill in the possession of Mr . Phillips . He had a searchwarrant , which enabled him to ask for and obtain every paper on which he eonld lay hi 3 hand ; and , yet , gentlemen , the Crown has not ' been able to-find in

      one ^ nrate paper which there is one sinde line or one single syllable worthy to be laid before you , or prove any concert or intention , or treason in ' any shape or way . I hare a right , therefore , to say , * nat tnese three circumstances put together , demand themogt careful attention ; that the papers of Mr . Jrrost were searched , and nothing in them has been lound to corroborate the charge which has been brought against him ; that he had a bill due on that aay , ior wnich he had made provision on the Friday wtore , and those he loved , and by whom he wag oeiOTea were living in that very town which he is supposed to have assailed on that day , for the purpose of making it a scene of bloodshed and min .

      rating then Mr . Frost ' g conduct , his character and ius demeanour on that day , hig prompt surrender wnen accused of the part he had taken in the transactions , the issue of which he had witnessed but did pot expect . I see nothing which can warrant the imputation of the treason with which he is charged , and still lesg " of that strong , clear , and convincing evidence waion my friend admits must be produced

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      to work out the-pr iOof of it . Gentlemen , under theBe circumstances ,- L , ag ^ in Bay t } jat i ^ q ^ no pubirC measure that w UW Tend so much to the honour of the cou ntry , to , tbo \» eace of the community , and more \ o the quietir gtf lflat alarm which these lamentable transaction ? .- \ jave created , than a verdict of u not guilty fro ffl V < H 1 ) if jt can De pronounced by you with trut ) There is here no question of safety- — there is j ^ , . question whether you can with eafety pronoui i ( se tnat verdict . The single question is , can you pr enounce it with truth ; and if you ccn , you Wl 1 ' F / ovide the largest measure of safety to thj ! coun fry tiat can be bestowed upon it . If you can ! P ro' ^ ounoe it with truth—if you can assure her

      , ^ esty ' s subjects in ail parts of the empire that [ ' id thousands aud thousands who assembled on that aaientable occasion did not meditate rebellion- ^ ihxi their object was to enforce certain claims on behalf of a suffering brother Chartistthat accidentally prisoners were made upon the spot , where only they had the means of demonstrating their strength , and that in attempting to rescne them , when blood was shed in resisting this rescne , they fled iii dismay from the field which they had never intended to enter . I say that nothing can I occur more effectual to reassure the county and the j kingdom than your verdict of " not guilty , " if you j can truly pronounce it ; and more safety will be produced by such a verdict than if ten thousand

      troops were marched into the county to enforce obedience to the law at the point of the sword . You will free the county from the large 8 taiu—the imputations that have been cast upon it , and I think I may call in aid the fact , that , except the misconduct of some few isolated individuals , ' some thousasds of persons , with very little aggression or violation of private life , with none of the appearances or demands' of a rebellious or tumultuous meeting—ten or twelve thousand persons assembled and marched to Newport without a notion of levying war—that when the first shot was fired they dispersed , returning to their homes—and , mark this , gentlemen , I do not find it suggested that any one I single act of aggression of any sort , or that any

      j violation of the peace or the security of her Majesty ' s subjects occurred afterwards on that day or since that day ; gentlemen , tho rest of England 'ould hardly bolieve the quiet , tbe peace , and | security with which these proceedings at Monmoutfi have been conducted . It was perfectly right : where there was the remotest suspicion that an extensive treason existed in the county amongst , persons who were to some extent armed , and v ho I were capable of being combined 1 ^ say it was j perfectly right , in order that the high authorities ' ¦ of the law should be protected , and the peace of ¦ the town in which justice was to be administered—; that soldiers should be marched here for those ! purposes . But , treutlemcu , thoir services have been

      superfluous , as you have heard ; and it is right , then , to view the meeting and the marching of those men and the object 3 of it , with attention to this point—whether they could have been dispersed without danger . It is for you , gentlemen , to ascertain what is the just and reasonable conclusion to be arrived at after you go through all the circumstances of this transaction—those which have preceded , those whi < -h Epcompanied , and those which followed it . If you think that the solution of them which 1 have offered is true , ai . d I see no escape from it , then will the prisoner at the bar be entitled to a verdict of acquittal . But if you have any donbt—if the matter rost on that uncertainty which slmost every part of the transaction seems to me to rest upon—I have a right , upon the statement of the Attorney-General , I am entitled to say , gentlemen , that the presumption begins with Mr . Frost ' s innocence , and that it must be removed by certain evidence Defore

      he can be considered guilty . Gentlemen , if I have not exhausted the Eubject , I am myseif exhausted ; and I have now only to pray you , for the sake of the individual whose counsel Tarnfor whose sake , and for the sake of those who arc dearer to him than life- ^ -1 have to implore of you a calm and patient consideration of all the circumstances of the cssp , and that you will come to a ju ? t , and where you have a doubt , toa merc ^ fulffirierusion . I pray you to take into your considera * l / n all that belongs to the case of the- Crown and of the defence , in refererce to certain points ( they are not many ) which will be placed before you in evidence for the prisoner ; and may the God of truth and mercy lead you to a just conclusion . _ [ Sir F . Pollock was greatly affected at the close of his speech , which lasted for five hours and thirty five minutes , with the exception of ten minutes dqrfegwhich the jury retired . Attheeondlnaonft yPPiawL ^ ofappjause was commenced ,-b ftt was

      John Milton was then ca # e < f * . and examined ' by Mr . Kelly—1 am a lath-maker , and reside at New . pore . I have lived there for nearly two years . I was at Newport on the Monday morning , the 4 th of November last , about nine o'clock , at Mr . Batchelor s timber yard , at work there at my business . My attention was attracted by persons hurrahing , and I left the yard , whicu is alongside the canal above Corn-street , and about three hundred yards from the Westgate inn , and is nearer than the Westgate is . When I left the yard , I went up the lane nearly fronting the Westgate . I believe it is called Foundry-lane . 1 afterwards got eight of the mob just coming round the corner of tho Westgate , at the bottom of Stow-hill . I heard some of

      them cry out as they turned rouud . I went towards them , and heard them say they were come for their prisoners , who were at the We ' stgate ; and that they were deterinind to have them before they went bark . I heard that said by three or four lurking together in a cluster . I wns standing in the middle of the road in front of the Westgate . They had reached the steps when I heard those words . I did not see any constables at the door . I heard firing about two minutes , or less , after thit . I was then at the same spot where I "a ? , I stood and looked on for a couple of minute .-, and 1 moved to the comer of Mr . Lloyd ' s shop , opposite the Westgate , the comer of Fouudry-kne . I regained there no great while — I went round the corner just as the mob were dispersing . 1 went , out uf the way of the shot . The < vhule busine .-s lasted about ten minutes . 1 sjiw a

      person nam-d Lovell , when the mob were dispersed ; he was then at the top of the laao ; he La « l a wound in his thi ; , h . He called several times ior arista"ce . Alter he called 1 went and laid hold of his arm , and ' ed him to a house belonging to a ma . kamed Jenkius . 1 helped him to a room where he was put to bed . 1 did not stay long there , and fouud when 1 returned that the mob had dispersed . 1 wat afterwards sent for : an officer came after me , and 1 went before the magistrates for helping Ljveli . 1 stated to them what 1 have said to-day . 1 attended a . meetiug called by the -Working Man ' s Association . 1 do not know if they are Chartists . 1 have not intended it for nearly three months , and 1 do not now belong to any Chartist society at all . 1 have frequently heard Mr . Fros ; make speeches in public , and have always heard him speak in favour of peaceable behaviour , and against force .

      Cross-esamiued by tho Attorney-General—I never knew him to call together or persuade people to com 3 together with guns , and pikes , aud mandrils ; and at all meetings at which I have seen Mr . Frost , the people were without arms , aud met t ^ discuss polkiral questions , and to petition either House oi Parliament or the Queen . They were sometimes held in the day , or in tho evenings in houses by candle-light ; and sometimes there were meetings out of doors , near upo . ten o'clock in the ' evening , beginning about seven o ' clock . At those meetings there were sometimes resolutions passed and carrie i I nevfr knew of a meeting before daylight in the morning . Had left the association about a month

      before the 3 rd November . Had resigned going there about a month before . His name was not on the association . It was always the practice , on entering the room , to pay a penny or twopence , and the name wa * put down when the money was paid . Had done nothing to intimate that 1 had withdrawn my name . Have once been at a meeting of the association held at the Royal Oak . Don't know that is Mr . Frost ' s house . Did not know of a meeting held there on Thursday before the disturbance . Was at Newport the Monday of the disturbance , and the Tuesday . On the Wednesday after the disturbance 1 went to Bristol to see my frieuds . Was not afraid of being apprehended . Was taken into custody there , aud brought back to Newport . Never told

      my friends 1 was going to Bristol . Know "Waters , who is included in this indictment . The money , on entering the room , was paid to him . Don ' t know that he acted as secretary . Never stopped to see what name he put down when 1 paid the money to him . He had sometimes a pen in bis hand and a book before him . Had not a card given to him as a member of that association . Had one at the beginning of it . Had not exactly a card , but a piece of paper with writing on it . Returned it six mouths ago . Left it at the room , the time was np for it . Attended the association three or four times afterwards . Mr . Frost sometimes visited that association . On the Monday morning did not know where was to be a meeting at Newport . Never knew Lovell as a member of this association . Knew nothing of a meeting being to take place at Newport on the Monday . It was not advanced that he knew of . Knew nothiog of the meeting before they came . It was quite a surprise upon me when I came up the lane from tho canal to

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      the Westgate . Saw the people ooming down Stowhill armed . Some ( not many ) had guns , pikes , mandrils , &c . Did not notrceth «< mob try to enter at the folding-gates of the Woatgatei nn , leadinginto yie yard . Did not see any one of the mob attempt to get in at those gates . Can't swear no one did attempt . Saw no constables there , but saw constables in the moraing . Had been opposite the Westgate before that morning . - I saw two or three constables at the door . At tho time I heard that conversation with the mob , I saw no constables at the door . Don ' t kuow whether the door was open or Bhut when I heard the conversation . The persons whom I heard make use of those expressions were nearer to the road than the door of the Westgate .

      The conversation was amongst themselves . Did not hear them demand of the cotr ^ hle to deliver up the prisoners . Heard the mot'V' ^ u ' . feoy had come for the prisoners . Did not ¦ hoar ^ Jastequest any persons that they should be given up . " tvften talking amongst themselves , did not hear them say whence they had cpme . Can't say they did not say they had come from the hills . Did not see the soldiers , nor any firing at all from the Westgate . Hoard a ^ e firing afteri-the mob went to the door ; could ' not judge whether it eame from the mob or the military Saw no drio hurt at that time but Lovell . Saw several bodies afterwards . Was at the Westgate opposite about ten miuute * altogether . There was firing the greater part © f that time * but can't tell where the abets came from . Was not present when Frost was elected a delegate at this

      association . ¦ ;¦¦•¦ Re-examined—When I retreated to the corner of the lane there were ft groat many between me and the door , bo as to intercept the view . When I said I did not notice uurBpecial constables at the door , mr-attention w * s principally attracted by the mob . When I waa brought back to Newport in cua ^ tody they discharged mo , and brought it in as an act of humanity . . William Frost examined by Mr . Kelly—I am no relation to the prisoner . I am a labourer , living at Newport . Was there on Monday , the 4 th of November . Saw part of the mob arrive there . I was

      standing between Sir T . Phillipa ' s house and the gable end of tho Westgato . Saw the mob come in front of the Westgate . As they camo in front of the Westgate they desired me and several others standing there to clear the road . We did so . That was before we came to the front of the inn , within five yards . They told us at tho Bame time tnat they were going to clear the way for the Weatgato—they were going there for their prisoners . Saw them going to the farther end of the Westgate . On their return from that end I got to the front door . Saw them for the space of half a minute near the door , but was not near euough to hear what was transacted there . Saw them stand iu a body in the front of the doorway , and in the space of naif an hour heard some firing , and saw them rush into the house .

      1 went to Mr . Clement ' s , a druggist , at the corner of a street about thirty > ards from " the Westgate , aud there remained about two minutes . Went farther up the lane , towards ! home , tho back way . I heard firing during that time , and I saw Sir Thomas Phillips ' d father on the garden wall . The servant had placed a ladder there , to assist the old geutlemari down . I went up tho ladder and took him down carefully , and the servant and I carried him in our arms to a place of safety . I saw no more of the rioi . 1 did not go back . I have lived in Newport twenty-two years , except when at sea . Have heard Mr . Prostspeak . Reinomoer the time of Vincent ' s committal to prison . Mr . Frost recommended the people to be peaceable and go to their homes . There was at that timo a great deal of excitement among the people .

      Cross-examined by the Solicitor-General : Mr . Frost spoko from hia o * n drawiug-room window ! Believes it was the afternoon Vincent was taken from the King ' s Head . I bolieve at tho time of his commitment . Did not see the mob ao anything before they went to the further end of the Westgate . There is a bow in the window at the corner of Stowhill . They did hot break tho windows of the bow that I saw or heard before they went to the further end of the Weatgate ., I was there about two or three minutes . Wnen I went away they were firing Don't belong to any lodge at Newport , neither Chartist nor Working Men ' s Association , nor ever attended one of their meetingB . It is eleven years since I cam » my last foreign voyage . Have siuoe only gono on Bristol voyages . 1 left that employ about a month before J ^ hia concern . 1 woi k for Mr . Anthony Phillips , the . corn merchant , and have contiauad ^ at Newp 0 rj- « ince . Havo been discharging ii ^ aEfe ^' -J ^ ffi ^^ . ^ . !^ . ^ ?

      . tTSSSemm ^ A ^^ T ^^^ ** « w » , we mayor's iatlMraWRheSlSntGfthe-eonwrot Stow-hilt . He wa 4 « eifong On the wall at the back . in the lane goulfc to Raine 8 well » It is the same as Sir Thomas Phillips ' a house . Did not know one man amongst the mob . The men who told mo to clear the way were in tho middle of the road . The first threo or four ranks of tho mob were five or sis abreast . The rest behind seemed disorderly . Thoy called loud enough that they were going for the prisonors . 1 was two or three yards from thorn then . Heard

      them call out twice at least . There were only a few voices ealled it out , but bo loud that persons miglit hear it a good way . By tho foreman—As these men came down Stowhill thoy cheered . It was after they called about the prisoners . Did not hear any noise as thoy came down Stow-bill . Could see the whole of the front of the Westgate where 1 stood . The bhutters wore closed , all tho lower shutters , and 1 could see no soldiers . 1 did uot know there were soldiers iu the W ' estg&te .

      Benjamin Gould examined by Sir F . Pollock—1 live at Newport . I have been there for fifteen years . Am a painter and glazier . Was there on the 4 th of November . Was asked to go to the Weatgate , as a constable Was then a borough constable , and was asked to go as such constable ; and I went there about twenty minutes before the firing commenced . 1 was provided with a constable ' s staff . I was at the front door . 1 went there , but 1 was not put there . Others were there with mo . Saw persons come round from Stowe-hill , wkh arms . Some of them camo forward ( two men ) to the steps leading into tho Wes-gate . They went up uomo of the steps . Mr . llopkii . y , the superintendent of police , was at tho door , and asked them what waa it thoy wantodt The answer givou- waa , " We want our prisoners . " Then there wad a sort of groan made behind me f ora some of the special constables . The man who

      said , Wo want our prisoners , " had a stick in his hand , with a piece of iron at the cud of it . It was about six feet long altogether . A hand was reached out to take this spear or stick by one of tho special constabl e * inside the Westgate . There was a general rush into the Wt .-itgatc . and tho special constables went away . 1 weui-to the back , and next 1 heard h ' riug . That waa in the course of about asecond or two after the r'sh , just as 1 got into the back way . 1 was constable in May last . 1 was so at tho timo 1 was apprehended . There was a great collection of persona in tho streets at tho time , and much angry feeling between the people aud the constables . Frost went out on the leads iu front of his shop ami addressed the people to be peaceable , in tho nanits of God , ana to go to their homes , and not to molest the special constables . 1 have heard him give similar advice on other occasons more than once .

      Cross-examined Dy Mr . Serjeant Ludlow—It is about twelve mouths before the 4 th of November that I heard Mr . Frost last give this peaceable ' advice . 1 have been a constable twelve months . I was applied to about eight iu the morning of the 4 th of November , to go to the Westgate as a constable by ray employer , Mr . Francis Camden , a master glazier and painter . Knew that the magistrates were at the Westgate . Did not kuow that till seven in the morning ; th . it is , did not hoar that there was a body of men coming down from the hills till than . I heard it from the people in the streets . Most of tho shop 3 were shut . Did not kuow that the magistrates wero assembled at tho Westgate till half-past eight . Was at my employer ' s

      house , which is just by Stow-hill , at seven o ' clock and remained there till half-past eight , whoc I went to the Westgate . Knew tho soldiers were usually at the poorhouse . I 3 id not see any of them form in front ot the Wostgate that morning . Did not know any soldiers were there till the firing took place When I stood in front of the door I could not see the yard-gates . Hopkins was in tho passage near to the front door when the meu came up . Don't kuow John Waters . Know * Mr . Richard Waters , attorney , of Newport , by sight . Did not see him there au a special constable . Did not see Mr . Latch there aa a special constable . Did not s > ee Mr . Frost any part of that morning . When 1 last saw Mr . Frost at

      Newport it was about four mouths previously . ' Am not a member of a Chartist lodge or WorkingMon s Association . About eighteen months ago I attended aChartiBt meeting at Devonshire-house . 'That is the only time . The man who hold the ' pike , which was attempted to be seized , held it' upright . ' " No otfence took place till the special constables began the offence . Tho people were very quiet and peaceable till the special constable began the otfence . One Baid , " We want our prisoners , " in a low roioe like a man asking a eool question . About aa low as you speak now , or aa I do—[ witness spoke very audibly . ] The butt of the pikes rested on the ground , and nothing was done to create any disturbance before the special constable seized the pike , but

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      the groan from inside the door whioh immediately preceded it . Then followed the rush , and the special constables ran away . The special constables made more noise than aay one else . Did not hear any one of them call out , " No , never . " The sort of noise they made was rushing towards tho back door , as if the roof of the house wasfaling . Did not see ary raob rush in ; there were two men at the door . Tho rush was tho rush of the special constables to tho back door . Tho persons behind the two men , who came up to ask this question , mighs be about six yards behind them—from six to ten yards , more or less . I believe it was as much

      as-six yards . Don t kuow who the two persons were . Can ' t swear that either of them had a gun . Did riot see the two men move from the spot after they spoke . They might have stood two or three minutes by themselves six yards before the others , during which I heard nothmi ? but the question aud the groan , and heard no answer made . I heard there were prisoners in the Westgate when I fiivt went there at half-past eight , and that they wera prisoners taken early in the morning . Only knew that by being told . When the special constables ran away I ran away . I saw nothing to threaten or molest them before that time . I wasbefore the greater part of the special constables . I do not think any were before me . I was quit © in front . If any offence or

      violence had been used by those peraons before us I must have seen it . There was no violence or threat . Did not- see these two parsons , or any . of those behind , come iato the house . I went away to the back yard when the , special constables went away . When they did so their superiors , somo of them , ran away . I followed . I thought they might be going to do some good somewhere else . Thought it my duty to follow them . Went for that purpose , without knowing where thoy were gping . I heard the flringrwhen I got into the yiaf . Iwenfeaj «( iuf 4 iien .-it did not occur to me that I might be of any ¦ uso where firing was with a stick . I b » w Mr . Hopkins , the superintendent of police , run away , and I thought it my duty to run after him to assist . 1 went home to my wife and family to see if they were safe . 1 did not follow Hopkins . 1 thought 1 had a right to protect them . Know a person named Oliver . Did

      uot see him there . Know O'Dwyer by sight . Did not see him there . Saw Scard there ; that 1 know . Do net remember at the door or in tho passage any person in Newport 1 knew . Had thoy been at the door in front 1 mast havo seen them . 1 did not see the persons you have mentioned there . They might havo been behind . 1 cannot say they were not there . Cau't bring to my recollection the names of any o , t the special constables 1 saw there . When Frost recommended the people to bo quiet on a forir . or occasion , did not hear him tell the people to be quiet , " for the time was not yet come . # Did not hear all he said , but to the best of my knowledge , 1 did not hear him eay that , or any words to that effect . Stayed at home after that . Except from heading tho firing , 1 dou't kuow of any breach of the pcaco that day , nor of any fault iu the special constables .

      Re-examined—1 may be about six foet from that gentleman who has been putting the questious ( that was about the dista . ee ) . Sir F . Pollock—You have been asked about time as well as distance . How long has the gentleman been putting these questions ! Mr . Sergeaut Ludlow—As long as I pleased . Sir F . Pollock—Of course you have . Witness -1 can scarcely tell how long . Timo goes lightly with mo . 1 was at the right naud side . Ihe door opens on the right side of tho Westgatu . Ihere might havo been fort 7 or fifty pursnna in the passage when 1 was tire re . This was about nine ciock all crowded

      o . xney to the passage to sue the moo coming . They did so more out of curiosity than fear . 1 do not remember seeing any but Scavil and Hopkins . 1 weut etraight to the door of the Westgate . 1 saw nothing of the mob coming while 1 was in tho doorway . 1 was close to tho door at ono . time . At another time 1 mijdit have been two or three feet from the door . Tnae was a rush of theconstables going back . There was not much contusion ., 1 did not see who camo into the paseaire when the constables left . 1 did not hear firing betore . l got into the back yard . 1 might hare bee * then in the middle of the yard . Tha firing began perhaps in a minuto after 1 went ' to the back . y&Tu « By a Juror—You say there was a mob in front of the inn !—Witness—Yes . Were they armed I—Some wero . I saw arms with somo of thorn .

      Did-tho arms frighten you!—Not in the least . 1 $ ^ fat ten , examined by Mr . Kolly—1 livod in Newport for two years . I am a carpenter . I waa-itt-KwiDOjion the 4 ta of Novembor . I saw a nraltrtude of people' ^ oing-tftrtm Stow-hUl that morning . 1 waa then in my own room . My room is on the right hand of Chiwles-atreet , going up . From my room I can see Stow-hill . I went out to tho top of Charles-street , and went with them to the Wostgate . When the foremost oi' them arrived in tm ! mi- ° ^ i he We 8 fcgat 0 ? I wa 8 standing at Sir T . rhillips s house . I heard pome of them say they would have the prisoners thov had nut at tho W . > ata-ato

      Whon they saw that they wero coming down btow-hill they laid they ahould have them before daylight . W hen they arrived in front of the Westgate 1 asked if they would please give up the prisoners they got before daylight . Two or three Baid that , I cannot say . " Thoy were etanding a little distance , a few yards from the Wostgato Bt » p-. when they said that . 1 was not far enough forward to say who were in tho Westgate to whom thov addressed that ; but they ? aid something to some one inside . Some one , I cannot say who , s ; iid "Never . ' A . rush was , cloao upon that , made towards tho front door , and then 1 heard tiring . 1 cannot say that 1 saw any one go iu close upon tho rush . 1 heard tlufaring . When 1 heard the firing 1 w ; mt bark a < fur as 1 could go . That is all 1 know . 1 hoard the firing , but 1 never saw tho fmoke . Two or three voices spoke about getting tho prisoners .

      Cross examined by tho Attorney-General—The parcel of people 1 6 aw that muruiug were armed 1 hoy had guns , Bticks , &c . Tiioy were pan wa'knig abroad . They were waikiua ; "higgledypiggledy . ' 1 don ' t know what a , mandril is . They had ditfercnt things , but 1 did not notice them particularly , rforne had pickaxes , others had tti , ks . Ihere was iron at the end of the sticks . 1 did not see many with guns , 1 saw of this bo , y 200 < jv 3 ' . K ) . I hero were uot many more . 1 had a lull viev / of thoae on Slow-hill . 1 was a little bit farmed , but not particularly so , but 1 wished to sej what they would eay and do . 1 was never at a Chartist lodge . 1 did not know what they . came to do . I was uot at work that moruinir . I did

      not hear that they were to come down from the lulls . 1 believe that a great number of them weut to-tho gates of the hotel . 1 know the two bow windows in front of the Westgate . 1 novor saw anything done to the windows of tho Westgate . 1 ¦ id not hear a crash ol the windows . They wero not very tumultuous . Thoy drew up in from of tho Westgato . 1 am certain they said that the prisoners were taken beforo daylight . It was about nine o clock iu tiie morning when they came down Stowhill . It was broad daylii-ht two Lou's before that . Those that wero in tho Westgate were taken before daylight . Tho body of the mob stood for a Rpace , and asked for the prisoners who were taken before

      daylight . None of the mob went forward as spokesmon . They camo close to the door . 1 could only pee the stops , to which the mob came close up . Tho first moment or two they a , sked for the prisoner Smith ; then a rush was made . Then 1 heard firing , and took to my heels . 1 cannot say whether the mob had guns , pikes , or clubs . 1 cannot tell whether they wero armed for the biggest part . 1 heard acme one say , in a very loud voice , " No , never . " 1 waa distant from the door of the Westgate twentvfivo yards when 1 heard the words . 1 heard no groaning . 1 could not say whore the firing begau . No man could jud ^ o . You nor 1 could uot tell . 1 saw no smoke outside . It is likely enough the iiriug begun from the Westgate inn .

      Examination resumed by Mr . Kelly—1 was from the Westgate , at the time of the rush , twenty-five yards . 1 was on the level . The ground towards the Wostgate was on a rise . There was a great number of people between mo and the Wostgate . 1 cannot say which party fired the gun . ii . Thomas sworn and examined by Sir F . Pollock —1 am a carpenter , living at Newport . 1 have resided there twenty years . 1 remember the 4 th of November last . 1 saw the party that camo to Newport ; that was coming down Stow-hill towards the Westgate . 1 was then by the Parrot . The Parrot is in Commeroial-Btreet and Charles-street . 1 saw the heads of the people at the bottom . Not one of

      the mob « ame down Charles-street . Not one came down Commercial-street , so as to get in each other ' s tray . After seeing them 1 made my way to the Westgate . Not one of those armed people reached the Weatgate by Charies-atreet . Cross-examined b y Sergeant Wilde—My attention was attracted by seeing them go down the town . I came from the bridge of Newport to Newport . 1 came by New-street , Westgate Hotel , - and Cpmmercial-street . by the Parrot . I returned only part of the way to ( be Westjate , as far aa William Evans ' s , the fiTOter . below Corn-street . I remained there or in C&mmeK ^ itreet ' from twenty to twenty-five minutes . I then went borne , .

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      ,. ^^^ y ^ za /? oZ jl ^*^ Tho Reverend James Coles examined by vfr . Kelly—I am one of the magistrates for the to- ' . iof << - '' Newport . I reside within six miles of Newpor . on the Cardiff-road . I am awaro that Vinceiu va * sontenced at last summer assizes . I am not i ara that any parson but Mr . Frost interested hi :. elf tor change of his treatment in prison . Mr . ; oak addressed me on the subject . It was in Oc faor last that he directed the letter to me . 1 have n . ih » letter here . 1 waa not requested to produce it ' ere . Tho letter was inserted in the newspaper , ik by my directons . [ A paper was here handed wi , « ss , containing a copy of the . letter , whieh he w * ordered to read to himself . ) He said 1 have no < . mbt that is the letter *

      The letter referred to an application made o .. behalf of Vincent to obtain an amelioration of his treatment in gaol . Examination continued—1 . know not whethe aa alteration was made in hie treatment after thu :. I am not a visiting magistrate . Cross-examined by the Attorney-General—1 am not a visiticg magistrate . 1 know nothing oi the relaxation or discipline ot the prison . Abraham C . Ha-bury Leigh , Esq ., examine > r Sir F . Pollock—1 am the Lord Lieutenant o i ? county . An application was made vo n ; e b > ilr Frost on the part of Vincent . 1 have that let ; .

      [ The letter was here put in and read , and 7 is to the same effect as that alluded to in ike itav , , iaa Mr . Coles's examination , with thu ex . '•• . ; jtion ti- \ k is stated that a petition on behalf v-i liic priM-acrs was getting up , and prayed that Mr . Leigh v . mid not use his authority as Lord lieutenant to prevent a relaxation of the treatment . ] Examinati « g ** ft » umed ~ l cannot say that any aiteratioa' ^^ iiKJe in consequence of it . 1 mado no applio ^ Wfor their comfort . Cross-examined by the Attorney-General— - ? aai not a vjsitiug magistrate . 1 am not awaro that any alteration lias been been made in his treatment . Mr . Edward Thomas examined by Mr . Kell / -rl

      am a draper , residing : at Newport for eight yervrs . Letters for Birnunghain from , Newport go by ' iirigtol , and thence to Birmingham , 1 am not aware of any mail coach to Birmingham . My correspondent does not enable mo to show whether letters by mail to Bristol pass Newport about ten o ' clock ia the day . It goes through jthe old passage . The m % ii coach dpea not pass over the passage . 1 got int * another mail coach when 1 set to the passage . Th& passengers and letters pass the ferry in a boat , and another boat conveys them to Bristol . At present it arrives about foot or five o ' clock $ t Bristol . I never went north ' fjpto Bristol , r 1 do not know how or when the letters go . 1 have known Mr . Frost

      about eighteen yeariw V haTO ha ## ppqrjfcanities of wifcieisaing luB-pwKc , and-psiVate conatie ' . 1 believehe is not a person likejy to ' Subvert the state or government from all 1 could observe . His character ia truly benevolent . Ho always supported tha character of benevolence and kindness among his neighbours . . Cross-examined by the Attorney-General—I am a Chartist . I entertained the opinion about ten months . I am not a member of a lodgo . I havo not been a member since the 22 nd of July . I have attended Chartist meetings . I had attended one at Blackwood in June , at the Coach and Horses . Mr . Frost was present at the meeting . I attended ons at twelve o ' clock in the open air . It lasted on » hour . On the Ia 8 t occasion the meeting was held ia

      the open air . between bix and seven o'clock in the evening . We were addressed from the window . I dou ' t recollect attending meetings before day-Lreak , nor do I know of any . The meetings are generallyheld when the people are out of bed . I knew not -ing about the Newport meeting on tho 4 th of Noveiubor . I Lit -rested lnyaelt for Vincent . I was not award th . 'U . 1 meeting was to be held on the 4 th November in favour of Vincent . ' - It is usual for the working men to hold meetings oa Sunday . Public meetings are generally announced by placard . I had my power for conveying that on the 4 th . The mail-boy pas 3 es the Passage , a though the coach does not . So do lottors from South Wales to Ireland . Examination resumed byMr . Kelly—1 doa ' t know the distaucea of Birmingham from Bristol .

      Mr . Alfred Williams sworn and examined—1 am the proprietor of tho _ Tredegar Arms , Newport . I have lived there eleven years . 1 have kco ' wu Mr . Frost for eleven years . During that time his character for humanity has b «« n good as far as 1 know of him . William Townsend , examined by Mr . Kelly—1 am an iron merchant at No port . 1 have known Mr . Frost moro than twenty years . During that tim » his character has been good—none better that 1 know of . 1 have not of late years corresponded with peoplo on business . 1 don't know what time tho mail gees from Newport to Birmingham . 1 suppose thai a letter put in the Newport office would go by Bristol to Birmingham .

      Cross-examined by Sergeant Wilde—I do not know that the mail from Bristol gets into Birmingham at midnight . My son was convicted with Mr . Vincent at the last Summer assizes . I never said that the Charter should -be the . law of tho land by force , if by no other means . I never said that Mr . Viucent should not be committed if I was well at that time . My feelings for a moment were excited , but 1 never said bo . 1 did not say that if 1 was enfilciently well neither my Bon nor Vincent Ehould

      b « committed . Sir B . Hall , Bart ., examined by Sir F . Pollook— 1 first knew Mr . Frost in 1831 . 1 had ft-eqnent com * munications with hioij' -wad 1 saw him frequently from that time to 1834 . He rendered meiweistanod during my canvass . Fron » that period 1 first knew Him to the last ^ riodwh ^ jny . connection with him ceased , 1 never knew anything of him bu ! whal w » very good . 1 believe letters from Newport go by Bristol to Birmingham , The mail ia changed at Pa : v 32 go and thc-n an Bristol .

      Cross-examined by the Attorney-General—The last time 1 had any correspondence with Mr . Frost was whilst the petition agaiust my return in 182 » was pending . Tho Court rose at six o'clock . After the examination of one or two witnesses , to-morrow ( Tuesday ) , Mr . Kelly will sum up . Su « h he stated to the Court to be his intention .

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      ( SErENTH DAY . ) Monmouth , Tuesday Night William Morgan examined—I am a book-keeper of Pearson [ Hid Hearne , wholesale linen-drapers , of Bristol , ' itwy have had dealings with Mr . Frost for many years , au . i supplied him with goods in the wholesale line . Thuy so supplied him with goods prior to Xovember ! : iot . He had a running account of about £ 200 . Thu custom was for the traveller to so round and tr »

      v ; uue upon the customers . Bills were drawn and accepted . There was a bill of £ 57 , dated in August , for tl . vee months , due by Mr . Frost on the 4 th Day of November . I have the bill inclosed here—it is this . The hill is dated 1 st August , 18 ;; u . It is drawn by our tr . ivoller , William Woods , for the linn , upon John Frust , of Newport , accepted by him , and payable at th * West of Kugland Bank , Bristol . That was duly paid at tho kink . Wo had bills of that sort from Mr . Froab four times iv year .

      Cross examined—Our house disposed of the bill by payim-nt ton Mr . Mann , of Shafteabury , and we heard no more about it . John Chaplin—I am a book-keeper to Chapman and Keaford , Bristol , linen and Scotch dealers . They had transactions in business with Mr Frost prior to November last . They for several years supplied Mr . Frost * and our course of business was to bo paid by a bill from . Mr . Frost , which was sent to him and accepted . Prior to last November Iseut a bill I ' tr his ; uxeptanee . Th » lust bill for £ 11 D lls . was duv- on tho 27 th of October last . Our house had dea . lt with Mr . Frost in that way for ton years , and he was always * remarkably punctual in his payments . This last bill was paid . Cross-examined—I think I never saw Mr . Frost ia my life . The name of John Froat appears in our book .

      % examined—I never wont to Newport in my life . Tf Mr . Frost had come to Bristol it ia probable I might have seen him . Mary Jones examined by Mr . Kelly—I live just by the Blackwood , the other side oi the river , next door to James Hodge . I know him by his i ' aue ( personally ) these two years . I called at his house the day of th& riot at Newport . I was there betweeu the hours of eight or nine o'clock in the moraing . He was then in buJ . Cross-examinod by the Solicitor-General— -I cannot tell how early I got up that morning , for my

      daughter was m a decline , and I was up and down all uight 1 breakfasted that morning after I saw Hodges . I went for milk that morning , and after I had left it at home I turned in to Hodge ' s house , seeing the door open , and said to Mrs . Hodges , " Mary , did you hear the people going down , ' * « ays I , " last night , " andah » showed me her husband and said , " Here ' s my old man , thank God . " I did not see James Hodges that morning before I saw him in bed . I cannot say if his wife was up . I suppose she waa in bed aa well as I was . Nobody was living in my house but myself and my daughter .

      Henry WilliamB , examined by Sir P . Pollock—I live at Newport , and am an ironmonger . I keep a shop of my own . I remember Monday , the 4 th « f ¦ November . I saw persons coming down Stow-bnV -. I was at the Westgate when the mob . came up to i ^ . ¦' I was there as a special constabla . The mon who nrafc , , f came up to the door said , " Surrender up your pn-, ' , Boners . " . , . . .... ¦ :, , ., . ' ^'• ' ¦' ' * Cross-examined by tho Attorney-General—Ihadtb * ' / "' honour of acting aa the mayor's aid-de-camp very early ' in the morning . \ saw the mob about two mile * or twa !

      miles and a-haif off . I then w&it op Pye-coraer , which ' '' is beyond Tredegar-park . I saw a great number , armed r in variousiwaya with pikes , gona , and mandrils . I saw one party which ww between 400 and £ 00 in anm * ber . When I aaw the mob a second tine , they > w »» - about a mile from Newport . They wen then HUfng . and cheering . As soon aa I - saw the body , I-t £ MHMta . to the mayor and told him > jhat I had aeen-TBgail wero then scar the macliin * I did not obtira vbrfKEiK they divided . When I returned We KKonrfSjjHmi was stationed at the Weatgate door . I xemffiHSBH ^ until the mob cams down to the Wostgai ^ jflMH |^ KEj ^ ( CmHttued in vwr Fourth P °# Vj { p ( KES

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Jan. 11, 1840, page unpag, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/king-y1kbzq92ze2666/page/1/