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tamuABY frX 1847. THE NORTHERN STAR. 7
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Tamuaby Frx 1847. The Northern Star. 7
tamuABY frX 1847 . THE NORTHERN STAR . 7
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REVELATIONS OF AUSTRIA . * KO . V . fAsreiAs regards finance and taxation M . Kouhraldewicz Ills US Us US that" the Austrian Kaisers only differ from a hi &« highwayman in leaving life to their subjects Iter lifter having plundered them ; because , not fearing , to or & c ordinary rogues , to be seized and brought to trial , they , hey , besides , preserve the lives of their victims to ragmeagment their treasures . " Their favourite scriptural uiamoiamandis "Give unto the Kaiser that which is laiseiaiserV * { Gelt dew Kaiser was da Kaiser ' s ist . ) The fc'he following extract exhibits the sources of AUiTBUX REVEXUG : Isilj lstly , Direct taxation ; 2 ndly , Indirect taxation ; SnYiv , Aoy alloy alts * called Regalia : 4 th ! y , Domaines ; Stbljr , Mono-< ioficSrfuies ,
By By direct taxation in Austria is understood ( a ) the [ andeanded tax of houses and lands ; lb ) the Djminical , or iSeiinitflimorial tax . Sic Since ISIS the land tax is established according to the wgisftgister ot estates , taken in the reigu of Joseph II , in LLTS 7 , LIST , and verified in 1817 . * * * * Tfc The produce of the soilis taxed according to the prices cof I ' bf K 96 , because corn was dearer then ; firstly , on account < of tbf the war carried on against the French republic ; ssecoiseondly , because there was more money in Austria aud iin Gin G allicia than then iu 1 SU or at the present | period . ] Bef oBef are tbe French revolution , paper money was unknown , : and and the churches , coavtnts , and parishes were not i quitquite pillaged . T The seigniorial tax is based on the census and declaratloctlob of 1770 aud 1770 . I Th » rate of the land tax is from eight to twelve per oeooeot .
1 1 ha free lands and those subject to forced labour , or tltb tithe , or church rates , pay equally this tax without any ill deduction ia valuing the net produce . ' The rate of seigniorial taxation , uuJer different cai names , vai its between thirty and forty per cent , without oot counting tbe expenses of dominical jarwdiction , which mi makes it amount to more than 70 . # » Under the head of direct taxation is understood : Istlj , th Ihe custom houses which are established on tbe Prussian , , Bi Bos . ian , Polish , and Hungarian frontiers . 2 adiy , the Capitation tax , Ifop / jlfur ) aYl persons from ti the age of fit ' tesn until seventy-five pay yearly thirty ki krautzers . idly , A tax ii paid on all that is eataa , drank , ot b burnt . tthly , The Jewish tax (} udenste * r ) to which the Jews a alone are subject , is raised on the meat and candles—and c ou the sabbath .
I remember , for instance , that * goose which is sold in Gallicia for fifteen kreutzers pay as Jewish tax tea
kreutzen . MM ? , Class tax { klaueateutr ) . To this tax ate Subjxt all who toilon a trade , who possess mills or manufacturers , or follow any branch , of industry . All mas . ten , professors , artists farmers , and workmen , who gain annually above one hundred and twenty florins , ( twelve pounds ) pay yearly fiom two and a half to forty per cent : for instance , tbepersen earning one hundred aud twenty Sariis two aud a half per cent ., he who earns four fianiired florins pays five per cent , and in the same » : i <> up to sixt # en thousand florins yearly , which pays ferry per cent .
Gtaly , The house tax , which , pays in the villages at the arte of forty Vreutrers per cottage , and in the towns acwralng to the rent ; for this end every landlord is obliged to make a written contract with his tenant on stamped paper and to present it to the Burgomaster to be registered . The lodgings of the landlord ate taxed as if be was tenant—every erosion of this law is punished by a Sat of twenty times the annual rent : 7 t ! ily , Tolls on roais , aqueducts , and bridges . Every two leagues there is a wooden turnpike , and a farmer ' s cottage across the road . All roads leading to and from towr s are furnished with harriers , and payment must be Dade both on entering and leaving . At Leopol a drive outside the harries , in carriage drawn by two horses , costs twenty kreutzers , and there is neither bridge nor aqueduct to cross . Sth , Military quartering tax , { UMtar-qiKirtier $ dd ) is lerielon all cottages and houses .
Royal taxes , ( Regalia ) , in this category enter— lstly , Stamps . All documents proving an obligation contracted or acquitted . All petitions or tribunals , offices , magistrate' , funct ' nnaries , or the Kaiser , must be writun on stamped paper . Tbe stamps for documents is from three kreutztrs to cue Lundred florins , according to their value , from two Sarins up to one hundred thousand and above . 2 dly por tage of letters . The conveyance of letters costs tbe government nothing ; tbe postmasters have charged themselves with it gratis , iu consideration of the exclusive privilege which they possess of cenvejing travellers and of being paid according to tbe privileged tariff , Tbe postmasters are however only allowed to let oat hones without carriages .
• rely , Conferring nobility , titles , dignities , and orders . The title ef fcnight pays fire thousand florins , of count , fifteen thousand , of prince , twenty-fire thousand florins tax , « i thout counting the stamps . 4 thly , Lottery . fcbly , Fines for blows with the stock and others . CSLly , Domains ; all villages , towns , and burghs which at tlit epoch of the Austrian Invasion iu 1772 were free , that i ; to say , had no lords , became the Kaiser ' s property , aai f > nns his domains . Tin Polish inhabitants of these domains are subject to titctd labour , and to all other rates , taxes , and tithes , like the serfs of private individuals . The greater part of those domains are sold to individual . We have already said that it is not permitted the Polish peasantry , subject to forced labour , to ransom themselves . Confiscated property falls to the Kaiser . 7 thiy , Monopolies .
Under this head are understood , lstly , salt , 2 ndly , tobacco , Srdly , gunpowder , 4 thly , diligences , Sthly , printing sad ihe sale of classic bosks , 6 tbly , manufacture of military arms . there are in Gallicia three principal salt works . These of Wieliezka , at the foot of the Carpathian fountains , are the most fruitful and celebrated in the world . Thi salt of these works require no preparation to fit it far consumption . It resembles a frozen sea , the salt of which is nearly as transparent and clear as that of its . Ihe net revenue of the salt works of Wicliezkeamoonts to asoie than six millions of florins s year , the cost of Working to barely one hundred thousand florins . It i * severely forbidden all individuals to use salt or Hlias springs which they may discover on their estates .
moxst . The paper money which the French republic issued from tecessity , and which disappeared with the finan-* al crisis , was introduced into Austria , and only exists were at present through the speculative spirit and intttiab ' . e cupidity of the Kaisers seeking to enrich them-Wves at the expense of their subjects and strangers—a tt ftfii sanctions the punishment of a death against any toe refusing to receive them . lb * Kaiser Francis profitted by the simplicity of his J » pJe , and ordered all his cashiers of circles and his lubuc agents to make payments ouly in paper money , * nd to exchange and buy up , with paper money , all th « SOid atid silver they could . His secret agents spread wemselves for the same end in all the provinces and "road , lie commanded , under penalty of imprisonment aad cmfiscatiou , all churches , towns , parishes , and fab . 'ic bodies to deliver up to him all gold and silver Glides and money , and had them paid in paper money
'Ccording to the exchange as Austrian justice requires . Ihe result of these financial operations was that gold poured into the imperial coSers ; but soon atttrvmrds , notwithstanding the hundreds of millions which those infcfati gaile champion * of despotiim , the French emigrants , were importing , gold and silver became scarce , Sad thi value of paper money began to fall from 1795 till «* # it iras at seven for eight . Jn 1811 a btfehl appeared Fflich i educed the nominal value of paper to twenty per Mat . and in 1810 appedred another befthl which reduced Mo eight per cent .
Tlus eightper cent , was paid in paper money , called ! . , t £ *> wli » ch are at present in circulation , which ! * fK « te the fictitious debt of the Austrian monarchy i ™ awatt an ulterior reduction . j Abifebl of the Kaiser allows his subjects to make ' wpijmeutt in foreign pieces of gold or silnr , and ) " e tressures are obliged to receive them according to Wfisej tariffs j But , on the other hand , the treasurers are ordered , ' moer of dismissal and imprisonment , to pay all '¦ " ] -tts , functionaries , or individuals , only in paper ! aoEtjtr
Austrian silver pieces . The declared object uuislefehi is to preserve the subjects from the frauds aa veiitious of theltreasurers . I | f ?! e reaI secretolject of tbe Kaiser is to ' gain possession . r I th * gold and tUrer that comes iBt 0 tue cocntry . j Ufa-i T" ™ are oWi 8 ed t 0 indicate in their journals , in ! lust ' P ' eCeS and kinds of mone > ' P « AU the '• kntt !?» , J 0 Ieii ; a Sold pieces and all foreign silver is Pch . t aJm ' S treasur J at Vienna tlie Snt ° ay of ! ill" ' . . Ail foreign money which falls into the , » J ^* V ' orKa . vs rial treasuries are only issued fiom ¦ conveyed to Vienna . j
ct « f * ? ' PWuAaKe by law , for Austrian subirrin ^ - fr ^ the relicf o * misfortunnes oc- : jutl ° i F S n countries , unless special pennis- , Wi «« f ° . ? ranted bythe Kaiser- Totake P arfc l ! m ' - t \ i , crimc punished by conhsea- ' t » erit « r ^ wha a ^ it is permitted to make : Ci ! estates and houses . ; It is allowed to value ! iT ™ f « « tour times their real worth , and to I ioer tt J- t m fore ' £ D countries . Besides t ! ic ' ieu tu comts from abroad fortae sale of the ^ . Jviue D roprietorsoftbecstatcswliichareobligcd ! ^^™*~~~ ~ - ~—————————_^——_ i
RiTelations of Austria , " by M . Koubraktewict , « -1 - *» fuactionary . London : T . C . Newby , 72 , Mor- j ^ Stfjet . CiTwdish Square , *
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to pay to the Kaiser beforehand ten per cent , of the estimated price under the name of Regalia . Notwithstanding all its means of extortion and robbery , Jt gratifies us to know that , at the present time , the finances of the Austrian government are in a desperate state . Tiie government recently attempted to raise a loan , but failed . The Austrian despotism is rotten to tbe core and ripe for destruction . The next war-burst will utterly and irretrievably prostrate it in the dust .
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British America. Nova-Scotia.—On The 22n...
BRITISH AMERICA . Nova-Scotia . —On the 22 nd the Earl of Elgin ; the newly-appointed Governor-General of British North America , arrived at Halifax . The passage across the Atlantic had been boisterous and attended with intense cold . On Thursday , January 22 . the legislative assembly was opened , when the Lieutenant Governor delivered his speech . It alluded to the projected railroad between Halifax and Quebec , and the continuation of the line of electric telegraph from Canada to Halifax .
New Brusswick . —The legislature was not yet in session , but in anticipation of that event an interesting meeting ol the Chamber of Commerce of the city of St . John had been held . A petition to the governor was adopted for the abolition of lighthouse dues in tbe harbour of St . John , and for making the expense of its lighting establishment a charge on the seneral revenue . Another petition to the corporation of St , John ' s was likewise adopted , suggesting improvements in tbe buoying and pilotage of the port . The annual report of tbe committee ot management contained some interesting details respecting the erection of a sailors' home ; but the topics dwelt upon with most emphasis were reform in the Colonial Post-office : port charges and a judge to decide on cases between sailors ; light dues ; beacons ; and the electric telegraph .
WEST INDIES . Co-operatic * . —Associations of coloured persons have been able topurchase virions estates in Jamaica and other West India Islands . It is mentioned that the Perseverance Estates . 470 acres , has been sold fur 5 . 000 dollars . The Litttefield Estate . 500 acres , for 0 , 000 dollars . Lovely Lass Estate , 500 acres , sold lor 1 , 715 dollars . The North Brook Estate for 10 , 000 dollars .
CAPE OF GOOD HOPE . Cape of Good Hope papers to the 20 th of December have arrived . These announce tho continued srayof the Block-drift , where he was arranging tbe settlement of " British Caffraria , " and a spot had been selected in the Chnnie-valley as the site for a new town . Although hostilities have not been entirely suspended , still the notion is entertained that a peace will be concluded without further difficulty . Sir Andrew Stockenstrom has resigned the command of the Burgher forces . The following extract from one of the Graham ' s-town papers gives the outline of the plan to be pursued in arranging the frontier differences .
" The Kei is to be the limit of British control ; west of which Caffre authority will cease to exist . ^ '' Sandilla is no longer acknowledged as a chief , and is told that no more parleying can be held . " TJmtirara and his people are received as British subjects , and the most satisfactory arrangements have been made with them . "And Captain M'Lean is appointed British Commissioner for the Slambie tribes . "
NEW ZEALAND . The barque Cecilia , arrived at Plymouth on the 15 th instant , from Auckland , New Zealand . The native chief Heki , who formerly disturbed ^ the northern colony , continues quiet , and appears likely to remain so . In the south the vigorous measures of Governor Grey had completely suppressed the rebellious efforts of Ranehieta , whose brother was taken prisoner in Cook ' s Straits , and has been executed , after an investigation which proved his participation in the late disturbances on the river Hutt .
FRANCE . The accounts from the disturbed provinces are by no means favourable . Several riots have taken place , and the price of corn ia all the principal markets continue to rise . The Reforme states , that a general rise in the price of grain took place on Friday and Saturday in all the markets that supply Paris . At Soissons , Chartres , Etampes , Orleans , and Bray , the advance has been from If . to 2 F . per hectolitre ; at Rouen , Pont-Salnte-Mayence , Crcpy , Chateaudun , and Lagny , it has been higher still . Advices from more distant districts also announce an advance .
PORTUGAL . Thb Civil . War . —Limjox , Feh . 9 . —The Audaz ( brig of war ) sailed on the 2 nd inst . for Algoa , with the Torres Vedras prisoners . By the British frigates American and Thetis , which arrived here on the 7 th . having called off Oporto , we learn that the news of the arbitrary deportation of those unfortunate gentlemen had excited violent indignation in that city , and that bat for the personal exertions of Vhcoant S & da B mdeira and the other members of the junta , tbe Duke of Terceira and his companions in captivity would have been murdered by the infuriated people and soldiers . When the two English ships of war left Oporto the blockading sguadron . coasisting of afrigate and two smaller vessels , were cruizing off the port .
The other intelligence brought by them is that Caesar de Vasconcellos bad marched out with 2 , 500 men as far as Penafield , and that Antas had followed him on tke 31 st ult ., with 3 . 000 more . The object of these movements is probably to oblige Saldanha , who is still at Agueda , to concentrate his army again , by which means the insurgent forces , now harassed by the columns he has out under the command respectively of Lapa , Solla , and Ferceira , will be relieved and allowed breathing time . The Miguelite General , Macdonald , has found a soldier ' s grave . Being obliged to retreat from Villa Real before the combined forces of Vinhaes and Lapa , he went to the rear with 100 men to reconnoitre , when suddenly the enemy ' s
cavalry came upon him . Of the 100 men , only SIX stood by him : the others fled . The six and Macdonald died fighting manfully ; and yet the Diario , in reporting that they fell sword in hands , adds , that they died like cowards , " morrevao cabardemenle I " This needs no comment . Thedeath of poor old Macdonald removes a great stumbling block from the union of the Miguelites and Ultras . In consequence of the great rise in the price of bread , the Government is about to open tbe ports for the admission of foreign grain . The latest news from Oporto is , that Saldanha was stiii at Agueda . General Antas had marched to Barcellos , three leagues from Viana , where also Casal had encamped .
GERMANS . The Prussian Diet . —A Royal proclamation summons the general diet to meet at Berlin on the 11 th ol April next . So much itisery prevails ia Silesia that the governor of that province has proceeded to Berlin to request a reinforcement of troops , for fear the dearness of provisions should occasion disturbances . On the 31 st January all the foreign journals were seized , comprising the Universal XVutstctn Gazette , a semi-official organ of the Prussian government .
The municipal council of Stuttgard having signed a petition in favour of the liberty of tke press , the Alinister of Interior of Wurtemberg has been commanded by tho King to express to tbe corporation his displeasure at this proceeding . A letter from Manich says : — " Up to the present time the government has permitted a great number of persons , and particularly editors , to receive exceptionally by post foreign journals , disapproved ol by the censorship . The Minister of the Interior has now decided that editors alone shall be allowed to receive such journals , and on the express condition of taking an oath not to Jet them leave their office—not to communicate their contents to more of their colleagues than shall require them for editing the paper—and to deliver them up within a delay of twelve hours to the censor , who is to give a receipt for the same guarding them under kev for the government . "
ITALY . A letter from Ancona states , that serious disturbances have again taken place in the Romagna , owing to the high price of corn . In many instances the priests had led the peasantry to sack the warehouses To prevent a popular insurrection the government at Aneona put under sequestration a large quantity of corn bought on account of English merchants , notwithstanding the protestations of the English consul ; a reimbursement , however , was offered .
RUSSIA . Official information has reached this country that the Emperor of Russia has prohibited all further exportation of com from his dominions .
UNITED STATES AND MEXICO . The Hibernian arrived at Liverpool on Sunday . The proceedings of Congress present no features of particular note . In the Senate , on the 25 th ult ., Mr . Benton , on leave , made a speech in vindication of tha President , for having proposed the creation of the office of Lieutenant-General of the Amy . On the 27 th the Treasury Note Bill was read a third time and passed . Mr . Cilley's resolution to withdraw the troops from Mexico was taken np . and after some remarks Mr . Cilley made an explanation , and the resolution , waa laid on the table—yeas , 44 ; 0 the house the
nays , . In on same day , Mr . King , of Georgia , offered a joint resolution , which was j passed , directing the President to procure gold and silver medals for the officers and men of the French , Spanish , and English vesselsof-war , who aided in rescuing the seamen of the brig Somers . The bill to increase the pay of and grant bounty land to the regulars and volunteers of the arn \ y was finally passed by 171 to 18 . Mr . Sohenk moved a suspension of the rules to introduce his resolution relative to the withdrawal of tho troops from Mexico to the east tank , gf tba Rio Grarjth , which wm negatived
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by a vote of 23 to 150 . The two Senate amendments to the Treasury Note BUI were agreed to . In the Senate on the 23 th , Mr . Upham presented a resolution from the Legislature of Vermont against the Mexican war asd the acquisition of slave territory The committee on naval affairs reported a bill to provide for the construction of four steatn-ships-ofwar . Mr . Niks offered a resolution declaring it necessary to raise an additional revenue of 5 , 000 , 000 or 6 , 0 l ) u , 000 dols . annually by increasing tho duties on articles now taxed , and imposing duties on those now free , to meet tho expenses of the war . much
Accounts from the seat of war are not of importance . At the latest dates General Scott was at Brazos St . Jago , awaiting the arrival of troops , with which it was expected ho would , in conjunction with the squadron , invest Vera Cruz . Accounts from Tampico to the oth ult . state , that General Shield had divested the Mexican authorities of Tampico of civil power , and entrusted it to a board of Commissioners . FromiCaliforniaMerc is no late intelligence . Nothing had been heard ot General Kearney since he left Santa F 6 with a small escort of dragoons to cross the continent to Monterey , on the Pacific . T Thk Ann-Renters . —The governor ofSevt lork had pardoned the anti-rent convicts .
The Warrington "Shallows" And Their Vict...
THE WARRINGTON "SHALLOWS" AND THEIR VICTIMS . PSTITIOX OF WILLIAM PROWTIXO ROBERTS . ( Extracted from the '' Supplement to the Votes and Proceedings of the House of Commons . ) The humble Petition of William Proivtin ^ Roberts , of Manchester , Solicitor , Showeth , That on . Monday , tue 25 th of January last , at uaUpastjniaa in the morning , at Manchester , he was requested to attend at ^ Yarrington immediately , to defend James Gerrard , James Ireland , John Dobson , and Thomas Wyke , and two others , all labouring men , who , it was supposed ( but it was not known nith certainty ) , would be tried that morning a * Warrington , on a charge of bavin ? absented themselves from the service of their master , Mr . Joseph Baxter Edleston , a file manufacturer , of Warrington . "
Tint your petitioner , as soon as he could , procured ' , a po » t-chaise and went to Warrington , where he arrived at between half-past eleven and twelve o ' clock . That ou your petitioner ' * arrival iu court at Warrington , he learned that James Gerrard anil Thomas Wyke had already been tried bofore Thomas Lyon and William Stubs , esquires , Lancashire magistrates , and sentenced to three months' imprisonment and hard labour , and that James Ireland was then upon his trial , two witnesses having been examined against him . That your petitioner immediately requested the tnngis . trates to grant a re-hearing of the two cases already tried , as there bad been no time for procuring witnesses and taking Instructions for their defence . And jour petitioner represented to the magistrates that tbe said James Gerrard and Thomas Wyke , and alio the said Jamts Ireland and John Dobson , had been taken into custody at a place in Derbyshire , nine miles from Sheffield , early on
the morning of Sunday ; had arrived in ManchesUr at eight o ' clock at night , and were not in Warrinjton till near nine o ' clock on that morninir , Monday ; that they had been refused all intercourse with their friends in Warrington ; that no notice had been given of their trial , and that it was not known , until their arrival in Warrington , that they were about to ' be tried : and thatunder those circumstances it was Impossible that they could obtain legal assistance and procure witnesses for their defence . Your petitioner also referred to the Act of Parliament , enacting , in cases where the magistrates were invested with a summary jurisdiction , that persona accused should be admitted to make their full answer ana defence , and to havo all witnesses examined and cross-examined by counsel or attorney , but that this privilege was altogether nugatory and useless unless the accused had some little time allowed them for preparation ; but the said magistrates refused j our said petitioner ' s request .
That your petitioner afterwards was informed , that at the trial of thesaid James Gerrard aud Thomas Wyke , no informations had been r ^ ad against them , and that no informations against them were in the court . That the Act of Parliament under which the said four persons were charged was the 4 th Geo . 4 th . e . 31 , and that the third section of such Act gives cognizance of offences against masters " upon complaint upon oath " before a magistrate ; that such complaint upon oath is called the information , and that in the absence of such information no person can be legally tried . That your petitioner thereupon requested time to prepare for the defence of the said James Ireland , and was allowed tea minutes ; your petitioner requested longer time , but was refused .
That after about ten minutes the trial of James Ireland recommenced , and , after two witnesses had been examined , your petitioner , considering that what was sworn to did not amount to any offence , requested to see the information ; that your petitioner was then told that none of the informations were in court . The information , however , against James Ireland was sent for and brought , and soon afterwards , when replying to the CS 88 against the said James Ireland , your petitioner requested x copy of the said information , but that the magistrates refused to allow him one ; that your petitioner then requested that the information might he read so slowly that
he might copy it down , but that thesaid magistrates refused such request ; that petitioner then requested the said magistrates to allow him to look at and hold the information iu hU hand v & Ua te atg-asd horn it , but that said magistrates refused such request ; and that then your petitioner ' gave up the defence of the * atd James Ireland . Your petitioner had many points to urge with regard to the said information , and so informed the magistrates ; that the magistrates' clerk informed jour petitic ner he might have any part of the information , read to him that he liked , but your petitioner declined this . That the said James Ireland was thereupon sentenced to three months'imprisonment and hard labour .
That th & commencing ta try the said James Ireland in the absence of the information against him was contrary to law . That the refusal of a copy of the said information , and tbe refusal to allow it to be read slowly , and the refusal of permission to hold it while arguing upon it , were contrary to the rules and usages of and before the judges of the superior courts , and that such trial and such refusal are vary prejudicial to the defence ofa person accused . That afterwards John Dobson was brought up to be tried , and , in reply to an application for time , the magistrate )) offered to postpone his trial for a week . That
thereupon your petitioner requested that in the meantime tbe said John Dobson might be out on bail , but that tbe magistrates refused such request , tnd that thereupon your petitioner did not press the request for a postponement of tbe trial . Your Petitioner then asked to see the information against the said John Dobson , and was told that it was not in court , but that it would be sent for , and while being sent for he might see the friends of the said John Dobson and prepare bis defence . That the sai 1 John Dobson was in about ten minutes called upon to be tried , and that at the same moment tbe messenger who had been sent for the information returned and said it could not be
found ; that thereupon your petitioner requested that the said John Dobson might be set at liberty , there bring then no charge against him ; hut tbe magistrates' clcth Bald , " 0 , no , we can make another , " and thitt forthwith tbe s & id clerk wrote out another information , and the said Joseph Baxter Edlesten was sworn to the same . That your petitioner endeavoured to persuade the said clerk and the said magistrates that such mode of trial was vtry irregular , but that the said magistrates decided that it was quite regular , and should proceed . That thereuponyourpetitionerrequestcd acopy of such new information , and then that it should be read so slowly as that it could be taken down in writing : and that
afterwards your petitioner requested a copy of the contract which the said John Dobson was charged with not observing , and then that the said contract should be read so slowly that it might be taken down in writing ; but that the said magistrates refused such requests as to the said information and contract , desiring their ckrk to read them in the usual way ; but tbe said magistrates permitted your petitioner to look at and hold the said information and contract in his hand . That this mode of conducting a trial was quite new to your petitioner , but that the clerk to the magistrates , and the magistrates themselves , and the solicitor for the prosecution , said it was all quite regular and proper , and the usual way , or to that effect .
That the ' said John Dobson was sentenced to three months' imprisonment and hard labour . That thereupon the prosecutor , Joseph C . ixter Edlesten , addressed the magistrates , and said he , would consent to the said John Dobsou'a discharge if he would pay tbe costs of bringing him from Derbyshire ; that the magistrates assented to this , and asked the constable what was the amount of expenses , and that the said constable said , four pounds , one shilling , and eightpeace halfpenny was Dobson's share ; that the said magistrates asked the prisoner whether be would pay this sum ; but he was very poor and unable to do so , and was thereupon sentenced to three months'imprisonment and hard labour .
That your petitioner submits that , inasmuch as the information on which the said John Dobson had been taken into custody in Derbyshire had been abandoned , he A'as not liable either in law , or equity , or reason , to pay the said four pounds , one shilling , anil cightpence halfpenny . The only costs which If could be said the said John Dobson was liable to pay wera the costs of the information sworn to while Ue stood ia the prisoner ' s dock . And therefore your petitioner says that the said John Dobson is not justly imprisoued , for that he is imprisoned for not pay ing u sum whiuh he was not liable to pay , to frit , the suid sum of four pound ; , one shilling , and eightpeace halfpenny , aud that he is not imprisoned for violating his contract . And your petitioner says that the offering to release an accused person if he will pay a sum which he does not owe , and tbe imprisoning him if he refuses to pay it , are oppressive , and contrary to law .
And your petitiener submits that tho said James Gerrard , Thomas Wyke , James Ireland , and John Dobson , have not , for the reasons aforesaid , had fair trials ; and that there is no mode ot obtaining the release of the said four pereoas unless your honourable house shall interfere in tksir behalf ; for that the only remedies by which in law they could obtain their liberty are the writs of fta 6 coJMrpi « and « erftor « ri ; and that the returns to the said writs would uittloat the informations , tho evidence .
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and the conrictions , but not the absence of the informa . Uons at the said trials , nor any of the oilier matters above complained . of ; and that the judges of the superior courts , in deciding onj writs of habeas corpus and certi . orari , will only take notice of what appears in the returns thereto , ami will not allow of any argument but what is founded on such returns . That the practice of trying persons accused under acts giving summary jurisdiction to magistrates inimc diately , or very soon after they are taken into custody , and in the mean time of restraining them from intercourse with their friends , is very common in Lancashire , and is deserving of the interference of your hououraule house . That tho Act of Parliament under which the said four persons were convicted , and are now in ICirkdale gaol , is very penal in its enactments against working men , and that it gives no right to appeal .
Your petitioner therefore humbly prays that your honourable house will give sucli relief in the promises as to your honourable hiusa shall seem fit anfl proper , and particularly that your honourable house will so order as that persons accused before magistrates in petty sessions may have the benefit of the rules &*
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Destitute State of the Spitalfielos Weavers . —On Tuesday , a general meeting of the unemployed broad silk-weavers was held in the Crown and Anchor Tavern , Waterloo Town , Betiinal Green , for the purpose of memorialising tier Majesty on the prosent depressed condition ot the trade , and the destitution consequently existing anions : the weavers . The meeting was numerous ) r attended . Mr . Avnech was unanimously called to the chair . The meeting was addressed by Messrs . Moles , Burrows , Vendome , Ferdinando , Sherrard , anil others , at considerable length , explanatory of the state of the trade , and of the causes which , in their opinion , had produced it . The following resolution was unanimously adopted : — " That it is the opinion of this meeting that the silk
trade is in a more depressed condition at this time than it has been for a number of years , this meeting being in a condition to prove that more than onethird of the hands in SpitalSelds are at present unemployed ; the consequence has been an immense increase of pauperism in the district . Besides this , there are an immense number of familiea enduring almost unheard-of privations , keeping their miseries to themselves , and suifrring even unto death without making it known ; and in the opinion of this meeting nearly the whole of this distress has been caused by the measures introduced into Parliament by Sir It . Peel and sanctioned by that august body , for reducing the duty on foreign wrought silks . This has caused an immense stagnation in the home silk trade , as well as great reduction in the wages of labour .
The manufacturers , instead of employing English labour to manufacture silk goods , have become importers of foreign silks , choosing to encourage what they term the cheap labour of the foreigner in preferance to that of the English artisan . And this meeting is further of opinion , that unless the government interferes to secure the home market to the English producer , that the trade will in future sink into a more depressed condition than it now is . " A memorial to her Majesty , based upon the preceding resolution , and praying that she would exercise her royal prerogative to cause measures to be introduced into Parliament for their relief , was also unanimously adopted , and a committee of five having been appointed to carry out the objects of the meeting , it broke up after the customary vote of thanks to the chairman .
Tower Hamlets Shoemakers . — A preliminary meeting of CorJwainecs was held at the Hermit Tavern , Bedford-square Ea > t , on Monday , February loth , to take into consideration tho best means of benefiting their trade , when several shopmafes enrolled their names , and resolved— " That n sub committee of five be appointed to draw up an address and bills for a public meeting . The meeting was then adjourned until Monday , the first of March , at the IleimU Tavern , Bedford-squaro East . NOTTINGHAM—United Trades . —A general meeting of all branches of Frame-work Knitters was held at their Assembly Rooms , the King George on Horseback Tavern , Gregory's Buildings on Monday , February the 15 th .
Mr . Carnall was unanimously called to the chair , and briefly opened the proceedings , and called on the deputation who had been waitim ; on the several masters , with a view to the assimilation of the " Bump weight , " which they did in a manner highly satisfactory to the meeting . Messrs . Winters , of Carlton , Dean , of Nottingham , and several others addressed t lie meeting on the benefits to be derived from joining the National Associations of United Trades . Mr . Wolley , the District Secretary , reported that upwards ^ of one hundred membenliad enrolled their names in the " Monster Association" since their last meeting , ami that they also had received a great acquisition of strength at Arnold also since bis last report . The following resolutions were then submitted to the meeting and adopted .
That the middle masters in the " cut up branch , " be requested to co-operate with the District Committee , in order to efftct a regulation of the prices and weights , aud the abolition of "Bump weight . " That a time and place be appointed for the masters to meet such portion of the Committee as shall be appointed , for the purpose of making the necessary arrangements in order to ensure general satisfaction . That the Associations give such protection as their rules afford to cither middle masters or journeymen , who may be temporarily injured by joining the Associa * tions . That th . e members of tha "National Associations " shall be identified by cards distributed in the several localities for that purpose , and their names entered in a general register kept by the District Secretary .
That deputations bo sent to all the surrounding villages , to explain in meetings convened for that purpose , the proceedings of the District Committee , and to solicit the co-operation of their fellow workmen . That the number of persons employed in making '' cuts up" be ascertained , and forwarded to the District Secretary . That a vote of thanks be givau to those manufacturers who have already agreed to a systematic mode of working . That this meeting pledges itself individually and collectively , by every legal means in their power , to uphold the " list prices . " That this meeting at its rising , stand adjourned until the first day of March next . That a vote of thanks bo given to tho Executive Committee and the Chairman for their services . The meeting then adjourned . Mark Wallet . District Secretary .
THE STOCKPORT BLEACHERS AND FINISHERS . —A report having been circulated that we , the bleachers and finishers , lately employed by Messrs . Ilollitis , Veltman , and Co ., have acted wrong in leaving our work ,. inasmuch as ( it is said ) no reduction has been offered , but merely a mistake corrected , wo will offer a brief explanation . The above-named firm have but lately begun to bleach and finish the kind of fabric about which this dispute has arisen , therefore , the men have been working at a certain rate per day , as is commonly the case at the commencement of an establishment of the kind , until about tour or fi re months previous to t ! ie strike . The makers-up and packers then took their work by the piece at theratoofSs . 3 d . per 100 pieces of 20 yards
each , that being the length of this kind of cloth . They were paid at this rate for foun- months , at the end of which time they went to reckon up their week ' s work as usual , but were told that they had been overpaid ; that their agreement was for twenty , four yards to the piece , or 120 pieces of twenty yards each to the 100 , which statement was declared to be false , and tho parties were asked to produce it in writing . They said they had it in writing , but no such written list of prices was produced until two or three days had passed over , when the manager and book-keeper could each of them produce one , both of which bore evident matlu of being recently drawn up . They still maintained that they were right and the consequence was , we all strucktwork rather than allow our follow workmen to be reduced twenty per
cent . Butcananyone think it possible , even supposing our employers to be correct , that a mistake of Ids per cent could be made weekl y for four mouths without detection ? We must add that tho employers were willing to pass over what had been overpaid if the men would consent to work in future at the reduced , price , which would not havo been the case had the firm been correct . A great deal more might he said with respect to this matter , but we think this sufficient to convince any reasonable man which of the parties are right . The firm were the chief advocates in this town for the Repeal of the Corn Laws which , they said , would bring us " cheap bread" and " high wages , " and , since the Bill passed , there has scarcely been a week but there has been some disturbance over the men ' s va » cs ' .
SPITALFIELD WEAVERS' BRANCH of the National Trades' Association , hold at tho White Horse , Hare-street Bcthnnl-green , Feb . 10 th , resolved . — " That this meeting requests the attention of the directors of the National Association of United Trades for the protection of Industry to the necessity of an immediate and vigorous agitation of tho metropoiisjparticiilarly . this district ) by public , meetings explanatory of their views and objects . "
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GATES ih ? lf i "esdaJr ? reni ' , | ga nectingoft ! io whole of humt & \ ! t ! leir ™™ . M > - 2 - *<>* - onfifii 00 " ^ , mme ^ tely after the division on the second reading of tho Ten Hours Bill . Tho ££ & nn " r as t 0 « " £ Sir tLks to flZto , i fi ^'"" nent who teak pavt iu the tn ^ Lnl \ n \ r ° bcst mcil , l s of securing the nnill success of the measure . Mr . innn 1 nn « h .-. t lluildersfield , was called t 0 tlmclmir . ' The following answer to the delegates' memorial to Sir Robert Feel , which was presented to him oi ! Saturday night , was read to the meeting : — _ , Whitehall , tfeb . 17 , Oentlemeu—I have received your communication 0 f the 13 ih of February , addressed to me in your capacity of delegates from the operatives of Lancashire and Wrksiiire .
I am not disposed to deny the special obli gations which are imposed upon ms . ou account , of Uie v « lation in which my family has stood towards that branch of industry to which your letter refers . hut the duty implied by tlioso obligations is that 1 should take that course which I conscientiously believe to be just towards tho working classes , and conducive- to their permanent welfare ; and , a * I consider further lugislaiive restriction on the hours of labour in factoiius to be inconsistent with justice and good policy , I decline to support thein . I am , Gentlemen , your obedient servant , HoiiiuT Peel . Mr . Thomas Mawdsley , Mr , Johij Brewer .
The thanks of the delcgntos wore then unanimous ] v passed to Mr . Bernal , Mr . Ferrand , Sir Robert Inglis , Mr . S . Crawford , Sir George Strickland , Lord George Bentinck , and Lord Ebrington , for their abio advocacy of the Ten Hours Bill . Tho thanks of the delegates were also given to the H 75 Members who voted for the secmd wading of the Bill , and to Mi ' . Labouchcre and Sir Robert Peel , who , although opposed lo the measure , resisted the base and factious efforts of Mr . Escott and Mr . Bright , to prevent a division by moving the adjournment of tho house , on the unparliamentary ground that certain Members of Parliament had not spoken . Thanks were then voted to the chairman , aud the delegates separated .
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TO THE KMIOR OS THB KOBTHER STAtt . Sib , — Permit me through tho medium of your columns , toofftsr to Almighty God the grateful thanks of an overflowing heart for lli < gracious interference in behalf of the poor oppressed factory children and women ! He has heard their prayers and mine ; He has disposed the hearts of a vast majority of the mom bors present this day in the House of Commons to vote for the second reading of the Ten Hours' Factory Bill ! If y heart is too full to allow ma to utter all I feci . God . be praised 1 His is the Glory ! May those who will be benefitted by that Bill ; . om with mo in ptaiaing him ! I thank the members of the press whom He has disponed to aid this nacred cause . I thank the members of the House of Commons who havo voted this day in favour of tho Ten Hours ' Factory Bill .
Nay , 1 rejoice to bo able to offer my thanks to Sir Robert Peel and Mr . Labouchero , opponents though they may be , for tho very handsome and gentlemanlike manner in which they frustrated tbe base attempt of tho enemies of the Bill to insult iho House of Commons , and to delay the vote on this most important measure . As for Mr . Bright , I really do pity him . When I meet him in Manchester , as I most certainly shall do , I will tell him , before the people there , why . And now , one word to tho friend * of the Ten Hours ' Bill . — . "Be instant , in season aud out of season ;" pray to God for His blessing ; deserve his blessing by yourwork !
Thank you , Sir , for inserting this ; and believe mo to be , your grateful servant , RlCHARO OaSILEn . London , Feb . 17 , IS 47 .
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TIIE "WEST TESTIMONIAL " Some weeks ago the Macclesfield comnuttec did me the honour to appoint me treasurer , for ' the metropolitan districts , for any subscriptions that might be ie : eived fi-r ihe testimonial in hocourof John Wctt . I am very averse to holding the oi ' tice of treasurer to any fund , nevertheless I accepted the appointment until some one better qualified could be fouud to whom I could transfer the appointment . I could not ihink of applying to Mr . O'Connor , knowing , as I do , that he has already several treasure ! ships to attend to . Atlas , himself , had hardly a heavier load to bear , and it would have been no
act of justice or friendship for me to have essayed to add to the existing burden . 1 naturally turned to a man whese name is de :. to the people , identified as that name is with the struggles of many years for the establishment of the rights of labour—Richard Oastler . I felt that the withdrawal of my own humble name , and tho substitution of that ot the factory people ' s " king , ' would bejboth a compliment and a service to the cause the men of Macclesfield havo nt heart . Of course I could not do this without consulting Mr . Oastler ; accordingly , I addressed a letter to that gentleman , in answer to which I received tho following reply : — London , February Sth , 1 S 47 .
My Dear Sir , —ij have read your httcr with dtep regret . 1 am indeed grieved that a man so worthy of prosperity should bo suffering under the pangs of adversity . Here then , we have another proof , that talent , industry , and honesty , are' no guarantee to plenty ; else poor John West would not bo " in poverty at the loom . " I should have great pleasure if , by the use of my name the funds for his "Testimonial" could be augmented . Use it in any way you think best , except as treasurer . I have never been treasurer for public funds , I have long formed a n-soluti n that I never will be . I will' mention John ^ Ycst 9 ease where I think it will he useful , and shall be glad if you will let mo have a book , properly authenticated , for subscriptions . With hearty wishes for , the success of" West ' s Testlmom al . " I remain , my dear Sir , Your ' s truly ,
liicfliao Oastler . To Mr . G . Julian If arney . It is only right to add that the proofs of Mr . Oastlcr ' s esteem and sympathy for Mr . West have not been confined to the contents of tho above letter . Of course , I shall continue to hold the ( metropolitan ) treasurership , until I can transfer the appointment to some oue more worthy , or possessed of influence which 1 cannot lay claim to . After what has recently appeared in this journal , it is unnecessary that I should express my sense of the claims of Mr . West . I will merely say if those claims are neglected by the people , ifc will prove that the masses are not yet sensible of tho worth of so able a man , and are not yet in- a position to command tho respect of other classes , because not just to the truly great men of their own order . „„ , G . JULIAN HARNEY . Northern Star Of & co , Feb . 17 , 1347 .
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? Soiree of tue Wmttinoto . v Clob , —The foundation of the 'Whittingtoii Club was celebrated on Wednesday evening , by a gathering of the mombers and thtir friends , at the London Tavern . The room was so full that many could not gain admission . The chair was occupied b y Doughs Jerrold , Esq ., the president and foundw of the club , round whom wore congregated on the platform a large number of distinguished individuals , including Indies . Mr . Jcrrold opened the proceedings in a pithy address , which was received with enthusiasm , Ilo doscrUnd the objects ot tlio clu \> , and the advantages which would bo enjoyed by its numbers in reading , conversation , Arc . Jlr . J . rrold concluded by propheysying the highest and most beneficial results from the institution , both in our own , ami in times to come— -Addrescs wore then delivered by Dr . Mullinger , Mr . Dawson , Dr . Ikiwring . and other gentlemen , tho entertainment being further supported by distinguished vocalists , among whom were MissKaim ' orth , Miss Bassano , Jliss Messent , and Mr , Wetberbce .
Funeral o ? a Vetbrav , —On Saturday last a largo crowd collected ftt Konsall Green Cemetery to witness the interment of Mr . George Robinson , aged 103 , who was one of the principal horse dealers in this country , and had amassed considerable property in his business . Among tho mourners was his juvenile son , of S 3 years of a ; o , i « excellent health , and possessed of every faculty . Tho deceased till within the last four or live d ;> y » , hail , with tho aid of a stick , been able to walk tho neighbourhood of his residence , Maida-hill . ' # Ev . vntos—Destitution . —A meeting of farmers ' was hold hero last week to consider the destitute condition of the labouring people iii tho parish . The meeting resolved to establish a depot in the village , and there to place immediately one hundred and seventy bolls of sound oat and barley meal . Tho meal is to be sold to the poor on the lowest possible terms ; tho price to bo restricted to 28 ? per boll of 157 | lb . ; the barleymcal to bu 20 j per nine stones of 157 * lb .
Roi ' s Last Wo » k . —It must be a matter of surprise to the public generally to pererivo how varied are tho opinions expressed by the leading newspapers , with respectto Mr . Dickens ' s hist publication , It may well ho imagined that some ndvvrso criticisms mum the works of this and other celebrated authors may proceed from personal feelings , or educational prejudices . These , howcvor , could account for but a few . The majority , as wo may have tiie best medical authority for statin ;? , m » y be ascribed to irritability of temper , generally arising from n deranged statu of the liver null other viscera , mid which could easily be remedied by the occasional uso of I ' rtunpton' » Pill of Health , wliicii is gentle jj > . Us , operation and unfailing iu its effect .
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HOUSE OF LORDS , Feb . 15 . MOXDAY . —REFOUM OF THE CIIUHCIT .-Eari Fitjiwilmam presented a petition which excited some interest coming as it did from a clergyman in Oxford , shire , and praying for an increase of the number of bishops , so that the church should have ihe btnefit of the supervision of 52 of them ; that they should he relieved from their lexfclatire duties , in ord .-r . Hmt tbey mi lit bo the more capabld of attending to thtirlecclosiajtical functions , that their , at present too large salaries , should bo cut down , the taring distributed nmomist the working cl » rgy , so that the number of that iln ^ s might bo augmented 800 , atsalarii'S . of £ 100 , and that the laity should as of old have a voice in the management of the Church .
HAILWAYS—STATE OF THE CUHRENCY—Lord . Asiiuurton moved for returns wi th reference to tho Railways and the Bank of Enaland for the purpose of showing that those undertakings " should be limited in tha present state of the country and the currency , fie wished to ascertain how far tha operations nri « in , r out of thoso cchrmes misht , unions ; other effects , haven tendency to deprive the legitimate commerce of the country of these resources which It would otherwise enjoy , and how far they might tend to embarrass the finances of the rovenu mont . Something like a new circulating medium , in the shape of bonds and debentures , interfering very much with Exchequer . bills , hud arisen out of these schemes . There had also been n considerable drain of bullion from the bank of England for some wteks or a fow months past . There was also an apprehension that , in some sh .-ipa or other , Government would borrow a considerable > nm of money , and millions scorned to be tossed about with great levity . These were circumstances which rendered it important that their tavdalups should have all possible information on the subject .
The Earl of Clabrspos thought that the returns should have been giv . n notice of ^ ln the usuiil manner , especially as the noblo lord had accompanied his motion by a most important , corapraliensive , aiid In some respects alarming speech . liOiA" AsBBBBToif consented to ' withdraw his motion till Thursday . IRISH PAUPERISM . —Another conversation on the often mooted subject of the Emigration of Irish paupers Into Liverpool arose , in the course of which Earl Grey stated that since the commencement of the present year , bstween 6 , 000 and 7 , 000 emigrants had left Livtrpool for the United States . But tho information he had received was to the effect that by far the majority of those persons who had landed in Liverpool from Ireland had come ta this country in order to obtain relief , aud were not of the class of persons who were like to emigrate . He was led to believe , from what he had henrd on the siiljtxt , that emigration during the presont ysar would be carried on upon n very l « rge scale .
DESTITUTE PERSONS ( IRELAND ) BILL The Mahquis op Landsdownb in moving the second reading of this bill , brbfly explained its scope and objects . Lord BkocouaM in a lengthy speech blamed tbe Government for not calling Pjrliament together in November last . He otjected to the principle on which their measures were framed . Ho winhcd to record anew his objection to any measures of rriiof that proceeded on the assumption of the doctrine that it was any part Of tho duty of any government whatever to feed the people of aay country , or to provide food , wages , or labour for tho peopla . The duty of tho government was to secure tha rights of the people and the rights of property , never to interfere with cither one right or the other , and to smooth away every obstacle , and remove every impediment , which either the bad law » , the violence or the
wickedness of men or of courts , might interpose in the way off every man dealing with his property as he listed , and disposing of his labour where and rb he might think proper . It was never the duty ofa government to interfere exeej * under extraordinary and almost unparalhlcd circurM stances , and the proof of that extraordinary necessity 1 » upon those who Interfered . It also lay upon them to prove that thry might saM y apply the funds of the people to the relief of such a necessity , and that they hod the right to give the relief ; because they had no right to give relhf to one at the ex . penss of anothar part of the community . He then criticised severely the proceedings of the Government , ¦ with reference to the mode of relieving distress in Ireland during tbe recess , and turning to the question of Repeal , denied that the miseries of Ireland were in any way
attributable to the union between the two countries ia support of this proposition , he read evidence to show that previous to the union , Ireland was in a very similar state in what it is now . The Irish people were thrown on the English for sustenance , with the promise that tha cost should be repaid . lie had little faith in the promise . Afl the Irish gentlemen said , "Oh , of course , we mean to repay you . Only giro us your money as a loan —of course wo mean and intend to repay you . " But when ho had put tho question to them , "But do yon think you will repay ? " that was a very different thing , lie had never yet met » ne of them who seemed to have any kind of confidence that they would repay . Indeed ,
it was more that usual with them to say , " We have alt the will ; but wc don ' t think we shall be able . " ( A laugh . ) When we In England wanted money , however , we CQUld not » o into the money market and get it at the current intTest on such security . ( Hear , hear . ) And those who held this language seemed to forget how their estates wer » mortgaged , and that yet they contrived to command all the luxuries of life , such as all men in the same ranle in England could not command—they could have their servants , their carriages , and their French wines . These were soma of tha complaints wc in England made against those who came to ask for money ; and as they came to ask for money , it entitled us to make remarks which would otherwite be indelicate .
Lord BaooonAM s attack on the landlords produced 30 wmal , a host of defenders of that body . Lord Stjnliy thought the noble and learned lord had dealt too severely with the Irish landlords , and that soma of his animadversions upon tha people of that country might have been spared . The landlords cheerfully aequiesccd in the proposal to make them responsible for all moneys to be adrancod to remedy the evils existing ia tho present condition of Ireland . He was not prepared to admit that all the provisions of the present bill wera unexceptionable , but ho would not now objt-ct to it , tvuatins to the discretion ot ttio Government in carrying it out . He Would , however , warn the Government against enacting a permanent poor-law for Ireland , with the majority of its representatives so decidedly opposed to it , If they did enact juch a law , it would be advisable to extend to Irish property so burdened that degree of protea * tion against waste and abuse which property possessed in ' England .
His Lordship ' s objections to a real poor-law wer * warmly echoed by Lords Fitzwiluiu and Montkaoib . The Marquis of L » ndsdowne also expressed his obligations to Lord Stanley for the valuable suggestions ha had given , to which he promised the Government would pay marked attention , and some of which be at once promised should be adopted . Tho Bill was read a second time , and their Lordships adjourned at half-past nine . HOUSE OF COMMONS , Feb . 15 . MONDAY . —RAILWAYS IN IRELAND . —Jfr . 0 * . bobnb gave notice that , in the event of tho Railways ( Ireland ) Bill being thrown out , he would propose that Government should undertake to afford facilities for complating such of the railways now in progress in Ireland as should obtain the recommendation of the Board of Works . CASTLEBAR UNION . —To questions for LordDojf * caw and Mr . P . Schops
Sir Groses Ghet stated that it was true the board o £ . g uardians of tha Gastlcbar Union had been dissolved by the Poor Law Commissioners , and that steps had ! been taken for the immediate election of another board . Sir . P . Scrope wisbfd to know whether the Government had it in contemplation to institute a prosecution of tha guardians , who , during the last three months , had been suspending relief to able bodied paupers , and shutting the workhouse-door in their faces , in consequence o £ which a largo number of persons had died from starvation within the limits of the union , as was recorded by coroners' inquests in upwards of 100 cases « Ho wished to know whether the Government intended to prosecute those guardians for their heinous neglect of duty ? Sir G . Gbet said that ho was not in possession of any information which authorised him to StaU that « uch a prosecution had been instituted or was contemplated .
Mr . P . Scbope wished to know whether the right hen . gentleman thought that tho Government had it in their power to institute a prosecution against the dismissed guardians ? Were the guardians legally responsible for their conduct 1 Sir G . Gkev said that lis could not answer the quegtion . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . P , Scsofb culled upon the Attorney . Gooeral to > answer It . ( "Order , order . " ) Mr . F . French condemned tho practice of making attacks upon individuals under cover of questions proposed to a Miniitcr of tho Crown . Mr . P . Scrope said , hcmercly wished to know whether the right to out-door relief existed in Ireland ; because , If It did not , he would endeavour to persuade the Government and the house to establish it by the bill which ho had given notice of his intention to introduce THE WELLINGTON STATUE . —To a question from Mr . C . Berkeley ,
Lord Morpeth stated that the sub-eommiftea of tho Wellington statue had given in > -trHetimts to the -culptor to romove the scaffolding on Vic north side , ns they did not think the government and the country had as yet n fair view of tho statue . If the government should continue to think tbe site unfavourable , the sub-committee had consented to remove tho statue . Lord MoRPKTir intimated that tlin government wero of opinion that the north side of Waterloo-place would be the best site . Mr . Mackis . vox—Is the noblo lord aware that .
araonRSt the ancients—( Great laughter)—it was held to > bo a great indignity to an individual , either during hist life or after his death , to remove any statue or trophy orectul to his honour } Is the noble lord also aware of another circumstance ! ( " Order , " and " Oh ! " ) I am & bwittoyvAa < lu < litiou > tlwvlRhl ought to apologize for proposing it to so distinguished a classic . Is the noblo lord awaro that , at Pomptii , an equestrian statue was erected over an arch in the same attitude as that of tha Duko of Wellington ! I have a print of tho statue , sad will let thd noblo lord se e it . ( ' U « ar , " aud laughter .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 20, 1847, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns2_20021847/page/7/
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