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      _^ TIlE _^ _S ? £ ter _assfce for Livespooi , iloSP _^ r . _v _* - - f Lancaster _comthesouth c-H _^ _" _^" _^ _Sr _il aron Pa rke , andJlr me „ _cc-a h ** _*^ _i _* _ Za & contains the names of justice William * . Tin , _caU _^ _^^ _^ ? h drLordshil . s satat clcrcn _«' cl _« ck . Ma / ore -Vr . _Bfl «* _jRh- * c . ) _„ _^ „ v _Waoit against the Goveksok , Cmr-4 _TflB _« OF THE _OFPICEBS , OF 1 * C _BOEOCGI . CAO _^ _-E-l'vard Kayncr Hlgl . ton , the pn >« ' , ** " _= _"** - « _£ « Carter tlie chaplain ; Chatlcs _Kofcrason Bromley , _leTrincipal turnkey ; _Willia .- Evans , the cook ; and

      j nn Jones the surgeon's assistant , of *» e borough gaol , ere indicted for having committed an assault upon John n id Mil's a schoclmaster . ft appeared from the statement of counsel and the evidenced * the witnesses that " Mr _> _Wes was appointed to the _situatwn of schoolmaster at tlie Uoroug ft _« aol in April , 18 * 1 , nwi that he continued to hold it until the latter end of'the month of Ap ril last . About nine o ' clock « n the morning of the ICthof that jnonth he met Mr . _Sightoa , the-gocernor , outside of the vails of the _saoL and that gentleman accosted him in these tonus : —** I am extremely glad , Mr . Mites , that I bare had the _Treasure of meets ;; you this morning . "

      Miles replied thatit was a matter ol no great joy , as it was a matter of _slmost-d _a % _occurraice . The governor asktd _Inta _whtSier he knew Scutch-Jemmy , a mason who had Jteea working -in tlie gaol two or three years before , to which he replied ia the affirmative . Thegovernorthen oltserved tkat he wished 55 lies to do him a particular favour , to _whichJlilessahKliat if there was anything he could do Hr _.-Eigbton _migix be perfectly _-satis-fied _tliat it did not require to he put in tlie form of a request . Tiicy * hen _eniared _tlw-gaol _, anc . went into the turnkey's lodge _together . Bromley was pa-sent . The governor took out tiro papers , ene after _the-other , and asked Miles whether he knew the hand-TOiVErg . Miles replied that he was not very sure as to the first , hut that he thought jhe had seen something very like the hand-writ

      ing of 3 he first one in the gaol before . lie also _expresses fc _» s opinion that both papers were not the production of one 'hand , hut of two different hands . The governor either-then , or subsequently , gave Miles to understand that thea < apers contained anonymous charges against him- ( tlie governor ); that they had been sent to the Mayor - , that -ht- had admitted to tbe magistrates that some ofthe statements contained in the papers wcre true , and declared tluct some were false ; that the magistrates had _forgiven him ; that he was . instructed to find out -whether tlie papers were the production of any officer uf the prison ; ; rol _rrhat if they uere , he was clothed with full power to discharge that officer without giving him a moment ' s notice , lie further told Miles that some time before he had _sorned away Scotch Jemmy's son , who had

      been employed about the gaol ; and that he was par-• Ccularly anxious that Miles should ascertain , without delay , what was the nature of Scotch Jemmy ' s feelings towards him ( tlie governor . ) Miles said that if the modus operandi were left to himself , he would endeavour to lay hold of Scotch Jemmy in an evening or two after ; and he had no doubt hut that , hy means of two or three g lasses of whi < ky , he should be able to ascertain from that person what the nature of his feelings was towards the governor . After promising to report the result hy the foUowing Saturday at farthest , they parted , the go-¦ vernor labouring at the time under feelings of apparentlystrong agitation . After dinner on the same day , the Her . Sir . Carter , tlie chaplain , entered the school , and told Miles that he had better go round to the vestry and take

      away some large printed testaments . Miles , after informing him that he had five or " six large printed testaments in the school already whicli were never allied for , went as lie was directed ; and whilst in the vestry , Mr . Carter made some allusion to tlie anonymous charges against the governor wliich had been sent to the Mayor , and said an inquiry was going to be instituted in the gaol ivith the view of discovering the author . Miles expressed an opinion that , until he had first seen Scotch Jemmy and ascertained his fellings towards the governor , it would he premature to enter upon an inquiry in the gaol . In a few minutes after , however , Miles was sent for to the -governors house , and there he found the governor , the 3 _tev . Mr . Carter , and Mr . Archer , the surgeon of the gaol . There was a table in tlie centre of the room , and two sets uf writing materials on it . Mr . Carter was the

      . first to speak , lie said , ad Iressing Miles , " Weare about to have the inquiry by calling certain persons in , and we -want you to assist us ; if you appear to be assisting us in it friendly manner wc shall lull suspicion . " After some discussion as to how the parties should be placed at the table , Miles sat down aud wi ote thequestions put , aud the answers given by the witinsses , four of whom were _^ _sauiinsd—namely , tlie porter of the prison . Bromley , oneof the defendants , Charles Fry , tlie governor ' s clerk , John Deane , a joiner . Mr . Carter put the questions , and the examination lasted about an hour and a half . — "When it was _drawing to a close , Miles heard either tlie governor or Mr . Archer say to Mr . Carter— "it ( _meaning _Miles _' s writing ) , is not like his—it ' s not like that . " "Oh 2 '' it-joined Mr . Carter , wait , tlie pa | _-er runs . " Sir . Archer then left . When the examination of the

      fourth witness had terminated , Mr . Carter pulled out his watch and said it was time for him to go to _Jiis dinner . The governor suggested the propriety of first _calling in the blacksmith , hut Mr . darter dissented , and said the blacksmith could be called tlie following day , when the inquiry would be resumed . 3 Ir . Carter then began to gather up his papers . Miles did the same witli his papers ; and whilst in tlie act of _jmttiug them in his _pot-ket . Mr . Carter said , '' Hand those papers to inc . " Miles refused , and said that they were to guide his mind in the inquiry against Scotch Jcinniy . as they contained many circumstances relative to tlie governor ' s conduct . Mr . Carter asked for them a second and a thii d time , and said that they had better be given up . as they were his papers . Miles declared that

      he would nut give them np until he had first taken an exact transcript of them ; that he had heard something -while sitting in t ' _tc room , which led him to infer that they had laid a disgraceful trap for him , and that he deemed it his duty to lay the papers before the chief magistrate along with his own comments . Some wrangling _ful _' _ivw- _'d , - and a few hunicd words passed between Mr . Carter and the governor , the former saying to the latter , ' W . ll you allow Miles to lake papers out of this Toom affecting your private character ! " Both Mr . Carter and the governor then threatened to send for a magistrntc . Miles told them they might send for a dozen magistrates if they pleased , provided they allowed him to fend a messenger for a lrgal adviser . The Governor left the room , and returned in the course of two minutes with a card of the visiting justices in his hand . He sat down and w _> ote something on a slip of paper , ¦ w hich lie handed to Mr . Carter . The latter on looking it

      over said . — " It won ' t do , you say too much . " He added , — "If Miles Wont give us up _tlwse papers , we must use ibrce . " Mr . Carter and tiie governor then came round to ihe side of tlie table at which Miles was standing . Whilst the governor was in the art of moving round the room he struck the door either with his hoot or his knuckles and in cams Bromley , the defendant . Mr . Carter said to _Hroinley , — "Mr . Miles has some papers which we must take from him ; " and when that was said , Miles gave the papers a twist in his hand as if he were going to tear _ilitin . In less than the fourth of a minute the three parties fell upon hiin . The governor took hold of one arm , 3 Ir . Carter and Bromley took hold of the other . They hauled _hi-. n about , and pressed his hack against a table in the window . He still held the papers : he had a sheet iu each hand . They kept twisting his arms above his head and behind his hack . Bromley thrust one knee into his side , and _usi-ditas the fulcrum ofa lever . Mr . Carter ran to

      oue of the _wiu-lnws , pulled it up , and called for assistance . The defendant , Evans , cameiu through thewindow , seized 3 files with both arms round the neck , and kept pulling and hauling him about . The papers were then taken _fro-n him ; and at this juriyd he ceuld scarcely breathe . The last thing he recollected was Mr . Carter crying from the lobby for more assistance . When he recovered a little he found himself in a comer against the clock , and the defendant , Jones , holding liim . He was then led down to the _oiricer _' s lodge , where Bromley shut the door , and took from him ali tlie letters , papers , and other documents he had on his person , saying that the governor had instructed him to see that he had no papers about him . He succeeded with an eftVut in getting outside tlie gate . Wiiliam Buckley , task master at the gaol , came up and took him to the Bull ' s Ht-ad , were they had a glass of whisky each , and from thence he proceeded iu a cab home , where Dr . _Marshall attended him for three weeks

      or a month . There was bl « od on his hands from the way in which he had been treated , and his brain was in such a state as he once before felt it to be in from a concussion In a railway train . His Lordship in suiniiiinj : up left it to the jury to say , in the first place , whether the defendants laid hands on the _prosecutor , a matter there did not seem any reason to doubt . Secondly , was the occasion on which this violence was oft ' ered one where the prosetutor was acting as clerk or servant , or holding himself out as their clerk or servant , and writing on their paper , in which ease tlie endeavour to . recover the paper would be justifiable , unless , thirdly , more force was used than was necessary . Verdict—Sot Guilty . Stabbing at Bolton - . —David _M-Kinley 24 , was convicted of having , at Great Bolton , feloniously stabbed and cut one Michael Kelly , with intent to do him some grievous bodily harm . He was sentenced io transporta tion for fifteen years .

      _IIobse-stealisg at "Wooltos . —James Herbert luce , Sj , who had previousl y been transported for seven years , pleaded guilty to a charge of having , at Little « _oolton , st den a bay mare , the p , operty of William _^ _mstanler . He was sentenced to transportation for ten _jrears . Stabbisg at Rochdale . —Robert Brierley 50 , ws * convicted of having , at Rochdale , stabbed , cut , and wounded his wife , _Jaue , while labouring under _intoxieaiion . He was found guilt y of ar , assault , and sentenced to twelve months' imprisonment .

      Teesdat , December 9 . _ Ccttikc asd _Wousnixc — _JuhnCatriugton was indicted f _„ r cutting and wouudi ' ng James _Uiipham at Manchester , with intent to do him _fiome grievous bodily harm . The prisoner , it appe ared « as . on the _^ th of _November last , in a public-house in Lower Moseley-street . Manchester , kept bv a person of the name of Poole , It was between the hours _ofEleven m % , _T e ? _' dock at n ! _S - A Pereo » ofthe name of « _-i _„ by was also present , who earlier in the night had _Jo-B-t a couple of books from a man who was Shilt S ? * _SSSt , ? aeof thesehe soW asain to a _" _™ _^ _name of Taylor , and a dispute arose between the

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      prisoner and Taylor on the subject , the prisoner alleging thathe himself had bought the hook . . The prisoner finally struck Taylor , and a scuffle took place between them , which was with some difficulty put an end to by the landlord and others turning the prisoner out ofthe house . He resisted very strenuously the efforts made to eject him , and was put out at last by maiu force . When he got into the street he asked a woman who was there for a knife she had in her pocket . She refused to let him have it , alleging he would he doing some mischief with it , hut he struck her , and finally succeeded in obtaining the knife . He then went to the folding-doors of the public-house , aud on Mr . Pools _vippo . j sing his entrance , struck at him through the -opening _, i Mr . Toole called out " He has drawa a knife awl is

      stabbing at me ; " and ran into the bar _parlattr . 3 > feeprisoner then succeeded in getting iuto the house , 'hating in his hand a knife , which he was brandishing about , and meeting at tlie door of the bar _ntrlour the * prosecutor , Mr . Bispham , who was running _out-on'tlie-olarDa being given , struck at him repeatedly with b * th hunds in a furious manner , piercing through his hat , and instating a wound on his arm , from wliich , -on _htscoat'beicg removed , the blood spouted to a considerable _distnnos . Some ef-the parlies present tri _pled sip the prisoner , and Oil _SBOVtring him , _< i-clasp fc « ifu , oj * n , was found lying _underfaim on the ground . The jwy found the . prisoner Guilty . His Lardship postponed passing _sentenoi , but in » a . alter part of the day the prisoner was iputto the bar , and liis Lordslii _}>* _r-c 8 a _» iikingoii the reckless _violence the prisoner _liaddispl : _ij-cd , uudoii thefcctofhkhaving beem already -convicted of felouy , sentenced him to be transported for seven years .

      _MaksXai-gsiek . —William-Ohnrnock was indicted -for the manslaughter . of . 3 ohu _Madeline , at Upholland , iu this county , by striking him witli a poker . —Tlie deceased , it appeared , had formerly resided at Upholland , _hutisad lately been resideutinLiverpool . While at Upholland lie had become acquainted with Mary Charnock , the daughter of tlie prisoner , and an intimacy took place between them , which resulted in the birth of * n ilh githnate -child . The deceased continued to call occasionally at the prisoner ' s house , a circumstance wliich gave the latter great annoyance . On the ' 21 st of September , being Sunday , he was at Upholland , and ealled at Charnock ' s house . He was then somewhat intoxicated . Charnock put him out , and , in the course ofa conversation he afterwards , during the same morning , had with a police officer at Upholland , he said , " That fellow" ( meaning Radcliffe ) ' has been at my house , and if he conies again I will help him out with the poker . " Some time after the deceased again wont to

      the prisoner ' s house . Mary Charnock was in the parlour , and tlie prisoner was upstairs . Mary Charnock requested the deceased to go away , lest her father should see him . He refused , and while this conversation was going on the prisoner caine down . He desired the deceased to leave the house , but the latter refused , and dared the prisoner to put bim out The prisoner took up the poker _fri-in the fire-place , and a scuffle took place , in the course of which the _deceased was thrown to the ground , but the witness , Mary Charnock , stated that she did not see the prisoner use the poker . Mary Charnock called for assistance , and some ofthe neighbours coming in found both struggling on the floor . They took the deceased away . . He did not then complain of being hurt , but soon after said he had got injured in his side nnd leg . One of the witnesses took him to Liverpool the same evening in a car . The next day a surgeon wns called in , who found him suffering from a bruise below the knee , which seemed to have arisen from external violence . The

      surgeon continued to attend him for about a month , duritig which he got worse , and he was finally removed to the _Northern Hospital , at Liverpool . By that time a large aiseess had formed in the thigh and about the knee-joint , which was destroyed . There was also an abscess in the chest . He died on the 9 th of November . On a post _r-iortem examination it was fouud that one of the ribs in the left side was broken , and that the abscess whicli had formed at that spot extended into the chest . He was of a very bad constitution , and it was in consequence of this that the abscesses in question became so extensive . The fracture of the rib must have been caused by , external violence , but would probably not have been fatal but for the constitutional peculiarity ofthe deceased . _"A'hile on his death-bed the deceased made a statement of the transaction , from which it would appear that on his entering the prisoner ' s house the latter came down stairs , having at that time a poker in his hand : that he struck the deceased with it in the chest and on the leg , at the places where the abscesses had formed , inflicting the

      injuries which finally produced such serious effects . Mr . Atkinson , for the defence , contended that the prisoner intruded on in his own house , as he had been , by a person whose presence necessarily was so unwelcome , and who obstinately refused to leave , had a right to eject him ; and that allowiug for certain exaggerations and mis-statements in the dying declaration of the deceased , it was clear the prisoner had used no more violence than , considering the youth and strength , aud the state of intoxication of the deceased , was necessary for that purpose . His Lordship summed up , and tliejury returned a verdict ofXot Guilty . Thuesday , Dec 11 . _—riUACY . —Thomas Sheazle , John _Copplcstine , Herman _Hinka , Thomas Bayle , J . M'Cann , and Henry Matthews , were indicted for making a revolt in the ship in which they were employed as mariners . The jury found the prisoners guilty , and his lordship sentenced Boyle to twelve months' imprisonment , Matthews to nine ,: nd Hinka and the others to six . The business of the _assizes concluded to-day .

      Yoek , Moxday , Dec . 8 . —The two learned Judges , Mr . Justice Eric and Mr . Baron Piatt , arrived in York ou Saturday last , when the commission was opened . There w _« s but one prisoner committed for trial in the city of York ; but the calendar for the county is very heavy , there being no less than 89 persons in custody or on bail , nearly all of whom are charged with felony , viz ., —3 with murder , 4 with manslaughter , 5 with stabbing and cuttiug or wounding , 5 with assault and robbery , 1 with robbery with violence , o with rape , 1 with arson , 16 with stealing from the person , 5 with a nameless offence , 5 with burglary , C with horse-stealing , 1 with cattle-stealing , 7 with sheepstealing , 1 with offence against the coin ef the realm , 4 with stealing iii a dwelling-house , 2 with at tempt to commit rape , 1 with feloniously killing a horse , 1 with receiving stolen property , I with forgery , 2 with night poaching , 1 with the same accompanied by assault , 1 with perjury , 1 with obtaining goods by false prc . te . nces , and 1 with an offence against the bankruptcy laws . ( BeforcMr . Baron Plait . )

      Charge of _Man-slaochtek . — Edward Lunn , a respectable chemist and druggist , residing in Possgate , York , and who had been out on bail , was arraigned on a coroner's inquest , which charged him with the offence of manslaughter in _oeeasiomnsr the dtath of _jVune Downcs , at the parish of St . Crucx , in York , on the 21 st of October last , by dispensing to her a phial of laudanum instead oi a cough mixture . The prosecution was abandoned , and a verdict of Not Guilty wns recorded . House _Speiling . —Thomas Wilkinson , aged fifty-two , was indicted for having , in July last , at Harlow , near Selby , feloniously stolen a horse , the property of James Wilkinson . There were other counts charging the prisoner with killing the horse with intent to steal its skin , with _stealing the skin , < lc . The jury found the prisoner Guilty , and he was sentenced to be transported for ten years .

      Wednesday , Dec . 10 . —Highway Robbery . _—Thoinas Kirk , 27 , and John Blades , 19 , two stout young men , havingniuch the appearance of railway " navigators , " were found guilty of highway robbery , aecompaiutd with brutal violeucc , on the person of an old man named William Ward . They were sentenced to be transported for life . Ciiaece or _Manslaughter . —Jonathan Bennett , aged ' 25 , a mechanic , charged with manslaughter , in Inning killed Mary Knowles , at Sheffield , on the ICth of August last , was _founiJ guilty of a common assault . It was proved that the prisoner had struck the deceased some blows , while in a state of intoxication ; but it appeared probable that she had died of apoplexy rather than from the act of the prisoner . —Sentence , to be imprisoned one week .

      _TnoasDAY Dec 11 . —Chaege of _Mohder . — George Watson was charged with having , on the 1 st of August last , at Silby , committed the crime of wilful murder , by inflicting one mortal wound and stab on the body of Elizabeth Watson , his wife . The jury acquitted him on the ground thathe was insane at the moment of committing the act .

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      TIIE CASE OF TIIE FELICIDADE . We arc informed that the judges have declared the conviction invalid on two grounds—first , that it is not piracy for the Brazilians to carry on the slave trade until they have made it to be so by Brazilian municipal law ; and , secondly , that the Fclicidade was wrongfully taken , not having any _slavi-s ou board _-, and _thc-rc-ferc that she did not become a British ship , aud was not accordingly justified in capturing the Echo .

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      GUILDHALL . Robbery . —George Hanslip , clerk in the . service ot Messrs . Cash and Co ., of Wood-street , warehousemen , was brought up for final examination , charged with stealing a quantity of silk waistcoatings _, and other goods . His mother , Olivia , was also charged with receiving a part of the goods , which she had caused her landlady to pledge _. The pr isoners were committed for trial . W ORSIIIP-STREET . Monday . —A Brctal Husband . —John Peters , a man of very dissolute appearance , described as a journeyman coach-smitli , was charged at the instance of the parish authorities of Bethnal-green , with having cruelly ill . treated and neglected his wife and child , whereby they had become chargeable to that parish . It appeared from the evidence ofthe wife , a care-worn and delicate-looking woman , that she had been married about three years to the prisoner , who was a very worthless character , and had compelled her to support Lira in idleness and dissipation , out of the scanty pittance she was enabled to earn at her trade of a weaver . During nearly the whole of this period he subjected her to great personal violence , aad on her return home on the evening of Thursday week ,

      and presenting him with half-a-erown , which was all she had obtained by her day ' s labour , the prisoner flew into a _ttrribfc rage , and loading her with the most _abominat-le _epithets for bringing home so small a sum , struck her several v _& _Jjent blows , kicked heron the lower part ofthe person , au _£ forced her into the street , with an infant only twelve mootos _« Id in her arms . She succeeded in getting again into the _hou'se , and sought protection in the apartments of her landlo rd , hut was instantly pursued by the prisoner , who recom / nenced his ill-usage , when the landlord interposed and _compelled him to quit the room . The prisoner then retired to "is own apartment , in which , after smashing everything to pieces , he burnt the whole

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      of her wearing apparel , and nailing up' the' room door */] swore thp . t he would _murdcrahy one who attempted to enter . The police were _appalled to to stop this destruction , but declined to interfere , and the witness in-consequence was « _c-HiEcllod to take -reftige at the house-of her father , in _whi-ch she had been _shece staying , supported at the expense -of the parish . Mr . Broughton severely _aniintdvcrtcd upon the prhoncr _' _s brutal behaviour , and ovderedhiiato pay a ¦ penalty to the Queen of-59 s ., or in defeu . lt , to undergo two months' imprisonment and hard labour in tfee House of'Correction ; and expressed a hope that , _a-s-seo-n-as he was -liberated from prison , the parish _twfihoritks would sue him for the _cxjiorrae flier had been pat to in _supportwig _htsfoirily . The fine was not paid , •» nd the . prisoner wasveROved in the van . _„™ . _™ i _an . _v _miirnir « iVtW _Unm * L- 'I

      Ti & esday ,. —ExteaOboinaky Cas « . —Mr . til . Sproules Edwa # ds , a _mkldle-oged man of resneatiibk appearance , desoribed-as -xn ornnnental pain * er , was _placed at the hair before Mr . Biugltam , charged , in the words of tlie . police sheet , " with liaving created a disturbance in a crewded congregation asscmbled « t the _« TVee Church in Wfaite ' s-row-, Spitalriilds , whert « by . thc lives of individuals ¦ Iras been _-fodangered . " The _Jtev . George Montgomery West , l ) . D ., stated . that he _wasstheminisiur of the above _jdace of worship , winch had h ' ean duly _Ueoiuod lor the performance of divine service , -although at present not under _episcopal . _jurisdiction . He had known the defendant for some lime as a prominent member of professed iahdels , occupying a building in Whitechapel , denominated Hall of Science , several of whose members having , « ome . weeks since , intruded into his church , and

      publicly challenged a discussion upon the comparative merits of Atheism and Chistianity , The witness , at the suggestion of some friends , had accepted the challenge , which ultimately resulted in the withdrawal ofthe champions of infidelity from the contest . The rev . gentleman then proceeded to say that for the infomiationand instruction-of the inhabitants of Ihe district , a New 'Zealand ehief had heeu lately engaged to deliver a course of lectures on the rise and progress of Christianity through the agency of the _missionnries in the southern hemisphere , and at the second meeting , which took place on the preceding evening , and was attended by at least 2 , 000 respectable auditors , many of whom were ladies , the lecturer had just arrived at a most impressive part of his address , when the defendant , from a conspicuous part oftbe gallery , suddenly interrupted him with a chain of

      offensive interrogations , and speaking at the top of his voice , charged him with being an impostor , whose sole object was to make _monej-, although in fact no charge whatever for admission had been made to the public . * ¦ The defendant had no sooner commenced the interruption than , hy apparent previous concert , a most extraordinary and discordantcombination of hissing , yelling , and screaming suddenly resounded in the church , which continued for at least a quarter of an hour without intermission , and produced such terror and excitement in the female portion ofthe uudience , that witness deemed it liis duty to dissolve the assembly , but as the uproar still continued without the slightest abatement , and a serious riot appeared to be in contemplation , he at length sent out for the assistance ofthe police , several of whom soon arrived , and the defendant was given into custody . The defendant ' s removal

      had the effect of restoring instant order among the auditory , and the lecturer having _betn prevailed upon to resume his discourse , the assembly quietly separated ; but as the third and concluding lecture would shortly be delivered , he must apply for the protection of the magistrate against the recurrence of a similar scene of violence and uproar , which he understood had been threatened by the defendant and other supporters of the Hall of Science , in revenge for the discomfiture their party had sustained . The complainant add- d , that he had several witnesses in attendance , but the defendant stated , that on entering the church , a scene of disorder and confusion , which he could only liken to that usually exhibited in the gallery ofa theatre , hod commenced among the congregation , who so far from displaying the respectability that had been represented , consisted generally of persons hi

      the . lowest class of society . He made his way with some difficulty up the aisle , and on casting his eye upon the platform , he observed a man fantastically bedizened in the equipments of a savage , who was described in the printed bills as a certain New Zealand chief named " Pakc-a-ltange , " or "Son ofthe Clouds , - *' but whom ho ( defendant ) , on closely scrutinising , instantly recognised as an Irishman named Byrne , whom hehad known for the last twenty years as travelling about the country exhibiting himself at different fairs , booths , and public-houses , in the character he had upon this occasion assumed . As soon as he recovered from his surprise , in order to undeceive the audience , he addressed the lecturer by his . real name of Byrne , and inquired how long he had been in England ; but the only reply the lecturer deigned to give consisted of

      some strange guttural sounds _clesely resembling the " gobbling" of a turkey , accompanied by a series of rapid gesticulations denoting a determination not to satisfy his curiosity . Feeling quite posiiive _, however , as to the identify of the lecturer ' s person , he continued to press the question , and the lecturer at length , in ' very good English , said thathe had been two years and seven mouths in this country ; but being conscious ofthe falsehood of this _statement , he felt it his duly to denounce- liim to the audience as an impostor , and to give a snort detail of his past history and exploits . The previous confusion which had existed was greatly increased by this exposure , and the police having been sent for , he was forthwith dragged out of the edifice , and conveyed to the _stHtion-house . In reference also to the assertion of the reverend doctor that no money had been rcceivi d from the auditors , he felt it righttn state that that gentleman had himself put it to a show of hands wh ether twopence or

      threepence should be collected from each individual present , and the former proposition was carried by acclamation . — Mr . Bingham said that the question as to the character of the lecturer was not then heforu him ; but even sunposing him to be an impostor , he entertained great doubt if the defendant had pursued a strictly legal course in publicly announcing tlmtfaettoacrowiledassuinblage , the probable effect of which would he to produce a scene of discord and disturhanc -, whicli might end in serious consequences . He would give the defendant full credit for a conscientious desire to unmask what he believed to be an imposition , but he should have resorted to a safer course of procedure to accomplish his purpose , and as the complainant was apprehensive of further annoyance , he felt it necessary to _require the defendant to enter into his own recognizance and find sureties for his peaceable behaviour for the next three months . —The required recognizances were immediately put in , and the defendant left thecourt with his friends .

      MAB . YLEBONB . Monday . — Staubing by a Soldier . — William M'Carthy , a corporal in the Royal Marines , stationed at Dfptford , and who was for some time a constable in the D division of police , was placed at the bar before Mr . llawlinson , sharged with having stabbed in the eye with his bayonet , a young man named John Muggridge . rrior to any evidence being gone into , Inspector Tcdinan handed to the magistrate a certificate from one of the surgeons at Middlesex Hospital , which set forth that the sufferer was , owing to a wound inflicted upon him , unable to attend . William Henright deposed : I live at No . 15 , Graf ton-court . Between nine and ten o ' clock last night I was standing at the corner of Grotto-passage ( close to this court ) , and two girls were there , one of

      whom was named Elizabeth Diblev . Prisoner was there , and he spoke to one ofthe girls , when Dibley said to her , " If you don ' t go away , and have nothing to say to him I'll tell your brother . " Upon this the prisoner slapped Dibley ' s face , and she returned it . _Mujrgridge , the wounded man , came up , and said to the girl , " What's the . matter ? eome home with me , and if he follows us we'll chuck him out of the window . " Prisoner said , " Will you t" and Muggridge then repeated the threat , the girl also saying , " So we will . " The prisoner then put his hand to his side , and drawing forth his bayonet , made a thrust at Muggridge , whom he stabbed somewhere iu the head _. He then returned his bayonet to its sheath . Other witnesses were heard , and the prisoner was remanded till Monday next .

      Tuesday , —Violent Outrage by a Military Officer . —Lieutenant-Colonel Talbot , residing at . No . 0 , Dourocottages , St . John's-wood , attended before Mr . Eawlinson to answer the charge of having violently assaulted a journeyman plasterer , named John Rainos _, Complainant stated that on the evening of the 4 th instant , after he had left his work , he was proceeding towards his home , accompanied by two other workmen , whom he had occasion to leave for a short period in tlie l'ark-road . They went on without him ; and soon afterwards , as he was about to rejoin them in South-bank , he passed the defendant , who struck him violently with his umbrella , and knocked him down . He got up as soon as he was able , and was again attached by liim ( defendant ) , who gave him a blow with his list . Lieut .-Co ' . onel Talbot , on

      being asked what he had to say , stated that on the evening alluded to several men passed him in a very disorderly manner , and amongst them was complainant , who alter attempting to trip him up hy the heels , van oft'with the view of effecting his escape . He ( defendant ) pursued him , and on coming up with him complainant attempted to strike him . He then , in his own defence , gave him ( complainant ) a blow . The magistrate decided the case by ordering defendant to pay -10 s ., and an additional 2 s ., the cost of the warant . Complainant here stepped forward and said that in consequence of _defendant's conduct towards him he had lost three day ' s work , and had also been obliged to go to a doctor . Mr . Rawlinson : I can't help it ; the fine goes to the Queen , but I had rather that the defendanthad made you some satisfaction . The penalty and costs were paid .

      _SOUTHWAUK . Tuesday . —Chaiice of Yioiatiox . —Louis Ilorson . described as a French merchant , was charged wilh violating the person of Susannah _Taine , a girl between fifteen and sixteen years of age . The complainant stated , that she went to live with the prisoner , who was a married man , in the capacity of nursery-maid , on the 18 th ult ,, and that a week afterwards , during the temporary absence of his wife , he committed the alleged ott _' ence . The complainant described the particulars of the assault , which are unfit for publication . That it took place in the drawing-room , aud that she calicd out as loud as she could , but no one heard her , owing to tlie position in which she was held during the perpetration of the offence . She

      admitted , however , " that ' she did not communicate what had occurred to her to her mother until a week afterwards . The complainant was strictly examined by the magistrate as to the ci . use of her not divulging what had happened to her until a week afterwards , and her reply was that her father was a passionate man , and she was afraid on that account . The prisoner , in the most emphatic manner , declared that he was innocent of the offence and that thecharge was trumped up bv the girl and her mother in order to victimise him . After ' a lengthened examination , during which a medical certificate was produced , describing the injuries sustained by the complainant , the magistrate said that instead of sending the pri- _, _soncr for trial on the capital charge , he should hold hint

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      ' -b » i \*> r the assaalt , wltri the intent , _& c ., and should call npon him to enter into his own recognizance of jBlUO , and find two -sureties of £ 00 each , to answer the charge at the ensuing session . —The prisoner not being prepared with the _requisite " bail was committed . THAMES . The aiabgh * Murder , on Board the Tory . —On Monday -a certificate was forwarded to Mr . Broderip , at the _Xfcaoces polioe-court , but was not openly read , stating that _"Seotgc _Johnstone , late master of the Tory , would uses be _afthshra attend the proposed examination of the day _feilkuwdng , -and the case has been adjourned for another _«\ e * k . tb _-baUIbr the _^ M , _rvith the intent , _tc ., and should

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      [ Con United from our first page . J the sain of . -615 , proposed to be given to eacli shareholder , should " remain as a lien upon tlie property . Under these circumstances , he most cordially seconded tlie motion . Did not anticipate that tlie sum would be limited to £ 15 . Ma-. M . W . Wheeler objected tothe money advanced _beai-in !; interest , as in that case , the occupants would have to pay Litcrest and rent . Mr . Leech : This branch of the subject is of vital importance to the stability of the society . He should propose , that the directors should retain the sum to be advanced to the _shareholders in their hands , and lay it out for them . lie was against all advances to the shareholders . This question had been discussed

      in Manchester for nearly two months , and unanimously adopted . It becomes tlie duty ofthe directors to look to tbe stability and security of tbe society . The profits arising to the shareholder from the employment of agricultural labourers is immense . Tlie location of members totally unacquainted with agriculture would be disastrous to the society . It is a very dangerous precedent to deposit money in the hands of any person who may choose to take a share ; for if every person that chose to pay his money could obtain £ 15 or £ 20 , by paying £ 2 10 s , the society would soon be inundated with the lowest class of persons , and every prig in Manchester would tlien have a share . He then moved— " That for the belter

      security of the members of this association , to prevent , as far as possible , the chance of failure , and , at the same time , inspire that confidence amongst the shareholders so essential to the success of the Land Association , the directors be empowered to employ labour in cultivating the land and putting in the crop , during the time that the house , and other necessary offices , are being erecting ; tlio purchase of seed , implements of husbandry , &<• ., and to pay for the same out of the £ 15 lCs . 8 d . ; the surplus , if any , to be given to the shareholder on his taking possession of his allotment , The preferenccof employment to be given to such shareholder as may have a knowledge of agriculture , who may apply for the same . "

      Mr . O'Connor would rather pay £ 20 an acre for land that had not been broken up for twenty years , than £ 20 per acre for land that had been broken up for twenty years . Grass _land _^ is the best land . If the resolution was made inviting , instead of compulsory , he would support it . Mr . Leach : There is nothing compulsory in the resolution ; but if there was , it was no more so than the other resolutions of the society ; as tliey are made as stringent as possible for tlie purpose of being obeyed . Those who are tlie most ignorant of agricultural pursuits are the most anxious to go upon the land , Mr . O'Connor : When the land is bought , the cottage will be built before the occupation of the land by the members . Mr . Clark : Upon the success of the first allotment mainly depends the success of the ( dan . The directors ought to have the power of deducting from the sale of the first crop the money that may be expended in tho production .

      Mr . G . W . Wheeler was surprised to hear Mr . Clark state that the sum mentioned in the rules could not be given to the _shareholders . There had not been any assertion of the sort , for the directors would he able to give it . Mr . O'Connor : The directors are bound to give the money j but not to give it to the disadvantage of die society . lie never contoniplated that the money would ever be returned . If any man had entered the _society in the mere presumption tbat he was to have £ lo , and then not to contribute towards tlie location of his poorer brethren , he would be mistaken . Mr . _Vi . llance : The question is whether the £ 15 i & to be given or lent . His opinion was that the amount ought to be given and not t > be charped with interest . There was no better manure applicable to land than that furnished by a pair of arms with a spade at the end of them , lie was an advocate for the money to be ffiven , and not to be charged with interest .

      Mr . Wheeler : There would be more trouble in keeping t ! _-. c accounts relative to the interest , besides the difficulty of collecting the amount , should the character of this society be lost by refusing to comply with the proposals contained in their present rules . Mr . O . W . Wheeler : Une of the grand inducements held out to persons to become members has been the fact of giving the shareholders the £ 15 10 s . Sd . The cost of seed , in various instances , are not , as has been stated , £ 15 ; in one case a man who cultivated two and _a-liall * acres was £ 1 7 s ,, and in another £ 1 2 s . 9 d . Mr . O'Connor was against placing the money in the hands of any of the parties , but in favour of charging them with interest , let it be ever so small .

      Mr . Poole : The reason why he should support the motion before the bouse was , that every member would have a security that they would , one time or tiic other , be located . Mr . Taylor : In the districts with which he was acquainted , they had , during the last winter , turned over with the spade t \\ o acres of land , and the sum paid for wages amounted to upwards of £ 12 . Mr . T . M . Wheeler ; > If the sum of £ 15 ICs . Sd . were to be a loan , bearing interest , the society ought not to charge more than £ 4 a-ycar for tho rent of the eoltngo . The loan fund proposed to bo established was for tlie purpose of making up the deficiency between the sum advanced on mortgage _^ and the sum that would be obtained for tlie estate in the retail market . When you charge him with interest on tlic £ l _510-s _. Sd . advanced , in the shape of rent , you propose now to charge him an additional interest for his advance of money .

      Mr ' M'Grath : There can be no mistake that the great responsibility rests upon the shoulders of Mr . O'Connor ; for wr . ile the directors might escape , should there be a failure of the society , its failure would cm h him . The value of the interest is not worth the expense of collection . In all cases of mortgage the value of tho thing sought to be mortgaged was taken into consideration , lie had no doubt that the society could get the money . Mr . Saunders moved a further amendment , but the hour of adjournment having arrived , the discussion was adjourned till the next morning . The conference adjourned .

      THURSDAY SITTINGS . Mr . Sherrington in the chair . The Itoll having been called , several members were declared to be absent . The minutes of the proceedings of Wednesday read , was moved by Mr . Doyle and seconded by Mr . Yates , that they be confirmed , which was carried unanimously . Mr . Cuftay moved that the standing orders be resumed . Mr . Knight seconded the motion . On a division there appeared for the motion live _against live . The chairman decided in favour of the motion . The following resolutions were proposed just at the close ofthe proceedings of yesterday , the discussion upon which was adjourned till the morning : —

      It was moved by Mr . O'Connor , " That each shareholder , upon being appointed to his allotment , shall be lia _' _ilc to 2 . per cent , interest upon all moneys advanced by the directors , and that the payment of such interest shall continue until the last draft ol the first section of shareholders shall be located , and then , and not till then , the payment of such interest to cease , and tlio occupant be discharged from payment of further interest . Mr . Poole seconded the resolution : This resolution was ultimately withdrawn .

      Mr Saunders moved , and Mr Taylor seconded : — " That , as the allotments are made , and cottages are built tliei'eon , the trustees and board of directors shall , f : - the amount of rent to be paid by the occupiers , such holders shall receive a loan from this society ( say £ 15 1 . 0 s . Sd . for one share , £ -31 13 s , 4 d , for two shaves ) which shall be repaid to the trustees for the use of this society , and such occupier to pay £ 3 per cent , per annum , until such loan be repaid , and tlie trustees shall withhold all title deeds , or have some other security for such loan until it is repaid , but such occupier shall be allowed to repay it to the trustees by instalments , and his interest to be reduced accordingly . "

      Mr . Doyle : The very idea of interest is so repugnant to the feelings of the great body of shareholders , that he should be afraid to attend a public meeting after the conference , aud decided in favour of charging interest—it would be much better to make a direct charge . Mr . O'Connor supported the motion of Mr . Leach . Mr . Cuffay ; . It was his wish to have the society conducted so as to get the members located as soon as posssble . If the conference laid down good rules what temptations it would hold out to persons to join ' and concluded by moving the following resolution : — " That each shareholder shall receive two acres of

      land , a cottage , and £ 15 10 s . Sd ., for whicli tlie minimum rent shall be £ 5 10 s . per year , until each shareholder of the division to wliich hebelon « s shall be located ; when that is the case his rent shall be reduced to £ 5 per annum . Mr . Knight seconded the resolution . The shareholders have been induced to become members from the fact of the bonus offered by the directors The proposition of Mr . Leach , no doubt , will be received throughout the whole country , but still lie considered that it was better to charge on extra rent instead of interest . # O'Connor : Every person has argued tlie question as though it was a loan that was to be paid back —it is no such thing—it never was expected thatit would be paid back , We are not doing an injury to

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      any p erson . The Society proposes to lay down a sum at which they can start and carry out their purpose without any danger . Ho would rather give £ 15 an acre for good land than five shillings an acre with a cottage for poor land . Good land requires less labour . The poorer the ground the more seed is required to cultivate it . A great many of the shareholders will not require ' advance . Mr . Vallance : Mr . Leaclie _' s motion was endeavouring to throw a covering over the words , loan or gift . "Yet Mr . Leach ' s resolution states , that ail shareholders should be subject to the interest of the any person . The Society _ptoposfiatolay down a sum |

      advance , whereas it has been argued , that there are many persons who would not require it . Mr . Saunder ' s resolution , however , does state the amountof the loan and the rate of interest to be charged . Any person who may have received any loan from the society should be compelled to pay it back at the last location—supposing a man liad _. received £ 20 , and on the settlement of the afi ' aifs of the society there appeared only £ 10 due to him , he should then be considered as a debtor to the society , and compellable to pay the difference to enable the directors to keep faith wi _* . h the other shareholders .

      Mr , O'Connor moved , and Mr . Dixon seconded that the standing orders be suspended . Carried unanimously . Mr . Dixon : There is already an interest charged for the £ 15 10 s . 8 d . in the shape of rent . Now if a person does not take the money , would he be charged with interest . Mr . Taylor : Tho proposed sum is not the property ofthe society . If the plan or bonus be adopted you have no claim upon the party borrowing the

      money . Mr . Leach : The amount is not a lean , but a gift , as you hold out these inducements to persons to become members—two acres of land—a cottage—and £ 15 in money . Those parties who do not require an advance will not be injured—while those who do require it will be very much benefited . Mr . G . W . Wheeler stated that it was necessary that the directors should have some security for the money advanced . His resolution proposed that the money should not be advanced at once , but spread over a distance of time . The resolution , however , fell to the ground for want of a seconder .

      Mr . M'Grath : Whenever you depart from a princip le you get into error . In this case the advance must he regarded as a right , the individual has as much right to receive the money as he has to receive the land and cottage . Decidedly in favour of fixing a definite sum . It appears that some of the members of the conference seem to think that you would not get the parties to accept £ 15 instead of £ 15 10 s . 8 d . Mr . Clark : There is already an interest charged in the rent . There is no doubt , that it is an admitted right that the parties should receive the amount promised . The feelings of the members decidedly would be in _lavotir of paying any extra _s-um , provided they were guaranteed that they should be repaid at the time when all the parties were located .

      Mr . Smith : There can be no right—as the members cannot have a right till all the members arelocated—the advance must , therefore , be considered as a loan—as there cannot be a rig ht till there is a surplus , the shareholders can only have a right in the surplus . t _, . Mr . O'Connor , in answer to a question from Mr . Taylor as to whether the directors had any claim after accepting the bonus of 5 s . or 10 s . over the £ 15 , stated that he did not lake one step without consulting counsel . He was not going to be a party to any

      resolution that would cut the throat oi the society . The rules must not be repugnant to law , neither must they be repugnant to equity . He was providing against any contingencies , and considered that the minimum proposed was the least security that would be proposed . There can be no doubt of ihe success ol the plan , and instead of the money to be divided at the termination of tlie society , amongst the members is more likely to be over than under £ 50 . Mr . Hobson asked permission to withdraw his motion in favour of that proposed by Mr . Saunders , which was granted .

      On a division there appeared—Fur Mr . Cuffay 1 " Mr . Leach H " Mr . Saunders 1 Mr . Leach moved the resumption of the consideration of the proposition , made to the conference yesterday , of allowing the directors to employ agricultural labourers for the purpose of preparing tlie ground . Mr . O'Connor : This is not only a proper , but a useful proposition . The man takes possession of his

      _cottage as soon as completed—this will enable the directors cither to sell or morgagc the land , < fcc , great advantage . If this proposition is not adopted , you will have no labour upon the land until the cottage is built . He hud no objection to become steward . Mr . Knight said , had not this motion been brought forward , lie should have been compelled to cmp . oy a person to cultivate his land when he obtained it , and lie was perfectly well aware that his voting for it would satisfy his constituents , who were generally mechanics of various trades . The motion was carried unanimously .

      Mr . Leach moved and Mr . Doyle seconded , the _following resolution , whicli was carried ,-, " That each shareholder , alter being located upon his allotment , shall pay to the society the sum oi 5 s . per share as a _bonu-s for the _beuelit such member has received from the society each year , until the whole of the members of the section to which sueh member belongs shall have been located upon the land , whence all l ' _nrthtv demands upon _stu-h member shall cessc , and then all profits and bent tits arising from the property of tlusociety to be equitably divided amongst all the shareholders of the society as soon as the directors and trustees shall be able to dispose of the same to the best advantage . Mr . O'Connor was decidedly against any person holding more than lour acres . The conference must decide as to the manner in which the person holding two shares shall be located .

      Mr . Dixon was instructed to advocate the principle of no _pei-aon holding more than two acres , and concluded by moving the following resolution ;— "That the rule ' as to shares be as they arc now , namely , two acres ; at the same time any " person may be allowed to hold as many shares as they think proper ; but , in no case , to have more than two shares , or four acies , iii one allotment . " Mr . Clark : There can bo no difficulty in settling this question . There is no provision in the _prcsi-nt rules as to the way in which those parties holding two shaves arc to be balloted for their prize . Mr . Ilobson : The best plan to be adopted is that when the land is purchased , the number of shareholders , distinguishing the double shareholders irom those holding one , and then divide the land into so many farms as to provide for those holding four acres and those holding two . If _yuti allow a person to hold more than he can occupy you introduce the subletting system .

      Mr . Cuffay would oppose any motion enabling any shareholders from holding more than four acres . Mr . Knight ; The plan was instituted for the erecting of an _independent class of farmers . The shareholders of Lambeth , are decidedly in favour ' of not allowing any shareholder to hold more than four shares . The proposition opens a wide field for creating an aristocracy of fanners , and enables persons to take shares for the express purpose ot getting the control of the society . Mr . Sherrington : It never was contemplated by the Scotch members , that any peison should hold _liioi-e than four acres . The rent is not fixed to any individual to whom the farm _* may be subject , though the rent is fixed as between the society and the original shareholder . Mr . O'Connor : The object of a man holding more than two acres is , that he looks to the land to secure his r . tte of interest as the best securitv for the

      advance of capital . There is no dilliculty in preventing a member from sub-letting . There are always clauses introduced into leases providing for the fo : - feiture of the lease , if certain conditions not performed or violated . It is to be hoped that very stringent clauses will be introduced into the leases . Mr . Taylor asked whether a provision could be made in the leases to prevent persons ' from holding more than four acres from subletting . Mr . Hobson : What advantage can be derived from keeping open the question of how many shares a member may hold . It should be confined to tlit ease where a man may require cither one share oi two shaves . You cannot prevent premiums being given , notwithstanding nil the stringent clauses that may be introduced ; and , allowing shareholders to hold more than four acres , would introduce the principle of sub-letting .

      Mr . O'Connor - . With regard to premiums Mr . Ilobson sccins to forget that there is such a powci as coercive law . If a man takes a premium he ha ? violated the lease , and it becomes forfeited . Many persons with money would , no doubt , conic into tin society , and make loans merely on the idea of guaranteeing the interest upon their money . He wonld rather see the question confined to thctact , that no person should be allowed to hold more than two shares . 1 ' ou will recollect that you _ai-3 not to legislate for lawyers , but for parties who have a great aversion to law and lawyers . Mi ' . Clark stated lie had received instruction from Bath of parties being willing to advance certain sums of money by way of loan—had no fear of capitalists coming " into the society and breaking it up—but at the same time they ought to have the privilege ol receiving interest for the capital advanced .

      Mr . \ iheeler : _loti cannot guard against a man holding as many shares as he pleases . Adjourned .

      AFTERNOON SITTING . Mr . Dixon , in resuming the debate , said that he understood the present object of ibis society was to break down the system of large farms . There are a great many persons who would willinglv give £ 10 a year for two acres of ground and a cottage . He concluded by reading his resolution as altered : " That the rule as to allotments should be as follows —namely , two acres , three acres , and four acres ; at the same time , any person may be allowed to hold as

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      many shares as they think proper hut _;» _"~^ occupy more than four acres : ' - ' no Ca _sc to Mr . _VaJJaiice : Is the question of the _siw , ' i number of shares to be considered ta _^ f ? _^ t ! avourof dividing the shares ffi , uJ ?\\ t * " tour acres , the pr . ee of a _twtmere slIiirc , ' TO » ' « l a three-acre share to be * S 15 s ., d tl . P " _^ \ tour-acre share to be £ 5 , but in no case Lll ! l _, _^ * ot the allotments be for more than four ac r ' r * numbers ot persons who arc sliaieliold ., ' _= , ICil t first allotment to be strictly wi _« to tu * _^ The respective classes to be ' balloted for _ tt _^ _- times . He most cordiall y seconded the _m _, l _!? avat _« Mr . Poole supported the motion lut , ° _"* Mr . Wheeler : We are all determined ti shareholder ' shall occupy more than four _aci-ofi " will you confine a shareholder to the number of I . " that he shall hold ? Would you object to , „ , _" * subscribing for as many shares and ili «„„ " lllan them either by gift or othonvise , 11 h ? tTil proper . ' "U'K many shares as thev think _nm _™ . i _.... ' ! S S

      Mr . Canning , Mr . Gilbertson , and Mr . SauiuW , supported the resolution . us Mr . Shaw ; Mr . Cuffay ' s and Mr . Dixon ' s motion _, are two separate and distinct questions . Uis i „ structions would justify him in voting for Mr . _Cufiay amendment , while on the other hand Mr . Dixop sua that a shareholder may purchase as many shar es ' . " , ; he pleases , but not allowed to occupy mure _tunn ftair acres . Every man has a right to just as miicli land as he can cultivate . He should support tlie nmi ; , _„ of Mr . Cuftay . # ( __ ull 0 u Mr . Dixon would withdraw liis motion by Dermic . sion of the conference , which was agreed to . _}\ t Cuffay ' s motion was then carried unanimously . Mr . Clark : The next question that wi ' ll conic under consideration is the question of the ballot He would , therefore , submit a resolution fbi- the con . " ference , but should any other person propose a n _* vC eligible plan , he should consider himself at liberty to withdraw liis own proposition , and support t _' lmt which he censidered more applicable to the case

      . Mr . O'Connor : The value of land in Lancashire is not so dear as might have been supposed , as parlies prefer letting land lie waste , becanse the proprie tors can make more interest of tlieir money from labour . Near Cheshire there is a quantity of land to be sold which would cost about £ 20 an acre . You can ' t go into the market aud say that you will buy a certain quantity ot land of tabular value—you can ' t buy land of the same complexion . 1 contend that you must buy your land before you ballot for occupants . Mr . T . M . Wheeler detailed his view ofthe

      manner in which the ballot for occupation was to be made , and Mr . Clark agreed to withdraw his resolution , and second that of Mr . Wheeler . Mr . Wheeler then moved , " That the members resident in shall elect ten persons , not being paid-up shareholders , in conjunction with tl-. e directors , to superintend the allotment in the following manner : —The committee shall examine the secretary ' s book , and place in a vessel the name of each person who lias paid up his share , or shares . They shall then place in a similar vessel a determined number of _ni-izes

      each prize representing one acre , with blanks to make them equal to the number of paid-up members . Two _disinterested parties shall then draw the names ' and the prizes and blanks shall be apportioned as follows : —The holder of one share , if he draw _, i prize , shall have two acres ; if one share and a half three acres ; if two shares , four acres ; until the whole of the number of prizes or acres are drawn . Mr . Ilob _.-on : iThc arrangement proposed by Mr . Wheeler will clog the exertions of the societv , ' Equality of . 'benefit ought to be the object ofthe

      society . In some instances you would have to give one man more , and another less , than Ilis quantity r , j land . The allotment . * - , when made , should be num . bored , lie then moved the following resolution -.-" That when a purchase is made , the directors slmil divide the same into allotments of , say two , three , and four acres , in proportion to the number of each ' class then entitled to occupy ; and the ballot for suck respective allotments shall be taken _separau-ir among the respective classes , Mr . Vallance seconded the resolution . '

      Mr . Doyle : Unless you _classifylthedifFerc-ntelnsscs of shareholders you will cause great dissatisfaction amongst the great majority of the members . Uy classification you get rid of all angry _feelings . Mr . Clark would withdraw , if permitted , ' lis support of Mr . _Wlueler ' s motion , and support that of Mr . Ilobson . Mr . Wheeler did not wish to press his motion to a division , but merel that it should stand as his opinion upon the subject of the ballot . Tho motion of Mr . Hobson and Vallance was then carried unanimously .

      Mr . Clark : The next business to come before the conference is that of the transfer of shares . Without _yoing into detail , he would move the following resolution , — "That in the event of members residing in districts Nus . 2 , ' 3 , 4 , or 5 , and winning a prize in the ballot for t _' lo location in district No . 1 , ami not wishing lo take possession of such allotment , t ' uey shall have the privilege of giving up such allotment to be balloted for amongst the members in the district where the location may be situated , aud who have paid up theirshares , and who were unsuccessful in the first ballot . " Mr . Foolo seconded the motion .

      Ihe Chairman ; The difficulty is very near at band , and only coming nearer to the principle advocated by Mr . Ilobson . There may be a good many of the English people who would not go to Scotland " ; and if the ballot was lo be then open for the whole shareholders you might go on ad libitum before you obtained parties who would locate in the Scottish districts . Alt ' . 1 . W . Wheeler was most decidedly against the proposition of Mr . Clark , lie then entered into a detail of his plan for the transfer of shares . The plan was most unjust , and attended with the most mischievous _cons-equences to the shareholders . Mr . Clark explained that when a party who had drawn a lot prize and should not like to locate iu the district where the land was purchased , that then the prize should be balloted for among the other shareholders in the district .

      Mr . O'Connor : The object should have been ia divide the country into as many districts as there was a possibility , instead of limiting the division , whicli had been done by the resolution already wins to . The object of the society was to realise as many practical results of tho plan as possible . Mr . _Uinii , in giving explanation , had mis-stated what lie _lVe'S to explain . Dy not divulging the place where the locations arc to be , you give an impetus to the _sliareholderi in paying : up their shares , which , if it mi known where the location was to be made , the shareholders in that district would Jose no time in paying up their shares . Mr . Vallance would lay before the conference _K > ideas upon the subject , lie submitted a moth *!' , te it was subsequently withdrawn .

      The Chairman supported the resolution of - Vr . Vallance . Air . Shaw would support the motion of Mr . Vallance . The fact is , that if the land is purchased is Manchester , and a shareholder lives in Leeds , _ty ought to have the opportunity of _rellnquishm-, ' ,: _' prize by giving notice to tbe secretary that he _&& not require to be located at present ; and that 'i ' _- he should be balloted for again , when the land 1111 $ bo purchased near this own home . Mr . O'Connor strongly supported the views of Mr _- Wheeler , as the only plan . that was likely t « sty satisfaction to the members , namely , to go 011 _tliivi'S the list till you mot with persons who would _s ° " the land purchased .

      Ihe Chairman said , Mr . Clark's svstem was bungling proposition . The plan of Mr . " Vallance _«* the most just . Under eiihor ofthe propositions you will find , that you might have forty ballots beto you obtained the requisite number of shareholder . * - . . Air . ilobson : What was the main reason 'vi '' _* ' _" caused the proposition made bv him to be _ri-joriu why , that you ought to give the chance to all " f . shareholders to come in in the first allotment- » there should be two ballots , justice says , that r >' second ballot should take place between those ' . vJl participated in the first . But what Mr . _Chu-k

      proposes now , is to give the man a chance oi _reuiiuiir : a chance of giving his lot to another person wlio _* iw not draw a prize . Why- should that he _allo'W ; The most judicious plan would be , to ballot f _* _' ' '" / . _' _* ' whole of the shareholders . Mr . Vallancc ' s reiolu- _^ does recognise the principle of equality . . . Mr . Leach could sec so much of simplicity «» j views of Air . Wheeler , that he cannot iiiiilcrs « 1 " . . what objection there could be to it . Mr . t' _!;*'' _*^ plan allows . 1 man who refuses to go at one bah - ' - ' take precedence in a second ballot . ... Air . O'Connor moved , that when a ballot ta » place for occupation , that all the paid up nicnw ; shall be elesible to ballot and that the whole iiui _«>* shall be drawn , and according to priority s ! i » H located , and in case of any member who has _^» elected shall object to occupy that , then the _hs ' I , proceed , those standing next in rotation l " lVin ?| , j next preference and so on till the members be _H-

      up . -Mr . T . M . Wheeler seconded the resolution . . Mr . Smith objected to Mr . O'Connor ' s mw _<> y asm itch a _< it was Jiablc to the objection a *; 1111 '" priority being allowed . , , m Mr . Smith moved , and Mr . Clark sccomlc'i ¦ ' motion for laying the accounts of the society Wl the conference on Friday morning . Adjourned . " _^^

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      On the 4 th inst ., Mrs . Ann Tristram , " ' _.,,:, Tristram , watchmaker , of Ilanley l'otteries , aged _- "' - _^ jt much _ri-spected hy her relatives and friends ; a trw } and patriotic woman . .

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Dec. 13, 1845, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns4_13121845/page/8/