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HOUSE OF LORDS—Momuy , Feb . 10 . _Loffl MoKtEAGLi :. in moving for some papers relating tothe income and other taxes , entered into some financial _statements ana calculation ,, which he hoped would meet v . _-ith due cousiderAtion from thc Chancellor of the _Exchequer . . „ . . _ . The _' _Duke of Wellington * said he was willing to afford everj- information on the subject ; but he thought the HoWeLord would not expect that any statement should be made bv him until the financial measure had been brought _fol-ward by the Government . in the other House of Parliament . Tuesda y , Feb . 11 . The House tut for a short time , but no business of importance was _brou-ilit under consideration .
I _uuRsnwr , Feb . 13 . Lore _STAJiiAi having been summoned It }* writ to the House -jf lords , under the title of Lord Stanley , of _Knowsle-y , was introduced to-day by Lords Jtedesdale and Whanielift ' e , aud took the oaths and his seat . Lord -iJahfbeu . introduced two Bills , the object of which - jre when -persons who were indebted to parties in ihzs _jountry left it and resided in foreign parts , _lutt-sss . _isiijrht be served upon them , judgment obtained _a' _-MtV .. _** : them , and their property secured for the benefit of tfc _. ir -3-editors . Tiie Marquis of _Nobjiasby , after presenting a petition in _fevo-ar of the Government Medical "Reform BUI , gave notice thai in a few days lie should present a petition , agreed to at a public meeting held at Exeter Hall , praying the House to take measures for the improvement of drainage in huge towns .
Thc subject of thc recent gambling transactions m Railway shares on thc Stock Exchange , and the imputed « omnnHijcafion of improper information , by some one belonging to the Board of Trade , was brought under the attention of thc llouse by Lord Dalhousie , who defended himself and Ids colleagues of the Board of Trade , in a manner , - from the imputation ! - cast on them . The _charge priudpiily affected Mr . 1 > . O'Brien , and Lord Balhousie ' s esplana-don was veiy similar in import to . that given by _Sir _3 a * _-ies Graham oa _Tuesday evening , in answer to Mr . Wakley . Lord _Brougham aud Lord Lansdowue joined in th * _con-. _oi-satioa , and when it was ended tlic House adjourned . _HO'JSfi Oi' _COMJMCOCS . —if © mm v . _>* kb . 10 .
Tho Cu .-iNCiiLi . or . of the _Excuequcu gave notice that v . i _Wadnssday he would move thai the iionse should _resolve itself into a committee of supply , iu which he would iuo ' _-v for a vote of _Exchequer Bill , in order te enable his Right Hen . Friend SirK . reel to move for a committee of ways and means on Friday . > ir . 3 . Young moved for a new writ for Lcwcs , in the room « f die Hon . Ift-nrj * _l- _'itzroy , who has accepted the oS & ve .-Ss . Lord of tlic Admiralty . Tit- other business was of a routine character . _Tuksdav _, Feb . 11 . Sir _juPkemantm : took the oaths , and his seat for tlic borough of Buckingham .
2 Ir . Wallace called attention to thc several reports of Select Coimnittees on Railways , to the _appohitment of thc Railv / ay Board iu August last for thc transaction of railway business , and the effect of its published decision , with a view to thc revision aud amendment of the Act of last session . He complained , that by the present system the poop ' s of Great Britain werc subject to a monopoly of the mo ~ , z grinding and injurious character . Admitting thc courtesy with which he had been treated by the President and Tice-President of the Board of Trade , and all their = ubcrdinate officers , he contended thai the appointment of the Railway Board was anything but constitutional , for it was never intended , ou their appointment , that The _aiembers of tlic board should interfere with and decide _tnan all internal _uvrawrements for travelling !*! the
united iingdom . There were at present 218 railways , either sew roads or roads to be altered and extended , on which o 53 s were to be brought forward this session , and it _ivjis recently thought , hut he was glad to say erroneously , that none of these bills could be introduced without a preliminary decision in tlieir favour by the Railway Board . He ccnrplained also of the expense of transit on railroads , and read some tables of the fares , rates , and speed on two railroads in Scotland , for thc purpose of showing that the labotning classes of England might be carried on their _railrcKUi as cheaply and with , as much comfort as thc same _cl-isscs were now conveyed in Scotland . It had been _sho-sn that iu first class carriages passengers could be conveyed tweuty-five miles au hour at 3 d . a mile —tliar £ _« _.-joud class passengers could be conveyed the same speed in their carriages at 2 d . a' mile—aud that third class passengers could be carried the same speed at
ia , a _ualc . He argued that , if such werc thc case , ana he believed it to be nearly so , the present railway companies had no right to any indulgence from the House ; for they had defrauded thc public , and werc defrauding it sffll . I- --VMS the duty of Parliament to rectif y the mistake which il made sonic ycarj ; ago , uheu it gave a monopoly to these companies , and to insist that an open competition with them should be allowed . He thought that great good _woiJd be done by _adopting the system of tender , which was adopted abroad . The House was houud to make provision that uo carriages should be permitted to run on any railroad that was unsafe to thc health of thc passengers ; and yet it was undeniable tbat no carriages were so p ? micious to health as the second and third class carriages on most , i f not all , of 6 m * modern railroads . He concluded by moving for leave to bring in a bill to repeal thc Railway Act of last session .
_Jlr . z . _vaxzc thought that , however well it might answer abroad , -ie system of constructing railroads by tender would never answer in this country . He thought that the best mode of commencing reform in railway legislation _woc-ld be by reforming the construction of Parliamentary c-oinmittees _, and by msikiug them independent and impart ial bodies . Then a scientific and commercial body inight be called in to assist the Parliamentary committee ; bat he protested against calling in any department of -he Governuieut , as a Government body , to iutcrferf . He thought that experience confirmed the _propoatic-a of Jlr . Wallace , that it was expedient to reduce tLe rate of fares on nearly every railroad .
Lord IIowick had voted for the Railway Act of last _scsac-ir . _;<* id thought that , though not a perfect , it was still a . _vi-ry usefu l Act . ne agreed , however , with Mv , _Vallaee , in thinkiug that it was important that Parliament shoald secure for thepublic greater facilities and greater cheapness in railway travelling . As a great number cf railway bills were about to be introduced this session , Parliament ought seriously to consider at once _\ vhat _measures it would adi . pt to accomplish those objects . He thought that tiie first tiling on wliich Parliament should determine was to do in all cases that which was always doneiu France on similar occasions—namely , to decide betweeu competing companies ou thc line of railroad to be adopted ; for instance , there were three lines ro ?/ proposed between London and York . He
thought that on such a point they might trust to thc evidence of scientific persons to be appointed by the House . Then , having fixed ou the line of railroad , you might cail on the rival companies to send in tenders for making it . Those tenders should contain the terms of travelling , the rates of speed , and the fares at which the parties would convey passengers . Thus the House would get rid of tlic diSculty of deciding on competing lines , and would 2 hcck a spirit of gambling in railway shares which was absolutely _deniondisiii-j the country . He thought that this plan would also cause a l : _u-ge reduction in the rate of fares , which at present very much exceeded thc _cosr of carrying passengers . By laying down by Parliamentary authority in thc railway biUs about to be introduced a strict regulation as to flic rate of fares to be
levied , they _vtould bring down the fares exacted by aU existing railroads , as they were now nearly all in union or junction with each other . They would also by such a course moderate the _eagerness of enterprise in such speculations , which did net now , as it did originally , require a stimcJant . On tiie contrary , he was of opinion that there was at present a mania in the public mind on this subject , which required to be modified and checked . It might be said that it would _bs unjust , when parties had gone io all thc- trouble and expense of making preliminary inquiries about si line of railroad , to take it out of their hands . It would be so if no _rcmuneratioiuwerc made to them . But at -. resent those -parties had no claim on
Parliament . Parliament might be of opinion that a line should be made , and yet that those parties should uot make is . He trusted tha t no railway bill would be passed this session without thc committee looking closely at thc table cf fares , and proceeded to demonstrate thc advantage of such an arrauge / cent by his own experience as chairman of a Railway Committee last session . He had heard some pet-sous insist on thc necessity of deferring all railway legislation during the present session , in order that they might deliberate in the interim on the legislation which they ought to adopt To such a proposition he could not agree , as it would carry a large amount of capital out of the country to be embarked in thc meantime ii : foreign speculations .
Colonel SiBTHoar approved generally of Lord IIowick s suggestions ; but why had he not suggested them before , instead of _d-.-fcrriiij ; than tiU the present , the eleventh hour 5 In the short period of time during which Use House sat , it would be quite impossible to investigate fairly into the merits of thc 243 railway biRs which were coming before it . Mr . _Gisbosm * said that arrangements had grown up under the hill _. jflast session which it would now be extremely impolitic to interfere with , and therefore he could not support the motion of Mr . Wallace .
_ 3 Jr . S . _Woa-nxr had great doubt as to thc policy of publishing in the GazcUe the decisions ofthe Itailway Committee of the Board of Trade before thc reports of the committee were laid before Parliament . The mischief , however , was already done , and it was too late uow to attempt a remedy . He suggested thc propriety of appointing a committee to ascertain the bestmode of gettiug through the immense press of railway business which was likely to be forced on the consideraton of thc House . Jlr . Wakbcktos considered that Lord Howick s _suggestion of a modification ofthe French system would be found impracticable in this country , where towu 9 rose into importance or sunk into insignificance in a lesser number of years than that for whicli thc monopoly would be granted . After some observations from Mr . Bankcs , respecting the -way in which the public interests in some parts of the country were sacrificed to the _overn-hdming influence of eompt-ting lines of railway .
Sir R . Piel hoped that'the debate would not lead to a _uiscusaon on fhe reports of the Railway Board . He protested against any precipitate condemnation of that board
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whieh had been created under the sanction of the House , and which some gentlemen wanted nevertheless to abolish before it had made its first report to Parliament . That board had been censured for publishing its decisions in the Gazette . So far from thinking their conduct in that respect censurable , he thought that after they had come to a decision they were bound to publish it . In the course of two or three days the report of thc Board of Trade on the first class _ohailways would be published . That would enable the House to judge of thc principles upon whicli they acted ; and surely it would be advisable for Hon . Gentlemen to postpone their judgment till they had perused that report . He hoped that the House would not abandon the principles on which it had hitherto proceeded With regard to raUwav bills until they were
convinced that those principles were erroneous . They had been told that 240 railway bills were to be presented to the House in the course of thc present session ; but he had no doubt that discussion would considerably diminish that number . The wisest course would be to appoint a committee to consider the subject , under the assumption that there would be an unusual number of sueh bills . An Hon . Friend of his had procured the assent of the House to a committee on private bills , which consisted of persons the most conversant in the House with the conduct of private business . He hoped that that committee would not apply itself in thc first instance to the consideration of private bills generally , but would proceed to that of railway bins before aU others , and would reflect on the manner in whieh the House should
deal with thc 150 such bills that were likely to come before it . It might be necessary to constitute a number of committees , of five or seven members each . The report of such committees , if the members would give continuous attendance , would have weight with the House ; and , if so , the evil would not be of that magnitude as to induce them to despair of overcoming it . Supposing there were 200 such bills , why should they not sacrifice their time to thc consideration of them ? H they could not get members to serve spontaneously on such committees , they must adopt the principle adopted in election committees , and compel them to serve in some way or other . He had never heard of Lord Howick ' s plan before that evening , but he thought that if thc House undertook to consider it , it would lead to great confusion . His plan was that
Government should undertake a new survey of all the railways now projected , and which had already been surveyed by thc Board of Trade . That might be a good plan , but at any rate it would lead to the suspension of every railway for a considerable time . If this were a res _integra , Government might perhaps undertake to pro-luce a revenue by undertaking to make a railroad , though he did not know what effect such a proceeding might have on the constitution of the country in the multitude of subordinate officers in thc pay of Government to which it would give rise . Besides , even if you had a Government board to decide which was the best of thc three competing lines between London and York , mentioned by Lord Howiek , it would still be open to all the _susjiicions to whicli the present Government board was exposed .
Mr . Wakley said that no one had said one word respecting the greatest of all evils—the enormous length of barristers' speeches . The Hon . Gentleman then read an article from a publication called thc Economist , intimating that shares to a large extent had been purchased by Mr . William O'Brien , whose brother is one of the members of the Railway Committee of tlic Board of Trade , and observed that investigation was absolutely necessary in order to purge the board from the suspicions to which these share transactions of Mi * . William 0 'Bricu inevitably gave rise . Sir James Graham entered into an explanation exculpatory ofthe Messrs . O'Brien , and challenged inguiry if a single doubt remained of then- integrity . He was in . formed hy those gentlemen , and believed , that no communication had taken place between them relative to railway business ; and for his own part he would declare , as his name was mentioned in the article in the Economist , that he never held a railway share in his life .
ilr . _Bbotiieeton said , in his opinion , there was much more reason to complain of thc speeches of Hon . Members of that House than ofthe speeches of counsel , on the score of length . After a few observations from Mr . Darby , and from Mr . Wallace in reply , the motion was withdrawn .
BOSE CKl'SlUKG IX WORKHOUSES . Captain _Pechell , in moving for a return , ordered last session , of all thc union workhouses under thc Poor Law Aincndmcnt Act , in which the paupers were employed iu grinding or crushing bones by means of miils or other machinery , complained of the delay wliich had taken place in its production . The order had gone in July last to the Poor Law Commissioners . The Poor Law Commissioners werc under Sir J . Graham , and lie would show that the information for which he asked was furnished to the Poor I _& vr Commissioners before the _prorogation of Parliament . He wanted this return In order to compare thc administration ofthe Poor Law in the Gilbert Unions with its administration under the Poor _Lofw
Commissioners . Sir J . Gsaiiam had pressed thc Poor Law Commissioners to make this return before thc close of last session . Different circumstances had prevented them ; but thc return was now ready , and would be presented within tlircc or four days . It was matter of regret to him —and he Lad stated it before—that this crushing of bones by machinery was practised in the union houses . It was not ordered by the Poor Law Act , nor by _the-Secrctary of State , nor hy the Poor Law Commissioners ; hut it was the act of the local boards , unchecked by any superior or central authority . Lord Ebriii gtok contended that , if Sir James Graham ' s principle were to be adopted , bones must be crushed by independent labourers , if thev were crushed at all .
Mr . waklct thought , that as this practice had now got advocates among Noble Lords , the local interest , which supported such atrocity , must be stronger than he supposed . The Poor Law Commissioners must have more to do than he had hitherto given them credit for . He knew that they had been the protectors of his profession against the parsimony of boards of guardians . One board had dismissed a surgeon for giving what they considered too much food to sick paupers , and the Poor Law Commissioners , though they declared the surgeon to have acted rightly , had not the power to reinstate him . He thought that Sir James Graham ought not to allowforty-eight hours to elapse without giving additional powers to thc Poor Law Commissioners , if that which Lord Ebrington had stated wore correct . If that Noble Lord had sanctioned thc offensive , disagreeable , and unwholesome practice of crushing decomposed bones iu any union-house , he was afraid that the ' practice was more general than he had anticipated .
Mr . Roebuck called the attention of the House to tlic wide discrepancy between the opinions just expressed by Mr . Wakley ant } those which he had formerly advocated to obtain popular applause . In his past speeches he would have deprived " the three tyrants of Somerset-house , " "the pinch-paupers , " of all power whatsoever . Now forty-eight hours were not to elapse without additional powers being granted to them for the sake of humanity . Mr . "Wakley had formerly pointed tlic finger of scorn towards all who supported the New Poor Law . He ( Mr . Roebuck ) had supported it from the first : aud he now fixed the finger of scorn on Mr . Wakley , for the recklessness either of lis past or of Lis present assertions . That Hon . Member was not justified in employing the arts of popular _deuiagogueism to cast obloquy upon meu who arc as humane and honourable as himself , and a little more cautious and deliberate iu coming to conclusions on important subjects .
Sir C . Lemok declared it to be his opinion that the paupers would find the breaking of stones nota whit more agreeable to them than the crushing of these bones by machinery . Mr . Wakl-et repelled thc insinuations of Mr . Roebuck , and contended thathe had no right to impute motives to hun , as he had done , in saying that he made statements to obtain popular applause . He was prepared to repeat in tlic House everything- which he had said out of the House against thc Poor Law Commissioners . All he had _jjtid was , that if this practice , which Mr . Roebuck _defeided , existed under thc _Toor Law Commissioners , he would give them power immediately to abolish it .
Mr . Henley was surprised at the short memory of Mr , AYs & lcy , when he eulogised thc kindness which thc Poor Law Commissioners had shown to the members of his profession . Surely they were thc parties who compelled the boards of guardians to go ou thc contract system at the beginning . Public opinion afterwards compelled then * , to abandon the system they had themselves set up . If the Poor Law Commissioners had not originated tliis system of _bouo-crusliit-g- then- Assistant-Commissioners had recommended- its adoption in every part of thc country . After a protest on thc part of Mr . Sharman Crawford against Mr . Wakley ' s _suggestion of giving additional power to the Poor Law Commissioners , the return was ordered .
tbi ; rnorosED sjew law or settlement . Sir J . Graham said , that when he addressed the House on the law of settlement in thc course of last session , he had mentioned some facts to show the vast importance of thc subject . It was a fact , that no less than a tenth part of our population now received relief from the poor-rates in thc course ofthe year . The magnitude of the sum dispensed in their relief was very large . Since the termination of thc war iu 1815 , notwithstanding all that had been said of the inhumanity of the law , no less a sum had been levied from the parochial rate-payers than £ 200 , 000 , 000 , or , in other words , a sum equal to one-fourth ofthe National Debt . It _depenfed on thc settlement of au individual , when he first applied for relief , where he should receive it—whether in the place of his residence if he was settled there , or to what place he should be removed iu order to he relieved in case he was not settled . The magnitude of the question deserved consideration ,
and increased thc difhculty of making any change m tbe law . He had laid on the table at thc close ofthe last session a bill in the hope of its undergoing free discussion in thc recess , and of liis receiving aid from thc publie , in order to amend it . He would now proceed lo lay before thc House his present bill , as thc best return which- he could make to thc comments and suggestions whieh had been offered hhn . Iu his bill of last year there were four points prominently treated . First , he had proposed great alterations in thc law of settlement by proposing that all other causes of settlement should be repealed , and that birth should be the sole ground of settlement hereafter . Secondly , as to removals , lie had proposed stven checks to thc summary power now iu existence , and it was not necessary for him to repeat more than one of them at present , by wliich he proposed that five years' industrial residence in any locality should not give an absolute settlement to any individual , but should place him in
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such a situation that , though without n settlement , he could not be removed . His third branch related to appeals on the law of removal , and his fourth to thc removal of Scotch and Irish paupers to their respective countries , Tothe two last branches no serious objections were made ; but the strongest were made to the two first , the substitution of a birth settlement prospectively and retrospectively , and the proposition for the irremovability of parties not having a settlement , but having a five years' industrial residence . It was his wish at present to meet both those objections . He was not prepared to propose that a retroactive effect should be giveu to the right of settlement by birth ; but he was prepared to propose ,, that from and after the passing of this act , only prospectively , birth should be the ground of settlement , leaving undisturbed
all existing settlements . Of late years a great statistical improvement had been introduced . Thc registrations , not only of the birth , but also of the place of the birth , was now compulsory , and thus facilities were given for proving birth settlements . . The interests of the town and thc country did not always run in the same direction . The effect of the substitution of a birth settlement , retrospectively and prospectively , was in favour of tiie town at the expense of the country districts ; for towns were the great marts of industry , and attracted the labour of the rural districts . If birth werc thc only ground of settlement , it was clear that the expense of providing for destitution must be thrown upon the country . The abolition , therefore , of birth settlement retrospectivelv would be favourable to
the rural districts , and not beneficial to the towns . The converse of this was true with respect to ivremovabiUty . The clause which provided that five years' industrial residence should render a man irremovable , would cause an increase of burden on the towns , and would be a consequent benefit to the country . He was therefore disposed to forego two portions of his former bill . He would no longer insist on birth settlement retrospectively , mid he would withdraw the irremovability arising from a five years' residence . 'He then called the attention of the House to the advantages which the poor would derive from the other six limitations in his bill of last year , which he proposed to continue in thc present . He then stated that it was his intention to propose that no woman residing with her husband at the time of his
death in the parish of his settlement should be removable to her own parish after his death ; that no widow , whether living in her husband's parish or elsewhere , should be removable for twelve months after his death ¦ that no legUimate child after its father ' s death should be removable under sixteen from its father ' s settlement ; that no illegitimate child under sixteen years of age should be removable from its mother ' s settlement ; that no one becoming chargeable by sickness or accident should be placed under order of removal until he or she had received relief for forty days consecutively ; and , lastly , that persons requiring relief should be relieved wherever they were resident , irrespec tivc of their settlement . He then detailed the substance of the clauses which he had provided for the removal of
Irish iind Scotch paupers , and for the reparation of any wrong whieh might he done by illegal removals , and which were precisely the same as those introduced in his bill of last year . He then came to what he called f he most important " provision in his measure—it was so important that he would give the fullest time for its consideration before he called upon the House to affirm it on thc second reading of the bill . Dr , Adam Smith doubted whether any poor man ever reached the age of forty without experiencing thc hardship and injustice of the law of settlement , and thought it monstrous that any man should be confined within thc narrow limits of his parish either for his residence or his labour . In England and Wales there are 14 , 500 parishes—their limits are of course very narrow , and yet within them is the poor man re
strained . It will he an advantage to the poor man to reduce the number of restrictions whieh are now placed , on the free circulation of his labour , and the number of those small local circles within which he is confined bj * the present law . He , therefore , proposed to substitute 620 for these 11 , S 00 small districts—in other words , to substitute unions for parishes . If he coidd induce the House to substitute union settlements for parochial settlements , he should consider himself as having accomplished a great benefit both for the payers and recipients of the rates . He then read several memorials which he had received from boards of guardians in Norfolk and Lancashire , and from Assistant Poor Law Commissioners , and from a meeting ofthe clerks of the boards of guardians , iu favour of thc alteration which he had just suggested . Thc Right Hon . Gentleman next proceeded to state in
detailthe manner in which he proposed to change parochial into union settlements , and the manner in which he in tended to apportion the rates to be paid by the different parishes in the union . He proposed that the amount of the poor-rate ( abstracting the county rate and other similar charges ) paid for the seven years antecedent to tue & th of March , 1810 , should fix the relative amount of the burden to be defrayed by each parish . The equity of such an arrangement could not , he thought , be impugned . He should weary the House if he stated all the advantages which he anticipated from these changes ; he would therefore conclude by moving for leave to bring in a bill to consolidate ami amend thc laws relating to parochial settlement and the relief of the poor , and would recommend it to the justice and humanity of all who were anxious to promote the interests of the noon
Colonel Wood expressed lus regret at hearing thc last suggestion of liis Right Hon . Friend ; but if union settlements were to he substituted for parochial settlements , he was convinced that it would be mo 3 t injurious to the interests of the poor ; for it would render the inhabitants of a parish inattentive to the employment of tlieir local poer . He sincerely wished that residence , and residence alone , should give a settlement ; and if the bill proceeded , Ue should certainly propose a clause that residence for a . year should in future give a settlement . , Mr . Bright said , that though he viewed this bill with some alarm and even some suspicion , lie was most anxious to co-oporatc with any Government which seriously intended to remove thc distress and suffering which werc endured in too many cases under the present law .
Mr . Henley objected to this bill as being the first step to break up the parochial system of England . Besides , it was absurd to extend tho circulation of a poor man ' s labour to the limits of -the union only ; what he wanted was , to have a free circulation of it throughout the whole country . Mr . Bbotueutox said , that without committing himself to support thc bill , he was inclined to look favourably upon it , as an improvement on the present law . He thought that it would give satisfaction , and he should throw no obstacle in the way of its passing . Lord Kdbisgtos approved of the general outline of the bill , and thought that it woidd be a great boon to thc labouring man .
Mr . Beckett _Deknison thought that Sir J . Graham had deprived his bill oflast session of its best feature in depriving it of thc clause which gave irremovability after a residence of five years . He should have preferred three years , two years , . one year even , to five years . Still the bill was a great improvement on the present law , and he should give to it his strenuous support . Sir J . Gbaham thanked the House for the _qoidial approbation which it had given to his bill . Mr . WAKLErsaid , that in consequence of that remark he must observe that in offering no opposition that night
to this bill he must not be considered as approving of it , It was a bill of tremendous operation . It would break up the parochial system of England , and would , he was afraid , render permanent the law of the 4 th . and 5 th of William . IV ., which gave the Poor Law _Commissioners existence . He then vindicated himself from the sarcasms of Mr . Roebuck , and declared that he would not permitany member to impute improper motives to him . He was afraid that the bill would operate most injuriously to the interests of the poor . Leave was then given to bring in the bill . The House then adjourned .
_Wed-sbsday , Feu , 12 . On thc motion for going into a committee of supply , Mr . Roebuck called thc attention of the House to the alleged fact , that the thanks ofher Majesty had been given to the Sheriff of Montreal for his conduct in the late parliamentary elections of Canada , although at the time there was an election petition against the return for Montreal , Impugning the conduct of the sheriff as returning officer . Mr . Hope . said , that Sir C . Metcalfe had highly eulogised the conduct of the sheriff for securing the public peace under very alarming _circutiistnaces ; and in reply to his dispatch , Lord Stanley authorised hini . to convey to the Sheriff the thanks of the Executive Government—not the thanks ofher Majesty , for his exertions . In reply to a question from Mr , Bofveihe ,
Sir R . Peel said , that no uegociations were pending between tliis country and Brazil involving any alterations in the tariff of either country . TKe only negociations pending related to an ordinary treaty of navigation and commerce . Mr . RicAimo hoped the Government would abandon its policy of differential duties . Mr . M . Giuson said the difficulty of effecting reciprocitytreaties was to be found at home , and it would be much more satisfactory if the Right Hon . Baronet would endeavour to negociato with the Central Society for the Protection of Agriculture . In reply to uuestions from Lord J , _RCBSEIiL ,
Sir R . Peel said that it was not his Intention to press the House to a decision upon the resolutions which he meant to submit to the committee of ways and means on Friday next , though he thought that any long delay would be productive of great inconvenience . It was his intention to postpone all other public business until thc opinions ofthe House could be gathered upon the financial views to be submitted on Friday . The House then went into committee of supply , and thc Chancellor of the Exciieqceb moved , that £ 15 , 401 , 500 exchequer bills be granted as a vote of supp lyto her Majesty for the service of the current year . After some brief discussion the resolution was agreed to , and the House adjourned at half-past five .
Thursday , Feb . 13 . Mr . _Dakby presented several petitions from various districts , complaining of the burdens which press on agriculturists , and praying for immediate relief . Mr . Mastebman presented a petition from the City of London , signed by 1 , 500 persons , and pvaj ing for a revision of the Excise duty on soap . Mr . John Bright gave notice that he would upon this day fortnight move for a repeal ofthe Game . Laws . After the presentation of several petitions . NOTICE OF MOTION—STATE OF THE NAVY . Sir C . IfAriER rose to move for a select committee to inquire into the manner in ' which the money vested since 1835 , for the construction of ships , had been _expanded ,
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and if the ships constructed are an improvement of the old H system . " The Hon . Member ( who dropped his voice so as to be nearly inaudible ) in commencing his speech , proceeded to say that his only motive in bringing forward the motion was to ascertain whether or not the reports in circulation as to tha defects of these ships were correct . He had been told that it was no business of his to interfere with such a matter ; that it should be left to the proper authorities , by which was meant , he supposed , the Admiralty . It had been left to the proper authorities for a great number of years , and they had , notwithstanding , seen the greatest errors and blunders prevailing , This was neither a political nor a party question ,, but one which concerned the well-being of the navy and the proper application of the finances of the country ; and , iu
the remarks which he was about to make , he should be guided solely by such considerations . It would be necessary to go back for a considerable time . When he ( Sir C . Napier ) first entered the service , in 1800 , the navy contained several _three-aeokDVB of 120 , 110 , 08 , and 90 guns . The first class generally consisted of good ships , but thc others were so inferior , that they were found totally unfit for _seriice ; but , notwithstanding all the representations which were made to the Admiralty , the same system was persevered in . This country hud taken some very excellent ships from the French . There were the Terror , the Sans Pareil , and the Canopus . Several ships had been constructed upon the model of the Canopus , and had been found to answer extremel y well . The Sans Pareil was a most excellent ship , but she had never
been copied up to this very time . He now came to the frigates of those days . There were forty-six gun frigates , forty-two gun frigates , and thirty-two gun frigates , all carrying 18-pounders , thirty-two gun frigates carrying 12-pounders , and twenty . eight gim frigates . Those were very good ships in their day , but they were found not to answer , and they were superseded by thc thirty-two gun ships . One of these ships was commanded by ai \ _Hoi _* . and Gallant Officer opposite , and anothey by himself , and he could say that a more useless lot of ships had never been constructed by any Admiralty . They were found to be inefficient , iii fact , good for nothing ; ana they were superseded by another class of fri gates , called twenty-eight gun frigates . These , however , like the rest , were . not found to answer ,
and those were given up . Another class of ships were those called sixtecn-gun sloops , mounting si :. _' - pounders , and those _res-iels were persevered in until they were found perfectly useless ; and there was not a youngster or boy in the navy that did not know it . Thc next class of shi ps adopted were the eighteen-gim frigates , which were much longer and much narrower than thc eighteen-gun brigs , which every body must have expected would have f _„ iieU ) : iu ( i which he looked upon as patent coffins for burying a hundred and twenty men at once . Thc Jast class in the service which he noticed was that of thc gun-brigs , and of those ' a whole host had been introduced into the service likelv to excite a great deal of
notice , hut calculated to be of little service . There was the Barker , thc Bruiser , and a number of others , which if taken together , would form a whole pack . But these were soon exploded , and the ten-gun brigs were shortly afterwards introduced for them . These again in their turn had last year been condemned by the shipwright ' s committee . The navy was in a mo . it inefficient state , the ships being generally constructed upon inferior principles . The Gallant Commodore , after having gone to a considerable length further into thc subject , the main gi & t of whicli was to thc effect that the present navy was in a very incompetent state , concluded by making his motion .
Sir _Georgts Cockdcrn replied to the Gallant Commodore . He would not go through the whole of the statements , nor attempt to defend certain defects in _vcsscH wliich had been alluded to . It ought to be borne in recollection that during nearly the whole period of whieh the Gallant Commodore had been speaking , thc art ot ship-building had been by no means so perfect as at present . He admitted that many of the vessels of which the Gallant Officer had been speaking were of a very bad description . Those , however , had been supplanted by ships of a superior construction . Ho then proceeded to justify the transactions of the present Admiralty Board , though he could not pretend to answer for the one that had preceded it in office , contending and proving a series of nautical statements , that considerubile improvements for the better had taken place under the management of the existing authorities .
Captain Rous said the navy and tiie country werc greatly indebted to the Gallant Commodore , and defended at considerable length the same positions . He considered this branch of the service had not been at all attended to by the present Government , in the manner it ought to have been done . Mr Charles Wood , Captain _Pecheli , and Admiral Bowles _having briefly spoken to the motion , Mr . Wakley said that he did not see any good that would accrue from the motion ofthe Gallant Commodore , and advised him to withdraw it . He was opposed to thc whole of our present system of naval tactics ; for while he thought thc navy ought to be maintained in all its integrity , as constituting the principal bulwark of the country , he deprecated to the utmost the squandering of large sums of money upon old hulks that were never fit for any active service , or if they werc so fitted out would continually endanger the lives of them who might be appointed to man them .
Sir Charles Napier having briefly replied , the House divided , when there appeared For the motion 32 Against it OS Majority —01 The House then went into committee on the Railway Clauses Consolidation Bill , and after several clauses were agreed to , thc House adjourned . _Fkidav , Feb . 14 . The House met at a few minutes before four o ' clock , at which time the attendance of members was not very numerous , considering the important questions which were to be brought under consideration , and thc early hour ( half-past four o ' clock ) which was announced for the commencement of Sir II . Peel ' s statement . The number of strangers in thc passages leading to thc gallories iva * unusually great : so much so , indeed , that all the galleries in the House would not have accommodated n tenth of them .
Mr . T . Duncombe presented a petition from Mr . Joseph _Ma-wini , stating that he had ona former occasion , in the last session , petitioned that House , and complained that his correspondence was opened at the Post-office , his letters read , and resealed with forged seals . He stated that his petition hud been referred to a secret committee , which had since made its report , but that he ( thc petitioner ) had reason to believe that that committee had been misinformed on many points . He now prayed that his first petition might be re-considered , and redress given to him , in order that ho and other foreigners in this country might know what they had to trust to , and what protection they might expect here . The same Hon , Member gave notice , that on Tuesday next he would move the appointment of a committee to liquire as to any warrants which might have been issued to provincial postmasters authorising them to open certain letters , and he would ] also move that the report of the committee of last sessiou be referred to that
committee . The order of the ' day was then read , and the Speaker havinrr left the chair , the House went into
COMMITTEE _OJ WATS AND _HEAbS . FlrfAKCiAL STATEMENT . Sir R . Peel rose and 3 tated , that though he had had considerable experience in the discharge of official duties , and though he had frequently addressed the . House on matters of great public concern , he could not approach the subject on which he had then to addvess tlic committee without great anxiety , and a deep consciousness how inadequate and imperfect the explanation would be which he should endeavour to place before it . But though he rose under some disadvantages as to the period of the year at which this communication was made , yet , after the declaration made in her Majesty ' s ( speech , that it was the intention of Ministers to propose the continuance of the income-tax for a certain number of years , he felt that
he had no other alternative thau to submit to the House the general views which the Government took ofthe financial condition and the commercial policy of the country . It would be his duty to discuss this great question—whether it he _uousiotent with the publie interest that the present amount of public expenditure should be maintained , or whether it be not right that there should be in some important respects an increase of expenditure beyond the precedent of former years ? If the committee- maintained the latter proposition , the question which he should then have to submit to it would be this—whether it is fitting that the expenditure should be met from the ordinary sources , or whether it is more advisable that the tax on income and property should be continued , for the double purpose of providing for the due execution of the public
service , and of enabling Parliament to repeal other taxes pressing on the industry and commercial enterprise of the country ? After referring to the estimate of the probable revenue and expenditure which was made by the Chancellor of the Exchequer iu April last , when he brought forward his budget , and , after showing that the surplus revenue , on which he had calculated for the whole year , had been greatly exceeded by the actual amount of revenue received on the 0 th of January , 1814 , he proceeded to estimate the surplus revenue wliich hould be in the Exchequer on the 5 th of April , ISio , at a sum which at the very least would amount to £ 5 , 000 , 000 . Ho then submitted to tho House an estimate ofthe probable receipt of the revenue for thc year ending the 5 th of A , pril _, 181 G , on thc assumption that the House would not sanction thc income-tax , and calculated that it . would amount to £ _fjl , 0 l > 0 , 000 ; and , supposing thc estimates of the ensiling vein * to be the same as they were during the last , he
calculated the total amount of expenditure to be £ 48 , 557 , 000 ; so that there would be still a surplus ' of £ 2 , 543 , 000 . But if they deducted from this surplus the sum tq . be derived from the receipt of half-a-year ' s income-tax which would become due in the interim , and from the payment of the instalment from China , there would be in that case a small deficiency in the revenue as compared with the expenditure of the year . The question then arose whether Ministers werc justified in demanding , under such circumstances , an increased expenditure on account of the public service . He was satisfied that fliey werc justified . He showed that no saving could be made by the abolition , of offices aud reduction of salaries . A sufficient force of revenue officers must be kept up to insure the collection of the revenue and to give facilities to the transaction of commerce . No diminution of the army could be recommended , on account of the extent of our colonial dependencies , and of the necessity of our sending fit
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out reliefs to the regiments who garrisoned and protected them . Thc army was a very complicated and expensive machine , which would be dislocated and deranged if due attention werc not paid to its support . An increase in the army was not a measure whieh he should propose , but any diminution of it would be a measure to which he could not consent . The military estimate for the present year would therefore be £ C , 600 , 000 . There were reasons which induced him to propose an increased estimate for the navy this year : and those werc to be found in thc growing necessity for a further protection to our commerce in every part of the globe , and in tiie establishment of three new naval stations—one on the coast of Africa , another in the Pacific , and a third in the Chinese seas . He should x > ropose to employ this year 4 , 000 men more
than were employed m the estimates of last year . That increase would not be for the purposes of war or of aggression , but for thc protection of our commerce , and the maintenance of peace . ''T he expense so caused would be £ 181 , 000 . There would also be a vote for always keeping at . our command a squadron of eight or nine sail of the line , which would create no jealousy among foreign powers , and another for the purpose of increasing and improving our steam navigation . In respect , therefore , of the vote for the navy , and the ordnance connected with the navy , there would be in the votes of this year an increas of nearly one million . For this increased expenditure the revenue of the next year would , he thought , suffice , even if the House would not consent to continue the income-tax . It was quite clear , however ,
that if it did not continue the income-tax , in thc year following a deficiency of revenue would be discovered . The question which he must next put to the committee was , whether they would run the risk of that deficiency by making no provision to meet it , or whether they would postpone the consideration of that deficiency till tho year 1816 ? Her Majesty ' s Government thought that it would not bo a prudent course so to disregard the future condition of the country . Ministers were , therefore , induced to propose the continuance of the property-tax for a further period ; and before he asked the assent ofthe House to that proposal , he felt it necessary to explain what were their views as to the appropriation of the surplus revenue which would then be placed at tlieir disposal after all thc exigencies ofthe public- service were provided
for . He would assume for the present that thc committee would sanction thc continuance of the property-tax , and would then give tliem an estimate of the revenue which lie expected to derive from that source . Supposing the property-tax to be continued , the revenue , on the 5 th of April , _LS-lli , would amount to £ 53 , 71 ) 0 , 000 , and so long as the other sources of revenue were productive might be calculated at that sum , deducting only a sum of £ 000 , 000 from China , whieh would only be- receivable for one year more . He would , therefore , _talie the amount of thc revenue at £ 53 , 100 , 000 . The public expenditure he had already calculated at £ 49 , 000 , 000 . There would therefore be left ou the 5 th of April , 181 G , a net surplus of £ 3 , 409 , 000 , if tlic committee acquiesced in thc demand of Ministers for increased naval
estimates . Ho now approached the most important question of all , namely , what was tho mode iu which this surplus , or a part of it , could be applied to thc relief of taxation ? He would not have- proposed the continuance of the income tax if he had not felt thc strongest persuasion that it was competent for the House , by means of it , to make arrangements with respect to taxation which would be the foundation of great future commercial prosperity , and which would add materially to the comforts of those who were called upon to contribute to it . In considering how they would appropriate any surplus of revenue , several important considerations must always be before them . They must first consider the claims to reduction of taxation on account of the heaviness of the duties on articles' which entered into
general consumption ; then they must also consider what were the taxes which pressed most heavily on those raw materials which constituted thc staple manufactures of the country . Then , they must consider what were the taxes which required tiie greatest establishment of revenue-officers for tlieir collection ; and then what were the taxes which , if reduced , would enable them to diminish that same establishment , and so to reduce their expenditure . Lastly , they must consider what werc the taxes wliich , if removed , would give new scope to commercial enterprise and occasion an increased demand for for labour . He did not say which of those considerations ought to predominate , but they were all of importance . If the property-tax were continued , Ministers intended to make a great experiment with respect to taxation , in thc
hope that the general prosperity which would result therefrom would fill up the void caused in future years by the cessution of taxation . They did not propose to maintain any material surplus of income over revenue ; but , in the conviction that the House would at all events maintain public credit , they proposed thc reduction of certain taxes , which were more onerous than productive _, lie would first take the taxes connected with the customs , and would submit to the House a proposition with respect to the reduction ofthe duty on sugar . He proposed , with regard to all sugars but refined sugars , to make this reduction . On brown Muscovado sugar , which HOW paid a duty of 25 s . 3 d ,, he proposed to make a reduction of lis . 3 d .- , and likewise to reduce tho duty to 14 s . That reduction would apply to all British plantation
sugar , and to sugar the produce ofthe Mauritius ; but there were certain districts in British India , with regard to whieh a different rule now applied ; and with respect to them he proposed that they should pay thc same relative proportion of duty which they paid at present , and thatthe duty should be 18 s . 8 d . On free-labour foreign sugar he proposed that the protecting duty should not exceed 9 s . 4 d ., and therefore the duty would be 23 s . 2 d . Any country whieh had a reciprocity treaty with us could not , of course , be deprived af any right which it enjoyed at present . _As-to white or clayed sugars , or sugars equal to clayed sugars , he proposed that the duty should be reduced on British plantation sugars from 25 s . 3 d . to 10 s . 4 d . ; that the duty on sugar imported from India should be 21 s . 9 d ., and that the duty on free-labour foreign sugar
should be 28 s ., thus rctainm . _* _- * the whole amount of discriminating duty which was imposed last year , but applying that duty in a different manner , giving 9 s . 4 il . as a protection on Muscovado sugar , and an increased protection of lis . 4 d . on the more , valuable and costly article . With respect to the duty on molasses , he proposed to reduce it in thc same proportions . As to the admission of rufmeil sugar , he proposed to remove the prohibitory duty on refined sugar imported from thoso British possessions whicli were entitled to import Muscovado sugar at 14 s ., and to place upon such sugar a proportionate import duty , namely , on refined sugar 18 s . 8 d ., and 21 s . on double refined . He then gave the committee an estimate of the supply of sugar which he eonsideted likely to come from our possessions to this country in tho course
of the present year , and concluded lus observations upon that point by stating that the effect which would be produced on the price of sugar by this reduction in the dutywould be a reduction of lid . per lb . ; but taking other circumstances , which always accompanied a high rate of duty , into consideration , he calculated that it would amount to a reduction of lid . per lb . He estimated thc loss which would he produced in the revenue of next year by thc reduction of thc sugar duties _^ at £ 1 , 300 , 000 . He next proceeded to state , that in the tariff of 1842 he had abolished generally the duty on all exports . with thc exception of some few articles . He now proposed to- 'adopt as a general rule thc abolition of export duties on all articles . He did not propose to except the export duty on
coal . After having benefitted the coal-owners by the removal of the export duty , he did expect that they would give to the people of England the full advantage of the boon which they had received , and that the House would hear no more of their combinations to restrict supply , and to enhance price . The total loss from thc reduction of the coal duty he estimated at . £ 120 . 000 . He next proceeded to a consideration ofthe duties levied on and applicable to raw materials used in manufactures . The tariff ' now included 81 S such articles . He now proposed to remove the duties , applicable to 430 of them . By abolishing these duties altogether they would get rid of a number of troublesome accounts . If fraud were practised in the introduction of these articles , against which some precautions must be takeu , by exan . ining them , he must apply to the llouse
heveaiter for the purpose of obtaining more stringent regulations against it . One advantage of getting rid of these duties would be that it would dispense with the warehousing system . He then enumerated a number of the articles to which this abolition of duties would apply , as for instance , the fibrous materials of silk , hemp , and flax ; jams of certain materials , excepting woollen ; furniture goods ; animal and vegetable manures ; ores and minerals , with the exception of copper ore ; iron and zinc iii tlieir first stage of manufacture ; die stuffs generally , and certain drugs of a noxious character . There were some articles to which this total removal of duty would not apply . He did not propose to interfere with the general principles whieh thc Government hud applied to the timber duties . The import of Baltic timber was now
increasing , and the estimate which he had formerly made respecting it had not turned out to be incorrect . There was one article connected with timber which he proposed to exempt from duty—he alluded to the article of staves . The Government had given attention to thc memorial of the coopers on this subject , and had determined to permit an unrestricted importation of staves for their benefit . Tlieleugtti ofthe staves must , however , be limited , or it would be impossible to prevent their importation for thc benefit of other parties than coopers . The abolition of thc duty on this article would cause a loss of £ 33 , 000 to thc revenue ; and the whole loss occasioned by the omission of 430 articles from the tariff would amount to £ 320 , 000 . He next approached the consideration of that article of raw material which was most important to thc prosperity of the eountrycotton wool . As the impost pressed most heavily on the coarser fabrics , he was prepared to advise the abolition of
it altogether . Thc loss to the revenue upon the article of cotton wool would nut be les _*; thau £ 1580 , 000 , taking the duty upon estimate of the quantity imported last year . He did not intend to propose any further alteration in the revenue of the Customs . He had reviewed the duties levied by the Excise , with a view of ascertaining what were the duties whieh pressed most greivously on thc interests and industry of the country . Among these he fouud , first aud foremost , the auction duty on thc transfer of property . When a commission was appointed some years ago to examine into the Excise duties , they made this recommendation , that the duties on auctions should bo the first tax repealed . He proposed to repeal the auction duty altogether , in consequence of , the advantage which a commercial country was likely to derive from greater facilities in the transfer of property . He likewise proposed that thq auctioneers , instead of taking out several licenses at an expense of £ 5 each for selling different articles , _shouidtafce o utone general license
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at an expense of £ 15 to sell any article tl _^^ Tlieir licenses now often cost them £ - > . j . ¦ jm ' _/ _P 1 _*** _- _* _* auctioneers was 4 , 000 ; and the estaWisiiiuert " T _^' i cense would produce a revenue of £ C _(* , oi _* n . jr a * -l 5 _* that he intended to relieve the article _' of giass f n < atsl- _« _4 cise duty . The amount of duty at present imno , _T " * -i 200 and even 300 per cent , on its manu facture Th" ' ' * no dutjymoreovcr , which occasioned such vi » . t \ ference with the manufacturer as this ( lutv j , " _*¦ _" % France , Belgium , and Bohemia , there was il 0 J' _^ Ithis article , and the consequence was , that tl _? t " W ture of it had been brought to the hi ghest pc _' if ? _" _% pccially in the latter country . If the house \ _nu \ f " ' fi ' to relieve the manufacturers of glass iu t _* us ( - '( , " : _iutogether from the pressure of this tax , ana tr _, ? _- " _' _}' _& stricted play to their capital aud enter prise i _f _" ' _" " :. viuced , that with our command of alkali _an-T _"' ' _'' _^' would enter into successful competition with tl ° _* | *'¦ facturers of every other country . nt _tliout'lt _" " ' _^ point | even of health , a greater benefit would ' _^' _- the , country from the remission of the tux 0 n _a _^ -J from the remission of the window-tax . 'r _* . _^ _*? _ftjj from the remission of the glass duty would af _^ ' _^ £ 042 , 000 . He had now exhausted tlm lin 0 f , _^ t ... i .:.. i . i ... „/ i ,.. „ l ., .. „ ..,: __ j- . . '" _'tIClw . icmiaaum oi
mum uc _piuyuocu a taxation Tl *¦ 8 S immediate loss of revenue whicli the re venue vv i _^ - 8 tain by their repeal or abolition would _iin " - H £ 3 , 338 , 000 , which _vvouid nearly- absorb tlic ' siim ' ! ' m £ 3 , 409 , 000 , on which he had already calculated . _S ?' ' ¦ ' jf deny that the financial scheme whicli he i , ' _j . V | | plained to thc-committee was a bold _ex- ierimc , _^ * ' If responsible as he was to Parliament for its 3 _uCPi '' a' _? 3 was not afraid to run the risk of making it . j * „ _^ _k | | posed to the committee to continue the _inconic- ta _* ' * " H further limited period of tkree years , because _lijA "" ' - J confident persuasion that tho reduction _inpi-icc of- _*! Si of great importance , which would foiluiv this i , r ! ' 5 _' * 11 remission of taxation , would be , if not a _eointi _leto ' ''' ' Hf great compensation for its burden . lie would i ' j " HI that it might not be wiser to give a longer time thaa & j IS years for testing this experiment . He _tiiou-iit InL _^ lUl that Parliament ought to have a control ovcAhu t _\^ " _} § of such a tax . He hoped that so great a source of _iC ' " 111 would not be dried _iip before the expiration of tlnw " _"' HI
but at the aid of that time—such whs his eeutidi . T ,. ' j ' . 1 elasticity of tlic country—lie thought that tlic . v , 1 bo able to dispense with the tax if they _thouj- ' it •<¦ . _^ 1 lie had now submitted liis plan to the commit ;* .- ; ' _* I recommended it to them with a deliberate conviotii _,-., _* | their sanction of it vvouid conduce to the extti ; . _^"' : industry , and to the encouragement of enterprise . m _; , ; . j •" : ill consequence of . that extension of industry , _an , ! , ; . _^ |? encouragement of enterprise , all classes of die tv , / ||
whether agricultural , manufacturing , _cohiiik-h _-.- " m parties not engaged in any particular branch cf _ji _^ , ' || would either directly or indirectly be benefitted _lui- / 11 that every class would find its comfort ami its \; _v " _'N promoted . The Itight Hon . Baronet concluded InV . " . ' r % at five minutes to eight o ' clock by moving a funiial ' r "¦ " 8 lution onthe subject . The House rung' with c ! il ,. ' . ' . H some minutes after lie bad concluded . ' pi After a short pause , Sir Robert rose again _imd ; §
that lie would not ask the committee to confirm _ijjj 7 lj § p position that night ; but he doped that Hon , _feC " *« would be in a condition to decide on the . _'riuei-fcV ' " _S resolutions on Monday next . " " ' < _js Lord IIowick considered that the conlowncrs h » ¦ ¦ . S debted to Lord 1 _' owlett for remissiou of the export " k HI on coal . Though he was Member for _SunderlavVfel disapproved highly of the regulation of th e vend , 1 , 1 " _^ S the coalowners had un wisely concurred , ft Lad _j _^^ most injurious to the coalowners themselves . _Ifcij ! _* M an insurmountable objection to the Ri ght lion , to-.. ' ! still arrangement of the sugar duties . " "MM After a few words from Mr . Bell , _ij _| Mr . Hume stated that the plan of relensinj &\ r . f _|§ from nil duties was so judicious _thut he couldi _;« i-PM approve it . The repeal ofthe duty on glass uouliwi . _p |
a greater benefit ou the community than the _re-icalt _^ ii window-tax . _* ll Lord J . _Rcasaz . 1 . thought that they ought not w _^^ to an immediate conclusion on such a subject , _ife-nawpi not ask for a day ' s delay beyond that which tli-. _ilii'M Hon . Gentleman had proposed : he would then iii -. fft view of his whole proposal . He considered the { j ; : i §| Hon . Baronet's proposal on the sugar duties list _' , :-pi much objection . j 5 g Mr . Collett asked when the remission of ikaefellf would take place . _sM Sir . R . Peel . —At the earliest possible day on »'• ' -lift
the bills could be passed , excepting with regard to fe SIS which was placed in a different position from _iheo'i : |§ i articles . »|| Mr . XVilliams . — V . ' _c-uld the Right Hon . I ! uio ; :: ! _ni _' _- : || any allowance on the stock in hand ? _Sg Sir R . 1 'eei . answered in the negative . Mr . Liddell tendered his thanks to the itight He , § _5 § Baronet for the remission of the duties on the cxpoit still coals and on thc manufacture of glass . He vin & ::: §| p thc coalowners of the north from the charge of « fo §| l tion . If any gentleman would move- for a select col JfS mittec to inquire into the operation of that comHnife . § f | he would second the motion . mi
After a few observations from Lord Clements _sn'iM . mm H . Hinde , | | | Or . Bowsing expressed a wish that Fir I ! . Pedis : mm made some modification in the property-tax . wM Colonel SmrnOBr regretted that SiCfj _£ * _£ * M _*'; 5 !] :, ; ,: g || i consented to a reduction of duty on fire insJianc . Wax Mr . _ItoEin .-cK considered the source of our rtg . a jSp be tho _incoinc-tax , and he considered the injusticto ' ri- ipa income-tax and the mischief it created to be a greatds _* - _JfcSji back on the plan which Sir Robert proposed . _frjl Mr . Wakley expressed his extreme satisfaction a : ' : ¦ ¦ f >' ¦' M proposal of Government . y Several other members made observations _unisitol _&^ l
points of the plan , most of them expressive of _satufaE "&; with it . Mr . Curteis , however , declared that lie ndlt _jjji vide against thc property-tax , if he could get tenmea :: _^ divide with htm ; and Mr . Warburton surprised the _fcjSby asserting , that if you made the income-tax _permsifc '* m all thc objections urged agaiust it vanished at once . _| a Sir R . Peel thou moved that the Chairman _rejBrtf- ' _-ra gross , and ask leave to sit again on Monday . x & The motion was carried . The House rcsuiiK _.-o _.-M _' _- ' _^ _S mediately afterward * ) adjourned . its
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_Di-E . usrui . Death of a . v Aoei > Woman . _—OnTsas- | s ( . lay afternoon , between two aud three o'clock , f- ; M persons observed smoke issuing'from theliuii _^ _N'i-. | | Orchard-street , North-street , Clapliam . Tlieyrat « _s || the house , and . upon opening the door of tlic ia _^ p parlour , discovered the occupant , Mrs . Ilicliarai _, _•¦ -1 was upwards of 80 -years of ase , _lyimr on ite » f * M with nearly all her clothes burnt off . " She was _altf- m but senseless , and her body was burnt in ik f * | g frightful manner . The poor creature expired _8 _M- * M five o clock the same evening , it is not knewnn _? : _^ the fire originated , but thc deceased was aildicted _^ ; smoking , and it is supposed that whilst so \ w _»&\; | herself , some ignited tobacco fell f rom her _juj" _" _'¦ _Js set fire to her clothes . _.,, _^ Suit-IDE 3 v a Bor . —On Monday Mr . W _* iklrJ , « _--: | i '
held an _inouest at the Lion andLawk Dr _"""** _^ crescent . Eiiston-square , on the body ofTliuiiii ! _'p _^ a boy aged IS , the son oi ' a cowkeeper , who _«»»¦; _£ | * suicide . James Press , the brother of dii _*^'" : _^ he nsided with his parent * at- _•*•< , f _^ crescent . The deceased went to _sc' _- ' - _'J _** i ' _iKp sionally assisted in carrying out milk . 'X _^ _-lp last at dinner - time , it was discovered that _®^ m been playing truant , and had approp _™™ * j ] g money belonging to his parents to his _p- * ' 11 ll _ys spent it amongst some other boys . This _^ j -ijll his father ' s knowledge he boxed his ears , * _^ || should have no dinner , and threatened to ' _¦*¦•¦ _^ it Shortly before two o ' clock deceased ' s » - ' | , . _'Mi him some dinner , and then told him to _«**¦ ' ,, vil § which he did . About half-past three _tliesawf _*'"^ noon witness went into the yard , am ! _obsei ' w' : m eow-shed open , and on entering he _d- _^ f _L'fl deceased hanging by his neck _liaMlkei'em _* . ' _. j _^ _j beam . Witness gave an alarm , and Mr . ¦ jal ?! l _gi neighbour , and his _mnthei _* . Mime and cut ' _" ' {' . i
down . He was quite dead , and in order to ed .. objoot must have got on one ol ' the vails _W _ divide the cowa . and then iunvped oil . If . os _* turned a verdict—That deceased destrovcJIii " _^!; hanging , but in what state of mind he *«' " ¦'' time there was no evidence to show .
Birth. -W Thomas Slingsby Duncombe Rloyd...
BIRTH . -w Thomas Slingsby Duncombe rloyd , born * ; . tordon the 4 th of _January , andregktiw . la _** _- '" the 21 st . ult . DEATHS . :. ?• On Thursday , Fob . 6 th , after a short bsU' _% illness , Seiina _, wife of Mr . Thomas § iiulli ' ' _¦{* manufacturer , aged twenty-seven years , < lc ° l grctted by a large circle of friends . ' j A V _** TE « Ax ..-VVe have this week to « fL death of Mr . Andrew Franklin , of _Tavist _o _*** _; Covont-gavdon , in his ninetieth year . iVcarlJ _*^ years since Mr . Franklin commenced his l | tc 1 ''• hours in connexion with the Morning Foil _'f _?^ and subsequcntlyjoincd the Morninc _MvcrUf < he continued till old age compelled hun , « ' _*' . ••< since , to abandon his editorial duties , and i _v _^ private life , taking with hint the resp ect an « - , of all who had the pleasure of his _acqim- _* _' _*'" Morning Advertiser .
Bankrupts. (From Friday's Gazette. I'Eb,...
BANKRUPTS . ( From Friday ' s Gazette . I ' eb , - ¦ V _,-, , Algernon Ijniise . vFlint , _Aldei-m . 'iiibui _' . v . CitJ , t ! t ,. ; f man—William Alexander Christian , - _^ | _Lt . _'P Strand , innkeeper-John White , Great -St . Af _* ' p Seven-dials , _leather-scller-RobertMayowlw _^ s ) - ing , tea-dealer—Joseph Turner and Samue l \ _J _^ f anipton , stone-masons—John Oldham , . _*< mj _,- !' Hull , iron-founder —William Howell , . u _" _-- . JP bookseller—John Sanderson , Liverpool , _mW _ __ _^ cis John _llawlings , Cheltenham , cabine t-ma _^ _j-j _^ Watson , _Highbi _* i ( lgc , Soiiiersetsliire , sto ! ic- » ' ' :, t , _^| () Ufi : Hill , Exeter , currier—James _Mae-viHi- " - _' hosier—Jacob Wicks . Bristol , grocer . _^ _>
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Office In Tiie Same Street And Parish. W...
Office in tiie same Street and Parish . W _^( iji prietor , FEARGUS 0 _'COKXOH , _Esil-- « nllp gti M V 11 . LUH _Urwitt , of No . 18 , Ghav ! cs-str « _^ _^ street , Walworth , in the Parish of St . _»•<¦ ' _^ ffl ton , in the County of Surrey , at the _O _*^ isf Strand , in thc Parisli _£ oCSt . _Marv-lo * - ' _g City of Westminster .. || Saturday , _'Febuary lo _. lo * | g
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 15, 1845, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns3_15021845/page/8/
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