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INDIA AND CHINA . Letters » nd papers in anticipation of the overland oadbavebeea msived . The latest datesby thS srtsrssatia " « - ** - •** Jffi gSE ?" ** atMadraS * ** The stateof affairs in China is still very nnsatisfactory ; we extract the following from the Friend o ) China ol May 24 : — ~~~
"Since the departure of the last monthly mail Canton has engrossed the attention of foreigners in this quarter . The results of Sir John Davis ' * expedition are being [ developed . The capitalists are leanng the Ticimty of the factories , being apprehensive of danger , either from their own countrymen should disturbances take place , or from foreign troops , should the Governor of Hong Kon" repeat hiawaHton aggressions . Several of the natfve merchants are insolvent , being unable to meet the demands upon them , in consequence of the shrof&or banking-houses , having closed . Forei gn trade is in a state of stagnation , all the staples having fallen in pnce . r » or are foreigners free from danger an attack on the factories only being checked by the presence of a small body of British troops A ¦ cnsB isapnroaching , the consequences of which cannot be foreseen , but a rupture with China halibut unavoidable .
Tiie French government has received a second telegraphic despatch , dated Malta , the Uth ; acconnfa 6 mi Canton to the 23 d ; and Hong Kong , the 25 th of May . No business doing at Canton . Keying has been menaced by the mob that his palace should be burned if he granted the ground promised to the English . Mr Pope , who had been sent to inspect the ground , had abandoned his
purpose . Afresh expedition against Canton was expected , which would be mote sanguinary than the last . The Plato was stationed abreast the factory . The Scout has been ordered to approach as near Canton as possible .
FRANCE . Conclusion of the State Trials . —We announced in our last the verdict of Guilty recorded against M . Teste , General Cnbieres . and M . Parmentier . On Saturday the court gave judgment . M . Teste was condemned—1 st . To civil degradation . 2 nd . To three years imprisonment . 3 rd . To pay back the 9 t 000 f ., which sum is to be rgiven to the hospitals of Paris . 4 th . ToafineoflO . OOOf . General Cnbieres and M . Parmentier are each 'Condemned—1 st . To civil degradation . 2 nd . To a fine of lO . OOOf . each . General Cubieres had a very narrow escape of having imprisonment added to this sentence , a majority of one only being in his favour .
fhe following extract from the penal code defines the meaning of " civil degradation . " " Art . 34 . Civil degradation consits , first , in | the exclusion of the persons condemned from all public functions and employments ; tecondlv , in being deprived ef the right of voting or being elected , and in general of all civil and political rights , and of the privilege of wearing any decoration . Thirdly , in beins incapable to serve on a jury , or to serve as a witness to If gal deed , or to give testimony on oath in a court of justice . Fourthly , in being incapacitated from forming part ot any family council , or of being guardian , or judicial counsel , unless for his oirn children . Fifthly , in being deprived of the right of carrying anna ot serving in the national guard or the French army , of keeping a school or being employed in any establishment of public instruction , as mister , professor , or usher . "
A letter from Paris of Sunday ' s date , says : — "Yesterday , when the sentence of the Court of Peers was announced to M . Teste . that portion of it which condemned h < m to imprisonment threw him into a violent state of frenzy , which pr oduced congestion ef the brain , and his wound threatened a dangerous abscess . To-day his state is such as to threaten serious consequences . A « soon as the judgment was intimated to General Cubieres he paid the various anms in which he was mulcted , amounting in the whole to 13 . 000 francs , and he was forthwith liberated . M . Parmentier will not be discharged until fee has in a similar manner paid the fine and his share of the cost ? .
The rumour which was generall y circulated on Wenday , of the return of M . Pellapra , is now officially confirmed . The MoniUur of Tuesday contains a summons to the members of the Coart of Peers to assemble on Friday , for the trial of that gentleman . The ifefczfe says that M . Pellapra arrived in Paris on Sunday evening , and on Monday surrendered himself a prisoner at the prison of the Luxembourg . It is thonght that the trial will not occupy the court more than one day , as it is probable that Al . Pellapra will plead guilty . The Union Jfonarckique says that the alarming rnmeurs that bad been current as to the state of health of M . Teste are confirmed . Ilia health is injured to such an extent that his family begin to entertain serious fears for his recovery .
The trial of the Communist Materialists concluded on Friday by the conviction of all the prisoners . They were sentenced to periods of imprisonment raryins from two to seven years . The Reforme contrasts the sentences of these unfortunate , with those passed upon the aristocratic corroptiomats . '' In one case , " says the Reforme , "the maximum ofpunishment ( seven years' imprisonment . ) is passed upon six unfortunate operatives convicted of a political conspiracy which had had no result . In another—where that hideous crimecorruption' —bad been committed by two illustrious ahd noble personages—the convicts are visited—one with civil degradation without imprisonment , and the other with a similar punishment , and three years ' imprisonment , ' so that he will escape with four yean les * of confinement than the parties convicted of a seditious conspiracy that had led to no outrage . And thi 3 is called equal justice !"
Emigration of French Commcshts . —The French Communists having lately suffered much persecution , are now proposing to emigrate , en masse , under the direction of M . Cabet , to found a Communist State , probably in America . M . Cabet was at one timea member of the French Chamber of Deputies , and 5 s also known as author of an History of France . His two chief Communist works are the Voyage en karie , an Utopian romance , from whence those who agree with his views have been called Icarians ; and Yrai Christianisme . ia which hebases Communism upon the faith of Jesus . lie also is editor of the -PopuVrire . in which paper he has developed the necessity of French Comnunist emigration . Ilisappeal to this effect has met with a willing response from the Communists in France , and their cry , —anew version of " To our tents , 0 Israel !"—is Ations en Iearie . They will emigrate at least by hundreds .
The Comiso Revolctiox . —A correspondent of the Edinburgh Weekly Register , writing irom Paris , says : — " In a few days we shall have the nsual celebration of the anniversary of the ' Three glorious Jays' of July 11830 . Bat for any real joy the people feel , the days might just as well be allowed * to pass over without notice ; for there is no denying , that not one ot the things for which the revolution was made has been accomplished . Liberty of the press is a farce ; individual liberty exists not , since it can be violated at any time , with thetno * t scandalous impunity ; the 'Chamber of Deputies id scarcely one whit more a representative of the people of France than i * . isot the inhabitants of Timbuctoo , for it is elected by a miserable minority of the nation , and by means of the moat infamous bribery and corruption . The fact is . that the revolution has been a gigantic
disappointment to the whole nation . It has placed Louis Philippe on the throne—but that jb all . The people now are beginning to be excessively indignant at having been duped so long . The food crisis , which still exists , and the depressed state of commerce , have increased their wrath , which has beenfurthe irritated by the recent scandalous disclosures . The consequence is . that a most uneasy feeling prevails Every one seems to expect that mischief is brewing . Some " people , indeed , pretend thattbeycan distinctly hear the rumbling of a coming storm . I know that al armists are apt to be laughed at ; and I myself , for one . have a supreme contempt for them ; but , at the risk of being set down as one of the tribe , I will venture to say . that from all I see and hear , it will be strange , indeed , if the people of this country much longer refrain from an attempt to overthrow the -government .
The Journal des Debate has fiercely assailed the Republican demonstration at the Chateau-Rouge on the 9 th Inst . We give the admirable reply from the National : — •¦ AH is lost . PaWic order is compromised . Anarchy is raising its hideous head . We are rolling from abyss to ahyjt to the fol'ies of Communism . The qosetitn before us relates to the rain of society ! It is the Journal des DtbaU which this morning otters this cry of alarm—• not aproptu of complaint—aot with respect to the scandalous trial not with regard to the ignoble proceedings of the government . No : those are great , pure , and glorious ! Bat the Reformist banquet of the Chatean-Itonge , that is the destruction of society ! That is the commencement of the abyss ! MM . Dovergier de lUuranne . Leon Malleville , Odillon Barrot , and eightj-fiveof of assist
tatir colleagues , have beer guilty of the infamy - ing at a banquet at which the King ' s health was not proposed ! Can you figure to yourself a similar horror The Sine the Urine aud incarnate law ! At that in . pions meeting it vras preferred to toait the sovereignty of the people and the revolution of July ! Wbatabomiuation ! The guests dared to utter ardent wisbrt for the reform of a legislation which has given ui 223 satisfied deputies , comprising M . Dugalie ! What oblivion of «« ry morality ! They went further—they speke of the rights of these excluded from political power , of the sufferings and the merits of all those citizens whose political laws pay labour by ingratitude . ' They appealed to the justice and the solicitude of public ¦ op ' mon against thoso odious iniquities of swwl organisation in opposition to the most numerous and Ill-treated * lassi . la that assembly of privileges , in the name of
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the census , all sentiment * were in accord to nrnni ,. the newssttyferoodifyin gthepoHtlcIl ta ^ meK ™ upporu , propagates , ana increase , all di . oSe " r . X ? x ^ jzzeess wmmM ** —** - * - ^ - 77 tbene «» rit J « o ^ iVnRthepoHtlcaliM t ™™ . ^ ! L , ?
ceive the wont compliment ! The elect of the lial n-S tu cotule ( l aentI f . "garded u a flock of functionar-Xl 7 J" coward « ° r poltroons because they assooate with the most select cf the electors ofParU , who , waving aside men , wish to occupy ttwmselres soldywith tUeinsutunoni oftbecountrj « Traly wewereawarethat me pride of upatarts was great , but we did not imagineit reached so high ! It is a principle say they ! But we re . Ply with the Charter in our hand , that the sole prlncipleof gormunentistbe sovereignty of the people . The national will u at once the origin , and the term of all governraents . It alone create ! them , according to their necessities , as it pleases ; and anybody must have a short
memory to have forgotten already how that sovereign will destroy forms which are contrary to its expansion , and casts into solitude those ancient rojal races whsa they pretend to oppose their worn-out privileges to the eternal right of the people . That Charles ^ . ' succeeding to his brother Louis XVIII , who maintained that ha had reigned 21 years when a foreign steam boat cast him on our coast in the year 1814—that those persons should have assumed to be principals mighthave passed without tidicnle . And nevertheless , when a meeting was held at the Vf ndanges de Bourgogua without drinking the King's health nobody then thought of groaning and lamenting the
conduct or deputies who had at that period a dynastic sur . face . And 70 a wish and require that deputies should at present drink the king ' s health ! Not only depnties , but the el « ctors of Paris—but the press of Paris , and that in the month of July , when th « burning sun heats the pavement , when from heights which command the capital ire perceive the Louvre , where the people were victorious , and the Tuilleries , where they levelled a throne , and the dust of the Carrousel where the pedestrians trampled under their feet the . fleur * de lit broken to pieces ! But your adoration becomes ridiculous by force or impertinence . You now style the King the living incarnate law 1 Good people , you mistake yourselves for Louis XIV . In what article of the charter have you found that the King was the lair ! The law
rales the King a * well as the humblest of citizens , lie contributes one-third to it—he executes it-Eefiiouiid to obey it—or , rather , as he acts not without bis Ministers , in constitutional language we roust thus explain your splendid phraae : —The living and incarnate law is M . Jayr , M . Dumon , M . Cunin Gridaine , father , at Sedan s a fine incarnation , well worthy of adoration ! In truth , one is surprised to find to what a point the spirit of the Court , the miserable spirit of subserviency , is perpetuated in this country , notwithstanding the terrible lessons of history . It might be said that the rest , dence of the monarch was closed against the external air—that the movement of generations and the yermanent progress of ideas had not bens felt there . It appears to be that an intelligent , active , powerful , and energetic
na-Uon like ours should halt Ueeause a system has described in parabole—that the immovability of the upper part ought to paralyse the entire social body—that all Fiance should be condemned to drag its limbs like a decripit old man , because it pleases all those who lead it to b « from 70 to 81 years of age ! Those are the men of the Left and the Left centre , to whom they do the honour to attribute tome good sense . They perceive that the present policy degrades and corrupts all parties . They contend at the Chamber—their efforts are destroyed by a majority of satisfied members . They propose an electoral and Parliamentary refoim—they are ridiculed
and told that the country is laughing at them . They then address themselves to the electors—the latter reply and appeal to men of every party attached to the revolution of Jaiy who desire a modification of the existing system . A common feeling unites different sections of the game party Each brings his followers aad maintains his flag . A cry of anathema is immediately raised because the national sovereignty and the revolution of July have beenin voked in place of the Kin *! The Marseillaise was chanted with enthusiasm , but Vive Henry IV . was neither played nor sung , and deputies were present ! What a scandal ! And it is expected that this extraordinary manifestation of which the echo ba g been Beard in London and in Qer .
many , shall be imitated in France ! Wfcat an impruden expectation ! Ah ! we are well aware of what grieves you . It is becaus * no disturbancesinterfer .-d to derange this sincere and powerful expression of the Parisian electors . It is because in that assembly of 1 , 200 persons the heat and excitement diminished is no respect the dignified dem < anour of the guests . It is because that amongst the 5 , 000 or 6 , 080 persons who tesponded outside to the applause of the company , and to the music of the Marseiliaixe , yourpolic : found no opportunity to interfere t o repress the slightest confusion . This consciousness ot right , which is gradually penetrating everywhere , and which fortifies those amongst whom it penetrates , afflicts you because it menaces your exist-« ace , and it becomss the more alarming to you as it is cousohtoiy to society in general . You invite by your
provocation agitation and riot . You would have cried less loudl y if an opportunity had been afforded you to disperse the meeting as illegal . You would not nerhaps regret , crouched as you are in your filthy den , that some violence should have assisted you in creating alarm . Do not place any reliance on violence—that must come from you . We have waited patiently fur jour system to produce its fruit . The country has seen and has tasted the poison . You are educating the nation . You are enlightening the most blind by the light of your policy . Parties have learned tbat bad governments are not destroyed by their efforts . Bad governments commit suicide , and you will aot fail to succeed in cousequenceo the care with which you charge jour weapons . Our part will henceforth be governed by yours . You may act , we shall wait . "
Dasiel O'Cosseu ,, Esq . M . P . for Dundalk , and the Rev . J ) r 4 Hley , arrived in Paris on Tuesday , bringing with them the body of the late Mr O'Connell in a fourgon . They were to proceed on their journey the next day , intending to cross over from Havre to Southampton . The National gives currency to a rumour to the effect that Marshal Soult haying again sent in his resignation , the Council of Ministers deliberated on it , and the offer was accepted . A letter , it was rumoured , was immediately written to . Marshal Bugeaud to offer him the portfolio of war , and it was almost settled that M . Guizot should assume the plate of President of the Council . It is added that the appointment ot Bugeaud as Minister of War will be foSluwed by the immediate arming of the fortifications . The Duke d'Aumale has been appointed Governor-General of Algeria .
Apprehension * are entertained in certain circles ef an outbreak oh the 29 th inst , the anniversary of one of the three glorious days . " The correspondentof the Times says , however , that such fears are not ustih ' ed by facts , that the Republicans are held in hand byltheir ' chiefc , who will not give the government such a chance of crashing them , and protecting the present order of things by a premature and impotent insurrection . A banquet to be given to M . De Lamartine by his constituents at Ma ^ on is looked forward to with some interest . His " Girondins" has engaged the whole country in recollections of the Revolution of 1789 , of the omnipotence of the people , and-especially of the integrity , probity , poverty , and patriotism of Robespierre , St . Just , Coutbon , and others of the leaders in thas revolution . " These and the late trials . " says the correspondent of the lima will probably predispose the meeting to reflections and expressions which cannot fail to produce a sensation .
SPAIN . The Madrid journals dwell with the same alarm on the threatening appearance oi the Montetnolinists . The Eco del Comercio , for example , saya ;—" It is an indubitable fact that the Montemolinists are organising themselves in a formal and terrible manner , and it is expected that from one day to another , they will raise the cry of rebellion with an intensity which it will not be very easy soon to stifle . " The same journal publishes a letter from Valencia , stating tbat a Montemolinist band of sixty men had appeared at Maestr azgo Encounters , of no great importance as to their results , took pl . ice on the 5 th and 6 th between the Queen ' s troops and insurgents , at Valldara , in Catalonia , and near the Mora de Ebro , in Tarragona .
A Madrid letter of the 10 th states that the mail from that city to Barcelona had been stopped by a body of men , who burnt the carriage and took the courier prisoner . A letter from our Bayonne correspondent , under date July 10 th , gives the following account of the progress of the Cariist bands : — "A diligence which arrived here to-day was arrested near Burgos by a detachment of El Estu . diante ' d guerilla , which appeared to be well armed and mounted . The insurgents offered no violence to the travellers , merely taking ine of the horses , of which they were in need . Two more Carlists have been shot at Burgos , alter remaining twenty-four hours en capilla . The war on the Catalonian fron .
tier is becoming characterised by acta of great ferocity , each party destroying the " crops of tbeir opponents . The Carlists have also burned several diligences . Colonel Nozal , the officer arrested here the day before yesterday , was one of Zamalacarregui ' * veterans , lie came here from Belgium , and was bearer of letters from London , in which he * as anpointed to a command in Navarre . " _ A telegraphic despatch from Burgos , of the Uth is . also Pushed , stating that the band of El Estudiante was come up with on the 10 th near Sedano . that he lost a captain killed , his aide-de-camp taken prisoner , with four horses and some arms , and that he himself escaped with a wound in his head . The troops had two soldiers wounded and three horses shot .
SWITZERLAND A letter from Berne , of the 9 th , in the Coiutimtionnel , aays : — What I said to you yesterday , respecting a note of the French cabinet , is fully confirmed ; and I be
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^ Heve I can guarantee the correctness of the following details : —The day before yesterday , U . de Boisle-Comte went to the President or the Diet , and read to himassmewhatlong despatch , dated 4 th July , by which . M . Guizot not only fully ratified the language held by the ambassador in his famous tiiwurs ecrit . but even strengthened the expression of his idea by ascribing to the great continental powers , with respect to our country , more hostile intentions than a simple examination of the complications which mav arise in case the majority of the Swiss States should takei collective measures against the minorit In a | » TeI eangaarantee the correctness of the follow-
y . word , the written language ef M . Guizot is in complete opposition with the declarations that he made in the Chamber of Deputies in the sitting in which the lnterpellatums took place . After having read this despatch to M . Ochsonbein , the Ambassador offered , according tu usage , to leave him a copy . The President of the Vororc at first replied by a positive refusal , but afterwarda consented to the formality , declanne . however , that as the despatch was not addressed to him as President , nor to theVivort , he could not communicate it officially either to the Diet or the Directory . "
ITALY . A letter from Bologna of the 8 th , in the Constitu-Ucnnel , says : — " The law on the institution of the civic guard for the entire state has just arrived from Rome . Cardinal Amati ordered it to be immediately published throughout the province . It is in consequence of a serious demonstration of the Roman people that the government hastened to paas this measure , so long expected . Couriers passed through Bologna last night from Rome . on their way to Vienna , with pressing despatches from the Austrian ambassadors residing at Rome and Naples . Armed bands are said to have made their appearance in Calabria . Considerable agitationreigns in the kingdom of the Two -nw - ^ e understand that a collision , attended wuu bloodshed , has just taken place at Lucca , between the troops and the inhabitants . The irritation of the population continues at Parma . It is
asm that a body of Imperial troopBare on their way to occupy the duchy of that name . If auch an act takes place , it will be the commencement of the Austrian intervention in Central Italy . " A letter from Naples , ol the 29 th ult . saya :-l&e government hasjust taken energetic measures against the bncandg of the Calabria . -, whose numbers , according to accounts from Cosenza and ita environs , have considerably increased . The gendarmerie and several battalions of chasseurs have been sent from Nocera to the points which are most threatened . " Accounte received in Paris from Rome , under date of the 10 th , inform us that Cardinal Gizri had resigned , and that Cardinal Ferrettt , Legate of Peaaro and Urbmo , had been appointed his successor .
Carainai nerrem , who belongs to a noble family ol Ancona , is 52 years of age . He is the brother of the Major Ferretti who , in the time of Napoleon was considered one of the bravest officers of the Italian army . 1 he Pope convoked on the 8 th a conereeaturn of cardinals , to take into consideration the municipal law , and other urgent measures .
POLAND . The Breslau Gazette t . f the 12 th gives the following representation of the misery which afflicts the part rru wbieh lies on the banks of the Vistula — ' fit * fiu " " ! ^ ? ° 'g » eat the grass ot the fields , which they dress as vegetables . The few who are so fortunate as ta procure eraplojnient earn no more than five kreutzers ( 30 c . ) a day , and tnen they are able to buy only a small quantity of black or spoiled flour , which they mix with the grass , ivery day people were found dead in the streets from starvation . In the town of S&yaupul there were found in one morning nineteen persons lying on the pavement round a church , all of whom had expired trom want of food . The principal disease caused by this famine is a nervous fever , attended with insanity . They stagger as they so . have a stunM air
and cannot speak without stammering . They are easily distinguished among the huudreds of beggars who besiege the doora of all the houses . Children deserted by their fathers and mothers wander about the streets in groupspiteously imploring charity . "
RUSSIA . According to the last arrivals from St Petersburg , the Emperor Nicholas will not go into Gernwny this year . lie is said to have directed his Minister of Foreign affairs to collect in August , at St Petersburg , all the diplomatic representatives of Russia to the great powers . The Emperor has just taken an important decision in a strategic peint of view , lie has adopted the project of a vast line of railways unttir . g the three capitals , Warsaw , Moscow , and St Petersburg . This line , of which the tete depont will be the fortress of Warsaw , will comolete and
strengthen the system of the old kingdom of Poland , such as the Emperor Nicholas established it at the last insurrection in 1830 . The country to be traversed by the line is generally flat , which will allow of the woiks being rapidly completed at an expense of about 100 , 000 f . the English mile .
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THE FRATERNAL DEMOCRATS . Ata meeting of this society on Monday evening , — Ridley , in the chair , the following new regulations were moved by Julian Ilarney : — 1 st . That henceforth the society ' s meetings take place only monthly—the first Moadayin every month : the secretaries , however , to have the power to call special » wtings whenever they deem necessary . The fim of the regular monthly meetings to take place on the first Monday in August . That as a number of members neglect to pny the contributionofa half penny weekly , the present system bu
discontinued , and , instead , that every member in town and country pay , on receipt of his card , one shilling . The shilling to cons itute one year ' s payment . Tha year to date from the 22 nd of September . If not paid on the 22 nd ( the society ' s anniversary ) , the town members to pay at the first monthl y meetings following ( October ) Should it be inconvenient for any member to make good his contribution in one payment , he may pay the same by instalments of not less than one penny weekly until the whole is paid . On any emergency additional monies to be raised by voluntary cuntributions . "
The above having been seconded by Geo . William Wheeler , the first regulation was unanimously adopted . On the second , Carl Schapper moved " , seconded by Charles Keen , that " that each member on receipt of his card pay sixpence instead of one shilliHg . " On a division , the amendment was rejected , and the original motion ( the shilling annually ) adopted . The following new members were elected : — Conrad Sprineall , of Norwich ; George Kend ill ,
ot Dutton-in-Asnheld ; Charles llnus , Thomas Major John Dell , Henry Ellis , and Henry Lester , all of Reading ; John Rogers , of Bristol ; Thomas Gill jun ., of Wakefield : David Morrison , of Swindon ; Adam Carasron . of Paisley ; Charles Theobald , ot Peterborough ; James Smith , of Accrington , Edward Burlcy , of Manchester ; John McCrae , James Graham , John Me Into 3 h , Robert Stiven , John Dowiic , James Druramond . Thomas Whitten , George Youn " , Dun . au Palmer , and Anthony Chappell , all of Dunlee .
— Browne ( Tower Hamlets ) was elected town member . IThe above members will understand that the shilling regulation will not he enforced until the 22 od of September next . They must then renew their membership subject to the above regulation , when they will be supplied with cards . ] After some other business had been transacted , and several spirited speeohes delivered , the meeting adjourned till Monday evening , August 2 nd .
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( From the Gazette of Friday , July 16 . ) Jotin Brittan , of Uedtynch , Wiltshire , market gardncr —Jolin Snook , of LiHlbury-rond , l ' aQington , builder—Stephen Hocken , of 2 , Cornwall-villas , Albion-road , Queen ' a-road , Dalston , builder— Henry Clark , of Hod . cross-street , City , and Plummcr ' s-row , Whitechapel , oil merchant-Luke Langley , of -Brading , Isle of-Wight , baker—Thomas Green Crofts , of Leicester , draper-dames Dolphin , of Uilston , grocer—John ttyatt Sugg , of Tor quay , architect—William Bromley Cooke , of Burtonujion-Trcnt , tape manufacturer-John Fearne Gee , of Wakefield , raanufacutring chemist—George Roberts , of fiodborougb , Gloucestershire , miller— William Alsop Massey , late of Everton , hut now of Liverpoul , licensed victualler—Joseph Leadbeater Buttercll , of Doncaster , grocer—Geo . Wliitehead , Jno . Settle , Jno . Smith , Jno . Hyde . Wm . Kclsall , Jas . Holden , Thus . Barlow , Duncan Crighton , Jno . Jones , Thos . Mallinson , Win . Foster , David Crightoii , and Jas . Ash worth , of Hill ' s Croft Mill , Pendleton , cotton-spinners .
( From the Gazette of Tuesday , July 20 ) Sarah Bowling , l ' emlletun , Lancashire , plumber—. Robert John Say , flalstead , Evsi-x , nine merchant-James Dodge , Cumberland row , Walworth . road , Ncwing . ton , ironmonger—Joseph Gardner , Nottingham , baker-John Hay , Bath , surgeon dentist—Diedrick Cursten Hermann Lomer , London-street , City , merchant—Henry Monson , East Manchester-square , builder—Joseph Newman , Frampton Cotterell , Gloucestershire , carpenter—Luke Normington , Bradford , worsted spinner — John Price , Ludgatu hill , City , innkeeper — Vi illiam Scott , Liverpool , hardware dealer—Abraham Smith , Botlcy , Hampshire , chainnakcr—Henry Woodhousuand Thomas Theakstune Woodhousc , Aldcnnanburv , warehousemen .
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^ Su " ^ - *• «« ^ their ° S HOUSE OF COMMONS .-The house met at twelve Some satisfactory explanation passed between ilr B Escott and the chairman of committees , Mr Green * as to the former moving the adjournment of the debate oh the Bishops' Bill en the precodinR evening in a some . rb « t irregular manner . He had no desire to embarrass the chairman but merely adopted that mode of restoring order . Mr Green accepted the apology . The House then proceeded to dispose of several bills of a local character , and after a sitting of about two hours separated . MONDAY . Jolt 19 . HOUSE OF LORDS . —Remef of Ibibh Distriss . — Enrl fcBsi laid on the table u despatch from the go . vernor-general of the North American colonies , and stated that the subscriptions in thono colonies for the
relief of Irish distrens amounted to £ 33 , 000 . New Zealand ( No . 2 ) Biu .. —This bill passed through committee after a few remarks from Earl Gner upon the increasing prosperity of the colony , and the gratifying manner in which , he said , the natives of New Zeuliind now cime into our courts to settle their disputed . Their lordships adjourned at 8 o ' clock , HOUSE OF COMMONS . _ Mr Tselawnex wished to know from the Chanceller of the Exchequer , whether her Majesty ' s government wouM allow Parliament to separate without taking lome step tu protect factory labourers from the injury they were liksly to receive in bring deprived of an oppertunity of earning wages for more than ten hours a-day by a bill whieh had become law during the present session ?
The Chanceliob ef the Exchequer said his honourable friend was already aware tbat his opinion whs against the measure alluded to , mainly on the ground of its interfering with the interests of the labourimclasses themselves ; but certainly , now thut the bill bud become law , he could not hold out any hope that government would intro'lucj a measure to compensate the labourers for any loss they may suffer In const quence of a reduction ffOtu twelve to tea hours a-day in their labour . BssnoPBic of Manchestee Bill . —Lord J . Rpsseu moved that the order of the day tor going iato committee on the above bill ba read .
Mr B . Escott had to thank Lord J . Russell for the handsome manner in which , at tbe close of Friday night's debate , be had consented to postpone tho further proceeding wiiu this bill from Saturday m Monday . He had felt on the noble lord ' s doing so that It would be the dutj of those opposing the bill to reconsider the position in which they were placed—to reflect on tbe responsibility attached to tbe position they occupied—to reconsider the nature of the bill itself—ani to resolve whether it whs their duty to give up their opposition , und concedu to the opinion of the majority . At the same time he had considered it bis duty to reflect whether anything had patsed in the course of the debate that tended to upset the principle on which they had acted , in opposing a measure which they thought detrimental to the interests of the
poople , because detrimental to the interests or the church : and , having fairly considered the matter , he had come to the determination that nothing would be so pusillanimous , nothing would be so base on their part , as any sign of shrinking from thu great duty imposed upon them . ( Hear . ) An hon . gentleman sitting nwr him signified dissent from that proposition ; and he culled upon that hon . gentleman to express to the house the reasons which induced him to euppurt this bill . He had yet to learn thut this was a ministerial measure . ( Hear , hear . ) The noble lord the First Lord of the Treasury , and the Secretary of State for the Uomt Department had spoken in favour of the bill , but sparingly , and they had never attempted to grapple with ths main question under dispute . ( Hear , hear . ) He saw next to the nobl : lord at the
head of the government the Chief Commissioner of Woods and Forests , and the representative of a great county . He wanted to know if Yorkshire was i « favour of this bill ? He would tell that noble lord ( Lord Morpeth ) that " not nil the blood of all the Howards" could cram four bishops down the throats of the people of this country . ( Laughter . ) He saw alsa the member for Sheffield in his place , Hud he asked him if the people of Sheffield were in favour of this bill ? [ Mr Ward . —'' They have not said a single word on tho subject . " ] But , if they had said nothing , was he at liberty to assume that" silouce gave consent ? " ( Laughter ) He would usk , aUo , who was the author of the appropriation clause ? ( Hear . ) Who was it that contended that all surplus funds of the Irish church should go to the education of ths people ? ( Hear . )
It was tbe member for SlnfOeld ; and jet he now support-da measure for raising up four new bishoprics out of the surplus funds that ought to go to a more utcessary purpose . ( Hear . ) Instead of widening the base of the church , and thus adding to its usefulness and stability , he was assisting to put ponderous pinnacles on its top that would mike it top-heavy und endungor its full . Then there was the member for Dumjarvan , better known as member for Dungarvan thin as the Master of the Mint , where his office seemed to hang about him as a ponderous incumbrance— ( laughter)— he naked him whether Ireland was in favour of four new bishops ) It was not for those who had cried for ju-tice to Ireland to join in the attempt to make four new bUhops for England . ( Hear , hear . ) Where were all those who had
in former tuneB expressed themselves in opposition to measures of this kind 1 They were too much cowards to rise i » their places and oppose the present measure , He repeated that those who , contrary to their recorded opinions and avowed principles , did not stand up and oppose this bill were political cowards , and would be so branded by the voice of the people uf this country . ( Hear , hear . ) But he snw in hi * place the right bon . gentleman the member for Edinburgh , and h « would now go from Ireland to Scotland . ( An hon . member—* ' I wish you woull . " Great laut « htjr . ) The ri 'ht lion , gentleman was famous not only for his eloquence in that home , but for deep research , varied learning , nud philosophical acumen ; but in all the sput-diei . he bad heard , an I in all tbe essays he had r ^ ad of tbe right hon . gentleman ' s , not
one paragraph had ever been expressed in favour of thu necessity of four new bishops . ( Laughter . ) Perhaps lie had n ; i > ims fur supporting thU bill . It' , let him stute them , and he was ready to be convinced , if thoy were such as his reason could approve . But as yet he hud heard no good nmson given for such u bill . He also cnlleil upon the Attorney . Genenil to come forward and deliver his sentiments . He wanted to knOw from the hon . and learned gentl miin it it was accurdiug to f .-w principles of Parliamentary and constitutional law to state in the preamble of a bill the opinions anil contemplations of the Sovereign as the groundwork of an act uf Parliament . ( Hear , hear . ) He hud said that lie doubted whether this was a Ministerial measure . One thing be was sure of , —that the measure wouM not be curried J . y the
supporters of Mim > tcrj , but by the gentlemen on tno opposition side of the bouse . ( Hear , hear . ) Thrre were , however honourable exceptions on the opposition s-ide uf the house . There was a distinguished exception in the case of Sir J . Graham . ( Hear . ) The right lion , gentleman tbe member for Tutu worth , who was formerly at the head of an administration , should have been present to express his opinions in thut house , lie would be better employed expressing his views to that ln > u « e on the bill now before it , than writing pamphlets to his constituents . ( Laughter ) There were also those who aspired to be leaders of the people . Where was ttie noble lord the member for Lynn ? The noble lord was not in his place , or hs would have tolu him , thnt it' he thought the farmer ! ot England , who lmd been called the country party , or
any great portion of thtm , supported this question , he would tiud in that supposition l ; e was ejireniously mis . taken . ( Hear . ) He asked the noble lord if Beutinck came over with William from the Low Countries to give four new bishops Brummagem mitres ? ( A laugh . ) Did his ancestors come over with William to make ttie-e lirunmuigtm mitres , and put thi m on thu heads of the successors of Laud ! ( Laughter . ) And where , too , was tbe member fur Slirewslmsy ? He husi canvassing the fat men not only of Buckinxham . shire , but of all England . lie was riding through all Buckinghamshire in John llantpden ' g saddle —( a laugh )—but he naked how il would fit tbe " popular principles' * of tbe member for Shrewsbury to support this bill with its four bishoprics ' ( Hear , hear . ) la their absenco would any of theiririendk
tell why they had been sihnt ? Hu ( Mr Escott ) knew why they had been sileut , ami lie would tell thu people they represented why . The di » ision upon this question would not be decisive with the country , nor would the speeches in favour of this bill recommend the speakers as representatives of great constituencies in another HoH « e of Commons . After culling tbe arguments used in this debate , the only reason in favour of the bill appeared to be this : —they wero told the bill did not originate in this house ; it had come down from the House of Peers , and for that reason they oug ht to pass it . The bill , it was true , had come down from the other house , and be recollected another bill which had come down from tha House of Lords , the pressing of which bill In this house had turned out Sic . Rah . ert reel ' s government , ( Hear , hear , hear . )
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« bad bten gajd | hgt themoney ^ ^ epeople who not required for these new bishoprics ; bat , thoug . ' the money am not come from the consolidated fund , it trai taken trom a portion of the people ; from a meritorious , hardworking porlion of th )} peonle _| paroc y ai ci , . ILn ! n ° . ' ' ! d 8 ert . ' aisfd by the Chancellor of tfae Ex . S ^ KK ? " - r Tr ? ng CI 7 y > niiw hinhnn-i a WM einplojed in endow ng four were Sr 5 TO 8 eaf «* ine , and that the people forward Tnd ff ' * P ° rtion of our aristocrcy came ^ Ssra ° ? lana > nnd - ¦* ' ««¦» - * Duke of Dev nsh e £ , uL ° ^^ IUpp 08 e tLe Baron RoU . ^ n ^ fiStJjT / Jh ^""" i " <« ' ™* large masse * « f the pe 0 D 17 ™ ° , sacnhce t 0 me lT ation
the close of th . JT ^ """ ; suppose at the close of the season when th # . " ; su PP 09 e at -rfttartm ^ a ^' . js , - * been su > ed » We will bestow the surplus fund ° " Inent were to « V . in supplying them with £ , " „ * XlT "' T ^ tho country to erate this ! If then n « J as . ign . d In favour ot the ml * S'ZllZ ! ^ V * ( the opponent , of the bill ) , taking SfflKS that belief being ^ strengthened by he ul ^ T ^ ' ° " =-= sS as ^ . V-sw-S
of Commons voted for the MU ! Ho « ™ htehit majority In favour of the bin had been barelj oue-fifth o the House of Commons . ( Hear , hear . ) Wheni me tolnaI , " h d- ^ ° meWber W ° **'«*« to analyse the divisions , they would find that the bill , if rt » ' h 1 ; nnt h « 7 mritd bj the mini 8 teri » 1 " ^ ° near 7 U , d ?„ V " ™ Un Ontlle otlltr Mb - < ™> utv to t . 1 " circumttan "' >«• felt It to be hi should \ rjT >\ ° PP ° 9 itIon to this bill , lie Sit ml ! * ° 8 U | 58 est a ™> ° « » hy Her Sal ^ X'ZT $ i * li tMt T c , »^ o .: ' e U P th 0 wll . But no such
i s the nobl . lord irho had been at the head of hat board and who was now Lord-Lieutenant of itZ d noTthi V , ce PreS 1 dent of that board Mr 11 . Gibson who gave a'SL" tnC V f hiB P ° PUlar unities to ! A-m , ms . ration m tbe couatry , had voted in favour of tbiimeniure And Lord Brougham ,
" 0 si solitaj quicquam virtutis adessct !» lew ^ I th V * ° n V ime llaVD made " ^ farmer col . leagues in the Honae of Lords tremble nt their owu a « - nil w ' r H ?' " ? ' 5 " 8 aid - * ( the »» ' * of , hK SI ? his bm « v ° Wmre 8 OlV WOUld Muh i , " Youmay Prorogu . 9 on Thurdays , " carr . h - ° < W ""^ " b Ut ° ThUr < da > ' »»»« " •» not oder , n / , h « ecol > ° l «< ied with moring that the other orders of the day be now read . Sir W . Moleswob th seconded this amendment Mr ¦ AoMom thought if this bill passed , i . WOuld be but the commencement ef bishop * ' bills , a , clearly an . g » red fron , . evidence of the Bishops of London and St Asaphon tbe subject , both of whom thought there 21 ™^??^ " ° - ^ tanee t , !" small or Hl-paid cltrgy-- ( iaug hter ) -and both of whom aid the , w «* of opinion that the be . t mod . of prort ? . ing for the spiritual destitution of the people was to create m-re bishops . ( Great laughter . )
ViTm Ilnlrn . « » / Mr Home was sorry that the noble lord M the bead of the government persisted in forcing on this bill : he had hoped that he would poitpone it until new « M » Um , ai » Ah . would put it to him whether it would not be wise to do so , and whetherit would no serve tbe liberal cauee if he were now to postpone until the next parliament this most obnoxious and objectionable measure ! ( Hear hear . ) He implored the noble lord not to waste the " Tlv m ° " ny fUrther ' but at once t 0 withd ™ tbe bill . ( Hear , hear ) Lord j . Komm * could not but think , after hearing thu speeches which hud been made against the bill , that the opposition to it arose mainly from u mUapprehen . Biou both on the part of the small minority who opposed it in that house as well as of many respectable persons in the
country . It was said that everything was done » or the hierarchy and nothing fur tho sure of souls , and n was also alleged that this measure lad more particularly the former object . He must , however , recall to the recollection of tho house the state of the church soui « years ago , before Lord Orey ' s government thought of reforming it , or the c . immission of Sir R . Peel was issued . The Bishop ol Duthara had a rev . nue of from £ 22 , 000 to £ 23 , 000 a year , and other bishops held benefices and livings of from £ 500 to £ 1 , 500 a year , in commendam , to eke out their incomes . Anothtr evil was , that several clergymen held vario js dignities and prefer ! meilts : for instance , fifteen clergymen held fii pieces of preferments . A commission , however , was appointed iti 1831 to inquire into the evils existing in the church
and Hrst of all they applied themselves to the iucomes t . f the bishops , when it appeared to them that it was desirable to do away with the holding of benefices and livings tnc mmetxfain to make up their incomes , and it fur- ; ther appeared that some of the larger bishnpries mi ^ ht be diminished , nnd afford better incomes to the smaller ones . They proposed that thi income of the Bishop of Durham should be reduced to £ 8 000 a year . Another abuse hud been put an end to , namely , the frequency of translation . Next , as to cathedrals , it appeared that a considerable diminution might be made in the numbtrof deans , canons , and other cathedral offices ; and by the reductions made a fund of £ IH 000 a y « ar had fallen in anl th « real amount on the expiration of existing lives and the completion of otber arrangements , ultimately would belittle less than
£ 300 , 000 a year . Thy had very greatly diminished the patronage of the crown and the high dignitaries of the church , and had not been as it whs said , utterly neglectful of the working clergy ' for this sum of £ 131 000 ( and which , as h , > had before paid , would ultimately ri-ach 300 , 000 . ) had been devoted to the augmentation of nnall bi-nencts . Then , as to pluralities , they had been restricted , for » measure hart been passed that no clergjman should hold a second benefice more than ten mill's from where be lived . ( Hear hoar . ) He really thought these things had beeti utterl y lost sight of —( hear , bear )—and he was not now propos . ing that the whole surplus revenue of tho church should bd devoted t 9 the creation of four bishoprics , neither was he responsible for the opinions of the Bishops of Lon iyn an * St Asnph , What he wished to show was , thai , in pursuance of a Beries of measures , he did not stand up alonu solely for the purpose of increasing the
number of bishops . He thought that , - making provision us they had for the reform of abuses , having done away with benefices held in commendam . having done awav with the evils attending the translating of bishops , hav . ing done away with sinecures , having made better provision for the cure of souls , having applied a rtmudy to the evils of pluralities , nnd those evils which many yenrs iiKO Bishop Watson thought so hurtful to the church , they were not—if they conceived the ministrations of die church could be made more useful b y putting mor « bishops in tha dioceses hereafter to be created—to consider the church and the concerns of the church as finully settled , but that they ouifht to leave to that body that principle of life and extension which belonged to ull other bodies , whether lay or clerical , anil which he thought ought to belong to ecclesWical bodies , ( Hear hear . ) After what had pasted en Friday night , he thought he was not making un unreasonable request in askiiih' the house to go into committee .
Sir W . Moleswortii suid thnt the speech of the noble lord tright be 8 mimed up in one oenteiice , nawely , " we have dune much pood , therefore we ore noiv entitled to do some evil . " ( Hear , hear ) He he-rd no argument in favour of this bill from the noble lord , and till he heard some argument in favjur&f it lie would give it every opposition . It wus well known that two-thirds of the liberal members who voted f « r the bill wen ; really in favour of its postponement , and that was well-known to the noble lord . Ha dared hon . member !! on liii side of tlm house , to stand up tint ) declare that there were in favour of tut ! measuV ' . " . ( lluar , hear . ) He called on Mr Fox Mdule—tlie frit-nd of the free church of Scotland—to decluru that he was in favour of the making of more lis'iop ? . He was not prepared without due consideration to give decided opiuim on ' thi > subject . He therefore thought it ought to be postponed till they knew what was the opinion of the people ( if England . ( Hear , hear . ) Next session the state' of the c' urch generalh could be brought under then- consideration .
Mr Thelawnt said they seemed to be living in 6 traitge times . They sawFree-irade measures carried by Tories , and Clmrcli extension measures about to be carried by Whig < . He would oppose the bill in its varioxs stages * but he would not oiler any factious opposition to its paisini , ' . He thought that ut the present period of the session it ought to he postponed . He did not think it worth while to excite tho feelings of the Diss -nters , for so small a measure as this , and he believed it would be nrotluctivt ! of fur more good if the income of the Bishop of Manchester ( vent to increase tbe number of the working clergy , ( Hear , hear )
Mr i , Collett thought ( his measure disci-editable ani disgraceful to the noble lord . Though he considered hims If a high churchman—( loud laughter )—he felt compelled to continue his opposition to tl . e bill . He thought the bouse had a right to know what had been done with the £ 200 . 000 , which the Bishop of London received from lessees of the ' property on the other side of Btyswater-road . After a few words from Mr Escott , consenting to withdraw his ninemlnsent , tho amendment was withdra wn , and the house went into committee .
Mr M . Philips was understood to say that a dtputa ti » n of persons belonging to the church had waited on him , and requested him to urge the postponement of tliis measure until next session of parliament , when it could be more lully considered nnd discussed . He felt grateful to the noble lord for being uisinlj instrumental in enabling Munchester to sind him as its representative to that house . The first vote he gave in it was against the government to whicb the noble lord Mongi-d , on the Irish Condon Bill , and he should regret it the last vote he recorded was alBO in opposition to him . He did not think the noble lord ought to force this bill on tho people of Manchester . He would therefore movo , that tbe words "forthwith establishing a bishopric of Mancb « s > ter" be struck out of the preamble of the bill .
Mr II . Cuoluondelet was ( uuUis that a calmer and wfcer spirit should be introduced into this discussion . This debate had ken characterised " a riotous debate , "
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and it well deserved the appellation , laughter had been excited onasubjest of a most serious characUr Never was there a question in which It was lets appro * , pnate . The spiritual interests of thousands were in . VOlved , and thoao interests were ef importance to other interests in the proportion as eternity waa moreimpor * tani than time . He trutted , therefore , this bill would no longer be ma l e tho vehicle for ribald jest . After considerable discussion , the committee divided—For the amendment ... ... ... 1 * Against it . ' . ' , ' 88 _ 7 ? Mr V . Shitu said that he had now tj bring forward the amendment of which lie had glren notice , relative to the three additional bishops referred to in the prenmble of the bill . The noblu lord at tbe head of the government had said that he was open to conviction , and would be ready to make any alteration in tftte measure which could be shown to him to be proper . The preamble recited , that three additional bishops were to be created
i as soon us convenient . Now these words were quits at variance with the rest of tbe preamble , and they contained a pledge which , to say the least , was extremely inconvenient , and one to which the House of Commons ought not to stand committed . There was nothing enacted in the bill upon these words in the- preamble , and therefore he pressed on the noble lord the propriety of ex punging them . The right hon . gentleman con . eluded by moving that all the words relating to the creBtion of throe new bishoprics be omitted from the preamble . Lord J . Russell said that if the words objected to by the right honourable gentleman could be made to bear
the construction which he had put upon them , and to convey a pledge that the House of Commons would , at lome future session , proceed to create three new bJBhopncs , which construction , however , he did not think they could in strictness be made to bear , then he must admit tbat the objeetioni which the ri ght hon . gentleman had urged were of some weight , and lor that reaiou he wai disposed to thinU the , vord 8 in question miKht just a » ell be omi > tcd , having the proposition for mating three new bishoprics entirely open to a future parliament . He therefore would agree to omit them from tno preamble , and would nlso strike out that part of th « second clauu referring to the future appointment of three additional bishops .
Sir J . Obaham , and several other members expressed their satisfaction at this concession . MrDoNcoBBEsaidhe wished to know whether tha words relating to the creation of three new bishops having been struck out of the preamble , it would bo neceis » ry , if her Msijosty thought fit hereafter to found three new sees , that recourse should be had to parliament for the purpose f Lord J . Russell said it would be necessary to come to parliament . The preamble , as amended , was then agreed to . On the first clause being proposed , which repeals parts of the act 3 recited in the preamble , and extends to this set the powers of former acts , Mr Aolionbt called on the house to reject the latter part of this clause on the ground . ? taken by Lord G . Bentinck and Mr J . Stuart in the Health of Town ! Bill—that it introduced into the act of parliament a reference to other acts of parliament , and so created great doubts and uncertainties .
More discussion ensued : — The committeo then divided , whon the numberi were— For the amendment 25 Against it 133 Majority against it . „ 103 The first clauae wai then passed . On putting the question on the second clause , whlob . enacts that the number of lord * spiritual is not to be tacrenaed , Mr S . Wobtlet observed , that the difficulty witk which Lord J . Russell had to contend in passing thi »
bill , did not ilse upon the erection ot the Bishopric of Manchester , but on his extending further the number of those who were entitled to sit op the episcopal bench in . the House of Lords . The question , then , which h » called on the committee to consider , was , whether , in creating a Bishop of Manchester , it ought to omit to invest him with alt the rights und privileges of bis episcopal brethren . Ho contended that without a violation of principle , and a violation of the constitution , you could not deprive the Bishop of Manchester of the privilege of peerage , to which he became entitled as soon as he whs legally elected . On these grounds he objected to the clause , and moved that it be expunged .
The Atto&net-Genebil thought that this clausv could not be very injurious to the church , as the Bench of Bishops had given their consent to it . Several members addressed the house at length on this amendment . SirT . D . Acland accepted the proposition of thenobl » lord , because it was the first attempt made by any government towards remedying a great want in regard to the most reverend body , wbicb was to be increased by tht present bill , Mr Roebuck said the noble lord ought to rtcolhct by whom his bill was praised and accepted , nn < i from those praises to distrust his onn proceeding . The opposing party only Fought to get the wedge in at its sharp tnd , and the rest would soon follow . He eulegised the noble lord for being the first minister who had dealt with the spiritual potter by a legislative enactment and trusted
that the first step would ultimately lead to an entire reform of the whole subject . Let the hon . gentleman op . posite take this to heart . The whole of the spirtual body of peers were about to take a new phasis , and to have their turns in representing their ordtr in the H"U $ e of Lords . The minister would henceforward have tho power of regulating thenunner of admitting the spiritual peer into the upp-. r house , and every eort of jobbing would be used in order to get the right sort of bishop . Would any one believe that all the Dissenters would not be . in arms in consequence ef the first step ? And those who were about to support government in the matter would find thsir account in so doing . It was a very pretty quarrel , and he would leave it as it was . He advised the opponents of the bill not to interfere in tbe division . Tbe committee divided , when the numbers
were—For the amendment ... ... ... ... 3 ? Against it ... ... Ill Majority against it ... 51 So tbe second clause stands part of the bill , although six or seven of the opponents of it left the house in obtditnea to the suggestion of Mr Roebuck . lord J . Russell then withdrew the third and fourth , clauses of tho bill , because he thought that they could very well stand over to the next session . These clauses refer , the first , to tho endowment of the Deans of York , Wells , and Salisbury , and the last to the endowment of archdeaconries . They were accordingly struck out . The other clauses were agreed to , and the cbairmau was then directed to report the bill ; and on the house resuming tho report was ordered , amid loud cheers , to he received on Tuesday . Poor Imws Administhation Bill . — On tho order of the day for considering the lords' amendment to this bill ,
Lord J . Hcssell proposed , in reference to the clau « e which precluded the separation of man and wife above sixty years of age in the workhouses , that the house should disagree with tho lords ' amendment omitting that clause , and that a conference should be requested with tlio lord ? on the subject . The amendment was accordingly disagreed to . On the consi Jeration of the next amendment ( omitting the clause for the admission of the public to tbe meetings of the Boards of Guardians ) , Lord J . Russell proposed to agree to the amend .
. Mr Wakley moved the adjournment of the debate ; but after a conversation this motion was withdrawn . Mr Etwall argued in favour of the re-introduction of the clause . Sir 0 . Gbet opposed it , nnd said that he had thought it objectionable when first proposed in thaUieuae ; it was a clause tbat had occasioned great alarm . Mr Waelet observed that when the right hon . gentle , man said very great alarm had been excited he ( Mr Wnklev ) would ask in whose minds was it excited ? Was it nut in tbe minds of tbe guardians ! They wi re not for the world knowing what their deeds wero . If th .-y
did not fear public opinion , why should they object to the presence of the ratepayers ? Only a snnill portion could be admitted ; but the press miyht be admitted . How were the ratcpayets to kuow whether the electoral guardians did their duty unless they bad a right to bs present nt their meetings ? He attached the Greatest importance to tbis clause , and it ought not to be given up by the government without discussion . However , as the Poor Law commissioners were to take their seats in tbe House of Commons , he was quite sure this was one of the questions which would very early engage the attention of the house . He should not be content unless his bon . friend went to a division upon tbe present motion .
Mr Bbotuebton said , this clause for the admission of the ratepayers at the meetings of the guardiana had only been argued in ns far as it concerned ths guardians themselves . Now , Iiib experience taught him to believe tiiat it concerned the poor a ureat deal more . Tbey would have tbe strongest repugnance to being brought up be . fore the guardians to expose all their psivate nffuirs in tho presence of a large body of ratepayess . ( Laughter . ) Upon tbat ground ho should vote against tbechtufe . There would be a greater probability of the poor being properly attended to , if the guardians were left alone , than if they were required to act in the presence of a public meeting . The house divided , when tbe numbers were , for Mr Etwill ' s amendment , — Ayes *' Noes 8 J
Mojority against it 70 The Common ! therefore did not insist on thi * clauae . The other orders were then disposed ot , and the bouse ailiourned at » f « w minutes bofore two o ' clock . J TUESDAY , July 20 . HOUSE OF LORDS . —Review or tub Session . — Lord BBOUQUAMrose to call attention to the course tbat had been pursued iu conducting the business ot the ses . sion now so near its close . He maintained that hi * own conduct proved him not to havo boon actuated by any desire to oppOBetbe govetnment . iiluttobave opposed certain measure ! solely from the belief ^ jlujt they would be injurious to the country ; and he , \) hjerefore , clBua » a credence for the statement , that h » ^ i tclwWllJ M "hS ' ' - ¦ ' ¦ '
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Accident at the , Housk op Lords . — A man named Michael llogan was killed here on Monday . He fell a height ofaixty feet from one uf the Mirers , striking against several raltera as he tell , and trying in vain to catch hold of them . A rowing mateh for £ 100 has been agreed upon between Coombes , of Loudon , and his .. brother , and Clasper , and one of his brothers . The highest honours at King Edward ' s School , Birmingham , have this year been gained by a Jewish scholar . A gardener residing near Doncaster lately gathered 100 dozens of apiioots from & single tree , upon wh | he lelt about 2 » ftdozens to grow to their full size . cu PasseBgeriv my now leave Glasgow by an express railway tnua at twenty minutes past five o ' clock " > the marring , and reach , London at nine o'clock on the evening of the same day . In the yea * 1810 , the sborfjst time this distance could be performed P } Canary coaching w » ae . Y . euty ? ei&lit hours . , .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), July 24, 1847, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1428/page/7/
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