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Mr DEinTBiESBs ; - ! trust that by this fame yoil entertain the belief that I did not venture upon a mere haphazard guess when I pointed out the many collateral questions depending upon the issue * of Sir Robert Peel's commercial policy , and { hat I did not make much , of a miscalculation as tothe period when the * measures still debating would be . brought to a final close . : Donbfless yourecollect the sanguine anticipaf ions of theifree trade party upon the conversion of Peel and Wellingtsn to their policy . Ton also reject myrpredictibns for the last eight years , that three years , at least , -would be the period that any
Minister would require for finally adjusting the question . Ton remember my several retorts upon the guesses of the Junes as to the certainty of a TOTAL REPEAL . . Yonjememberthat a fortnight before Sir Robert ' s present policy was hinted at in the City article of the Times , that I bad faithfully sketched the very projeetTrith which he met Parlialrientnpoiu i . Tou recollect that for months the Times was occupied in allaying the fears of the landed interest , with the assurance that every country in Europe , ' as well as England ^ required an additional supply to meet the year ' s scarcity . Well , now read the following from the JTmaof this ( Wednes day ) morning ;—
-,, ,,, COBS . EXCHAKGE , Monday , Afktl 27 . The arrivals during the past weak were moderate of all _ British grain , but ABHSDAST . OP POEEIGN . The sngplj of wheat from abroad equalled about 20 . 000 quarters , with about 20 , 000 barrels of flour from America . The continued delay oftaeCornBill operates very prejudicially for business in this market , and is beginning to work with serious injury npon the interests of both importers and purchasers . The OVERLOADED STATE OF THE GRANABIES A 3 TD THE COXTIXUEb ARKTXAIiS , without any immediate prospect of clearance , Seep the foreign trade in an altofrether . ' stagnant state , and . disarrange the course of business to an extent only known : o those' engaged in it . .
Row . ' whafe ^^ a ajthink of the "ABUNDANT LOA ^ ETfrfiTE ^^^ T ^ GRANARIES AND EXPECTED ARRIVALS 1 "—while we hear of frightful scarcity in Belgium and other countries , on the continent of Europe ^ JBearpiu ^ mindi that'iir xs ^ s ^^^^^ as ^^^^ B ^ a ^^^ ia ^^ y Iliavajbeenwn ^ udy ^ dranlngthe ^ f ^ i into yom ears ^ hatr foreigarpric ^* "fiowever "high * , would not ti &^ he \ Engarih matfoetVcthat i however scarcity mayipig ^;; iG . ; o & ot cb ^ ffie ^^ fiee \ jtedejn . a ii ^ uM ^ lrquidinvite ^^ fdreignersCM « rtMtlwt
^ joaj ^^ ot their sorpl as , out what ^; arfually ; r $ ' qu ^ . % " thenecesStiea bf ^ f . expoyjm 0 ^& tel ;^ 0 sh ' oril tb ^ thefcroign : merchant or Ensliah-speculaig ^^^^^^ M ^ amon ^ i ^ e ^ ^ n ^^ m ^ E ^^ p ^^ aiuwa ^ ^ s ^ tl ^ pu ^ 1 l ^^ M ^ m ^ on ^ m ^^^ i ^ - ^ Ms ^ mk ^ ts ^ -riji ^^ feiVitt ^ Sfe ^ t ^^ ' ^ - ^^^ - ^ v ^^' mppgMS- ^^^^ S ^ S ^^^^ M . * nka , : v ^ pb ^^^ i ^^^ M : j ^ : fri »^ tTu 3 ymirccoUect ^ hat ^; jaln ^ t « se ^ 'te §^ ^ . ^^ Cobr
2 enIvcaTOed # p *^^ vrould merge into'otie ' of ^ political intrigue ^ and that , wifea * thM , jpjfar ^^ meraialjih _ the political question ; ' Tv * el £ as far as passing ^ efentl can sustain t his position , they claily srreh & nen ^ ir . - ; because wefcidlto .. CoMen dining with Lord Monteagle and others of the Whig Ministry and ^ e *^ ectan ' s ~ of office ; we find Lords Palxaerston and ] Srey contending for the patronage of Mr . Cobden , and we find Mm on all hands an expectant for political power . -.
My friends , when I have been right upon so many questions , uponwhich the ' entire press of the country and a large , amount of public opinion has been in error , I consider my opinions entitled to some weight with your order . The future " prospects of this <» nntry—her difficulties and dangers—are mapped ¦ very clearly tomy viewyhoTever the press may attempt toobsC ^ themifromTalgarvision ; or how . ever confidence in thestrength ; . of a Ministry pnlynow
powerful by an unnatural coalition may appease the fears of the trafficking community . I tell you that , however the present great question may terminate , Peel , like Aeteon , will betorn by his own dogs . I have told you ; thav it was one thing to reconcile a party to be shorn of a portion of their political power , while they still possessed sufficient to uphold i , heir sway and preserve their privileges , because they well knew that resistance to the national demand
might be followed by the requirement of larger concessions—but that it was another thing to reconcile them , at one and the same time , toaloss of property , paironagei ^ iaupn ^ . andj > 05 rer . _ Jt isjnoiihsJnteres ^ r norhssiteyerbeenihe policy ; of Sir Robert Peel , to court popular support as a means of Ministerial strength . Be boasts of being a Constitutional Minister , yeaTso confirmed is be inthe usage of Par ' liamant , that , like the Welsh Jiidgfe who preferred ' being drowned in his carnage because there was no precsdentfor a . Judge sitting on the box with his eoaohman , that * i-: verily believe Peel would prefer b ^ gjjnned-in ^ e ruins of the House of Commons , ratnettSMconin ^ Chaplain of / tfeSpeaker had sanctified the building , and asked a ^ les ^ fof thVinenibers . "' - : ; :
-Neitiierfwouldit be the ' jnterest of the Whigparty « J ^& e ; fiee / fedei > a » ty to promote agitation just MwS ^ iMsfTM must be constitutional and ^ eTestoration of the Wh igs must be unpremeditated and ^ nnsbngEfc- fori It ; rmist be an act of necessity and a dire necessity , a necessity the evils of which may hfaverted and which may be turned to good if you are jir ^ A | tEfi 5 S ^^^ tHE DAT OF ACTION . Leins noV take a brief view of the many dangers
- £ hat threaten both at home and abroad . America , with a vast influx of Irish vengeance and English Chartism being daily wafted to her shores , isincreas Il-o- in growing hostility to her imperious parent . America feels and knows that the standard of democracy once practically established Li that country , and the non-intervention principle once decided upon , English oligarchical power must tremble and fall before the growing genius of an enlightened people .
France holds her peace upon the fragile life of an old man . Spain is in revolt . Portugal is in rebell oa . Prussia is demanding a constitution . Switzer land is looking to the remodelling of her Republic . The Italian states of Austria are only held in bondage by a military sway and police surveillance that is becoming too expensive for their tyrants . The Northern tyrant is trembling upon his throne for the atrocities he has committed in Poland . The Austrian is co-partner in his misdeeds , " particeps minims" in Ida guiit . England thus threatened from abroad is surrounded with domestic difficulties . Ireland , outraged by her foul dominion , but watches the
opportunity to throw off her yoke , wildcat home her € very town is garrisoned with its myriads of unwilling slaves who never have been reconciled to her policy r her law , with minds growing in intellectual greatcess , each , inspiring the other with the nope of a better future , all communing together , all preparing to act together ; all inclining to the one opinion , te the same reselve , that the POSSESSION OF THE LAND , and that alone , can place them in the situation of freemen , make them independent of the mystery of the law , the caprice of capital , the whim ef the justice , the centralization of government and the dominion of class legislation .
In my letter of last week , I told you , that all who looked beyond the present machinery for the adjustment of party squabbles are now directing their attention towards that very project which , for years , I have been incessantly instructing you upon . I have made calculations of the amount of revenue that a wise and honest application of Irish subscriptions would have placed at the command of the Irish leaders . But , alas 1 there were too many claimants for the dribbling pence , too many months open for the seducing offering . At length , however , the Ration newspaper , as you will find from an extract
published elsewhere , has been compelled to recommend the adoption of our policy . Nay , reviled as we are , I defy the nicest critic to point me out one Eir-gle improvement made in the machinery ef free trade or repeal agitation that has not bsen taken from Chartist policy and adapted after successful trial by us . This is not wonderful , because tb « 5 e who wear the shoe are the most likely to feel where it jiaches ; those who have suffered the most heavy persecution are the most likely to discover * the pro-£ tablc time for braving its vengeance , and the season ' able period for abstaining from conflict .
Afv friends , I have shewn you that it h not the policy of Peel , of the Whigs , or free traders , to exhaust public opinion just now in premature agitation , end I hare laboured hard to convince you that illsnot our policy to doso either butit is the policy
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of the Protectionists who watch . the tide of events a a godsend , in the hope of strengthening the pretensions of Lord Stanley and the old Tory party who grasp for an opportunity to restore the dominion of their faction in this country and in Ireland . Now , herein lies our difficulty ; while we avoi d Scylla we must not fall upon Charybdis . While we pronounce against old Whiggery we must not enlist under the banners of old Toryism . 'Infighting the battle of protectionnnder Stanley . Bentfnck , and Miles , we
would be fighting against ourselves and nvettmg chains which it may cost us years to throw off ; whereas remaining a party of pbserration . determined to act as an army of occupation when the squabblers of the several factions shall have weakened their united power , we become respected , strong andj dreaded . I am induced to write in this tone because an attempt is being made in the manufacturing districts to seduce us . into an unnatural coalition , to force us into an unseasonaele agitation .
When I have been engaged in unravelling the whole question of free-trade for you ,, the very "Pimps " who are now seeking to cajole you described" me as the hired tool of the landlords . I told you a thousand times , that , if I protected their plunder from the ravaging power of the . free traders I merely did so until you should be prepared to establish your claim and have your roll share in the partition . The value that I haveshown you to exist in the land , the great , the mighty , the cheering progressi'that ^ on-have . Tnadain ^ the Imowledg ejtf-agnemtural scjenee / th e
iixm : ^ i longing ; wishful eye wiih = > hich you ; loofenponthel " ! ahd ; as *! "the > only meam ^ Syofettflemptiofii & Nm slavarvYthe trortTOdVielnrent hope' thaVHts * posses ^ sionvrOlrestbre ; yon ro ^ ypurjustposition m , society ! make youkmd , andlostering narents mstejBWLqf erne ] . taskrnasters ^ rtliat it will make your ^ yjr ^ ofls wivra " amiable instead of disreputable in the eyeg'of society ' and thejwbrld ^ . that it will make your , littlo children growp ^ tSnaturVsstondard instead of beingstunted tyMe ^ 1 j $ l ' pp ^^^ py 0 ^^ 03 r ^ p &» i ^ iss ^^ - ^^^^ s ^^^^^^^ 0 X \^ i ^\^ mh
: en ; , ari 8 tociai ^ toT Jrototy 8 ur , erit ^ ce , y ^ andyourpriyik ^ esj a ^ theso ^ cj ^ coofirmmeintheb ^ ef & at you ^ divisionVif partyy ^^ E ^ ABTI ^ II O ^ ME SQILjjmdfofthe : as ^ eiftiori of yourTi ^ hfe ^ ' ^•^ ? aui strengthened in' tl ^ belief' by ^ th ' e' fact' that every pen m > w , wri ^ about , ' every brain ^ ow / , th & % - ; , abpu ^^ jif AD POLICr of Feargus d . 'Connor ! . ^ If ^ yer , in |[ ined to betray you it would be less than ever ' worttirny wlule at the present moment ; when -yo ' a are ; upon the eve of
victory , and when the several contending parties will be compelled to ' court and , supplicate your aid . * 1 owe a debt to the Irish oligarchy , and it is the twin brother of the English oligarchy , whichno other man living does owe them ; and just at the time when their broad deminion is tottering and must 'fall , I am hot the man to prop their staggering , corruption , to uphold their ill-used power . Whoj mayl- ^ ask , is now the paid tool of the . landlords " . Those' < who . are in counsel , those who are in league , \ jw & Q \ who are in collusion with thehired tools . of tlie Buckingham ' s and the Richmohds , ; or ^ Feargus O'Connor ? . i \~ ,,: '" ,
v My friends you have never thought soberly for an hour on the plant and growth of Cha ' rtishi ; yoii have never reflected upon its purity and virtuo ; 7 it has never struck-you that its strong sense of jight and justice , and not the denunciation of Feargus O'Connnor , hasrousiedthe profligate and drivehthe faithless fr < an our ranks . The history of Chartism has never yet been written .. __ It shall be . one ; dayV and then , if not fouled , or deformed by its own sup-i ' porters , it will stand fair contrast with-any movement that the world has yet witnessed . It is agreat and mighty monument ; a tower of strength to the righteous andi a terror to the ^ ejU doer _ . ^ . Mejv : pf-Manchester , " I learn" that ^ he emissaries"' ihe "
English -ligarchy , the boasted supporters of Church and King , the duckers of the Jacobins , the mortgagors of your [ labour , theusurpera of yourjrightsj t tfie ' suppressprs of your privilege ^' " ' the abridgers ^ oF your amusements , the desppilera ~ oT jo ' sr homes , " are amongst you , and I-have-been invited to meet , oppose and expose themKr Butythink ; for ; a moment what ; a reflection , iny ^ aceeptance" of tha invitation would be upon the courage ^ and . wisdom of Ithe strongest of our garrisons . i- ; In Manchester there has ever been a home ; fpr thefpersecuted , even amongst the starving ^ consolation : for ^ the ; oppressed / hope forthe timid ; 'arid Wconragement for the ; faithful . V
r What , then , cojrfdiny pigmy power in such an " unnatural war as the whole people against a few hired emissaries be more than as a drop of water in the ocean ? I tell yon , men of Manchester , that I was warned of this more three months ago by an honest weaver in Spitalfields , who told me , that , although dangerous to him , I might publish his letter . He wrote to me that the agents of Buckingham had mistaken his house for that of Sherrard , and that they had acknowledged te his wife that they bad purchased the services of Sherrard and others of hfe
trade . It appears now that this man and his coadjutors have enlisted the art of one who has long lived upon the defamation of Chartism , and that under such auspices you , the men of Manchester , are called upon to rally on Saturday noxt , at Stevenson ' s , square . It would be presumption on my part even to hint to soldiers , every one of whom is a general officer , and therefore I merely write upon the subject to tell you that your duty calls you to the battlefield—that to stay away will be set down to acquiescence , andthat when you are there I have little doubt that you will teach the pigmy foe the folly of
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seeking to convert a great movement into an oligarchical struggle for the preservation of landlord ' s power . " Bide your time , " and if you can believe that there is philosophy in Tory idleness , Whig idleness , and Free-Trade idleness , baliere also that there is policy in Chartist idleness . The good general will always bring bis troops fresh to the- conflict—the reckless and foolish will offer them as an exhausted prey to the enemy . I have ever thought that execution should follow design as the tbunder fallows the lightning , and it * we were now to exhaust our resources by fighting agai » st the air , while there is so antagonist in the field , the Directors of your movement would be charged with imbecility if they
presented an exhausted agitation to a fresh and vigorous burst of factious strife . Had we called our Convention a fortnight ago we should have been engaged in talking about things that might happen , whereas , by watching events , wo will call it when we can MAKE THINGS HAPPEN . So with agitation . The country feels disappointed , when it is uselessly promoted and mischievously dissipates without leaving even the semblance of benefit behind , ^ ely upon me when I assnre you that the approaching Trade Conference at Manchester , and the approaching Chartist Convention to be held in London , will develope an amount of national strength never before exhibited in this world ; but then the intent must not be foiled by trafficking pedlars , who would as soon live upon dead as upon li ? ing Chartism .
I trust I have now said enough te convince you of the duty yoa owe to yourselves , your country , and your party ; as well as the debt you owe to those who would seduce you from your allegiance to one and all . It was my intention to have written this week upon the healthful state and future prospects of my rosyiaeed infant , but I consider my first duty due to his eldest brother who is jU !) t gaining strength and recovering from a long fit of illness , and 1 remain , my friends , Tour ever faithful friend and servant , FEARGUS O'CONNOR .
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HOUSE OF LORDS- ~ MoKnAY , ApwlIi " ~ The Duke of WBixiNoTON . presented a petition from the mayor and corporation of Winchester , praying for the adoption of some plan to provide employment for prisoners on their disharge . . v >~ -. The Marquis of Sausburt presented more than forty petitions , praying that there maybe no removal of protection to agriculture . A great number of petitions were presented a g ainst the Charitable Trusts' Bill . F ™ W ™
CORNLAWS .-STATE OFPUBLIC BUsiNESS . Lord Brougham moved for five returns connected with the importation of foreign corn , and also of corn from Ireland , , and these returns coald not be objected to , as they had been already given to the other house . It might be said that he was anticipating the discussion of a bill which would come before their lordships from , the other house . He saw , in various places in the votes of the other house , that , at various times , this subject had occupied many days of the present session of Parliament ; but the state of . the business of this great country had been brought , according to the votes ,-which were the only record to which he could hare access , —by the , constitution of . this country , he was bound to say , —by the law of Parliament , he was bound to admit—with the most petiect reguT lafity he would not deny—to such a state that in thi foreign capital from which ' he had just returned grave
: doubts were entertained by some friends of '' 'his ' , frVSni ' wnbni'he differed '' in opinion , ' and who ffere opposed toapopnlar system of goveriimehtj \ witli "?& pptto theexpediency ; $ r given was-that ; tfieVflature ' o ' fjthe ^^^ toi $ ^ ruc ^^^ Hf ^ # fr ^ yjrr ! teoW ^ ist ^^&»^\ 8 ^^ ' thiSfsW S ^ p / . -. r )> hi 5 ? rraa he , Jjmlyj . and . ^ nscientiousfe ^ andj ; serioua ! y - believid . xft . r well . r , egulai ^ constiWt » nal VonarchR : actmg ; . with . aiwell ; regulat ^ ireprcsenta tiw'system ;* td '? be , —siich-a power ¦ bfrre ^ adaptihr itself , that it heterfailed ^ gerridof the " terjftforai ^ ' obstr dc tidn ' / 'amftei restore 'Barraohy-to themacliine ? If ^ thWeTay / jn ^ htfottiet'li ' ouse ^ ^ waa'likelytb ^ preveht aa ample discas 3 ioji „ oF ; the . com ; meKi 31 pohcy VolTthe MivAmmonr nnmnn tho nwsont caootnn thAM Ka nmil
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nu ; . p ^« r ^ v > amB % p % ^^^ u ^^ n ^ u ^ vQiU | ^ uw ^ i ? comirig . to-a * -deliberate ar id ^ 6 nthissubjedt 20 Cne ^ , hWrl ) i'Mi & sm ' m ^^ tbr * moyin g ^^ e ^^ j ^^ j ^ 3 f in ^ o c ^ a fortoj ^; eR- ^ ej ^ fouts > 7 he 8 h & D / dfpereeiyo ; fbv- ; i . fecaurse : tB ;^ e ' saine rewEd ^ : tha obstruction WthisjandtoaU-busiue ^ e ^ feoj > ilc"his ^ unden ^ u ^ iifls it was unquestionably , their '; loru " ships !; TiKht ^ dfieUss the . subjeet'by thenij \ selvesi witho ^ waitingjqr / any bill ,-- t 4 g ( ve , them ^ n opportunityTof ^ tleliberatel y discussing and pronouncing an opjhion on tb ^ egeneral principle of tbis ; great and important % conimercial change . He confidtfntly , , expected they ;^ wouId ' , | prdnounce ; in ^ favoulRaS ^ he governnient - plan , and . thus prevent aUJfdi ^ cffibb- ' structions elsewhere . ' r ' - ^\ ' i 5 The returns were then agreed ' . to . T . ; . ! --... ,. ..- '' ¦ "' ' ; isaaLWAisistanding . oIders ! ' « , ¦!'¦
-The EiSj'bf JDiiHonsiE- then moved ,. that afsimilar set of ^ resolutjons to - thoi ^ gi ven'JBy' n ^ Mt' ^ etek as havmgbeerimoved ifi \ thefHoui ^ tVCoimmons ' i by Sir iUb ^^^^^ hdul ^ bq ^^ T ^ dV ^^ - 'sesam order . ?^^^ rj-:- ' ?^ r .- < s : " i ^ l ^; " ' ^ " "" . k > - . ^ .- ^; . ' ; A disbn ^ i 6 n : ensue ^ fin r whicn'ih * ge ^ the-governmenC with 'JjfeTe ' rehce io ^ railjvays | wasfap j proved , tu'do | ii > severaljdbjeciions - ^ were' made ttdJits ; details . ^ - ' ' ^^ Zii-j ¦ ¦! £ &'¦ :. ' ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ' f . ' : ' - ?¦;< ¦ _ , _ . t ^ i % }! > ; $ & The resolutions were * greed to ; " arid the HopseTadJ journed at eight o ! fcloek . , . - ' * '• ' - '' z . ' . J- "' - . . > y V i " ^) iM : oi ? qo $% Ns ^ N ^ Si ^ " The house met at four o ' clock ; ' ; = > 7 - >;^ t \ : •
' BRHJPORT ELECTION . : ^ : i : Mr . C . Wood appeared at the bar with tho ; rcpbrt of the committee appointed to try the merits of the p ' etitiep j against the ' late return for , this borough . The report stated that Mr . ; B- Cochrane was no & duly elected , and ought not / to have'been returnedpbut that Mr . 'John Komilly had been-duly elected , aiiil ought to have beenreturned . ' ; ' ¦' - ; - ; .-: < $ . > , r-iThe report was ordered to lie on the , table , andthe ^ clerk ' of theCrpwn was ordered to attend on-Tuesday to amend the return . - . — ---- r- : 'C t ^^ 4 # 9 fr ^ riod , of . th ^ p |^ gave rise-to a / con versa t ion -on a q nestioin' put-by ^ A ! r . " Christie te ^ ho . Chairman of the Committee , to asscertain whether that committee had ; not , . as ^ was . the general'Impf ^ ion . beinaparty . tba . cdn ^^^ twaen the rivai ;' candidatrai 'U ) y . whicK' the ihvestigation into the charges of bribery ' - Had been prevented from proc € edin £ ' . ^ denied in effect "that the ' Committee ha'dBeeneognisaht of any su ' ch ^ mprbnSise ' . ^ Mr . ' BankesV Snv ; G . Grey , and other membersVjdined in thecohversatiohj which was ultimately sidpped by the Speaker ,- as "disorderly , "' -r ' : ''' : ¦ . -rj ^ , ^ >;^ ,-, n-, ; . : <^ ,.: i y .: vz tw . "
; REFUSAi : X ) F ; AKrMSKlffiM ^ ErVTlO - ^ j serve on ; a : select jcoMgrTT ^ E ;^ rtMr . Esicouax reported , from acommittee ; in group 11 i that they had met ; that dayj i and that ; oneM the members ( Mr .- = W . S . O'Brien ) did ; no % ttend ; and thatithe committee haying waited 7 forhis arrival'lor one hour , directed him ( Mr , Esj ^ ourtj ^ to report tlie circomstancetd the house . ^ ' IIenpwmoved : that Mr . W , S .. ' 6 'Brien be directed , fo attend the ; committee tomorrow ( this day ) . The " .. question , ^ was ^ th ' enput and agreed . to ' nem . coti . ' J 'f ' " . '' Mr . W . S . O'BaiBW begged respectfully to say— - and for thereasons which hehad formerl y given—that he would not attend the committee .
EVICTIONS ON- THE WATERFORD ESTATE . On Sir . J . Graham moving the order of the day that the adjourned debate on the first reading of the Protection of Life ( Ireland ) Bill be resumed , Major Bekesfobd availed himself of the opportunity to reply to the statement made on Friday last by Mr . J O'Council , relative to certain evictions from the estate of his noble relative the Marquis of Waterford . Considering that that statement was taken from the columns of a public newspaper , he could not refrain from expressing a wish that Mr . J . O'Conaell had exercised the same caution with respect to it as he had recommended the public to exercise with respect to a statement affecting the property of his
own father , emanating from the same quarter . After reading the statement in question and a leader from the Titnesou the subject , the lion member proceeded to give a counter statement . He asserted that not one tenant and that not one cottier had been ejected from the estates . Some persons who had squatted on the property had been removed from it , but not an angry word had been used on the occasion ; on the contrary , after they had received the compensation which the Marquis of Waterford offered them , other individuals in the same situation expressed their readiness to pull down their own houses , if the same compensation were paid to them . So ruthless , then , had been the extermination practised by the Marquis of "Waterford , that , strange to say
many pereons who Had witnessed it had requested to be placed in the same " exterminated" condition . The noble Marquis employedn inety men in draining in one place , andgave employment to 300 in another , and every improvement was promoted by him . The kindness of the Marquis of Waterford to his tenantry and dependants was constant and unvaried —( hear)—he lived among them for nine months in the year out of the twelve —( hear)—he spent a large income among them ; he endeavoured to do good to all around hhn , and set an example to all landlords in Ireland . , ( Cheers ;) he was assisted by a
lady—( loud cheers)—whose charities were unostentatious but most libera ] , and such was the nobleman who was said to be " an alien in the land of . his fathers . " The Marquis of Waterford was not afraid to go out at all hours—he required no Coercion Bill to protect him . ( Loud cheers , particularly from the Irish members . ) He only wished for protection from anonymous assailants , who either knew nothing of his character , or entirely misunderstood it . ( Cheers . ) Lord Inoestre corroborated the statement of Major Beresford , and spoke in high turms of the conduct ef the Marquis of Waterford towards the tenantry .
Mr . J . O'Connell expressed his gratification at hearing the statement of Major Beresford . lie bad heard individuals in Ireland , the most opposed in politics to the noble Marquis , express a wish that there were many landlords in Ireland like him . lie had likewise heard that the burning of the Marquis ' .-stables was the act of a refractory servant * and had been much lamented b y all the peasantry on libestates . ^ He then expressed his great sorrow at having given additional notoriety to a charge which
he now believed to be without any foundation . Mr . O'Co . well bore willing testimony to the merits of the Marquis of Waterford as a readout landlord , and also to the charitable disposition of his must excellent lady the marchioness . He was one of the bast landlords in Ireland , and was as safe in anv pari of that country as he would be in that house . Alluding to the remarks which Major Beresford had made upon the conduct of the press , he observed that he was not inclined to concur in them . He had himself been attacked for similar , alleged misconduct to his
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SMRieuitnanjibilcelahd ^ frlle nnd orattod . tnat toe ^!^ -aiB $ ^^^ prevailed m ^ called'itlie . attcntiohlof the ' fight hijlSr > therHonje ; § £ , cretar / $# 8 uch' « flidrii ^^^ bavonet . appeared toj ; veceive ^ the statement . ' wjtKian ; incre ' d ^ ons smile ^ but'nc had veasonitd . beiieyethivt sirtce . tJieir the 4 right , lion .: baronefcconsidei'ed the matter feibe ' rmore- serious ; It had ^ been inquired into by the local magistrates , who , ; deemed it , indispensable that ; some renledy ^ shouldibe , applied , and un ^ erthese civcumstances he' wished to . know from th ' eriglith ^ duce a . cla ' uie ihto . 'thfe Irish Coevcioiv'BiU providing for the protectioifcpf . life and ' the prevention of-assassiriation irSheffiel *? - •* L m ^ ¦ ' ¦ = *« ; -W
^ ; SiryJ ^ GEASuMadmitteirtbe * cornecthesr of the staVemeli |; a ^ t |( esame tim ' e ,, . he ' : w ^ BSuh'ds'to say that Shemeld ' Wanhe only "towtfln ^ England ivhere crimes ojFthisiffeicriptioh ^ were committed ; arid wi th " respectiftg ShorJRblcl , he couhj ^ alsostate ^ ith satisfa c- tiotfthat the , njayor and cpmraoh * ' couhcil , wbo were cho ' asK Mder atyB & ni of n ^ avgely-distrfljtited suffrage in ^ t ' city . ' j l /^^ mres ^ ondedNS'ith ^^ t ^^^ ahd ' mahlfested'ihepbMiearne ^ sobs ^ iiilty of tnai terrible ^ offehbe should- '' be ' Drought . td ^ jnstjee ; ( ffe ' af , ? H ' eai ?)*'; - Tlie repre ^ eritatives' of Sheffielaj ^ liad * ^^ communicated fwith ¦ » thej i GOvefhjneni 7 ? a ^ d it | : appfeaHd " vthaV- all -the riiOst . ; revpctable inhabitants ; df tlie town ' concurred in th ^ - 'desire that' the , ' perpetrators-of this crime might be discovered- arid brought to ' punishment . The . working classes also , understanding that if tbis crime were not "put" an . end to the trade of
Sheffield " must be destroyed , partook in the desire that the perpetrators of " this infamous offence might be brought to justice . ( Hear . ihear . ) : A large reT wardffor the discovery of the . offenders ; had been offei-e'd , and Government liad ; instituted : such pror ceedings as they thought were calculated to bring to justice the guilty parties , lie certainly was not prepared to include Sheffield in the Irish bill , but he . would sayi that if the lawtas it stood should be . fouiid inadequate td- putjan ^ nd ^ , ^^ e ^ tra tio ^^ pffe ^ oe , 'and . a ^ pditipna ] "legai ;' me ^ necessary-Jor its prevention , he . should not hesitate , under his ' bfficlal responsibility , to pwpose such meaauretotl \« : nouae . 4 ( ileaTiihcav . ) . , * ...,:.: r . ^ 'Messi-s . rPARkEB ' . and WiAnn , ; the , Borough ; members , corroborated the ^ remarks of the Home iiSfcrs tary as "to the ' -feeling of the inhabitants ont ' iieVrSubjetstii ^ : ; -- ^!^ : k ? ii & ni .: s . l ? . v ' . ^ -, . ; , ; -j :-.--.: «!
; : w , ^ , ; ,.. ; f }" « - J ^ . ,-i ,-,,-.-.: f , K ^ , i *; ,. i-: ¦ , » .,, „ , * # P ROTECTION OFs LIFE IN ^ IREMND BILL . ¦ . ¦> E ! ,, ' - ; :.. !!; ^ J .- - ' ,. i ; -. i-fiji- ' ¦ ¦»¦ : ; ¦ W * j } £ - ~; ww 5 ' . oHi-: l ¦ ,, ' iv :-• sThe order of the day was thent : read ,. 'andthe adjourned- 'debateivras ' resumed . vv' . 'fvisiaJi-rt ^ j ' . ' -Vi : ; -.-,-•; Mr ciM ! OARTflT ;; decIai ' ed ^ is ^ intento ^ pfcgiyiug . every opppdition-toUhis bill « which , iihtppiiit . o ,, means , was ; iH . ad | ipfcd . to . the end which it jiadibr jyiewi' ^ ejiihep ^ entered v ihto ' ofithe ^ Engli i h-jConqugst j ^ of ; explainin ' g the so ^; ce' | pf ^ theyal ^ 'arian out ^ -ageJ ; w ; hK 3 h . ; afflipted : ; and ^ ismceuy ^ called upon Sir R . ' v £ e ° el ! to . do ^ ; just ^ , loit ^ p ^ uli ^ liipn ^ ylp ^ if hj . did ; not ^' he ^ which ; he ; had called a . ' gl % ' at ; , dimculty ^ Jvbuld ^
becom | , an imp . ossibility . for his administration , ' ; Upon tiinlt Irish roeli Administration' after Administration had gone to pieces—each in its turn had left its sting in the Irish mind ; aninwaque in vulnwc pommt . ( llear . ) If they wished to govern Ireland , they must go rightly to wsrk . He called upon them to look to that country , not as a battle field in which adverse parties were to contend for preeminence , , but to look upon it as a portion of this great empire—a portion on whose success must dcpend the well-being of the whole . ( Cheers . ) They had tried coercion—they had from time to time exhausted all the resources of force and penal legislation . Had they ever tried simple justice ? ' ( Cheers . ) Even iti this , the eleventh hour , let them not be afraid to retrace their steps—be not ashamed to turn
Iran injustice to justice . He had entered tnat house unconnected with either of the great parties that governed it , —with neither Whig nor Tory had he any ties . ' He belonged to an ancient race whom all those parties had in turn persecuted and despised . ( Hear , hear . ) When they entered Ireland , they found them powerful , and in the exercise of authority . After a series of conquests , continued throughout ' centuries , they succeeded in putting them down ; and now , after the lapse of 200 years , he , one of their descendants , had , forthe first time , the privilege of holding a aea tin the great council ofthe nation , and telling them what were the feelings and sentiments which he entertained in reference to the country of his birth . ( Hear , hear . ) He begged to say to the right hon . baronet at the head of the government that he had- witnessed with great admiration the firmness and decision with which , on another question , he had shaken himself clean from all parties . ( Hear . ) lie had observed with satisfaction that when
the great commercial interests of this country were at stake , he had disregarded all those considerations which swayed and controlled ordinary minds ; he had disregarded them to obtain what appeared So him to bo a great national good , and he had shown wisdom and ability in his projects of redress ; projects which , in his opinion , were entitled to the approbation of the country . ( Cheers . ) Now , he called upon the right hon . baronet to exhibit the same wisdom and firmness in dealing with the , affairs of Ireland ; he asked him not to follow in the traces of others ; he called not upon him to tread in their fsotsteps or adopt their half measures ; but let him take the , same comprehensive view ot Irish grievances which ho had done of commercial poliev . ( Cheers . ) Let him be his own example , rod , having supplied the ! wants of commerce , let him turn to the social andjpolitical evils of Ireland , and there envsiate himsell . ( Loud Cheering . ) Mr . Baillie supported the bill .
Colonel Vbrkxr defended the landlords of Ireland from the imputations made against khum . The course he would adopt towards Ireland was . very different from that recommended by Her Majesty's Ministers . He would put down with a strong hand agitation and agitators , and every species of association which kept the people discontented and [ disunited . IIo would also put an end to all miscalled conciliation and to all uncalled for conciliation ; for he had observed that every concession to the repeal party had been attended by fresh insults to and by fresh demands from the Imperial Parliament .
Mr . Haw . es , after observing that little good had hitherto been derived from the strong and vigorous measures which Colonel Veraor and his party had recommended for the Government of Ireland , contended that nothing could justify this bill except a pressing and overwhelming necessity , He showed that tlie undetected crimes cunmitted in Ireland wore lower now than they had been iu former times . There had been a decrease of 23 per cent in the amount of murders committed , and of 53 } per cent , in the amount ofthe attempts at murder in 1 S 45 , as compared with the year 184-1 . Trouble and discontent had tracked every coercion bill which had been
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presented to Parliament from the first down to the present hour , and would continue to track them so long as such miserable instruments were employed for Government . Sir R . Pkkl , after giving a history of the progress of the'bill , contended that the Government had . no alternative but to proceed with this , preliminary stage . As to the injurious surmises that Government had interposed this measure for the purpose of getting rid of their measure on the Corn Laws , it was enough for hiw . tp say at present that the . lapse of time , and many Intervening events , had confirmed the impressions ow which he had originally proposed the finsl and permanentadjustment of the corn laws . Events had proved to him that the restrictions , which he once thought to . }) e only impolitic , were now
absolutely nnjust j aM ' his colleagues and himself ( Were fully prepared to certify by any public act the sincerity of their convictions on tlwtt point . He then proceeded to an explanation of the reasons which had induced the Government to > propose a measure of this harsh character towards Ireland . Ithad been stated that the Government , before-ifc called on the house to assent to suchameasure , was- bound , to establish fhrec facts—first , that from the extent , frequency , and nature of the arimes , a necessity for a change in the law existed—secondly , that all the powers of the existing law had been exerei . idl and exhausted—and thirdly , that there was a rational hope that the par . ticulai ' . meaaure , at variance , as it was with the-.. o « d | - nary principles of law ,-would be effectual for its object .
^^ Inia , ; 8 peeeh ^ , of greayength ; . . jthe right hon .. barbriet addressed himself successively to prove these proppsitions , arid justifiedrtlio J > . 1 U aslie-yen , more necessary ; f 4 rit & e 7 prott ^^ ^ li ^^^ a j ^^ t ^^ £ kMfled g 6 $ !^ ' ^ W Mi ^^ i ^^ w ^^ Hw ^ ^ fe sufficient ; ^^ stheiepr ^ M . ioS ^^^ ;^ mn ^ Cits * P * we ^^^ ( dispense Iwit & thc ^ e & i ^ It would / b * 0 elu « iye ; rfi ( t p ^ opo & te { tbis - measure ^ as / 4 panacea ; fortthe : d , iso ' r . ^ rsi ; a ^ , and ! heithei « fdre ; -at ; ioh
lUnniitigatedMeyiUand . > Wii ^ Pd ^ fip . 4 h ' e | n « r ^ 8 Tr ifu ^ ed to . discuss , on the ^ re iseh ( i-o ' ceasi 6 h , the ; ranoiis . . ineasureSiWWchjha dib ^ " reiiet ^ oMreland , forjeachlol ;^ ^\& uaa 6 n ..- % & nd . aftev ^ 9 xiim ^ 6 { i t & a . latradaeiCoa oi ' tda jtagtiM /• bar / . aiv AtvtQ . i . lTielavvd , swid thtt " , dvfivcuU , y of . introducin ^' a . ' . welKdigcsteda'Laiidlord . ' and . Tenant ' s Dill , ' ¦ , he pror , ceededi to . lecture tUeilriahJiudlo . rdspd'Jmeinberii ; , bethought that . th . ev ^ rbKed ^ Q ' o ^ assistahce j . n £ ; tim ; : ; c ^^ idpohjtEemselyes ; and- that ; it wag in their power to ; domove good for -Ireland by their own exertions than any Government . iCouJd do for them . If they , would only meet . together . aiid consider , the condition , of ' theifccbuntry , / the obligations nf property , ' and ; tiie , consequences of a , harsh ; exercise of . the .. powers . which , property gave , them , t ! iey might with a little liberality '
and forbearance , wufer inestimable blessings on tlu-ir . 'country . ' .. He . ealled upon . thcmto foUow , the example ofjLord G .. Hill , wiibvhiid . cohverted ^^ ; 1 . 8 , 0 n p ";" aore ¥ . ofj waste laud intoia valuable , prpuerty , . and why , . by a constant attention to his , duties as a landlord ,. had eohciliated to , himself the . gpod-will dt \ ihp'ic \ yho " st 6 od to him in the relation of tenants . By such conduct they w 6 uld ; , draw : tog § ther ; the relations ; -of . ricn | and poor , and would eiisiip ^ confidence ; intheimpartfal administration 6 ! ju 3 ti ( ej' \ jjhich could . not he-accomplished by anyidirectr ^ fi ' ojjfeof . legislation !; ' , There were oblieations , on . property which -laws could'hot iustilo £ controj ji > ut ; W ^ order and maintenance of society . ^; - ^ ' t ^ j Mr . . WysK . protfested against thisi measure , because it would neither redress the grievances nor repress the crimes of Ireland / Heyasaorry to find that t | ie Government was still determined to give " nothing but coercive measures to Ireland '; ' ''"' " ';' v- ' 'V
After a speech from Cbf . ' Conollt in suppbrtj and one from Mr . Rich against the Bill ; on the motion of Mr . P : Somers the debate was adjourned to -Thuradaynext : ! : > - ' ¦ ' The other orders of the day were then disposedof , and the house adjourned atone o ' clock . : "
HOUSE OF LOUDS .-TDESDAT , Apkil ' 28 . ;^ ' The house met at live o ' clock . - ,. •;; , ' Si ' * .-i " ; The Earl Fitziviiiiain moved for a return ! v of ,-the bills and sstiiiiates of the ^ several railways fqj . whioh petitions had been presented during the present , sefe sion . oll ^ c ! iament ,.. di ^ ingu . ishingth * tliosc for which the bills haoV jbeen withdrawn or rejected , from ihose . which were still pending in the other . House of . Parliiiiiient ., ; , '; \ ; v ; . The return ' was ordered .. , . - .. ' . t . ; : ' .. ' . '¦ . ' . '' . ; Lord : MoxTEAG £ E , moyed ' for , ^ return !; of ^ allfthe notices- rwhicli ^ Jiad > bee 3 if ihsertecl-iMih ^ fimdoti \ Gasiim ^ 0 ^ a ] ii \ MM \ s deposited atthhPrivatte : Bi 11- Office , with tlie'am 6 UHt ? of capital which the parties proposed to raise , an * d 'to . borrow '; = and also of shares which were intended tb-beussued to raise that amount of capital . ' ' ¦ : ¦ ..- > . , ;¦ . ¦ ¦ I Before the ^ motion- could be " put from the Woolsacki ; ---- >* v « - ; -. " !; . 'i . ¦ ' - ¦ ::-.- :. ' - ; : & . ;;; i - -,. ¦
•' .- ioi-d . ' Oampbeli , rose arid proceeded to address their lordships . 'He was stopped by . ¦ m-.. : ; The Eord Chancellor , who said—Will you allow me to putithe question ?•; r ., ; f . ¦ ,, ¦¦ -, - - _ ,-. r ^ .: .. ; . . /¦;' Lord CAMrDEHi—L"am going ito ; speakiitd , the motion . ¦ . - ¦¦ •;¦¦ .. > ; ¦ ¦ ¦ . > -.- ' . t .-. ^ . . . a . ,-,- ; - •;' : '• ' . - ¦ f , The Lord . CnAjfCEiLOK-r-But there . is the . ; motion which the-hoble . lord ( Monteagle ) has in , his . hands which has td be puti' , *! tax , ¦ ..- ;; ; -. ¦ . -. ' . m' ; I : The question-having . been . put , i v . -, \> ¦ , --ir-Cr ; -.-..- % . i Lord ! CAMPBELLWlIenceforward we are to ; . look to the Woolsack for- order . . We . usually jog on very well , but I observe that the most irregular quarter in the house is generally theiWoolsack . The Lord Cjmiscellob—My lords , I rise to order . I have no more authority in this house than any other individual in it . We are dissimilar in our
constitution to the House of Commons . I have no authority to call noble lords to order ; but if I had that authority I should every day have to call the noble and learned lord to order . Lord CAMr-mai/—I know that the noble and learned lord has not the authority to call order from the Woolsack ; but he has at least the power of abstaining from causing disorder , and after this I must repeat that the most disorderly quarter of this house is thst which is nearest the Woolsack . After this noble and learned encounter of wits , the returns moved for were ordered . The Earl of Hipos communicated to the house two messages from her Majesty , recommending to their lordships to concur in such measures as should be proposed to confer on Viscount Hardingcand Lord Gongh , and their two . next surviving heirs male , respectively , some siynal marks of favour in reward for their late distinguished services .
On the motion of the Earl of Daliiousie , the Railway Companies' Dissolution Bill was read a second time . Several other bills were forwarded a stage , and toe house adjourned . HOUSE OF COMiMONS . —ToEsi > AY , Aran , 28 . The Speaker took the chair at the usual hour .
BltlDt'ORT ELECTION . The Brldport election return was amended , and Mr . John Romilly took his seat in place of Mr . B . Cochrane . . MESSAGE FROM HER MAJESTY . — VISCOUNT HARDINGE AND LOSD ' GOUGH . Sir R . Fesl delivered-two messages from the Queen , recommending the house to take measures to bestow on Viscount Ilardioge and Lord Gough , and their two next succeeding heirs male , respectively , some signal mark of her royal favour . The messages were ordered to be taken into consideration on Monday next .
CONTEMPT OF THE HOUSE . Mr . Hknley , chairman of the railway committee , Group XL , brought up a report from that committee . It stated that the committee , Group XL , had met that day , at ten o ' clock , that W . Smith O'Brien , Esq . was not present , and did not attend within one hour from the time appointed for the meeting of the committee . Mr . EsTcouni moved , that the clerk should read the report of the committee . The report ( as above ) having been read , The Speaker then called the name oi Mr . W Smith O'Brien .
Mr . S . O'Brien rose and said , that he supposed that the object of the Speaker in calling upon him , was to afford him the opportunity , If lie thought lit , of explaining to the house the reasons for his nonattendance at the committee . He felt deeply obliged to the Speaker and to the house , for having ' afforded him that opportunity . But having already stated his views fully , and , he might add , finally , in the correspondence he had had with tlie chairman ofthe Committee of Selection , he was not desirous of adding anything to , and he was not readv to withdraw anything from , what he had already said .
Mr . liSTcouRT , as chairman , of tlie Committee ol Selection , narrated the cir ' cumstaneca of Mr . O ' Bvien ' a having been nominated , in accordance , with the resolution » f the 12 th of February , to servo on the railway committee in Group XL , and of the hon . member's refusal by letter to serve thereon , on the ground that , as an Irish member , he was not bound to attend to any business not strictly Irish . Mr ,
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Estcourt pointed ost Mr . 5 'Conilelt Shu olkr frlMU members serving on railway committees , to wow » 'that'thVohJQetib'tf ' w ^^^ iu consequence of . his acting upon ^ that det ^ ttUiftgj turn , -he waspibw compelled to move a-. rcsdlutidn ,. O TT which the house would be called uoon to * express Stai opinion ofthe conduct of ' , one of ' its ' own , members .. He concluded by mbvihtr , as he repeatvd . ^ M ff ^ nam , that W . S . O'Biien , Esq . ; " having aisqbeye | r the order of the house by refusing tn attend the eom ^ - mittee on which he was summoned , had been guilty *" of a contempt of the house . . " -- : y . ' - ¦ '¦;¦ ' *'" Mr . O'CoNNtLL said there were two grounds ' on , which the house ought to pause before ' 'it ' assented tit ? this motion . The first was the necessity of cons !* - dering how far the Act of Union , gave tlie- house " power . to erifoi ce the process of committal upon Irish '' membei-s . No such power was given by the ' commonf '' Jsw ; , and if the jurisdiction . ; werenotfonniddd oh ther '' common law , it could not be founded' on ike statute "
law ; for it was not yiven by the Act of U » ion , ihe ' second ground was the necessity of considering * the urisdiction of the Committee of Selection . ; Up'to * I the 12 th of February la » t there was no stringeat rvfie ' for the compulsory attendance oi members ; or * - c-un- ^ raittees , it was perfectly volimtaiy : arid thence- . arose -the question whether you could delegate to asdm- ' mjitee the power possessed by the house of pim '? hin ? a contempt of its orJ . ers by imprisonme-fit . Ther ? was a statutable power to compel theatten ** anceo <' hon . members upon the house ; hue no sum power to compel tlunr - ' attendance oa committees ' - " Mr . S , O'Brien had been guilty of nothing but a * - breach oS an order ofa-secondary jurisdiction arising ? . ' outof another jurisdiction rcewitly created bythef-: hoiise . fhere wasncJhing but courtesy in the terms oniisJettez ^ and no wsih to ceniemn the atithorityr of the house-.
The ATToassv-GKNEnAL said- that the question before the house had asstmied a very serious character , in consectiwnee of the consideratisna with which .. Mr , O'Connell- had connested It- for the house ; . wa » , now called upoB ' . So consider not merely whether ilr ., S . O'lkien had refused ' obedience to itsoiders- . out ' . $ . whether . there ^ va 9 a , portion-. of . its . members iiidspendentof its control , who cotild . refuse a ttcndanee tipoi > all eommitteW not connected with the country ''' to which they beloEged ., ' He csiild : hot . uhderstapdP ^ . the objection which . Afr . 10 ' Cohaell ; Ki > d ' . % iindi ; U ' ' 6 ^' / the "Mi ^ i mqj ^ y ^^^^^^ i ^ f ^ ai Unipnj : v it ; w ^ , enactid"iliat '' tSe ^ < preseqte ^ ' : m ^ one ^ pfi » iam ^^ n ^ i'ia 1 " Pflrlinmp '» ft . hf iRTflMt ^ 'Rrita ¦ irfl » " ndUrAT * nS . ? v' ^ 'S ''*
i . % pprop ^| s ! c % g ^ j ^ vthS ne msm ^^^ mi ^^ im ^ ^¦ iffij >| ji ^ - ^ taf ^ ffi | jp ^ 'EveittlJough ^ ucn . ^^ itlie ^ ActdfrlfJn'ib . ^ , Co minon *;^!^ b ^^^ fhi ^^ it 6 ry 6 n ' all' ' iti ; in ^ bera 7 'f &* r' 4 frti !^ . mustbeSstbp ^ fbfaltepuWic ^^ uslncS ^^ jjitHity -: ak ia ^ e ^ resentaiiyevnMe ^ Mi :.-0 * Corinelihad ? edmp . laiijedthatitijeipowerij ' igiyetk . ¥ o ^ ic ! Go ! M gerit ^ it ; mi » litjbe « b ; butVth ^ ; hatlfgivch . theC ; cbmmi £ tee tliese , powers ; , auditJiao %
> beeh'h' 6 ns'derej ^ . that :-unli > s 8 >'* mese-ifttri wetB comvft \ itMio ivthe htjttae wmld ui -. t ; . \) evtorut .. i tf \ ft mcvcaicdvloiu ^ ot ' . idity eust uosti . fc . ji' (<' .,, & . .. t W ? . m \\^\ kl & $ \\ % t ^^ ¦ w lrrob'he ' ~ uati ^ stead of racuShg himself , had yelevrecl to . ^ he- ^ ofjiv / r » wpoiKlence }; aud . lmd-: ; Khn-ie '( . l ; rin :, his ; v lie wi \ b afiviief , tUeij , tMt ' tlie iuHwc had w jith ' er ,, course : to pursue save that : rccmiimtf ! deds : by ' -, Mr .: '; l >'? t- oww Th * huu ^ e tould . uot ai \ 0 T *' . its authppty - ( to b . defi did Jthis manner , and ; | j ) . « s ) t ,.. vindioato , ifo - * . even'ltiH ueh it were compelltd-to rcsnrt to those . ex- ? ' - . - ¦ romem asuiVs against Mr ; is . O'Sr ien which .. must . foliowtheresolutionthen before it . . _ , ....,. ; , . .... ; Mr . ' Hoc ni ; ' ; regretted __ . tb . at it ^ l ) uu , l < U ' ae $$$$$ & tivintroduce a resolution " of 'thin ,-hind r m tlfepreseBtr ^
monietit ; - foV' he foresaw that the ultimate result of- , it-would ;* be ito c 6 mpet ( thoser . Irish _^ em ' ^ is s ) yh _ g _ agreed in the propriety ; of Mr ^ l ^^_^ 8 ' 9 r | f ^ 0 ;^ tak ^» measures ^ vhich . woul . dimpede ^ thoordinarv siness . ol :- Parliament . ' : H ^_ r ^ etjted ^ i % ttie : im * 6 io ^ because , if , th ' elresOlutibh were ipeweyvKWiPi . there would arise in the minds pfythet people of Ireland , whovdid not understand > the techBicalities o ^ tjie . ; house , an .. impression that ' tbere wM ^ iSysferaiol &^ pevaecutiog ; about to be .. enfoVceS ' -iftg ^ B ^^^ ' ^ Ss : O ' dirienton ' acc ' ount of the courseI' ^ icftTIie deemetl-v ; it'itOj b ^ W . duty to puTsue ^ in'Ifek Mt ., : S . Q'Brieh . away Trom' the ' . discusWCbf'the '; ' C CoJBrcion'Sill , ' the houseT ^ 6 u ^ ld ; ' exa ^ erate '; t 6 theF utmost " the ' people of Ireland ; ., '"„ •'""'• •¦ * ¦ ¦¦ - ¦ Mir . . Waubuutoi- obaei'vedtlmtj if'tue-pvesentmo ^*
-iio ' n ' involved nothing more tlian . the highestdisffi | &^ probation ofthe conduct bf'Mv : ' S : QJ : BKeMJMp should most gladly , concur in it , ; but the i ^^ ffideSi ^ tionVliich the house ' would have to ' cb ' nswe ^^ fter' ' assenting to tlds-niotidh ;' would be— - '' --Shail'W'lseri'dr . Mr . S . O'Brien to the Tower ? " Hedidnotsee any force in Mr . O'Connoll ' s argument .,: lie admitted that the House of- Commons had the power to commit Mr . O'Brien ; but he doubted the wisdom , of exercising it , far he did not know how many other foolish members might court the very , uneviable notoriety of being committed to the Tower-. . He concluded by moving a § an amendment . tlmi jMjj ^ ; S ; P' ^ nenpbaving stated special- grouhdaon whicltv ' he wisfled to be exempted from attending on private
committees , should in future be exempted from such , attendance , and that it . be an . instruction . to the > , Committee of . Seloction to report to . the ; houseiW names ofCT all ; members iurfuture claijnih ^ t , 0 : ; f ^ e ;; exempt Iromf such " attendance , and 'the ¦ grounds da . > vhich tlj ' ey claimed such exemption . Mi-.-BiiOTHMnrox seconded the amendment . Upon / the ' amendment boing read by the Spjsakbrj ; . Mri'fcVlCbNsxLL said , thafche begged ; to . differ , with the Hon : Gentleman who had usedthe epithefe foolish , with regard to the conduct of the hon- member for Limerick . He thought that'in ' steaxL ' . of actrt ing foolishly , it would be found that the Irish , people , considered hfiu to have been actingA > v . jthr " a =-vae ' wtc >; do his duty to Ireland . ^ It was-hisTmlsfortunerto ' . j be a member , of . a ); committee ,: for the last ¦ threet weeks , and probably for two months to come . ( Hear ,,
hear . ) ' He thought he mtylit take credit to him « s ; self for having endeavoured to attend punctually , to the business . ( Hear , hear . ) But he ; did not , consider that the House had any right tosrequire him . tox serve on that committee : The . reason for , his ; notic offering any apposition ^ to that oi-dor . -. » was . ; thathet should be unable to give his aid in opposing the passing ofthe Coercion < Bill ; while in the . custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms . ( Laughter . ) It . was lor . thafc reason alone that he regretted the honourable mum- , ber for Limerick acting as he had done . He thought , the honourable member for Limerick was entitled to some consideration , when it was considered that he was acting from strong convictions .. The House ' could not do bettez-, in his opinion , than ; adopt thesuggestion of the honourable gentleman who-had ; moved the amendment .
Mr . BnoiiiEnroN observed thai Mr ; S .. O'Brien wanted to be made a martyr of , and he was not disposed to elevate him in that honour . After an observation from M * . O'Gonnell totheeffect that , if Mr . 5 . O'Brien had * gone to , Ireland , the house would not have found it very , safe to . bring him to England on this quarrel ,, and a few words , from Sir G . Grey in support of . the original motion , Sir R . Peel said ho was ve ? y . much , surprised to hear any individual assert that the original resolution arose out ot a spirit of hostility against Mr . S _ O'Brien . He believed that it was-a matter , of general regret that this point had betn . raised , but with , the precedent established last sessiwn . iu the oaso . « f Mr . 1 J . Eseott ; whi'so objeutioiU ) . to-. sur . viisg on i ' . e . mimittee on a private bill laid . bevu o ,, erruleii h . v tiie house , he did not see how the nu )' . i ! . J ! ij ! -. of it . touid be avoided , or how it . couhi be imputed to
hostility to Mr . S . O'Brien . Ho . tSd not see any other course which the- house could adopt save that of affirming the resolution of Mr-. Estcourt . He could not assent to tlie amendment ; of . Air . W . ar burton , for it was a way of evading the difficulty of the case , if there was 3 . diiiieulty ^ hnrdlj worthy of his long experience in parliament . In . all questions of this kind he only sought to maintain the character ofthe house as the popular braneh ofthe Legislature . He then enforced SSie argument ef the ., Attorney-. General in support » f the pow « r of . the House ol ! Commons to . commit Isish members , for . ' contempt , and insisted that though not given by the Act of : HJnion it was inherent in tUo house fsom its very composition . It might be thivi-. Mr . Sk O'Brien wished to be a martyr , and had therefore , challenged , the existence of this power ; but . as he bad challenged it , the house must vindicate it , and he . should theretbrd support , the original resolution . '
Mr . II . GnitTAN am \ Mr . C . Powsll . defended tlte > course » dopt 8 < l by Mr . O'Brien .. ; Mr . IIumk , condemned it . , and advised Mr . O'Ertcn . to submit . Sir J . Wiidb in a lengthy speech controverted thsjt views of Mr . CConnell as to the Act of Union . There was one common , feeling of regret that the house had been obliged to embark in this question , and that feeling was aggravated , because it was connected with an , Irish member ; and might therefore be misrepresented . The power of the house over Irish members was as complete as the intora-ts of IreJaad required that it should be , and as Parliamentary law could render it . Mr . S . O'Brien might tad far popularity against Mr . O'Connell by seeking to be
made a martyr of : but it appeared to him that nothing but a morbid love of notoriety could have induced him to take his present course . The housa ought not . to shrink from asserting its authority in a . case wuui' 6 it had been so flagrantiv denied . Mr . D'Iskaeu argued that as ' Mr . O'Brien lvul not , strictly speaking , a formal notice of the motion made on Monday . for his attendance in the committee , and as ho might possibly petition the house to bo allowed to be heard . by counsel at the bar , it would be well to pause before doing anything unjust , orthat might bo impugned on the "round of informality . This compulsory attendance on railway committees was a violation of the rules of the house , adopted upon an apprehension of circumstances that had not turned out to be well-founded , and it waa L- lbe » iinued to the E fl kt fagt . ]
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tenantry , Hi ^ he same paper jj and his reply , to'it hat been by printing the charge against him in the most public manner . The universal press of Ireland had taken part with him . and his justification had been most complete . ' , We ought not . to take part against the press-on such subjects ; for the press was the only defender of the poorest of the poor . Mr . P . Scropb was cenvinced , from all he had heard , that the Marquis of Waterford was a most excellent landlord ; but he contended that Parliament-was not justified in maintaining a system oi law which permitted the landlord to turn out any number of nistenantry at the risk of exposing ' . them to absolute starvation . The persons-who had been ejected on the Marquis of Waterford ' s estate , although , it . appeared ' that ,, in strictness , they were n ot his tenant ^ had . yet occupied houses as tenants on . lm property '; and by the neglect of the noble
marquis in not preventing the system of subletting , those individuals were by chance brought under his protection .- jit certainly Appeared' rather a harsh measure , to eject so many-of these- persons at once , without some more ample means than the £ 2 or £ 3 wfeieli were given them to remove . It had been stated that they quitted their houses willingly ; but he ( Mr . Scrope ) entertained some doubt on that subject . ! ' It must be remembered that the money offered tliem would , in . the . present destitution of many of those persons , be regarded as a great boon ; and that they were aware ,, if . they evinced [ any , hesitation in quittingtheirihouses , that notices of ejectnient would be serve'd ' &^& heja ^ W ^ be c 6 mpelfcd toVfluitPwithout receiving any bonus . He hoped the house .. would-draw a moral from the ., > Hj .. ' f Im . , ¦ ! . ' i * . , vu ,, *;« , v j . ' I ' fTTliKyi ^ r ^ EVJ /^ . ifjW'irrt-i-., * - casea ^ his nature wfi | ch haM ifiera ^ dJthaTM
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Northern Star (1837-1852), May 2, 1846, page 1, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns2_02051846/page/1/
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