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fO TSS EDITOa OF THE FREEHAK S JOFRSUL . ¦ - Koclibellew , Jutianstown , Drojlioda , January 8 th , 1850 . ptm gnu—Ton have proved yourself to be the firm and jj ntomprenaang Mend of the farming classes , as well as lie steady and determined foe to laneiltHxl oppression ; and a <; sneh 1 furnish you with a few facts which you arc at liberty to use in any way that suits your purpose . The farm of Sarsfieldstown has been in the occupation flfmy finuly for . three generations . . Owing to the uiigenejons conduct of tbe landlord and bis agent , I was obliged to surrender the land on the Hth of Koveaiber last For the last twelve years I have been tenant from year to year , in consequence of my disinclination to take alease of fourteen jiars—the longest term the landlord would gire . Finding nyhwbuity to continue paving the rent I contracted for , foran
I applied two or three times , within the la ' stsxyears , abatancnt , but was refused each time . I bad then no'other alternative bnt to recover the value of mj improvements by cropping ont the land ; after which I served a six months noiiee of surrender , at the same dine , mnlnn . T what I conceited to be , a fair offer for the form , conditioning for a long lease . What do you tumfc was tbe reply f Tbelaudlord , writing to . the agent , says : — "I certainly will not make any permanent arrangement , with Markey , who , I think is raking a very unfair advantage after the number i ^ eats he and his family nave been on the farm . " This J ^ * ht ± <*! aeroas oBSerinade toa . inaxi paying £ 531 yearly S 325 a ^ rcs ari ? W « fv * rybadlauO , . . . The farm was taken immediately * . ! my Icarmg , by am Bushman , a Mr . Dram , from Norwich , who informed me Sat he gets a lease of twenty-one years , and is to be allowed for srwieimprovcments . ^ . , ¦ tie 3 ait that would maie an :
I intimated to *< I expos tlironghtte public press ofthe treatment I received . Bis renlvvvas that he did not care for pnbuc opinion , and that hewmldnot condcscend to give any explanation ; Iforgot to mention , that through a legal informality , ^ ^^ to compensate me for the timber growing on * Sarsfieldstown , which was purchased % my grandfather . , The narneof this generous and land landlord is William BlundeU , Esq .. Crosby HaU , Lancashire , a jjerpetiialabsentee - aud bis just afidliberal aseut is > lefcolas Ellis , Iisitsroe , ' Clones , County Monagliau , and Hardwicke-place , ^ Ihave now a r fcasfog : duty t o perfonai . by recordhuj » contrastinthe conduct of my present landlord , Edmimd Doran , Esq ., a gentleman of enlighteEed and honourable mina . On the subject of landlord and tenant , his opinions are most liberal and just , advocating the right to compensation for permanent improvements , where a sufficient interest is tint given by length of lease . To prove his sin . ceritv he hssgssen me three lives and thirty-one jews , winch is equivalent to 103 years .
The Protectionist bubble whl soon burst The farmers of tins part of the country are quite awake to the sordid and selfish motives which actuate the movers ofthe-conspiracy , and they am determined to defeat the dishonest game . Ihasetae honour to be , dear sir , Tour very obedient servant Patbick ILiEKET .
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A VISIT TO POTTERSVILLE , WISCONSIN TERRITORY , UXITED STATES . TO XHE JEMTOB OF THE XOKTHEBK STAfi-Sih , —We now commence to give you a statement of the far West . We were both working on tht Plank-road till 2 ath November , when the frost set in , and tbe work being stopped , we started for the West on tbe 4 th of December , 1849 , and after going through several counties wearrived . in the town oi Port Wincba « oon the Hth , " when fortunately we fell in with Mr . Scott , the lecturer from Paisley ; we were happy to meet him , bat his hopes were all blasted concerning the Potter ' s Land Scheme , but be was glad at meeting us . We all went down to Twhzg ' s land together , which was eight miles from the first store , and when we crossed the ferry to the Indian land , we went into the store as they called itbut ic-came far short of what it was r * v
, presented to tbe British public , and we were greatly disappointed at sts appearance , when seeing there was nothing in £ heir store except flour and a little pork , and that Is all those settled on the land had to live upon . We may here mention , that there . are about sixteen men and boys , and one woman , eating the best Soar and pork , where two good men aud a boy could do all they had to do , and some of them get cash , while tbe poor members who are keeping up ihi-ir iots do not know of it , —so much the more pity . To give you an idea oi their handsthe land snrveyor ,. for instance , puts us in mind of Twister J ' " £ —— , and sneh like fine men . The storekeeper told us their credit was . gon <\ and that the pork would be done in a few days , wL : u there would be nothins except the bare flour , as there
had been no cash seat from England for some time . We wondered what Twigg bad done with all the money that had been sent froin . England , seeing he had purchased no land , but let them ( the members ) take up where they please , he having no right to tho land more than any other person in the place ; § nd even if it was only that , but he has placed them in the worst portion of land , and the Yankees have picked up and made claim to all the best land in the middle of his claim . Now we have diligently investigated into the ease of claim , and have learned , that if he had applied to government he might have had it protected when it eame into the market , but he has not done so , and now it would take a good deal of money to buy up the claims made around him even if lie had the power to io so , but we all
think here he never will , as he is off to England on pretence of getting money for a grist mill , and it Is thongbt by a great many that , he never will return with the money ; and it will be a great pity ifhe gets any more into his hands , considering the way he has acted in not purchasing land when he came out with the money first . Plenty , of good land could have been had at government prices if he had looked after it ; if he had done so , the members would have run no risk of losing their land , but now they are hi a critical position , and if they have not money of their own to purchase their lots , when it eomes for sale , their improvements are lost also . We saw a great many of them with small families nearly in a state of starvation , and they did not know how they were to get through the winter , and
were , very sorry they had ever any connexion with it ; but they were now placed , and could not better themselves in the meantime , and just taking what little flour and -pork were served out to them , as there was nothing else to give them . We were informed that there was to be a public meeting- on Saturday , tbe 17 th . to see what was to be done for them ; a good inaiiy attended , —a great many did not attend ; we were there , and heard all their proceedings , but of all the meetings ever we have seen we give it- the decree . There seemed to be two Parties , —the pnrtyin the store , and connected with it , " as we viewed it , " , were in great favour of Twigg , and thought he would return in the spring and make every one ri ght ; these were the parties reaping the benefit , if anything was to be got :
others were for the ri ghts of tbe society , to see and make some arran <; enieiits for their general satisfaction , and for the benefit of all . There was one man connected with Pottersville , came there to state his grievances , but Twigg * s party would not allow him to remain iu the meeting , " and ordered him out ; . we had an interview with him afterwards , and he told ns that himself , wife , and family had lived nine days without food of any kind but what he gathered from a neighbouring farmer ' s field of wheat and boiled it with water , and that was all they had to live upon during that time , which was hard enough indeed , and he was not alone . Mr . Scott rose and well lectured Twi gg and his party for misleading the people in the old conntry , and ' himself with the rest , m sending sncls ialse . reports regarding the land and
store provisions ; while some of them , who he pointed out , had wrote such false letters , and had never been on the land till after the letters were written , and that he " now felt ashamed to look men m the face whom he had been the indirect means of winging into sneh a condition . The ' storekeeper then rose up and made a poor defence for himself ; he said Twi gg had left him in charge when he went away , and he defied the whole society to touch an article , as he would imprison any one who attempted lL JEP *" * lie mem hers think of such conduct ? 3 «« l- J ? tm Robmson . from the Paislcv branch , bj tr rm Mr Scott in a way which was a * credit to the branch he belongs to , but . still to no purpose , as they ended nearly where they began , further than they formed a committee of inquiry , nine in number .
( including Messrs . Scott and liobinson ) ; but what is the use of it when all is consumed ?—we fear it is toolate . Weeoaid tell ' a great deal more if it were requisite . Wecousidered . it our duty to write and let yon all know the true state of'Pottersville , that they may jud ^ e for themselves . We would not wish onr greatest cnemiestojoin the society in its prc-*? t position . If any one wishes to come out to this country let them ' do so on their own account ; * ° e climate is healthy so far as we have expcr "weed it . We have just returned from the West , ^"" ghadatramp of 300 miles on foot . We now Wo & nde , and in the meantime we purpose ^ to keep D a covrespondence with some of the members , as ^ shali he anxious to bear the news , and we will " *« e in return . The above is a true statement of ™ at we have seen . Wit . Obr , Wm . Gejoiell .
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CHE "MTIONAL . PA RLIAMENTAR Y RE . ^ ORM ASSOCIATION . '' The ineetibg : to feeeive the leading members ' ana ™ M «» , 9 f this Ass ^ iation / on ' Wedhegaay evening week , at the ; Free-traded . Hall , was sufficlentlv notable inmoretban . one respect ., ,. It was ' remarkable for the absence of almost every public man of the slightest influence amongst us , whether of moderate or extreme politic *! opinions . The platform was deserted by even the more influential and active merabers '( of * ' the league , " and of its successor here , "The . Financial Reform Association ' ; ''' and both the principal speakers , and the principal auditors of the evening—tbe gentlemen upon the platform—as will be seen by the list of names in the report of the meeting , were strangers in Manchester .
Another c lrious feature in the proceedings was the nice skill manifested by the several speaker ? , in that t > p ration which na ' utical men call sailing close to the wind . The National ' Reform Association agU tailors ' avowed themselves all-aut-Chattists ; one cf theta—Mr . ' , Henry "Vincent—is known to go the whole length of "the six points ; " but in order to catch , as they ; vainly hoped , a favouring breeze from middle-class opinions / the speakers , throughout , their experimental trip iu the Free-trade Hall , tacked'from time to time with the greatest care , and were particularly assiduous to sooth tbe fears of the timid , by assuring them that , under the . particular extension of the . suffrage of their advocacy , rank and
wealth , virtue and moral worth , would have as large an influence with the " constituencies as ' at present . . Well ; all seemed smooth sailing ; popular plaudits supplied to each orator in turn ''the favouring gale , " that bore him onwards in his argumentwhen , lo ! just as the last of the squadron had reached port , an untoward squall arose , which did no small damage to these crafts , in the estimation ol the quiet on-looking bystanders . T / p rose Mr . W . P , Roberts , in all the dignities of the " Pi ople ' s Attorney-General" to thank the orators : for their speeches ; and in doing so . he said : that— " He bad never , in the course of his life , beat d more thoroughgoing Chartist sentiments , than had fallen from those who had addressed the meetin ? . It was well
for us that those gentlemen , should come forward and proclaim . themselves . as they had done ; they alone ' were allowed to do it . For uttering sentiments not one whit more seditious—not approaching the amount of sedition he had heard from that platform that ni ght—scores of Englishmen were now in gaol . ' * And be added— " It was plain from , what they heard that night , that there was no difference betw-ten the Chartists and the members of theNat'onal R form Associationi : there . ' mig ht be a differe ce of ' name , but he did . " not care for that ; h & l ad Only spoken of a same , when there had been a party a-king the Charlists . to give up : their name- ^ and that they never would do . But , in principle , there I was not the slightest difference between them . "
We are certain- that no one who will take the trouble lb read the speeches of Sir . Iashua \ Yalmer ley , Mr . G . Thompson ( which , as an attack en the House of Commons especially , we have never heard surpassed , ) Mr . Edward Miall , au 4 Mr . ; . Henry Vincent , can fail to arrive ; at . the , same conclusions as Mr . Roberts ; who , from his peculiar position ought to knoir , as well as most persons , what , is , and what is : not , Chartism . ; Bat , though Mr . Roberts ' s observations , fell Ike « hand-grenade amongst those whom he called " the £ ehtl ; men behind him , " not one of the speakers whom he thanked ventured to deny " the soft impeacbmeni ' , ' , with which sbat vote of thanks wasso maladroiily conplsd . Mr . . Miall avowed that he had imbibed and advocated . all the principles of the People ' s Charter , before that Charter was framed or thought o-. - ... ...
Mr .-Wilkinson , the treasurer of the association , in a sort of official protest , said it was qu te true tiiat * . many members of the association . were , in favour' of Universal-Sncvage , and it was equally true tbai'there . were many who werenot . But each was expected ; to concede something of . bis extreme views , for the sake of . the common advantage . And he thus continued— " He wished to- have no approval of the association , on the ground that it was going for the principles of the Charter ; because he .
believ « d that to do so would deprive it of all its usefulness . The Charter had been struggled for a long time , but bad not succede ' d ; and . the association were notgoing for the Charier , but for something perhaps as good , and which they believed could he more . easily obtained . . It would damage them exceedingly in the public mind , which they were anxious to conciliate , if it were thought that they had conceded this principle , and if it were thought that they had become , as some of their friends seemed to think . Chartists . "
. And , in acknowledging Mr . Robert ' s vote ol thanks , Mr . George Thompson by no means repudiated the imputation that he was a Chartist ; but , on thecoritrary , urged that he was no fledging tdvocate in the cause of the unrepresented narees ;—"He had never held any other opinions than be had avowed that night ; he learned them net from the Charter ; but , before the . Charter ' was Conceived , he read them in the Cbarttr given by : our Common Maker to all his children , who in His sig ht were equal . '' .
•• ; And , lest this should not be deemed sufficiently exnlicit , he added—* ' He was-not ashamed to come there—bis antecedents would hear inspection ; and as he had said before he said again , no . Chartist in this realm ever maintained , through evil and good report , the principles which those Chartists now held , with' greater integrity and with greater fearlessness , than , he ( Mr . Thompson ) -bad done . " We have , here , then , an organised association , which , according to its president , has already held 120 public meetings for agitatin g in various parts of the kingdom ;—putting forward as its ostensible princi p les a tenemehtirating Franchise ,. Vote by
Ballot , Triennial Parliaments , Equal Electoral Districts , and N 6 Property Qualification for members ; — but whose chief advocates , when brought to the test , are all six-point Chartists ! . It it welltbat this test bas been applied ; it removes the thin veil -- which mi ght otherwise have concealed from many honest and we 1-meauing but somewhat fast-going reformers , tiiat ultimate object , to w ich it forms no ' part of their , own . aspirations to attain . Universal Suffrage men , asking for a Property Qualification for electors , while , they would exempt the elected from all such responsibility ; advocates of annual , parliaments , affecting to ; be satisfied with triennial ; such are some of the
anomalous and inconsistent positions in which this association would place its members . But " more remains behind , " and those' who , thanks to Mr . Roberts , have been favoured with a peep behind the scenes , must he blest with ai , large amount of gullibility , if this does not suffice to disgust , them * iib the farce performing before the audience . — Manchester Guardian-
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DlSTDuBANCES AilOKG THE WESLEYASS AT BttlBTOK . —A terrible disturbance took place on ; Tuesday iii g ht , at the Langton-steet , Wesleyan ; Chape ) , Bristol . It would seem that the Rev . Messrs .-Dunn and Griffiths , two of the expelled IVesIeyan ministers , having made preparattons . for preaching in that city , the Rev ., the President ofthe Conference . Mr . Jackson , invited the members of the Bristol South Circuit to meet . him . at the Lan ^ ton-strect Chapel , with a view of hearing from him an explanation of the matters in dispute , and avindicar tion of the conference policy . The admission bavin ? been by ticket of membership , tho . full particulars of what " occurred within ; the walls-of the sacred edifice have not transpired ,. but it is known that
there was a very great disturbance , in the course of which ( as some contend prematurely ) the polico of the Bedminster division . were sent for . As soon as the " president and some of the ministers ascended the platform , they were assailed with loud cries for the admission of "Mr . Dunn . " The president attempted ta speak , but not a word . could be heard from the incessant clamour of . the majority of tlie congregation , who demanded the admission . of - the expeUed . ministers . . Other ministersitried to get a hearings but with . no more success , while Mr . Griffiths , a brother . of the expeUed minister , who applied that he might bo admitted . to hear the
charges against him , ; were heard with tolerable patience ^ as [ weresome other parties who spoke on the other side . -The president and others at length declared , the meetrngs dissolved , and loft tho build-% ™? . Piou sly given notice that a meeting of the ^ orth Circuit ,: announced for tho following evening , , at Ebenezer Chapel , would ' . not be - * g tempted ... The aflair has caused a good deal ofekcitement . among , the . religious bodies of the citv and on Tuesday . nightMr . Dunn preached at Bridcrcstreet ( Independent ) ,. arid-Mr . Grimths at LodKestreet { Independent ) Chapel , both of which places of worship werecrammed to the doors , many hun- dreds being turned away .. . ij
The Woabs "kersey , "Jinsey , " " worsted , " are borrowed from villages in the south-east of England . "Blanket" was the name ofa Bristol man the first weaver of blanket ^ '¦ ; .. " ,,:. „ ; Taxes 'bar , the "Times . "— ' Tii ' e " . limes gives its taxesasrattier more than fl & jOOO ^ jrear . for the paper , £ 60 , 000 . a-year for ' the stamps , and £ 12 , 000 a-year for ' the adveitjseruejtfs : total , £ §?} 000 a-year .
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: Z ' ; .- ' » :. T-koNDAT , Fsb . m 8 ; v V ' . ' ;! ' - * t HOUSE OP LORDS . —The Duke qf / RiCHMOND presented a petition from Rochdale , against the relay system in factories , and praying that the principle of tbe Ten Hours Act should , be carried nut . - Acts , of Pakxiamrnt -Abbreviation Bill . — On the motion of Lord ; BROUGHAM this bill was read a second time . Orange Processions . —Dollt ' s Brae . —Lord Stanley moved for copies of correspondence between the chief magistrate of * Armagh and the Executive Government in June and July , 1846 , and also for a variety of papers relating to the collision which took
place in Castlevrellan , in JTuly last . In doing so , his lordship observed , that he . should feel it his duty to bring matters of importance under their lordships ' notice , as affecting the due administration of justice —the independence of the magistracy—and the public conduct of persons iii highoffice . While reviewinu the , conduct of ; the . Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland , —which in this transaction he considered erroneous —he was ready to admit that the noble earl had been actuated by a desire to perform his duty for the welfare of the country . He should also have to impugn the conduct of the Lord Chancellor of Ireland , in having permitted his office to be degraded into a purely ministerial office , and having abandoned the magistracy , which he was bound to protect . After
expressing his disapprobation of party processions in Ireland , either on one side or another—a feeling which he knew Lord Roden shared—and stating Ills belief that the . Orangemen were in the main loyal and religious people , he proceeded to describe in detail the circumstances ofthe collision which occurred last year at Dolly ' s Brae . He contended that neither the justices nor the stipendiary magistrates had reason to believe that the procession was illegal , or thought to be illegal by the government . He afterwards referred . to the correspondence between the chief magistrate of Armagh and the Irish Govemnient , with tbe view of showing that . it . was calculated toleiid the magistrates to the conclusion- that Oranee processions were not illegal . He complained of the
garbled nature of the report given by Mr . Berwick of the evidence taken before the Commission nf , Inquiry , aiid put it to the government whether , in 1848 , they did not rejoice in the demonstration of the force and numbers of the Orangemen , who were then intrusted with arms by the command of Sir E Blackney . With respect to Mr . William Beers , their might be a prima facie case for his removal from the commission of the peace , but Mr , Ft Beers was most anxious to prevent any collision ; he gave information to the inspector of tbe police ; by the latter he was requested to be on the spot , and for being on the spot he was summarily dismissed from the commission . Mr . Berwick ' s commission was more liable to the suspicion of illegality than the procession , and some ofthe
facts testified to by the . witnesses were not , as Lord Stanley contended , fairly represented by Mr . Berwick . Referring to . the presence of Lord Rddcn at the Castlewellan petty sessions when informations were preferred arising out of the collision , he nuintained that though it might have been discreet for Lord Roden to have been absent , yet his attendance in the ordinary discharge of Lis duty formed no vin « dicttion . fpr hjs removal from the commission of the peace > and it likewise appeared from the evidence in support of the informations , that the magistrates exercised a sound judgment in refusing the informations . He considered tbe Lord Chancellor of Ireland had acted uhconstitntiqnally . in summarily dismissing magistrate ? , simply at the dictation of : the
Lord-Lieutenant . of Ireland , and this proceeding had created " a" feeling among the magistrates that their position was dependent on the caprice of the political chiefoftheday ; had " irritated , by the dismissal of magistrates of irreproachable character , a most loyal body ; and bad called forth expressions . of syinp-ithy and rr-spect in favour of Lord Roden .- Besides being uncbnstitutionalj that act was arbitrary and unjust . In conclusion , he stated that he abstained from moving a direct vote of censure ,, because he wished that this great constitutional question should be kept apart from any party conflict . The Earl of Clarendon had travelled from Ireland , leaving bublic . business . much ; delayed by his absence , out of compliment to their , lordships' house ,
and to answer " a formal challenge , to decline which might have rendered ^ him liable to misconstruction ; But he protested against converting this instance into a precedent , or placing . the members of ^ executive at the mercy of every leader of . the opposition who might . choose to question his official conduct . The point of view in which parly processions had been regarded since 1815 was not that they were ipso facto illegal , bu ~ . only liable to become so , as resulting so frequently in breaches of the peace . - Governmems of which Lord Stanley was a member had pursued a similar course in cashiering magistrates to that which his lordship now characterised as arbitrary and unconstitutional . For years "it had been his ( Lord Clarendon ' s ) object to put down all party precessions
indiscriminately , or to provide for the absence of dangerous weapons ambiig the parties taking : part , in them . Following Lord Stanley through Che events of July , the 12 th , at Dolly ' s' Brae , the noble earl showed that many warnings had been given of the consequences likely to ensue from a persistence , in holding the procession , or of taking the route which was r . evertheless adopted . That such results ultimately appeared proved a charge of laches against the magisterial authorities who might have prevented them , but , though present had omitted to inte- fere . Concerning the atrocities that followed the repulse of the Ribbon party Lord Clarendon ' readmuch documentary evidence , provir-g that they were far more flagrant than had appeared from Lord Stanley ' s
slighting mention . Even although processions , nete not illegal the magistrates who held aloof while proceedings so ' dangerous and . finally so fatal were being planned , had shown themselves unfit'for the exercise of their high functions . ' . His lordship then vindicated the conduct and character of . Mr . Berwick . That gentleman was selected- to carry rn the inquiry lecause he was acute and yet " no parti 2 an ,, and ; had justified the selection . The circumstances related in the report of Mri Berwick were acted upon with great pain and reluctance .- ' They' had involved the dismissal of a noble lord ( Roden ) who had been often useful as a magistrate , atidwas esteemed as a friend . All personal feelings and indtives of convenience would liave induced him to ; abstain from that Step
, butthey had succumbed to the dictates of duty anil to the ^ determination to assert the impartiality of ! the law . - ^ Tliat the inquiry itself was hot illegal and unconstitutional , as Lord Stanley had disignated it , ! the noble earl proved by many precedents and arguments . Mr ; Berwick was in the commission ofthe peace , » nd -had while conducting the" investigation simply exercised the powers conferred on him by the ; veiy words of the statute . . In vindication ofthe accuracy of his report . Lord Clarendon showed that the reportrelied on by Lord Stanley were prepared for Orange newspapers , and falsified in many importaritparticulars , and gave- an . indignant denial to the accusations brought' against Mr . ; ' ' Berwick ' s character for probity and impartiality in drawing up his official
documents . ' WJijle professingto disdain the task of refuting the miscellaneous libellers who had attacked him in- every shape since the occurrence , the noble earl 'proceeded to femiirk upon the formal . charge authenticated by the signature ofa peer , and accusing him of having courted the Orange party , and offering them amis during the first apprehensions p » rebellion . Early in 1848 J he observed ; requests for arms were s nt in to the governmentby various loyal bodies , and it was true that in entertaining those requests-no very " stringent inquiry , was made into the religious tenets of the requisitioriists . ' But there re ; quests-were refused when united with certain party nroprsitions from members of the ; Orange lodges ,
who were the only parties that' seemed inclined ; td turn their loyalty to accunt . Lord Clarendon then allnded to . ihe celebrated loan * or gift of £ 600 from Captaiii Kennedy for arms , which he declared tb have bt en a strictly private transaction on tbe part of the captain ; ' and read some letters from that officer : in support of his declaration j expressing a regret that the subject should have been as-ain opened for discussion .- The noble earl informed their lordships officially . that : -Ireland was ' unusually free , from sectarian spirit and political hostility , . and concluded by calling-ion' them to accept the measures , for abolishing party processions now ; lying before the other branch of the ligislature . . . *' ... .
Lord RonEN thought be had been harshly treated by the government and the Lord-Lieutenant . Within ten days of the Dolly Brae ' s affitir he had written to Lord Clarendon expressing his regret and sympathy ; and placing his commission at the disposal of the government . To that letter he received a friendly replv disclaiming any idea of his dismissal , and he heard nothing more from the Castle until , on the 7 th of October , an official missive arrived anuounceingthat be had been surnmarjlr , superseded as a ma-iiistrate ' . ' Three charges ' wereiaid against him—of
having abetted an illegal processioir ; of omitting to interfere to prevent bloodshed ; and of having sat as a magistrate in judgment in his owhcase . These charges the noble b'rd went on to rebut , stating that he had already received punislimeht without a trial uponth ' . m . His lordship then entered in a minute detail of Iris conduct during and , after the Orange procession of July 12 , and brought a charge of persecution against the government . ' . . . j The Earl of . Wischhsea ; thoiight the conduct of Lord Clarendon arbitrary und inconsistent ..
Lord Brougham hoped that hereafter som e surer ground would be shown for the reliance which her Majesty . expressed , in the royal speech , upon tliegood sense ofthe people of Ireland . Turning tothe legal question , he ; said that certain acts and meetings miiht beperfectly lawful * but in the number if those who attended danger might lie ; and that danger constituted a degree of illegality involving a . very serious responsibiiity . to ; all who were assisting , In processionsJike , those at Dolly ' s' Brae , collisions were always eminen tly probable . ! -And as a ' collision remitted , the : presence ofboth > parties ^ it was impossible for ohe party : todisclaim all' the guilt of the catastrophei by throwing , it ' upon their opponentp , Ho gave it as bis judgment that thei
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prsceas ofthe ; - Removal , of ., Lord ; Roden- « nd the Messrs . BeeVs from the , magistracy . was not : unconstitutipnal .: , Th ^ peace ., of rlTeland ; -was endangered ^ y gW jng power to , men who were zealous ; in wrong doing , andr sanctioned acts of the . most , perilous nature , while actuated by the , purest motives . ¦ 'Irk these part y processions the members took up their Bibles ,-ahd ; . their ' blunderbusses and went to a picnic . If anything was left at home it ; wasnotthe weapons . He concluded- that on the : whole perfect justice had been done by the government and Lord Clarendon . . ' . . '
_ After some observations : from the Marquis of Clakricarde , who- declared that Lord Clarendon had tbe entire approbation of the government for the . manner in which , he had : acted in the affair brought under ; the . notice of the house , and from Lord Abmger , who stated that he had not been able to collect why Lord Roden was dismissed from the commission of the peace . . Lord Stanley replied . He was satisfied with the result of the debate , and ^ believed that the country would share that satisfaction . He doubted the authority on which the truth of hia version of tho Dolly ' s Brae report had been questioned , and retained full confidence in his own witnesses . His lordship concluded by declaring his own strenuous disapprobation of all party processions , and especially of the Orange organisations and parades . Tne motion , which was for the production of papers , was then agreed to , and their lordships adjourned at one o ' clock .
HOUSE OF COMMONS . — Privilege . — Mr . O'CoSNOnwishedtoask this Speaker whether , as the hon , and learned member for Sheffield had brought certain charge < against his ( Mn O'Connor ' s ) character in another place , there was any course open to him , by moving the adjournment of the house or otherwise , to reply to the accusation in the house t The Speaker knew of no course which would enable ; the . hon . and -learned gentleman to bring the matter before the house . : ¦; Affairs of Denmark . — Lord : pALMEnsToN , in rep ' y to a question ,. stated that tlie Danish ;
eovernment had consented to the renewal of the armistice of , 'Ju ' y Jast , unon certain conditions , now under consideration at Frankfort and Berlin ^ and that in the meantime the armistice was virtually prolonged . Business Q ? the Hobsb . — -Alter discussions and divisions , in " the course of which members of all parties complained bitterly that the time allowed to private members for' introducing business was gradually but steadily abridged ^ hy the government , Lord John Russblij , succeeded in carrying a motion that on Thursday , Hth April , and . every alternate Thursday following , the government business shall have precedence .
Australian : Colonies Bill . — Mr . Hawes moved the second reading of the Australian Colonies ¦
Bill .. ' ; - . , -- .. . ..- : .,: ;¦ . . ,-.- . ¦;• Mr . ScoTx thought it : the duty of every state to give its dependencies constitutions like its own . Our proposed Australian constitution , on the other hand , rather resembled the single chambered republi i in France . He was altogether in favour of giving the colony the full , -benefit-of popular representation , secured by a double co-ordinate chamber . He moved the pos'ponement of the bill until further papers were produced . ' ,-., Mr- LaboUchebe believed that the proposed constitution would work well and efficiently . The colonists might form another , fur themselves hereafter if they wished to extend the principle of representation . : '
. . j \ ir . iioEBUCK ooiectea tnac tne measure wouiu practically place , the legislative , administration of Australia in the hands of government nominees . They ought to plant liberal institutions at once in the colony without forcing upon its inhabitants the agony of a contest in : order to obtain thent . Lqrd J . Rvssell charged the hon . member with historical . inaccuracy ; •! The constitution proposed for , New South Wales ; was but ; the extension and popularisation of the one that had existed there for some years . It was not the fact that the colonists had seriously objected to that constitution . ' -By the , present system the crown possessed tho power
of introducing an assembly and council as elements in the administration of . any colony , and needed hot ,. . if ithey had so pleased , to have required the sanction , of parliament to : the measure . It was the system in theory that all our dependencies were to have a governor , a council , and an assembly , even as in England there were the Queen , Lords , and Commons . But in sneh communities , it was not easy to provide a second ohambev that should possess any influence in tho country—or , on the other hand , it might happen that the single chamber would prove more democratic than the double one ..
A long discussion ensued , in the course of which an almost unanimous opinion in favour of a double chamber was expressed , after which the house inconsistently carried the second reading without a division , and consequently the single chamber to which it is opposed . ; Tub ; Distressed Union Advances ( Ireland ) Bill was also read a second time , after a few words from Col . SiBTiioHp and Mr . P . Scbope , followed by a brief explanation from Lord J . Russell , TliSr house then went into committee on the FAitTT Procession ( Ireland ) Bill , on which a few verbal amendments were made without any discussion . , '•¦
Landiokd . . an » : ; Tenant . ( Ireland ) Bill .- —Sir w . Someeville introduced his . bill-for- providing compensation to tenants , for j improvements , and for tnnending the . law of landlord and tenant in Ireland . The measure was founded in a great degree upon a bill that passed the lords' committee in 1848 . Some important clauses were , however , now added , Ono of these ; was designed to prevent the carrying off of crops by night from the ground ; Postponing any , further discussion until members had read the billwhich he placed on the table , the hon . baronet expressed bis belief that it would be found as complete andjyet as . moderate as it was possible to make it ., . ¦¦ ¦; - . ¦< :. ; . After a few words from- Lord Castlereaou , Mr . M . O'Connell , and Colonel Dunne , leave was given and the bill brought in and read a first time .
The Committee on Public Libraries was afterwards nominated and the house adjourned a few minutes before midnight . ' .:: "" .,. . TUESDAY , Februam 19 . IIQUSE OF LORDS . —The Railways Abandonment Bill was read a second time , and referred toa selectcommittee . The Earl of Glbnoall introduced a bill for facilitating the transfer ot land in Ireland , which was read a first time . ; • ¦ • HOUSE- OF COMMONS . —A number of ' petb tions were presented from various agricultural districts , prayingfor a restoration of protection . One of those - petitions has arrived from Devonshire , bearing more than 15 , 000 signatures . ' . Tub Lvcosru Tax . —Mr . IIenlet observed that , under various clauses of the income tax , the amount levied upon real property was fixed upon an average
of the produce during three years . Now , the last valuation had been ' made in 1848 , since which time the owners of real property—at all events of landed property—had been ' subjected to a great alteration in the value of that property . ' ( Hear , hear . ) Now , what he wished to ask was , whether it was the intention of the government , either by legislative measures or otherwise , to give power to parties SO circumstanced- to ' avail themselves of any reduction of income which might have happened to them—to avail'themselves of that by paying a diminished amount of income tax ? ' ( Hear . ) He also wished to ask whether hnythingwas to bo done for tenants -under ' schedule ; B who were unable to get a reduction of . income tax although thoy had obtained a
reduction of rent . ' ( Hear . ) '' ,, '"' .. " Lord Jj It ' ussKLL 'said that it was ; not the intention of her Majesty ' s ' government' to propose , " any alteration in- the income tax . ' Of course aiiy relief to which parties might be entitled under tho ' act would be accorded to'them . ¦ ¦ ¦¦¦ - Poor Law Burdens upon Land . —Mr . Disraeli , in pursuance of his notice , moved for , a committee of the whole house , to consider' such a ; revision of the poor laws as might mitigate the distress of the agricultural interest .-He lamented the continuance of agriculturnl distress , - and the diminution of the farmers ' means to maintain the amount of the employment they had bestowed upon the labourer , and much of which had for some time past
been"factitious . Adverting to the poor law ' tho hon . member admitted that the management of that department hadmerited thocorifiderice of the country . But unexampled distress existed and must be somehow relieved ; Oh . ' ¦ that ( the Protectionist ) side of the house this-distress was attributed to recent legislation ! and its removal ; chiefly expected by the return to the principles that had ; been . ' aba ' iidoncd . It was , however , not expedient to convert that house intoa mere debating society ; and ho would not , therefore , re-open ' a discussion which , as tho division lists in both branches of the legislature had proved , could not lend to any remedial measures during the present parliament . An . alternative now loomed over the country : If protection . was denied to the cultivators of the soil , injustice they could demand that their taxation should be adapted to their altered circumstances . There were masses of taxation that
fell almost exclusively upon the agriculturists ; and fiscal restrictions that . fettered their industry . Even in the presence of a majority of economists he did not despair of finding a response to this appeal for justice . The hon . member then reviewed in detail the various classes of tax . and rates . concerning which he had resolutions to propose . These rates ho argued , even by the admigsiqnof Mr ; Hume , fell in great measure ' upon the occupier and tiller of the land . ' , ' He assorted the paramount importance of the' territorial population , and . its value as a creator of . wealth and . pyesei . ver of order , and appealed froni tl ( e judgment of tho house to that of the country in denial ofthe dogma that land was to bo lumped , up ^ - ^ ith bther , ra ^ v materials . of labour . •; . Yet even accepting that ' dogma , he argued that Other raw materials were more favoured by the legislature than the land . Tho margin of pi *
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fit afforded by . ' the remission- he ¦ should propose would redeem large districts from impending abandonment and sterility . The h 6 h . member 1 then , lectured upon the subject of rentj arid' vindicate ! tho landlord class from the srie ^ r which stigmatised ifas limited / luxurious ^ and useless . Its ' number ' s Wore 250 ; 000 . Of these 20 , 000 who possessed manors mig ht ; be'called an aristocracy . '; tho rest , oleveritwolfths of tho whole , were strictly democratic . The total rental of England was sixty millions affording £ 240 on an average to . each proprietor—a sum that gave little room for luxury . Beginning with local taxation , he stated at twelve millions the amount of the secondary branch of the reversion , which , though appropriated to general
purposes , was levied in an unjust proportion from tho soil . The land tax had contributed one hundred millions to the national exchequer , as to the inci denco and amount of the poor rate , since 1800 tlie land had paid to that rate 581 millions against 159 millibnsraised upon other species ot property . The maintenance of the poor was both a matter of polico and of social duty . Either purpose was one of common interest , and should be' defrayed by the contribution of every class . That a large proportion Of the property should escape paying its due share was an act of flagrant injustice . The argument that land was bought or inherited , subject to these burdens , had often perplexed when it had not convinced , but it was not true , nor , as matter of
principle , was it just ? If a tax was impolitic or unfair ; the circumstance of the inheritance was insignificant . Might ib not happen that , together with its burdens , the land enjoyed the protection of laws which gave its produce an adventitious value ? The objection that an interference with these taxes would embarrass the system of local administration , was equally fallacious . Tho hon . member then promised " a series of measures" calculated to remedy the injustice he complained of . Ohe of this series related to the poor rate , and would be submitted to the house if it would consent that night to go into committee . He should , in that case , prOpOSO a large remission of the charges upon the land for pauperism . The establishment charges ,
amounting to-one million and a half , he should propose to transfer to the consolidated fund . The same course he should suggest for tho accessory charges , { . uch as the registration expenses , the jury ponals , sanitary reforms , and other miscellaneous assessments now raised by the poor law machinery from the real property of the kingdom . These rates amounted for the United Kingdom . to more than £ 700 , 000 per annum . A third resolution would embody a proposal for the transference to the general revenue of the charge for maintaining the casual poor . All these changes he should propose to commence from the 25 th of next March . They were
uncieniaoiy just ; their cost eame within the limits of the much boasted surplus in the Treasury ; and their introduction would inaugurate a happy system of justice to the ill-used agricultural interests . He hoped that Ministers would not be deterred from an act of justice by the fear of giving a triumph to their : political adversaries . Asserting his belief in the desire of the house to do justice , he concluded ( amidst the loudest "' Opposition cheers ) a speech of nearly two hours , by exhorting parliament so to act that our children might not despair of the institutions of the country . The motion was seconded by Col . Sihtuorp .
Sir , G . Gbet rejoiced that the mountains which had been prophesiedin so many county meetings had resulted in so harmless a proposition as that of Mr . Disraeli . It was a great kindness to the farmers ^ to remove trom their minds the mischievous impression that protection could be restored . It was equally kind towards the house to save its time from wasting in useless discussions , by admitting the hopelessness of any reversal of its recent commercial measures .- The hon . member had based his demands upon . an assumption of agricultural distress . In proof of that assumption , he had alleged that since , the date of the last poor-law returns , on the 5 th ef January last , a great increase had taken place in the cost of pauperism . That allegation was altogether fallacious . Distress , ' the hon .
baronet would not deny to exist ; but he denied that it had increased . The returns of crime and pauperism were tho best tests , and both concurred in proving that destitution had diminished since 1848 . To establish this point , Sir G . Grey quoted many documents , comprising reports from the Middlesex and Quarter Sessions ; and from poorlaw I ' authorities in Ireland and Scotland ,. Iii passing , on to . the proposition of Mr . Disraeli , the hon . baronet signalised the important omission of any reference-to the law of settlement . This law as if existed he admitted to bear heavily against the landed interest , and recommended tho subject tothe attention of those who had constituted themselves the protectors of British industry .
The proposals that were made Were founded upon a confusion of all descriptions of real property with landed idterest . . Difficulties had always stood in the way of fairly rating personal and trading properties ; . These difficulties were still insurmountable ; : ; But the burthens complained of were decreasing . Since 1813 the amount raised for tho poor and county rates had diminished by nearly a hlillioil , while the population upon whom it was assessed had expended from ten to seventeen millions , and tho value of the real property chargeable had increased from fifty to ninety-one millions . Of this the land bore a rated value of only forty-three millions . The rest consisted of houses , railways , and various other forms of realised property . Land had
nevertheless not decreased in absolute , but only in relative-value ^ and , as was thus proved , had in no degree gone out of cultivation . . These' figures disposed of the allegation of injustice to the land in the incidence of local taxation . Sir G . ' Grey then commented upon Mr . Disraeli ' s several proposals . Instead ofa million-and a half , the establishment charges of England were , last year , £ 700 , 000 . If this , was withdrawn from local checks , considerable danger of extravagance would be incurred . Much ; the i same mi ght be said ofthe other charges included in the propositions . But on this point the hon . baronet ; would not , on the instant , declare what the government might determine when thoy came to decide what was to be done with the surplus revenue . Ho denied , however , that they
differed materially in principle from other items of local taxation , The charge for'thb relief of the casual poor , it was highly inexpedient to remove from the local control which had effected recently a considerable economy in its distribution ; Altogether , he characterised the propositions as narrow and immature . Thoy would purchase , at a ; cost of much trouble and complication , a relief not exceeding threepence in the pound on the aggregate rates . 'Even this modicum of benefit would be monopolised by tho landowner . The hon . baronet concluded b y challenging Mr . Disraeli to reveal a little more of--the threatened series—whose first member had turned out so inauspiciously , and asked what had become of his sinking fund and the ad valorem duty .
- The Hon , F . W . Charteris preferred an ' appeal for justice to a suit in forma pauperis . Capital , stock in trade , and funded properties did not pay their fair proportion of the taxes . If the Legislature could not contrive an equitable rating the landed interest could justly require a-measure of compensation . They asked no favour , but a' right . Mr . Anderson , ( who had given ; notice of an amendment upon Mr . Disraeli ' s' motion ) inade a long speech , supported by a number of documents , to prove , from / the details ' of taxation , that Mr . Disraeli ' s ! statement as to the burthens upon land were unfounded .
Mr . Setmkr-said that-farmers were not in the habit of talking treason ,- -but in these times you must not look for any romantic feelings , for a sense of loyalty now was closely connected with a sense of well-being , in the match playing' between All England and Lancashire ,: wouldt . take the side of All England and . believed ho should win . He stood by his class , which was tho most important in the country . If the agricultural party bowled ; well ho anticipated a return to protection before the close of the
session . Mr . Eice deprecated any idea of a return to protection , but if tho agriculturists had only asked to be relieved from local burthens ho would have supported the motion . He thought myich of the Incorn-tax and the Exise duties very unjust , and that much mi ght he done to relieve the landed interest , but it ought to be after inquiry . ; Sib John Tyrell wusns well satisfied with the last speaker as be ; could bo with himself , but supposed he was speaking with a view to another election ; at Dover . The agricultural interest complained of receiving great . * desrespect from the First ; Minister . The real feeling in reference to the prosperity of free trade was the same ns wc felt when we heard that ' a thief had broken into
the larder , and robbed the till . " The agriculturists considered free trade as a b ygone question as regarded that house , and they looked "elsewhere . " Mr . Villiers was a " destroyer , " but Mi-. Cobdcn was a " divider of the spoil , " and ought to be in Office ; and he ( Sir John ) begged to ask Lord John Russell whether it had been offered to him , Sir John then complained that Lord John smiled , but that tho expression of his countenance Was a riddle . After keeping the house in exceeding good humour ' . for some tithe , Sir John complained that the middle of Sir George Grey ' s speech was read in Thi . Morning Chronicle of . tho morning preceding its delivery , and'declared that the Protectionists
had . ' . ' qualifications" for obtaining justice , ' and ; by Heavens ; they' would use them . ¦>• •¦¦¦;¦ ? Mr . ' HonnousF / said that if the Opposition had some time ago been as content with a fixed duty ns , they now would 1 beithey wOuld have been ' ' enjoying protection at the present time . Ho opposed the motion ^ - . on . the ground that it was impossible to relieve inequalities'of taxation ! l U 1 J ' , . "' : ' ' -i Lord John Manners supported tho ' -motipn , and pbjeoted-to- $ ir'George Grey ' s statistics- of crime , which , however , he said ^ showed that agriculturists in distress : were less turbulent than manufacturers in the same condition . He defended Protectionists against inconsistency in trying to get an instalment
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of the justice ' due , totthem . , He supported tha details of Mr . Disraeli's , plan , especially urging the injustice of casting thereuef of the ' casual . popr— -by which he njeaht . vagrants , who were . chiefly iron * large towns—upon the poor-rates .. He concluded by h' 6 pin « - that the resolutions would : be 7 : pa * sed iri committee , and that / this and . the . sister ; kingdom would unite "in' gratitude for ; a . common justice , ' - ¦ - ¦¦ '" ,. ' . " , '' ¦' ' ¦ ¦ ,. ' Mr . Bright congratulated Mr . Disraeli . on the improvement in practicability and absence of mystification shown in his propositions . " Yet , hia positions were ; untenable . Distress was alleged ; nevertheless many farms were producing . a ; profit .
and the value of the fee of the land . in no instance became depreciated . ' Other property . fluctuated , mines , houses , and railwav shares hail suffered utior incautious legislation , Under pretext of saving trouble , the member , for Buckinghamshire r » rudently declined to . ask for . ' tho poor law returns , which would have told so much against him . Crime , during years of high prices , lamentabl ' increased , involving a terrible responsibility upoii ' any attempts to raise the cost of food . If the propositions were not expedient in themselves , the abolition of the corn duties formed . no justification for tiiem . They would occasion a transference o * . ' two > millions a year from real property to those ir-lustrial employments which were already lit-ivily
taxed . -How could these proposals satisfy the clamour which the Protectionists had so . busily excited during the recess ? The self-called farmers * friends did not attempt to remove the farmers ' taxes . by taking off the duties on tea , tobacco , and malt . Nor did they speak one word about reforming the eame laws , or appear willing to suppon the tenant compensation lately introduced int ' - 'the house . The true prosperity of the cultivator and the landlord would spring from the expansion of industry , the increase of population , the improvement in wages , and the reduction of crimo and pauperism—results that were rapidly following as legitimate consequences of free trade , The i ' . on , ' member , in conclusion , thus addressed the
Pre'ectionist landlords : — " You have ruled in past „ ime 3 in tho house with an undisputed sway . - ( H-.-ar , hear !) ' You have been in the habit on the hu > i : ngs of teaching the people ' that you came ho .- ' . ' to promote agricultural prosperity and to mainuin a high price for corn . ( "Hear , " and " oh . " ) As sensible men , I would say to you , get rid of this habit as soon as possible . ( Cheers and . laughter . ) Well would it be for you if all the ' volumes of Han-Sard for the last ten years could be burnt . ( Ii-. v . ical cheers from the Protectionists . ) Tor then yeur children and grandchildren could never have tha opportunity of reading the" speeches you have mado in this house . ( Cheers . ) , I am convinced that the proposition ofthe hon ' . gentleman coi ; tainsi
within it . no element of benefit , improyemeno , or restitution , to the tenant farmer of this country , and that being rny opinion , I will be , no . part" to a proposition , the object of which ' is' to transfe * taxes from real property and lay them on t ' c / i industry of the country . ( Hear , hear . ) To ¦!) so would be to reverse the policy of the last ri-jvea years—a policy which has been pursued with advantage to the population , and which is tem ' ii ' . ig to > the permanent security of every valuable inst ' tiv . tion in the kingdom . ( Loud cheers . ) , Mr . Drummond thought it would require powers ! of mystification equal to those of the hon , luor-ibec who last spoke and the hon . gentleman who ;; iada the motion put together to persuade the fanners !
that they were not suffering deep distress . ( " II-Mr , " and a laugh . ) He for one could not be fairly charged with having raised a cry in the com .:. ' . / for the purpose of obtaining a revival of the pc-Vjy of some years past , for he had always . led the fiuTiiers to believe that we could not after the peace hope permanently to maintain prices higher ' . thai \ those of the continent . But the farmers had felt cUeply the injustice of having been made instrume ; c . » l ins lifting af action into power on their-shoulder ; :, and then being kicked down as useless . Farmers and yeomen were plain-spoken men and called things by their right names , and they called such cei-ducfi treachery , and they said if there were any stai ^ ne » cessity for reversing the . poliey which both sides of the house had declared oyer and over agaiu ' , ) b 8
essential to the welfare of the country , that * oma provisions ought to have been made for -dealing with mortgages , settlements , fines , or rec-v-rals * and other arrangements which had been mr . ds on the faith of those declarations . ( Hear , hear . ; "I cant help , " saidjhe lion , member , contrast !" - ¦ tha way in wliich , tli " e manufacturing and trading interests have been ' trcated when they have come bofora you as supplicants , with the treatment whiah tha agriculturists have received and are reebiring . Were the manufacturers , sneered at ? , ( Oh- ,-ers . ) Were they laughed at and ridiculed as the agriculturists were for not understanding agricultural chemistry ? , ( Hear , hear . ) Did . notthehonoi ' rabla member for the West Riding tell us . the other riighfc
that all great discoverers ruined themselves but that afterwards another generation arose who profited thereby ? So that his argument was this-- * that the present race , of farmers . should-try $ ;• : peri « ments , fail , pass into tho workhouse , and let a better lot succeed them . - ( Great cheering . ) "Were tho manufacturers ever taunted in this house with ; their ignorance ? Yet is it not notorious tLit no English manufacturer ever yet made one Mngla useful discovery in arts or science ? ( Cheei-o froni j the protectionist benches . ) ; Wo have hcf . rd a good deal ' of the School of Manchester ., ( Lau ^ uEcr . ) What has it ever produced that was scientific or useful ? lias it any name in chemistry to bca . vo of 2 Can it point to a Foureroy ? ( Cheers and lavu- ' cler . )
Can they quote any Manchester rjian » factt : r « : who has written upon any scientific subject co .:. ; voted with his trade ? Why , sir , it is well kno ~ tT . ibafc they know no more of the chemical agents r ^ riired for their own print works ' . than . ' the blocks they use . ' ( Great laughter and cheers . ) Kay , ' Isi ' r , did we not take . pity upon their intense vulgariiv — ( a laugh ) — when they confessed that nothing bVt thg actual cheapness of their wares could find Muto as market , and that there was not a person in I /^ ropa who would not prefer the more artistic fcUij and the more beautiful fabrics of the French , or indeed even of the Chinese manufacturer '— ( loiid la ; . hterj drowning the remainder of the sentence . ) . . "' Yes ,
indeed it was so , and m m ' ei'cy wegaveyou ft iihool of design ; but so little have you profited by !¦; , that in tho last report of that school it is stated £ li : ! . ; you draw just as badly as ever . ( Laughter ; ' Free trade had promoted some manufactures bar destroyed others . It had annihilated the farming trade , cut' down half the value of , ' timber and " ; ark , and reduced the produce of all the land in E ; : Vland from eighty shillings to forty shillings a : i " . \ cre . The destruction of property on one side had ' , surpassed its increase , on another , " arid the i-holo system was one of '" class " legislation . Ti .-j proposals of the Free Traders to , remedy this were ridiculous . " When wo ask you , " tui . ' . Mr . Drummond , ' . ' what is to . be done for the " rural population ?"—you reply , "Ob , take tk- ' uxoff
advertisements . And why ? Because yo-u want to be puffed- in the newspapers . ( Che- ; rs ' and great laughter . ) Do yon ask that tho tax s ' aculd ba taken off beer ? ' Ifo . When a poor wet laboiu-cr —» ( a . laugh)—yes , out of the 810 working day > , about 250 are wet through —( shouts of laughter)—ri-tn a poor wet labourer comes cold and tired Mi ; hia homo , instead of a glass of ale , you give bin : ji newspaper . ( Laughter . ) Oh , yes , this is your ' . -r , i for the poor . ; When the hon . member for irJ . West Riding was recounting all that had . been gtdnect by free trade , he exclaimed— "See how clw ; - > preserved fruit Is . " " ( A laugh !) Preserved ;' r ' . itcue of the luxuries of what is called " gen to si life . " In other words the manufacturers have go- ; * . heir >
sugar-plums cheap . ' . ( Laughter . ) I hold thai . ¦ : very foreign trade employs foreign labourers anc ! :: o . s British . I say that you ought to have a duty 6 E ? - . erything which comes from a foreign country . ( Uear , hear , and " Oh , oh . " ) . Not only that , hue v i , intend to iusist . that wcslmll have a ri ght to * ovo out own barley as wo please—that the labourer shall have aright to pluck bishops from the hedgs , and use them : ia he likes—and that the peoc l > j " or Ireland , Lincolnshire , and the east of Yorksnir-3 . ahall have a right to grow tobacco if . they please . Until this be carried out , not a moment ' s peace aiil yoil have . ( Great laughter . ) You think that yo-:. hava settled free'trade . ( Hear , hear . ) Why , tb : ; only the first skirmish of tho battle . The strutgk' is to
be between capital and labour—it is to be b-.-lwcen , wealth and life , ' ( Hear , hear . ) You are t . hs advocates for money and capital , coute qui couto ; ^ ut I say , and we say , that tho labourer shall be : liowed to exist , ( Great cheering from tho ¦ ¦ Proteet-iov . istSj and ironical cheers from the Ministerial benches . ) The Manchester , school has made a great discovery . ' As honourable gentlemen are ' possibly , v . c-i well read in its . publications they -may-be surprised to hear this passage from ono of them —• •* We : ue not iin ' agricultural country . " Are we ; not , ; iaised 2 llere is a poser at the outset . "If the prosperity of England depended upon its agriculture the nation would be a mere nothing . It is our rr .: imifacturos which' gives us our-wealth—outpo ^ v ~ -an 4 our population . " Observe , wealth put first : —
"Sipossisrecte—sinon ; -, quocunquemodi rem . '" Anything for money . Did the manufacturers , recommend usto submit to . a . national horse-v hi i . ping rather , than the risk of not selling their wares f Did they not counsel us to nllowariy town on the coast from Plymouth , eastt-rwardly , to be burnt , rathe ? than go to the expense of keeping , up a Uo .-. t to guard " them . , ( "Oh , oh" cheers , ; ; and ^ counter * cheers . ) I will support the motioniof : my , honourable friend , but it is nothing to what . we' meun to have . ( Laughter . ) - Wew'ill . have the Excise , to which I ' referred , done , away with . . . Your old try o £ faith with the public creditor , has lost much ; of . i ( $ chavm .. ('' Ob , ob , " . laughter , andgreab . confusionV in tfco iriidst of which the Speaker repeatedly culled members to order . ) , The ben . gentlemancontiniieds Oh , ' it is of no use ,, sir , when vou see , , hon ; -gentlemen with white waistcoats and brilliant eyes , your ^ tempting to oont : ol them . ( Groat . laughter *) l » « . it , as I was saying the cry of good faith with thg
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 23, 1850, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns2_23021850/page/7/
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