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      JO TBX EDITOB OP THE SOSTHEBJf SIAS . j SIR . —Naturally , I hare a great aversion to writing , ' sad seldom have recoaree to it except when necessity j cainpals me ; seen necessity seems to prestnt itself , at present , in eonst < juence of a cexnmnnication addressed by Mr . O'Connor " To the Chartists of Glasgow , " ¦ which sppesred in the Isorfk&rn . Slar' * of the 23 * n Jane , ! Eai in ¦ which very particular reference is made to [ nyyelt 1 The r ; flections of Mr . O'Cont-or have bs- ; n caostd , it ' KEBis , by the report of a susech said to have been deli-: wr \ TTir TT iTm'T > r \ t » * ro"P "K r \ -n ^• ry-ryn V r «» ¦»•

      ver . d by me which appeared in the Glasgow Saturday Evening Post" With special lefertEcs to the Post ? 1 msy remark , in the ontset , that the Glasgow " O"Con- ' nor ToTy-Ci 3 artists ' tas "we have been long dtsignattd by the Post ) hate been eo long accustomed to the misleprestnxtion of their proceedings in its colnxnns , that a fair and cuiiid report is never looied for ; and as to correcting its misrepresentations , 3 believe snch sn j idea rierer enters inte tha head of one of tht-m ; and j certainly ieYer entered into mine , with refereccs to I the report in question . With the view cf SuOTrin ? the < Incorrectness cf said report , I will t » te the first thl £ B ~ complete sentences of it , and show in what respect I , mignt bare compi 2 in « d reBpscting them , if I had deemed it necessary . j

      1 . " Mr . Jasses 3 t ! oir supported the remaris of Mr . ' B »» , and went on to show that the Executive Council of tfce 2 Cationsl Charter Association bad not , and conld j not possibly haTe , the means of carrying oat the objects of tfctir Association . " 2 . " When it was recollected , > Jr . Moir said , that ; Glasgow and Long Govan were ths only places iB 1 Scotland which sent Members to the late Chaxtist ' ConTtntion in London , they would haTe some idea of the Jfstiraal Movement" " ] 3 . " Bnt tfcty foana that from Aberdeen this ; Rational Charter Association hacL got five shillintB . "

      > vow , Sir , with reference te thi first sentence , in the course of my observations I certaaily did say " that-the Executive of the National Chartir Association had not the means * f carrying cat the ogjgcta of their Associatear tud tfciB I s&id upon the suViority of the Executive itself ; but uot wiih the viewV of blaming either the Executive or : hos * persons wboWere members of Ibe Association—but with the view of blamin ? those persons who profess to be friendly to Ghartism , and who do not join the Association—a circumstance which ytu will perceive the report keeps carefully out of view . The words " could not possibly have" were not n » £ d by me £ i alL To have njk-d such words would have been sheer nonsense ; for I knew that had tha people joined the Association , its Executive could not hsva been without funds , and , therefore , it both

      *• conld * " and " might * ' have had plenty of funds . With respect to the second sentence : much that I said at this part of my speech is not given at all ; and when I mentioned the circumstance of Glasgow and Long Govan being the only places in Scotland which sent repiesentatms to the National Conference , lately held at Manchfiter . snot at London as the report as it ) , it was done with the view of shewing how very livtie interest the people of Scotland appeared to take in the sgititien for the Charter at the present time . And bow , in respect to the third sentences what I stated wsj « , that the City of Aberdeen , instead of sending a representative to the 3 Ianchesttr Conference , sent five shillings . ; which statement was also made to shew the absence of interest at present taktn by the people in the agitation for the Charter .

      From these explanations , it will be dearly setn , how Tcry different were aiy statements from those contained in the report . The " report" while it contains much that iB true , is strained and perverted to serve a purpose ; ssmely to make it appear that I was altogether disaffected to the National Charter Association , while my object was to prove to the people assembled that the 11 professors of Chartism" were not , as a bedy , supporting any Association , either National or Local ; and Jhat aa long as such death-like apathy and indifference manifesttd itself on the park of the people , there was no hope whatever that the Charter ever would be made tbe law of the land ; and , when I stated such to be my opinion , I was , and am now , as sincere and conscientious as it is possible for a man to be .

      Sir , before proceeaing any farther I n » y TemsiK , in Kf = i £ Bce to the National Gaaiier Association , that my knowledge and experience of the Scottish people iadncea ma to entertain a very strong and unqiaiifi-rd opinion , that no Association upon a BimS - ai principle will meet with the approbation and support of a treat nlajority of them . I know that in this opinion I mBy be wrong ; but the fact is undoubted and indisputable tbtt up to this moment the Scottish people have not mot even the professors of Chartism amongst ihem ) in Buy way testifiei their approbation ef such an Asso ciation .

      But , do not let me be misunderstood . I have never Eisde any T * -fl . j * tian » upon the people of England for EiiAbEshing ] such an Association for themselves , nor even for tryinz to prevail npen the Scottish people to join it ; the burden of my complaint ajtainst the people is , that thry are not members of any Association either Local or Jf-itioEal . If the people were united , arhar locally or nationally , Chartism would present a very Q ^ F r 5 ^ t Mpect indeed . Sir , Mr . O'Connor says , " The people of Aberdeen are not liable to the taunt of poverty . " When I stated that tha people of Aberdeen had , instead of a resr » - KntiSon , ssnt fixe ahiliings to the ^ rational Gonference , I merely stated a fact ( with no intention -Hhatmrtif sneering at their poverty ) with the view ef

      prt-vin ? the likelihood of the existence amonaEt them , is amoEEst ourselves , of a vast -number of Iprosecscrs cf Chartism , fellows who Lave no moie title to call fceasslves Chartists , than the crowds 6 f prufessjeg Clxrhtians with which "we are surrounded on all hanis , Trho do rot the thicss which Christianity v . gairts of them , have a title to call themselves Christians . 3 ! r . 0 'CoET . or further says " that Aberdeen sent that quota which for a particular purpose was demanded . " Now Sir , this is not quite correct , M my recollection estvcs E 5 right What was demanded was this , that ph ees which sent a delegate to the Csnference were to send alorg-with him fire shillings , for the purpose of cefrsyiBg the expesces incurred by th 6 sitting of tie C ^ aferenea ; but places which did not tend a delegate

      were net required tt > send five shillings . Bnt thci > gb it were literally correct , as 34 r . O'Connor alleges , t int Aberdeen did send what was demanded of it , the fact that Locg Govan , Aberdeen , and Glasgow , were the only plzces in Scotland which responded to the call , proves that the great mass of the people of Scotland are isdifivrent to the agitation for the Charter at the present ami , which is the only matter of complaint with ise . And , now , one word with respect to " the pro-Iesom of Chanmn , " or those persons who , while tbty pretend to be favourable to Chartism , take special good csre-never to do anything for the advancement ef it : By treatment of them is this ; whenever I happen to inert with one of those persons in distress , I no more tfclak of sympath ' z ' iig with him or affording him the Ensiles ! rsiicf , than I would think of offering food to » deid dog- Such persons , in my opinion , earn -for

      themsfclvts an indisputably good till * to the full benefit of the present system ; and , so far as I » m concerned , 1 * h » ll take especial care they have tbs full benefit of it , whether it . turn up cracking . stcntB at ntnepence a day , at a pint of black broth and " a small portion tf as black brtad daily . " What a shocking infidel wretch this fellow lloir must bs ' I think 1 hear loma eff-ctedlj hum-aie professor of Christianity exclaim J SuftJy , softly , my buck , say I ; when I make the above statement , I make it upon the truly Christian principle of " co ' -ngunto others as I would be done by : * 7 for , I tocseitntionriy declare , that if I were capable of acting *> Pharisaical and base -a part as the persona above itferred to , I would just deserve and wonld expect to be irwted in the very same way . I hope I have been fcEciently plain bj this part of our body as to he unifcrsiily understood by them .

      ill . O ' Conr or seems to talk as if the absence of money ' a the treasury of the " National Charter Association" ' * a * cinsed by the poverty of the " Chartist ranks . * Xi - ^ sir , I am at issue with ill . O'Connor on this sub- ' Ft- 1 deny absolutely that the want ef money in the ' Ciartist Exchequer is caused by the poverty of the ' "Chartist racks . * ' The cause of it is the absence of * tri 2 to part with it for that purpose . Why , Sir , fifty thousand men sacrificing only one half-penny weekly , i " wcnldpour iuto the National Exchequer . not less than ; the large Bum ot one hundred and four pounds three ] shillings aa-i four pence per week ! The half of that would be fifty-two pounds one « hilHng and eijjhtpence I i

      Is there soi in all Icgknd ( not to mention Scotland at ] prfcKBt 25 . 000 men , who are not only able bnt willing : t > raske this sacrifice ? If there be Dot , then , in my < opinion , tfcere is do mora ho > e of the Charter being j made the kw of the land , than there is of my being Jnaaelard Chancellor of England . The Jnere sale of . one hundred ^ thonsand cards of membersr / ip . at two- 1 pence « ehf would realizs not less than £ 833 6 s 8 d , i *> nch rajfa , after deducting the price of &e cards would ' tjve aslmuch as would defray the expences of the iircutivi for a whole year very nearly , independent of ] » ay weekly contributions at alL Sir , it is the absence j M will-to tart with the money , that is the cause of the ' poverty of tkeJExecutive ,

      Same persons h&Te taunted me with the circumstance j * my having sent ien shiliiBfa to the late National ; «« rter Assb ^ tion ef England , as being inconsistent * A my refusal to join the National Charter Ass scia- i « D- Sir , as yai as this is concerned J am perfectly con- - g snt Ipre the English people credit for knowiDg , r ^ t iSBl poaibly could , ¦ jrhat sort of an Assoeiation ^ nld iaitthemhest j ana , thererora it was , I sentj ** mten shillings to help them forward with it , and ! » shed tbtm God Epeed . If J had been a mere pro- ] te&r of Chartism I would have wished them God speed ] •* n kept the ten shDlinfi in my pocket . I was then , ! * 1 iis coir , tlecidedly of opinion that such an Associa- « O » illnot-wo * in ScoHand ; bat Iflndnofaalt with 1 * ° se who thoo » e to makt another experiment upon the j ? ° pls cl Scofland . 2 have tried them twice upon a * s > 3 m principle ; sad the failure b *» been complete in > «* itases . '

      «• O'Connor aya tiat he * ' further finds that the } ^ ffitviat of Mi . TiEcent to Glasgow has furnished ; 5 * Moir with reason for declaring that there was ' ** no difltreoce hatween the Tory CfeartiBt * and the ^ Ple-e SufiragisU . * Sir , this declaration is not , gje- When I repeated this Etatement , I was merely ^ ffflTig tfeg meeting that the Editor of the Glasgow . r ^ ack was now of 1 hat opinion , in constqaen » e of I ri Ctanplefce Suffragists carrying Mr . Vincent to the ^ . to the great peril or the " liberal interest * for the ^ aamock district of bnrgbs ; "be aUeging that , up l ? « u * period , ha bdiered tb&t the Complete SBffira-J

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      | gists were discreet good boys who would not , like the reckless Tory-Chartists . " persist in carrying tbeir mac to the poll to the imminent peril of the ¦ ' liberal interest ; " but that note having sten that they wonld , he « onld see «• now no difference between th « Tory-ChartJsta and the Complete SnffragiBts . " So much for that . However , I have no hesitation in informing Mr . O Connor , that i publicly thanked the ninety-eip . ht electors who voted for Vineeut ; because he Buppbrted and vindicated the ¦¦ S » x Points" in every one of the fcnr ^ hs ; and , if Chartism be preached even ont of mere contention , " yea I do rfjoice , and wll ] rtjoice . " Mr . Vintent also before a public Betting of the citizens of Glasgow and in my own hearing deciartd that be was sot ashamed of the name of " Chartist , ' which was the name that both Whigs and Tories belli him up under during the election . . » . _ »» . _ - _ _

      If the Voluntaries or Anti-State ChuTch men had acted consistently with their own professions and principles , I have every reason to believe that Vincent would have bsen retnrn « d ; and in my hnmble opinion , he would have answered onr purpose » t least as well us the Hon . Edward Pleydele Bouv . re ; but the greater part of the Voluntaries proved themselves to be ^ what we have kad abundant proof of frequently before , namtly , s set of mere mouthing noiry hypocrites , to txpoEe whosi inconsistent conduct was b chief object of my bein ? present at the public meeting called , by Vingent in Glasgow .

      As to Mr . Vincent ' s opinions as to the Repeal of the Corn Law * , I deem them altegetber & matter of secondary importance ; aa I think the Parliament which has betn constituted , as Lord John Russell informed us long ago , " upon a principle calculated to give a lasting preponderance to the landed interest " has- given us abundant proof that it will take care , very jood care , not only whan but how they are itps&led . ' With regard to Mr . Vincent's infidelity or his Christianity , I am not inclined to tronblt myself with it , as 2 have to intention of taking my religious opinions from hue If he be aa Infidel and pretends to be a Christian , 1 have no defence for his hypocrisy .

      In answer to ilr . O Connors q-. eries , I do not mean to say th ^ t the Complete Saffragists have adop ' . ed our name ; nor do I mean that the vote of the glorious majority in Birmingham , my own being of the number , has feeen rescinded in Glasgow ; nor do I forget that I was a delegate to the Convention of 1839 , which unanimously resolved upon opposinf the Anti-Corn Law Le-jjrne ; nor do I forget that I was a delegate to that C nveDtion in Birmingham which resolved mpon preserviag tha name of the Charter . I may have seen Mr . Titcant ' s address , bnt I have no recollsction of reading it : I recollect th » t Mr . Vincent was a delegate to the Convention of 1 S 39 which resolved upon opposing the L « &xue ; nor do I forget my own many successful struggles against that faction . 1 have no knowledge ol the declaration of Mr . Vincent , in ana's ? t r to the remon strance ef the Chartists of D « rby .

      In reference to the ab- > ve querlts , I have just one observation to make , and that is—that so far as my own opinions aT 6 concerned , 1 have not changed on « of thum from the commencement ef the agitation for ' The Charter" tul the present time ; and I have not done one act during th » agiUtion that 1 am not ready to repeat I stand by and defend the whole policy of " the Chartist body . " Mr . O'Connor says—" The concluding sentence of 21 r . iJoir ' s speech mnst lead to the conclusion tb » t the proposed object did not involve the success of Chartitm . It runs thus : —• After a few further remarks , Mr .

      Moir concluded by urging the to-election of the Committee of the Giasi ? ow Charter Association in the meanlime , and the raising of ftmda to contest Parliamentary flections . * " Now , I have just to say to this , that whatever ilr . 0 Connor may think or esy , the proposed obj » ct < : ~ oes involve " the succras of ChartiBm" in my opinion . However , as Mr . O'Connor can get nothing but my statement to that tfiVct at present , time alone , which discovers all things , can prove the truth of it In the meantime Mr . O'Connor has my foil liberty to b » abundantly suspicious and watchful resp . cting me . An honest man is never disturbed at the idea of being sharply looked afttjr , and a knave requires it .

      Ml O'Cohbot farther say * : — "When we were disunited , Chartism was a wrangling tragaboo , and now that we are united , it is a pauper scarecrow . " Upon this all that I « an say is , that it appears Mr . O'Connor ' s idea-ef union and mine is widely different I was simple enough to belHve that the £ btrnc « cf monty in tfce exchequer of the English National Charter Association ( for it can scarcely be said by anybody , I think , to have bein adopted by Scotland yetj was a pretty strong proof of the absecte of union . And for Scotland , as a whole , I think I may safely ray that while Chartism may be said to have a name to live in it , it is ju&t as newly dead as may be In respect to this jrreat city , J conld scarcely say with confidence that I know there art . three hundred persons taking an active personal interest in the advancement of Chartism . I atk any impirtial person if thU has any appearance of the people being united ?

      In conclusion , Mr . O'Connor a « ks ms to . stand fa « t " hy tbt straight standard sod raised fljg of Chartism . * Sir , I have stood and am now standing fast "by the straight standard and rasgeo flag oi Charmm j" but I tLint I have great cause to com plain that so very great a part tf the people sp&ear to have deserted the " Tested fl 3 g . " Sr , 1 have b * en a memberof an association having for its objtct the obtainmeDt of " tb » Chajitr" from the earliest pt-iiod of the agitation until now ., aiid not a merely nominal member—one of your fellows who endeavours to pacify his conscience by purchasing b ticket of mtmbtrship , and then very conveniently forgets to pay even one farthing of the weekly CGDtriivuiions rt-quued of him—but have constantly contrilu ! fe

      the o } -j ;< : L If one half < A the persons who profess to be favourable to Casjiisni had done the same—yfa had onequarter part . c » f them done the same thing Vie cause of Chariism vxvld haveevjoytdnTdtierrup'tduhdconlinvous prosperity . No , no , Sir , the poverty of the people is not the ca-ase of the prtsent state of Chartism . It i « net 2 s 6 d a week that is -wanted ; it ia not Is 6 d a week that is wanted ; it is no ! 1 b a week that is wanted ; it is no ' . 6 . 1 b wetk t >_ at ib wanted from " the professors of Chirtism" to maintain the cause in a healthy and fl jcrisbing condition , li any of the above sums were wanted , 1 could well understand how the poverty of very many coald be urged as a reason for its not being given . Bat , Sir , it is not any oi the above sums that is wanted ; it is not threepence a week ; it is not even ¦

      fwopt ; nce a » etk ; yea , even one penny a week would be greatly more than is wanted , if it were honestly and regularly contributed by those who profess to be favourable . Why , Sir , 250 , 000 men , little more than ones ' xfh of the " National Petitioners" for the Charter , by comribcting tb = pitiful sum of one farthing would in one week raise not less than £ 260 8 s 44 % A contribution of on . -penny from the same Eambw would in one we * t raise the large sum of one thousand and forty-one pounds , thirteen shillings , and fourpeECe . Let me bear no Eiore cf the sickening cant of the poverty of the people being resigned as a reason for the absence of mea , r > 8 to carry on the agitation for the Charter in an tfi 5 c : t " ni end proper manner . It is the want of will and r : ot ihe want of ability , as I h&v « abundantly demonttra ' . td .

      I have just one oJher observation t » make ere 1 come to an end , and it is this , should another general election come on atd find the peeple , as usual , without fnnds to fight tt-e ccmiuoB entmy of Whig and Tory on the eJeerion battle field , which is the enJy way they can ever hope to ranks any impression upon them , it will then bt ? a matter for consideration , so far as I am concerned ,, whether I should not cease to trouble myself gabbling any longer about Chartism . Sir , while 1 regret exceedingly that it should be necessary for me to occupy so much of yonr valuable space ;

      still , if the rtfl . ctiunB which 1 h&ve been compelled to m&ke from a sense of duty to myself as w » ll as to the people , have the tffect of inducing " the professore of Chartism" to rally round and boBtstly snpport . according U their means , tfor nolhinE » ore is required ) " the straight standard and Tagged flag of Chartism , " I shall not have written in vain , and will thank Mr . O'Connor most sincerely for putting me in a position to compel ms to-write this very leug letter , notwithstanding my great aversion to writing . With much re » peot , I rsmain , Sir , Ycry truly yours , Glasscow , 5 th July , 1844 . Jamis Mom-

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      HOUSE OF LORDS— Fbidat , Jult 5 , In reply to the Eirt of MisiO , The Earl of Eaddisgtox slated that a sufficient naval force bad been sent to the Mediterranean , with the view of-protecting British interests , should events in the war between Prance and Morocco bo require ; and the Government were eqnally prepared to send a similar force totbe cos ? t of Africa or the Pacific , if circumstances shonld render it necessary . The Bank Charter Bijl , on the motion of the Dake of WELTiiNGio : * , was read a first time . 'Lord Campbell , iu a speech pointing ont the present state of the law on the subject , and the necessity for improvement , inoved the third reading of hi 3 Law of Libel BUL The LOiD Chakcbllob epposed it , contending that it wonld lead to great inconvenience , without any countervailing advantage .

      Lord Bhocghah , in a lively and characteristic speech , gave ilia support to the Bill , which , however , was opposed by Lord DE 2 UIA . H , who thonghtthat the subject haa not received that due and sufficient consideration which which would warrant them in legislating . Public opinion had tffected a great change in the practice in relating to proEecutloDB for alleged libela on a Government Attorney- Generals , judges , and juries , -would shrink from prosecuting or convicting defendants for comments on public men or private acta , whioh half a century ago would have enEnrtd punishment . As to private libels , the bill afforded to defendants under the disguise of proving the truth , a licence which might be subjected to a torture greater than any Terdiet could deliver them from . Lord Campbell replied ; and the bill wob rejected , on a division , by 33 to 3 . The Presbyterian Marriages Bill wen I through committee , and the Boose adjourned .

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      Mokjut , Jcly 8 . On the motion of the Duke cf Wbllington , the name of Lor < 3 Calborne was substituted for that of the Earl of Burlington , in the committee on the Postoffice . On the motion of the Earl of Ripon , the second reading of the Bank Charter BUI was fixed for Tuesday , and the committee on Friday . A massage from the Commons requested permission for Lorn * Melbourne , Aberdeen , and Normanby , to attend the Comaong Committee on the PoBt-office . The two latter of the peera named being present , and assenting , the answer was given affirmatively ; but as to Lord Melbourne , who was not present , " their Lordships would send an answer by messengers of their own . "

      On the motion of Lord Brougham a messenger was sent to tfae Houbb of Commons for leave to allow Lord J . RuMselland Sir J . Grabara to attend and give evidence bafore the secret committee on the opening of letters at thePoBt-office . On the motion of Lord Campbell that Lord Melbourne have leave to attend and give evidence before the secret committee on the same subject in the House of Commons , leave was granted .

      INCESD 1 AK 1 SJI AND THE POOR LAW . Lord Wodshoesb rose , and with every indication of considerable excitement addressed their Lordships as follows : —My Lords , 1 wish to say a few words on behalf of certain of the , yeomanry of that county of which I have the honour to be Lord Lieutenant , in reference to certain reports which have appeared as to their properly having been fired in consequence of the administration of the New Poor Liw . My Lords , the individuals ia question are well known to myself ; they are , particularly , Mr . Neave , Mr . Bead , and Mr . Goocb . £ The statement of the Times correspondent with respect to these and other farmers appeared in that paper of Thursday last ] My Lords , I declare , without any qualification whatever , the whole of the

      statements as to these gentlemen to be utterly false ! I declare they are most excellent men , and universally beloved for the kind manner In which they administer the Poor Law ; and I am most proud to call them my friends . None are more beloved by all classes , from the nobleman to the pauper . And yet these men are by the " gentlemen" of the press , as they call themselves , to be dragged forward and disgraced before the country , and perhaps—if their labourers were wicked enough to attend to such attacks —held up to txecration , and as fit subjeots of incendiariim . [ The Noble Lord spoke with extreme violence and volubility , but exceedingly incoherently , so that it was almost impossible now and then to catch his precise phrasetlosy . The peers around him seemed

      somewhat startled , and one or two wer » seen holding up their hands in a cautionary manned as deprecating ai-y further allusions to the subject The Noble Lord , howevtr , proceeded with increased violence . ] My Lords , I say such calumnies are not to be endured , and I will undertake personally to assert , and to provb—and the ** gentlemen * ' of the press , as they call themselves , may bo present if they please —( ' ¦ Order , order ")—some of them , perhaps , may be now present— ( " Order , order ") —if so , 1 hope they will take down what I say—I" Order ' ) . 1 Bay , my Lords , I will undertake personally to prove these statements false ; and I should like those wh » wrote them to be there ; and I should like to meet such calumniators face to face , and put questions in bis presence to every pauper , every

      guardian , every officer of the union to which these farmers and myself belong ; and I know the result would be entire exposure of these scandalous and infamous calumnies ! " Gentlemen" the press , my Lords—| " Order , order . ") ? Oh , my Lorda , 1 feel I have a right to say what I do ; they are a disgrace to the woitl " gentleman ; " when they write such base , such infamous calumnies , they deserve no other name than base calumniators ! My Lords—( here the Noble Lurd even surpassed his former vehemence ) , I never knew anything more base and infamous than such attempts to run down the best men in their district , by txposiug them to ignominy and disgrace J 1 would meet these calanjniatoir—I -wauid question , at . fl cross-quebtion witnesses ; I would prove that the Poor Law is well administered—that these ie no fault to b *> fonnd . with ita

      administrationthat the poor are better off in every respect , under it , than under the former law ! £ The Noble Lord here repeated more than once the ttrms " infamous calumnies" " udfounded scandal , " 4 c , with other language , unintelligible to us from the extreme rapidity and incobeieDcewitb wh ' cb his lordship spoke . He thus concluded —] My lords , I beg pardon for having so addressed yon —( hear , hear )—but I felt personally on the matter , having had two fires on my own property and near me ; and ceitainly thare is as muck reason in mj cose to conclude the cause was tha administration of the Poor Law as in the case of those gtmtlemen of whom I have spoken . I have spoken warmly 1 admit ; but , gentlemen [ the Noblt Lord repeatedly used this term , instead of the phras * " My Lords" ] when such things are written of sneb men it ia really too bad , " gentlemen ! *'

      The Marquis of Korhaxby did Dot wonder at tho warmth with which the Noble Lord had spoken , considering the characters of tee : persons attacked , and considering that be 5 s personally acquainted with them . I have been if quested by other parties to move for a retuni calculated , they believe , to throw light npon the sul'jtct fand it ia not opposed by the Government ) . —a return . of names , ap . , and drscription of a-H persons committed for trial for incendiarism at the last as" > Z' 3 for Norfolk and Suffolk , with the results in each case . Lord Wod £ House begged to be unrlsistooii asrsstricting his assertions to whaioccnrred ' wubiu his own hundred or union .

      [ To ei . able the reader to understand the foregoing very edifying ltcture" by the " Noble , '' L- > r < l WotJebouse , we mutt mention that the Times has for some tiin ^ p-iat , had a " Rtntltman of the press" in the agricultural vilbgeB t > f Ihe counties of Norfolk and Suffjlk , examining into the condition of the agricultural labourers , the ttlent of Incendiarism , and its probable canses . His communications have laid bare a mt-es of buffering absolutely appalling : and loud is the outcry against him on tbe part of the unfeeling portion of the landowner * and the farmers . He shews that Iccendiarisvi prevails to a most alarming extent ; that a disposition exists to hide

      a knowledge of the fact from the public , from a fear that publicity might cause the evil to epread into parts where it is now unknown . H « also shews that wheie the practice abounds , there the condition of tbe labourer 13 horrible in the extreme .: and he fm thtr bbtws in two instances of extensive -districts , that by far the major portion of flits that have occurred , have been of property belonging to parties engaged iu the administration of the New Poor Law . It is the sttting forth of this latter fact that has caused the ire and indignation cf Lord Wodehouse to boil over so outrageously . The Times of Tuesday moruing , had the following remarks on the extraordinary exhibition : —

      His Lordship asserts that Mr . Neava , Mr . Read , and Mr . Goochr have been " disgraced before the countiy " by our correspondent ' s letter ; and h ' s LoTdsfcip " undertakes personally to prove tbe atatemenls contained in that lettsr falsa" Now , what are the statements which that letter makts respecting these gentlemen ? To Mr . Neavo'a name is appended , " a Poor-L ^ W Guardian ; by reputation a kiud-heurted man , arid pays good wugr-s . " To Mr . Bead's , " a Poor-Law Gn-TfliaT !; bears tee character of a goed master , Jind kind-hearted man . " To Mr . Gooch'a , " a Poor-Law GaaTdian ; bears the character of a good mister , and kind-hearted man . " Will hiB Lordship undertake to prevs personally that all these statements

      respecting these three gentlemen are totally falie , erroneous , and without foundation ? Will he come forward and prove personally that Mr . Bead , Mr . Neave , or Mr . Gooch are all and each of them neither good masters , and kind-hearted men , nor pay goo ; l wages ? If he will , those gentlemen , we imagine , - will not be much obliged to him for tbe testimony be Beems so ready to afford as to tkeir respective characters ; and they wiil quite as lief sit for their portraits to us as to his Lordship . Save us from onr friends . Lord Wodebouse , we have no donbt , is moBt sincere in the goodwill and esteem which he bears to these gentlemen , but the Zial of friendship has just here rather outrun discretion .

      8 eriouriy , Lord Wodehouse talks of calumnies , " " scaudalouBand infamous calumnies , " " base and unf : unded scandal ; " of " attempts to run down the best men in the district by exposing them to ignominy and disgrace . " He repeats ba » e , " " vile , " •* calumnious , " scandalous , " " infamous , " ten times over in the same sentence , till bis Lordship himself isalmost out of breath . Hib Lordship's indignation ia too strong to be contained withiM the rules of composition , and he goes on saying base , " " vile , " ' horrid , " " infamous , ' with unadorned simplicity . What iB it a"tt about ? What has been done ? What is

      his Lordship angry at ? Lat him turn to our correspondent ' s letter . Positively the only thing said of these three gentlemen , besides the most direct and evident terms of eulogy , is tbe simple fact of thair beiDg Poor Law Guardians . Is the mention of this fact in itself a reproach ? la it calumniating & man , and disgracing a ipan , and exposing a man , simply to assert that-he is a Poor L * w Guardian ? We , for oar psrt , are far from being bo illiberal aB to think bo : we kuow many exceedingly good men who bold that cfiLe . But we do not see how his Lordship ia to avoid that inferenco with respect to his own opinion ; for he says our correspondent has slandered some gentlemen ; std on looking to our correspondent ' s language we find that the enly thing he mentions of them which is not in its own nature eulogistic , is the fact that they are Poor Law Guardians .

      Certainly , if it appeara as a matter of fact , that those perrons whos * ricks are ired are , in nine cases ont of ten , Poor Law guardians ; if aven Lord Wodehouse ' s ricka have been fired ( we did not know they had , till bis Lordship's spontaneous information on the subject ) , and Lord Wedehonsa ia a Pc * r Law Guardian—if , we Bay , this coincidence is generally observed in the acooun's of the country incendiaTy flrea—the fact do 68 rot tell much for the popularity of the New Poor Lnw Bat th 3 t is all the fact goes to prore . The observation of such a fact has nothing whatever to do witti tbe charastera of the persons whose ricks have suffered , as individuals . If they happen to bear an obnoxious and nnpepular office , it is their misfortune not their fault . While tbe New Poor Law exists , some persons or other must be New Poor Law Guardians . But it is the law .

      &nd not tbe individual , that ia the object of unpopularity . It ia tbe law , and not tba individual , that t ' ue cbsctrzUoa that we have been alluding to exposes .

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      In Wednesdays Times there appeara a letter from S ?* X A ^^ t 3 ! f " ba 88 caIumBiator - ' be t oere ^ nit !? ' T that " he shoaW Iike «« to and out iueB « L ? ° > ' and mee * hira face t ( > f ^ - he p oor » of thf » 6 V" ? PaUP 6 r and «« MdiaQ . ™* 2 K an in M i l *«* & tke mileage . There Ltd WDdPhTef ^ ti 0 n aa cIoae « Pe'haps closer than J ? M « »«« * deMre " - int 0 the condition of the poor th « Lr ^\? ' * eJires ha ™ * xm . and also into ! hoS ,, l pT > apd d 0 e 8 not ex 2 ite " •*¦» against Ihlvt , n , ° ^ admini 8 ter it . On no other ground 7 £ ? Z ,, r b ? ^ ordinary feet be accounted for . that three fourthsi of a ) 1 the fires have occurred on th * Sfcm nf . ° X Gtt »« tt « w . ^* appear to have J ? w ? h M U . refercnee to their character , whether as hard-hearted or kind masters .

      Brl ' Zt ° * oa 8 e t informB ffie t «» t * " > Kas had two J nrnn , ° \* > tat 8 t Accepting bis challsngft , the » n ? £ »^ Wtf ?™ " shaU b « . tether h « be pre-S at one ? y lnvesti 8 ated » »" I P ™ eed to the n . i . ^ Mfr nP ! ftSd my Inqu ! ry- b "t "tarn to Norfolk to aceept his Lordship's challtjDce . ]

      TPESDAr , July 9 . The Bai . k Charter Bin was read a second time . The Bishop of Exeter moved the ordtx ot the day for the third reading of the B . ll for the n . ora effectual suppress-o-i of brothela . Lord Foley moved as an amendment that the Bill be read a third time that day three months . Ultimately the Bishop of Exeter withdrew tte BUI on an assurance from the Duke of Wellington that tha subject would receive attention from the Government . The PreBbyterian Marriage Bill was read a third time aid passed .

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      HOUSE OF eOMMONS .-FBJDAY , Jvir 5 m . The House of Commons having gone into committee on the Poor Law Amendment Bill , Colonel SibthobpI on ; he first clause , proposed an amendment , that the Poor Law Commission be abolished . A short diacussion ensued , but tbe amendment being determined to be informal , it w » 8 withdrawn , the gallant colonel vehemently declaring , that on ac ^ count ot what he considered a breach of faith on the part of the Government , he would place confidence in them no more . :

      On the second clause , also relating to the subject of bastardy , Sir J . Graham proposed that twelve inontha should be allowed instaad of eix , for the mother ' s application agaiust the father to obtain maintenance for the child . It was t qually necessary for tke purposes of justice that there should be some limitation of time , and that the time so limited Bhould not be too short Mr . Stuart Wortley wished to guard against a mere temporary and colourable acquiescence by the father . He might , by paying the woman for twelve montha , disarm her vigilance , and then , after the twelve months , he would be safe . Some words therefore should be added , leaving the man responsible at any distance of time , in cases where he should have admitted himself to be the father . Sir J . Graham , thought it dangerous to leave men exposed at a great disiance of time to evidence of alleged declarations of paternity .

      Sir P . Egerton proposed to explain and amend Mr . Worthy ' s language with the additional woids , " by payment of maintenance money . " The proof of that fact would remove ail danger of false evidence of declarations . After some diacussion , Sir J . Graham proposed , wiih the general assent , to allow that th ^ father should be liable to a summons at any time , on proof that he had paid money for tba child ' s maintenance within twelve monthiftorn its birth . Oil the 410 , ClaUBQ , Mr . Beckett DEMS 0 N objected to the enactment allowing au appeal to the putative father . The woman would never have the means of meeting such a process . It would be better that the adjudication should be by three justices inBtcad of two , and that their decision should be final .

      Suveral Members concurred in the objection to the appeal , especially aB it was given only to . the man , and not to the woman . Sir J . GraiiaM admitted that the question was a v » ry difficult one . The inclination of his mind wa « rather in favour of the appeal , on grounds of abstract justice ; but he admitted that there was a danger lest the rleh father should take undue advantage of it to wrong tbe destitute mother . Seven ! Members thought that the appeal should either be wholly excluded , ot permitted to tbo woman as well as to the man . Sir J . Grahah thought that the power of two justices in pettj sessions to charge a poor man with the payment of a Weekly sum of thirteen years was a large and dangerous authority , if lfcft without appiml . It was , however , a matter upon ^ hi ch he had not a very strong opinion , uud which be oiust le ; we to the decibion of the conimittte .

      Mr . WaKL ^ t pressed urgently for reconsideration , with a view t <» the extenuion of the appeal to the woman . The distress of wuinun , cbargcabla with the maintetiaceti of their ba&Urda , wna the cause of Wbtikiy anil daily infanticide . Mr . B Dkmson was persuadad that the expense of such a remedy would amount to a prohibition in Ujo woman ' s casfc ; and continued to insUB thiit tbe first adjudication ought to bo final as against both parties . Sr James Gkaham said that tho statistics of the country did not b ' abw an ; iucreasu in the crime of infanticide . He suggested , that instead of giving the woman an appeal to the quarter Eessions , she should have liberty to make a fresh application to two justices . Tbe committee then went to & division , tho result of which was , that the apj-eal was left to tbe man ; and to the woman the right of i one whig her application . On the lltb clauso , empowering the coniRiiosioiiarB to regulate the apprenticing of poor children . 1

      Sir C . Napiernod others contended , that this direction was better left wuh the i ; u : irdiana , who had personal knowledge of the circuuis , <; i » ' -js of each case . St Jahls Grajuji etutfctl , that ho had , proposed to vest the control iu the comuiissionvrs , for the Bake of txcluding the personal biuti < i local veBidtnts , uud providing a check upon the misuse of Be extensive & discrttion . After some further discussion , ' Sir J . Graham txpressbd hia willingness to modify the cla ^ e . Mr . T . Buncombe observed that the clause , even when niudiflttd , would alill give new powers to the commissioners , and it should therefore be watched by tlioBQ members who did not intend that any such authority ( should be conferred . The guardians on the spot ¦ were tbe Ctttst judges of these matters . Col . SiBiHOiip was strenuous against intrusting any more power to the coiuuiissionei'S .

      Mr . Wakley entreated that the committee would Eot , by following out extitmu views on . either side , endanger tbe help ' ess and much oppressed children whose protection was the object of the clause- Ha would fcivu his most cordial support to the enactment wiih the modification proposed by Sir James G / aLam . Tbe Committee , dividing , decided that th « clause aa modi&ed should stand part of the Bill On the thirteenth clause , touching th « constituency foi the election « f Guardians , Mr . T . Du *» combe proposed that uo more than one vote sbouIJ be altoned to one person .

      Sir James Graham justified the clause as it stood ; and , On a division , it was sustained in its original shape . A discussion followed respecting tbe fourteenth clause , which relates ' to proxes at elections . Another division took place upon the sixteenth clause . It now bvina on the avroke , of twelve . Sir James Graha-M agreed that the Committee , after getting Wn-dUKb . the ntxt thTee cIuubbs , which related to matters of small interest , should terminate its sitting for tbat nignt . : Clauses up to 19 inclusive , having betn agreed to , tbe Chairman reported progress . Tbe Militia B : ilIoU Suspension Bill , the Tagranta ' Removal Bill , tha Stock in Tra ^ e Bill , and tbe Tarnpike Act 8 Continuance Bill severally passed through committee , and were ordered to be reported on Monday ntxt . The House then resumed .

      The Customs' Duties ( Isle of Man ) Bill was read & third time , end passed . Lord G S 6 merset , pursuant to notice , moved for leave to bring in a Bill to regulate the trial of controverted elections of Members of Parliament . He said tbat , at tbat late hour of the night , be should not detain the House by making any observations . Leave was given to introduce the Bill , which was brought in , rtad a first time , aud ordered to be read a secona time on Thuro < lay next . The Hous 8 adjourned at half-past twelve o'clock .

      Monday , Jcly 8 . Mr . Shiel and SirCHARLES NAUEltput questions rolaSive to the present position of affairs Detween France and Morocco ) to which Sir Robert Peel , In replying , deprecated all discussion in the House of Commons , which might provoke counter statements ia the Chamber of Deputies , on subjects which were actually in negotiation between tbe execntive Governments of England and France . He d « ned that tbe E * rl of Aberdeen bad unreservedly admittaek that the Preach occupation of Algeria was a fait accompli ; stated that the British consul at Algiers was ? ot acting under a French exequatur , but remained in the same position as under the Jato Government ; and affiimed tbat we were at present in as good if not a better position than any former period , for increasing our naval force . Not had Morocco rejected-oar ' me'dltattan , for Mr . D'urnniond Hay was with the Erapaier , &cUng on instructions from the British Government .

      Mr . Charles Wood rsminded the House of the way ia which the management of tbe navy by the late G iverument had been cenaurnd , -which , however , fea > i hsun maintained in a more tffieient state than it is now . He aaktd if th » Government meant to increase our naval force ? Sir Robeb / t Peel complained , in a warm tone , of the irregularity of these observations , which were

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      adapted for a discussion on the navy estimates , instead of the question before the House ( the second reading of the Railways Bill ) . Tdo Government , if it bzw occasion , woul 1 not hesitate to come down to tbe House for an increase of the navy estimates , but at present he declined to answer the question , or novice the ofcserrationa . Lord Paimbbston considered that the present st tte of affilrs justified the pntting of these questions , which it was quite parliamentary to ask witLout notice . ; The snbject dropped , after a few observations from Lords Howick and Stanley . i

      Mr . GisbjRNE then rose , and said he meant to pp ? ak to the question—the Riilwaya Regulation BiU , the order of the day having been , movsd for its second reading . As a member of the committee on whose report the bill was fou . ded , he appealed to ; tbe Government if it were expedient to legislate on matters affecting ao many important -Interests , and on which so very recently such a mass of evidence bad been taken—( holding up the huge blue book to the view ! of the Hoasej . Looking to tbe hostility which had : been provoked , he re commended that the recess should be taken for mature consideration , and hoped tbat | the Government wouM yield by withdrawing the bill , otherwise he should mover tbat the order of the day be discharged .

      Mr . Charles Russell , anpther member of the committee , seconded the amendment The railway companies complained that they had not been fairly heard ; they had been kep-t in ignorance of tbe scheme of the Board of Trade , until it appeared in the specific sbape of the bill before tbe Hous »; but its appearance was tbe signal for universal alarm . On behalf of intereats involving upward ? of one hundred millions of invested capital , he f » eaoueht a postponement till next eession , and trusted that the House would not refuse so reasonable a request , : Mr . Gisborme having formally move ?! his amendment , Mr . Gladstone said tbat It would absolutely preclude them from going into tbe merits of the bill , whi « b was wholly misunderstood out of doors . Lti them go into its diacnosion , and then any amendment for postponement could be fitly introduced .

      Mr . Hawes askfd how they could go into the discussion , seeing members hud nat yet been able to master the voluminous evidence ? Both Sir Rubeit Ptel and Mr . Gladstone , in proposing ; the inquiry , had promised tbat it should not affect existing railways . It wonld , therefore , bs a breach of faith to press suck a measure as this , with so many other important bills still demanding discussion . \ Mr . Colquhoun would not refuse to go into discussion on the bill , in order to hear what case conlcl be made out by tbe Government tor a measure inquisitorial in its provisions , and setting a dangerous and fatal precedent of intolerable interference with private property . I Mr . Wallace compja ' ned of the attempt to " cbc-ka " the discussion by those who had ja private pecuaiary interest involved . He hoped that the Government would be able to carry the bill , which he regarded as one calculated to promote the pubic benefit .

      Mr . Gjsborne denied that he was prompted by the railway companies . Mr . Hodgson Hindb would not oppose the discussion on the seoond reading , if after it the bill were postponed till next session . > Mr . Labouchere , approving of the principle of the bill , was satisfied that a discussion would remove much of the pxlstinjpprcjudice against It Sir Robert Peel said that the railway companies , presuming on their reputed strength , instead of acting on the ancient maxim , " Strike , but hear , ' were determined not even to permit an Executive Government to state its views on a measure introduced for the public interest . Now was the time to ! legislate ; a spirit of

      railway speculation was abroad ;; sixty-tw « bills had been applied for this session , and nest session would witness many more . Canvassing on public bills was now carried to an an warrantable . extent , as he snowed by reading a printed circular which had been sent to a grocer , a railway shareholder , entreating him to use hia influence with Members of Parliament to defeat the Government Bill . Tbe grocer , however , frankly replied , tbat if be had a vote , it would be given in favour of the measure . He begged the House to recollect that class of the community which had hitherto received no benefit from railways , and for whom the bill provided , by requiring the establishment of thirdclass train . " . j Mr . R . Yorke rrade a few observations ; and

      Mr . GiSJiORNE , seeing the feeling of the House in favour of a discussion , withdrew his amendment A number of petitions were then presented , chiefly against tbe Bill ; after which \ Mr . Gladstone rose to make the Government statement on behalf of tbe Bill . Several reaiarkabie ic-Btancea had , recently occurred of Bills misrepresented anA misunderstood , but in no case had there been more formidable organization against a measure , or grosser perversion of its real nature . So solicitous were the Government to protect railway interests , that they were accused of having " packed" the committee , which , constituted aa it was , had coui *» substantially to an opinion , if not in favour of tbis precise measure , at leasi in approbation of an interference to a similar

      extent . He was surprised by the alligation that tbe < vulence was emparte ; if it were so at nil , it wns on the side of the railway companies , as h « showed by reading the names of irfluciuiai individuals cunnec ' with their management who were examined as wit neMSF . Running over the claus sof the Bill , iffirming that tbe portion of it which provided for the humbler classes conveyance at a penny a mile , in carriages sheltered from exposure to the weather , constituu-tl a national question of some importance ; he came to what he considered the essence of the bid , the power of " option . " On this point great delusion prevailed j it was assumed that the bill gave to the EKwcutive Government the option of pucbosing for the State existing orifuture railways , or of revising tbeir tolls at

      discretion . This he strongly tltnkd . and said , if it were so , ho would himself vote agaiust the bill . Tut ) Exreutivo would hava no power under it of puichaning without corning to Parliament ia each speetflo case . Railways constituted a new elt-. ment in our social state ; it , was impos&ib ' . Q to forsee in what positioa we m . ght be placed by i hem t * n or fiftaen yeats hence ; and all that the bill proposed was , not to ; violate public faith by giving to tho Executive a present option of pursb . se , but simply to " reserve '' to tbe j Legislature at some future period the right to do bo without being barred by the plea of " vested interest , ''! if it should then be deemed political aud expedient . ! An Executive couicl not purchase a railway wit bout money , nor obtain money without coming to Parliament , and showing good ground for the fU mand . If it were feared that tha bill wouhl enable the Executive to ( tie up the discretion of the Le « islature , let them dtviso any proviso which

      would prevent it , and he would support it . Taero wa « a difference of two-thirds between the fares of our railways and those of Belgium ; imd ajthough it was siid that this was a much richer country , we paid no more , rather less , for our cotton goods . Seeing that the public wen * inttrcsttd to the extout of fifteen millions annually , and that under the present { system of rival companies and anxiety to realise large dividends , no general experiment e > f cheap cr / mmunioation could be tried , it was wise to reserve a right to the | Legislature of putchnae , if futher circumstances might render it an oljuct of national policy . It might be asked—why not b » content with a naked reservation t . That would prove a mere brutum fuimen , like a former resolution of the House , and it was d « 8 irttble that the Hmita should b « clearly defined , on the faith of which capital might be Invested . The old railway companies urged that the bill would submit then to ruinous conditions hereafter .

      Really , after tbs rather unprecedented attempt to suppress discussion on a bill based on the r « . pjrt of a select committee , they wire too bashful in asserting either their pewur or their j pretensions . Even at that moment he was addressing a majority of railway proprietors ; his own family were as Lrgely interested as any othtr ; and it wes ludicrous to imagine tbat these powerful combinations could not protect their interests at any future period . Time was asked for tbe consideration of the bill . But it was not a measure of definitive legislation , being simply one of precaution , so far as its leading provisions were involved ; and tho allegation of being surprised by the bill was contradicted by the fact , that tbe recommendations of tho committee , on which fit rested , bad been

      before the public three months . They were temptsd to postpone the bill by bland promises of consideration next session . But delay would render these powerfut companies only stronger and more arrogant ; and it would not behls fault if Parliament let slip the present favourable opportunity for legislating . They were urged to leave railways , like anythiug else , to the natural operation of competition ; but he would aa soon hear the Gracchi speak ou eeditian , j as railway proprietors on competition , Illustrating this by piquant auecdoto and extracts from evidence , he Bhowed the high ground taken , by the advocates uf the inviolability of railway property , and attributed the entire opposition to the bill to tbe active agpney of railway agents and solicitors , who knew well the arts of raising it , whether by private canvass or public misstatement—such as fastening on the fifth , and discreetly overlooking the third report of the committee , or forgetting such evidence as Mr . Glynn ' s ,

      recommending that if they legislated it should be immediate . They were told of " a , shock to railway property j " bnt the bill had not been exposed to a dull day in the moDey market Since the publication of the third report , fifteen new railways had been projected , and slnctj the appearance of the bill , railway shares had risen > On Monday week a lugubrious body of menrailway directors in front—solicitors and agents in the rear—waited on Sir Robert Peel and himself , to ask for a postponement of the bill ; and when the ; were told that the Government were resolved to press it , they retired with doleful predictions of ( injustice , interference , and xnin ; yet Bince that event the shares of tho Great Western have risen £ 5 I The opposition to the bill had but strengthened his determination to prceeed with a measure , moderate in its claims , and precautionary in ita nature ; and he did not think that the railway companies had mounted s& tiigb , or the House of Commons sunk so low , as to canse its rejection , the second reading of which he concluded by

      moving . j Mr . ENiwiSiE , as one of the " lugubrious deputation" tbat had waited on tbe Government , commented on the bill , which be contended was unjust to tbe rail-

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      way companies , while tbe clan jur for c jt « " £ ire ! 2 S 5 train * was supported by ttf-ntlanitn who were as desirous of availing tbemse ' ves of thsru a * thu pcor man , for wfiosa cams they clamoured . He moved , tbe second raadiug of the bill that day s ; x months Colonel Sibthorp rlisclairaeri what hart been attribute 1 to him in tbe public paper " , that he hid iost confldrinoa in th » Givernmiut . C wip rinc it with the late o < e , of whose ten years' tenurs i-f .-ffi ' -e he fenew no good , he consider * .- ! it bi 9 hi ^ hc-l ; dutf to prefer it , even though ocoaiionally d ' . f&ring with i ' . Bnt . though not always . approving vt tha measures of th = ' Pre «< iienfc of the Board of Tr » de , on this ucc lH \ in ho warmly approved , of the Bill ; fie possessed no mifss'ny shares , and he hated th « very name of railroads , all of which he considered dangerous , iitlusive , guitihUnz , and uui » stisfaotory speculation . Private property uiust encciliBO to public good . Dalays were clangerous , ami the Qn * vernment mnsfc V >«« a * ii of man-traps and spring-gnns .

      Mr . Labouchere admitted tbe difficulties of interferfnee , and of vesting powers in the Board of Trade which we" were accustomed to sts exercised by private individuals But he did not feul these objection * so strongly as others did ; while th « interests of the pnblio were consulted by tho Bill to en extent whiob . more than counterbalanced any apprehended evils . Its pos $ « ponemsnt would not augment thr chances of its b ^ inj carried next session , and the House was as competent now as hereafter to decide on its principle . Lord Sandon had come down with a bias sgainst the bill , but the explanations of Me . Gladstone , late and lengthened as they were , bad induced him to acotde to the second reading . Mr . Maj&k Philips conld not apTee to a measure which would place , either now or hereafter , our railroads the creation of private enterprise and skill , under the control of the Government .

      Mr .- Parker also objected altogether to this system of delej ? ting to the Government pawers of interference with grsat mercantile undertakings , on the faith of unread evidence and undigested reports . Mr . SiUEL asked if tbe Dublin and Cashel railway " would be affeotert by tha bill ? Mr . Gladstone said it would effect all future railways . Mr . Sheil then said that the fihweholdera had subscribed tbeir raeney without any cognizauca of the intentions of the Board of Trade . If passad , it would check railway enterprise in Ireland . There were two thousand miles of constructed railways in Enphad , which would be « xerap : * d from the operation of the bill ; in Ireland only five , th « Dublin and Kingstown ; and they would therefore cover the face of tbe country with anomalies . He was afraid of augmenting tbe patronage of the Government : the Board of Trade was very near tbe Treasury .

      Mr . Cardwell was concerned with th « Dublin and Cashel Railway , tbe bill for which was not yet carried through Parliament , and therefore its promoters would have no injustice to ooraplain of . In ordinary cases trade was best left free , for competition was its ultima ratio ; but tbis did not apply to railways , and , & 3 a monopolist by nature in common with all men , he called upon the public to watch monopoly with jealousy . He therefore hop « d that no indiscriminate opposition would be offered to the bill , which , without injustice to railway pr ^ rietors , was calculated to be eminently beneficial' to that great portion of tbe com * muuity who have not yet eDJoyed their benefits .

      Mr . Francis Baring did think that at this late period of the sssaion so important a msasure tbouM be postponed . They were not justified , except on actual necessity , in interfering with private speculations ; bat when the necessity existed , it would justify interference with existing as well as future railways . Bat the Bill would not prevent tbe evils it professed to be intended to enre . It being past twelve o ' clock an adjournment of the debate was moved , wfr ' c *\ bein ? opposed , a division took place , when it was rejected by 175 to 63 . Mr . HlNDLEt than addressed the House agaiust the bill , when the adjournment was again moved . Sir Robert Peel regretted that the minority did not dfcfer to so iarge a majority , and come to a decision on the second reading of the bill . However , after some conversation the adjournment was agreed to .

      Lord Eliot moved for leave to bring in a Bill te continue for one y « ar the Act , 2 nd and 3 rd William IV . intitled an Act to restrain , in certain cases , party processions in Ireland . The Bill -was only to extend to next June , and he bad hopes that ultimately they would be enabled to do away with the Bill altogether . Mr . M . J . OConnell expressed his satisfaction at the Bill being limited iu its operations to so short a period . Leave was then given to bring in a Bill ; and the House adjourned at half-past one o ' clock .

      Tuesday , Jdlt 9 . The House of Commons met at twelve o ' clock , noon , and after disposing of some routine business , proceeded to he-ir counsel ( Mr . Hill ) against the second reading of the Sndbury "Disfrar . chisttnent Bill . The Holicitor-Gsneral . then advecatsd th * bill , which was rea < t a second time , and the House at three o'clock adjourned till five . At the fiva o ' clock meeting , Mr . Christie brought on the sufrject of the Dim ' sb claims , anrt v ? as supported by Mr . Hume , Colonel Sibthorp , Mr . Hawes , Sir Charles Napier , and Mr Mun'z The CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER and Sir Robert Pell bo \ b contended against , the validity of the claims , anil expressed the determination of the Government , back « d as they were by legal opinion , to resist tbtm . ' .

      On a division , Mr . Christie ' s motion was rejected by 72 to 68 . Tho narrowness of the majority raised a burst of cheering from tbe Opposition benches . Tbe bext matter wns a motion by Mr . Liddell for a select committee to Inquire into the depredations of th « dot ? stealers of the metropolis . Sir James Grahvm acceded , and the motion foe the committee was agreed to . Mr . Hnme was ntxt eaV . ed on . His motion was for an adirees to the Cro-wn , praying that the Rv > yal Academy msy be rendered more conducive to the advancement of tfco fins arts , better suited to the spirit and circumstances of the present atre , and more consonant with tho original intention of its royal founder , Gv ' -wpe III . VYhiie he was Epe-fc'mg , the House was " counted out . " r ^ - ^ vo > - ^/ -y r fTlfc i

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      Ai . ABMi > 'a Accident at the Kailwat Station , Glasgow . —On SuHiHjv corning last , about httlfpaat 5 o ' cttr ' -:, an accidc ; , t of an extraordinary and akrmiug nature , bnt fortui ^ toly unattended with loss of Hfe . occurred at tho G ' ar /? ow terminus of the Edinburgh and Glasgow Railway . A train comprising eleven trucks each truck loaded with five or six tous of freestone , hid arrived at the Cowlaira station . The engine was a ^ usual detached , and tha fireman proceeded to perform his duty of affixing a break in front , before descending the incline to the station . For this train , however , three breaks are required , and it hag hitherto been customary , on its arrival at Cowlairs , to send down and bring up tho nceeasary number from the station where they are

      generally allowed to remain after taking down the j * , ood 3 ti ain which arrives during tho night . In this instaaoe , however , it waa found that the train had received too great an impetus , or , in other words , that it had been push ' ed too far forward by the engine ( 8 ovue of ' . he trueks being aomally on the incline plaue ) , ajid that it was getting on way before the two additional breaks camo tip . Tiie single break attacked by thn fireman was rather a light one , and was found wholly incapable of stopping tbe progress the train , which was graduallY acquiring additional momentum . In this dilemma , the fireman jumped off , and placed what are called" scutches" before the wheds ; but owing to the slippery state of the rails these were simply pushed forward without affording

      the necessary resistance . He then threw a « h&m across the rails , with a view to drive one of tha trueks off the line , whereby the progress of the rest might bo impeded . The , chain however , was cut through , and the train began to proeeed with increasing Yelocity . With a degree of courage and presence of -mind highly praiseworthy , tbe fireman , jumped upon the break , and stood by it to the last moment . The rush of the train , heavily loaded aa it was , down the tunnel , now became tremendous . Of course it would have been much , greater , bnt for the single break , which was tightly screwed np ; but oa emerging froai she tunnel at the station , the fireman calculated that the tclocij acquired was not less than a rate of forty miles an hour . The position

      of the poor man at this moment was truly appalling . Of course hia only chance of preservation was to jump cff . This ho did just within a few yards of . the station , and although ho was thrown down and stunned , he nevertheless contrired to escape wun only a few slight bruises . The long row of trucks then dashed with a prodigou * crash right through the parcel cfn > e—a solid stone building—and m « rgiBg into the narrow lane , shattered Borne stones of the building at the opposite side . Providentially no one was either in the office or in the lane at the time , or the couseouencos must have been frightful . destruction of erty is considerable

      As it is , the prop . The first two trucks were completely doubled np and smashed , and the whole interior of a portion " of tha building . through whicn they out th « ir way was rendered a total wreck . We understand that th ©> night watchmau had a very narrow escape , as he had just passed through the lane a minute or two before the accident , in the course of the dayy large numbers visited the eaene of devastation . Workmen , however , have been busily employed in removing the rubbish , and otherwise repairing the damage , and in a few days the baildiug wiU assume its usual appearance . Glasgow Citizen .

      The Will Forgeries . —Very numerous applications have beeii inacie to the Home-office for a remission of the sentence of Barber , who is now en board a convict-ship about to sail for »•»"»« " £ Wales '; but wo can state that -they . have aU been unsuccessful , and we believe there is no "to ? t" £ whatever , to remit any part of tha sentenoe oi Ua . sportation for life . — Times .

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), July 13, 1844, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1271/page/7/