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      SOUTH LANCASHIRE DELEGATE MEETING . Tt ; meeting was held in the Chartist Room , Brown , stre- ^ - M ; . nche «' . er , en Sacdsy las :, trhca Lhe fuiiowinc deltgr--6 = ~ *™ pr «* D ' .: — - T , - .- as Kii : ton . Ct&rtizt carpenter ? sa . ? jv-ners . Mangj , g _ J-. p . ter Cameron Chartist pointers Manchester ; I in Sntdiffe , Rochtfale ; Henry Chap ! e . OUtim ; Jam— jia >*> =, Ashioii-in-Lyne ; -Ihoni * . Li- 'ae , Muss-Uj ; i' 2 ^ c Irberwoud , Kitoifii ; John Pu ^ n , C-rpant-- -i' Hsli , 3 Ianchfcstc > r ; John il&sst ^ . Xcwton Eeai : ; El win CluBgh , H ,: Ub w * . J ; — M'Far ine , Silfvr .: ; J \ mes DIxon , insecure * , Manchester ; Hcj-Tfoc- -nd B . U 7 by letter . M r Riiitoa was caliei to tie chair . Tlt ainTi ' H of the previous meeting havir . g b- ; -es res-s ; Bii col finned , the fiAlowing were paid in by the dilrr . teS : — FOR THS EXECUTJTE . £ a . d . f irj .- « i : tcTs and J-.-iners , Manchester u * 0 y ict = rs , Man Chester 0 2 0 ; . chia ' . e ^ ... 0 2 8 £ 0 S 6 X-ZCTTEEHS' rUXD- FOR IRELAND . t " i- 'p * ntfrs and J ^ Lntrs , ALmcher 6 12 f ji-rzters" Ha ! l , tiitto * 0 2 « < .-art 5 t Painters , ditto ... ... 0 0 5 _ - ' ¦ -btoc-nader-Lyne ... ... .... 0 0 6 K ,-cfc 2 aJe ... .. " . ... ... 0 0 5 ¦ i 0 » d .- ... ... 0 0 6 ii . Ithfe " . ... .. 0 0 £ £ 'J 6 0 SGBIH LsJCCaSHIBE 1 . ECTUB . EHS' FOD . C wptnteis' Ball , ilajichester " ... £ 10 0

      21- Fri . Li > ' Eaia that he to instructs ! to bring befcrc t ± r delegates the di&tav . sfaction that prevailed araor ^ si the local lecturers on acco un t cf the manner in "Wbk \ sam * nf fhe places paid them-f .-r t * : eir sfcrvices . two ; ie £ ? iti particular , viz . Xewton Heath and Hollic ? - ^ roo i . The former of these places only gave the lecb --r ninepence , and if it was wet the eosch f-. re "was ash : icg . Tbe Istt-er piles gave them one shwi ^ g and thr = t ; = _ Cc , asd the coach fare was one shil . iE ^ and six - penc- - And they thought that this was not sufficient ; at C-- - bssi to- cjach fare ought to be -paid . The delegate .- ? . om ti ^ ir places were requested to inform tbeir cons : aiiiis of these complaints , i n order that the evi l rnjg- ¦ he riinsiied .

      M : Knight stated , that at a meeting of the South Lai : c :-iiipr JMse&teB , Mr . Riiltoa wa ' s eltcted t-o be a mem -jrof the IXsfencs Fond Gonfrnittte . And that genti - £ . in having resigned / or particular rt-3 sccs , It ¦ wcu' ; there / ore be their duty to elect another in his pbc-. ii- - TlAii . T i > " explained . He beu >? one of the parties who - , ulj have to be defended by that fun-1 , lie therefore c ild not conscientiously reimiji a member of the com : - . t ^ e fcT it s nrii ^ meoieiittM . Pvllix moved and ilr . CjJIEE 0 > seconded the f \<^ vi ' -z motion : — " 1 . iz > ir Richard Hull bs elected member of the Kat . ^^ i Defence Fund Committee , in the place of Mr . Kail . ; , resigned . " Ci . r 5 d nnaEimonslv .

      ; jj - M-Fa 3 . li > "e Etaled that he thought the delegate * tr » 5 tn : onghi to exaaiiae into the balance Ecaet of t :.-: SsecntiTe . He ( Mr . Jl'Farline ) -was placed in rather an aTrkward pjsition , inssmjiuh as Silford had not p ? id anything to th = JEiecative for the last qnarter ; never aeless he considerta it to be his dmy as a delegate to bi . rig the matter before them , for he must say that a grea : -isonnt of dissatisfaction existed amcasit his con-Ktitn-a-5 at present , and they with him thought th 3 t Ecm- f-. ntir espl&natioa -was necessary , than had yet beeD zh-eii . He Mr . M'Farlintj ¦ Wis glad to see one of ti < r EsecntiTe prescc ; , as that gentleman perhaps wot : ! thro * r some light upon thetubject . ilr Leach had come to give all the explanation in his t- . -er , if necessary . 33 ; , - delegate—It appears thst tha plan of <« rgan : zition ? - -- net been attended to by the Executive in the legist aria HivaitmezL

      Mi Ltach scid that ¦ was cot the Expcutive ' s fault Ont .-: " sixty-nine places that they corresponded vrith fort } :: i ^ b out A that Bumberobject ^ d to sending the nav . r- O . dhani csme to an open vote upon the subject : > -d decided that they would not comply with the ¦ wi sht = A the Extcauve in that respect ; also Leicester that tss adding 500 members per "Wetk , did not send the rir . ts of one to the Executives and yet the delegates -f that place could Sad faait-with the secretary for b-- ~ d « Eg that irhieh they theniselTes had neglected to sui-idy hiza ¦ w ith the means of doin ^ . 3 ! r I 5 HEB . WO 0 D , said they had sent the names of all thei- members to ilr . Tiilman . J 1-. L ^ ACa—True ; but ont of 25 , 000 members thsre Was niy 3 . 0 returned . Mr ilFARLiNE raid , that th 3 t- -was not the question ai is = ne . It appeared that there were items in the Balance Sheet which were , in hi 3 opinion , objectionable —of whieh th 3 t concerning pnstage wag oEe ^—and &ccor-i ^ g to Mr . HLil , it would lake twenty-foar letters

      per .. ^ 7-ilr . Railton had known him frequently have to vrrit- i : tj at : i sixty letters per day , 'and Mr . Rankin IBor * - tiar . th-. t . Mr . a-FiEHLlXE said , that they , as delegates , if thej T .. UH 1 ; ba ; tterr officers cVid Eoi do their duty , it ¦ was " v-cir du c . as tbeii cflr . stnuenls . to call upon tbun to dc > o ; snd in hi £ ( Mr . li'FarHne ' 8 ) opinion , the Exe . i . rive had enough to do to attend to the duties of that &a , withoat attending to anything else . iir Leach—Ton eee we are -placed betwixt two fires— one party finding fault that we are not constantly sitt ' r . ^ . and the other blaming na for expending the pec-r ;> money by sitting too often . Bat these charces

      Tre - * : 1 ine--t in taeir proper " quarter , . althongh we do not ^ xaact that jastics which we deserve . So far as he ( ilr . L ^ eb : ¦ w-s peiEonalij concerofed , he ne'ver -was b job " r . ; r . g p ? iUician , and ha tcew that he was not cspatle < A meeting bis antagonist through the columns of & nt *« aiper ; bnt he would challenge trim to meethim ( Mr . l / eschi btfore a public naeetis ? :-the people should b ? tr-jary before which he shouid be tried : ^ and he ( ilr . lr »^ chi wanied to meet Mr HULeither ifc ^ eeds or any uticr town were he ( ilr . Leacb ) was kn » wn , and meet auy charges that might be brought agaiiist him . He ( Mr . Lead . ) considered thai hisnloral character waa imy- --iicd in thts Star cf last Week , and also in that of gatr . r .. aj last , and if he had to walk"barefoot , tbe people -h j uid conderea him or acqaii Him from tiie ' cliarga of B'oral snd -coVltical dishotesty .

      yir M F ^ iLiNE said that the pewers the Rev . "VTm H-. il were such that if not checked , he ( Mr . Hill . Bug ; .: do 3 fr- ^ at deal * f harm t-c the movemsnt . Sir . Da" » is eoiiaidered the eomments in the two last Sia ¦ : < :. > K- severe in the extreme . lir . Pullix—That man ihat wonld not give every other m 1 : 1 tie fame chance of defence as he himself posiri ^ -i , was unworthy of the nance of a man or a democ-ati ! r . IsnESt ^ GOD thought that the only way for them to arrive at proper conclusions was \ o have the BJt .. - -C r * 3-l froHi the Star of Saturday last , and then ilr . Lesoh could explain . M ^ Railto > " , the chairman , then read the article in tfcr Star of Sittird 3 y , K » v . 26 : h , headed " The Execuz : ~ r , ticir balance sheet , and the organisation . "

      > : t . i . EiCH said that Mr- Htil stated tnat the Execnuvtr was a fixed body , sitting in a fixed place . That he ; Mr . L-sch , denied ; it was eo such fix-ri \ x > dj ; and tha » Miijchester was the plsce fir their Eittings ; sna it such , ^ is the ca se , and thut there was uo tnvrT-rg cXr-6-ces , why djd"thcy- not elect the whule of lie mem ' ttrs from ilasGh-.-ster ? Did the people not ksow that when they -elected Morgan Williams that fee resided in Wa ' . es ; arri , in order that be rti iht meet the other members cf tho Executive , it isroBl . i cust £ - ia co ^ ch fare ; and , did they believe when th-. y elects him , that he was to pay that sum ont of his Si-s . per week I They 3 iso knew that Mr . Pniip resided ia Bath , ^ nd it . cost Phiip £ 3 in coacb-fars to attend their first m-eting . » nd the siroe sum to return ; 3 nd did the ptroplc ' exoect

      tun ti- pay that mm out > . f tue thirty shiiiings per week ? D . - - M"Douall was in London wh ^ c elected , and the counaj knew this , aid knowing it they knew that if they must meet their traveilins expences must be paid . Mr . Lr ^ i ch then said he woaid pui them in possession Of a fact or two that they did not know . The Ex&eutiTe Lid known cf this plot for some time . ilr . Hill is a councillor of HuiL In the month , of July las : the Hulj Chartists were about to pass the Balance Sheet , Whea Mr Hill entered the ro * . m and pui a stop to it . And a friend that was present at-that meeting wrote to Campbell stating that there was a pltt hatching atainst the members of the Executive , of which he would receive the irst attack in a short time . In Leeds also there was a conspiracy of the same ' nature . A meeting of ten or a dc * sn men tcok place , where they ithe

      members of the Executive i were aisposed of and a new one formed . A person present at tiiat meeting wrote to him , ; Mr . Leach- eiving him information of their whole transactions , and also the names of the men who 'Were i # form the aew Executive ^ Their names were Cooper , "White , Harney , B&irstow , and SkeviBgton ; bo being in possession of those facts this is only what \ re expected . We received MTeral invitationa ( o go to Birmingham ; we w » nt " and remained tiers « ight days . IVe drew op the National Petition there and issued two or three addreues to the comntry . We also attended » eTen or eight public nreeting *—paid one * too—and left them not lea than £ 30 in hand . We stopped altogether at an inn , and George White told

      ms that the comncil wonld pay for our board ! bnt the touncil cam « to a Tote that ai we bad the public funds at our disp » sal , they would not giTB n * a farthing George White came and told bj this is the morning ; we had so money with oi , andin a strange place . This ire teld White , and lie went to the Council ; but it was to bo use ; the consequence was that two ol the members of the Executive h » d to pledge their watches to raise coney t « get home . They then told the landlord their situation , sad gave him whftt m ^ ney they had , and bad to send him the remainder when they got tome . " He , Mr . Leach , "had bad » evera . invitations to go to Enll , and when be "was going to London , he thought that be would call at a few" places in order to

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      m .-ke the exp . nce lew , and he wouH g < - « round by Hull . He di . i so , and when he arrived there ho found himself 1 'j * ininua of the rum he had when he started froHi home . At Hall they gave him nothing at all , and if he had not bad money with h : m he would have been obliged to come back home . The last week but one he went to Leeds , and it cogt him s-v . » n fhillings to ride in the third elass from Manchester to th-iro , and be paid six frriu Leeds to Roch-¦ ' ¦ Ae . where he should have lectured , but being very ill he V . rCitd off , and paid one shilling to ride home / that was 14 s . ; he was away three days , and it cost him 7 s . for meat and lodgings , that wss ^ li : they gave him 10 s and he returned borne at the three days' end with Us . Jess than be had when he started , for his wife \ aA r . x children ; and then must be called a

      jobbing pc > ii ; itisn . When I was at Leeds I had some conversation with Mr . Hill coicrrning a man hi tho movemerit , whose wife lives cot far from this place , and he is ieading a common prostitute about the country with him ; lr . Hill asked me whas was to be done ? I said drire him from the ranks , ilr . Hili thought it would ' not b-advisable to do so , as in a short time a grtat : number of ihe advocates would be in prisen , and the ¦ move ; ii = nt wonld want all the as = isisi ) C > - that could be £ Jt . I thought that wss the very reason that we should : drive sneh sc » mps as bim from amongst us . When , ' tie h . nest friends of the people were locked np—the ; grtiter the necessity of the few that remained at lari ; e j being unimpeachable in their moral character . But j Mr . Hill thought if it could be ktpt quiet it would be ! better . I said that that was impossible , as -MX different districts had already exnoscd him—and yet at the very

      time that he was t 3 ~ iking to me thus he hid an article wrot < - & . damn four of us . But this is a deadly biow at ' D .-. M -Donall—it is iutended to damn him—but it shall i no : ; De ; we it shall h 3 ve its desired effect , I will suffer : to hivt my head cut off upon a block . I wish the j Di > ctor was here , he would not need uiy puny defence ; j but knowing that he is worthy of it . I will not snflvr ! him to be i . rjnred when he has not the chance of dei fending himself . I will now explain the Doctor ' s ten ; shillings per week . We drafted him to London to I organrze the trades , and knowing that it was more i expensive dining in London than here , we thought the j trrra ten Bhillings would not be too much ; but I am not i going to defend this act of tbe Executive , but tbis I ! will say , it was done with thfl best of motives—and I deny the assertion of Hill that it was a piece of poli-I tica ! joM-ins .

      > ir . Pcllin wished to ask Mr . Leach a question concerciDU the payment of the members of the Executive—did they , the in&mbers of the Executive , receive their pay each week sitting or not ? Mr . Leach—No . Mr . IsHtRWooD conld like toknevsr something about the expecers cf 5 Ir . Bairstaw going to see Mb wife when she ¦ was sick . Mr . Leach—Mr . Biirstowwas in Manchester attending the sittings of the Executive , when he ( Mr . Leach , ) received a letter from Bairstow ' s fatber-in-law , with one enclosed for him . He came and Ehevred me the letter containing the intelligence of his wife ' s sickness . He ( Mr . Leach ) lent him a sovereign to Btart off with . Now Bairst iw had to go to Bristol , and it was on his way to call at Loughborongh to see his wife . The extra expence wr . u ' . d be very trifling . Mr . Cameron—Mr . Hill say 3 something about Bsirstow ' s expences to the Conference .

      Mr . Leach in answer to this said , that it would be in their recollection that tbe Executive was to meet that Conference , and & . « Mr . Bairstow had to attend as a member of the Executive , the people of that locality thought that he could represent them in the Conference . So that they would see that Mr . Baitgtow attended as a member of the Executive , ar . d not as a delegate to the Conference . An « i as they were on the Conference question , he might as well state that the vote given to the Executive was given without any conditions being attached thereto ; and Mr . Cooper was the man who proposed it . This was corroborated by Mr . Railton and Mr- M ; . ssey . Mr . Jsberttood said as far as be was concerned , he was satisltd with the explanation given by Mr . Leach , bnt he thought that they could not come to a vote upon the ques : ion until they had taken the opinion of their constituents upon it

      llr . P * lli > " thought that they could go as far with the question , as th-jy were individually concerned , and come to a vote to that effect Mr . M'Fae . li > -e was satisfied with Mr . Leach ' s erpJssatioo , but at the ssme time he unditTStooCL that gentleman only to be vindicating his own character , and not the whole ef the acts of the Executive ; and although Mr . Campbell was one of their members , there was in his ( Mr . M'Farline ' s ) opinion great cause for dissatisfaction at the manner in which Mr . Campbell had conducted the business of the association as their secretary . He therefore thonght that it would be much better not » o coma to a vots , but let the matter rest until tbe next delegate meeting , for if they came to a vote in Mr . Le 3 ch ' s case , and not in that of the other members of the Executive , it would be tantamount to clearing him and condemning the others . M R Lea CH—We are appealing through the Star .

      Mr . Pulli . n could like to give his candid opinion He had known Mr . Lsach for many years , and had always found him to be a man of bt € iling wotih and strict integr ty , Mr . MaSSEt was of opinion that as they bad taken np the subject , and had heard Mr . Leach ' s explanation , they ought to come to a vote upon the matter , so far as the Seuth Lancashire delegates were concerned . Mr . Ishebwood begged to S 3 y , tbat he differed with the last speaker , and thought it advisable that the delegates should take what they had back to those that staii theni there , and let them decide . Moved by Mr . MFarline , and sacondei l > y Mr . Isherwood , — '' That eacb delegate at his return lay before his constitntnts the information that be has received at this meeting , and come prepared to the text delegate meeting to give their decision upon this matter . ' * Carried unanimously .

      Moved by Mr . Isberwood , and seconded by Mr . Simpson , " That Mr . Railton do provide a minute and accompt book far the South Lancashire delegates . " Carried . Mr . M-5 " arliae moved and Mr . Lange seconded , — u That Mr . Dixon be secretary until the next meeting . " The meeting was then adjourned until that day four weeks , at ten o clock in the forenoon .

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      MANCHESTER . Carpenters' Hall . —Two lectures were delivered in the above Hall on Sunday last ; in the afternoon , Mr . J . ilurrey was called to the chair , who opened the meeting with a few remarks npon the present position of the Chartist movement , and introduced Mr . C . D : > yle to the meeting . Mr . C . Df ? jle delivered an intfertssting and instructive leetuj-e and was repeatedly cheered by tbe audience . In the evening , on the motion of Mr . Knight , Mr . Murrey was again caUed to preside . Mr . Murrey thanked the meeting for the honour they had conferred upon him by calling him to preside over bo large and respectable a meeting of his fellow townsmen as the present , at the same time he would much rather some one more competent than himself had been called to fill the chair . But there was one observation which he would

      make , and that was , that to be a chairman of a Chartist meeting was to have a sinecure office , with this exception , there was no pension attached to it Without taking up any more of their time he would introduce their old friend , Mr . James Leach . Mr . Leach rose amid the plaudits of the vast assembly , and said that he supposed they weTe in high spirits and full of glee aJ hearing the new 3 of peace 'with China , and in the expectation of being made rich out of the money tbit we were to have from that inoffensive people , for giving over murdering them ; and , according to tbe press , to be made doubly rich by an increase of our trade with that country . The papers were now teeming with oar glorious victories over a people that never knew how t » fisht , a people that were not in possession of such instruments of torture and destruction as

      we are . Mr . Leach then read some extracts from Hobson ' s Poor Jean ' s Companion , which showed what the game of war had cost the people of this country , and also showed up from the same source the fallacy of the people ever being benefitted by the extension of commerce . Mr . Leach delivered an instructive and interesting lecture , at the conclusion of which he called the attention of the meeting to the articles that had appeared in rhe papers , by saying tfcat doubtless they had read the articles in the Str , of tbe last snd the present week concerning the Executive . He , -with the othei members of that body , were branded as political jobbers . He iMr . Leachi was sure that those that knew him wonld at least give him credit for not being -one "who ever made a jobbin ; concern of the people ' s cau > e- But the sum and substance of this

      attack upon the Executive was a deadly thrust at the political character of Dr . M'Douall - , but . if the Doctor was here , be would not requir * his ( Mr . Leach ' s ) defence , for he couid defend himself ; but it was too bad to attack him when he was in exile for the people ' s cause , and he hoped that the working men of England would not say a word npon the matter nntil he was here to defend htmself , and it wonld not be long before he was amongst them again for that parpose , and until that time he hoped they would be silent The Doctor deserved this at the bands of tbe people , for wham he had suffered so much . He ( Mr . Leachi was well acquainted with Dr . M'Donall , both publicly and privately , and there waa not a more honest maa in existence . He ( Mr . Leach ) knew him when he kept as good a horse as any man in Lancashire , and he had known him without sixpence in his poeket or a coat to his back . He bad known bim wben be had not a

      dinner for himself or bii wif « and cbild , and he wer found bim tbe same undaunted advocate of tbe People's rights . Ai for myself and tbe charge of political jobbing , I will defend myself in the proper tiArteJ . Not that I consider myself competent to write an artiel * in a newspaper , but I will challenge my c&limnUtor to meet me before tbe people , if I travel irltkomt shoes to Leeds for tbat purpose . . Three jean ago be ( Mr . Leach ; worktd in a factory not more than three stones throw from tbe place whera he stood . At that time he and his family were jetting on an average fifty shillings per week , and he lost tbat situation for daring to expose tbe Factory System in that very room . It was not for himself thst he was then working , bnt for those poor creatures that were working for six and ^ sevei ; shillings per week . Mr . Ltaeh then said , there was a great deal of noise abont the shop that he kept It never w » 5 a pound of bis money tbat put him in tbat

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      shop ; no , it wu bla friends who gave bim a rnnMl sum to start with , and other * lent bim tbe money ; some of which he bad paid back , and some he had yut to pay . It was not from what be bad made oat of tho CbartUt agitation that be commenced business . Others Mid tbat be get tbe money out of tbe dirty Whig * , aud more , that it came from bribe * from the Tories . He I Mr . Leach ) thought it bad enough to find tbe whole of the Whig an « l Tory press giving unfair reports , nntl bounding tbe Government upon them ; but when their own friends adopted tbe same line of policy , he thought it was too bad . Mr . Leach then said , that there was not a town in tbe county bnt ho had viait-d ; and the people would bear him out in the statement be was goivg to make . When they gave him money be gave thtrn it back , and ratber than pat them to tbe expt-nce of finding loding * . be walked home in tbe wet . Mr . Leach then said , his conduct was before them , and be

      -would leave it with them to judge bow far . be was deserving of the title of a paltry politician . He hoped that tbe people would avoid dissensions and bickerings tbat are tearing us asunder ; by doing so they carry terror into tbe enemies camp . If , on tbe other hand , they allowed themselves to be split up into sections they would become an easy prey to their oppressors , whose motto was divide and conquer . Mr . Leach , on retiring , was loudly cheered . Mr . Knight moved , and Dr . Hnlley seconded , the ' following resolntion : — " That this meeting returns their thanks to Mr . Lcich for the very able lecture he has delivered , and fcxptnsss confidence in him as an honest politician . " C \ rried unanimously amid thundering cheers . Dr . Hulloy moved , acd was seconded by two or three voices in the body of the hall— " That the thanks and confidence of this meeting be given to Dr . M'Douall , " which being put from the chair was carried nem . con ., followed by repeated rounds of applause .

      HOLLINWOOD . — On Sunday evening last the association roam , Ralph Green , was densely crowded by a respectable audience to hear a lecture from Mr . Christopher . Doyle , of Manchester . Before the lecturer arrived Mr . Thomas Cooper ' s letters concerning the unfortunate victim Eilis were read from the Star , which created feelings of indignation in the breasts of those present , at tbe cruel and unjust sentence of this victim of cla » s mad 6 laws . —Mr . D » yle gave an able and interesting lecture on "the present existing distress , the cause of that distress , and the remedy . " He drew an affecting picture of tbe distress now ao prevalent among the wealth-producing class of this country , showed in a clear and convincing manner , that the cause of that distress was ciass-legislation , and concluded by calling upon his hearers to agitate for the Charter as the only remedy for national grievances . Tbe lecturer was loudly cheered throughout bis address , and gave great satisfaction . A vote of thanks was given to the lecturer , and the meeting separated ,

      CARLIST . E . —On Sunday evening last , tbe members of the Carlisle Debating Society held their usual woekly meeting at their rotm , No . 6 , Johv .-street . Caldewgate , when , in tha absence of other business the leading articles of the Northern Slar , of Saturday last , were road over , and commented upon . On Sunday evening next , a very animated di ^ ussion is i xpected to take place on the very important question , ' are mankind progressing towards a happier state of human existence ? " Any person not being a member may attend one night gratis , if introduced by a member , or by paying a small subscription , he may attend each evening . This society has

      been got up and established for tbe mutual benefit and instruction of its members , and those who may think proper to attend . Several valuable works have already been presented to the &oclety , consisting of the tentire works of Colonel Perronet Thompson , in six volumes The report of the Poor Law Commissioners , " on the sanitary condition of the working classes . ' ' The large volumes of reports and evidence , " on persons engaged in mines , " and some other works , besides the Northern Star , and some other newspapers . The room is open every Sunday for the accommodation of the mtmbeTSj Any works on politics or genersl literature , or newspapers will be thankfully received by the members .

      Case of Mr . Arthur . —It appears that , though this gentleman escaped when examined before the magistrates of Manchester , in consequence of the miscreant Griffin not being able to identify him ; yet his name was ineluded in the "True Bill '' fonnd by the , # rand Jury at Liverpool , during the sitting of the special commission there ; so that a bench warrant was Issued for his apprehension , theuah not put into execution , in consequence of the cases beiDg removed to tbe Court of Queen ' s Bench . Mr . Arthur , amtious to give himself up , wrote to Mr . Maule , solicitor to the crown , espressina : his determination to give himself np , or procure sufficient end satisfactory bail for his appearance . In

      answer to this application , a letter was sent by Messrs . Gregory and Sons , to Mr . George Gill Mounsey , late mayor of the borough , to the efftct that a bench wariant was inclosed for Mr . Arthur's apprehension , but if an appearance was immediately put in for him by his clerk in London , the bail would be waived altogether . This has all been complied with , so that Mr . Arthur is now at liberty uLtil the assizes , when we fear not , should be called upon , that be will , with alL others involved in the aame charge , be honourably acquitted : for we cmnot conceive that a jury of virtuous , honest men , can possibly find men guilty on . such paltry evidence .

      The General Defence Fund . —We understand that many and great exertions have been made heta and by tbe adjoining districts to aid in this necessary and laudable undertaking ; and we have no doubt , if these exertions are continued , tbat Carlisle and neighbourhood , will stand , as it has hitherto done , proudly pre-eminent in the good work . While we make these observations , we would respectfully suggest to the present Cooucil of tbe Chartist Association , the necessity of still further extending their labours ; for we know of many persons who are good Chattists at heart , though they do not come forward at public meetings , who are not only willing , but most anxious to assist in a pecuniary point of view , in supporting thoBe persons who are at present involved in prosecutions for the part

      they have taken in endeavouring to forward the cause of the working classes of this country . Let collectors be appointed for each district . of the town , to call upon the shopkeepers and higher classes , who are at all favourable to tbe canBe , and we have no doubt but a very considerable Bum might speedily be raised . Sixpence or a shilling is less te a middle class man than a penny to a poor hand-loom weaver . Remember that on a former occasion , about twelve persons collected upwards of twenty pounds amongst this very same class to whom we have been alluding , in ONE DAT . Let the collectors thus appointed be sober , discreet , and well-behaved persons , who are generally respected , and we have no fear of a much larger sHtn being secured in this way in one day , than wouid be otherwise procured br the ordinary means in three months .

      LONDON . —Metropolitan Deleoate Meeti >' G . —This meeting was beid on Sunday afternoon , at 5 b , Old Bailey , Mr . J . Humphries in the chair . Credentials were received from Mr . J . Humphries , from Sonierstown ; Mr . M Frederick , from the shoemakers , Golden-lane ; Mr . White , from the Flora Tavern , Islington ; and from Mr . Hoilges , from Croydon ; -Mr . Dron reported from the defence fund committee regarding the caBe of Mr . Bentool . Mr . Wheeler moved" That the delegate meeting recommend Mr . Bentoot as a proper person to be assisted st his forthcoming trial , and that his case be represe ted to the General Treasurer . " Mr . Simpson seconded the motion and explains the peculiar circumstances connected with the case , and the treacherous part which a Bhopraate of the prisoner and his wife had acted in delivering him up to Mr .

      Anderson , the constable of Macclesfield , and the peculation of that officer in causing this -woman to give him a receipt for a greater amount of blood-money than- be had paid for betraying the abode of the above named victim . Mr . Dron reported from the Observation Committee regarding the conduct of an advocate of Chartism in the metropolis , and his credentials as a lecturer were referred for discussion until the ensuing Sunday . Two shillings and sixpence was receivedfrom the Carpenter ' s Arms , one shilling from the Three Doves for the delegate meeting ; Messrs . Martin aud Knifiht reported regarding the conduct of certain parties in Finsbury in reference to tbe Conference ; various reports were also received from other localities and from some members of the committee meeting in Jobn-str&et , Adelphi . Mr . Lucas moved and Mr . Simpson seconded

      an address calling upon the country in general and the metropolis in particular to support the Evening Star . Mr . Cuffiiy moved and Mr . Wheeler seconded an amendment referring the address to a committee for revision !; the orig inal motion was withdrawn , and Messrs . Wheeler , Lucas , and Cuffay appointed for that purpose . Mi . Dron was elected a member of . the Finance Committee , in place of Mr . Naele resigned s and Messrs . Jones and Rose were elected on the Observation Committee . Mr . Cuffay moved and Mr . Mudge seconded the following resolution : — " That each delegate immedately call upon the locality he represents to instruct the Hib-Stcretary to nominate general councilmen to the National Charter Association , and transmit their names to the Xorlheni Slar forthwith . The meeting then adjourned .

      Montpelier Tavern . —From the statement of accounts of the tea parties which have been held at tttis place , it appears that at the first , the receipts ( including 7 s , not paid ) were £ 10 53 . 6 d ., the expenses £ 10 Is . 6 d ., and the net profits 4 s . At tbe second party the receipts ( including £ 1 16 s . 8 d . not paid ) were £ 10 7 s . 6 d ., the expenses £ 9 15 s . 2 d . and the profits 12 a . 4 d . We have already stated tbat we have not room for the full details of these affairs ; we should requires dally Star were we to insert all we receive ; we theiefore leave all out The subscribers must satisfy themselves from the treasurer . Co . \ yEHE . NCB Committee . —This committee assembled on Friday evening , in John-street , Adelphi , Mr . Maynard in the chair . After the minutes bad been

      read and confirmed , Mr . Eit resigned and explained the reasons which induced him to it Mr . Neesom also resigned , stating his reason to be the refusal of the committee to recommend that tbe meeting for election of delegate * should be simultaneous , which subject had never been brought before the committee . Mr . Fussell stated that he bad been most unfairly dealt with by the committee of which Mr . Elt was a member , and had been refused admission as a member on the old and oft disproved charge ef his being a spy . Mr . Watts reported that ont of nearly seventy members of the committee got up by the seccder * in Finsbury , only five were members of the Natiooai Charter Association . The Commitee for Finsbury were then instructed to proceed in a similar manner , as though counter committees bad not been

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      formed . Reports were received from tho other boroughs , and Mr . Iitdluy and Mr . Dron moved- . , and aecoruitd a resolution , recommending candidates of the various sections of Reformer * being nominated , that each partieilar opinion might be fairly represented . After some other business , the meeting adjourned until Sunday morning , where after reports bad been received , the following resolutions were carried , having previously elicited considerable discussion , * . * That it is the opinion of this committee that all parties of Reformers should be fully and fairly represented at the forthcoming Conferenco ; we , therefore , recommend the City and

      Borough Committees to give every facility and assistance to candidates of all parties . " "That this Committee reosinmend to the Borough and Cisy Committees to promote arrangements to ensure tbe representation of the different- sections of : reforms in the proportion of sixteen to the National Chatter Association , six to the Metropolitan Parliamentary . . Reform or Complete Suffrage Association , and six to the National Association , " " That this Committee recommend the local committees to elect the ; delegates atfrjimultaneous meetings . " The meeting then instructed its various members to form the local committees by tke ensuing Wednesday , at latest , and adjourned until Friday evening .

      Gold Beaters' Arms , Somers' Tow . n . —Mr . Sswell lectured here on Sunday evening to a good audience . A ' discussion ensued , in , which Messrs . Fusseil , MaTtin , D-ivoc , Ridley , and others , took part ; Several names wtre enrolled . Ma . Gas Mags ' leutured on Sunday evening , at the Clock House , Leicester £ < juare , to a crowded audience , and was much applauded . Mr . Skelton nlso eloquently addressed the meeting ..- ' Mr . Cuffay reported from the delegate meeting regarding the necessity of attendant ; to the organization , and ' . electing a General Council , Mr . Wheeler explained the orgaii'istion in reference to

      the busiuess ef the evening , and , after some 'little conversation , Mr . Hawkins was unanimously elected secretary to the Chartists meeting at the above bouse , in connection with tho Ladies' shoemakers , ' :-ineeting previouslyat Foley-piace . Thirteen individuals wcreelected as a Jtoal committee , and were nominated by the Secretary as General Councilmen . Mr . Shackleton was nominated as treasurer ; and Messrs . Christopher , Skelton , and Shacklbton were elected as delegates to the Metropolitan delegate . meeting . Considerable other local business was ttansacted , and a vote of thanks given to Mr . Gamraasre .

      MB , Farrer lectured on Sunday even-fig to a full house , at 55 , Old Bailey . A lengthened discussion ensued . ALEXANDRIA . —A meeting of the members of the Vnle of Leven Universal Suffrage Association -was held in the Democratic Seminary on Saturday , Nov . 19 th , Mr . Montgomrie in . the chair . The following were elected on the new committee : —Mr . Alexander M K « an , chairman ; Mr . Al'Infyre , vice-chairman ; Mr . James M Intyre , secretary ; to Vhoni all communication must be sent . ; ¦ ' Vale of Leven . —Lecturers wishing to visit this p !; ice must communicate at the least eight days with their address , otherwise their ' services ' will ' -not be accepted . Letters addressed to Mr . Q-eorge Ferguson , Alexandria , by Dumbarton .

      KIN'GSWOOO , near BRrsTOL . ^ -At our u ^ ual weekly meeting , the following resolutions were unanimously adopted : —•• That this meetin ? expresses its unqualified disgust at the conduct of Lord Abinger , at his having availed himself of bis occupancy of the bench of justice to give expressions to sentiments altogether ixrevelant to the matter in band , and totally at variance with the spirit of impartiality which ous ? ht to characterise the address of the Judge , and this meeting also expresses its contempt of the ignorance of the intelligence of the times exhibited m Lord Abinger ' s address , which has so universally received the . reprobation of every lover of justice . " Ten shillings have been subscribed for aha victim . " .

      ' DEVONPORT —Dear Sir , —In looking at your address to ' the readers of the Star , which wo carefully perused , we cannot but admire your straightforward manner in all fyour leading articles which the Star furnishes from time to time , and your readiness to expose any new move or traitors to the cause that may in any way attempt to destroy or curtail any one of the points of the People ' s Charter . -The ' following . vote of confidence was passed unanimously , " That while the ReY . Wm . Hill , Editor ot the Slar , continues to exert himself by his writings , as a public journalist , in the same way and manner he has hitherto done , be is entitled to the warmest confidence and support of the Chartists of D ^ vonport , bearing in mind that we are not admirer * of any man ' s person but principles , and directly be-deviates from the straight-forward path , so shall we withdraw from him our confidence and support ; we therefore accord him a vote of confidence and support "—A . CuMMrNGS , Secretary .

      SHEFFIELD . ELECTION OF DELEGATES TO THE NATIONAL : CONFERENCE . A meeting was held on Thursday last , in Paradisesquare , for tbe election of delegates to the National Conference , summoned to assemble in Birmingham on the 27 th of December next . A requisition was presented to the Master Cutler last Friday , requesting bim to call tho meeting , tmd tUnt functionary declining to do so , the requisitionists proceeded to call the meeting themselves . Placards , of which the following is a copy , were extensively poBted on Saturday evening * announcing the meeting .

      TO THE MASTER CUTLER . Sir , — "We , the undersigned inhabitant householders of Sheffield do request you to convene a public meeting of the inhabitants of the borough at an early day , for the purpose of electing delegates to a Conference called by the Councilof the Complete Suffrage Union , to be held in Birmingham on tbe 27 th of December next , to prepare a bill to be submitted to the legislature , env bodying the principles and necessary details of a full , free , and fair representation of the people in the Commons House of Parliament ; and to < determine who shall be requested to introduce such bill into the House of Commons : and , also , to dispose of other business intended to be submitted to the consideration of such Conference . ' ( Here followed the names of twenty-one householders . ) ,-

      " The Master Cutler having declined to call a meeting , —We the requisitionists do hereby summon such a public meeting to be holden in . Paradise-square , on Thursday next , November 24 th , at itwelve o ' clock at noon . ¦• ... ¦ '• "Sheffield , Nov . 19 , 1842 . " ¦ . . — ¦ It will be seen by tiie above tbat not the least party tinge was given to the meeting , and that every instruction of the Complete Suffrage ) Council was strictly complied with in the calling of the meetiug . The hour was that at which a similar meeting had previously been held at Birmingham : the place of meeting , calculated as it is to hold above twenty thousand : persons couid

      not be packed ; above four ( nearly nve ) days cle . ai notice of the . meeting-was ' giyen . ' -all was done open and above-board ; yet with characteristic modesty the "Complete Suffragists" decided at their meeting on Tuesday evening , to have nothing to do with the proceed inga , because forsooth they \ the wiseacres ) had not been consulted previous to the calling of the meeting ; further they had the impudence to issue and post round the town , bills informing the people that any delegates that might be elected , would not represent "their interests and opinons ! " For the edification of our readers we g ive the following copy ef the said notice : —

      COMPLETE SUFFRAGE . The Sheffield Complete Suffrage Union , beg to inform the public they have taken no part in calling the public meeting to be held in . Paradise-square , to-morrow ( Thursday ) , and that they do not intend to take any part in its proceedings , Any person or persons elected at that meeting , for any purpose whatever , will not be considered by them as representing their interests and opinions . By order of the ¦ Union , H . G . Rhodes , Chairman . Assembly Rooms , Nov . 21 , 1842 . Of course the requisitionists who had summoned the meeting , treated the above precious document with the contempt it and its authors deserved , and at the hour stated in the placard'the proceedings commenced by Mr . Geo . Wright , a working man , one of the requisitionista , being , on the motion of Mr . Harney , seconded by Mr . Dyson , unanimously elected to the chair .

      Tbe Chaianian read the requisition calling- the meeting , antl the object and business for which the Conference was convened ; and after a few remarks , called on Mr . Evinson to move tne following resolution : — " That in compliance with the address of the Complete Suffrage . Union , colling a Conference to be held at Birmingham ' oil the 27 th of December , 1842 , we do hereby elect four delegates to represent tho town of Sheffield in the said forthcoming Conference . " Mr . Pifce seconded the resolution , which was adopted unanimously . Mr . Edwin Gill , seconded by Mr . Hoole , moved the next resolution , which was also unanimously adopted . Form of Election . —The candidates shall be separately nominated and seconded . Tbe Chairman , after each nomination , shall inquire whether there be any other candidate .

      When all the candidates have been nominated , the names shall be taken from a bat , and in the order they are taken out , shall be put to the meeting . The candidates who are rejected shill be struck off the list . - : " ¦¦¦ ¦ . ¦ ¦ ¦ "' . ¦ ¦ ¦/ . " ' / ¦ ¦ "'¦ : ¦ ¦ ' ; ' : The Chairman shall repeat the same process of putting tbe names until only four delegates remain upon tbe list , who shall be forthwith declared duly elected . . Mr Harney , seconded by Mr . Hoole , ( nominated R . Abbott , Esq . ' Mr . Bvinaon , seconded by Mr . Moorhouae , nominated Mr . W . Beesley . Mr . Edwin Gill , seconded by Mr . Pike , nominated Mr . G . J . Harney . Mr . Dyson , seconded by Mr . Clayton , nominated Ml S . Parkes .

      The Chairman then asked three times whether any other person had any candidate to propose . No other person being proposed , the chairman said there was v opposition to the return of tbe four persons wto tttd

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      boen nominated ; but to prevent tbe possibility of objection ,-be ' . ' would now proceed to take the votes of the meeting , in the sime way that their votes would ha / e been taken had there been any opposition to the persons who had been nominated . ¦ : : ¦ , ¦' - _ . The names of the four candidates were then put into a hat , and drawn in the following order : —1 . Samuel Parkes ; 2 . Richard Abbott ; 3 . George J . Harney ; 4 . Wtu . Beesley . The names were put separately , a show of hands taken for and against each candidate , and each was unanimously elected . The Chairman said , I declare that Samuel Parkes , Richard Abbott , George Julian Harney . and William Beesley , are duly elected to represent Sheffield in the National Conference ,

      The several delegates then addressed the meeting , A vote of thanks , " moved by Mr . Harney , seconded by Mr . John West , waa given to the Chairman for his excellent and impartial ' conduct . The proceedings closed with three glorious cheers for the Charter and Ne Surrender . We have done our duty here in electing delegates , as the follewirig—the men of our choice—will show : — Richard Abbott , Esq ., elector , member of the National Charter Association . Mr . Samuel Parkes , non-eleotor , ditto . Mr . George Julian Harney , ditto , ditto . Mr . William Beesley , ditto , ditto . T ~ ive—Fiv < t la Chartc !

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      NOMINATIONS FOR THE GENERAL COUNCIL . STAR COFFEE HOUSE , UNION STREET , BORO ' . Mr . Samuel Pcarce , lamp-lighter , * 7 , Frier ' sstreet . Mr . Jimea Lonsdale , Coal -sack-maker , 52 , Gravel' : lane . Mr . Alfred Andrews , baker , 23 , Great GuUdford . street . . * Mr . George Waljrar , Coffee shop keeper , 76 , Unionv street , sub-treasurer . Mr . John Cooper , Engineer , 7 , Janies's-placev Barmondsey , sub-secretary .

      CLOCK HOUSE , SHOEMAKER ' S , CASTLE ST . LEICESTER '¦ ... '¦ SljUAKE . - i Mr . J . Gordon , 3 . Sherrard-courf , Shoemaker . Mr . E . Pearce , 2 , O ^ le-street , Foley-placf , Shoemaker . Mr . Christopher , 1 , GeoTge-strcet , Foley-place , Shoemaker . Mr . J . Pearce . 5 , Foley-street , Shoemaker . Mr . Rogers , 24 , Crown-street , Haymarket , Shoemaker . Mr . Debcll , 31 , Marshall-street , Shoe-makar . Mr . Badhain , 16 , Silver-street , Golden-square , Shoemake ? . Mr . Skqjton , 12 , Cbandos-street , Shoemaker . Mr . Osborne , 1 , Pultenoy-court , Shoe-maker . Mr . Reynolds , 3 , Charlton-sireet , Shoemaker . Mr . Sauhdors , 19 . Tottenham-street , Mr . Shackleton , 2 , Pickering-place , sub-treasurer , Mr . HawMns , Castle-street , sub-secretary .

      | SOUTHWARK BRIDGE ROAD . Mr . James ; Jenkinson , hatter , Southwark Bridge Road . l Mr . Georgo Taylor , do . 13 , Richmond Terracei East-street , Wai worth . Mr . Henry Jones , do . 2 , Southampton-street , Camberwell . Mr . Thomas Lockett , do . 10 , Robart-street , New Cut . ¦ : ¦ ¦ Mr . Isaac Kolsey , do . 13 , Mmfco-sfcreefc , Long-lane .

      Mr . James ' . Morgan , do . S , Wellington-street . . Mr . Roger Dodgson , do . Southwark Bridge Road . Mr . John Kelsey , do . 5 , Maine Crescent , Bermondsev . ¦ ..- . ¦' Mr . Mathew Ratcliffo , do . 5 , Mount-street , Walworth . " . Mr . Mark Amos , do . 177 , Long-lane , Bermondsey . Mr . John . Nancollis , do . 37 , Great Suffolk-street , Borough , sub-Treasurer . Mr . Robert Fiiut , do , 11 , Castle-street , Borough , sub-Secretary .

      DUKINKIELD . Mr . Lewis Buckley , weaver , Wharf-3 tree 6 . Mr . John Scofieldj carder . Queen-street . Mr . John Garside , rover , George-street . Mr . William Cook , calico-printer , Town-lane . Mr . Robert Simkinson , spinner , George-street . Mr . Jame 3 Jockett , shoemaker . Mr . Thomas Naylor , dresser , sub-Secretary . Mr . Thomas Broadbent , spinner , sub-Secretary

      TEETOTAL CHARTISTS , LAMBETH . Mr . John Fowler , baker , 103 , Broad wall . Mr . Jeremiah Lee , slate-maker . White Horse street . Mr . William Knight , schoolmaster , 3 , Webber street . Mr .-Manuel Ashwood , carpenter , 40 , Broadwalo . Mr . John Lockett , hatter , 53 , Tower-street . Mr . Joseph Vivian , carpenter , 34 , Commercialroad . Mr . George Simms , bookbinder , S 3 , Waterlcfo road . sub-Secretary , i .

      WIGAN . Mr . John Heafcon , weaver , Hardybuits . Mr . Silvester Bootle , do . do . . : . ¦ Mr . James Murray , do . Brown-street- . Mr . John Major , do . Spring GardenB . Mr . Connor , do . Wigan-laue . . Mr . William Paul , cabinet maker , Walgate . Mr . Robert Hart , shoemaker , do . Mr . Joseph Howard , painter , do . Mr . Edward Leach , Book-keeper , Rodney-street . Mr . Thomas Heaton , weaver , Hardybutts , sub Treasurer . Mr . James Smalley , tailor , Hardybutts , sub-Seere tary .

      HULL Rev . William Hill . Mr . George Barker , fitter , Jessamine Cottage , English-street . Mr , William Padgett , joiner , Pullan ' a Buildings , Spencer-street . iVlr . William F . Cheeseman , joiner , Edgar-street . Mr . John Haifield , turner , Edgar-street . Mr , John Mayman , joiner , English-street . Mr . George Walls , tailor , Cook ' s Buildings . Mr . William Webster , cabinet-maker , New George street . Mr . Edward Hunter , reporter , Good ' 3 Place , Osborne-strcet-Mr . Henry Westoby , plane-maker , James ' 6 Place , Mas 6 n-street . . Mr . Roger Pinder , ^ Charti ? tiBlacking and Beverage Manufacturer , Edward ' s Place , Edward ' sstreet , sub-Treasurer . Mr . J . Holiday , 10 , Owen-square , New Georgestreet , sub-Secretary . - :

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      CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE HULL CHARTISTS AND THE HULL CORN LAW LEAGUE .

      TO THE CHARTIST COUNCIL . Gentlemen , —Yours of the 7 th arrived last night ; and X ¦ best to observe that you sadly mistake the nature of your public duty , if you imagine that it justifies your neglect of that courtesy , which is recegniaed in all civilizad intercourse . With this remark , I shall dismiss all your il-reliiVant matter and . scurrilous ... language . You quote certain notes of your reporter as cenfirmr ation of your view of the subject for discussion . la the Evening Star , Oct . 27 . th , is a report of Mr . Beesley ' s speech ; and therein he is said to have stated , " be waa there to prove that a repeal of the Corn Laws would not benefit the people . " There ia no qualification whatever to the proposition . This report wos , ( I have been informed by one of your friends ) probably drawn up by your reporter . Whether or not , it affords evidencG by a third p : irty connected with you ; and which I placein opposition , to the e / idenee of the notes of your reporter .

      That a repeal of the Corn laws would not benefit the operative classes without any qualification , is , evidently , Ute opinion of Mr . Beesky . ' He maintained ( see the Evening Star . jOct . 27 , ) that the United Kingdom could be niade to produce teu times as much corn as it does at present ; and , as a declamatory climax , to give effect to his argument , I find in reference to my notes , that he exclaimed ; " What care tve / er being drwunfrom tht markets of the ' world-V The correctness , therefore , of my apprehension of the proposition , remains undisturbed . Your tin willingness to abide by the proposition , as stated in iny first letter , is a tacik admission of \ ta soundness . Tbe truth of this proposition being admitted , all that I contend for ia granted . '

      As you appear so angry with me , and as this is my last communication to you on the sut-ject , I will tell you the secret of my wish to make both bim and your lecturer keep to the question .- 1 was present at fhe public debate in the Shambles between Mr . Jones and Mr . Falvey ; and I perceived that Mr . J . would rrot , exc « pt in one instance , a mere glance , approach the question for debate , notwithstanding the repeated calJs of Mr . P . for him to do so . Moreover , as an attempt has been made to shew , that I misunderstood every thing which I adverted to in reply to Mr . B ., I am determined that both Mr . B . and myself shall be so placed , that any deviation from the subject can be in ' Btantly checked . ' You have , I am informed ( for I have not seen the NqrthtrnSiar ) published , before it is finished , contrary to all usage and courtesy , our correspondence , u far as it has been carried on before . Had you no friend in the camp to appriaa you of the impropriety ?

      Heave now to the impartial reader to determine , whether I have paid you more attention than the uncourteoua and ungentlemanly style of your correspondence deserves . I ascribe this to your want of experience , as you disclaim all intention ol personal offence . 1 remain , Gentlemen , A well wiaber to trade and commerce , . R .- FIUTH . Hull , Nov . 9 th , . 1842 . NB . I should have added that you misapprehend my silence on your other ctu iitions . After the receipt if your last , lttttr , I thought it necessary to settle tbe subject for debate tbe first .

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      TO MR . ROBERT FIRTH , " CORRESPONDING SECRK-: ' . 1 A . RY . OP' -THE HI- -LL A . NTI-UO . NOrOLlf ASSOCI-. " : ? ; . AXIOS . " - - , 6 ir , —We have received your last , and regret to . find that you persist in repudiating the credit we had given you for a honest purpose to abide fairly the result of the contest you had sought . Tn reference to the lesson you are pleased to condescend us , at the commencement of your letter , about " mistaking the nature of our public duty , '' " neglect of courtesy , " and " scutriUous language , " vre have only

      to observe tbat our eucieivour bas been to maintain a rigid adherence to all the courtesies of civilized society . If our correspondence , though respectfully worded , has been somewhat unflitterlng in its torie , the reason may be found , not in our disposition to be offensive , much less scnrrilious , but in the matter and expression of your own letters , in which we lament the eihibition of so much irraseibility , combined with a seemingly studied offfensiveness of phrase , as satisfies us that ; however deficient we may be in the courtesies of public correspondence , yours is not the school in which tolesrn them . .

      We are not aware . 'of any irrelevant matter in our last , save such remarks as were called for by youra of the 3 rd- ; and if you are pleased to introduce matter irrelevant to the question , you must bear with us if we take the trouble to reply . . . Tuu srero sensible of the dilemma in whioh yon have . put yourself ; nor are we blind t « it ; but , however much we may . sympathise with you , our " public duty " -will not allow us to permit you to escape it scatblesa . ' -. You have accepted our challenge , ami must abide tho consequences of your act . The shewing of your present letter proves that you accepted it in ouv terms ami noi ia those by which you now seek to substitute them ; ^ and you must not expect to wriggle out of it by clogging jhe question with such " limitations" and " qualifications" as you may think proper .

      You quote tbe EvtJiing Star ot Oct . 27 , to show that ¦ ilr . Beesley is of opinion that " A repeal of the Corn Laws would not benefit the people ;* " and you add that '' there is no qualification whatever to the proposition . " You need not have gone so far for proot We were quite willing to admit that that was his ppinion , and quite prepared to maintain that be ia correct in holding that opinion ; and the only thin ; that we insist is , that there shall be" no quaUfication whatever to the proposition . " par last letter might have sufficiently apprised you of all this . But what are the reasons and the arguments by which this proposition is to' be maintained ? Precisely those which the . " limitations" and " qualifications" you seek to introduce would altogether exclude frota the debate ! Reverse the matter ; and we propose that the question be , " Would a repeal of the Corn Laws benefit 'the . people ? " but that neither " free trade , ' " cheap bread , " -nor a : iy other argument , to prove tbat it would , be at all admitted into the discussion .

      You must see , if you be not wilfully and obstinately blind , the absurdity of your position . If . yon-had stated ati the lodge that " neither the franchise nor any other schema be introduced , " and had Mil B .-esley accepted that proposal , our course would have been cl-iar ; but when you presume to lay down conditions which were not stated then ; when you propose that uir collateral subjects , and , indeed , all the sources of your opponent ' s arguments shall be rigidly excluded ; when you insist on being sole dictator both of the subject and the mode of the discussion , you pay an ill compliment to our sense , when you expect us to submit to it without demur , and afford an . ill sample of "the genteel and courteous" in being angry with us when you find that -we do not do so . And yet you have the hardihood to accuse us " of unwillingness to abide by the proposition" ! and assume that all you contend for is era * : ted !

      . Gently , gently , good Sir . Not quite so fast I We have certainly no disposition to agree to a proposition which would bind us to enter into a discussion with our tongue tied ; bat we are equally indisposed to admit that " A repeal of the Corn Laws would benefit the people . " And we regard your tenaciously adhering to the " qualification" which you have attached to it as a proof tbat you feel conscious of your inability to sustain it it a fair field be given to your oppo nent . In conclusion , air * wo again tell you that all we require from you is that which we are ready to accord to you , " a fair field and no favour . " Your present letter lays down the terms , of Mr . Beesley ' s challenge in words which we are ready to adopt . Ton affirm tbat " there was no qualification whatever to the proposition . " If these terms ( your own , mind ) content you .

      the whole of your skirmishing In this correspondence is wasted . Now then , Sir , what , say you ? Dare you withdraw your " qualification , " and abide by you * own showing of your own acceptance of Mr . Beesley ' s challenge ? It bo , let us nave no more fighting round tbe bush ; but to the field 1 We have bad enough of this small fire , and are tired ef it . . We take the " lists" as your own showing ; and we wait to see you at once enter them , as we shall assuredly write down that you shrink from a contest of your own seeking . We are , Sir , With all due respect , The Hull Chartist Councillors , Signed on behalf , and by request of the whole , W « . HotLiDAi , Secretary . Hull , Nov . 2 Isfc , 1842 .

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      CHRISTMAS BOXES FOR THE VICTIMS AND NATIONAL DEFENCE FUND /

      • Brother Chartists , —Nearly another year is . past ; still we sett tyranny in all its huge forms with tbe grasping hand of selfishness , still determined to oppress and enslave the toiling millions of this country , and bring those who are not yet brought down to a state ot beggary . How much longer this infernal system it to remain it is for you to decide . Talking about it won't do ; tben we must buckle on tbe armour , and prepare ourselves for the good work . We have another year nearly at band ; then let us make it truly what it ought to be—the happy new year , Let us set about it in right earnest ; and as a working man who has to toil fourteen hours a day , to drag ont a miserable existence , I will suggest to others what I intend to do myself .

      Christmas-is a time when most of the working classes t : ike a holiday ; then let us tura that holiday to the beat account ; let us show our tyrants we are determined to take , every advantage of every circumstance ; and that we are bent upon having our freedom . Then let every Chartist go a Christmas boxing in behalf of tne Victims" and Defence Fund . We see placemen , penaten « rs , cliurcbmen , policemen , beadles , and all the other black beetles and leeches , who are sacking the beasts' blood of society , going a Christmas boxing . Surely , what is good for the goose is good for the gander . Let us go and appeal on behalf of the wives and families of th' » se noble-minded men who have so nobly stood forward to advocate the cause of suffering humanity .

      ' , My brother Chartist , Sims , and myself , have determined to devote Christmas Day and boxing day to this noble work . We have put down sixpence each for example ; let every man who calls himself a Chartist do likewise , or more if he can afford it . Let no man say he cannot afford , while he can throw away sixpence for that accursed hog-wash which only fills the enemy ' s exchequer , and buys bullets and bayonets for the pression of freedom all over the world . Let every two Chartists throughout England , Ireland , and Scotland , do this , here is a sum of money at once . Let every

      locality get collecting boxes , marshal the men in twos , as two can go about the work better than one ; bnt let every man , who bas half a doaou acquaintances , get a collector ' s book , signed by the committee of his locality , authorising him as a collector . The man tbat won't do this is a poor Chartist indeed , when he knowa there are sixty nobles of nature that have to take thti * trials . Many have families thrown upon the wide world -unprotected , scoffed at by the upper classes , and neglected by ; all those who should befriend them . .

      Brother Chartists , money is the sinews of . war , and if that is hot forthcoming , to all intents and purposes ninny of these will have to shore the fate ot poor Eiiis . . :, . ; . -:. ¦ ¦ . ¦ Poor Ellis ! after being ' proved Innocent was banished from his native land . I think I see him standing on the vessel ' s deck , with the tears streaming down his manly cheeks , torn from the wife of his affection , torn from the children of their loves , torn from everything that was dear to bim ; he looks back for . faia native land , but in vain ; he sees nothing bnt the briny ocean ; be has lost every hope ; be sinks in despair , and is heard of no more .

      • Tuink on these , brother Chartists , and say , shall wo spend our Christmas in idleness ? I think I hear you Bay no . Then get yourselves in readiness ; get small collecting boxes , they are always handy . Go to the shopkeepers ; go to i ' . classes of Reformers ; go everywhere were you think there is a penny to be got Let not differences in politics baulk the generous mind . Appeal on behalf of suffering humanity ; let every Chartist who bas a wife ask her to go to the shopkeeper , wbtresho deals , with tbe collection book Let the females go about the work , and euccewia certain . Go to your concerts and balls , at night , in behalf of the victims ; no trusting to one another . Let every man go about the work .

      I shall take the Charter in my hand , and any body that complains of ignorance I aball endeavour to sell it to thfetn for one penny , the profits to go to tha Victim Fund . Let every good Chartist do the same . Remember Christmas Day comes on a Sunday ; get your boxes and men selected a w&k previous . Let every lecturer impress this onT the > mind of his audience . ¦ If Corn Law tepealew can ndse fifty thomsand pounds , Chartists can do the Bam * i where there is a will there is always a wa » / . . Paine has Said , " for » nation to be free she must will it , " and he that woult ^ Jbe tfree himself must strike tbe Wo-57 . . . . W . SERLB , London , j Nov . 20 , 1842 .

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Dec. 3, 1842, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1189/page/6/