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(• And I will war , at least in * erdg , ( Aad—should my chance so happen—deeds , ) 17 iih all who war with Thought !" « I think I hear a little bird , who sings The peopleby-and-feywUibethestronger . "—B » on . THE AMERICAN AGRARIAN REFORMERS 0 SEAT PROGRESS OP THE AGRAWASS . —BLOW-UP Of A B 1 SX .
That onr American friends did wisely and well in otertbrnwing Whitney and his gnu ? , no man who is not knare or fool will " dispute . C onfident of this we were anrnrised and rrxed to observe that the 3 eu-Torh Tribune while admitting the justice and reason of the Agrarian resolutions , nevertheless condemned the conduct of those who had caused the adoption h y the meetins of the said resolutions . The Tribune argued that Whitney and his gang"haTine hired the 'Tabernacle / had a right to dotfceir own business in their own war . and that the Agrarian IteforoieTs had no rfebt to interrupt the proceedings , take possession of the hall , and turn the meeting to their own account" This is soon answered . Whitney and his ? 6 » ctctat <> s catted a public meeting of the
« it »; en * of New YtTc to consider his project , and the meeting was presided over hy the head rauncipal officer of the city—the mayor : the object , therefore , was to nUain the sanction of the citizens of New York f > r the p rojeited railway , and hid Whitney lad thins * all hi * own way , had there been no opposition , or had the oppnserabeen defeated , the rascally tnoney-jnspiers press would have tronipeted the meeting as a declaration of the citizens of New York in support of Whitney ' s scheme . The Agrarian Reformers were fully justified in the course they pursued , nay tw > re . they would have been guilty of treason to ^ theni Belver . had they neglected the performance of what was clearly the duty of each and all—attendance at the meeting , for tlie purpose of
exnressins their views as ^ to Whitney ' s project . This subject is intere ting te us because the working men of this country have been often placed in the like circumstances , and have suffered the like abuse to that now heaped nnnn the American Reformers by the hireling press of New York . The infamnn * freebnot-TH , in their late agitation for ' the repeal of the Corn Laws , for a considerable time ventured to call public and towns' meetings in support ofthrir delusion : when and wherever they did so the Chartists oroperly attended the meetings , quietly htard the League liars , thec moved their " amendments , " and invariably carried those " amendments" against the resolutions offered by the Leasuers . Then did the town and coanfry press ring with denuncia < i > ns of
the Chartists for taking possession of rooms they bad not hired , and directm ? meetings they had not convened . Abuse , however , ar . d even ruffianism saperadded , did not prevent the Chartists doing their duty , so the freebooters finding that the only result of their pablic meeting was to cover themselves'with infamy and promote the agitation for the Charter , skulked into holes and corners , and henceforth the agitation for Free Trade was carried on within closed doors . To their meetings there was no admission hut by tickets and strong bodies of police were constantly in attendance , to pounce npon any stray individual who might exhibit the boldness of ventnringto contest the impudent assumptions and lying assertions of Cobden . Bright and Co . Probably Whitney and his ean » will have recourse to the same system of elicitine
"the / rte expression of public opinion . " If so . a * long as the meetings profess to be merely meetings of friend * of the scheme , we do not scekow the workinc men of New York can well meddle with them : but if theschemeisgetup "ticket meetings" and dare to call them " pnhlic" or " city" meeting ? , we trust that the American workifig-mea will stand no nonsense , cut will find their way into the said meetincs " peaceably if they can , but forcibly if they must . " We shall bow proceed to notice the nr etincs of the Ai erarian Reformers in New York , and the prosress of their principles in other States . Wemust frit notice the "Young Men ' s ( Acramns ) Ball—a splendid aSair-which took place on Christmas eve , in the large hall of " St . Tammany . " which was " densely crowded . " From Young America we glean the following : —
In the supper Baloon , after the repast , addresses ^ . re "ej' ^ red by Dr Douglas and Mr Ryckman . which elicited the rapturous applauss of both sexes , a , , the following toasts were given , ( withont the old-fashinued accompaniment . ) The Declaration of Independence—May its sublime troths and enlightened views of human rights be speedily reduce 1 to practice . The Four Measures of the National Reformers . A Free Press , properly conducted , the only arm j , and ffce Ballot the only charge , Americans require with which to eain and guard their liberties . The TVill of tha Majority fairly expressed—The only government we recognise , so long as they rule in justice . The Industrial Congress—In supporting itweaiain umtwgthe working classes of the country , all tbatis tucesssryto make them free indeed .
George H . Evans—The father , guardian and self-iacrinemg pioneer of Sational Reform . The Ladies , and especiall y those who have honored us with their presence-May they prove themselves worlhv daughters of the noble women of 76 . The English Chartists—May they speedily gain their "six points . " The fraternal Democrats of Loadon—May the day soon arrive when their motto— " All men are brethren /' shall become a practical , living , acting realiiy . The Five Elements of liberty . Progress and H . ppi . ness—The Husband , Wife , Bon , Daughter , and InalUnable Home . The Cjnstitution of the ConstJtntioa of the United States—A landed Democracy .
The Democratic Princi ple—Always seeking a wise distribution in preference to an insane and rapacious aggregation of wealth ; to render Power the servant of its sub-Jectt ; to givfjuit distribution to all men according to merit , instead of perpetuating obscure masses with a lew persons of little worth , distinguished by being elevated upon their thonlders . Tha National Reformers of New York They have planted the banner of human right upon the parapets of the strong-holds of ignorance and aristocracy . ItVencefortb . wfllhetae duty and glory of all heroic hearts to ratty to sustain the sacred banner , until the garrison surrenders at discretion . We notice that a grand complimentary ball waB to ba given to the Editor of Toung America on the 25 th of February . We will notice the account of the tall as soon as it reaches us .
Young America in giving an account of the meeting ' of the Association held on the 2 ~ th of January wportstbat" mtliam , Weitling a celebrated German Reformer , who has suffered imprisonment and persecution for the people ' s cause in Germany , was present , in pursuance of an invitation of the Association and expressed his approbation of the cause . " ' Cheering reports of the progress of the Agrarian Reform movement np to the 13 th of February are in our possession . These reports include Virginia , Mageachusetts . Wisconsin , Illinois and Ohio . A torrespondent of Young America writing frora Cincinnati , Bays i —•>
The progress of the cause of National Reform it bajona our taost sanguine expectations . The mind » of the p , ople are hecemiog waked to thtir interests , and each effort the Old Hanker , make to indicate the Wong u hut another toll of their funeral knell . But tow msny do yon number * is often asktd : we are begin JW » J to answer that our number ii legion ; and the time t ^ ?* tant Whea we wiU haTe ¦ " OT « O » conntry the test writers , both in prose and poetry , enlisted in Onr ranks , who , if they were » ot depending far thtir uvinp on those who ar « behind the age , would speak out « oonet ; tot I inow some that now write for present Pnttkations one way and for future ones another . There fa a bright «* about to dawn at our seat of Government that tsill fhortly speak forth on this subject , the Right of Man to a Home , the Bight of the Bace to the E . rth ; and when we have such an auxiliary as that to our ranks , we Mil be able to make things tell nobl y for mankind .
A friend from Kentucky called on me a few dajs » ince for papers and tracts . He Mid they had a CongKSs in tte neighbourhood in which he livea , and from the tracts ) Z r # . t " v him he bad intr 0 < to < ttd a bill for the free Jtom of the public lands , and he felt he would do much la the oonntrj so due using it and it » vill tell well I hope our friends will get it in all the debating soc i eties ^ T- ^ a W ssi *" Eooacw - -ssssas Van Andringe the association ' , ££%£ * & torjm ? the » fiery cross" through parts rfrWL an New
^ muware d Jersey , with the best S Jel " 1 ° f a B * " -Bwnr . Upr at PJainfield | The city was thrown into excitement on Thursday h * j £ «*« orttat stereotype occurrence , a Ba » k W h t- ™ ™ ™ « ftw an instigation of it , aff « r » ereiibod ^ T ** - kU ftonsb » eT S ^ y "P ^ ted i , . i oa « S S . T ? ' ^ not ket *> s ***** <»" I The g' ^ ° *• * lack J on « ^ en the crash can , * . wwSHS'S ? ' «** **« « » ^ ng « grocers t ^ eSon ? * tith lUrTMt to lBTMt in iome n «
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MOVEMENTS ' of THE WEEkT
The reported proposal to unite the North American colonies under a viceroy , with a Parliament to assemble at Quebec , excites gener al attention , and is saia to be favourably received in the colonies . The scarcity continues to gain ground in France . In Ee ' giura , frightful disorders have broken out . According to the National , the black flag of la Jacquerie is making its tour of Bel gium . At Liege there were no troops to protect the town , as they had been sent against the operative population of Verviers , where there is no garrison . The black flag has been hoisted at Siade , near Huy . Four farm-houses have been burnt in the cantons of Wavre and Perwez bv bands
of mendicants . It is feared that serious disturbances will break outin Brussels . In Germany and Hungary the famine is marching with rapid strides . Portuga l too , is threatened with the same calamity , a large portion of the country being left uncultivated in consequence of the civil war . The outburst of Italian feeling against Austrian domination , is assuming a threatening aspect . A general rising against the Kaiser is probably not far distant . The Russian despotism is following in the wake of that of Austria , in exciting the deluded peasantry to murder the nobles suspected of patriotism . Fearful massacres are said to have taken place in White Russia .
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FRANCE . Tire Scarcitt . —The Paris papers of tbw week report further advances in the prices of grain . The Heforvie states t' < at its commercial a'Wice « from Brittany and Normandy ate fewfttl . The Riformt anticipates very serious disturbances at Cherbourg . Queen Christina reached Paris on Sunday forenoon . SPAIN . The Gabust 8 . —A Barcelona letter of the ? th instant , quoted by the Journal des Debate of Saturday , mentions another attempt which the Monteronlinist partisan , Tristany , has made on the small town of Tarrasa . situate in the mountains , eight leagues north of Barcelona . Tristany , at the he iti of three hundred men , had taken possession of the place , bnta detachment of the Queen ' s forces having" hastened up , he was compelled to retire , with the loss of several killed and wounded en both sides .
The Gazttte of the 9 th contained Royal decrees removins General Breton from the government of Catalonia , and naminir General Pavia as his successor , and appointing Gem-rat Manuel Concha Captain-General of Old Castile , with the command of the Army of Observation on the frontier of Portugal . PORTUGAL . Thb Civii , War—InteliigfBce has been received from Lisbon to the 10 th instant . The liberty of the press bad again been suspended foramonth . Monetary and commercial affairs were very bad . A meeting of the principal people , merchants , and others , had just taken place to hear some proposition of the Cnndede Tojal on monetary affairs . The meeting ended in tumult and confusion , and was adjourned
to the next day . The queen is said to be Tery unpopular . Marshal Saidanha had net advanced beyond Olivira
of the troops of the line of Braga watching Ca * al General Guedes was at Amarante observing Vinheas and Lapa . Cesar Va 3 conce ] lt : s and General Bernardino were at the right bank of the Douro to dispute its passage with Marshall Saldanha sliou'J he attempt it . The greatest energy and activity reigned in Oporto . Fonr English merchant vessels sailing from Oporto with cargoes of wine were seized by the blockading squadron , and sent as prizes to Lisbon . GERMANY . Emigration * . — -In various parts of Germany the impulse of emigration has gathered strength lately , and it has become a serious question how to facilitate the transport and settlement of the emigrants . On the 3 rdinst . a meetiuf was held at Darmstadt , foi the purpose of instituting a "National Society foi the Assistance of German Emigration and
Colonization . ' Among the countries mentioned as suitabli for emigrants , were Algeria , Corrientes in Souili America , but , more immediately , North America , especially the states of Illinois , Indiana , and Iowa . PlUSCE MeITESSICH Axn the Prussian Cosstitotion . —The Cologne Gazette ot the 12 th inst , an nounces that Prince Metternich has given his opinion on the new Prussian constitution in the following reply to a deputation from the nobility of Bohemia , who prayed the establishment of a national bant : after the example given by the King of Prussia " The example of Prussia , " said Prince Metternich " cannot in any manner serve as a rule of conduct foi Austria . Austria heed 3 not the Teports and tin nohy contests of parties . She rather seeks to ad vance calmly , in order not t « prepare for herself pain ful deceptions which might succeed hopes too easily excited . "
HUNGARY . Scarcitt op Food . —The misery which prevails in Hungary is such , that acts of horror have been committed such as are not to be surpassed in accounts ol cities famished by a long siege . A workman at Pestli , being no lono CT a y to provide for Ws numerous famil y , walked with two of his children to the banks of the Danube , and threw the youngest into the stream ; but his anguish at seeing it struggle for its life in the waters , impelled him to jump in to endeavour to save it . The child that \ mkft , «> t , \ ie bank uttered cries of distress , and said that he would not ask again for bread , if they would but save bis father 1 he man was saved , but the child he had thrown in was drowned . The uahappy man has been imprisoned , and the authorities have taken charge of his family .
RUSSIA . MAS 3 ACRKS EXCITED BY THK O 0 VEBKMBST . Advices received in Paris from St . Petersburg !) , bring accounts of scenes of murderand pi'hfct vshien have lately taken place in the government ol Mohilef , in White Russia , where severalvillages have been the theatre of massacres resembling those which took place last year in Galicia . It appears that at a banquet given by the officers of a Russian regiment to the principal inhabitants of the place where they were quartered , on the occasion of their leaving the sarnson , toasts were given hostile to the government , and even to the person of the Emperor , and were received with acclamations . A report of tUw
incident was transmitted to the superior authorities , in which , however , the actors were only-accused of imprudence , after having drunk too copiously . Nevertheless , several officers of the regiment were degraded , and reduced to the rank of private soldiers . An insurrection followed among the peasants , on the property of several of the principal inhabitants who bad signalised themselves by . the manifestations hostile to the eovernnwnt at the above-mentioned banquet . The ; e peasants assembled in bauds , excited by drink , pulased the chateaux , murdered the proprietors amidst cries of " Long live the Emperor , " and even took the lives of those individuals of their own class who would not share in their proceedings '
ITALY . Asti-AusTBUNMovEMESTs . -LetterBfrom Pisa of the 7 th instant bring the intelligence that apolitical movement took place in that city on the occasion ol the arrival of the Archduke Ferdinand d'Este , nephew of the Emperor « . f Austria , who had been c ; vU and military governor of Galicia during the massacres of hut year . In the course of the day croAds assembled in front of the palace where ke was staying , for the purpose of manifesting their 5 ! u . P r ?^ ° « . wheneverhe might appear in public 1 he authorities
called out the gendarmerie , and dispersed these assemblacca . At midnight , a loud report was heard , which ' spread alarm through the \ 7 tl ' . n n app < a d i ] * t * P etard bad been deposited in thccellarsof thepalace . which had been discharged by a train , Ihe explosion shook the building , brelk-A ^ if " ^ and ^ f ? ° f the adjacent houses . A great agitation prevailed in the town . Placards were every day postedin the streets containing offensive invectives against the Austrians . The police were actively employed , and s « eral arrestshad taken
iblf n ? -ID , front J ° f the 8 th instant state , Wri » r andlDg th ? measwea ad ° Pted by the Dasssartstfttas'te . SSs «^ BSfiSS 3 S ?« ess » The allotted period of the existence of the United States Congress has , ere this , passed aww with the things that were . It legally expi ^ d ou l ? l u wf had
kmi * ^ j ^ " ^ Treasury introduced & bill Wise the duty ten per cent , additional on iron and certain iron manufactures , and five per cent on manufactures in cotton , if dyed , wlouted , printed ,
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or stained , and exceeding in value thirty cents , per square yard . The Act to cease two years after the peace with Mexico , but the amount to be collected on all goods before that day . The question of permittingslavery in conquered territories , was still before the Sena'e . Mr President Polk tad sent a message to the senate and House of Representatives . It is dated February 13 ih , and refers to the proceedingsof the United States army from the date of his annual message up till the period of the present one , and recommends that the Act of May 13 , authorizing the President to accept tho services of volun'eers , may be amended of its defects , so that the number and usefulness of t ! mt portion of the United States troops may be kept up unimpaired . Ho also recommends the imposition , as a war measure , of revenue duties on soite of the articles now embraced in the free list ; of these he names tea and coifce , a moderate duty on which he estimates at two-and-ah » lf millions of dollars . or aUine d , and exceeding in value thirty cenUper
The news from the seat of war , received at Washington on the 25 th ult ., was gloomy . The Mexicans had resorted to a system of guerilla warfare ; had cut off an outpost of eighty Kentucky men , and hnd intercepted a bodyof te ' ndragoonscarryingdispatches from Gen . Scott to Gen . Taylor . They are said to have lassoed the lieutenant in command , and carried off the despatches containing the whole plan of intend edoperation . The captured Americans included Major Borland and Captain Gaines and Cassius M . Clay . In a more formidable affair , however , tho United States Koldiei-a were victorious . But to counterbalance
this success , there is intelligence of the shipwreck ot a transport ship near Tanipico , with 400 volunteers , all of whom were captured by the Mexicans . Stmpatht fob Ireland . —We find that in New xork cit y contributions continue to increase . The churches are all taking up collections , wiihout distinction of sect , benevolent societies are contributing freely , places of public amusement are giving benefits tor the augmentation of the relief fund , and popular speakers and [ iterary men are dovof ing themselves to the same praiseworthy object . The contributions ttmmghoutthe United States , as far as heard from , amount to 142 , 000 dollars .
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THE PROPOSED GOD-MOCKING AND PEOPLE-INSULTING FAST . TO TOE EEITOB OF THE NOBTBEBK STAB . Sir , — The Maworms are at work , and have fixed the 24 th instant for a Fast—a black fast , some say ( as black as a Mavvorm ' s heart ); but at all events a fast , and a fast for what ? for the niggardliness ot a bounteous providence , and the sins of a really too uonest people . Was ever ingratitude more complete either against God or man ? was ever God so mocked , or the people so iusuhed ? Talk of fasting , sir , why too many have already fasted , and to death , in the midst of plenty ! Why , then , mock either Gud or man with a last lor plenty which
aircady exists ? Sir , there is plenty everywhere ; w .-. at ia wanted is uo . vet to purchase with , and this the Maworms take goud care the people shall not have . I trust that the Chartists will to a man turn this fast to a good account ; ay , such account as will make the Maworras regret making false charges against either God or m » u . There is , in reality , iio famine beyond what the moneynionger * themselves have created through depriving the people of money to buy fuod with , and . nose more than the montymongering Maworuis know this . IIbsut D . Griffiths .
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STATE OF IRELAND . ( From ouroivn C ' orropondent . ) Since I last wrote to you things have grown frightfully worse . The victims of famine are dying around us with such rapidity , thatin many instances persons cannot be found to iuter them . What with typhus fever , dysentery , and lack of food , Drogheda will , cro summer is past , be reduced to half its population . Such is the unfeeling apathy with which many rich men look on the decimating of their neighbours , that the relief committee were forced to publish a list of the defaulters to the soup kitchen , in the hope that they might shame these wealthy Curistiass into giving some assistance to the pour . Bad as this state of tbinus arc , we have Very little reason lor hoping tkatthey have come to the worstyet .
1 have , within the last lew weeks , been over a lar ^ e partcf Meath , Louth , aiidMouaghm , and from my own observation , and from all inquiries 1 have made , I & < n forced to conclude , that anything like the present scarcity never fell to the lot of the oldest inhabitant to witness . This gloomy picture is not relieved l > y the faintest speck of a good harvest this year . Thousands of acres are lying uneroploj ed : now , when they ought to bu mowing the oat crop , the poor tanners are not able to get food lor tucir families , much lass arc they able to sow their ground . What is sown , I regret to say , promises tiny thing but a good crop . Many farmers , trom the iuuulent manner in wUich they provide manure lor tlieir lands , arts
driven every year to a system aifallowing , that is , Uying the land idlciora wholeyear , as iflanU wanted rest ; all the rest land requires is good tillage , not giving it up for 12 months to the rearing ot weeds , these fallows are generally ploughed in September , and are sown with wheat and what is culled winter oats . Many thousands oi acres are thus sown every year . This year a more than usual amount of graia has been so planted , but alas ! tor Ireland , iVum some cause or other , hardly a \» y of the corn sown in " laliows" has grown . 1 have seen numerous ploughs at work turning up the land , in which wheat had been sown last October . The impression of the farmers is , that hardly as niucucorn will be got from " pin tallows" as it took to sew them .
Another loss will be sustained by farmers tkisyear in the partial loss of their " vetches" creps , ( spring vetches . ) The severe frost in December last nearly destroyed all the early so » n vetches . The time for sowing the oats is passim ; without a fractional part of the ground which should be devoted to this grain , being sown . The prospect before us « appalling in the extreme . The Star , thauk God , is no longer confined to the reporting of meetings which , good in tlieir way , holdout but distant i . o ,. es to the persons attending them : it is now showing how they can moat speedily release themselves horn tiie thraldom ofiniquitous inonej-grubbers , by besoming the siewaids ot their own labour , tho baukers of theirown capital , and by their self denying courage by which a sum of twenty thousand pounds has been
subscribed to purchase their plundered inheritance , giving the lie to those who igiiurantly assert that tlw people are too dissolute , too uneducated fur the exercise of the rights they claim . The Corporation met on Wednesday , the 10 th instant , the Mayor presiding . Councillor lieappock moved , and Councillor liellen seconded , a motion prayiug 1 ' aniament to abolish the Rate-paying clauses of the Rctoim Bill .. Carried una voce . A conversation ensued as to whom the petition should be entrusted to several couuuiLors , slating that , owing to the conduct of the member for Drogheda , Sir W . Al . Somervillc , they could not think ol aaking him to present it . Sir \ V . Ai . Soraerville has need to look out tor some other ulace against July next . His recent conduct on Mr W , S . O ' Brien ' s motion respecting the Catholic Ulergy
coupled with his opposition to Mr Duncombe ' s late motion , reeling the abolishing the ltateuaying clauses of the R « torm Bill , has leeaened materially the hold he possessed on bis Drogheda c mstitueucy . On the motion ot Mr . Keappoek , tue petition was entrusted to the people ' s representative Mr T . S . Duncombe . What a triumph to the Chartists of Drogheda to see iheir corporation driven to the necessity ot selecting the only Chartist iu the House ot Commons to aid them ia their exertions to abrogate a bad law ' . Who could have thought when Air O ' Connellcarae , specially , as he saki , in 18 U , to Drogho -a to crush CbartiBin , that we would have principles so worthily honoured b y the very man who aided him in his crusade ? So much tor having an i mist n an iu Parli . ment !
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A Lunatic . —An Irishman , who had been taken into custody on the charge of exciting a tumultuous assemblage of persons in Duke-street , by his extraordinary conduct in professing to be Elijah the Prophet , came to sound the trumpet of Millenium , and to blow the horn in Zion , has been removed to a unatic asylum , as there was no doubt whatever of his being insane ; Thb Genebal FAst .-On Tuesday the following mblic notice was issued in the city of London : — 'Her Most Gracious Majesty having issued a proclamation for a Public Fast , on Wednesday , the 2 ith instant , in consequence of the severe distress whieh exists in the United Kingdom , the Lord Mayor requests that his fellow-citizens will close their shops and abstain from all business on that day , o that it may be devoutly and reverently observed by all classes . "
Repbesentatiox of Westminster . -- On Tuesday a meeting of the electors of Westminster , resident in the parish of St . Anne , was he'd at Caldwell ' s Assembl y Rooms Dean-street , Soho . for the purpose of meeting Mr C . Cochrane and hearing from that gentleman a statement ot his political principles , and deciding , upon his eligibility to fill the vacancy in the representation of the city . Dariso BunoLAUT . —Between or . e and two on Monday morning , a daring burglary took place at the White Hart , Princess-row , Newport-market . The burglars , after breaking open the till , from which they took upwards of £ 6 in shillings , then took several pounds of cijars from a cupboard , and drank a quantity of wine , after which they took their departure , without causing the least alarm to the in-DlrtlCS *
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M 0 NDAY > MaBCH 15 « UUUSE OP LORDS—Sale of Fibeabms . —Eshora . TioN —Lord Stanley had three petition * to present , t « winch ho wished to call the attention of tho house . Tt . brat wan from the high sheriff and the whole ot the grand jury of the South Riding of Tipperary , in reference to tne unrestricted sale of firearms in that county . Thipetitioner ! « tatcd that they viewed with alarm theunprecedented sab of arms at Clonmel and other plact » , Muskets wera being sold in Ireland in large numbers , at prices varying from 2 s . 6 J . to 30 a ., aud the raanul ' ac turcrs of Birmingham were unable to make their supplies ke « p pace with tho demand . Tho fireurnu werv purchased chiefl y by labourers of the lowest grade , and It wa » a . common circuraitance for bojg engaged on the public works to purchage pistols out of their earnings
An auctioneer , who officiated at a recent sale of firearms in Clonmel , recommended liis articles by saving thatons of Ms muskets would be a receipt in full for last Novem . ber ' s rent , and would be warranted to bring down an ngtnt at 150 yards . ( Laughter . ) He could not blamr their lordships for laughing at what , at tho fiwt bluali , appears to be somewhat ludtcroua ; but when such r .. marks acc ompany tho sale ofnrearms . it was obvious that the trafficm them did not partake of the ordu > arv character of "ade , and that it was likely to be attended wtth dangerous results . ( Hear , hear . ) He had from private source , been made acquainted « ith an anecdote bearug upon the subject , which he would rditaTu " house . Some gentlemen passing through a district in winch pubhe works were going on observed IOn . e men in the middle of a a « M practising firing at a hatwhich *
. .. Bet up ai a targtU pon » spade handle , and every sboi was received with loud cheers . The persons thus oecu . pi « d were all noshing government pay on the public works . ( Hear , hear . ) Tlie petitioners prayed that thr Legislature would adopt measures to prevent the indiscriminate sale of firearms in Ireland . Tho noble lord then presented a petitiun from the grand jury of Tipperary in favour of the Interaction of vailwajs into lrtland upon a grand scale . He also presented a petit on from tho same body , praying for the establishment of i . n extensire system of emiRrmion , ar . d stated that , ultliougii he could not advocate the adoption of any very ext . nsive selleme of emigration bj governiiient . yutlie thought some encouragement ought to be given . He also inquired whether it wa » true that a tax had been imposed on emigrants by the State Legislature of New York .
EarlGBEt , in answer , said that such a tas had been contemplated . Lord Ashbdeton expressed his coucurrence in tbo views stated by Lord Stanley . Lord Monteaolb thought that , a prudent system of emigration would confer the greatest benefit on tlie country , but he fcavcditepreseut voluntary system was Joins an irreparable injury . After a few words from the Eirl of Devon , Lord Brougham , and Lord Mountcashel , tlie conversation dropped . The Loan Fund Bill then passed through committee , and the house adjourned . MONDAY , Maticu 15 . HOUSE OF COMMONS . —Lord Mobp th stated , In reply to Mr . C . Berkeley , that the Wellington i-tatue was to be removed from its present position , and that the expense would bu borne by the sub-committee . Lord J . Uussell stated , in answer to on inquiry made by Mr . James , that there would bs no interference on thi >
part of her Majesty to disturb the decision of the Provost of the College to discontinue the " Eton Montem . " His lordshi )) also stated , in reply to Lord G . BcntincU , that it was not tlie intention of government to propose , in tlie present session , any permanent lax , in lieu of the annual custom duties on sugar . The adjourned debate on the committal of the Toor Belief ( Ireland ) Bill was resumed by SirW . Clai , who contended that that bill , in combination with tho temporary relief bill which had been recently passed , would vest in the government the power of levying taxation on the whole of Ireland for the purpose of supporting the able-bodied poor , when in a state of destitution , out of the workhouse . It was no longer doubtful that Ireland ( roust have an efficient poor lawnot a poor law which did not take more than £ 300 , 000 a-year from an annual rental of £ 13 , 000 , 000 , but a poor
law similar in essence and in spirit to that of England , whieh would prevent a single individual from dying of starvation whilst one shock of corn existed in that country . The question then rose , what was that poor law to be , and how wns it to he applied ? Th » plan of poor law which WO ought to adopt was a cautious and gradual one , which should develops without oppressing the resources of Irclai d . He , therefore , approved the bill then before the liouse , not because he considered it u perfect law , but b , cause ho considered it the only law non practicable m tl . e present social transition of Ireland . He was , however , satisfied , that ultimately ihe poor law in Ireland must be assimilated to that iu England ; for the right of all ir en in destitution to relief must become part of the civil polity of Ireland if we wished to sse socurity to life and property , and consequLntly tranijuillitj and prosperity , prevail in Ireland , Captain Jones expressed , as an Irish member , his
admiration of the conduct of the peopb and the government of England towards his countrymen in their present alarming condition of distress . Lisng before that distress arose , it had bsta his opinion that an extension of the Irish poor law was necessary ; and he thought that It might have bien of this tUscription—that relief in the workhouse should be given to every person applying fruit in a state of destitution . He hud not been prepared , however , to give outdoor relief generally . Mr . V . Stuakt had always been of opinion that , in the present state of distvess , outdoor relief must'be granted to the able-bodiud labourer iu destitution . The present pour law , in the present circumstances of Ireland , was a mere farce ; for now that tho potato crop was utterly destrojed , it was impossible to SBpport all the destitute in the workhouses . Mr G . A . Hamilton made a long speech against outdoor relief .
Mr . J . O'Cosne . thought that a much better time might have been chosen by the government for bringing forward the question of u permanent poor . law for Ireland . Ho felt compelled , however , to support the nieasure now before the house , although hu would do so uot for the reasons assigned for its support by Lord J . Uus . sell . His reason for supportiug the bill was , that be was ready to snatch at anything calculated to save a few lives . It may temporarily do a little good , and for that reason he would vote for it as a forlorn aud desperate hope , and not in ttie MM that it was a mei . ure which would be permanently beneficial to the country . It tock five millions sterling to support tho fourteen hundred thoasand paupers of Englaud . In Ireland the poor-law , in going into operation , would find from three to four millions of paupers to begin with , and taking tHe proportion which England paid for the support of its poor , what would Ireland have to pay to support nearly treble the number ? One strong objection whieh he had to the bill was , that under its operation the small ratepayers
would break down . Another arose from the vtoposed constitution of tho boards of guardians , which would , in his opinion , go far to prevent the bill from doing that amount of good which it might bo othenviso competent to effect . He called upon the house to repudiate the clause having reference to the appointment of ex-ogido guardians . They wtre unjustly taxing and grinding down the poor ratepayer in Ireland , whilst tiny were letting the rich absentee go free . A large loan should have been advanced to Ireland , which the honourable gentle , maa went back to the " tn-aty of union" to show Would have been but a mere measure of justice to Ireland , Repealers had been tauntingly asked what they would have done for Ireland in the present emergency had they had theirown parliament which the Imperial Legislature wns not now doing . They certainly could not have dane worse for Ireland than tho Imperial Legislature had done for it , whilst there were resources in Ireland whieh her own Parliament , had it existed , would have called forth in a manner which would have prevented ninny of the misciies to which that country wa » now subjected .
Lord CocaTEtUY , as nn absentee Irish landlord , gave his cordial support to Uib bill , which ho thought ivoulo act as u wholesome stimulant tuimproveiaent , both to the landlord and labourer . Sir D . Norreys and Major Layatd supported the principle of out-door relief . Mr . Vtsey opposed it . Lord J . Masnebs said that by the failure and disap . pearanee of the potato crop , GOO . 000 heads of families would in future be deprived of their usual source of food . Nobody would assert that these could b « nmintained bv any system of Poor Law relief ; aud therefore he wnV bound to consider what were tho measures which Government had introduced to enable this Poor Law to work in Ireland Ile admitted that those measures wengood so far as they went ; but he insisted tb » t they wmquite inadequate for the object for which they were pro .
posed . The first of the measures proposed by Lord J Kussell was the advance of a million for the reclamation of waste lands . Now he understood that th « expense ol reclaiming an acre was about £ 8 . so that not more than 120 , 000 aer « s would be reclaimed , He Calculated tint 5 , 000 heads of families would be maintained on this num her of ncrcs ; and therefore 0 , 000 must be subtract * ., from the 600 , 000 heads of families to which ho ra . d already alluded . Lord J . Russ . ll had also told tli . house that he did not intend to make any great increase to the usual grant for emigration . He , therefore , thouthi , hat he should make a liberal allowance to the nohi , lord , if he allowed him to subtract another 6 000 on th . jcore of persons relieved by emigration . He then tooli a succinct view of the relief wUich Lord John Urjsse would grant by his piun of extending fisheries , pmrnot public work and
. ing * , producing greater employment on the soil of Ireland by his loan to the landlord . ; and lak . ing all those items together , he could not arrive at a ,. ) other conclusion than this-that not mom than 100 . 00 b heads oi familtcs would be relieved altogether by tho Go . vcrnroent measures . That « Ould leave SOO . OCO heads oi families , or a population of 2 , 000 , 000 of souls to be relieved -and how was it to l 0 done ? Nothing half so good had been proposed for that object as the railwny svhvwv of Lord George Bentinck , which had been rejected by the house to save a Ministry which Lord G . Beutinck had not opposed . On that point he would uot say more , us he believed that after Easter an hon . gcntlemau neur him , whose opinion , liuo hu own , had been more Mid more strengthened b y reflection as to the necessity of that great measure , would bring that subset again before the house . ( Hear , hear . ) Ur . I . iBODCUEMobMmatnat Uti 3 Mannn > ngQ not bjected so much , to this mmvure la ito » tf M b « b » i
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objected t 9 i ' . s not being siucompunied by other incii . ture > much more extensive . Ho could not I ut suspect that his lo rdship wa » alluding to tha railway project of Lord G . Bentinck , and that the loss of that measure wns hit Principal inducement to oppose this bill . Into that project »» it had been already disposed of , ho decline . ) to " . cr tu ° uel > on general grounds he wished it to be laerstood that he wB& nnt opposed to the establishment o th'it r " ClaKd > 1 Ie then Oefcn'l " » ' « Iandlords Iilr . ^ ' » Particularly eulogized the munificent liberality ' eul 0 * Izea lm 00
of wVn « . ? . the people of Bite ? fc ^ > ° * ' w" hlld rescui'd fifties , in his n fghbifo ? i , * " 6 C ° rC 8 ' but in many Irish Ian . Sd , hJd nl ,, "' ' ? * dn > Ittil « tllB ' 5 £ SS . ISSS = ps = gil interest in tbe employment of the poor by throwing Z support of the poor upon them when unmplojed
. . tW- ; -f ?'!??? Nc 0 IDra ( i n «< iby assuring the hou « thatu Ireland had bad a national legislature , not one ol his countrymen would have died of starvation . The mosey spent by the government in Ireland had ? B a great degree , been thrown away . Everything that ' the government had done was faulty ~ all that it had conceived was unwise . Thousands of his countrymen had starved solely through its blundei ings , and innumerable mischiefs had arisen from the mode in which it had n » i » - appVied its funds in Ireland . Ha despaired of doing much good by the " Irish party ; " but if it did noihnu
more , It had effected some good in creating n kindly feeing between n portion of the Irish members ana several mernbrrs in that houso , who had seldom sympnthiud vvithtlu-m btfore . He deprecated the unkmdlj expressions vh . cn iind been used by some Irish inembm th . !? ,, ? * ° ' llr " ^ ' ted their country to save so co S S ; ' °° rClief ' '" "' 8 i 8 t < d "PC a poor law « lZatS > K ^ ?" CCOlnpailleilby ' ' WtaT » mTOW « ' T ! lT , Z \™ kast tlmt couId be *» or it Wouu to , that it would be inoperative
Mr Uoebock rose to vindicate himself from certain charKf S which had been made ngnin&t him . One lion , gentleman accused him of spite towards tUo Irish landlords . But he never could ascertain exactly who the Irish landlords wire . Ho believed that thertnllandlords at Inland were the taxgatlu-rcr nnd the mortgagee , against whom he certainly hnd never uttered a worti iii that house or elsewhere . Hon . gentlemen opposite , in ostensibly attacking tho irincipleof out-door relief , in reality attempted to impugn everything in the shape of a poor-lair . The law had not betn hitherto the protector of the lowest orders in Ireland . The possession of a small portion of land was absolutely necessary for th * support of a family in that country , and us it was upon land alone , and not upon the lav . - , that the Irish ptnsaiu had to precipitate himscif for the susienance of liin ^ elt
nnd family , it was no wonder that the agrarian outrages existed in Ireland of which they had heard so much . What was now wanted mi to introduce into that couni try the mild spirit of the law , aud to teach the Irish peasant to look to that for support in the days of his destitution , instead of exclusively depending upon \ b » possession of a small patch of land , of whieh he found that he had to possess himself . it all hazards . And who opposed this righteous wish » Who but the Irish landlords « What the Rentletuen ' . of England uow wanted was to extend to their Irish fellow . subjects that which thev had already granted to their fellow-suljects here , and no move . Ireland , in the mouths ol Irish landlords , meant nothing but themselves , and when they Buid that Ireland was going to be ruined by a poor-law , all that they meant was , that they were now going to be compelled
to do their duty . Irelnnd , during tho last ten or twenty years , had advanced in a greater ral ) than any other country in Europe , and it was became they were advancing that so many of the Irish pcoplo were now crying out against the manner in which they wero treated . Ireland must nwt , it seemed , depend upon the Bood feeling of Englaud and Scotland , and it behoved Irish members , in these circumstances , not to try too rtuch tho strength of the ligament whieh bound these two countries to heland . The bill befors them was a great act of justice due from England to Ireland , which through the Irish landlords , hnd long done wrong to Ire ' , land ; and if the wrong came from her , he saw no reason why she slx . uld not now bo tho source of justice to tl > at country . He would Bivo tha Mil a cor . 'ial support , although he believed it to be inadequate to nv et the evil which it was intended to rcm « dy .
After a somewhat desultory discussion , in which Co ) Verner , Mr . M . J . O'Conneil , Mr . I ) . Cailaghan , and Sir A . Brooke took part , tho house resolved itself into the proposed comaiittee , but immediately resumed and adjournod . TUESDAY , March 16 . HOUSE OF LORDS . —A select committee was np . pointed , on the motion of Lord Lyndhnrst , to inquire into tho transactions relating io the sale of the Birmingham and Oxford Junction Railway to the Great Western E lilway Company . _ The muster of peers , which this contest bolween the rival companies , the Great Western and North Western , attracted , far exceeded that brought down by any other business this session . A long debate took place on tho subject , which was terminated by the appointment of a committee . Lord Monteagle cave notice for this day week to move for a seltct committee on ihu subject of l ' oor Relief for Ireland .
The reports of DieLoaa Bill and Consolidated Fund Bill were received , ng ] the home adjourned , TUESDA Y , Mabcu 1 G . HOUSE OF COMMONS .-Lord Albert ConyngUam was introduced by Lord Jlarcui Hill and Sir W . SomervUle , and took the oaths and his seat us Member for Canterbury . Tub Wellington Statue . —Mr Collett wished to ask the Noble Lord the First Commissioner of the Woods and Forests in what site was tho Wellington statue to be erected , aud at whuse expense was it to be put up ? He begged also to ask when tho Nelson co ! um « would be finished t ( A laugh . ) Lord Morpetb said , that he had alread y stated that tho Wellington sthtue would ba erected at Wnteilooplaca . It would he removed , at the ixpense ' of tl e subcommittee , but again erected at the expense of the government . A 3 to tho Nelson column , ho had recently g : ven fresh orders that bus reliefs should be placed on l ! e pedestnl of the column .
ibe E . \ rlof Likcoln inquired whether the proposal to plnce tho statuo at Waterloo-place had been referred to a body of competent persons ? ( A laugh . ) Lord MoitPETH—I think it has been considered and decided by competent persons . ( "Hear , hear , hear , " and laughter . ) Amongst other persons whom 1 consider oompetent are to be included the government to which the noble lord belonged —( laughter )—for Sir Robert Peel stated that one of tho sites suggested to the subcommittee was Waterloo-place . Subsequently in suswer to a question ftom Lord J . Manners , Lord JIorpeth said that the sub-cornmittee of the Wellington Testimonial had jLivcn no opinion , one way or the other , as to tha site proposed by the government They left the statuo upon the arch to bo dealt with a * the government thought best . ( Loud laughter . ) Admission of tue Pcbuc to See tue New Hodses of i ' abliament ,
To a question put by Sir De L . Evans , the noMe lord replied that , as ho contidercd those who paid for the building of the Houses of Parliament ought to have an opportunity of inspecting them , ho would , at tho end of the session , consult upon the best way of admitting the public to view the ne . v palace of Westminster . Factories Bat . —Upon the order of tho day for the adjourned debate on Cracow , Mr Den . nistoun said that he wished , with the permission of the house , to bring a matter to its notice wliich was of very great tmd also of very pressing importance . The Speaker—The hon . member is out of order . The order of the day lins been read for the motion relating to Cracow . The honourable member cannot sp ? ak on any other sulject . MrDENNiSTOus—I rose to sp * ak before tho order of the day was read . ( Hear , hear . ) Tin Speaker —If the hon . member assure tho house that he rose before tbe order of the day was read , h » is entitled to proceed . ( Hear , hsar . )
Jlr Dennistoun resumed—The house was awnre that the Factories Bill stood for to-morrow . Now , the manufacturing interests bad been so talwn aback by the large majority against them the other day that they seemed to have been quite overwhelmed , and to have taken no steps oh that most important subject . Under these circumstances , it was not till yesterday that he had veeevved a communication from some of his constituents , making a proposal which seemed calculaud to mest tlie wishes of ihe supporters of the bill mid at the same time to maintain the productive pow < rs of the country . He would not then enter into the
details Ot Wftt proposal , but he had placed it in the hands of the noble lord at the head of tho government . That proposal had come from Glasgow only yesterday , nnd it was impassible , therefore , that the great manufacturers of Lancashire had as yst been able tn consent to it , or to express Rn opinion with re'j ; ard to it . It would , however , be in Lancashire that imrniug , and no doubt in a few days the millowners of that country would hav « made up their minds with reg'lr . i to it . As it was most desirable , if possible , to obtain their consent to a bill fur the relief of tho labourers in ihe factories , he trusted that-the honourable member for Oldhiim would consent to a postponement of the men .
suro . Ho lud given notice yesterday to the hou . member of the remarks he had just made , and ho regretted to ilnd that the lion , gentleman was not in . his ylace ; but liu trusted that the noble lord woul . \ make a request to Mm to put off the bill for n shoes < p « riod . In the absence of tha lion , member , perhaps , the hon . nnd learned member for CueUermouth , who&a name was also on the back of the bill , might consent to- its postponement ( The statement ofi the hon . mamber « , » listened to with deep iilenec . nod , nwed to product contiawablo sensation and sunrise . ) Lor */* . BosstLl-It is qahe hu 6 that the hon .-g . ntu-m ^ car -ne *« me with one of » i \ s constituents with pror j 0 wl which tll 0 hon gHnthman tllink 9 wlu m € Ct l >* . views of the supporter * of this bill , and which he also imks will be , in the opinion of the manufacturers , far tcss objectionabU than the VUUtlt at present sUndj . l » ow , I should say that the proposal seemed tom »» feasible one , though my opinion ilone iiBOtofmucj
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value utttiuut continuing tlnMiuinutauiuieis us to matter * of detail , with which they alone are conversant . I cannot ' therefore , ask the hon member for Oln . lam to postpone the progress of the bill , for I am not sure that the pro . posal will meet the- wishes of the manufacturers . The honourable member fur Oldhatn mutt judge forhirnielf " whether it will be right to postpone tlie bill ; but if ha does postpone ; it , confess that I should be glad if the bill could pass in a shape which would meet the wishes of both parties . ( Cheers . ) Mr Aolionbt raid that has he had been Bpp . aledto hemustitate that he had no uuUimi y Jrom the lion , meinbrr for Ol . lhani to consent to the postponement of tbe liil 1 . At the same time he believed tlmt tin-hon , member , nnd the operatives of England , would consent to any proposal that wis reasonable or fair .
Mr Hume snid that after the opinion in favour of tho fresh proposal given by tl'e Prime Miuiettr , tlie matter became of very great importance , and he trusted that t o supporters of the bill would consent to its postpone . m « at . Mr Hijidlet said that the greatest difficulty always att' -nded the tfF « rU of a private member to get a bill through the hous--, and the course of the bon . member for Glasgow had been anything butfair . He told them that he had a proposal to make , but lie neither told them what it was , nor from whom it came . ( Hear , hear . ) Ho hoped thst the house would proceed , without any postnontmitnt , to the third reading of ihe bill . Mr BoRTiiwrcK protested against tho present pro * ceeding , both In form and substance . Surely tho night before the bill was again to be discussed , Yav not tha proper tim , to make a new proposal ? Why had it not been made long ng 0 ? ( Hearhear )
, . Dr Boweino thought that the hon . member for Glasgow had done all that he could do , in the circumstances in wind , he lisa been plnwil . A sufficient firoun * for postponement had been assigned , und the bill should not be hurried on . MrFEBUAND said that tho only way to getridofthe difficulty was to pass the bill as it stood . ( Hear , hear . ) If they refused to d . > so , he could toll them that an . agitation would take place in the country great , r than any they had known for i . ges , And the reason was this . The operatives found that , by means of fgitation tha AnH . Corn Law League had gained the success of tUeif ol . jeots , and he thought that if b y such means the Anti . I torn Law League could be succesvful surely tho poor ; perativts of the country might . ( Cheers . ) In answer to Lord G . Bentinck .
Viscount I ' aimemtos said that her Majesty ' s Govern , ment had hail no official intimation of any duty having been imposed upon emigrants by any of the , State Legis . latures in Ameriei . All that was Known in refurer . ee to the sal ject was , that it had been under consideration in . the United States . Chacow—The adjourned debate on Cracow was then resumed by ' i Sir J . Waisu , who dtprecatcd the proposition of Mr Hume , as tending actually to involve us in that course ofenuduct which had been shadowed forth asthej . robalile policy of France in certain eontingencies-in th » liyp . tUetiMllangUiijjcofM . Guizot , which lauguagehad been someuhat misinterpreted by Sir It . Peel , when ho denounced it the other evening . He condemned the late "Cracow insurrection" as undeserving of the sympathies
of Europe . The smallt-r states of the continent had c . bli . gatious imposed upon them as well « s the larger , which . they were equally bound with the larger to fulBl . Amongstthe obligatio ; mposed upon the smaller states , the duty of neutrality was one of tho most prominent . Uie recent conduct of Cracow was undoubtedly a violat . on Of its duty in this reject . As a » aSMt Crac » w , then , tho great Powers had certainly a strong case . This bunc so , it would b e unwise , especially considering the present state of the continent , for this country to take any sttps which mi ght compromise it witU the east of Europe . It would bo unwise at any time for it to resort to a petty measure of hostility against any power such
as was proposed in the resolutions before the hobBe . It was said by a high authority that England could not carry on « little war , and in his opinion itwas . qually impossible for her to stoop to a lntle measure . Besides , this was not a time , from many considerations , when It would be prudent in us to give ¦ ' causeless umbrage , " or to heap " unnecessary affront * " upon the Three Northern Powers . He concurred in the course which the Govern , ment had taken , in presenting n protest to the conducts of these powers , beuause he believed that they were , hound to have communicated with this country beforetaking the steps which they hud taken in n-fervnee to Cracow , and so concur ) ing , he was prepnred to vote with Lord J . ttu « sell for the previous question .
Lord Habet Vane could only regard with animadversion the conduct of tho three powers in regard to Cru . « ow ; but he did not thiuk it advisable under existing circumstances , for the House to affirm the resolutions now before it .
Mr Stcart Woutiey was afraid that a false impression would go , " abroad if the previous question were put in reference to this subject . If be had any influence with Mr Hume , he would counsel him , after the very general expression of indignation to which the House had already Riven tent during the progress of this discussion to re . frain from press-ng tbe first resolution . If that resolution were pressed , he did not seo bow the house could avoidaffivmingit . lie wasread y to admit , that if they were disposed to avail themselves of their present positurn , it was open for fr em to take advantage of it to avoid the payments alluded to in the other resolutions . But looking to the importance of the treaty of Vienna in other respects , and to the benefits which it was yU capable oi semiring to Europe , he conceived it would be tho height of impolicy for thi * country to adopt such a
course-He was not ready to admit , however , that the circumstances under which the loan in question had been con . traded had been c » ree ly stated b ySir W . Molesworth and other * , who assorted it to be a debt chargeable upon this country , in consideration of the retention by it , after tua war , of the formerl y Dutch colonies of tbe Caps of Good Hope , Dcmerara , Essequibo , and Berbice . Ourretention of these colonies could not be regarded in the light of a purchase , but as an exception to our course in refer , ewce to other colonies , whieh had been restored to Holland at the close of th « war . The obligation under wliich we camo to pay the loan was a distiuet and independent obligation . We did Rot covenant to pay as security for Holland . The oligation was not to cease even in the event of war between the parties . Tho reason why this provision was inserted into the convention was , that the money which we stipulated to pay was to go to tho private creditors of Russia nnd Holland . But it couia not be supposed that this provision Stipulated for tlie payment the
o . money in the event oC si wav « tetag from - . my cause . The maintenance of the gtates of Europe according to tha arrangements of the Congress of Vienna was one of the considerations for which we became llablo to pay the money . It couM not , therefore , ba mnintaiised that in the event of n war arisiDg from a breach of the tuaty of Vienna by Russia , we would still be liable to pay . The consideration of a treaty was the condition to a treaty . Had that consideration in this caise foiled 1 If so , the other parties to the treaty were nt liberty , if they chose , to absolve themselves from its obligations , "hat consideration had in part been broken by Russin ; and England , if she chose , might avail herself of this breach . But the question still remained , whether it would bo Wise or even just to take advantage of it ? In deciding this question , thej should bear in uiiu . l that Russia had substantially adhered to tbe treatyof Vienna , and that sho still evinced a desire to maintain the general arrangement of Europe . Although , then , that treaty had undoubtedly been violated in one of its provisions ,
Europe had still too much to gain from its maintenance to justify us in casting it to the winds on account of the breach oflt in reference to Cracow . The proper course for England now to pursue was to pass the-present breach by , and to hold the parties to the treaty to a strict adherence to its remaining provisions . He trusted the country would takethedignifiedco ' urstrecommended to it by Lord John Russell , when Europe and the world would ive it credit for the maintenance of that faith winch had aver distinguished its foreign poliev . If Mr Hume pressed his first motion to a division he could not but vote for it , but in reference to the remainm- resolulions he could not take any step to interrupt the conti . nned payment of tlie Russo . Dtitck loan .
Mr Christie agreed with those who held that , in voting for resolutions like those now before them , the houso would travel out of its proper sphere . The question for the government to consider was , whether a violation of the Treaty o { Vienna on the part ot Russia absolved Eng . land from the pavnient of the money in question . If it did , it was the duty of the government to withhold that puyment . He denied that , in such case , it would be " shabby" so to withhold it . If , on the other hand . Em I aid v at not absolved from this pajjaeit . hi rcondm t m withholding it would be worse than •' shabl . y "—would be indeed ns reprehensible ns was the conduct of the three
Powers , which Mr H « me was so anxious to condemn . The honourable gentlenun then commented with considerable severity upon the speech uellvtred by Lord 6 . Bentinck , on Thursday evening last , adducing the barbarities of Minsk , " and the "savage murders of Gal . hcia . " a sufficient answer t » tho cuU > slum pnssed by tho noble lord npon the Emporovs of lWa and Austria , p J ; ' n , ° ' Bbien ^ Pwed off the conduct of the trench Chambers , in r . nnually protesting against the partition of Poland , and thought it was competent for tho liouse of C- mmonsto entertain thepropositioupresented " to it by the house .
Mr B . Escott supported the resolutions . Mr S . wwrtley had conclusivel y proved tli ^ tllio money formerly paid to Russia was no lonje * duo ; but , as a represent . ahve of the people of England who hart to pay tl . e money , he was ready , although it was no longer duo , to vote tor its continued payment . He ( Mr B . Escott ) was astonished at the course thus taken by tho right bon . member for Bute . The first half of Lord 3 . Russell ' s speech was also an unawswerable argument to show that the money was no longer due , and yet the noble lord insisted that tho payments should be continued . Sir R . Peel had shown that , without an act of indemnity , this tneney could not have been pnid by fte Ministry in 1 S 32 . The act of that year placed the paymetitof the money upon
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Mabch 20 , 1847 . ^ THE NORTHERN STAB . I . ' . . " ' ' -- t
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Citation
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Northern Star (1837-1852), March 20, 1847, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1410/page/7/
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