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      s - *• xffAKCSlSTER . Wednesday Evening . WHIG AND TORY SQUABLE . iMKliCATXOK » P CANDIDATES . - - f = Thisinorning , ihC nomination ( under the precept directed to the borongiireeTe and constables ) of the candidates for the representation of this borough in parliament , took place on hustkgs erected for the purpose in St . Ann ' s Square , in front of the palisa-< Engof St . Ann ' s church yard . The morning opened with heavy showers , b ' ut it became fair abont half-past eight o ' clock . At that timef about 160 of "the Manchester township watchmen Trere ran ° ed ieside the barriers of the hustings . TheHremen i too under the superintendence of Air . Rose , trere in attendance , ^ their uniforms . We understand that ii consequence of some instructions from the home department , the three regiments now stationed in thistowc— -siz . the 6 th Dragoon Guards ( Carabineers ) in the cavalry barracks , Hulme ; the 86 th in the infanliT barracks , Regent Road , Salford ; and the * yth Hig hlanders , in temporary banacfcs , at the Albion Mais , Tib-street—were strictly confined to ^ irrespective barracks . The hustings were di-vided into four compartments fcat nearest lie bank of Sir B . Heywood and Co ' bemg appropriated to the friends of Robert Hyde Grej :, 1-sq . the whig candidate : the next to those

      of Sir George Murray , ^ the tory carfdidate ; the third to the boronghreeve and constables , the magistrates , the Deputy returning offieer , the" legal advber of the fcoroughreeve and constables , &e . The fourth compartment , that nearest to Deansgate , was appropriated to the friends of Colonel Thompion , the radical candidate . _ .-.. ' - Aboui ^ a quarter before nine , Sir Georgellurray and his friends came upon the hustings , and amongst them we observed the Chairman orhis Committee , Mr . George Clarke ; Messrs . William Garnett ' J . B . W ^ VW fr , ^ . w ^ g -j j -g-y nua ^ . - ^ w . - » mxneOs ^^^^^^^^^ g ^^^ BQp % m ^ &ep WHeel ^ osi ¥ ^^ S ^ i ^ Several of the gentlemen "RXjredark Blue TOs ^ teS at

      thear breasts . . " . ' / .- ; , / . - \ - < At nine o'clock exactly , . Colonel Thompson , arm in arm with Mr . George Condy , walked up the ixjuare iand came upon the hustings . Afeongst his friends we observed Mr . Thoma 3 Tielden , Elijah Dixon , Hev . Jas . Scholefield , of Every-street Chapel - Aneoafs , Mr . William " Willis , &c . ' At five minutes after nine o'clock , the friends and Committee of Robert Hyde Greg , Esq / came spon & 9 hustings . Amongst them we observed Mr . ^ Alderman Cobden , Mr . Alderman Kay , Mr . Alderman Xershaw , Mr . Alderman Walker , Mr . Alderman Brooks , Mr . T . lV ? ynxh Armitage , Mr . John Potter Mr . J . K . Heron , > ir . J . B . Smith . Mr . IfcrridPriee , air . Robert Philips , Mr . George Wilson ; Mr . Coppock , Mr . "A . Prentice , Mr . Worthinlrtoiu &c .

      At ten minntes after nine o ' clock , there \ rere not snore flaa four hundred persons in the frigit of the hustings , exclusive of the * watchmtM , firemen , Abont a qnarter-pastiine o'clock , Thohis Evaxs , Esq ., the Boronghreeve , came forward and said ;—fc Gentlemen , by -virtue of a precept which we haTe received from the High Sheriff of this county , dated the 28 th ultimo , we have called this meeting , to nom i nate a member to serve in Parliament for this bo-TOug ^ - in the room of ihe Right Hon . Charles Ponien-Thu ^ - I shall call upon *!* , iiilne to read theprecepv * ° r and onhehalf of the Boroughreere and Constables , and afterwards to read ibe usual jfonns necessary to \> 9 attended to . ' ;

      Mr- E . C . Miise ,- as the- legal adviser of the Boronghreere and Constables , read the piecepi . Dxsiel ll-tfnns , Esq ., stipendiary magistrate ; then --idainistered th 3 path to the Boronghreeve and Constables , and to the 3 ? J > oty returning officers , upwards * £ fcrtj m number . * A protest was then h ^ &dwl to the Boroughre « ve , on Behalf of Mr . Greg ' s supporters , denying the right < kf the Boroughreeve a 7 * d Constables to act a * returning officers . * At half-past nine Mr . E . C . ^ Mi » n « commenced flie reading of the Act against bi ? hery and cor-¦

      ruption . . _ ' Tie BoBoiGHREinrE said he hoped they ^ Fould giT « every speaker a fair hearing . ' . " " •' Robert H yde Greg , Esq . was proposed * & <* seconued , in long speeches , by , Mr . Alderman jT <» fifeawandltfr . Cobden . . r Colonel Thompson was proposed by Mr . Thomas xielden , and seconded bj Mr . Georre Cohdy . Sir George Murray was proposed by Mr . Geom -Carte , andseconded fey Mr . James Wood . The BoaocGHBJtETB then said—i . begto caH upon Mr . Greg , or Mr . GregY representative , to address the electors . ' ---- ¦ ' - ¦ -.

      Mr . C . J . S . Wxlkik came forward as Mr . Greg ' s representative , amidst some cheers , and th » unitsd -loot ing of the Tories and lie Chartists . : The Bobocghmets ssdd—Gemlem » n , Tiii only fur that you should hear Mr . Walker , as the repr » mtfatiwkjtSwriJ&Qx ^ nt i riida tw .. : - Mr . ; Gbobge Coxbt asied if it wa « aecbrdirig" to -Hie law and usage of the conntry that any oneihould i > e allowed to address the electors , except the morer * , "tecoaders , and the candidates themselVes . , The BoKorGHEEEvi—It is customary ; I haTrB ^ en it here myself . ; " Mr . "W alkkr instanced the fact that Mr . Jennings had represented Sir Fraacis Burden , and addressed ihe electors of Westminster in his behalf , and as his representative , Air . William Bxad ( to Mr . Walkers-How can . yon represent Mr . Greg T Mr , Walker made several ineffectual attempts to -obtain a hearing ; at length

      Elijah Dixos said—1 must have the qualification -oath taken by every candidate that is har « to-day . We have pigs in poxes anew . . Mr . JoHjt Whtxtt said that the qualification oath must he put , or the candidates coufdnotco jo-the pollataJL The Bobocghhekte asked if Mr . Walker had any legal adviser with him , as he was bound by these two * l * ctoTs ( Mr . Dixon and -Mr , Wh ' yatt ) to call upon ^ Ir . Greg to take the qualification oath ; h « bow did « o , and he held it in luz hand . [ The book , whiclThad been banded" to the Borough reeve bv Elijah Dixon . was one of the old rolsmes of ^ etsof " U 9 LJ

      iir . Alderman Kit came fonrard and said ihat Mr . Dixon was quoting a law-book of 1791 . He was informed by Mr . Coppock ( Mr . James Coppock , of Westminster ) that any individual elector , who could state the iact of the candidate ' ! being dujy qu&lifieii of his own knowledge , might put in a written declaration of qualification ; ' : * Mr . AldermaJi Kat then -tendered Mr . "W . R . Grtg , ( a hrother of ihe candidate , ) who said " I £ m lere asmy brother ' s representatiTe , having his power of attorney to act for him in all matters , and I tendir & declaration of-qualification . " - . lir . Geobge Condy asked if anything- could" be anore fair than to call on the Boron ^ hreeve and constables to administer the oath which his candidata

      iad taken ! - In answer to a qnestion from the BorDnghresre , Mr . C . J . S . Walkeb said—I don ' t £ ive « p my right to represent Or . Gr « g ; bat I hare no wish te speak if they won ' t hear me . Mr . Coxsr said if Mr . Walker claimed the privilege « n his own behoof , he ( Mr . Condy )' should-claim the same privilege for himself . Mr . E .. C . Miuti—^ There is no law about thfcmatteratalL At length , the confusion both on the hustings ., and in the crowd continuing , Mr . WalLer retired a 3 x > ut a quarter hefbre -twelve o ' clock . A long and unaccountable delay ensued , which some of the gentlemen near the Beronghreeve : said was occasioned by the absence of Mr . John Woollam , one of the constables , who had gone ibr some Act . „_

      Mr , Go >~ i > t announced that Colonel Thompson "was ready to take the oath of qnalificaiion . - Another delay ensned , and inquiry was made for Mr ; Stephen Heelis ; and it was stated in the JSCTonghreeve ' s compartment , thai he had gone to draw up * heoath _; Mr . George Ck > ndy came up to where SirGeore * yvrrxsyns itanding , aud assured that candidate that they aau Z ? 1 ?*>?*** *» qu ? - lLficauon oath from any disrespect" i * lum , hut there were others on the hustings with colonri not quite go pure & « his own . [ Mr . Condy had a bit of plank white paper in his hat-band , in comison a / ttih many of the crowd , who were supplied gratuitously by Mr . William Willis , with fragments of paper for ?^ r \ mi iwi tr \ gn -T '

      • ucvuiyv ^ ij Mr . Jj ^ rs Copppcx , to whom ihey thought it d » - sirable to put it , produced the Act of the 1 st and 2 nd Victoria , cap . 48 ; and quoted the I 3 iird section to shew that the demand must he made to the candidate in person . He also contended that the demand for the administration of this oath mnst he made i £ " Mr ? E . C . Mitre—Well , they must take their own ^ mTc . J . S . WALKE *~ ReaHy , this demand comes with a very had grace from the meni who v ^ f& ™ -desire to have So Property Qualification at . all for

      At length Mr . S . Heelis proceeded to copy the form ^ fdeiKoBii th . Actfor Sir George M . uTray ajid JLr . WWims did the same for Colon el Thonip » o n . We give the clause of the Act , and ihe subsraace of iie declaration : — - " ¦ Aud ' be it enacted , that every candidate at any -election of a memte or -mantes to serve }* J ™ £ rjuent for sny county , riding , -pal , or diviaon a . a countv , dty . toroush , or dnqne port .. a ; . ^ f ^ ¦ daELupmk reasonable request made to ton a . the tiffleef ' sach election , or at any time ud « w tee » ny zsbac ^ -in the - - nit of ammoES . ** iie ^ to ? " ' ^ lkment , by or oh hehalf of any cmaidate at such . deciisn , or by any two or more registered electors n- ™ *> a TOfct to rote at such clcction . muie end subsc ^ bea dect-T ^ -cn to the pumort or effect foUowing -. such request to bVi 3 xrrltlnK . ^ ^^ ^ ty the c ^ Ii ^ to , or ti * ^ - ima ^ -resd iiEcen ir ^ lafi , A : ilaaHtBe , . - ** Tj-riartvia- ^ ia ;^ £ f . aa ] v «!; -.:. cti ' ^ - ^ .--- " -- - l , inkier-oAha H-ns ^ of iCoiOii ^ -, - ^ - ' W W ~ ^ ¦¦

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      true intent and meaning of the act passed in the second year of the reign of Queen Victoria , intituled 'An act to amend the laws relating to the qualification of members to serve in Parliament , and that my qualincstion to be so elected doth arise out of [ here let the party state the nature of his qualification , as the case mar fce . &cl as hereunaer set forth . " And the election " and return of anj- person , wno , upon such request as aforesaid , shall-wilfully refuse or neglect to make and subscribe the said declaration within twenty-four hours after such , request shall ha-ve been so made , shall be void . " At length both were prepared , but much time was consumed in delay and squabbling about these matters .

      About a quarter-past ivrelve , —during these proceedings we observed that the crowd extended as far as the shop of Mr . Stnbbs , and there were probably from six to eight thousand persons present . It gradually decreased for some time afterwards , and again slightly augmented as the proceedings were drawing to a clpse , but if was never agun so large as from a quarter to half- pafit twelve o ^ lock . Allen ^ b ^ Mr . Wa ^ er hgr ^ TJep ^ ate d ^ ^ oMel Thokpson eajne&CTratrdit i quarter b& fore one ; , amidst cries of ^ Walker ^' ahd' ^ Go on . ^ ' He said—Gentlemen , aJ 16 ^ met »^» ie fa Tereplaui English the purpose for whic ^ J ^ comeier ^^ ntrcome to diTide Reformers from Non-Rdbritters . : { ffiit-is the quarrel which existslvetween me and our friends

      upon the right . They have made me , if I mistake not , an irrational Radical . I shall move that question , and conduct the argument by going back to the time when the Whigs and the Radicals acted in perfect union together . What did the Whigs do then ? Hold out a promise of further reform . We understood that the reform cause was to go forward ; and so we act * d . No man can say that the Radical members of Parliament did not faithfully adhere to the compact between the Whigs and themselves . To give , one instance of it i I refused to stand in tw © boroughs against a Whig , where I was asked . I « not that a proof of faith ! What came next ! A few weeks afterwards comes down the leader of the Whigs ,-and states that we must put up with finality . He always thought the landed interest wanted supin

      port : Parliament—( such , I think , were his words ) —and the Reform Bill would support them . He did more . He not only stopped all progress of reform , bnt soon it began to appear that broken friends conld turn into persecutors . Those who would have gone forward were attacked , as you knowy and were put down . Where " are they * t this present moment ) Here is the quarrel . We charge the Whigs with trcaspn . No question hert of what men think on this subject or on that . Will yon or will you not go on to press Stn ihe great subject of further reform \—(" Yes , yes . ") K » y , more ; will you act vigcrously , energetically , in IJI We ! don ' t want . men to go to sleep ; we want men VTf " C * n tmst for keeping thfcjr eyes open , and their t 6 ngu £ * ready to act in the public serrice everywhere . I , then , appeftf here for the pirpose of pledging myself to use every exertion within my power to carry forward that csose of reform which the Whigs have abandoned . On

      this I rest my claims . They haTe pnt iemi the means which the . numerous classes * have adopted j I ray not wisely , to forward their' canse [ The rain began again to fell heavily . ] That iraa a mistake . Don ' t mistake again . I oome here to in-- rit « you to unit * in fortainS one great uniTwaal stream of demand farr ^^ essive Reform . One ef yonr T \ Ti ) £ newspapenPCfclla me a " marplot . " I d ^ y it , because I ne ^ ' wai in the plot . They ^ ev er invited me to Join ; tham , for a good reason whT- They thot ^ ht . thej itad better leave it alone . Th * t was the secret « fin « Attack made apon mo in Marylet ^ ne , which > *» & in » y read in . the bills . That was ihe non-rtfonu «*» ' * & <» stop-reform men , moving down on those who th ^ knew would have gone forward . Treasnr * thatij 7 ° " ^ memory , and allow no man to speak in tootIC ™* of the smal !^ npmber of gallant Reformers in ^ irylebone , with dierespect , without giving him the . Tuswer vntif which I haTe furnished you . Not trill Ton ^ « "Qdt

      act apoirtbe eonntry , if it does not in this instx place m » m the representation of your borough , vv nich man is the most likely to go forward ? Believe no man ; all men cheat their constituents in something , as all men eheat their wrrei . ( Laughter ) 1 say to men as I would gay it to women—believe none ; but if you have seeu that a man was sober honest , creditable , straightforward in his proeeedutgs , trust him ¦ he may be honest to you hereafter ] 1 throw out no slight on any man ; but I say trust the past , and never prefer if to the future , if you can hc-lp it . All men tell a good story before their constituencies : most man afterwards do as little as they can . Therefore I advise you , trust any man who , at all events , has given you assurance in times past , that he was in favour of yonr canse . Note

      , let n » enter into an examination of tha points on which bit opinions may come into collision with those of the opposite candidate on our right . It has been endeavoured to b « stated to you that there is no difference . Now , let us » e » . On the question of the Corn Laws , say , wo are united ; but who was the first aud the oldest soldier in that cause ! ( Hear . ) Who wrote and struggled for it when men were scarcely answered by anything but the question , u What can thi * babbler mean » " And when 1 baa by my best exertions placed it in the fore-front of the battle , and was not quite unknown , 1 think , in Manchester , it was rather hard , I think , to call me point-blank an interloper ; for if I am an interloper nere , at all eventa I was an interloper before . ( "Then you was invited . " ) Would it not be supposed , if the removal of the Corn Laws was the

      object , they should have given their support to me who wa 3 the oldest standard bearer in the cause . D « yon think it is probable the other candidate would , if you elect him , giva to the country so strong , so forcible evidence that . you desire the removal of tho Corn Laws , and your approval of all who take that side , as if you elected- him who first began it ? So mneh for the first point . Next on the extension of the Suffrage . Now I state to you boldly , that I was perhaps the first man who laid down in print the hroadprinciple on which . Universal Suffrage is just . If you enter a market , does n * t the poor man make such use of his small property as he can ! Does not the rich man make use of his greater property ! and is not that quite fair ! What would yon say to the rich man who Baid , " We

      cannot enjoy our property , fairly , unless we have leave to shut " out the poor men altogether ? " Ask him , then , how far he will so . I'll go to the point of justice , which is to give the Suffrage to you all . I'll not put it forward rashly or hastily , nor withdraw it hastily and raihlv ! ior I'll bide my time ; I'll take all advantages ; I'll avow the principle boldly , everywhere ; I'll shrink from no opportunity of putting it in advance , and , as I suspect , I should do more towards the progress of that cause , than-any candidate here . Let me speak on another pointthe Ballot . Now , I appeal to the Gallant and Honourable and Gentleman who is here before you , whether it is not strictly correct that every officer of her Majesty ' s army sitting in Court Martial , takes an oath not to disclese the votes o ? opinions of any

      of the officers sitting asmembers orthat Court , and even the surgeon takes an oath not to disclose any of their Totes or opinions . What is that for ? The law believes that a man will execute his trust with justice . I » ° rd John Rassell , he will not give the Ballot ! because the vote is a trust . Compare that with the examples that 1 have set before you . The ric set tie example , for there is not a club where tnV " K ? Hot is not used by iho rich : for the rich men do notice * ° to questioned , — " How did you Tote , Sir on this . " question , or on that ? " The next thing to be done is Co set up a hatch against them Probably the candid ate on my right wiU press that forward bnt will he Drc 33 forward ? will he become Z&J ^ S ^ Wrf ae doctrine ? What would you think of the man vrho would propose to you to settle his accounts every , seventh year ! Would von not say " that man acsires to see us all in the trust

      Gazelle ? " Is it reasonable 10 give a man a , and say , " " Execute it as boldly as you please , because it is seven long years before we will call you to account . " When 1 was a boy , it "was the habit to sav that such a man was selling himself to the devil . That was the term . It was thonght ^ that seven years bore such a proportion to a mans hie that a " man was sold to perdition . Yon settle yoiir accounts annnally . All wise men settle their accounts annuallv . Let inc ask if the candidate on EiY ri"hi will pledge hinisclfto Annual Parliaments —; never to give up the point—1 do not say I will not take less at a time . Let us mention another point . % iuch troisW- ' has Itch uiven to-day iu -demanding tLo yroiKTry -. iV . aiiikativiu of the candidates , ijo " f » ji .: Y ^ yarci / y ^ i . at leas t , you would be better without it . " What is the use of it * I cannot , coi ^ o here withosi C ' -rin ^ it- li does ' uot make t > -- .

      _ , _ i tice better fur it . What would jou ^ onh ( P ^ who were composed of # >^ tlls 5 of mcil ? ^ 'hu t | would they uo ii mm f \ ^ uihei clas 3 wcre t 0 be bro'J ? ht betv re tatlii ; ^^ . ^ are m Ayho are sc _ : iccre-.: : ' - ' .- ^* ' f , t } , c bentiit of ru ' s ai . J ]> c-yr ; ¦ l > ut y ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ' ¦ * ± , ,, vr , iho 4 oor ¦ = sl : v . z n < a i :: ; :. i -tv }; 0 \ i- ' ¦ ¦ ¦ - ' '— " . ; , ; : / i ( i a a ; 1 : - ; a .. J ihcrci \ . i ,. \ r-: \ ^ zi . ^ i-i ; - - - - ¦ - * "' . : - . - .: iV ^ -: 1— ; : ' - the y-jor . . V . 'ik- ? i : " -. •; . j r ~ . - .- ;; . ; ,: ; -iui-. . - :--i > - t : ji-y found it -ivi-nJu Kill

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      more heavily on the rich than the poor , they comp -i ^ ned very loudly .: What trickery was there in fc oirfisw ^ j 011 1 There are men here who smoke to T ba * cco . , Dj ° - TOtt know that your shilling ' s-worth of tobacco pays pleven times the duty that the whiskered . dandy pays for the cigars which he used ? In other ^ articles tho same principle is practised . We do not tjemand that all power shall be , given to the poor ; but we do demand that if the poor have wise men -ambries k f tne ™ of their owu class , they shall have the right to / W * ** them to parliament without being riddled out ; II vou had the principle of no property n .. oi ;«/ . ni ; nn t tu : ik it verv likelv that vou would

      pay your member . 1 . f ™ I -. was . paidj I would not only take n ¦ hut I wouldlay . it out in some lasting memorial v . Hat would show that I had enjoyed . the good will ofj ^ y fcllow-country-inen . 1 have been paid in gratitude' ; ? w-hon :-you ca « prevailin establishing the praclv ^ . of members being generally paid , it , will be wise ana ^ ood . How many objects have ' -I-spoken of ! How mxh points have 1 talked about J—( CheersO I think fi > . - God and nature ~ have giyeu you an iristnimenti tC keepf the number of t& 3 ? i stand Vjipon the five ppmtSi

      Ask oiir . riTal ff ho win Rfj >| id _ on-five iwiii ^^ - -m § L ^ mm ^ i ^^^ - ^ - ^^^^ never -hw ^ ' " take the road'ihW liada to ^ a ( 5 i ^ ati 0 H upon ^ H ^ U ^ - -Tb ^}^^ p ^^^ j ^ t at tMtf . mte king a stalking horse of that which was meant to J 50 man ' s best hope . for / the- peace' and happiness o . * sofiety ; and they trust to that great fire brand in orter to keep you ignorant aid dead . > I-will say no more than to propose myself for / such questions asany : gentleman in the crowd may Offer to moi % comehero to be questioned . I amfor the baptism Mt ^ per years of politics . I love not infant baptism , ht > r : the . candid dates that should come" to ansiver through their godfathers and godmothers . ( Laughter . ) They may promise and vow anything in the world . They may

      promi&o to resist the devil and all his Avbrks . Will they resist the new Poor Law ! v . lChecrs . y Ask them wheth ' . T there is any difference between them and me on that question . I voted with'Mr . Walter for inquiry into that law . I pled gedmyself , ifneed be , if nothing bettor could biV fouhdj I would movp any time 1 M-asiii Parliament , at ^ the instance ; of my constituents , for a return to the Poor Law of Elizabeth . 1 voted for the cause- of the factory children iu the memorable instaiie-e when we came within two of being a majority . Tho Government took the hint , and dropped the question thoh , and I cannot tell when they will take it up again . That is the great difference between me inid my quondam and 1 fiiture friend on my right . Thflydhlerievo mo

      when they called mo irrational . > here is the point which they have taken soms paius to spread . \ Vill they or you tell me which of those points Is . irrar tional ! 1 will detain you no longer tlian to express my hope , that we shall exhibit a speeimen of an utiited power , which , whether it is to bo ' -used- ' or-not , shallestablish the poor man ' s cause—the cause of the mUrlpresented ; for that is a greater sin tfosni * ny of our oppressors have retracted . We have no onemios now . There ja not an enemy among us . We will all follow and take the advice of the great leader-of ths Irish people . We will take what y ? o -can get , and ask for more . Concede these two points , and 1

      cjies 3 "there aM those who aro afraid of us already . Lei me urge upon ttfti the fact , that there is no differeuo " between theTc » l interests of tho richer portion of the community thuil of the poor .. If any of you think that you have found that your ma ^ r ' s interest i / o " ftercnt from yours , depend upon it * hat vou are mi ^^ cn / You jiu d they . are made of one Besh and Soou J , ^? f ? J ote 8 ' >?*^? <*» show good-wHL You s l ia 11 W the . army ^ . reserve , and shall riin - . inf , action next ^ Ime . With these exho ^ U ioTl shall leave you rping . thatMall events vbT will Bav T ' lld uot do ttn impertinent Si ^ WhenTcam ^ « ^ fgfT ^ $ *** lant Colonel withdrew amio .. ^; > P d < : teer 8- ; ^ . ^

      ^ PpipSM ^ J * ofi 5 » le anrderer 1 " from ln 9 n ? ^ Wneard cheers from b » friends . When he w \* ^ ou bespoke as follow . j-Iam quiierejwi ) -to ftddiv ' W anu i am the ^ mot * anxious to W « in r bocfttj * have x ' ready been drtaiued much longer than yW perhaiw , iJxoected when you came ' here . My McA has always Veen , with respect to nomination , that it / vras iutendea to afford to thV candidate an opportunity of ginnfe an explanation to tUe Coh . < = fituency of the placo he seeks to represft ^ t » VAt are his principles upon questions of pubR « -jHj *\> rt- ante . Gentlemen , I have listened " with the mseet attention to the two speeches that -were muHe by the gentlemen on my right hand . I had fluent

      Toured to ascertain irom those speeches tho principles of the absent candidate . 1 do not know what may be the cass with you , but I have not been able to make out any distinct views whatever—( groans and hooting )—with respect to him . I understood when you were addressed by tho gentleman who proposed the absent candidate—I understood that his principles were Whig principles ; but , when the seconder came , X was given to understand they were not Whig principles , but the principles of "a . rational Radical . " 1 do not kuovr what meaning is to be attached to that new sort of politicians who have sprung up . I have listened to th « speeches that were made from my left hand ( where Colonel Thompson ' s friends were ) .

      They have been frank , clear , and straightforward , without any possibility of misunderstanding-- ( tremendous cheers from the Radicals ) , —or any doubt whatev # r what are the principles of the gallant candidate on . my left . He has put them forward in plain and distinct terms . He ba « toJd you what his objects art , and-you cannot possibly mistake his principles . I understand that to be the true object of a candidate coming face to face with thoso whom he wishes to be his constituents . l ' regret the absence of Mr . Greg , because probably had he been present he would have explained with equal clearness what his sentiments are . ( Shouts of " Speak your own ; let us know what youre are . ") I will nrocecd to toll vontr ^ i ' mv ™ r-

      , ciples are . ( Hear , hear . ) I will not detain , you upon the subject of the constitution of the country , for I will take it for granted that you are all r supporters of a limited monarchy . I will so far agree with the gallant gentleman on my left . 1 am not a finality man . I do not know what ffnality means in legislation . ( Cheers . ) Suppose any capitalist here was to put up a piece of machinery for a great and important work , do you suppose that if any improvement was introduced he would not adopt it ? If it must bo adopted with respect to the machinery for the production of articles of commerce , it must bo also applicable with respect to the machinery of the state . Tliero-canj not . be by any possibility a legislature passing an act which they are to lay down is tote a final act

      with respect to the political constitution of the country . I will say a Avoid ahout the Poor Law . The gentlemen upon my right have endeavoured to insinuate , that 1 was a friend to the Poor Law Amendment Act , as it is called . I have been at all times decidedly opposed to that act . I think that act is based upon principles which are not at all applicable for such an object . I have now stated my opinion frankly and openly on the subject . I think it is a severe and harsh Jaw . I know what my feelings would bo if I were separated from my family—Uoud laughter and groans)—and I cannot but feel for the poor man . / There is a clause in it , I think , affecting the female sex , which is extremely harsh and extremely unjust . ( Shouts of the "Cora

      Law . ' ) I will proceed to speak upon the Corn Law . My opinion is this . We have heard it stated there upon my right , that if Mr . Greg were returned , he would be the advocate for a perfect free trade all ov * r the world . That is more than I will be . ( Hooting , ) I think , that if that is the case , you will have articles , the natural productions of other countries , coming in here to compete with the pro--dnctlous of your industry . (" Oh , oh !") The ret ^ re , to that extent , to the principles of free trade which the gentlemen upon my right hand have pledged their absent candidate , I will not pled ge myself at all ; for I conceive that every branch of industry in this country should have such protection that it siiould give the balaiice or advantage to the industry of oar own countrymen a- . aiUSt tne industry of forcigiiers . , ( " " ph ^ ^ of P . ' ' ) i think that every branch of in < Iustry at nome ought to be protected . ¦* '

      ( Snouts of We do # not want protection . ") Every brauch of md' - ^ jy s ] l 0 V [[ d be protevted . to a degree that is ju- - ^ towards the other ' uraiiches . I consider tjr le greatness of this country is founded upon t 01 )> -. ffiei- -e ^ id mai 'riactures ; and I will tell you , for ^ r ^ era / ihat ' if-Wj . ^ ^ . ^* " ' ?^ - ^" ^ "" ^ ar law , is introduced , ^ -Inch-shall tend to . di-ive commerce oat of this yount-rj ' , it » u ^ T 0 e x pealed . ( Shouts of ** What is tllO Corn Latr V j laughter . ) With regard to the Com Law , all the agriculturists have a right to expect is to liaVe the i saae protection for their industry , that ; the cojr- ! o : ;; i and manulisinriKg riicii have for the ' " uKf , h , ) T-: cv hav ^ -nomo :, right , to a fr ^ - jSg i ^^ m ^ : * :: ^ $ ^ , ^ f ™ f i ... , -. ,. lUU -- * i- 'ee : i iB ; i- ! c ; to i ™ -, « -awa tompel capuausis to astaWsl , „» ,,,., .

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      factories abroad . They ought to be repealed . ( Shouts of " . Corn Law , " ) The industry of the country is divided ; and I think it has beeii bbserved by my gallant ¦ friend , on my left , or spine Other gentleman , that tho industry of the country is divided into two classes—tlio capitalists and the operatives ; I here should be capital to set in motion the intelligence , and labour of tho operatiyo ; arid there should belabqur , otherwise capital is / of no use . ( Cries of Cheap bread . ") Cheap bread—every one must be

      desirous of Waving cheap bread ; and I will cxi ) lain my views upon it , if those whom L am addrossing will allow mo . I am onlyfor tho protection of equdhty for tho goodg of this or anr other country . ' No class of industry ought to be pro tected more than another . \ Vo-havc had meiitionod the question of education . ( Shouts of " tho . ' Coin . Law . " ) I hate already spoken upon that . I have held to you always the same language ; ( Uproar . ) I say ^ if there should exist , any law or system of laws tending to depress the commercQ and lnauufactures of this conntrj , that is a dangerous law . : :

      [ Mr . J . B . Smith—What is the Corn Law ?—^ does not that do it 1 . ¦ ¦" . - . ¦' ...,. ' u . ' - ' ' .. : ¦ - ¦ - '•¦ :- ' . ; . '" . " -. was ^^»^^ t ^ pSI « i ^ l ^^ &E « e 'jr ) i& introduced it , but 3 T !^ be ^^ a ^ : ^^^ fc 6 t i injoi ^ bnsly " toi all pajfUeSiS 'It ^ fea ^ i sgn saidijtjiati ¦ there omtht ^ to he a % xj ftdutyi -I mMm ^ M ^ 'im ^ mmi ^ a / fiwi dutyv ™^^ # and cri ^ o ^ fe ] . But ^\ there ^ e ^ ^^ iprMhlhai ^ fllclt in calculatea , for . ^ fMetmmm nj ^ nufacturei ^ d agriculturist . fSfioHts : of" Hby ^ muclfauty would y ^] ' ^ l r ^ : ^^ duty f : l will not pledge

      S- « rMr-TfW -f' ^«* oa ^» hisses ; andshouts o f . Oft . ) iiI have always acted / to this manner . I haro av . ways sta ^ d . what . ¦ my general principles are , — - ( shouts-o * uir J )—; and I have endeavoured to a , ct tipott them . Allow-: metp take this opportunity of stating to you , after I have gone through the ditferent topics 1 have : if > address : yon upohy that if there be iany person noy ? ! wishiug to ask me a questiohi -I slialj be happy tp > auswer him to the best of my power , if you will allow toe to go oii . i ( Grqaiis . ) 'Mr . Prentice , who had heard' Sir George ' s invitation to Jin ' y one to ask himi questittiisi advanced forward for the pirpbse of putting somei ; ppoii which Mr . J ; JB > Waiklyn called - . piit . v to . ; tho Borbughreove jjr i

      — » . ijoro ^ areove , can upon you to protect the candidate . '' A grpat uproar ensued iiitiie Toi-y booth , the gentlemen , m which appeared extremely desirous to tu . * u Mr . Prentice dowii a , youth named Peel beiug psrtipuldtly COiispicuons by his vociferations , but Mr . Prentice stood his ground . ] Sir iGeorge contiiued , — -. Thero are , Geivtlenicnj a great maiiy questiois from differeHt sides ; but if the questions arc put « no after ; another , ¦_ I will answer them I have alreacy stated , that ,- if you will give me leave to go oil . I will-give it reply to yonr questions . Allow mo to concludci the yarious topics I have to address you upon , and then' I will ausuur any question you jjay put . Let us advert to the qvicstioti of education , I hare always been a friend in

      education . I have not the least idea that education can do an injiry to anindividual , or a community . 1 have ho fbar from thospread of education among the people . ( Laughter and groans . ) 1 have no desire to impede educitipu ; but I-have every desire that / a large proportion of the pubhc money , that shall be deemed proper to apply to that object , shall be applied' to it . I certainly / do think it cannot be applied to a better purpose . AH my desiro is , that such a system ehall be adopted as shail not separate intellectual from religious education . ( Hooting . ) i ^ desire thenc to go hand in hand tpg « r ther . iithinfcJJt , would uot he a good-arraiigemefit to : | P ) . aCQ ^ the iiuitruction of ' thoyouth of this ^^ c ountry under a fco * rd established by the Gbvornmeut .

      'Ahere would vM * great tesisoii to appreheiid , that those teachen jfrho w « W appointed under the board fetahlislied by | ott Govepiment mighy be desirous of : turning . the qSi # d » of tho youth of the country ^ fco-1 P ^ H ^ fclW 1 ^ : ! poii » lca . ^ Ik dQ np ^ « w-e whetBir It . ^ -4- ^^ iK-viGr 6 ' Tcrfain ' eiit , - ''' flr- a Tory ^ oyeroiStot ^ tfiMitit ^^ TJiat is a lie ")^ -df Radiijal Goyerp ^^^^^ i ^^^^ th » p ^ w < Jr : Oi dttfcWJIihe bias of the fljina \ W yoHth in political msttefFThatis not the bbjeot ojf education . There was ahbther topic mentioned on the vv ^ side . It was an attack upon partyv If . the / Whig Government have conducted the atfairs of the country wel you ought to judge of them by - their actions , and * uotlby any iwpu ^ nons that may be cast upon them I- ¦ any person . ' The ^ mihisters o ( the country * ffi j wont to

      : < \ i » - -upus -perfonn , > n di you « hould give SST * . " P ^ thoP «^ ™ ance of / it . If after So ?^ ™ ^^ : fi ^ ttoy arenptpurau , in ^ thiv ^ S * . ; e ^ Thich Ihey ^ ug ht / topursue , you o ^ ntS di ^ t ^^^^ ep ,, ^ ^ constitutional inesiis d& > W e ™** frpm the Gore ^ 'nientof the country , ^ ^ HJ ) . u v " hmg against the W ^ s . I will say nothing fB * fn ^ c « ' ^ party or parties . *" am not here k * ¦ the * « iko ° i m ^ ing a particular objection to any vno ; r , b » v 6 y w * ra kprne pbjectioh on-my right hand" < Mr ; tf *|« g s friends ) > : ith regard to my o \ yn profe& , 8 ion , CV ^ * whig they hardly de . s « rve ati answeri I think , ^ ifemen , that thai mau who enters th » sW'vico of ;¦ » 'is cotntry as asoldier lia « no reason to be ashamed , " . ^ n exercising the

      daties of my prpfessiori , I have ne ^ er exercised them for any other purpose than that of defending my own country against other countries , aiid on behalf of thOBO countries > yho Were wishful to support their independence / It is a profession , gemtlemen , which has the object of protectiri £ as well asdcstroying . It lias also > beeii observed of me , that I liave been taking lessons since I came to Alancbester } but wheu the gentleman stated I went into a mill , he was wrong . I should be dxceedinjflv happy to visit those establishments , I have done so b « tore , hut not since I came ' to Manchester . Tho gentleman thought me so ignorant that I did not knyw the differeiico between one kind of wool and another ; that I do not know the diiferencei between lamb

      ' s wobl and cotton wboL Poes tho centleman suppose that I never bought a pMr of stockings m my life ? rBut these are observations to which , I attach no importance and 1 have no doubt you . attach no importanee ^ to them either If my being a soldier is au objection , then it will apply ^ equall y asmuch to the gallant colonel -as mvself There is another piecp of ignorance of which he might have-accused me , —that until 1 came here , I did not know what a blue-bottled policeman mcairt . Now , my opinion is , that peace would be much better kept by a system established by the people themselves , ! than by a person sent by the Secretary of State . M ( Tory cheers . ) I say as to an army qt police , if you consent , if the legislature consent

      to have an army of policoall over tho country , they will consent to what I think is not cousisteht with the liberty of the country . I am partial to local autljonties . There has been an authority introduced among you of late under the Charter of liicorporatloa- _ 1 will say nothing against that authority . It has been dono by tho crown , and I will say uothiug againstwhat is done by the crown ; but , at the fame time , for Avhat is done by tho crow . ii ministers are responsible . The charter may be valid or not valid . I am not qualified to decido the question It must be djecided by a court of law . We are all eensiblo that an incouvionienco has resulted rom it at tbiBi election , because we find that two ( authorities have been , acting in appointing a

      day of nomination and election ; ( A voice on the hustings , " Through the . mistake of the UnderiSherifi , );—and that these' two authorities have been acting independent of each other ,, and -we are in a state of uncertainty as to which authority can give validity to your votes . I will say np more oh that question , beeauso however it may agitaia / fteminda of this commuhityj I have no light to do . btherwise than respect what the law may ultimately determine to be right . ; The Poor Law has been alluded to , and Ltrust you will understand I ajri ua Mend to the ? oor Law . ftwaa said of mothat Ishbuld be . but I am no mend to it whatspever .. I a « e many gentlemen there withs white papers ia their hats [ tho friends of Cdl . Thompson ] , and will address myself

      to tnem . 1 nave fteara th , e Uallant eolonel state his opinions . IhivbheardHmsitpttethatheisauxiaas ; o go forward with the reform principle , and that he is for several changes , which ha has stated to vou I am not prepared , to go quitp so fast as my brother officer on tha , t subject , ( llissfes . ) It appears to me that we had better try , for a 1 Rtfo while longer , the working of' ^ hat machinery constructed for goyerniiiE the couutry , | befoi'e we outer upon any ne ^ y changes . ( . Renewedliissesi . ) . I have no objection to a chaii"c when it is brought forward with duo deliberation hut I am notfor A going onwith that steam velocity ' which my Gallant Kriend wishes . [ A voice ^ 'Vote by Ballot . " ] : I am persuaded ¦ Vote by Ballot would

      not haTe that effect which some think- it would , j think it would not have thatf effect , and I ana r ' ^ more inclined to a frank and open avov V ' " .- -1 ^ cn man s vote at the hustings > i- ? "'^ n ° \ F ? r »" -: \ v ; i ] — - v ,, f ,. > . -- " - ¦¦ ,... auto a system of ballot . , ..... v « -v- - *« rtmiscliold Suffrago Ty I will not vote , at pi ' esoi ' jt , foi any introduction of any new change , till' there has been a fiill trial of the present state of things ' . Mca vrlio were themselyeiJ active in establishing that system of law which lipw exists With regard ( 6 e . ( octioii : i and tlve suufa ' gbv . ? . nu-w . no wcr < 3 ¦ t'hem ' -xlv * . mstnuneutai in bringing fei-ward tint nifi ^ lw h : Sta-t-: * l " .. i \ - -lo Ic ttidc QpiH ' . ' on i ! -t ¥ tii . ' ' -. AcR ^ n 151 « li : t " ' ^ lilci 1 W . a « j : * c' 4 ie : ! t - iu irking all ' ^ M * n > it ? , ci exiiected trDinvit , thai

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      has been the result of tho conduck Vof tno Par | y In poAver who had tho management of it . Mr . Edward Nightiiigalo--Sir George Murray says he is not an advocate for the New fee" Amendment Act . I want to know if ho be in f ^ v »? ur or that part of that miguitous Act , wherein iHe rich mau gets many votes , and the poor man t' « t ono vote . _ Sir George Murray—Is that in respect to the Poor Law ?

      , Mr . Nightingale—The Poor Law , or Sturees Bourne ' s Act . ¦ Elijah Dixon—Aye , but the Poor Law is nine times as bad as SturgeaBourne ' s Act . ¦ . Sir-- George Murray—I have : heard a gentleman the second irom mo , eay that he considers the Poor Law nine times as bad as Sturges Bourne ' s Act . -I am quite prepared to say ^ that 1 desire that the Poor Law Amohdment Act should bei revised : ¦; . and if it can . be improved , to do so . If it cannot , then I would concur with my gallant friend on my left , in rpturmng to the old law-. The cause of the iutrpduction of the Poor Law was : this : ^ -that very great abuses' had arieeia iii Borne places , uot in the law w ^^ t-p ^ Mmm ¦ ¦ ff awiW 4 MU 1 UUUTO 1 ftauu

      7 i . ?^ - r * - *? 9 * c ^ SwsMS- Mnlt ^ ajm ^ hui B ?< m ^ cm ^ mmmMa m < & $ ^ m $ g ^ h ^ pwneipk ^ eefitrah ' rationlwhl ch I coMdS a ^ ee 1 bu ^^ ^ nC 0 U ^ W ^ S « f ; , 'Nightingalev-I don ^ j think you haveanswered that question to the eaitisfaction of the majority of 'those gehtiemen ; who are present .-.:. I want njbstdistiuctly to kuo ^ r from you , whether you are in favour of the rich man having more yotes in parochial matr ters than the poor maul ' " :

      bir Creorga Murray—I am sorry that I should not have answered the question tp his satisfaction Gentlemen j- ' hitf I merely state this ^ that I ani anxious to rptur » to ^ the law-. ' of ^^ Elizabeth , if w ^ cannot amend the present Act . /( Several ybicos—He does not understand it ; it is not tfie law bf Elizabeth . " ) :: . '/// :. Elijah Dixon eHdeavpUre"d-tomake : the Bight Hon . candidatp comprehend , that ^ tije Act in question Vas Sturges Bourne ' s Vestry Act of 181 ^ which h « said , insome instances gave the rich man nine Votes the poor man having only one . V / '

      Sir Geor £ e JMurray—I have understood here , that the law of Sturges Bourne niade au altoratioii in the law of Elizabeth . I haye no objection , gentlemen , to return to the law of Queen Elizabeth . Elijah Dixon—The gallant General says lie has noi objection . to retum to the system that gave the rich min and the poor mail oiie vbto aud ho mpre in parish affairs . ( Tho Tories-- " He did not say so ' . " ) Mr . Nightingale—^ You have niade the ' JJew Poor Law one of your principal topics . 1 want naps * distinctly to kuovv whether you a . ve for tinkering up that ActjOrat once returning to the Act of 43 rilof Elizabeth ? / / Bir G . Murray—Before exactly making a reply to this qaestionallow me to statQ—( Cries of

      ^ "Ah ! " and "Question ,, " )—that if a bad law is to be tinkered up , as yPu say , and still to re main a bad law , I say the tiiikering has not been perfect . I have a desire to get rid of a bad law when it is shown that it is bad ; but I make this distinctiou . I say the mau who asks to bo ' . ' sent to Parhainent should state his general principles ; but he should ask to . be sent there untettered with respect to particular votes . I have never in : my life given my pledge upon partictilar . Votes ; but 1 have beeii willing to'give a pledgo to general principles . If a bad luwr cannot be tinkered-iatb ' a good law , I will not accoptit or support it . '"" ' : ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ~ ¦ ; . - : ¦

      Mr . NightiiJ-galer-baouW you-be returned member for Manchester j arid any member should bring in a Bill for abrogjfting entirely ^ for erasing that odious law , the Poor- Law , from the Statute Book , wh ^ course would you ^ ursuel S \ f % Jrturyay-HL ain yery-glad that : question is put , bocaaeo it $ ies me the 'Oppprtunity ; of stating my : Views with r < &p « ct to the dutie ^ p ^^ ni ojpjjtfgr of . Parliament , ^ ksay" that /; a , _ naA ^ fho ^ a&s ' fyt inP&ft liament—into a ^ deliberative assemWy---s ^ ouIa go there unfettered by a pai-ticular pledge to a par *' cular vote ; ho shouldbp unshackled by auy pir , ' j ( Groaiis aiid hisses from the Chartists . ) . - ^ ges

      fir . Nkhtingale— I ought to hav v . . fro ^ pasfe ?^^^ to Uve" SSfe pledges from you . Shou da ^ easure be brought into the § ° usc for lesBQiung ^ nt ^ duration of ParigmS -for AnnuaVor a-i »* r- v t . ^ ts-wLat course _ fc > ir Goorg& Murray—ii ^ nPe ^ rB to me . that this i ^ ex actly a question of the same fhafacter as the last . ( Rewewed jesses and groans . ) Let u'S ^ apw ^ ssa ^ sa l ^ mi ^ msmm

      Mr ^ fr ; £ lmngale-- ' hereare many ladiTiduals here tv no have not had art opportunity of topwina tbe answer you gave me to one question thsit I out * P yon on Saturday iaet . ) Vliatcouz-se . would you bur KHe , if there were a petition presented to the House of Commons praying the Queen " to remit the sehi tences » f the Chartista sent tP prison by the sun porters of Mr ; Greg , ana by the magisterial cX leagues pf his mo ter and sfteouder ; likewise p rayuijr her Majesty not to M&secute those men ? who are 6 u on bail on similar charges ? Sir George Murray—I hare Always pursued , and always will pursue , the pjindp / e of being ready to present any petition wi& \ vhich 1 am entrusted only taking care that that petita « n shall be couched in such term * aB will ensure ita yeacLing the table of the Rouasof CommpiiB , "W ith KBpoct to thei

      Chartists , all I have tpsayisthis ^ -evory class of meu in this couutpy , who conceive tliay ire laboufing under grievances ,, ^ rpyided they pijoceed to ehdeavour to get these grievancea redresse * in <» : legal and constitutional manner ^ aud ¦' wit-hint * ' making a disturbance iu the pountry ,: have / a , right to have their grievances heard .- This gejitleman ( Mr . Nightin gale ) told me the other day thakhe was nOt a physical-force Chartist ! , and I amlglad « f it . I ani a great advocate for avoiding phssicalfoce ; laman advocate for grocceding in a l ^ il and sonstitutional course . Physical force is thei ketithin& that should > e resorted to , ;; every means a £ redresa inUst have

      beeu long resorted to , beforo I woulcl recommend tho people o £ this manufactwring and iiidustrious country to havo . recpursp to pbyaical , for «« . . . M r . ^ Nightingale—You , Sir > are perhaps aware that there is * an act ot fariiameht , whiclii ifeout two years since .-passed the legislature ,, eaabline the Secretary of State , whoever he may be ,. to » . end thbae blood-thiHftr agsassinH , the metropolitan police , to dohis Woody , work in my place thrpughout Great Bntaib . ( Qrpanfl , andcriesof " Shame ^ ' ^ and" Off otrn , ShoBlda ^ iU he brought befb ^ ^ e ^ ou ^ of Commoas to repeal that as » , whatcaarse would you pursue an to that measure ?

      Sir Geb , Mxrray—1 think what I baro already said of my objectioBtothe principle of eaotrahzatioa is pretty nearly in amount an answer to the question now put t * me . I am sorry that harsl ^ words ha ve beea used .. I believe the inetropolitan nolice to be a very useful foxcein London ; but 1 abould be glad to gee local police , in such places as tbia , / instead of a police being sent down from the Secrifery of JState "Hear , * from the ^ Tories ^ retorted by ^^ ' " hearV from the Literals . ) Let tranauillity be treaerv « d hv tV , »

      admiiiwtration of wise Ci ^ s , and by educatihr tho people- ~( h « ar , from Mr . Greg ' s frien& )^ --A » d teaching titem from the as % ui « tioh of knowledge ^ to undesstand that theit owfl r « al interest and &e traMjuillity of the covetry are inseparabl y ^ pineciaa with , one another , a * ti then there icouli be nb .-B 8-cessity for sending tize metropolitan , police into . any jka » t of the coontrj ^ 1 have alrea % said 1 da , Wt like that kind of cml 8 tandiag army whiaV w the arniT of ti » Secretary of Stske ^ and noAoS A / ^ rbwn . . . •¦ .- - ¦' .. ¦¦ - ' v ¦ . . - - - '¦ - ¦ . ' - ¦ . - ¦ . - ¦ ¦ ¦ - ¦ . ¦ -

      Mr . NigjhtiBgal *—Yon must be aware . + ib # ' ¦ place-humiog aad notoriously factioua faafw . epdeavpurei tb » fasten upon JsaaDLilWnVqir b ^ , incbrporiktipov whereby tho inb . Hbitje ^ ' f ? ° . borough , ol Manchester ha \> beea heaxij ^ P » the (" oo , " ^ , »> -. to suppoit an Btt « ,- * . ^ ed ^ : body of mehj hateful to ws io thei > 4 p * . ltntional and stiU iaaoro hateful iii Shea ijy »> d P . ^? dress , trained Uke soldiers , thongk ««<« , iK . drilled and ciyiloflicers . Will you oppose w only to apt as into / the- House to make » a iK * r . . ^ . » e agure-brought act ? 3 al charter a legal

      Sir G , Murray—If there , V nnw A i . .., / , to the legality of that aot vtf ¦ ¦ W « Pnbt withregard up by a conri of law . \ ^ ^ f ^^^ Z ^ ei charter of incorporatioo if ? ; \ y ° ^ e for S beWropg butI 8 « yv- .. h eiSe o be ^ Ho rit may a charter of incorpor dij ^^ ° J »* a * . « to arant sh «^ uM t ^ certain t ' ^^^^ pv ^ place . ^ * ^ coinmsmty is to ^ ^ Q hjtu ? % i dMre . of tfeat tbe Tone ? , retortf 4 > . . / vrter ^( hear , hear , gtom be no doubt lalt »•• y the Liberal )!) ; there shoald be a nutter <¦ * -pon thequeaUon ; it Bhould not it or no ' y apub t whether the cbmuiunity -wiah ¦¦ ¦»•> - /¦ ¦ ., , . snopW not he grnnted , unless there ia -mple aenre for it on tie part o ! the communitv . /^ capse-a ' KRint . iin ^ ies Wif w tiveu ! asTbool ' - . and or th « bj-nefif of th * { . fee whfeh * t $ It- ^ J p' it- » a uiewrtri , mml ^ r ' r s 0 , uolitt ^ f or ^ - bu . tui ^ ose . m w imp «^ ibie il ^ t I ciii ¦ $ * - ' i- ^<\ v " • ^ uim crt . i .

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      such a measnre as that . Bat it does not depend upon iny opinion ; it ? legality mnst fee decided in " a , coart ot . isMi . If a charter i * granted at thV desire of the cbmtaunity , and thers is no other object in viev ? bit the good of that corainuuitj , ihat ia ' piftK ceeding upon a right principle but if-. it ^ b ? granted with ' -a .: view ^ to any ^ political purpose , thea it is ? in intrusion and intenerence with local affairs , which I think ought iot to ^ takfepiikC 8 * / ; : ; Mr / A ^ Prentice— Si r Gebred MotTaT . t ^ tav §

      expressed yourself as , opposed ; to , the English Poor Law . / I ask you , during the time you vrewi Scotch representative , whether you ever did any thiugto r "? n « fer the Scotch Hystem of Poor Law , mere liberal ? ( Uproar . ^ : / ¦ / ^ Mfr Nigi ^ gale- ^ Gentlemen , r trust that you'l hear the tx ^ ioi ^ i ^ MiT ^ txeii ^ , ^ : ] - Mr . Prentice—MY . Bp / oughreeye , do ypa apprbva of andallowsuchlaBgn ^ e upon the hUHtingo ¦? ' ¦ : ¦ . The Borpughreeve-r-HoV caoi telp it ? /

      Sir Gporge Murr 4 y-r--r ani / q ^ 'Ja ready to ariswei Mr . Prentice ' s question . ^ n * ' ^ auyot make your * eK heard > -.: ' - : ' ¦ '• f « tt « Si - : } tfr . Prentics--No , Sir > T 1 , 0 " i V- / sr ; f ^ ; "~ we ? SaS ^ a « t 2 i SlS&S ^?^ ' ¥ *«*<» ^ <^» I did ^ ThiDS ^ tii ^ r - f ^ ' epre . ciita-. Scotland : iKSfeS" he ^^ ^ <* ss ^ isi ^ ii ssa-ss

      * ^ pMR ^^ wm ^ mmm ^ Mr , E . G . Manesread the written reoue = t of « er-^ g ^ oiuUmake auU ; subscribe thedeclaratioS gU ^ aWTequired by thevAct . / The demand was MnB ^ me mm ^ proaii 6 awi James Scholeneld ; " > % ^ '; ^ - Mr . condy—^ There isoiie alsn + « s ;^ hoA ^« .

      ms ^^^ m ^^^^ m m e £ ^' ivlilne ^ ha ^ S ° ^/ no declaratipn \ br - ^ I't ^ S ^ ^ ^ - Wni « Greg''•»}• - ' iih Milne ^ -Qn yes , l : fiave . L Mr ; Alderman Kajr—Very well . v . ¦ Mr .: E . CMilnereada second time the demand by ^^^ aS ^^^^ ' ^ ^^^ TheBoroughreeve-Is Mr . Greg herei ready to make aud subscribe the , deelaratloV T ^ ere ^ no

      / Mr- ^ ondy—Then he is no candidate . : ' ' . Mr . Alderman : Kay—Willi -you-proceed , Mr Borpughreevef Ypukiiow the course , ^ ' . - ¦* ly . . K- ; C . Milne next read the demand of the same seven electors as to Sir George Aiurray . and said—Jn pursuance of thk vequenst , Sir George Sray S&JfTf * % ? Paper ^ i gnW by ; hinAo \ he S ^ lowiiig effect Mr . Mine read the paper which comm 8 nced ^ : I , theIlight ; Hou . Sir Georft Wra ^ &c , aud set forth a leasehold estate in ^ t . George ' s JVestminster , and freehold estate in iM ^ pSS U endar , in the couutyof Perth , a plbtpfland S Belgrave Wre , ; &c . It was dated' ' 4 th Septet ben lSBy i'land signed' ^ Geb . Murray . " pt *^?* The BorPuihreeve ^ NoW . Sir ( lortvirA n « tWo - --R «_

      -u ^^^^^^ ^ ^^ , The fibiiou 6 UREl ; vfi : NoWi ceritlemon - > hhs « ^ pntlemeiv who are in iavour of ^ SSi hX thanperhaps five thSd S * ^ 7 "g , ^ thickest on the side of the squ- ^ v . ; ° * ° * TO ^ wood ' s house ^ pS ^ i-iW ^^^ a ^ ¦ 111

      iwstmgs allotted to M- - ^ V ^ t * "" r i -St * ksff ^^^^^^^ . :. are iu favour feiv ^ f ' ^ vour of afthree S uSe ^ Sni ft udfl * Jlis fo " * & JH-m ** t "" Serf -- ^ JWuaced iM $ mm

      Ihe ilorojighreeye annouueed that the liobl w « Wu commence to-morrow rrhuPRrtevw ^ . P ° P would fia l ^^» . Si ? George Murray moved a vote of thanks to the boroug . Wveand constablesfor their couduct o ^ thk oC | Casvon .- ~ -Noone seeondiii ^ it yuuuofconina Mr . J . B ' . Wahklyn called ; out , Will Gpi . Thomp-Boa . -second th , ? . yote of thanks ? [ We believe MV Condy aiudertopt that Ck ) L Thompm , n would ^ Sc £ i TKo Borbughreove said he beliered a better dispoeeior more united class of people did not &ist in ft « WBttia » g » . a ! sgs 5 '

      , , MANCHESTER ; EJiECJlOBT . . ; ? ' ' Thursday Mwnm ^ Sep't . 5 th . i ^ ¦ aere : has . tliis morning beeai a . seeoudi » n ; unation of the . candidates forthe election . ; i'ha Souare was cranaaed ^ with people . The Maior ^ presided Lolpnel Thompsou was not / nominated ; , because he y ^» ot acknowled ge ther jurisdiction . ; of the Ai- 'immense majority of hands was . held up in fa-^^^ Tory caudidato , Six- George Aiurray ; and the :. Whig . iVlayor was put to the paintiil hecaasity of declaring th « shoiy ^ of hands , to ^ bo in . hia favour A pollvwas demauded j ^> nd > vili ; be made tfltmorcow . A ^ ppU > vas going pu to-day in cpus 0 quence . of tho uoniiaafion . of yesterday , at which Sit QebrieAlurraT is liuusiderably aheadi ,

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Sept. 7, 1839, page unpag, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1073/page/1/