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"REBELLION" IX THE MINISTERIAL X.-: -,- -. . . GAMP.
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1 HE BDEmpEST MEMBER AS » TBE " IShEPSSVEXI I , - WSISIER . ¦ The delates caused by Mr . Dcxcomee's motions relative to the Home Secretary and Lis Posi-oiHce espionage , have l > eenjH-oauctive of more results than a mere exposure of the infamies practised in the "inner , office , " orltf tlie " roving commissioners : " Jesuits thai ai « likely to tell with , good effect On the position of parties in the House , aadlead to a more comprehensive understanding than ias hitherto prevailed of the relationship that ' should subsist between the Minister of the ' , day aid those who act withliini as his " ordinary supporters . " It is well Jmown that Sir Robert Yeel ' s Government is one thatk merely toferafcd by the " predominant interest" — ( thanfes to Lord John Russell for that predominance , who purposely framed tbe Reform Bill to
jeciire it ;}—because they have no other man fit to occupy the post ' of leader . Itisaswellknownthatalmost the entire of the party suspect , dread , nay , evenauE iheisisa whom circumstances have conspiredto force onthemas"lordattdmaster . " Itb ^ asTreUto&wm , ihat . with such feelings as these they have been compelled to do Ms bidding—to swallow all their former docbines totiolatealltheii'hustings' pledges—tosacrifiee thelanded interest at the shrine of manufactur ing advantage—to give up that " protection to agri . culture , " which they held to be indispensable , and to Trade ¦ with the expedieney-mongering Minister ihroigh the mire of jfbee-thibeism , to the enactment of Sew Tariffs , and the passing of Canada Corn Bills ; in which everyprinciple on ivhicb they , had prided themselves throngh . life was -violated , and roted to lie unsound and besisccuve ! It is well-known also
that this same high and haughty party have felt themselves so bound to the Minister they detested , — Dound from a fear that the Whigs in name should come "in , "—that they obseguiously and spaniel-like Grouched before him on two memorable occasions , and did his insolent and dictaorial bidding , whence ondisguisedl y " ordered" them to cat tMr ivords , aadnESCEfED IHEJB HECOKDED VOTES : All this is now matter of history ; and it Sad naturally produced a feeling of ineffitble scorn and supreme contempt for the Lord Johns and the Lord Charles of ihe most haughty aristocracy in the world , who , 3 AESG the plebeian son of a mere cotton-spinner ,
bowed their necksso abjectly to the servile yoke , and licked the feet of the man they so heartily despised . True , tiiis degrading course has not been pursued -without some little murmuring on the part of some 11 ftho had been scat to-swell a Tory majority ; " and there were even signs of mutiny apparent on the Treasury Benches , when the peremptory " call" to re-dud votes was made on the '" ' ordinary supporters of Government . " It was , however , reserved for Mr . Dcscombe ' s recent motions to ftn . the incipient jfiarim / inio open rebeixiox : and it is for the purpose ofpirttingthe reader in possession of the facts rela
-Jing . tothe nolle and independent stand now made aeaiust Ministerial insolence and debasing requirements that we now write : a stand which is sase to lead , eventnaDy , not . only to ihe overthrow of Sir Roeeki Peel ' s Government but also to the breaking ap of party and faction as mere party and faction , SBd induce a feeling of independence in spirit amongst Members of Parliament , which will inevitably lead to independence uf nttim . Tina " BEBELrjns , " therefore , Is one that should be hailed by the people as the harbinger of better days and letter deeds ibrihem .
It will naturally be expected that at js the Yoetg EsGUsn party who have thus thrown off the Ministerial livery : fcr from the party who had the manliness to protest against the dictatorship of Pxel , and to rtatly refuse to do his insolent bidding , could such a course as that of open hebeuiox against his iron paitr-rale alone be expected . The other portion of Peel ' s " ordinary supporters" showed ileinselves too abject and too servile ever to permit a ray of hope in on the mind , that they would raise the standard of eebeuuos against « ny demand or requirement , how ever abasing . That natural expectation is the true one . ¦ It is the Yoevg Exglaxd section of the House that have "come out" against the haieb Minister
and asserted the independence of Members , even though seated on ihe Ministerial aide of the House , from such eontroul as has lately been attempted to be cserciscd-ovsr them :. and that bold declaration of udeeesdesce has also drawn Jroni the Minister himself a counter declaration of . his independence of ' "kis " party ; a distinct intimation , that in future he will joffow the bent of Ms own indhiation , leaving those who haxe and serve him to follow , or not , as the ? list ! Therefore all parties howknow their rela tive position in the House : a Jaiowledge which renders their duties to themselves and the country far more onerous than before ; and for which knowledge we are indebted to the debates andexplanations ihai Mr . Dbscombe has been the means of raising .
On the Srst niglit of the present session that Mr . Bc . m : ombe introduced the Post-office infamies , and showed that flic Secret Committee , appointed to ¦ "duiewssh the Government , had evaded their duty . Sir JioBEur spoke in a very bitter strain of the reaewed attack on his Government , after what he called " a ihll acquittal" had been pronounced by lis own-appointed Secret Committee . Contrary to his expectation , the debate was adjourned ; and on die second evening ,. Lord Howick , having cunningly discovered that there were grounds on wllicu the 33 ^* - could support Mr . Docomee against the Ministry , without involving themselves in an open inquiry as to their own practices , moved an
amendment on Mr , Dcscombe s motion ior a S&ect Committee to inquire into the whole question , to the i rffect that the inquiry should be confined to . Mr . Dc . vcohb £ * s individual case . v This amendmentone very likely to meet with the general support of "her Majesty ' s opposition , " and of those who were too independent to commit injustice on an individual Member to serreaconfidence-violating Government , — ¦ was seconded by Mr . D'Isiueu , the talented leader of theYoesc Esgl&sd section . In the eonrse of his remarks , hetlius alluded to the ilLat-ease exhibition ^ lueh Sir Kobehi Peel had made on the previous evening : and thus laid down the grounds on which lis vote , and those who acted -with Mm , -would lie Voided arctinst the Government : — "
I come uow to the political circumstances and considerations which formed the second head of las defence . Tie Might Hob . Gentleman will pardon me for observing it , but Le displayed on that occasion an ^ airasual wannfh . I" Bear , " and a langli . ) I sun aware that it 35 no means follows that the Bight Hon . Gentleman felt it . ( Laugh gr . ) The Right Hon . Baronet has too great a mind , and tils too eminent a position , ever to lose M 3 temper ; out in a popular ¦ assembly it is sometimes expedient to enact ilie part of the choleric gentleman . { A laugh . ) * The fli ght Hon . GenlleiEaa tonched the red Ijgs with emotion . ( A laugh . ! Itaiowironi old csjwrsecce thai—hea one
Srst enters the House , these eshihitionf are rather aJarm-^ £ g : aad I beilierefliatsonie of the vdimger members were nuch iiishtcned ^ laughter ); hut I advised them not to he tenined . I told them that the Bight Don . Baronet irogd not sat them up , would not e * -efl resign ; tie very virit tthyj ~ would do icvM Tx to tffl &ssi ioritchid a tote . { Loud ch « ai >!^ an-J floats of laughter . ) * The Bight H « ju . Cc-ntleman favoured us ¦ with Ms views < si ihe qnes-= vn , legs ! and pufitieaL I don- ' t wish is compare Imall ^• ¦^ s with jri-at , but it is not very long ago when the 3 <> a « c iKas iavoured bv a gendsiBaa son ihe aster coun-*"? iih a speech in favour of tlie inotane tss , ivhieh oecaamcd conaticraDle comment and ajaoaon . ( "Bear ,
f ^ a , aud alaagh . ) Xow , Imurt say , tliat nadit not ° « a iW ihe q > eech of the Right Hon . GentleiDan , I wont 2 ? ^ shoald not l » ave had the motion « the Hon . Mem-™ -, rut I havo a gwait saspicion that we shocld not have ^ sen favoured \ nth the ainendnicnt of the SoWe Xord the - * = nltrfar Sandtrland . ( Hear , hear- ) Bet after the ^^ h u die Right Hon . Sentltanac— after having as-^ td as that in 18 t 2 the country was in a state of great JMaiaotion , —after hanngtold as of the heary responaoiiig wjiich ihen devolved on the Government , —after his ^ -S rtstl e ^ leBCfe vhicj ^ j , ^ me ^ not receive * t credit it has snee ohtained ( cheers ) , —after the Bight that
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MNPHaaiHaMiwMaHMi ^^^^ MiMSwiii perfectly sincei-e should cause . any ebullition , of such a chaiactt-r . . ( Hear . ) I hare , I repeat , no jiersoual fetling against the itight Hon . Bai-ouet , I should think : no one on this bench had any personal feeling against the KightHon . Secretary ., The pei'sohal feelings which do esist in this debate , as mentioned hy the Eight Hon . Secretary at War , are a Cahinet secret . ( Hear , and a laugh . ) The Right Hon . Gentleman at the head of the Government -mill not , I am sure , be offended at our giving an independent rote on the present question , \ ipon whatever side of the House we may sit . The Secretary at "War says that it is not a question of confidence . ( Hear , hear . ) A or does any one seem to think that it is . ( Hear , hear . ) As for the First Minister , lie is superior to all parties—he governs hy , pure reason , not hy party .
( Cheers and laughter . ) , With regard to the secret committee , we know it consisted of gentlemen whom -we all respect , and we beliere that they ^ performed their duty : bnt we regret that the House did not animate them to do more than they did . ; The circumstances brought before us at the time , though not in the shape of the original motion of the Hon . ilember for Finshury ,, were deeply interesting to the country , and . we might , trader such circumstances , to use a common , expression have "hit the nail on the head . " , It is / useless for a Minister of the Crown to say , " The committee gave us a verdict . " Xohody accuses the Minister . ( Hear , hear . ) But something has happened which has put us for a moment hehiud the scene , and led us to think that the manner 'in wMch the play is managed is
not the most advantageous to the public , v-n hat happened to the -Right Hon . Gentleman might hare happened to another Minister , and , if it had , 1 hope , the question not being a party one , that at whatever sine of the House we sat , - we would have done our duty . ( Hear . ) We are in the third year of a Walpoleian Administration . ( A laugh . ) Party feeling is extinct , and if we find a great injury and Injustice to the puhlic exemplified in an instance of one of ourselves , let us not hesitate to come forward and take advantage of existing circumstances to put an end to it . The Hon . Gentleman opposite has made an accusation—a very distinct and definite accusation . As far as I am concerned , I should never wish to see an accusation of the kind partake of personal acerbity . -We , however , know nothing about that ; weonlv
suppose the Hon . Gentleman is irritated at having Ms letters opened . I will not go so for as the Hon . Baronet the Member for the University of Oxford , and say that the Government may open and read all my letters ; hut this I will say , that they may open all my letters provided they answer them . ( Laughter . ) The amendment which the Ifoble Lord has proposed seems to me to meet the exigency of the case . I am quite persuaded that her Majesty ' s Government \ vill on consideration feel tuat it is no defeat , no discomfiture , oh their part to accede to that amendment . It is not brought forward in- a hostile spirit , as they may consider the motion of the Hon . Member for Finshury . It is not brought forward in a hostile spirit ; and , as fcr as I am concerned , it is not supported in a hostile spirit . We are making no attack upon the Government . ( Hear , hear , from SirR . Peel . )
This " move" on the part of thefWhigs aud Mr . JD'Isbaeu , threw new life into the debate ; and it was again adjourned , in spite of the opposition of the " strong GoTerament , " to the following evening . It was then resumed , to the exclusion and postponement of other business : so important did the Minister himself deem it to be . In the course of the evening , Sir Robert Peel , in a tone of suppressed bitterness and evident wounded feeling , which drew upon him the derisive cheers of the whole assembly , thus expressed himself in relation to the speech of Mr . D'Ishaeli * . —
- In the course of last aight the Hon . Gentleman the Member for Shrewsbury declared ins intention of supporting the motion of the Noble " Lord the SlemW for Sunderland . During the speech delivered by the Hon . Geutlesnan , he observed that I had with very great apparent warmth addressed ihe House , and that I had been very emphatic in my action ; yet , although he had heard the charges made , that the Government had been the cause' " of the spilling of innocent blood—that they had fabricated warrants , and exceeded their powers—he uudertook to assure the House that , notwithstanding my apparentfeelmg , * iy warmth was entirely simulated ; that I was acting a part which I found it convenient to actthe part of a choleric gentleman . ( Hear , hear , and laughter . ) It is certainly very possible to manifest great vehemence of action , and yet not to he in a great passion . On the other hand , it is possible to be exceedingly cold , indifferent , and composed in jour manner , and yet to
cherish very acrimonious feelings , ( Loud derisive cheers . ) Notwithstanding the provocation of the Hon . Gentleman , I will not deal , so harihly with him as he has dealt with me . He undertakes tp assure the House that my -vehemence-was all pretended , and . warmth , all simulated . I , on the contrary , will do him entire justice : I do believe that his bitterness was not simulated ( cheers and laughter ) , bnt that it was entirely sincere . ( Renewed cheers . ) The Hon . Gentleman has a perfect right—who questions it ?—to support a hostile motion . It is perfectly open for the Hon . Gentleman to let the debate proceed for two nights , and , finding that the motion is not exactly put in a convenient form , to try to ascertain what is the mode of amen ding it which may be most captivating and convenient . He is at perfect liberty to give a direct support to the motion ; bat all I ask is , that when he gives that support to the motion , do not let him say that he does it in a friendly spirit . ( Cheers . )
" Give me the avowed , the erect , the manly foe ; Bold I can meet , perhaps can turn the blow ; But of all plagues , good Heaven , thy wrath can send , Save me , oh , save me , from a candid Mend . " ( Loud cheers and laughter . ) Here we meet in debate ¦ with our opponents opposite . We enter into conflict with them , mutually attacking and repelling attack adverso fronte . ( Hear , hear . ) When-engaged in that conflict , it is certainly sot very convenient , though it may be unavoidable , to have a blow aimed at your right flank which you did not expect ( Hear , hear . ) Be it so . It cannot be helped ; but all I ask is , do not let your " balm break our heads . "
After the speech of the Minister , in which he refused the inquiry asked at his hands , the House divided , -when the obsequious and the time-serving went into the lobby against Mr . Dc . vcohbe , and by a "tyrant majority" of ninety five refused even the modicum of justice contemplated by LordHowicK ' s amendment . Nothing daunted , however , Mr . Puscombe reintroduced the question on Friday nightlast ; and his metion that the Secretary of the Post-office should be called to the bar of the Ilouse , to answer Wily he had stopped and opened a Member ' s letters / was seconded by Mr . lyisiuEu / in the following eloquent and masterly speech , in -which it will be seen that he pays Sir Robert Peel off with more than interest
for his ungracious attack and his bitter taunts about candid friendship . lie also descants on the true relationship that should subsist between a Minister and his supporters ; and he lays bare tbe system by which it has been attempted to prostrate and annihilate the independence of Members , to reduce them into tbe mere echo of the will and behest of the Minister of the day . The speech was one of the most remarkable , and certainly one of the most able , ever delivered in the chapel of St . Stephen ' s ; and it was received by the Ilouse with such vehement and hearty applause tbat an effectual stop was put to all business for some time after it was concluded . Here the Speech is in full . It will amply repay perusal ;—
Mr . D'Isbaeu . —Sir , the Hon . Member for Finsbury has brought before Hie House his proposition in an intelligible sh-pe . He has laid before the House ( he statement of a personal grievance , and he has distinctly affirmed to us that in caking that statement he makes no personal attack upon any individual . Sir , I should have hardly thought that it was necessary to make that declaration , haditnotbeen for the associations connected with this motion , which , perhaps originated in other debates to -which I myself mean not to refer . If the vase of the last general warrant that was issued by a Secretary of State be compared with the last post-office warrant that was issued by a Secretary of State , I think we may clearly in the parallel discover that no personal imputation need be appealed to in order to vindicate a public right . Sir , there is not the slightest doubt that tbe last general war rant issued by a Secretary » f State was an act of tyranny an act of oppression , an act essentially iniquitous ; but
no one pretends that the Senretary of State who issued that general warrant was a tyrant , an oppressor , a man eminently unjust . On the contrary , Lord Halifax was a very good sort of man . Society under these circumstances steps in and setti' s the rule which decides these questions . It acknowleges that usage is the moral vindication of the Minister ; but while it frees the Minister from anypersonaTkBgma , it does not emancipate'hun " trom the consequence of anillegal act . That is the question which now engages the attention of the House andinteiests thenatipn . ( Cheers . ) -We are not to . seek what may be the cause that has- . brought it . forwards I give the H 611 . CentlejaaR . -wliohas brought it forward credit for the . same purity of motive as the Minister appealed to ; -and I . niust say I-was much surprised that a Minister of the Crown ' sho'oM'ever'teve jrisen ^ in tlriVHouse-aiid said that the question was only prompted by personal motives . ( Cheers . ) The Hon . Gentleman the Member for Finsbury has placed the case neatly and completely before US . He
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says , "Ifiriy letters hare been stopped and opened by the Government , the officevs ' oi" the Crown and V . ost-office have committed a breach 01 privilege , unless they have done so upon the warrant of 11 Minister . " If they have done so , let them produce the warrant ; he will then be in ; a position to appeal to the House and the country ftr a vindication of his character , or to ' the courts of law , to decide whether that warrant is a legal instrument ' or not , ^ Sh-, I am at a loss to comprehend what answer can be given to that . direct : appeal . ' ( Cheers . ) This is the view naturally taken by the Hon . Gentleman in his individual case . He fee ' s the individual grievance—he natutaUy loolis to the individual remedy . All that he wants is the warrant . All that he wants , is an ' opportunity of vindicating his innocence , or allowing - others to prove his guilt . .. ( Cheers . ) Tbelieve that the county requires more , I Believe that the country is anxious that that wan-ant ' should be produced—not merely that it should vindicate the honour and conduct
of the Hon . G entlcman , or thereverse ; but that an opportunity should be afforded to the ' subjects of the Queen , to try ¦ whether that instrument is a legal one ; and how is it possible for any person to have that opportunity unleSB the House interferes , as it is requested in the present instance ? , It is not asked to exercise its prerogative ' and privilege to vindicate any gentleman who'iannot ' vindicate himself by law . The situation of the < H . bn .. Gentleman is that which may be the situation of ^ hyf . member of this Ilouse— -of any subject of the . Que . en ' .. tbJnorro . wi : J 5 ome gentlemen may rise and say that this-is a power that ought always to be at the , disposition of . Government ; some may say that it is disgraceful to this ^ country that foreign nations should'know we exercise it ; aud inkers may rise and state that that can hardly be tbe case since every foreign nation does itself exercise it ; but there is this distinction—though . foreign nations always do- exeiv cise this power , foreign nations never believed itflat England did . ( Cheers . ) It resolves itself into this Question
—are you content to be ruled by a popular . Government , or do you wish to be ruled by a Government of . police ? ( Loud cheers from the Opposition . ) No doubt a popular Government has many inconveniences . Xo doubt it would be much better that the question of the sugar duties , for instance , should be settled without any loss of time . It is-a great inconvenience to' , trade , as tlie Right Hon . Gentleman ( Sir B . Peel ) has often told us , that there should be any discussion on the subject . I don't doubt that if the ¦ question were settled by that HSght Don . Gentleman himself , in his cabinet , it would be equally well , perhaps better . This is one of the inconveniences we endure for popular Government , and so it-is with reference to . the corresponuenceiof individuals . You have a popular Government , you ; have a strong local
system ; you may , by not prying into the correspondence of individuals , be sujected to great calumnies . - You may have Bristol burnt , as Brist * l . was burnt ; you may have Birmingham assailed , as you had . ivaBfiaileu —but tliQ country strikes the balance , It agrees to suffer these great injuries for the sake of a popular Government , instead of a Government of police ; and the country , after all , must decide it . ( Cheers . ) ' Now , sir , I believe that is the impartial view as regards the general question . As regards the country , though sympathising with the Hon . Gentleman who presses the case of his individual wrong , they desire also an opportunity to decide whether this warrant of the Secretary of State is a legal warrant . They wish to have it decided as the question oi general warrants was decided ; and if it he a legal
warrant , then it becomes an open question fit for discussion whether such a power should be allowed , in a free country to subsist . ( Cheers . ) Sir , the Hon . Gentleman who has introduced the question ' to-night 3 eems , in some remarks he has made , to think that' an impartial discussion of the question is impossible in this House . Certainly , when I recollect the last debate , to which I need not refer , I am not surprised , from the elaborate misconceptions of former debates , that the Hon . Gentleman should fear this discussion would . not ba free . Bui I cannot believe , although , the Hon . G entieman fears , that any intimidation is puruosely enacted in _ this House ; but there is notthe slightest doubt that , ' on both occasions now before us , and upon others which have occurred within the last two or three years , ' -there have been
misunderstandings , founded on the misconceptions , perhaps mutual misconceptions , of . the relations that subsist between tne leaders of a party and the -supporters of a party . Sir , I may allude to these circumstances , because the Hon . Gentleman seems to think that on this occasion he is not secure of a fair discussion of this question , and because , unless there is a correct understanding on this head , I almost despair of bis receiving that fait , discussion . ' When the balanced state of parties ceased in this House , it must have been pretty evident to those who had any idea of -the constituent elements of such an assembly , that what we , call party feeling , though for a , sbovt time from custom preserved , would eventually-evaporate . There were very few , if any , party questions ; and it was pretty clear that , in a popular assembly of more than COO
persons , questions would constantly arise in which geatlemen , though sitting on different side * of the House , without compromising the elementary principles of their politics , would very often divide iii the same lobby ; and very , often in discussions take the same side . ( Cheers . ) An Hon . Gentleman on the other side gets up and proposes a motion which , at first Wash , does not seem to call in question any of the marked principles of either partyif two parties indeed still exist . ( Cheers . ) Some gentleman on this side thinks it a legitimate opportunity to express his opinions on the question , —he happens to support the motion , —tbe'Government barely attend to the debate—treat it , perhaps , with indifference or carelessness ; the debate trails on , comes into a second night : cerUun circumstances occur which-portend" a division ,
which I will not say might be embarrassing— 'that would be impossible—but disagreeable to the Government . Immediately this takes place a certain system is brought into play , which may prevent , perhaps , ; that fair discussion the Hon . Gentleman would seem to ' despair of , and which I can hardly believe can long he permitted tosubsist in this House . Sir , it seems to' me that the system is established on two principles , ^ or rather proeesses- ^ - inuendo and imputation — the insinuation of base motive , and the allegation of factious conduct , ( loud cheers from the Opposition benches . ) Generally it developes itself in this manner—there are some indications of irritability on the Treasury , bencli—{ a laugh )—almost immediately followed by some imputations among the immediate adherents of tlie Government ;
and then , as I have observed m several debates , some gentleman gets up—an avowed adherent , or perhaps a secret supporter of the Government—and instantly we have imputations of mean motives , of personal motives , I should say of corrupt motives ' , against' every gentleman who is perhaps speaking , or about to vote , in opposition to Government , although the question may not be one that involves any party principle or any decided principle whatever—a mere matter of practice and detail . Now , Sir , in this state of affairs , probably at the end of the second or third night oftfebate , when a course so injurious has naturally produced acerbity In many quarters , perhaps expressions of that bitterness the sincerity of which is not doubted —( cheers and a laugh ) -rtheri , at Ac right moment , the Eight Hon . Gentleman ( Sir R . Peel )
rises to cap the climax , arid probably , having just been assured by one of his aide-de-camp that he is secure of a greater majority than ever , he makes a passionate appeal to his supporters ; as if the strong Government were in the very throes of dissolution , and uses language which , 'in my opinion , is susceptible of only one interpretation ' -ithat some gentlemen on this side of the Ilouse would , to , embarrass Government , descend to political collusion and Parliamentary intrigue , ( Cheers . ) Now / Sir I protest against the system . ' ( Cheers . } The system is not founded in justice or fair play . ( Cheers . ) It is not founded upon a real understanding of tbe principles ' on which party connexion should exist . It is , in fact , a system of tyranny , and as degrading ' to those who exercise it as to those who endure it . ( Cheers . ) I take a recent case , because fresh
in our memory . ' When the Hon . Gentleman ( Mr . Duncombe ) the other night called our attention to the instance of his grievance , he brought forward a motion which , on the face of it , every one must see would be opposed by ihe Government that exists and the Government that preceded them . It was therefore taken out of the category of party questions . There was a general impression in the House that it was extremely desirable that the decision of the committee shoald be supported . That impression was not peculiar to this side of the House . An Hon . Gentleman , the Member for Hull ( Sir J . Hanmer ) , the independence of whose character is , I believe , universally acknowledged —( cheers)—who is certainly as incapable of political intrigue as any gentleman in the House / spoke in the
debate without concert or combination , forming his opinion merely on the statement of the Hon . Member for Finsbury , and being himself particularly inclineu to support tlie decision of the committee ; but he thought it was impossible that this individual instance of the Hon . Member could be passed over . He expressed his opinion in a frank , manlj maimeT . \\ soYiappened , as probably it will often happen in a popular asR'inbly oi this kino " , that cb--eunistauce 3 change to that d > :: ree that there was a chance of & division—circuKistaue .. * not embarrassing , but probably more disagreeable to the Government 'than they ai first anticipated , if they coniioscended to . thivik of a oivision iii the first instance . Well , immediately all the
powers of the system were put into action . ' ( Clicers . ') The Right Hon . Gentleman was brought forward to sanetio ' n it by his great example . The division is called for . Gentlemen were brought up from the country to support an endangered Government that never \ vas in periJ ^ anil agpri . a ^ great party triumph , ^ vlien ' there wasnot a'fingle patty principle ; it stake , -no ' single party principle- in danger . ( Cheers . ) Now , Sir , I reaUy think there . ' oujjlit ; to be ^ more Uberal sense of party connexion than that which the Treasury hench'it this * moment recognizes ; arid I think that the Bight Hon . Gentleman at the head of the Government is the last Minister who should assume to be a political martinet . I can conceive a Minister in a posi-
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tion in which he requires devotion from ; his party—I can suppose a . Minister haying a , very small , majority—I , can suppose he lioldfipoivei- . iner cV in deference to , the wishes of his party ; he has a right to say to : ius , suppovteys , ¦!' , ' { haye , to fight 4 . yeiy ' difficult game ; . I . would much rather give up power ; stai ; I will hold on ; but you must be ready at all times to support me witii devotion . ' ? . That is not the . position of , the . . Right Hpn ., GenUemau . His . position is quitetfiereyersei jfHe has a yery . largepavty : tosuppoyt hini ,, iintUn opposition before him which , though distin-S ? ^ : ^? Me . S 6 ; by . vei'y eminent . talents , and , numerically , -far fro " m contemptible , is . not , neverthlessi distinguished for ; its . power , . of cohesion ., ( Cheers' and a laugh . ) , The Right Hon . Gentleman is in appsition which really would allow him to be induliront .-, Itis ^ verv eagy
for lam to turn ; round . and , say , " , What ; can , be more treacherous than this—to be attacke&on . thg right flank « I am prepared to meet the foe , before me f no . one . o . ver sawWqua « . ' " ( Ala ^ gets . thatthe foe before : never wished , ip ^ fight him .. ( Cheers and'a laugh . ) ,. '' He inay sometimes be assailed on his right flaWc / but while he boasts of iiis courage and deterhiinatiori to conquer ,, the . Right . Hon . GenHemariforgets tttat the victory'is ' very easy' when nobody-. opposes him . Tliereis another reason why he should hot adopt this tone—he shoulo ^ iiot'forg ' et , " after all , a great many of his supporters were ^ eTected on jhc hustings' under very . ' di& ferent circumstances to those imiier . which they sithere . ( Loud cheers from-tlie ' Opposition benches . ) Really a little philosophical consideration from " so great a
statesman under such circumstancesis the least we might ex . peet ; ( CJieeis . ) I admit that I for one was sent here by my constituents to sit on this side . He ' may object to me , although I think he has no great occasion to object that I am sometimes in a different lobb y to himaelf ; but I was sent to swell a Tory , majority—to support a Tory Ministiy ; . ( Cheers from the Opposition ;) Whether a Tory Ministry . exists oriiot I do not pretend to decide ( alaugh ); bnt I am bound to lielieve that the Tory majority still remains , and . therefore r do not think- that-it is-the majority . that . should' cross the House , but- only the Ministry . ; ( Loud . cheers and much laughter . ) I hope that the Ei ght Hoii . Gentleman , on reflection , will take a more condescending and charitable view of our conduct than he has hitherto been pleased to do . I am sure
myself I never misinterpret the conduct of the Right , Hou . Gentlemnn . I know there are some who think that heis looking out for new allies . I never believed anything of tlie , kind . ( Alaugh . );; , Tlie position of the Right Hon . Gentleman is clear and precise . . I don't believe he is looking to anvjcoalition , ; although many of my constituents dOij TllG Right Hon .. Gentleman , caught the Whigs bathing ; and walked away with their clothes . ( Much cheering aud great laughter . ) He . has left them in the full enjoyment of their liberal position , and heis himself a strict conservative of their garments , , ( Continued eheevs and laughter . ) 1 . cannot conceive that the Right Hon . Gentleman will ever desert his party ; they seem never tp desert him . There never was a man yet who had less need to find new friends . : T , therefore , hope all these rumours
will cease . I look on the Right Hon . Gentleman as a man who has tameil the Shrew of Liberalism by her own tactics . He is the political Petrvehio , ' who has outbid you all , ( Cheers and laughter-. ) If we could only induce the Right Hon . Gentleman , therefore , to take a largcr and more liberal view of his Parliamentary position than he seems to adopt in moments too-testy for so great a man to indulge in , he would spare us some-imputations which I assure him ave veaify painful . If the Right Hon . G entleman may find it sometimes convenient to reprove a supporter on his riglit ' . flank , perhaps we deserve it—I , for one , am quite prepared to bow , to the rod—( alauglil ; but really if the Hight Hon . Gentleman , instead of having recourse to obloquy , would only stick to quotation , lie may rely on it , it would be a safer weapon . It is one he always
wields with the hand of a master ; and when he dots appeal to any authority , in prose or verse , he , is sure to be successful , partly because he never quotes a passage that lias not previously received the meed of Parliamentary ' approbation , and partly and principally because his quotations are so happy , : ( Cheers . ) The Right Hon . Gentleman knows what the introduction of agrcat name does in debate—how important is its "effect , and occasionally how electrical , He . nevcr refers to any author who is not great , and sometimee wJjo is not lovcd- ^ Canning for example . ( Hear , hear . ) TIiatis : aiuunenever tobementioned , lam sure ; in the . House of Commons without emotion . We all admire his genius . We all ; at least most of us , deplore his untimely end ; aud we all
sympathise with him in , his fierce struggk witlv . aupvetae prejudice and sublime mediocrity—( cheers aad a laugh ) , —with inroterate foes , and with candid friends . ' ¦] ( Loud cheering , ; ! Tlie Right Ifon ' . Gentleman , may bo sure th at a quotation from' such ah authority- will always tell . Some lines , for ^ xainple , upon friendship , written by Mr . Cauningy and ' quoted by . the Right Hon * Gentleman The iheme , the poef , « Jie spcalccr—what a fulicitGMs combination ! Itseffect in'debate " must be overwhelmingand I am sure , if it were addressed to me , all that would remain would be . for me thus publicly to congratulate the Right Hon . Gentleman , not only on his ready memory , but on his courageous conscience . . - \? ( The iron . Gentleman sat ; down amidst loud cheeringi ) ' ;' . . ;¦ \ - >
It was impossible tliat such a speech could be passed over by Sir Robert Peel . The "turning of the tables" on him so completely , as to the quotation from Caxxixg about "candid friendship , " placed liiin ia such an unarviable position before those ^ over whom he " ruled , the-roast , " tiiat it stung him into the following declaration of ins own independence of the Tory party , and into ihe avowal , ' that whether his " ragged regiment" ¦ would march-- - with him through Coventry or not , ' TimouGii CoyuiiiJiY ' he wotiUl go , if it pleased him . to do so : •—';
Here , Sir , Islioiild close if Ihad not heard the speech of the noh . Gentleman who seconded' the motion . 1 do hope , that having discharged himself of the accumulated virus of the last week ; hono ' w feels more atease ' tliiiii he was . ( Laughter and applause . ) If that is so he need not be disturbed by any impressions on hispart , ; thathe . lu > s at all interfered with my peace of mind in consequence of the . iittaek ' hehas made . I ' tell the lion ; Gentleman at once that I will not condescend ; to ' reciprocate personalitiesj with him . ( Loud cheers . )' ' Neither ' now nor after the lapse of , a week- will I stoop to reciproeate them ( rer neiyed cheers )—because . 1 really , feel no incunation for the practice . I also feel , Sir , tbat in this respect the Hon . Gentleman would have a very great advantage over me , because he has had leisure to prepare his attack . I have
often heard from that Hon . ; Gentleman observations , of a very perspnai . nature . upon myself . I have .. often . heard them made from , immediately behind here ( the Government bench ; , but I never felt it at ail necessary to notice them , and I should not have noticedthem the oilier night if it had not been that the . Hon . Gentleman who seconded the motion , of which he entirely disapproved , nad not said he did it in a friendly spirit . . And that alone would not liave induced me to notice him ; but in the course of that speech he charged me with having appointed to office an lion . Gfentlernan who had been , concerned or connected With a plot . . I do . not , however , make any further reference to that , because the Hon . Gentlemanmade afair and ample reparation .., The Hon . Gentleman having been betray ed . into an error , made all . the reparation in his power .
I at once frankly , aver that , and not one word more shall Isay . uponit . . But . it . was that declaration of-the Hon . Gentleman , that he seconded the . motion ., in a friendly spirit ,. whicli made me partake of the feelings which ran through ' tic House , and . which-in the French Chambers are calledmOKiienMiis . diijCi's . , It was really the involuntary expression of a feeling partlypartakiiig of the nature of a shuduer , and partly , of , a laugh , when the Hon . Gentleman said he seconded . the motion in a "Mendly spirit . " ( Loud cheers and laughter . ) I , assure the Hon . Gentleman I have not the slightest wish to fetter his independence , or the independence of any other member of-. this House ! ( Hear , hear . ) . Every man must 1 ) 0 the guardian of bis own independence ; and if . the Hon . Member disapproves either of the acts of the Government , or . disapproves of the
general policy of , the . Government , he must censure . the act , and he must condemn the Govovntikwt . . ' . ' ( Hear , near . ) I have here no rights to exercise by which I can prevent tlie Hon . Gentlemaii from ' exercising that independent action . I court no man's favour , ( Hear , hear . ) I think I do understand , the relations in . which a Minister , ought to , stiind towards Lthpse jivho give , him their general support . ( Hear , hear . ) . I think he ought , . while he possesses it , to be proud of their confidence ; but I think he ought to incur . the visk of losing tbat confidence by taking the course which he believes to be for the public interest . ( Loud cheers . ) That is the . course I have taken ; and that course ^ I will continue to take , ¦ ( Continued eheers . ) :: U you think that any acts of mine are at variance with the yoliey which I supported in tbe year 183 i in Government , or have supported since , let those acts be , examined , vote against them , and . condemn them , ' if , you '' think , in respect to the ehurcli , that any coarse pursued . hy ' the
Government lias endangered that institution , censure and oppose the particular act . K you think we havei at variance with our principles , " greatly extended popular privileges , or -infused the frcshblood Of democracy into thf working of the constitution , tellus so , and oppose ^ '' "H you denounce our commercial or financial- policy , 'oppose the particular act . If the " combination-of'buv " miscon-. dtfet . is . such , that you think we are no-longer ^ entitled to ! confidence , ,. mnrk ( , your rwant of ,. eofadence by '' . " a . public , , declaratKm ofi . opinion . and by jdiirtjnet opposi ^ tiin to us ., ( touil , pheqrs . ) r ; l , sl > puld . r . egrettiie lossjof th . at . confidenc ^ to *« &jift \ HQn . ( jl . entieman refe but I jfreely . say that , as :. the ^ Minister . . " , of ¦ , tiie > Cro > vn , I will ; attempt to do good as far as I can , and if , in attempting to . accomplish . that ,. ^ . forfeit the confidence whiph J havc , Bo muchpnztd , I wiU adopt that course rather than ' retain confidence at the expense of the public good . ( Cheers !) If , as I said before , our general policy is objectionable , if it 18 not Conservative , if we are injuring the ris ht * of pro-
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perty or the prerogatives of the Crown , if we are urnler . mining either ' civil or sacred 'institutions , 'prove that \\ t > have done so , and withhold your confidence fronv us . ( Cheers . ) -The-llon . Gentleman 'has referred to the relations in - ''which ' ; I stood to the late Mr . Canning ; ami he thinks upon that account he isfairly entitled to withhold his confidence ' and respect from me . ( Hear . ) > Sir , it ought not to need a quotation from ' a poem of Mr . . Canning ' s to open the Hon . Gentleman ' s eyes to my misfortune ,: ' The Hon . Gentleman must be ' perfectly a ware , in the year 1841 , and subsequently , of tliose -relations towards Mr . Canning , and of the course I have pursued with regard to that ihost ' eniinent and distinguished man ; and the knowledge of that eourseVand not an accWentnl
• lao ^ fion from a poem , ought toihave , entitled me to the Hon . . Gentleman ' s confidence anui'espect ata much earlier period . ; . ( Hear , ana cheers . ) -But , as I said before , it is not my intention-to ^ eciprocate personalities with the ¦ lion . Gentlemen . I ' donot \ rish in the slightest degree to fetter bis iriaep ' endence , ' 6 r the independence of any other man who may " sit upon this , ( the Ministerial ) side of-the House ; but again I repeat , that being in the position which I hold , I . will pursue tliat course which I believe to be for the public interest ; - and if , in the course of puvsuing it , I , subject myself to the , Hon . Gentleman ' s vituperation , or to the much heavier penalty of diminished confidence upbii the part of others , tbat penalty I am ready to pay , arid submit to the consequences . ( loud cheers , during which theltigMHon .-Baronct resumed his seat . ) ¦ -. .
There , ! . Thus the matter stands ! Young E \ giand is in . open rebellion ! Sir Robert has snapped his fingers in the face of all Ills " supporters ; " he . has , in effect , told them that he Tmmvs he is hated by them ; that he is merely tolerated ; beca \ ise they have nobody else ; that he will make the . most of lus position ; that he will pursue Iris ow . v course , 'totally irrespective of , their wishes or the wishes of their constituents ; that they may follow him or not , in lm pbbe thade travels , just as they please ; but that if they don't , he will place himself at the head of the Whigs , and lead them on against the "jpredominant interest " of the e ounti-y ! Such is , in effect , the meaning of Sir Hobert Peel ' s speech : and ' iov the elicitation of this exposition of the present position-of parties we have to thank Mv . Dvscomee .
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; SPAIN . ¦ , DiSTURBAXCES . —Madrid journals of the 23 rd of February annonncethat a military riot had occurred . at Valencj < a , tetween spme artillerymen and soldiers of the regiment of Lerida , and it was thought that a severe example would be made . The violent declamations from some pulpits had excited tbe attention of Government . - ; ; . Intrigues of Christina . —The Madrid journals of the 25 th ult ., although they do not bring news , show thatnavty spirit is alive in that capital . The late conspiracy at Vittoria was not , as 3 t is now avowed , eitlietv Garlist ov Eapavtevist ; but if we . are to credit
the rumours abroad , Absolutist , for a new watchword has been added to the list . At the head of this latter party , is saidto . be the Marquis de Viluma , sustained oy the Queen Mother , who wishes * to discmbari'ass'hcvselfof Nawaez . Through the mass of suspicion , invention , and intrigue , of which the Madrid journals bear such" marks , it is difficult to arrive at even the semblance of truth . The Castellano predicts another revolution as the consequence of the reactionary measures of the . Government , of which the Church Property Restoration Bill is taken as the sign . The Spanish Government had resolved upon sending a small expedition to Monte Video .
' SWITZERLAND . Opexixg op t oe Swks Diet . —Zukich , Feb . ' 24 . — " This - morning , "'at nine o ' clock , the opening of the extraordinary session of the Diet took place , but without the ; ceremonial which is usual on such , occasions . Tlie prodigious number of persons in the streets adjoining the HStel-de-Ville testified the interest that the population take in the grave matter which ; has caused ' this extraordinary meeting of the -federalasscmbly . The verification , of credentials preceded the opening speech . Those of the deputation from Vaud gave rise to a sharp discussion . The head of the ultramontane deputies , M . Siegwort , the representative of Lucerne , opened the matter by contesting- thejright of M M . Drney and Briatte to sit in the Diet . To recognise them as deputies of
Vaud would'be , he said , tosanction the revolution of that canton . Tins opinion was shared by the deputies of the cantons of' Uri , Unterwald , Schwys , Zug , Friburg , and the Valais . They declared that tlie credentials could not be any longer in force , since tlie body which delivered them no longer existed . According to the deputy of Neufchatel , the deputation of Vaud could , not present itself provided with credentials separated irom instructions . The deputies of the liberal cantons opposed the opinion of the ultramontane deputies . In their opinion , Vaucl being provided with powers perfectly regular as to the required form , " the Diet had no right to demand more ; for , if it had to reject the deputation under pretext of having , violated a cantonal constitution , what conduct would it hold with respect to the
deputation of a canton which had violated the constitution infinitely move , that of the Yalais ? As to instvuetions , an order of the Diet of 1834 had decided that the deputies were responsible ^ nly to their own cantons . Tne first ' deputy of the canton , of Vaud present spoke , very ; strongly against the pretension to exclude him and Iiis colleague from the federal assembly , when provided with powers perfectly regular . If - tbe powers sv-hich he held from the Grand Council did not please them , he could , he said , exhibit those which hadbeen handed him by the provisional government . H 6 wastherefor . eperfectly regular both inprineiple . and form , " and did not suppose thatthe wish was to coriiplieate the present situation still more / pregnant as it Vfas with tempest , by a decision which , by excluding the 'deptities of Vauil from the Diet , would
irritate : to the highest pitch the people whom they represented . ' Sonie deputies , ' tlibse df . Bale-eity , for instance , ' recommended a middle course—to allow the 'deputies to take their seats , but without having any right to vote until the Grand Council oftheh canton had been recognised . Had a vote been proceeded to'itt . ' encej no result woulfl haye folloived , for eleven deputies and a . half had pronounced for the admission , and twelve' are necessary , to give an absolute majority ; seven and a half had pronounced for absolute exclusion , and three had adopted ah intermediate line . In the supposition that a half vote could be detached 'from the minority—that'of Bale-city or Appenzell—if the vote were postponed t ' a the next day , 'the deputy of Berne formally proposed that couvse , which Svas adopted without opposition , so 1
much did all'the members of theDiet dread an irrevocable decision . ' The Vorortcomnmnicatedto the deputies the Earl of Aljerdeen ' shote to D , 11 , Morier , Esq ., the British Minister . His lordship expresses the deep regvet of her JJajesty ' s Govemihehfat the receipt of MiVMericr ' s dispatch respectiiig the recent disturbances , but announces that it doeB not feel called upon to pronounce an opinion with regard to the causes which may have produced the events narrated by him . Respect for tbe nationality and independence of the canton would deter her Majesty ' s Government from any interference in the internal affairs of Switzeriaud ; but the continuance of the present disorders ' might ( it is hinted ) lead to consequences which Swiss patriotism would naturally object to .. His lordship concludes Iiis note
( of which the foregoing Ja merely a hasty andincom-r ykte analysis ) by empowering Mr . ; Morier-to lay it before the President of the Helvetic . Confederation . . The following passage from the ' / wwA Gazette has been copied . into several Geiinan , papers ' : ^ - " A diplo- ' matic cpirimuiiication , transmittetf by the English envoy to the President of the Helvetic Confederation ( M . Mousson ) , has caused excessive ( ntbergrosse ) joy ( . amongst the Conservative circles of our city ; but , on the other handj ; has been coldly enough received by the remaining portion of the , public , as . they , discern in it only the system of the Vororti whiclv ' seta all kinds of , extraneous udangers . in the foreground , tvhereby . thosewith which we . are . threatened on . the side of the , Jesuits are concealed .. : ; This mode of proceeding has not , been responded'to by . Switzerland . ' A Zurichfetter . oftlieZSthsayat—'' TheDLot /; has tliis day . in ita second sitting ,-admitted the deputies ofthe Vaud by . ajmajowty of twelve . and a . lialf to
nine ,-, fa . j Uri , Untevw ^ ld ,-, Z ; v » g ,. St .. Uall , ; : Yaiai 8 , Noufchatel , Fribm ^ j . SchwitZ i . and Lucerne !" , < . v .... f-i . The ' Universal Suriss Gazette lm the'foUowing-froni 'Binu-, Feb . 25 : — " We areassured that the General ofthe Jesuits at ^ Romeihas . resolved tq . supprpss the Jesuits' colleges in . Switzerland , , in ordeiv to . prevent , the civil war which is menaced by the ; presence , ol the Jesuits in thi 8 countiy _ . " ,.. . ,. ^ ,. Tj .,-. ; ' , The , foll ^ o ' is ^ from ; the correspondent , of the Vi& ' - ^ T'AwfeAsw' ^ BBV 27 . ^ We ^ l are " here ' m the SpaVe % ^ d 0 % fQUr ^ ofwlu ' eli areex « ctiy ; sucll ,. ! ts . ; l .. foretold in my lastturned by lmmenigemajOntieB ; and that the Conservatives have ho chance except in a few smll places in the country , or where the opposite party choose to allow them W come in . TOU KIIOW that in thia can-
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^ T ^ M- <^ cM-7 ^ S&P tflisi ^ ^~? t . i / 2 ^ / ton we are blessed with the enjoyment of uhhoisi , suffrage , so that there is no , means : of , P 8 pp . s ) n » -ihf ^ ; will of- the . mob , when their , heads have ; been , heatuji . . , or turned by any . political . circunistaiice 8 ; l . or . by any [ \ populai ' ciy , as . is the . case . just now . ; . ( , ; , ¦ ,- „ : „;; , < * ,-- f \ ¦¦ ' TBE'Discyssio . Ns v \ ^ he Dip , 7- The , discussion ,.: Iii theSWis ^' fh ' et oh ; the . question of thfti [ e ? uitscora j ; mencedion tlie 27 th . ult . ,, After the Chancellor , p ' f . tlie / , \ Diet had inade a communication of ; the petitions ,., ; ^^ signed by 120 , 000 , pei ' sousi tor the expulsion , of tllgr ) V ^ i Jesuits , M . 2 s euliatis > , onc ofthe deputies tram Berne , ;;; : % and who is regarded . as the ' ¦ . chief . of the liberal par ^ v , -r { opened the debate , 'tie began-by obsiCi ^ iag-. that it ; was . tlie business . and duty of the Diet , i , O ; pi'Ovide for „ . tie internal and extcrnalsafety of Switzcrjaiid , and / then proceeded to * attribute the presen t . cQinmotion in .-., that country . to the . intrigues of the Jesuits and their .: par tisaus .. lie described the Jesuits ( langeroiw tO ^
. as . -, xne , swte-r-htst , because > yith t } , e 3 r avstcm of morals ^ , I ?^ j i ? ^^ h ^ commit . tranquiHy ' the most ^ , culpable acts ; secondlj ; , because they profit by their ' . ecclesiastical character to introduce troiible and divi- . sion mto fomiheaj thirdly , because the order of : Jesuits mculcates Wind and ^ assivc submission , and ' thus kys prostrate the human' mind ; fourthlv be- : cause , tavrng neither family ; nor . social relations ' Mic ' Jesuits can nolonger . be good ' wtiMins r telv ! V , .. cause they are constantly aimiu ' g ' at power witl .- ' -ur . ¦' compiuietion as to the ' ' nieaiis . ; and , sixthiy , ' because , as regards Switzerland ^ the principal ' ¦ object of the order is the extirpation of Pvo-; qstantisiu . M , Kciihaus coacluded . by mding his instructions from his canton , which were to de- ' mawd a decree for the expulsion' of tlie Jesuits from ' every part of Switzerland . M . Nejidiaus' was followed by M . Sipgwart , deputy from Lucerne . This - gentleman denied the Jesuits were t ' . ; i > cause of the
existing- agitation , and ascribed it to the irritation produced 111 the . minds of the Catholics . by the sup- ' pression of the convents . He 'declared ; in' the name ' of his canton , that it would not subscribe to any of the chimrical , ideas . about the . influence of ' the Jesuits , and would not revoke the decree which had , ) ocn issued in thqirfavouiv The deputies of Uri , -, bchwyz , Unterwald , Zug , and Fribsurg , defended the Jesuits , and asserted that all that had been said , against them was mere ' calumny . The ' deputy for boleure , M . Munzinger , said that"I \ e vepvosented a tathohc canton , but he was nevertheless instructed to demand the expulsion of the Jesuits , for ' the clergy of his canton were enlightened , and opposed to the charlatanism of that order . He stated that his instructions were voted by three-fourths of the Grand Council ,. supported by ? , GGO petitioners , whereas , for
the acceptation : of the constitutionof the can ton there " , were only G . 000 petitioners . This fact , he thought , ' would show the state of public feeling on the ques- ' tion of the Jesuits in Soleure . Aftur he ; uing the . ' ; deputies of GJaris and Outer Apperacll , who agreed ' With the deputy for Berne , the Diet adjourned until tlie following day . Later and Important News . —Decision op the Diet against the Jesuits . —On the 20 th of February the debate on the Jesuits was resumed ; and , after much discussion , a vote was taken on the main ' question , which was decided against the Jesuits . ¦ Ten cantons and two half cantons voted that tkequcslion should hecom f&deml , and that the Diet should pronounce the expukmi of the order we only from Lucerne , but from the whole of Sivitzerland . ' Eight cantons and two half cantons voted that the question should be left for the decision of each individual canton . . ,
INDIA AND CHINA . OVERLAND MAIL . —IMPORTANT XJStt'S . oT ^ rcceivei 1 by the present mail is of the 18 th of December irom China ; 23 rd of January from Calcutta and Delhi ; 24 th of January from Madras ; and 25 th , from Agra ; and from Bombay to the lat of February . ' . , The LvsuRBECiroy in Kolapore and Sawunt Warreo continues unsubdued , although 10 , 000 men are in the field for * the purpose of suppressing it . Three British officers have , in the course ofthe month , been slain by the enemy . The roads are . everywhere blocked up , and robbery and plunder universal .
Glory !—Fate op the Hiem . As » Soi , » iEns is Scinde . —The most important intelligence from Scinde refers to the sickness amongst the Highlanders . ¦ The wreck of this unhappy regiment arrived at Hyderabad from Sukkur , whence they had ben removed for the benefit of their health on £ fcw Yesr ' sday . Ofthe whole regiment one man only was able to vralk to the hospital without assistance . On one occasion ninety-six men had died in the space often days , and seventy had died within a week of their arrival . Eighteen funerals had occuvvwl in the course of twensy-fbur hours . They have lost since the beginning of September , 402 men , thirty-five women , and 120 children—in all oo ? . It is proposed to remove theregiment to Kuwachccfovtlvebenefit of sea ah- —here they arc to share the European Barrack along with her-Majesty's 86 th . Medical men hold out no hope of recovery to the majority until they lavebeen removed as far from the scene of their
misfortunes as possible . Sir Chavtea Napiev , « a the other hand , resists all medical counsel ; he will not hear of the return ofthe sick men to India , for fear of its casting a stigma on the salubrity of Scinde . This is the fourth European corps that has been compelled to leave Scinde from sickness in the course of the past twenty months , ' namely , her Majesty ' s 28 th , entirely disorganised ; a wing of the 2 d Bombay Europeans , scarcely a healthy man amongst them ; and the Bombay Horse Artillery , which regiment has one-third of its men away . Her Majesty ' s 86 th was saved from a similar fate by having been sent in time from Hyderabad to Ivurrachce . Half the Highlanders will leave their bones in Scinde , however speedily they may now be removed , and of tlie survivors not one man in three will ever be fit for field service in India . They will be sent home as incurable invalids , or drop away one l » y one ; so that , of the 1100 men which were on the muster voll of the regiment in October , 1844 , not 200 will remain in December , 1845 .
Sir Champs Napieh has proceeded into the Bhoogtee Mountains , with a force of nearly 5000 men for thepurpose of chastising the marauders , who continually infest our frontier during the hot season . The expedition ¦ is n dangerous one , By the latest accounts they were getting on successfully , the General - himself having arrived at Deyra . Another Revolution in tub Punjaub . —A fresh " revolution has oecuvved at Lahore . Ilcera Singh , the vizeer , his chief adviser Pundit Jella ; with two other sirdars of note , have been slain . Property to the amount of £ 40 , 000 , chiefly in gold and silver , was found in tlie house ofcthe deceased minister , and was confiscated and made over to the public treasury . The entire power is in the hands of the troops , wlio pull down and set up governments at pleasure . Theke have been some disturbances of no great moment in Gopal , near Nepanl and Cashmere . Afghanistan , —The last letters , with news to the 27 th November , make no further mention of the ; plague , from which we may safely infer that its ravages _ have been stayed , at least in Gabool , though it is still prevalent to some extent in the valley of Peshawnr .
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Ashton Misers . —A public meeting of the Coal Miners of the Ashton district was held at Hurstcross , on the afternoon of Monday , MarchSrd . The hardy sons of the mine . proved their devotion to the principles of the Miners' Association by the numbers-that attended . At two o'clock Mr . Wm . Welsbev'was unanimously called to the chair , and opened the meeting witk a few remarks upon the benefits which both masters and men had derived from the Miners' Association . The meeting was afterwards addressed by Mr . Wm . Dixon , of Manchester , and others . The meeting closed with thanks to W . P . Roberts , -EaqL-, ' and the chairman . St . ' Helen ' s Miners . —The Coal Miners of " St . Helen ' s , to the number of . 200 , had a public dinner on Monday last , March 3 rd , provided by Mr . and Mrs . Pigot , the worthy host and hostess of the Colliers * Arms . After the company had done ample justice to the good things set before them , Mr . Tivni . Halgate ' was culled-upon to preside , who / after afew kief vemarks , gave the following toa « t : — "The Miners ' Association of Great Britain and Ireland .- may it win its way , until every miner in the country becomes ' a member , and enjoys the tieiiefits resulting from aa ';[¦ adherence to 5 ts rules . " Mr . Wm . Dixon responded in a-short speech . -Thechairiuanthen ' eave'" Health 1 ; UI
and prosperity to W . P . Roberts , Esq ;; " drunk witlr three times , three . "Success to the advocates of the <¦ -T Rights of Industry ; " drunk with three times three , ' > •' and one cheer more . The . chairman then said , the-. / next , sentiment was one . which he was .. sure every- , person in the room would ' most heartily respond to . ^ y it : was '' Success-to' the-. only representativelof the ' .. sons of toil in the House of Commons , Thps . Slings !) y . ,. Duncombe , Esq ., Finsbury ' s Pride and England ' s Glory'land may the ' Trades' X ' onferen (| e , about to . " nieei ' -on- London ; cinder lus " guittane $ ' be' enabled to '"' propound Some piariSyhiclr ' wilt- . bD ' berieijciM to everv ' "' ; : elass whtflivebylionest 'laboui > . "; ^ riiisSva ^ rcsponileci ' . to'by'th ' e : wh 6 lc company' risinf , \ nn ( l ' in ' osTentluisias- ; ' ' . ticallycheeringforse veralniiiiiites . : Thorranaindor ! : '! of the evening was spei \ t'v .-itU ' songs , "' vecitaii 6 ns , aniV other rational and innocent amiisemeiits . The eo ' ni- '
pany broke up" betwixt ten ' ahd ' eleven o ' clock , lnuhl ^ delighted with the evening ' s entertainments . "" ''•' ¦ [^ ANf ; MiNERs . ~ A ' . iiieeting '" pfthe Ooal-Misers of ' ' Wg&n wa ^ held : oii : the ; 4 th of March , at tho Brewers ; ' Arm £ !? $ , y ^^^ SJm was delivered bv Mv ' ! - ?? ri- ^^^ pn - ' ^ r ^ Dleton ' wiU ' lcetuvc at " the Sfel . ^ in- ^ fe '^ ai-King William Inn ; ' ! 11 th , Fleece Iiin ; 12 tli ; Hope ' and Anchor T > in ' ' 13 th , ^ B ^ - ^ i ^ V ^^^ 'm allin'the ' Wigan ' cli 8 tlW ' ' ;; ' ' ®' l * wvmt" $ - ? ^^ w-P ; 33 asS 3 ££ & 5 f » a ^«^ ffl * rtn ^ MTnn / foFp ' p ^ te ^ of ' etSSE Oe ^^^ the forthcoming Coh'fei ence ;' ^ ThFluWlS ^^ v bets were nominated—Messrs . Kerna , CbWmiW ^^ il Jp ana toto ^ ThG tmk ' the ^ S ^^ i JMr . Kerna by a large majority . : < /^ p ^ i ^ , -f So t / j l ~™ i ;' « * ¦ ; ¦ :-- «; hJ & m ; Xti r : ^ m
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Northern Star (1837-1852), March 8, 1845, page unpag, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1305/page/1/
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