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^^^^ ^^^^ " ¦ " ^ " ^^""^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^¦¦¦¦ flHB Q&BU&AL OOWE 9 TTXO 2 ? . Monday , April 29 . Mr . Mills in the Chair . JLfter the name * , had been called owr , Mr . Neescm be ? ged to know if the name of Mr . i WiUUms the newly elected Member for Kenning- ton , » a > on the fiat . He . did sofrom nothearing the name caLed over b y the Secr-Ury , end from seeing riJl if legate » e * ted at the table among the member * . ( Hetr , hew . ) Mr . "ft iLUams -yoTild beg to * p 5 ik a word . Chaiiu * ax— Mr . Williams would feel thenecpsnty he ( the Chairman ) had of strictly adbrring to the roes laid down fey tie Conwntioi * , one ofwiai ^ " » vthat he ( Mr . William *) should , befereh * toek hk «« t , produce his credentials . llr * Iterates O"Coss « b . said tfeat oft tie former jncwssiea en tbi * qnewie « he i ^ i-iJbDe his beat is
writer tkat Sir . WUjjmm *| m } £ cake- las seat . j » tffvfeit be did So tfe *^« i »^ fc « t- «! l ^ Si Bet now that the rnmrritiBi jjj mum In a eoncJnson that Mr . WiUitcoi should ^ fodnet his e-edentiafa before he should take his arat , he ¦ w ocld aot be acting in a manner consonant with hi . < dntr , if he did not do everythinz to support the character end dignity of tfee body " He therefore called nn XJr . Wiliiams tk * to persevere in wishing to tale iL « « eat without complying with tbe rules adopts for their government . If be wohM do so , he would only be insnhiag tte body of whkii he cltiimert to be a member . And he ( Mr . O"C . ) could not allow himself to be a party to any insult offered to the Chairman or the Convention . ( Hear . ) He wculd not be w&ntksg in rendering to Mr . Wiiiiwnj everv assistance ia obtaining his seat in a regular manner ( Hi-ar . )
Mr . Whjuams—Mr . Cbairp » n , I -would . wi ; h the permission—(•* Order , ordrr , " isprtar . and - Chai-, chiir . '" ) TheCR « asA 5—Mr . ¦ Williams trill « pe the propriety of withdrawing from the aeniberj' tab . ' , Mr . Wil ] ism < then wichire = r . COERESFeXSEN C E . Letters wert read—Frtft Jbenittik—*• Th * t -so soon a- the f * te of the pe neon shall be ine » ra , the Conventiofi snail prepire an address to her Majesty , expressing the loyshy of the people , tbwr extn-me pu ' fferitg , their £ T ** t love lor peace , b-ct at the same tizse thrir c * ko . £ ftienninario 2 to c % tain their rights , dec l aring tierr conviction that the conduct of the Gorerumenf invithholdinz their jast demands , in calcelaied lo
exdauger the peac *» oi ihe country , and the stability of the throne ; public aaeretinga to b- held in every county town in Englacd , Wales , and Scotland , on the « me day . ihat day to b * the 2-Jth of May , tee % nrth-d&y ot Q-ieeu Victoria ; copies of tfce add re . ** to be sobmittel to the iseednEs , and , rf apprjved ¦ of , the names of the -members attending-such meetings to be appecdedxo the address , ai ? d-presented xd hsr . Majesty in -rrhich way the Convention may think fit . " Sice ^ ikk re # o ; arion has been pa ^ s-ftf they heard that Mt . iVargua O'Connor had introdneei thi < qnesrioB . and ikey bezeed to-subonit the forefoing suggestioa to the" conYiderm . uon of the Convention . As thus * een there was a difference of opiiiioE amongst the Conrenrionalirtii as to the proposition for holding them simultanoeasly .
Frvm Stirling—The Committee of the Association in that place had dismissed the propriety of rendering assistance to the Ministers , and they " had resolved that the Convention did wisely in notiiving countenance either dirtejdj or indirectly to the factions in PirliaiDent in the late struggle lor political p . scen deooy . "Were of opinion that ^ c Committee rtcmld employ the ozne between the presentation cf the petition and the bringing in of ihe Charter , in geruug up the . proposed system of agitation « s general as possible . That so far from approving this being the last petition for the obtaining the peopV . s political rights , ^ key d pem it adnsaWe' an . 4 proper tha : the Convention take it into strious onsiderat » a tbe propriety of backing th- bill of rights on ii ? introdaciiun to ¦ Parliamt-nt by a jipco-od petition , n--qne * ui ] g and demanding that it fee passed into a
li's-. 1 his they do from knowing lbs : such a cours--ef proceeding would strengthen tbe baads of the supporter * of the Charter in the Heasp of Corruption * , and tell with double effect thn : 'be people are ip . earnest in their endt-arsurs to obtain the political ri gkts which have been » o long and sc onrighieoosly withheld from them . ( Hear , hear . ) We " are impressed with the cowiction that public opinion will progress , notvrixkstanding any coefcive measure that may be din « :: e-2 against : t froia the citadel of tyranny , having ibr its . olject the > tppress'ng ih ? same . They recoaimend to the Contention the nt--c ? ssi : T of imprei&ng on the _ mis-donaries the use of temperate iacgocge in their addresses at public meetirss . as witkoat which it would -be an aranons and difficult task-la obtain a decided osajority of the cation in favour « ef the principles laid down in the Charter . "
From K ' rrkaldy—They were sorry for the resignation of Mr . Mathe * - * , and those oiher * who had reagned , but they £ the people of Kirkal-iv ) thought tiut tLose genLleratfniihocid wait to test the Convention as to the line of pondnct they would pursae hereafter before they rwdgned . The Kigretted the Convention did not ^ nter into a declarasinii of principles at the commencement of their shcing ? : if « is were done , they weuld be in a more prospf ronconcition . They deprecate all allcidon < to physical "force in i ^ e present drenmetances ; they ought to strive to conduce tioee opposed to them of the j'as'ice cf tbe cause ig * sound and tempecate argn-* ncnt , and not by fear . - ( Hear , brar . ) They were aer-nnined to abide by their first principle of peace .
law - and order ; and taxt , so far aa they were con-Csmed . they had neither the means nor the inclination xo purchase arras . The conduct of some of the delegates is alienating « ome of iheir best friends tram their csjue , ajd daierring many from joining ihsir ranks .. * . The failure tk the Corn " Law agitation ha « done mn 2 i to conviue * niany , th * -t an extension of tbe suffrage is nece *? ary ; and is the only meant of obtaining a redress of grievances . ( Hear , hear , hear . ) And they felt eanvincjd that only for the violent language used hj some of the members , Eeariy aii the Corn Law agitators would have joined them before this , in their demand for Annual Saffoge . ( Hear , bear , from the aural force delegates . ) They hid & public meeting to get up petittoos
fcgams-t the Corn Laws , and aG « tber opp-es-ire euactmenti . The xaeciing wa * very 1-rge , the largest ever held there , and was attended by many anti-Corn Law men , and moved an amendment to their resolution . Tae resolution wa * di « rus .- * d for two ionrs , and the amendment was put , when only rwenty-fonr hands , out of upwards of 1000 , were held up for it . ( Loug and general cheering . ) A resolBiion of contiience in the Conveation was also Passed , after some opposition . Tlicy trusted ihe breach caused by the re « goatioH of the members would soon be fill > id up . They wer * gettiD ? numerons signatures to the general Petition . They sent Musionaries through the rillage 5 . and had established * a association in Kinghorn , which promiied to do
* eu . They considered that the Conypnnon were only to superintend the getting up of tfee Petition . In a posicript they stale that they had just heard that Mr . Matthews , the Delegate who had lately resigned for Perthshire , bad consented to rt same hi * fotie * . at the inritatioH of b&u constituents . From tbe We ^ nnisKter Radical Association , containing a ^ solutionpassed la < t week — "Thatthe Association , tiewing the proceedings of the Contention , ag reported " from tim « to tiioe , be « to expr «« J in full con-Dde ncein the integrity aod ability of the Members ° - that body to carry oat the bnaae » 3 delegated to tkwn by thwr rariooj conalitoencie * aad fnrtherhope that their hands may be Btreegtiened by judgment vxl determiaation in their eade » vonrs to obtain b juj-t end responsible GoTennn * nt . From S ' ^ a-fteg-I'trrv 'tat ' re that they had forwarded the Prtitien
sheets ; that they had founded an ABsocdation , an ^ nesting rulea from the Conyention for their jovernment , as they were determined to stand by « e national cause—also requesting more signatureweets , u these which thpj had were filled , many > w * ons who were willing ti sgn not baring yet ^ ged . The Tories and Whigs were doing their ^ ft to prevent the people sigmag the National Pe-S !" . Anifrom Canterbury contributing to the ?> f&t , in the coUeclion of which , much , progress had «* amade . ( Hear , hear . ) A letter from S : roud ^ p ^ i Th orns * Fair , jun ^ detailing the spread of ^ larfirt princi p les in that neighbourhood , m evi-« sncE d by the formation of an Association in Nails-* orth , Hampton , Eaj'njgten , and Stanley , and the fcrmation ot a Central Association in coDJuncdorj * Uo Gloucest-r , Cheltenharo , Cir < nc ^ rter , Worces-* Ji "ire . —which deemed it * -ivisible to r > ndcavonr to PUp a connty demonstration on Whit-Tuesday , " - io'icidc ^ t ^ e a t ^ ndance of Johij Fro ? . E » ] .,
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! d Mr . \ iresit , and Feargrjs O'Connor , F > q .. if the I nature of his arduous dutips would permit , and if Dot , urging the attendance of some other popular and powerful speaker . From Kirriemuir , a fetter directed to Mr . W . G . Burns , signed by the Sectary of the Lmon ef tk * t place , returning him their tfianks frr his general conriuct as a Delegate to the Convention , more particularly for his consent attendance to his dnty , and expresrirg their svinpatny for the troubles to which he was exposed " vfLen tr * velhng as a missionary . The letter further * t * r # < r tnat the cause w « s still progres ^ ine , ar * ? t-ii >^ additional > -i gn * twe ? lisi been ofe # « - ^ &Sk > . . boaal Petition , which h » d hr / in ^) r T j ' , " iStt togetiier with * atatement of ^ 3 & ^ p _^ , meQtal ' a- 'd moral coodition . The ^ kroent aboka-aUoded to was then read . It g ' ated ^ at the prmtap > a if not tUft onlywork earned on in the place w * s r ^ ttanii-. actare-ftf ^ coaTyeJinens orX ^ naburghsV ' tfie SWrage * ife . by toflSiS ^ lnormnK ^ tni " feght" tnirht ^ out the sora to nbont- 7 * . « £ * si % hBMt therefore b * ev ^ ent , that after paying for hor-ie nnt , wb ' . k . and soap , there could be little left for fo- ^ d and tothins I for do the * . The food was . of courw ' of the meanest I description , oat-meal fnrmirg ttt- principal part ' ill ^ ' " h ** - ) The children were required i to be put to work long" hefor- they were able . o « ing to their parenU being go ute ' eped in poverty ; . » s , regarded iheir intelleci'ial confiition . nine-tenth > , of them bad the elements of eduauion . and . as a [ son of stigma was artjxed to thoi * who wer unible to-read ana write , the poorest parents rndeavour to . « end t-eir chi . dren to school . The ^ r morals were not retro ^ raH ing , although much immorality nlwunded . the principal ca « s-of which wasthe " wnnt ot t > e physical com ' orN of li « e . sod a wpr . t of ta > te ft t sri-utific-porsnits , allowing to the abject state oi poverty ia whirh ttvey w . re doorred to vil . a > whei .
pt-rsons aresmckHn « i ^ p , rperfy and in debt , wi ( r ; . out mnws of fxtrication , tLey } o&e reyprct or th- > mselves , an'l'faH into vi « e < th y would cth . rwise have avoided . Tbe letter concla ' dei by stMne tha : at a meeting of tbe Mrile au-1 F .-male Poiiricai L ' mons . a voip of entire coafidence ia the Convex- - tion had _ pis * ed . From Furfar . urging the nece . oitv of aeration , and seating that a person accused i > l being a « py . aed who Trt ' us ^ rl to jive anv exr-lana tion . had been -expellfd t :: e Union . The Uaion ot Fjrlar had p « ssed ct-TtP . ui rt-.-olution ? . d-dsrutiory of , their det-rminRtion , bv a ! lpo * sibl ¦ meins , to cirry into -effect tbe prieciples contained in ife ? People ' s Chart ? and would
r . recDmm- u-i to the members of the Conveation to adjourn ' . or a limited period after tUe _ presentation of th- Petition , to giv ? an oppor-: tnmty of agiuting tkeir different localides , previous to the introduction of the Charter into the Hous * of Corcmons | end rhat , while they agree to continue moral agitation , they declare thatshouH theGovercment » akfr any attack upon tbe people in the cour !< e of that agitation , they reco ^ ui-e the right ol the people to-repel forct- by force . Tbt « y al « o rec immend tbeir respective Unfoas to exert tkemse ' . ves u > : the utmost to carry the agititiou into thrir respective dutr . cts , and thry conclude by ex ^ reisiug their con-; fid-niv m Mr . Burns , the delegate .
At tbe cor > clBsi .- > n of the readiag of this communw . tion , the Rev . J . R . Stephens was introduced iato the Convention . ai . d was recriv-d with the raoft enthusiastic cheering which ia ? ted some miriHte * . The reading of the correspondence wa < then proceeded wif ^ . " The Beit lett-r read wa < frtsB tae Secretary oi the Association o the WorkiiLg M ^ u and hx ' iustnous Ciasses of Dundee , subiuiuiu ^ a rt solution and amend » -Bt proposed at a saeer . ij g of ihut Asso - ciatian . Tlie r- ^ o ^ tion pro posed w 3 « as follows : — " R-sok-d—That * e are of npiu : oa that for th " protection of lift-. ! ibery . aud ^/ ropertj , every man ought to posse . " fire ari-- «; >» a a greet ritiinbi r d . > nut , we reccmiaend Ra . Jical Rrfonuer * , ni parricuiirly the aiivocaie . * of the Peoplt- ' .-CiiMr ^ er , to possess them ; ei « es of arms as eariy a ,-possible .
To which it was proposed « . * au amtndment , &Bd carr ied uDinim'iUflv—•• That the Secretary b * directed to write to Dr . John I ' avUff . oiif i-f l ' ue del ^ eaie-i now in Lon-ion . to ! ar bef . rt ? the N ^ tiuaal Conve .. tioru in ordVr to obtxtn their decisive opici « a « together with his own . regarding tht legaVty of pa-sire > uch reolut on im ¦ S- ,-ot / efti / . with the intention thnt thei r view * on tb > - i scbj » H : 5 > nay be laid before tbe Association at their ! firs- » eetini ; . ' The neit was a letter frosa > lr . John Uindns , con-Uadi « iicg i \ natemeut in Uie lirislitou Guardian of i Wednesday Lut . which state- ! that he bad lo ^ t h : s ; pension ! oc keeping a disnrdt-rly house , and MHtin * 1 that he liai < etn the e < lit * r of that paper , who
pretended he bad-been rak- in formed . a . ni that he had wa ' ted oii the-collector « f customs , and askrd him if he would be * o good as to inform him what ue was to susperd his pension fee and hi- ari ^ wt-r ^ a»—that the . Lords ot the Admiralty hnd given him an order t « suspend it on accouatot his Caking the chair at a se ^ inoir * roeering beld at ? fiorr * tiam , which vtj > corroborated by the Comptroil' -r . but at tie game t ime he staged he wished Mr . Hinde ? not to agitate ihe Shoreham people any m ^» re on tke subject , mjre especiaily !> e ? -Iariug people a * there was nc doubi he would obuin his penaoa again : but he (> -ir . Hindesj ) had" told him Le never would recant Ins opinion * . He explained the rf p < rt alluded to . bv stating that two years since be took the DurtarL
Arms , Shoreham ; and , being a ! -enfnrin £ man , allowed fiddling and dancing at the hon > e , with the sailor * » nd their girls , as it is generally allowed nt mw > e 3 port . , and at this house before he took itthat a p&iiy beaded by the journeyman parsons , whom be had opposed on joining tJ . e Pour Law-Union , indicted him for keeping a disorderly house , althongh his predecessor had not been interfered with—that ue run it to an r . ssiz" trial , which cost them £ 76 ; « nce which time he fcnd been a marked man , and to prove the editor ' s fal-ehood , he would remark that he had received thre different quarters ' pennon since "that period . He had gre-At pleasnre in reportixg the progress the c « . u&e was roakirj ? in Shoreham . A letter was them read from Bradford .
stating that . Mr . Vincent was doing much good in that neighbourhood . A memorial from the Smirfafield Charter Association was then read , stating the confidence of the memorialists in the Convention , and thfir conviction that the majority of their too long oppressed countrymen were decidedly agnin-t the disbanding of that body under any prett-nce , and rt-commending that , in tbe event el the rejection oi the petition , the Convention should set about achieving their objects by all the means io their power ; and in order to obtain the increased exertion necorxry for carrying this into effect on th < - part of the member * of the Convention , they suggest the propriety of enforcing a daih call of the Convention ; that they recognise bur one party , and urge the Convention to contiur . e thtir sittings in London after the 6 thof May . That they recommend their fellow countrymen to organize themselves into one indissoluble iinion , and trust they willnotity to the Convention their opinion a . " to what ivoul l be best to be done in the event of the rejection of tbe National Petition .
A letter was read from Mr . Richard « on . stating his inability to be in London before Monday , ana reqoestisg leave until that day . Mr , O'CossflR a * kf & if any letter had been received from Birmingham . The Secretary replied in the negative . Dr . Fletcher asked if any letter had been written to Mr . Wood , of Bolton , respecting the charges he hed brought against the Convention . The Secretary had understood that tbe publi c ity already given to the proceedings of the Convention on this subject had precluded the necessity of hiwriting . Dr . FletcnrB thought i : important that a letter should be written " , which was directed to be written accordingly .
mr . Rjrrunn s report . Mr . Whittle called on Mr . Richards to make his report to the meeting of his town . Mr . Colliks pressnted a petition from Xewbury . signed by upwards of 1 , 000 persons , one of whom nas a C 6 : " dwainer , who no sooner than it wag known that he had a petition in favour of the People ' s Charter , received a notice from his landlord to qt-it a bouse in which he had lived for fourteen years . ( Cries of " Shame . " ) Not daunted , however , he had persevered in his agitation , and obtained no less than 1 , 000 signatures .
Mr . Lovett , in ar .-wPr to a question from Mr , Pitk-thlr . sail that no satisfactory answer had been received r- > n Me >* r ? . M' - rt ? . ai : ^ Douglas , of Birji ingtam
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M ' . PrrKrrHLT— Then a person ought to b » s » -t , t to Mr . Doughs to require him to give up all the letters he had received . He tbooght , if Dr . Taylor was not in town , he might be requested to perform that duty . Mr . O'Connor thought the better course would ba tLat some coronmnication should take place with the Secretary . With rfgnrd to Mr . Mhuiz , he nQ . ht to state that he had never acted an Treasurer , and Mfa « . therefore , not responsible . With " respect to Mr . Douglas , re thought ha ought to be written to . Alter a few words from Mr . Lovctt , the subject dropped .
THE POTTERIES . Mr . Richards , the missionary from the Potteries , thpD rose lor the purpose of giving au account of his toission . H * trostod tbe Convention would bear TferxiiiBi- » hiie he shortly fOated the ccurse he hud i fmhypd in-Ae P ^ tteriee , especially as the first part of Wft «« 1 em ^ vriT » W be iar fr < yn pleasant . Prior "WHs commx up on the 4 * h of February to meet ttte cVcvention , a deputation had been selected to visit the Potterie .- —adep-. taticnof what -was called ihe National Itent of BirmingbRm . That deputation had made a ejection of £ 10 . but which sum was not ackrewledged at the time at which be was requeMrd to return among hin confluent * . TLnt money , tlirngh it haci betn paid to tie Couventiou , ntt
^ . ad » been handed ever by those who had receiv .-d if . if he wac riehtly informed , but had been paid by Brother source . Hr won ]' , now come , ulier Kiikiij g thtse observation . , to the object he hnd in view , which was to relate to the Convention tbe result of his mission . After sj ending nice ' -r ten df . y- x with his constituents , he was sent out in cniuLiueticn w ; : a ? ever « l friends to agitate the Put' eries and the surrrvuriding c'isirict ^ . The rir * t place ' ¦ . e virited wa * Leek . Th * people there were reduced to almost the lowest possible ebb . He found tie Kreaterpart of the peo ) . 1 * there , especially the ribhon wea \> r * , could not earn more than 8 s . n week , a-. d Distress prevailed there to a great extent , ami inacy praise-wor' . by individuals were actually > tp . rv
mg . Noiwiihsta . T ; ding thi-, he bad succeeded in U . rniinf : nn . As-ociation ther . ' , aud he hoped it would be product ^ o » benefit , not only to themselves but tho caose in which it had been formed . The iit-xt pkee he A-i ^ teri was Congleton , tbe principal mm ' or the ri , k trade . He had found thn people there in a rafher heller MtMation than in Leek . . At that pl « ce he bad met with k < mn opposition from two exciM mer . a constable , and two dr-nkeo . men . 1 le succeeded in mlei > ciutf the excise offiwrs , hut it w . i ^ with , the jjrea ' eM . ditliculty that he had prevailed upon th ^ meeting at which he had attended not to bundle the cod -table down stairs He was happy to * ay he . had wicceeded in forruing . v Radical Association there . In Sandbach , in Cheshirewhere the
, shoe U&iie ¦* a . ^ priacipully curried on , be found the people ready prepared . At Nimtwioh sdoo hehnd m t with a rno > t cordial reception ; but he fotnd the people suffering uuler tlie effect of ur . jnsi U-gis ^ Htiuu , w . 'nch had cau **> d the necessaries of life to b exc- > - . v « -ly hi « b , while th « pnees of labour were f-eHtiy re inced . The tost place he hnd visited wa > Cbvadle . where he was sorry to say , he found the people suiik in ignorance , and » teoped in mi * erv . It * -n < true that .-oine of the workrueu tbi-re were in tWrecepiKm ot good wage . * , but th « generality o ! the pe ^ . le were tne most ignorant that h « ha " ever met wuh ( Hear , ht-ar , hear . ) The oons queue-, wa * . that thev Wfre ra « . ilv 1 * d «* av , ,-ind he mrs '
confess O . at he had little or no hopes of effecting nnv Koud thtr- Tinct-r > uch cirriim 5 tacr !» c . ( C ) ieer < J ; As an example ot the rnanr . er in which th ^ people were imposed on there , he need only * tite that "pun one Decision , after he ha . 1 « Mted the p ' ace . it became nncr . * snry to have a entire- rate ; tLe people w . re a ^ ain .- ! r ., but upon the Mitii » U-r nud Ctiurcli-H-ardei . ? teiiing them that t » iev ha . d bttter be careful *} at iWy were doiug . for if vm y did not pay church rate , they cvnld not b * tmiied in tbe cburch-yBn ' they in-tnnth- consented to piy the rale , ( llear . ) H .- had thus endeavoured to jr . ve an account ot hi , iui- < iijn , wLich he trusted would n : et-t with iUe .-ancriiin of tbe Cecvi-ntion , acd Ik- productive o ! > onie good to the grrat cause thev hai at heart .
-Mr . O Co . v . \(» r , iji mo \ ing a vote o ( thanks to Mr . Richurd * . begtff . i to correct " a report that l , nd gone c . broad that tt . e mission of Mr . Richards rxteuded to Hadlrv and it . < neighbourhood . Mr . ?\ imis . whii was intr idi : ced l > v Mr . Pitkethly . pre * _ r . tec : i-. iWciii > ti ( . n of £ 10 Ir iii Mr . P . 'iin , oi Lewi-liam . ( C ' ne ^ r-. ) A more worthy miu in the c&us- i f re ' i . rtr . did not exist . He was what might properly be d-: i < minat ^ d a property man , -md beinj ! so be jravt- thr lie to ih se who stated that men ol rc > perty c > = ii-i ' . c-red the procedJugs <> '' tie Cuiivenlion calcu ' a ' ed t- i ; . jure tbc riif . r « r , f property . Mr . Pecij iiai »]» . ¦ de .-ued him lo pr ^>; ent a . .-t ' coiid f 2 to the ; i : i ,- ' . tn ftssist in the t ' . ej ^ nce ot Mr . Step ) . ens . Murmg that be was ready to give more ll it wa < uecf >»;! rv . ( Cheets . )
Mr . () "Ciix . \ oa moved a vote of tbauk * to Mr . Penu , which w-. s nltitnrttely withdrawn upon the * np £ e > tioii o ; Mr . Neesom , that it would form a bad precedent . After a letter h . td been r » ad from the Chairman of tbe meeting on Keuninat'in Common , Mr . Hrs < = ry rose to bring forward the motion oi which h »> hid giv « -n notic , "T . iat tbe Couwntioii havini ; d-cided that « irr . ultanpou-i meetings ghall be b- ] d in v : ui ,. u- pj .-t « of tte kic « d ni during theearly peried ol \ Vbir > cn-week , it thereforo b ' pc-mesi necessary tlmt this Convention revolve iiself into a Committee of 'he whole Ho'ise , lo consider what advice shall be given by the Delega'es at tbe time to the var ious coa-tituexfei * - * respectiiiK the coninct to be pursued by tbem in case the People ' s Charter Le rejected by the Hocce of Commons . " The condition of the people of the country had been so often
brought belore ihe Convention , that it woold be ; i waste of time for him r . ow to ent r into it . It -was . sufficient for him to say ih . it it was desperate , anri that they were determined not to be playe > or tr ; H 'd » itb . ( Cheer .-. j The ectire hopes ot the people were centred in tbe Convention , and they had lo uof . es in _ any other body . ( , Ch > ers . ) It was to the Convention , and tbe Convention alone , tLat they looked for ; i redress of their gr ievance * . Had it no ' t been for xhe Convention , the condition of tbe people was such that they would have resorted to acts ol viol-ncv , and _\ et the ( iovernment bad done nothing ui p . m ln > ra ; e their condition , but had pursued a ccuise that was calculatt ' d to oppress , esp-ciallv with referetce t-j establishing a Rural Police , which he was sure tbe people would not submit to . ( Loud cheers . ) Mr . O'Cdnnoji seconded the motion .
Dr . Fi-ETcnrR . thinking- the matter of the motion should come before the Convention in a xse . U-arranged shape , would move that a committee of seven should be appointed . Mr . Dcm . ix > econded the motion . He thought the commit'ee should be formed of men from tbe middle counties , the North of England , and also from Scotland , the latter of whom had taken great iuterert in ulterior measures . ( Cheers . ) Mr . Nkesom thought it would be better to have a select curcmittre , but hi * great object was to prevent delay .
Mr . O'Connor—" Sir , I seconded Mr . Bu « sey ' s morion because 1 thought a clear understanding with the country wa » nect-ssary . I * hnll oppose Dr . Fletcher ' * amendment , becauee it would interfere with tlie speedy txpression of our opinion * . 1 never yet tiiew of a feleci committee that did nnt impede " th" progress of busine ^ . ( Hear , bear . ) The committee report .- -, and the Convention s ^ nds it back for r-a : on .-iderHtion . ( FJear . ) ] am ready to admit that tim n . gitive position which this Convention has hitherto maintained wa < its legitimate position ; but now it must assume oneof a more decided character . ( Cteers ) This Couvention is the i fl ' spring of want npon oppression , and I have been satisfied to rock ihe infants cradle , to amuse it , wnl to ncurifh it in iw growth ; but now it has arrived at maturity .
and iu parent * Lok upje it as able to assume the functions of manhood , and the discbarge of tho ^ e duties for which it was intended . ( Cheers . ) J admit that hitherto we have gained nothing more than a license to act . ( Hi ar . ) We could not , ¦ without a dread of damage , hive done more ; but now we mu-t , ( Hear , hear . ) We are looking for a Charter ; we have roused the country upon it , and as yet we kave never gone into committee upon it . as if we were not acquainted with the dext rity of tbe foe with which we bad to contend . 1 admit ie principle of your Charter : it is strong and immutable ; but . you Lf ; ve atUiched slovenly details to it . anf . up-js that weak quarter you will b ? attacked . ( Hpar , hi ? ar . ) Therefore , b .-fcra sendii : f it to th - oiber IlDi'se . it should Lave gone inti . ci / wmittee h ? r ; -, Lr t'Xp ' . li ' intjou anil condos ^ acoiit You
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should have mndo it so fhort that everyone would read , and so simple , that eveiy one could tindersimd—( hear , bear;)—but , so far . from that , it is crude nnd undigested , juat wher . i U will be nssauhed , and Mmilar errors have l « -d to tBe failure of every resolution that has * ever tftken plnw—tbe want of a digested system in lif-u of that which force has put down . ( Che rs . ) The Freceh fought for liberty , but they got it not . because of : their omitting to have a substitute . At thin moment the ghost of the old Constitution stalks fcbrond in ghastly aspect , r-viling its slnyers for not havirij |' sealed tho tomb before it sheathed the sword . ( Cheers . ) The Belgians guined their Constitution by-the'Word ; . they have lost it by their weakness aud want of
preparedness to meet the chauge . 1 J runs wick deposed one tyrant , and got rinoiher . llei « e Cassel did the same , always getting bad for bad in consequence of not beipg prepared . Let us , then , be pre . ared in time . ( Cheer . * . ^ You see the position into which delay has brought this country . Progression ia reform " would havesntisried th ^ e most sanguinv , whilv delay will . produce "reptihlicatiisHU ( near , hear . ) Your source is MDpniv ; the law of thu Monarch is assailed , and you will be" looked to to be ready with a substitute for that system which you seek to destroy . ( Hear , hear . ) bee ' even th « position ol your Monarch : the education of a young and innocent infant snatched from ithe tender gunrdi'i ' u chip of a mother —( bear )—and trnn .- ! errnd to the tutelage oF a license . ! libertine . ( Hear , hear . )
1 would nsk if , iu Lord Melbourne , virtue w likely to find a protector , or justice an advocate ? I tell you that the country will look upon your Charter as h mere fiction , if it is not ready as a substitute-for the system you seek to destroy . ' ( Question . ) What , is that not tl . e question : It not , what is the question ? Let those who cry question go to Manchester , and nee the men over whose lot they so recently protVsjed to mourn , now reduced to " double wan ' i nn . d . stitutiou , and tell them that this is not the question . ( He » r , hear . ) I was in Mtuic > ester on Saturday , and there the people are reduced to hull time , half wages , and consequently of licit tkat pittance which before wn * insufficient . ( Shame . ]
Ayp , shame , but shame upon us if we allow it to continue . Do s this Convention suppose , that thos " people will wait for a selt / ct committee ? Does tin * Convention suppose that those persons whos- ^ condition Mr . Richards ol the Potteries , has described , will wait for reports of select committees ; ( Hear , hear . ) No ; I contuid for it that if thi-Convention wishes to prevent a revolution , we nm > t ' « ke prompt and-peeoy re en up . [ Mr . Sankey s . ti <\ 1 rise to onlr ; thw is not thu que ^ tioii . ] Mr . O'Connor : if t ! ii * is not the qu > sfion I don ' t know ^ hatin ; and therefore I shall content myself with requesting Mr . Bussey to insist upon bow taking the i pinion of the whole Convention upon his motion . "
_ Ur . IlLTiirniNu-roN said trmt he considered it e . \ tr < mel _> d . eimble tbut thin question yhnuld be referred to a cotnmUtee of seven . Mr . O ' Connor had complained of the Charter being indefinite , when the fact was , that the Charter , as far as principles were concerned , wa * tbe liv ^ t definite thing ever brought before the conutry . If anything conl i put in a claim for fiiiH . hty , it was the Charter —( rries of" no , no , " from some of the members )—becauoit gave all the people the rijfht to hme a voice in
th- choice of their repre * en'iuive * . There had been * talk of mew constitutions . IU was for the ( ioverr . ment of King , Lords and Commons , but when he said this , he meant all tbe Commonx . and if all the Common 4 were such fools ai < to uphold ii UKHles . * system of Government , he was but one of th »> Commons , nud must submit to tWe will of the mHJority . He d ; d not like the language of Mr . O'Corino ' r , that the Charier was bai « ea in fictiou—ther « wa * no hctiou either ih its principle * or its details . They IihH nothing to do with new constitutions .
Mr . O'Cn . \ . \ oii— "Sir , Mr . Hetherington lias iui .-repres-med me . I never did « say that the Charter whs a fiction . " The Chaii [ . m , \ . n : Yon did Sir . Mr . O'Conxou : No ; if you will not appear so much ot a partisau . » nn he . « r me oof , I shall thank you . V \ hat I said was , tlmt your principle wiis tood , but if artfully beaten upon th « dt-ttui * which ire nonsensical , the country would look upen it na a fiction . ( Hear , benr . ) Mr . Whittle was hot prepared to go iuto com mittee this moruiug ; he wished thnt everv m ^ inber <> n going into committee sliouU be prepared to state his deliberate opinions , so as to make the . report ot tire committee us pt-r ' fect as po « s ble . There was no reason for haste , as they had time enough before them .
Mr . BrssRv would adopt Dr . Fl-toher's sutreestK'n , if the committee were called on to report in two d * ys . Mr . Koueus thought two days not long enough , ron-idermg how important this step was likely u , prove ; be would Bi . gge . st that it Bu « . uld be . an opeu cornmitt * e , instead oi a . coniinitt . e of < -even . Mr . Pitkethlv supgooted to Mr . Bussey that he n DUld Mate what he proposed to b < j done , in th »« event of thj Petition being ieceived . Mr . Lowery said that if they discussed ulterior measures before the presentation of the Petition and the intr Auction of the Hill ii . to the House ot Common ^ , they wov : ld break through the rules laid (! o * n tor the Convention . He would agree to tiie committee of seven , and suggested that they should state their report to th * - individual ru > mbers . but not to ihe Convention Us . If until after the 9 th of May .
A lor . s conversation ensued as to whether tbe ooinniittee should be an open one , when Mr . C . vnPK . vTEn r se and ; aid that « committee ot > even was too small a number for the discussion of n question of such importance . H * should preter h committee of twenty-five ; and when it was cor . wicered that the ulterior measures t > be agreed on bv lbs committee might put in jeopardy the ftrsona " liberty , and perhaps the live .-, of tbe m mbe . s of the Com-eution , he thought seven toi > ur& « ll a number , lie thought the committee , havintr come to a decision ks to the ulterior measures to b <> alopted , should not announce them publicly , until the approach »> i W .. U-Monday , m order to takr advantage ot thenthusiasm which would he excited , as it miifht prevent the Government from adopting measure , calculated to ' rustrate their intentions . He concluded by moviHK as an amendment , the appointment of a committee of twenty with directions i > report th ; s day tortniaht .
After a few observations from Mr . Bus ^ y and Mr Carpenter , Dr . Fletcher replied , and the committee was then baliotted lor . Upon which the following seven gentlemen were elected by ballot to serve on this committee : Messrs . Frost , Bu » sey , A , ill .-, Hetheriugton , Duncan , rletcher , and O'Connor . Mr . Lovltt banded in £ 1 rent from Tewkesburv 1 h > . ' letter which contained it stated tlmt tha middle classes were in general favourable to Chartists , and that th-y hoped io be soon enabled to s-nd numerous signatures to the Petition . Mr . Collins handed in 10 s ., which ho received for the National Kent under the anonymous signature ol K . B . rkshire , and from Oxlord il ; ihis wns indicative of the Jears of a great many persons to become openly their advocates , ( llear , hear . )
ILLEGALITY OF THE CONVENTION . Mr . O'Connor stated that he perc ived , from ths moictment sent up to the Queen ' s Bt nch against the Kev . Mr . Stephens , that the jurorx ol our Sovereign Lady in Lancashire had declared , on their oath * , that this Convention was an illegal body . ( Hear , and sensation . ) A motion of Mr . O'Connor ' s , which stood next p . r the list for discussiun , was called on by the Chairman — "' 1 hat the Convention shall , alter the preseutauoii of thg P . tition . become a : perambulation body , aud that it shall hold its sittings at Birmingham , Alntchester , Newcastle , or at such other places as to the Convention shall seem fit , with a view of eliciting public opinion in those several localities , for the purpose oi enforcing the People's Charti r . "
Mr . O'Connor hoped the . 'Convention would allow him to postpone the consideration of this resolution until to-morrow . Mis motives for making the request was that it was necessary to have the report ot Mr . O'Brien , who had been among his constituents in Laucashir . —as to what were the state of feeling at this moment among themasaes jn the manufacturing districts . ( Hear . ) Mr . O'Brieu would be returned by to-morrow , and as he bad attended nineteen great public meetings he would have much valuable information for the Convention relating to the opinion * of the Lancashire people—information which would tend much to elucidate the discissioi ; on the r : s iludon which , he begged leave to « -: th .: rn « ( Iltnir . ) Another motive he bad in claiming this
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indulgence wns , that Mr . Whittle ' s motion relating to Mr . Williams arid the election of East Surrey nitglitcomo on withe ut delay .
MOTION POSTPONED . Mr . Whittle moved in a tew words tbe rescinding of the standing order of the Convention , which compelled " thre- ' days' notice of any resolution to be proposed for adoptio .-, " iu order rhat tr . ev might ea into tho qieHion of the East Surr-y election . He said it was necessary fhnt the een * e of the Convention on this question nhould be obtained in the shortest time possible , a . i ic was , on « involving the 'uture rights of both the Convention , and t' e numerous bodies which it represented . He w . uld uot trouble them with any remarks iu this stngu of the proceedings , as he would give his opinion , if the question was allowed to be proceeded wirh . „ Mr ' . SKEVMTON seconded the proposition of Mr . V hittle . v
Mr . Collins thought that they should notgivetlvquestion * a it now stood any further consideration , iw Mr . Williams had agreed to stand the result of a new ekcuoiv " Mr . IU'rns wasof a sisRilar opinion . Mr . Duncan , feeing tliatit wasof that pressinp nnturethot they could not wait , he thought they might depart from the landing order . If it is , as it said to bt ! by some of the delegate ? , of the last importance to their cause that Mr . William * should take hissefit . ( Ironical cheers . ) He ( Mr . Doncan ) would be willing ro afford him every opportunity of making good his claim . ( Hear , hear , hear . ) i ) r . Fletcher—There is no me whareverin going into thw question at present , as Mr . Williams lias d ecided on waivuie hi <» claim to a s « at at their bo > ir . ' unless he would be re-elected
Mr . Rooeisb felt the ncresMtyof giving thenrmost coiirtderation to the matter . ' Under extraordinary oircuiiiMJuices it might lm n ^ essarv to suspend the Standing Order , but in thiscaKe tker « wax no such ne «** Uy . (\\ ear , ben r . hear . ) If a di . vcn 8 > ioa was to be had on it he thought the more tiine for consideration that was n > n to it would be the 1 I *' , l t "" ! f " |> n for hurrying it on were rhe best that could be given in support of delaying Ub consideration . He would oppose the rtsdnain * ot the S ; andiug Order . 6 After some f-w more remarks the chairman put tho question , upon which it was negatived . In reply to a question pot bv Mr . Harwell the Chaiiomx said , as one of the committee nnnnint ^
to take chnrg ,. ,. f tbe presentation of the National Petition , it was not intended that a public procesof Coinmonr COffiPaUJ tllBt ducument t 0 the House DUTIES OF THE CHAIRMAN- . Mr . Sax kev moved the following resolution : "That the Chairman be instructed under no circumsimc-8 whatever to permit « uv motion , of which previous notice had liot been eni ' ered on the order book to be brought forward , unl ^ s the ensen t oi tl . e Ciitiv-nlion be first obtained . " lie . said h ) S motives for bringing forward ihis resolution were fmm the conviction , af . er what had passed on a ate debate , that . some defineH nl » n stioutd
im mid down for the government of the ( .. airman ; and fivm a Feeling thut th « Standing Order relative to thi- * part «» their duties was required to be strengthened by a resolution such as th « present . Ul «« , hear . ) That Standing Order was BMw . y v-irat . s nuerfvreu wi . h , uud cue ,, were the Comvntiou entire y under the guidance * nd rule of he Ch . iir » i . « u ouly . ( Hear , hear . ) At the same time that his re , omtiou went to explain and effectuate the btaiKing Order , it did not prevent ihat rule frorr being ^ et usido when extr * nromary circumstances occurred to recouim-mi it » being so ternpoMrily repealed . ( Ileur . ) * M r . Dewsam seconded the motion . L
»« M ft" ^ ? ; m 1 TOUch Pl »^ re in listening toMr baukey ; but notwubstnniinK the manner in which that iuutunnau argued for the introduction of tins resolution , he must « ay that h « was not at all convinced ol tr . e pr : 1 priety of -en-din * the books of the Coniviiti ., 11 wuh resolnrions which were not n-cewury . ( Hear , h-ar . ) H had an aversion to he passing ,, | resolutions wnich M best Were fe ot doubttul utility , and wnich were not actually tending to promote decision . A * thfy had already * resolution wh .,: h made it iniperntJvo that tbrea days uohce . hould be given , he could not see the use of briugmz this in to amend or coi . firui that which , it - not carried , int * effect on its own merits , would hardly Ret assistance from the one now pro-> os .-d ior tneir aiopt . on . If this resolution wL passed , he could s nothing in it he wax afr « H n ' dui sometmuthat inf to
a ^ nded imply censure on ¦ i i-jrmer Clwirman , lor ksing his discretionarv power in allowing „ discus-iHn to proceed , which "oso jn ^ l yfniuthecoi . Hideration ot a r ^ otat oi then before the iueetin / r . ( "No , no . " from Mr bankey ) Oh that occasion , if the Chairman was not tight , a circuuwtanoe which w « a mutef of A . it might Imye occurr « jd . He did not think there 7 ^ ™ $ L ^ » r *!?™ - * m > r « confirmator
, adopt , then m tbe rule which it whh ge -king to enlorce . [ Here Mr . Carpeu . er ftadtU rule from the mii . ute . book , which went to say , hat no m fi could be entertained by the Convention unless it had three day , notice , or thai it arose , from « ome nb eCt under chSeu ., sio » ] N ,, vy , MWy , there ™ jotbing more yi i ! w ,, „* produced by Air . Sankev here is the aw , aud n ouly remains tor the Con ! vear . on ir , el . to enforce it , without having r .. cour ° o BU otL « r re «» . uiion , which does . not give anv furth * r po . ew for currying it iuxo erll-ct . ( Hear ,
. Mr . R ,, oei , s supported tlw motion . From Mr ( -arpentT * aumission , tha diicn-Kon on a former « i * y did not arise from the consideration of nnv question then be'or * the meeting , but as the Ch « ir * . man thought it did . n was allowed to go on . ( Hear . Iroin Mr lethennvton . ) He was ol opinion Ik as their Chairmau was changed evCTv day . it wotrt t be necessary tnat his line of proceedings" should be marked out for h : . If t&y h ( ld , f ^ ^ Chairinnn , it might then be prudent to leUe him to ins own discretion . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr HrrnF . r . iNGTON contended that the chairman had the nght to give h . s dictum on a dis uted point , and that the Convention should abi . le bv that dictum . ( Hear hear ) He shxuU C « n , ider the cpinioi . eiven by the Chairman as infallible as tnat of the P ,, pe ; and that , like the Pope ' , opinion , it . should be implicitly obeyed . ( Hear , MdLi the
. was a , ty of tljet :. n . vention to decide en the eheibihty of the mdiviiual before they called on him to fulfil the duty ; but when they Ldo ce one so , he took n that they were completely in hi , « ndn . Hear , hear . He was almost afraid that rhis resolution was introduced from person il motives , nshe had put down both Mr . Saukeyand Mr logers m the course of the debate on the day all luded to . ( Hear . ) J Mr . Sankev replied . The question was then put , and negatived air . Cahdo postponed the report of the Petition until to-morrow .
LONDON AGITATION . The following del-gates were drawn by ballot lo serve on the London Missionary Committee- Messrs . Whittle , Knux . James Taylor , Ken-wtun . feankey , Rogers , O'Brien , Lomey , Cardo , Hartwell , Mills , and Burns . ' FINANCIAL . Mr . RotiERs reai the statement of the fnnd * by ? io-l- 5 n r , ' , ? ! . be bnlailce of rent in handV / i . J 03 y 10 s . JOd ., and announced THE RENT ItECElVED THIS DAY .
Radicals of Canterbury i o 0 Hadical Association , Kotherhithe .. ' . 4 0 0 Radical Association , Greenwich ... ( J 0 0 Samuel Emsly q 4 o Houghton , near Blandford l o 0 Mi nktou , near B ' . audford 0 *» n Baldtord .... 10 0 Workmen in Mr . Marshall ' s timber yard 0 G 0 Workmen in Byl ^ rave-square ...... 0 8 0 Mr . Poiin , Lewisham ... \] q q q Thirteen Men ( R . Benr am ) ...... ' .. 0 10 0 1 ewkesley lindical AcBociation ... 1 o 0 Oxford Radical Fund j y y I ' pon which tho cnstoiuary vote of thaaks wa pissed to the Chairman , The meeting then dissolved .
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Tuesday , ji yril 30 . The Convention Ihet this morning at eleven , o ' clock . Mr . Caiuio in the Chair . Alter the minutes ' oi tho last mt'eting had beea read , Mr . Lovett , tke Secretary , laid before the Convention several letters , the substance of which w « swbjoin : — Mr . J . B . Smith , ol Leamington , in a letter dnted Reading , April 27 , stated" th it h « had relumed front a hall-yearly jouruey to . the south of England , aad was glad to state that the prospects in that part ol ihe country were very encouraging , and the effect * of Mr . O'Bripn's mi / sion most palpable and
erntitynur . At Brighton lie -was confident the good ! citUfe was pr . grestihg rapidly under the directions of Mr . Reeve and others ' , who had published actdresses to the agricultural labourers which -were producing the uWt abunda&t fruit . The writes stated that in Salisbury , and many other town * which ho had visited , the people were puzaied a » know the reason why the Convention should retaia so large a bnlance . of . unemployed money in their hands , " when ^ the cause , ' which it ii assembled to promote languisDeV'Jn ^ evVijMi re ctiifli for w ant ci rciisionarie * . Not a ten-thousandth part of
theempire has hitherto been canvassed . The money anU the Delegates are of comparatively little useie London , aiid ought ir be circulated in every direction throughout the provinces . 1 know that many contributions are withheld from an idea that thefunds of the Convention are nufiiciently ample already . " The writer . concluded with the l olio wing remarks : — "Tbe inflammatory language which ha * been employed by certain Delegates at public meetings constitutes with us -at Leamington the only lustirrnouiitablfr obstacle in the way of our complet e success . A similar ( "'nrinientisentertiuied by a ) I the Secretaries and Presidents of Associiitions witli
whom I have recently conversed ; and 1 really thiLfcp . longer period than wo ' uid have been required fo > ifdct the entire accomplishment of our oby ct . iiv the absence of all iijUanimatoryor "physical force" ' allusion , must now beemployed in undoing themischief which such unguarded language ha * produced in the public estimation . " Suaviler its fiiodo , J ' o > liter iu re , " ¦¦ or peace , law , and order , ought to have been the directing motto of the Convention . . , ' Mr . Henry Bowman , " vrriting from Carlisle , ftatetf that Whit-Monday had been fixed upon for the . public meeting at thnt place , and that iu the courss ? - of a . few days a few thousand additional signatures should be torwarded to the Kutional Petition . 72 t ) Dt which had been obtained in the town of Whitehaven . —( H'ftr . )
A l « tter -was read from Mr . Elliott , of Newcastle , enclosing a resolution reepestiug the Convention to depute Messrs . O'Connor , O ' -bn-n , Frosr Maraden ^ and Sankey , together with the Delegate * lrom thai town , to attend the great public meeting to beheld on Whit-Mon ^ ay , when he anticipated a glorious gathering woull take p ! ac * , the Council being determined t- > spare ntitter exertion nor expense tss make the meeting worthy of thegreat and important object for which it was called . Mr . James Moir , under the date of Glasgow ^ April 25 , thus writes , — "On Mond . iy last , 1 addressed a very larg § meeting- in Paisley . It wsc * hell iu a church , and there could not b-j lewer tbaE 1 , 500 present , nearly the one-half of whom were-! emale . < , who unaniiuo » is ) y resolved to lonn themsel ^ js isto nn Association to assist and co-operat » r with their husbands , fathers , and brethren i » th *
glorious struggle , for the . People ' s Charter . ( Cbeer ;» . > On Tuesday , we had a public meeting of the Universal Suffrage Association here . Last night I ' addressed n public meeting at Bucby , a . small manufacturiug village about seven miles from Glasgow , which was numerously attended , and et wlrcba votaof confiJence in the Convention wad uiianiinou !* i-r pas .-ed , and al > o the sum of £ 2 13 s . iOi . handed ? , over tome * s National Kent . " He theu proee « de& to state , that in the course of the following week h «» should attend Eieetirjrs at Hamilton , Pollowshaw , Bridgton , Mili ^ ndjJlirdrie . < fec . A letter . d » ted B-. stor , Afril 28 th , and signed ? " William Cook , " was read . Tho society reprecetttod by the writer expressed the greatest cojiodecc ? in th « members of the Coriven' . ion , and it appeared ^ that sl . eets frtm that neigbbaurhood , coiitniuiDg 2 , 5-JtJ signatures had been forwarded to the Convention . • ¦
Mr . O ' riRirN then rose to give an ace runt of fci ? . ' mission , lu- stated that he went down on Saturdayweek , and returned yesterday , dutii . g which titutthe had attended nineteen public meetings , be « id-s » a great number of smaller on . s at public ht a » p » . At every meeting the most enthu > iii « tie feelings prevailed , and . he had bands of musdc and large ptshcessions iu every tovrn . The principal places wherir he had \ d-ited were Leigh , Chorlton , frlmche-terL Saifovd , Bolton , Bury , , A ' shton-under-Lyue , and Rochdale . He had alsq ' met little coteries ol S 3 m « of the lending men in other townc . ' such a » Mid ^ - dleton . The greatest desire prevailed to snppan the Convention at all those places , and it appeal to him a lamentable circumstance that while sti
many hundreds and thousands were coming fcrwaritt with resolutions expressing confidence in the Convention , and a determination to support tuexxi at all hitzards , that there should be individuals iwthe Convention who had no confidence in eavfe otht-r ., ( Hear , hear , hear . ) He found that tc b « the general opinion , and that a feeling of di ** ati * . fact- ' on prevailed that the members . ' . of the Cosa , vention had not a tetter understanding- amdr ^ themselves . In every other respect the meetio ^ had been of a satisfactory , character . ( Her . r , neay . \) ur < at anxiety prevailed that the demoLstratioB ^ . ougbt to be held on Monday week , and should Wa , s etfeciive , as possible .. They wished every as-Mstauce to be given by the Convention to afford eclat to the dnuonstraiion . They wished
t&e-whole strength of tho Convention to be thco ^ s » into the me .-ting . ( Hear . ) In Manchester ^ ttier * « -ere unfortuiiRtely two parties , the out-ax d-tutP » and the broad-cieih inf » ii . He ( Mr . O'Brien ) h ; y £ endeavoured to henl the breach , and before he kft chat place he believed the best understanding \ n&-vailed amongst the heads of the party , and thex were determ : ue < l to hav : ! one ot the most mngnificent meetings which had ever bren held on Kej"s 3 Moor . ( Hear , hear , and , loud cheers . ) He had adused each trade to decljire . itself , as a body , in favesa-¦> i the Convention , and . the whole of rhe trade * t < smake a an . ildr declaration as a consolidated bos ^ r The meeting on Kersal Moor wenld be a- mc ^ - triuinphnut one . ( Cheer .- ! . ) He would now suegejt that tu tion should
« Conven change the place © fir * . - meeting . Hit met at Birmingham it weiild be sssor * useful and united . The people had an idea that Ihe atmosphere of London was bad for them- ( laughter )—and the air of Birmingham would i » very good . ( Hear , hear . ) The people thought tWthe occupation ot making guns ttrengthened iW arnw , and that the making ef copper had a tende *** - to encourage the peopl-, because it gave theaaS idea that they had capital in their own Lauds fft * - people were very auxioug that the Cenvrnrioaj should meet nr Birmingham under the shellei » £ r the gun * made by the people there , especially wh « r the umecarot ; for ulterior measures , the people «>»_ sidered it incwuennble Uiat Birmingham nr mJZ nester
c should be the place . He thought it worfa mPnr f V ° \ " \ ° "vention to act . fth «> VvtoZ mentof England had formerly done , and tbatw « l to move , about , sitting iir Winchester one S ? i £ J niLit ** 1 bein « Birmingham would be e » - unite the people around them . ( Hear , hear \ ®* would only keep unitea ~ if they would only taS ^ care that long reports of threecolumns didnot Jp JSJ ZrM l " f Spap ^ - ^^ y *>« upied witfi W g ^ q . ^ y A . tthi . tee . cih . ii S ^ W ttrttiia ^ s ^ xss ^ i determined to succeed , ifthnCm . r ^ i mn lZ * & V : ^ l
them . ( Cbeertf . ) ' ""» ' « «^ . . On the motion of Mr . Moore , a vote of tna » 3 «* . K » i& ^ £ i : « S ? - -udso . He bad said they ought to -Ay uJJ ? M , { Continued in pur fifth page-l
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Northern Star (1837-1852), May 4, 1839, page unpag, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1055/page/1/
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