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HOUSE OF LORDS , Mosdat , Jbse 16 . After the presentation of petitions , The Bail of AsEMBHunoved the order ofthedayfor taking into consideration her Majesty ' s message relative to the pension of £ 1 , 500 recommended to be given for life to Sir H . P-ittinger , Bart . The noUe earl observed , that he had already had other opportunities of bearing testimony to the greatmerits of that distinguished person who , on the present occasion , was the object of her Majesty ' s gracious consideration , and he had not been sparing in those expressions of admiration and praise which it appeared to her Majesty ' s Government to be so justly due . Thsse sentiments had found an echo throughout the country ; in every part ef the kingdom the presence of Sir H . Pottinger had been welcomed with enthusiasm , aad every effort had baen made to do him
honour . The real merits of Sir H . Pottinger would have deserved the approbation ofhis Soverei gn and their lordships even if they had been attended with such magnificent commercial results . When Sir Henry went to China he found everything he had to undertake strange and new , and although it was little wonderful that ,-nith the assistance of the naval and military services employed in the war , he hadbeenenabled in no long time to dictate i > c : ic < : at Xanlrin , it was surprising that he should have found tiie means by his character and conduct of so conciliating those with whom he had to deal , as to annihilate the pain of defeat and convert suspicion and hatred into confidence and friendship . Amidst all the difficulties with which he had to contend , it was most remarkable that , whether in the commercial details with which he had to occupy himself , or in the regulations of
administrative government , he had throughout manifested the same wisdom , judgment , and success . Although it hadbeen the object of the Government to endeavour as much as possible to relieve him from all responsibility by furnishing him with instructions calculated to meet any difficulty that might arise , yet much had necessarily been left to bis own discretion , and during the whole course of his services in China there was not an act which did not fully meet the approbation of the Government The noble earl then quoted some details of the successful results of the negotiations with the Chinese in the rapidfly increasing trade of this country with Canton , Shanghai , and Amoy , and expressed the
great satisfaction he felt at the feet that since the condusion of the treaty the Chinese Government had acted with the greatest punctuality aud good feith ; he , therefore , trusted nothing would happen to change such a course of conduct , at least so far as our example could reach . If the trade was to be preserved and extended , as he believed it might be indefinitely , it would only be by a strict adherence to that prudent , liberal , conciliatory , aud enlightened policy which had been adopted by Sir H . Pottinger . The noble carl concluded by moving an address in aaswer to her Majesty ' s message , assuring her Majesty that then * lordships would cheerfully concur in measures to secure the pension of £ 1 , 500 to Sir H . Pottinser for life . ¦ .
The Manmis of Laksdowke seconded the motion , and ttarinly eulogised the character and services of Sir H . Pottinger . He believed if the Government had increased the amount of pension to the highest provision made for Ambassadors retiring from the public service , not one dissentient voice would have been heard in either House of Parliament . The Earl of Ellen-borough thought that while every proper and just tribute of applause was paid to Sirll . Pottiager for his civil services , it was not fair to overlook thcunparallded real , energy , and valour of the officers and men in the army and navy , by which alone he had been enabled to execute the instructions he had received . What he had done in China had not been effected by mere reasoning—the Chinese had been beaten into it by aims . He regretted that no public rewards had been conferred , particularly on Sir W . Parker , who conducted with such extraordinary skill and success the operations in China .
The Earl of Haddingtos reminded their lordships that no time had been lost in conveying to the officers and men engaged in China the thanks of both Houses of Parliament . Sir W . Parker had also received the Grand Cross of the Bath , was created a baronet , and had recently been appointed to the commandin theMedi . tcrranean . TheEari of Emesboeoush explained that he had referred , not to honours , but pecuniary rewards , to which lie thought Sir William Parker was eminently entitled for his great public services . The address was then agreed to nemine contraditmtt . THE HATXOOTII ESDOWSEEK 7 . On the third reading of the Maynooth College Bill , Lord Cjju-beu . strongly supported it , and expressed his earnest hope that the present Government might remain long in office , in order to carry out the course of policy upon which it had entered .
The Bishop of Uakdaff opposed the measure , which was supported by the Earls of EUenborough and Shrewsbury . The Duke of Xewcastli inquired whether the Government had held any communication with the Governor of Malta , with ihe view of countenancing the establishment of a Jesuit college in that island for the education of youth ! Lord Staxiet informed the noble duke that the brother of an hon . baronet in the other House of Parliament bad applied to the Governor for a license to establish a school in Malta for the education of the Roman Catholic population of the island . Such was the deficiency of the means of education in Malta , that the inhabitants were obliged to ssna their children to be educated in Italy ana Sidly by persons not subjects of her Majesty . The question was still under consideration whetheralicense should be granted , althongh he must add such licenses were never refused .
The Duke ot Newcastle wished to know whether the person making application for the license was a Jesuit ? lord Starlet admitted that the gentleman was a member of that body . The Dnke of Newcastle next inquired whether the Government held auy communication with the Court of Home ? Lord Staslst said it was perfectly well understood that we had no direct di plomatic intercourse with the Court of Home ; but there was now , as for many years past , a gemkman employed in Italy connected with the Florence embassy , Mr . Petrc , who was accustomed to carry on some communications with those who held high office in the Court of Home . The Duke of Newcastle , at some length , stated hia reasons for opposing the MIL He avowed his conscientious belief that the Roman Catholic religion was " idolatrous and superstitious , " and it was criminal in the State to countenance it by permanentl y endowing May-Dooth as an ecclesiastical corporation .
The Duke of AVeluscton defended the bill . The college had been endowed b y the Act passed in 1795 . The proposed increase of the grant was rendered necessary by the growth of the population , aad in order to give a proper education to the Roman Catholic priests . He altogether denied that this was an ecclesiastical corporation ; it was an eleemosvuary collegiate corporation . He disclaimed all intention of making this the forerunner of other mea-Eures ; it stood by itself , and it Lad nothing to do with Other measures ; certainly not with any measures to endow the Catholic Church , founded upon the dismember , mentof the Church of England established in Ireland . The Church of Ireland was not only secured by the oath of her Majesty and that taken by their lordships , but by the oatl $ n the Act of 1829 , which he took as the enunciation of a principle , an avowed determinate i to maintain the Protestant Church of Ireland , ne felt satisfied this measure would be found worthy of the approbation it had received from the great majority of their lordships on the second reading .
The Earl of Wicklow supportea the bill , which was opposed strenuously by the Marquis of Breadalbane . The Earls of Chichesies and Rosse severally supported the bilL After some observations from the Earl of Clancarty , The Marquis of Laxsdowke strongly advocated the measure . Their lordships then divided : For the third reading-Content—Present , . „ >> # 194 Proxies ... ... „ , < i # 77 181 Non-content—Present 34 Proves 16 — 50 Majority for the third reading ... 131 "
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HOUSE OF COMMONS , Feiday , Jtoe 13 . "A ? IXC £ BRAWL . " After a variety of questions , domestic , commercial , and political , bad been answered by different members of her Majesty ' s Government , Sir J . Graham moved that the order of the day be read for the house resolvin g itself into a committee of the whole house for the purpose of considering a grant to the academical institutions of Ireland , and upon the question "that the Speaker do leave the chair , " observed , that he had made this motion for the mere formal purpose of obtaining a grant for these new colleges from a committee of the whole house . Mr . S . O'Bwes expressed his disamirobatlon of
the bill , and declared that public opinion in Ireland was most unfavourable to the proposition involved in its tenth clause . All parties were united in the opinion that it was disgraceful to make the appointments to the professorships in these institutions a Government job ; and that such would be their character was evident if the tenth clause passed in its present shape . lie denounced the measure as an attempt to corrupt the intellect of Ireland , and entered his protest against such legislation . Mr . Coixiuhous took Mr . O'Brien to task for the
speech which he had just delivered . As the representative of public opinion in Ireland , Mr . O'Brien undertook to assert that a measure which Mr . Wyse "c ognised in the main as valuable was one which he as JJictawr , or rather as Deputy Dictator of Ireland could not approve . He came fresh irem ConciliationaalL . andmfomed the house that this bill would be l £ < ww ftrfirfl agtetion . B" that were true , ^§ rr ^ sr * - ^ Wd&no& ^ gkd tofind that the Govern-^^ fwthSS ^ ffc ^ institutions t obe vrease otthe partisans of any reKgiouB L
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denomination whatsoever . Those who were getting ; up a cry against them were not representing public . opinion , but the opinion of ecclesiastics . The priests of the Roman Catholic religion , and he was sorry to say the clergy of the Church of England too , regarded with jealousy the cultivation of reason and the pursuit of science and philosophy ; and therefore it was the duty of Government to interpose between them , and to prevent these institutions from being converted into schools of proselytism . Mr . Roebuck quite agreed with the hon . member for Manchester that as this was a pecuniary question , the House of Commons ought not to let a discussion pass , and give a formal vote . The question was , how they were to meet the conflicting opinions of the people with respect to religion ? They could do this in
two ways : either by endowing separate establishments for every religion , letting each religion be taught in its own establishment , or by applying the money of the State to secular education , leaving to ecclesiastical bodies and to the parents of the youth to direct them in the way of religion , out of the walls of the establishment . " The House of Commons have determined on the hitter course , " continued the hon . and learned gentleman , " and how have they been met ? I was startled at seeing the hon . member for Limerick here . ( Cheers . ) I have beon in the habit of seeing in the newspapers , Mr . S . O'Brien at Conciliation-hall constantly appealing to his connexion with the opinions of the people of Ireland —there was nothing like the three tailors of Toolcystreetin this ( cheers)—and declaring that he would never again appear on the floor of the House of Commons . " ( Cheers . ) Mr . W . S . O'BniEK rose and exclaimed—It is a
great mistake . Mr . Roebuck . —If we were to notice every idle speech made in Conciliation-hall , our heads would undoubtedly be filled with sufficient rubbish ( laughter ) ; but I have a right to assume that this house has been assailed , not only in that hall , but by the hon . member in his place in this house . Against the House of Commons an accusation is made to which I recollect . nothing similar , except the accusation of Marat against Roland . The accusation is , that the House of Commons are endeavouring , wishing , and planning to corrupt the intellect of the people Of Ireland . Andhow ? By teaching them mathematics and anatomy and chymistry , I suppose ; and eren arithmetic , and speaking English ( a laugh ) , which I suppose is to corrupt the intellect of the people of
Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) It may do very well for sitting in Conciliation-hall , making propositions that will serve as clap-traps for the moment , to attract vulgar admiration ; but when we come to mete out the measure of truth that is in it , what is its value ? ( Hear , hear . ) Sir , Isay this is a true sample of the accusations that are made in Conciliation-hall against the people of England . In a spirit of liberality , putting aside all our own feelings of religion , combating our own constituents —( hear , hear)—doing all we can as leaders of the people to bribe them to toleration—( hear , hear )—we come down here and meet obloquy in every shape , and risk that which ought to be dearer to each of us than almost every other thing except the truth and his duty—namely , the
love of those who sent liiin here ; and we are met by this " Conciliation" cry , that we are corrupting the intellect of the people of Ireland . I ask , Sir , in what state of corruption or incorruption must that intellect be which could suggest the imputation ? ( Hear , hear . ) "Who sent us here ? The people of the united empire have sent us here , to watch over the interests of that great people whom we now represent ; aud 1 take it to be the highest honour to those Irish members who , like us on the present occasion , have dared to brave the momentary ill-feeling of those who elected them , and I respect them for the great sacrifice they have made ( cheers ); but I cannot undertaud , except I were to search somewhat low for motives , what it is that takes me one moment upon the
stage of Concihation-hall , to do all I can to excite discontent , bitter religious animosity , national hatred , narrow bigotry , vulgar prejudice ( cheers ); and then when I have spit my venom there , fancying that 1 shall be secure , armed as I maybe with the attributes of a member of this house , that I shall come down to insult them by repeating the trash that might have gained approbation upon the stage of that theatre . ( Cheers . ) But let me ask , when we are thus accused , may we not turn round and say , be there no motives that could have led to conduct such as this ? Could it not be disappointed vanity ? Could it not be somo sort of truckling to a superior intellect , under whose fostering care one might have hoped to emerge into something like notoriety ( hear , hear ); unable by iair
one s own auuiiy upon a stage to acquire power , and willing to go into the atmosphere of corruption , and be hatched into something like a butterfly by the foul and _ pestilent influence ? ( Cheers . ) lie who is the leading spirit in that scene , one can understand what he is about . Want staring one in the face , it is of necessity to pander to publie appetite , so that we may satisfy our own ; and the cravings of hunger must be allayed , if by grovelling to satisfy all the base passions of the vilest nature . ( Hear , hear . ) That may lead to what we have seen ; thathas led to it ; and they who have followed in the train of him who has been guilty of these things , are neither worthy of mucli respect for their position or their intellect . The people of
Ireland will understand this measure by and by ; and I am willing to rest upon the power of truth , and not to suppose that the hou . member for Limerick ( Mr . W . S . O'Brien ) is the representative of the people of Ireland . ( Hear , hear . ) Let us do our duty . ( Cheers . ) Our duty is , without fear or affection , to provide the meaus of educating the large body of that people , who require to be educated , who have a strong desire tor eceiveeducation , and of whom , if we will in the spirit of kindness , toleration , and prudence do them fair justice , asl believe we are doing , we shall win not merely their regard to ourselves , but their attachment to the laws which we enact . We may forget Conciliation-hall , and we believe this to be the last throe of its now expiring destiny . ( Cheers . )
Mr . W . S . O Briex . —I am aware that I am not entitled to be heard again , but , considering the very personal character of what has been said , I should not believe that I sat in a company of English gentlemen if they did not allow it . ( Cheers . ) I have had the satisfaction of being witness to the delivery of the accumulated venom of three months . Sir R . H . Isous . —I rise to order . I am sure the house will listen to any explanation or any vindication from the hon . member who has been attacked ; but I believe the house will not permit him , when professing to vindicate himself , to attack the hon . and learned member , whose speech we have just heard . Other opportunities will arise , when the hon .
member may give such answer as he thinks fit , but at present he is limited to the vindication of himself , and cannot make a second speech for the purpose of attacking any one else . ( Hear , hear . ) The Speakee . —Thehon . member for Limerick , in rising again , had clearly no right to address the home except in explanation . I did not think it my duty to interrupt him , if the house thought fit to indulge him in reply ; but that indulgence could only be granted him with the full concurrence of the house . [ Mr . W . S . O'Brien . — "The house has denied it me . "l The hon . member for Limerick only did that which was right in declining to proceed when thehon . baronet interrupted him .
Sir R . H . Ixgiis . —I rose only when I heard what I conceived could not be in vindication of himself . Lord J . Russell . —There can be no doubt that the hon . member can go no further than explanation in now addressing the house . If he wishes to explain , he is at liberty to do so ; and it is perfectly clear that when the house has resolved itself into committee , the hon . member will not be refused the liberty of making any further observations he may wish to add . LordJ . Manners . —I will not consent , for one , to prevent the hon member from explaining ; and if necessary , therefore , I will now move that he be
heard . Sir J . Graham . —If the house will allow you , Sir , to leave the chair , and resolve itself into committee , thehon . memberfor Limerick can be heard . ( Laughter and cheers . ) Mr . B . Osborsk . —I second the motion of Lord J . Manners . The house then resolved into a committee , Mr . Greene in the chair . Sir J . Graham moveda grant out of the consolidated fund ef the united kingdom , of a sum not exceeding £ 100 , 000 , to defray the expense of establishinn now colleges for the advancement of learning in Ireland , and an annual sum not exceeding £ 21 , 000 , to defray the stipends .
Air . W . S . O Bmes . —I really do most unfeignedly apologise to the house for the necessity under which the hon . and learned member for Bath has laid me , of entering into topics of a personal nature ; but I would remind the house , as they seem to take pride in the denomination of "English gentlemen , " that they have been listening , not only with content , but with approbation , to invective in the most unmeasured terms , continued for nearly a quarter of an hour , and directed against my person alone . I believe I am now in order in repeating , and I will repeat , that I have had the satisfaction of witnessing to-night the delivery of the accumulated venom of three months' concoction . About three months since , the hon . and learned member for Bath thought proper , iu my absence , to make an attack upon me in common with the
seceding Irish members ; and I took the liberty of telling nun from Conciliation Hall , that I treated his insinuations witk contempt . I had no elaborately prepared invective with which to reply to the hon . and learned member . It is my custom in this house to maintain , so far as I am able , the character of a gentleman , without offending any one ( cheers ); I trust I have never slirunkfrom the duty of exposing a bad measure or a bad principle , and I trust I never shall : but I do not pride myself , and I hope I never may , in being able to accumulate sentence upon sentence that would give painto any man . ( Cheers . ) Thehon . and learned member , however , has utterly failed in giving pain to any one except his unfortunate self ; I treat his attack with unutterable contempt , and accompany that contempt with my intense pity .
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Sir R . H . Ixows . —Again I rise to order ; I ask whether any member lias a right to express his unutterable contempt . ( Great laughter . ) The hon . member has caught me in an Irishism ; but if I am not strictly accurate in the words , the animus of the expression was sufficiently clear to justify me in rising . Mr . W . S . O'Briejj . —I leave it to the house to judge how far my vanity has been disappointed . I ean say that when I abandoned attendance in this house I enjoyed the friendship of a greater number of members than at any former period . ( Cheers . ) I also may say , that there were circumstances connected with my career at that moment which were exceedingly gratifying to nie personally . ( Cheers . ) I have no personal animosities in this house , not even against
the hon . and learned member for Bath ; at this moment I would take his hand ( loud cheers ); but he has not represented me fairly when he says 1 made avow never to attend this house . The language that in public and in private I have held in Ireland has been , that I would not attend this house until I felt thatby I doing so I could do some good to my country ; and it 1 is my opinion that an Irish member can more advan-| tageously promote the interests of Ireland , by giving his labours there , than by attending in the House of ! Commons . With respect to the persons with whom : I am in the habit of associating in Ireland , the lion , and learned member for Bath has thought proper to designate . Conciliation-hall as a scone of corruption ; and to those who attend it he has attached some term
which I forget , but equally offensive . Now , I will tell that hon . and learned gentleman , that after having attended in that place for above a year and a half , I have never witnessed in the proceeding of that assembly anything that was not perfectly honourable to all the parties concerned ; and I will speak more particularly with reference to the humbler classes of my countrymen ; and , therefore , so far from being ashamed to avow that I participated in those " scenes of corruption , " it is my pride to contrast that hall with this house , and to claim for the former the superiority of conduct . The hon . and learned member had thought proper , in his absence , to attack one who is infinitely more competent to defend himself , and to crush these miserable efforts , than I am
( cheers ); but I will say , that to suggest the meanest motives as those which can alone guide the conduct of the man who influences the destinies not only of his own country , but of this great empire , and of mankind in general , to suggest that a man who , possessing competence by his professional exertions , might , it is notorious , at this moment have been in the enjoyment of affluence and power , is animated , in placing himself as the leader of a great people to claim for them their national rights , by a base desire to supply those necessities which no man more despises ; 1 will say there is a depth of degradation in it , that proves it the suggestion of a low and grovelling mind . ( Hear , hear , and cheers . ) I say no more in answer to the very intemperate and
unfair attack upon me ; but I will repeat , that if this bill passes in its present form , giving the Government the power of appointing a number of men throughout the kingdom , selected from that class which is most influential , and by the possession of intellectual powers the most capable of exercising an influence over society , this measure will be an attempt to corrupt the intellect of Ireland . Lord John Russell expressed the great satisfaction with which he had read the printed amendments of Sir J . Graham , and after a conversation of some length in the committee , in which Mr . Wyse , Mr . Williams , Mr . V . Smith , Sir R . Peel , Mr . P . Borthwick , and others , took part , the resolution was agreed to , the house resumed , and the report was ordered to be received on Monday .
Monday , June 16 . The House met at four o ' clock . A GBJEAT MORAL LISSOM . ( Not from the Cat and Fiddle . ) After the transaction of some minor business , Mr . Roebuck rose , and , in alow tone of voice , spoke nearly as follows : —I rise , Sir , to solicit the attention of the house while I state to it a question relating to a breach of its privileges . It will be in the recollection of the house that I addressed to it some observations in the course of the debate winch took place on Friday last upon the question of going into a committee upon the Irish Education Bill . What succeeded is also known to the house . In the afternoon of Saturday a carriage stopped at my door , and the following note was left with my servant , it being marked outside " Private and confidential j " it was dated from the Reform Club , and signed " J . P . Somers : "— " Sir , —Unfortunately , I was not in the House of Commons last night when you spoke on the Question of
going into committee on the Irish Colleges Bill . If I had been , the neeessity of addressing to you a letter like this , which is one of inquiry , would not have arisen . But , having been absent , I am compelled to resort to the newspapers for a report of the language you have used . I beg to ask therefore whether the following words were used by you , or words to the same effect : — ' This consideration might have led to what had been witnessed , and those who followed in the train of such a leader deserved little respect either for their position or their intellect . ' If you used these words , the insult they convey to me , as a Repealer , is plain . My second question therefore is , are you prepared to justify them ? The meaning of the word I have underlined jou are , I am sure , too well read in the history of chivalry to misunderstand . ( Laughter . ) I send a copy of this letter to the Morning Chronicle . " The hon . and learned gentleman observed , that the word "justify . " was twice underscored , and was proceeding to make some further remarks , when he was interrupted by
Sir V . Blase , why ( speakingfrom the Opposition benches ) said , —I rise to order . Every hon . gentleman has an undoubted right to deliver his opinion upon any subject that may be submitted for debate in this house , but I say that he has no right to catechise or lecture any particular member or set of members , or utter offensive words—( cries of "Order . " ) The Speaker . —The hon . baronet is , most unquestionably , out of order . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Roebuck continued . On receipt of that note , I immediately wrote an answer , which I delivered myself next morning , to this effect : — " Sir , —You shall receive
the answer which your letter requires , in the House of Commons , on Monday next ; and I now give you the following warning for your guidauco at the same time . 1 am determined that the free expression of opinion shall not iu my person be coerced » r checked ( hear , hear ) , and I shall , therefore , take the most stringent and effective means to punish your present menace and put down all future violence . I hope you arc sufficiently well read in the laws of your country to understand this intimation . " ( Loud cheers , in which Lord Ashley ' s voice was particularly perceptible , followed the reading of this note . ) I have first to move , Sir , that the letter of the hon . member for Sligo be read at the table .
The Speaker . —Is the hon . member for Sligo in his place ! Mr . J . P . Somers rose and bowed . The clerk at the table having read the note , Mr . Roebuck resumed . —Now , Sir , I am exceedingly son-y that it falls to my lot to pursue the course which I am about to pursue . But I feel it a paramount duty , not as regards myself , but as regards this house , to move that " J . P . Somers , having sent a challenge to a member of this house for words spoken by tuat member in his place in Parliament , is guilty of contempt , and of a breach of the privileges of this house . " My reason for adopting this course I shall calmly and briefly state . If I regarded myself in the affair , the law would afford me instant protection ; and I am quite prcpaiicd to throw my self upon
the law in such cases . But in this instance it is not myself I have to consider , —it is this house and the privileges of its members , amongst the most valuable of which is the fair and free expression of their opinions respecting public men and public policy . I claim a r ight to the free expression of my opinions , and I think I have a right to assume that in expressing them on the occasion I have alluded to I committed no breach of the rules of this house , inasmuch as I was not by you , Sir , or by any hon . member in the house , called to order . ( Hear . ) I claim the right to say that I have little regard for the intellect of some public men ; but I go further , and say that I entertain little respect for the position which they hold ; and one of them comes forward and suggests to me that he should be allowed to shoot at me . ( "Hear , hear , " from Lord Ashley and others ) Is that a proof of superiority of intellect « ( Hear , hear . ) Does it support the opposite proposition to that which I endeavoured to establish in this house % But , if it do not , what does it
do ? It gives to any man having that species of physical courage which shall give him a great chance with a pistol over his antagonist to assail any man in this house who chooses to dohis duty . ( Hear , hear . ) I think it would be far wiser to adopt the more courageous course of at once meeting a proceeding of this description in the way in which I now meet it . ( Cheers . ) I put aside all other considerations at present , and they are many . I sink them , and stand upon my privilege as a member of this house , to demand of this house , that it should protect me . I throw myself upon it for protection I use the word advisedly—aud when we consider all that 13 going on around us , when we see the vast calamities which arise out of this barbarous custom ( cheers)—I say that it becomes every man who has a heart that beats with the pulse of courage to take the course which I now take . ( Cheers . ) Assuming , therefore , that the hon . member will not deny his writing , I mo ve that he is guilty of contempt , and of a breach of the privileges of this house , ( near , hear . )
Lord Ashley and Mr . Hume rose together to second themotion . There being a loud call for Lord Ashley , Mr . Hume gave way . Lord Ashley said , —I rise with great satisfaction to second the motion , and in doing so will take the liberty of tendering to the lion , member for Bath my sincere and heartfelt thanks for having brought it forward . I offer to him not only my thanks , but I think I may say the thanks of a very large body « f gentlemen in this house ; and I know that I speak the sentiments also of a very large proportion of my fellow-subjects when I say that I have viewed with disgust and horror the prevalent notion of what is miscalled honour . In this instance we are doubly indebted to the hon . and learned member for asserting not only a social question , but a great constitutional question ; for I can foresee the time when , if this system be introduced into this house , or into any other deliberative assembly , the liberty of speech will be at an end , and lion , members will be under the necessity of appealing , as our ancestors did , not to the influence and
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force of reason , but to violence and the sword . ( Cheers . ) I therefore cordially second the motion , tendering at the same time , iu my own name , and in the names also of the gentlemen of England , and of thousands of his . fellowsubjects , my warm thanks for his manly and courageous and consistent conduct . ( Cheers . ) Mr . J . P . Somers then rose and said , —Sir , I have no hesitation whatever in withdrawing the letter , which is looked on as an attack upon the hon . mid learned member . It was merely a letter of inquiry . ( Laughter . ) The hon . and learned member did not condescend to answer those inquiries . I do not call in question his motives for refusing , but I bow with unaffected deference to the decision of this house and of the chair . ( Cheers . ) I am not one of those who will play with the authority of
the house , or attempt a dexterous accommodation of offensive terms . I take the sense of the Speaker and of the house to be paramount upon all occasions , and will not be one to run counter to them . An opposite course might lead to a great waste of time . I deeply regret that I wrote this letter ( loud cheers ) , and that any matter personal to myself should have occupied the attention of the house for a single moment . ( Cheers . ) If the hon . and learned gentleman is satisfied with that explanation , I trust the house will also be satisfied ( cheers ) , for I do not think I can say anything fuller or more explicit . At the same time I trust the house will bear with me for a moment whilst I call the hon . and learned member ' s
attention to observations which I am sure he must regret , and to the coarse imputations which are frequently put forth against certain members of this house . ( Cheers . ) Hon . members must really give me the liberty of saying that the hon . and learned member ' s observations are not always in accordance with—I must bo permitted to say it truth . No ; 1 will recall the observation , and will say with what entitles them to public respect . I now resign myself to the hon . and learned gentleman . Henceforth he may say anything he pleases of me , or of the party to which I belong . ( Hear , hear . ) I have to apologise to the house for intruding myself on its attention ; and I once more declare I regret to have been the cause of occupying its attention for one moment . ( Hear , hear . )
SirG . Obey . —Nothing , Sir , can be more satisfactory or more ample than the manner in which , during the early part of his observations , the lion , member for Sligo retracted hie letter to the hon , member for Bath . The casual expression in the latter part dropped from him unawares , and was not intended to qualify that retraction . But as the hon . member has placed the course he has taken partly on what he conceives to be the general feeling of the house , I should not do justice to my own footings if I did not say a few words upon the subject . In common with my noblo friend the member for Dorsetshire , I think the course pursued this night by the hon . and learned member for Bath is the proper course which every member , under such circumstances , should always pursue , and I concur in the opinion , that the example
now , for Ihe second time , set by the hon . and learned member , will be followed by any other member who may rficeive a hostile message for what may have been spoken in debate . I concur also with my noble friend in his energetic denunciation of this barbarous and uu-Christian practice . There is not one word used by him that I do not sanction ; and I am as opposed to the practice as any man in this house can be . I must at the same time say , that my entira approval of the conduct of the lion , and learned gentleman is limited to his conduct in this matter . ( Cheers . ) I cannot extend my unqualified approbation to the course he took 011 Friday night . I feel strongly , that when called to account by a hostile challenge , it was his duty as a member of the house to bring it before the house , instead of yielding to what might be the feeling out of doors ; but I feel also that he ought to have guarded himself ( clieers ) in tlm language
he addressed to tins house . Far be it from me from taking upon myself the part of censor of the hon . aud learned member for Bath . I am sure ho discharges , in whatever speech he may make , and whatever language he may use , what he conceives to be his duty ; but , after the feeling of the house had been shown on the general question , I should not do my duty if I did not say , that I think tlio terms of his statement were calculated to give offence , and the lion , and learned gentleman must see that this is riot necessary to maintain the freedom of speech in this house . I was in the house on Friday night , and I heard the speech of thehon . and learned gentleman with that attention to which all his speeches arc justly ontitled for their talent and ability , and I thought at the time that it was calculated needlessly to cause irritation , and I am sure the lion , and learned gentleman will concur with me , that truths may bo spoken and in plain language , and yet that they need not cause irritation beyond the moment .
Sir R . Pbel . —I think , sir , that the hon . gentleman the member for Bath has taken a course which is consistent with true courage , and one which he can take without any imputation remaining on him ; and at the same time I think that the hon . gentleman has made every retractation it was possible for him to make . He has unequivocally declared that he retracts the letter ; he has expressed his deep regret at having written it , and he has apologised to the house ; and he has done what a parson who lias been betrayed into an act of this kind may , with equal credit to himself , do . Under these circumstances I trust the lion , and learned gentleman will see he has received such reparation that he himself will withdraw the motion . ( Cheers . ) I think he has set an example whioh may be worthily followed , and at the same time I think that the hon . member who was in error has also set an example with perfect credit to himself , by making the most ample and best reparation in his power . I trust , therefore , that the lion , and learned gentleman will not press his motion .
Mr . E . B . Roche did not rise to prolong this unpleasaut discussion , on which they must all unwillingly enter , but he trusted lie might be allowed to say , that they never would have arrived at this unpleasant state if the house had , as it ought to have done , interfered when the hon . member for Bath made those observations . What was their present position ? It was not tlio right of any member of that house to make personal observations , and they could not make imputations without creating unpleasant feelings , and some indignation in the bosoms of those who were treated in this manner . He took it , that it was under these feelings that the lion , member for Sligo acted in the course he had adopted . He would not express any
opinion on the prudence of that course . The course of the hon . and learned member for Bath might , on the whole , be the prudent and proper course , but he must limit his approval , as the hon , member for Devenport had done , to the hon , and learned member ' s conduct tlu . t night . The house , however , had its own character to maintain in preventing such unpleasant scenes from eccurring ; and they ought to stop all that would raisu these feelings , either in the house or out of it . He would not go so far as to say that the Speaker ought to get up and stop like remarks , but the house ought to show by strong intimations its own feelings against such exhibitions , and so stop the occurrence of anything unpleasant ,
Mr . Hume said that no man was a greater enemy to the practice of duelling than he was , and he was willing to make every allowance for what happened in the heat of debate , ne spoke feelingl y , for no one , probably , had required more allowances in this respect than he had done ; but this case was entirely different . Many hon . members might have received such aletter as that written to Ms hon . Mend , in such a way as to lead to tlie destruction of themselves and their families . The house ought not , therefore , to try his hon . Mend for his speech the other night , and so he thought the right hon . baronet ( Sir 6 . Grey ) had taken an erroneous view of the question . He was for supporting all their privileges ; if there was one which was more important than any other it was the freedom of speech in that house ; and if there was any manner in which that freedom could be more seriously attacked than in any other , it was by sending a hostile
message . Let him call their attention to the situation in which his lion , friend was placed : he had been held up elsewhere in language which few members would endure , and was he not to be at liberty to express his deep sense of the injury he Jiad received , and was the right lion , baronet to lay down the rule of how his hon . friend was to express his opinions ? If they were to have freedom of speech every member must express his own sense of injury in his own way ; and if he were wrong , he might at once be called to order , as acting against the rules of the house . They ought not to try him for an expression of opinion , when the question was , what had been the conduct of another member towards him . Ho humbly submitted that the house ought to affirm the motion , that this was a breach of the privileges of the house —( cheers ) , and whatever step might be taken afterwards , no one would be disposed to act more tenderly , or with more liberality , than he was .
SirR . H . Inohs most cordially thanked the hon . and learned member for Bath for having brought forward this question , which showed both moral and physical courage . He also thanked his noble friend ( Lord Ashley ) for seconding the motion , and for the truly noble and Christian manner in which ho had discharged that duty . He rose also to say , that if it was the pleasure of the house to allow the motion to be withdrawn , they slieuld not do it without entering at the same time upon their journals , that the hon . member for Sligo had in his placa acknowledged his error , had apologised to the hon . member for Bath and to the house , and had expressed his regret that the letter had been written . Less than this would not satisfy the justice of the case , and secure to hon . members the privilege , which , whatever might become of their other privileges , was the fnjf t and most essential , the free expression of opinion in that house .
Lord Uowick entirely concurred with the lion , gentleman that the motion ought not to be withdrawn without some entry , at all events of the ground , and without saying that the apology of the lion , member for Sligo had been accepted as full satisfaction . But he would ge further ; he would say they ought first to affirm the motion of the hon . member for Bath—( cheers ) , —and having affirmed that , they should add that a full and ample apology having heon tendered in Ms place by the hon . member for Sligo , the house would not proceed
further in the matter , llus was the proper course , or if the motion were withdrawn it would appear as if they were not prepared to declare that a challenge sent by one member of the house to another member for words spoken in that house was a breach of privilege . As he agreed with the noble lord the member for Dorsetshire and with the right hon . baronet the member for Devonport , that they were deepl y obliged to the hon . and learned member for Bath for the course he had taken , he for one was not prepared to consent to the motion being with , drawn .
Viscount Palmerston . —1 concur in substance with the view taken by my noble friend ; but , at the same time , if we pass this resolution , containing the name of a particular individual , we shall make it appear that this particular person lias incurred blame and censure , and
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as the general feeling is , that my hon . friend the member for Sligo has made an ample apology , the object of his noble friend would be obtained by a general resolution , affirming thatitis a breach of the privileges of this house to take notice , by a hostile message , of what has passed in this house . I quite agree that the hon . member for Bath deserves the thanks of the house for the course he has taken , and it is impossible for any man to express in stronger language than I will be disposed to do , that the course token by my hon . friend the member for Sligo is not only a breach of the privileges of this house , but a blow at the constitutional privileges of Parliament It is , therefore , absolutely essential , to enable this house properly to discharge its duties , that such proceedings should not be repeated . But , on the other hand , I do
entreat the house to attend to the observation made by the right lion , member for Devonport ( Sir G . Grey ) ; every man should bear in mind , that if he is not to be personally responsible for that which he may feel it his duty to state in debate , he should take especial care that that which he does say shall not be calculated to give unnecessary personal offence . ( Cheers . ) And without , I trust , being supposed to take upon myself the office of critic , I must say , that without going into the question whether the censure passed by the hou . and learned member for Bath was in itself just or not ( and I might be disposed very much to concur in the general view he took that the hon . members he referred to were not justified in their absence from their place in Parliament ) , yet I think he will feel , on reflection , that the observations
made by him , not merely on Friday night , but on former occasions , uponmembersrepresenting Irish constituencies , and the manner and language in which they were made , did overstep those bounds which are at all necessary for the f ullf reedom of debate , or for the purpose of expressing to the utmost of proper constitutional latitude any opinion which one hon . member may entertain of the conduct of another . ( Cheers . ) I trust that while tins house shall interpose effectually to prerent hostile proceedings out of doors for language expressed here , every member will feel it on this account more especially his duty , with a view to preserving the public respect for our position and standing , to abstain from using languago which can give justifiable offence or wound unnecessarily the feelings of another . ( Ch eers . )
The Speaker said , it would perhaps & 6 sUt the lvou ^ in coining to a conclusion if he read to thorn what would be the entry on the journals of what had nowpasscd : — "The hon . member for Sligo stated in his place that , seeing the feeling of the house to be in condemnation of the course he had taken , he had no hesitation in expressing , in the most unequivocal manner , his regret that he had written the letter , and his wish to withdraw any offensive expression used therein to the hon . and learned member for Bath , and at the same time to express his regret that the attention of the house should have been occupied with a matter personal to himself ; trusting what he had now said would prove satisfactory to the house . " ( Hear , hear . ) .
Sir AV . Somerville said , that though it was irregular to allude to what had passed in former debates , Irish members could not always forget it , andsomu allowance ought to be made for the excited feelings of the lion , member for Sligo . He believed that hon . gentleman liad never been guilty of an unkind or harsh expression towards any individual ( hear , hear ); and it would be dealing hardly with him if the hon . and learned member for Bath were not to allow him to retract his letter . Mr . Roebuck said , that he had brought before the house an offence against its privileges , and not against his own feelings ; and when the house felt its privileges defended , far bo it from him to throw any impediment in the way . . He could not , however , admit in any degree the charge brought against him by the right hon . member for Devon .
port ( Sir G . Grey ) , for it was a charge . He ( Mr . Roebuck ) had expressed an opinion concerning conduct which he then believed , and still believed , the most mischievous that could be pursued for the interests of this ereat country ; he used language that accurately described his feelings and opinions on that subject ; he did more—he had a right to do that . What he said before was true . Fault ought to have been found with him then , and there might have been opportunity ( which he would not now take ) of satisfying the house that his language was mild , gentle , guarded ( a laugh ) , as compared with that employed against this house generally , and against himself individually . ( Cheers . ) But ho did not ask any apology to himself ; he wanted none ; the privilege of the house had been vindicated , and that was all he sought for . ( Cheers . )
Mr . Smith O'Brien . —I had no intention of addressing the house upon this question ; but reference has been made by the hon . and learned member for Bath to tlio expressions with which he insulted me , in a manner which I appeal to you , sir , with the most perfect confidence , to declare to be unparliamentary , assigning to me as an individual the basest motives . ( " Order , order !" "Chair , chair ! " ) The Speaker . —Nothing could be more irregular than for the lion , member to make exception to words spoken in a former debate . He should have taken exception to them at the time . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . Roebuck . —I will go a step further . ( " Order , order . " ) I rise to order . I have been accused of using language unfit to bo heard in this house . Tlie hon , member has just used that language towards me , and I say he ought to be cnlled upon to retract his expression . ( "Order . " )
LordJ . Manners . —I think , sir , that as you have interposed in the case of the hon . member for Limerick ( Mr . W " . S . O'Brien ) , in the same way a stop ought to be put to further observations from the hou , and learned member for Bath . Mr . Tcbner made some observation rocpectmg duelling in the army and navy , but the exact purport of it did not reach us . Mr . W . Smith O'Brien . —The hon . and learned member for Bath has reasserted every offensive expression he used on Friday night . ( " No , no . " ) Am I mistaken or not ?
The Speaker . —If the hon . and learned member for Bath made uso of any expression this evening or on a former evening which could strictly be called unparliamentary , it would be my duty to interrupt him . It did not appear to me that he did so , nor did it so appear to any lion , member , and I was not called upon to interfere on the former night ; and I certainly- cannot admit that any expression which has fallen from him this evening will bear that construction . ( Hear , hear . ) SirH . W . Barros said , that when a case of this kind occurred , in which the lion , and learned member for Cork was a party [ at this moment Mr . O'Connell entered the house amidst a roar of laughter at the coincidence ] , he was told to he extremely cautious in his language ; but no such caution had been administered to the lion , and learned member for Bath , who was in the habit of using dictatorial language and offensive expressions towards many hon . members .
The Speaker said , the hon . gentleman could not mean to accuse the lion , and learned member for Bath of making use of offensive language towards any hon . memter that evening , because nothing had fallen from him that could be offensive to any man . Sir H . VT . Barbon did not mean to say that it was ( Order—Hear , hear . ) AU he wished to mark was the distinction between this case and the former ; and he thought ho saw in it something of party spirit . At all events , the hon . and learned member for Bath ought not to use offensive language if he meant to shelter himself under the plea of privilege , but ought to be exceedingly cautious in his words .
Sir R . Peel said , he was sorry the noblo lord opposite had exercised the privilege of opposing the withdrawal of themotion ; the privileges of the house had been sufficiently vindicated by the ample apology made—a course highly creditable to the hon . member . ( Hear , hear . ) The hon . and learned member for Bath had occasion to take the same course last year upon a letter which was more decided , and yet Hie house was content to let it pass without any record on its journals that it was a breach of privilege . At the same time there was the case of Mr . Hope , now the Lord Justice Clerk , where the letter was a challenge , but in consequence of the ample explanation
given at the bar , the house resolved to proceed no further . As to its being , as stated in this motion , " a contempt and breach of privilege , " he ( Sir R . Peel ) doubted whether it was exactly a contempt of the house ; he thought that word must be left out . The house might resolve that it was a breach of privilege , and then that , in consequence of the explanation given by the hon . member , it would proceed no further . He would suggest that course , though it would have been more satisfactory to him if th » noble lord had allowed the motion to be withdrawn . If compelled to vote , he ( Sir R . Peel ) could not deny that it was a breach of privilege .
Lord Sandon suggested that the previous question might be moved . Lord Howick . said , that the appeal of the right hon , baronet to him supplied the strongest reason for his persevering in resisting the withdrawal of the motion , because ho had stated that this was not the first time this had taken place : the motion on a former occasion was allowed to be withdrawn—it passed in effect for nothing , and now a similar transaction had occurred . He had no wish to visit what had occurred with any severity , but he thought the resolution ought to be passud with the amend .
ment suggested by the right hon . baronet ( SirR . Peel ) , and there the affair might end . The hon . and learned member for Bath , having his feelings appealed to could not avoid consenting to withdraw his motion ; but it was for other hon . members , not interested , to exercise their undoubted privilege of objecting to that . He would move as a resolution to follow it , — "That , in consideration of the ample apology made by the lion , member for Sligo , in his place , to the house and to the hon . and learned member for Bath , this house will not proceed any further in this matter . "
Sir V . Blake thought the house was adopting a mistaken principle ; it went the length of establishing aright on the part of one hon . member to call another a rascal ( a laugh ) , and there was no remedy to the individual if the Speaker called him to order and obliged him to retract ¦ but , in the event of the Speaker not doing so , then it would be highly indiscreet in the offended party to write a letter ( a laugh ); it would be safer and more politic to consult whether it would be most prudent to take off tlio offending party ' s nose with a ball , or to pluck it up b y the roots altogether . ( Laughter . ) He could not concur in the general understanding as to what was the privilege of Parliament ; he considered it to be a ri ght given by the Crown to speak freely political sentiments , aud not a right to one member to give offence to another . Some remedy ought to be adopted to prevent the habitual indulgence of this passion on the thepart of the hon , andlearned member for Bath ,
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The motion of Mr . Roebuck was then ftrviad , omittin * the words " contempt and ; " after which Lord Howick ' 8 resolution was also carried .
THE " HUME ECONOMT . " On the motion of Sir R . Peel , the house then resolred itself into a Committee of the whole house to coi «\ aoc her Majesty ' s most gracious messnge respecting Sir rr Pottinger . b rH < In the committee Sir R . Peel stated that her Majestj had expressed a wish that a pension of £ 1 , 500 a-ycar should be settled upon Sir H . Pottinger . He , therefore proposed a resolution to that effect , and that the payment of the pension should commence from the day on which he ceased to receive pay as her Majesty ' s plenipotentiary in China . He also intended to accompany this resolu . tion with a stipulation that future empl oyment in the public service should not disentitle to the receipt of this pension , which was given as a reward for past public services .
After a slight grumble against the resolution from Mr Williams , and a warm support given to it by Sir G . Staunl ton and Lord Palmerston , it was passed nemine contradicente . The house then resumed , and the report was ordered to be received to-morrow .
IRISn BANKING . Sir . R . Peel then moved the third readiug of the Bant ing ( Ireland ) Bill . Mr . S . O'Bries could not allow this bill to pass its last stage without entering Ms protest against it . Mr . O'Connell also expressed his dislike to this bill instead of restricting , they ought to increase the currency of Ireland , if they wished to restore prosperity to that country . Sir II . Peel defended the bill . The solidity and solvency of the banks were more necessary than an increase of paper currency to give increased elasticity to the energicj After a short discussion , in which Mr . Trelawney , Mr Ross , Mr . Hawes , and Mr . Williams joined , the bill ' wM read a third time , and , after certain clauses brought up by Mr . S . O'Brien and Sir W . Somerville bad been ne , gatived , was passed . TUE NEW COLLEGES BILL .
Sir James Graham then moved that tlio reDort of tu * committee of the whole house on the grant from the Consolidated Fund to the new colleges in Ireland Is brought up . Mr . OsnoRNE postponed to a future stage of the bill tlw amendment on this motion , which stood in his name on the votes . Sir J . Graham then said , that as LordJ . Russell was absent , he would postpone giving the explanation which he had promised as to tlie alterations he intended to in . troduce into the bill itself to Thursday next , when be would move that it be committed . Mr . J . O'Connell suggested to Sir J . Graham « ut m the Roman Catholic Bishops of Ireland were to have a meeting on tlie subject of this bill on the 24 th inst ., he should postpone the committal till a week after that time , in order that the house and the country might be put in possession of the opinion which they might have formed of its practicability and of its merits .
Mr . Hume hoped that Sir James Graham would not postpone the next stage of the bill for any such reasons . Mr . SnEiL reminded Sir J . Graham , that when the bill was first introduced , he had warned the Government that they had done wrong in not consulting the Uoman Catholic bishops of Ireland upon its enactments . Since ttiat tima the Roman Catholic bishops had signed certain resolutions , in which they declared the enactments of the bill to be dangerous to faith and morals , but gave credit to her Majesty ' s Ministers for good intention in introducing it . The objections stated in their memorial appeared to bo insuperable ; and tlie members ofher Majesty ' s Govern , ment , on being asked how far they concurred in the suggestions for their removal contained iu that memorial , replied , that it was with great sorrow that they had coma to tho conclusion that it was not consistent with their duty to assent to them . Some alterations Imd sinco hpim
made in the bill , and Lord J . Russell had declared his " approbation of the alterations , but not of the bill itself considered as a whole . Sir J . Graham had been asked , whether he would consent to allow a Roman Catholic and a Protestant chaplain to be attached to these collegiate institutions , and to pay each of them by the State , and also whether he would consent to alter the clause which gave to the Crown the appointment of all the professor , ships . He had postponed till this day his answers to those questions ; and lie ( Mr . Sheil ) now wished to know whether Sir J . Graham would inform the house whether any change had been made in the bill in the two important particulars to which he had just referred , and whether tua Government had taken advantage of the delay afford them for the purpose of further communication with the Roman Catholic bishops , and if so , whether those prelates ap . proved the alterations introduced into the bill ?
Mr . Colquhobn said , that before Sir J . Graham answered these questions , he must beg to enter his pro . test against that house calling into its councils any hierarchy , and more especially one which had assisted Mr . O'Connell in his project for the dismemberment of the empire . Government ought to consultits own judgment , and not to take advice from an ecclesiastical synod of ttepealers-Mr . O'Connell would not agitate the question of repea on the present occasion . All he rose to say was , that the Roman Catholic bishops of Ireland hail never tlis-l cussed the nature of the education which was to be given
to Irotcstants ; they had only discussed the nature of the education to bo given to Roman Catholics . He claimed for them full ri ght to interfere in the education of the youth of their own faitli . He thanked Sir It . Inglisfor having fllslgnated this bill as a bill for propagating a gigantic scheme of godless education . He had come over to the House of Commons for the express purpose of in . sisting that it should make religion an essential part of education , as in point of fact it was in its own nature . He hoped that they would be able to discuss that question with temper , aud the mode of doing so would be not to follow the example of Mr . Colquhoun .
Sir James Graham hoped that the discussion of this question would continue to be conducted , as it had hi . thereto been , with good temper . He gladly subscribed to the . opinion that tho judgment of that house ought not to submit to the dictation of any hierarchy whatever . He felt , however , that on the subject of the education of tlie Roman Catholic population of Ireland , tho opinion of the Roman Catholic prelates of that country ought to be treated with respect . He admitted that Lord Heytesbury had received anew memorial from them—nay more , that he had had a long conference with them . He had reason to hope that some of their objections to the bill had been mitigated in consequence of the explanation which Imd then taken place ; and some of his amendments had been made in conformity with their objections . Since that conference no further communication had taken plaeo
between Lord Heytesbury and those prelates . With re . spect to the further alterations which he had to propasl upon the bill , he would not say that they had been submitted to the consideration of the Woman Ca . thohc bishops , nor was it fitting that they should be . ^ The plan of education would be to exclude religious education from the system taught within the walls of tlie college , and to afford over ? facility for furnishing it without the walls to everj sect and religious denomination . He assured the house , that after the bill bad passed through com . mittee , full time should be given before its third reading for the full consideration of it by the people of Ireland . Looking , however , to the state of public business and to the advanced period of the session , he felt that he should be betraying his public duty if he postponed the committee on the bill to a later day than Thursday next
, After a desultory conversation , in which Mr . \ Vysc , Sit \ V . James , Mr . Jephson , Mr . E . B . Roche , and Mr . Hope joined , the resolution was agreed to , andordercd to be inserted in the bill . The committee on the bill was then postponed till Thursday next , Sir G . Clerk obtained leave to bring in a hill to coa . tinue for five years longer an Act of hor present Ma . josty , for excluding certain bills of exchange and promissory notes from tho operation of the laws respecting usury . The other orders of the day were then disposed of , and the house adjourned .
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American Slavery . —Horbible Stokv . —We learn from indubitable authority that Mrs . Ilolloway , wife ot Mr . Ilolloway , of Person county ( who was once a member ofour Legislature ) , having- prevailed on her husband , one day last week , to tic the hands or one of tlieir negro women , beat and tortured her to death . It is said that she heated a pan handle red hot and ran it down tlie negro ' s throat , besides burning her lips to a crisp . This horrid tale about the burnin" . seems too incredible to be believed , and we mention it , on the authority of rumour , without vouchin" for its accuracy . The negro was privately buried ei"lrt feet deep , in an obscure place , and Mr . and Mrs . Ilolloway made their escape to parts unknown to the neighbours , doubtless to Texas . Whether Mr . Ilolloway was accessory to the murder further than to tie the negro , we are not apprised . — # «/<««»«* Star , April 24 .
Magazine in Orkney !—A northern contemporary remarks :- "The Orkney Literary and Scientific Oiub intend publishing a quarterly magazine during , X ea !'» w'ncu ls intended to be called ' The Orkney and Zetland Literary Quarterly Magazine . ' Amongst the subjects which are proposed to be admitted into its pages arc—1 . The ancient history of Orkney and Zetland—a . The natural history of Orkney , icf . Hie agriculture and fisheries of the county . — i . ine natural advantages and disadvantages of tho county—its peculiarities—its grievances—its people —their character , manners , &c — their social and domestic condition-their superstitious , < fcc .-5 . All matters of general interest to the county or any part ! j' aasing events—Orcadean tales , legends , and a dventures—original poetry , and other miscellaneous articles .
Copy of a Letter sent to Mr . Houowat , attesting an Extraordinary Cure . — "I , John Green , a builder , residing at No . 9 , Windmill-street , Finshmjsquare , London , do solemnly declare that my tfitc was afflicted for three years with a dreadful ulcerated leg , and that she consulted several eminent surgeons . and likewise two physicians , without receiving any benefit whatever . I further declare that , after every other means had failed , she has been radically cureil by the use alone of Ilolloway's Pills and Ointment , which were used together . Sigr . ed .-Jolm Green . "
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* THE NORTHERN STAR . June 21 , 1845
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