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      HIGH COtiRf OF JUSTICIARY : - — " •" " ¦ » —— ' ¦ ' ' . : ' - ¦" . GLASGOW COTTON SPINNERS , EviDKtCB OS . BOBEBT ChX-ISTIX . ( GndauuiffrvmrOtnlath ) It was on the TvesS&rpMiping witness heard he \ ras Bexi « ioor , mi JtPijean . came into ite shop soon after * It might be "between seven add eight o ' clock in . the moraiag .- ; M'Lean asked -witness -what Edward _ M * 6-BJrcna 3 . been saving about Ihe debt : M * Leaii trteed'"fciiriess . M * Lean was-atthat tHBer'Bt ' mtoes ^ s ^ JH . -Witness told hinV that M * Qmpe saia ^ PLeBnlfftSibeeB saying thntmdrninjf fce * ras l 4—d to helliHie would pay-witness mdni tioHft lOe . or 32 s . M * 'I * aarepued , that witness nead nai be afraid of'the debt ; did lie sot knowwhat Edward . M'Gaire . was . - Witness said ' he iaew notirog aheut the na&n , Wt that , he wanted tp purc&a ^ -the debt , and .. o 8 £ re , l him . JOs . downoniiie cpimjerior a 4 ebi pi £ L 5 s . ; but that Oje yfo ^ M take l ^ s , nak of Qie"debt . , Then M'ieaij " paid witness rieedfipi'be the least aijaiu of the debls * ibr lie -. would eeteveri fKcjSein of it : and said abo—* Yon know

      the Catniniade Tierer was dishonours-We in these debts . " Headded , that he was going np'fliat day togeLWSie -abdaejdrasa . fee-Committee , and that he >?¦ £ & pay me ten , i&gUings of the debt , and ' wit&e&jBightip up any time to the Cogyoittee nnd gei the rest . He aeo . Jefc the shop . By * J » eConi-3 mtte& * Vitneas ^ i pecl ^ d he meiint the Secret Cominkfefr Tfiey inet in tie Ga ^ wgafe ^ 4 n \ Smith ' s te ^^ rTTMn ^ ltwBsin &eeSack Boy Close . It wWTjtfW ^ eB JoSowaamong > the trade that there tfasiBSe ^ et ' C ^ nnittee ' tfeflin ejastencer-jSefore tiiat tBiifft . several pefsoB ? seiito witnes * a ££ ts shop «* b © r 5-51 i&t nothing w&sdone -jet , and wondered at it . ~^ fois wag some time , before Smith s faurder H& > . heard M L * a » . speak abont . it . He came to "aitoessV shop in iiutcainsontown—think * it was tte-gebb ^ 3 iprerioas _ to themnrder . of Smith—saw him that ought . There were four persons * ifliHa . One of them , of the same of Darue ^ Montagbeau to ^ e

      jfi ^ ss tliiiiki , caEed ^ itae ^ b * pamg ijasBdibr something . " Witness did . ' - not dHrersbmM Timi ^ aiid Montgomery said he would send Willie , meaHing- MALean . M Lean came out -and - asked . for file loan of a pair of dark gloves . Witness gave hinv a . pair , and asked -what ha was going to do with them ; he said , " O . naethine . " and lie- pot them in toils pocket , and-Kentinto the room . They sat till it iras pretty late . Witness wept inahd ' told them it wa » getting onto twelve o ' clock , and they must he going . . Montgomery said to the pr is-ouer , who had Ms head on the table as if sleeping , to to look sharp and come away . f ^ r it "was" lute , enough . M-T , ean lilted his head , " and said -it was tinie enough , ^ Montgomery ? poke again , and M ' -Lean got up , put his hands to Ms pockets , and said all was nsht . They were going cur at ike back dour , 2 nd ¦ witness followed theni to the month of the clos ,-.

      and M'Lean turned round and asked witness if he had h ? ard anything , ami . said no . MrLean thtn said they were -watching fir Mr . Arthur for two or three nights past . Tiiey thru ^" cut- away . Mr . M * Lean brought back tlie glo \ e < <^ ii Ti ; t ~ d ; iy , and said they were ata hon 5 f . imd . us I : ir he ' understood , itey were directed to a v . to . u « < Jw > r ; - tLey rappeJ at a door . aii-J tLe misnv .-i i-i ihe house Ji . i not seexa wHiing to open the door ; thfy ] iur . tiiv ? ir « honli > i-rs to tLe door . « nd ditive in tl ; - pfinni *]* . When iber went in . be *« id , ; lir- wife of-. be ' lioijse -sras on-herknefa \ wirli hi-r rtzhs rnv . v . J hi-r huAthud ' * neck . pravi : ; 5 ferinercy . smd said u < iiivu aud-rlie other i-. Toindividual * with him , for tLe love « . > f God not 10 meddle with Ler lu : sband . The hn > r > : ! ijl Speke out , and ? -aid tuey -wvre dhveted ii » tht vrnau hoase—to go away ; they would set the door sortet .. and there Wisald be no nrort" anoc ! it .- for inr

      knew whu . t iLey were wantinr . -M'j . i'iui to . a tue witness ihis , and added , "Nt > wonder tLe vviiV crlf : ' , for it was . v . u awfu * ITkf thin - to sne tl . rst ? ant " il Hkf reffiats lii > - us coming in . " On tl : e Tuesday aftrr the ¦ jncrijer , M * L « -sir . anJ Tboni ^ s Campbell , and 3 Ioiitfonrery came lo hi- ih ^ p about ei ^ -.-en ; th .-two-w . eiit . into the room , and ispLean stood in txr » shop . He said to witness th ^ it lie had ma « lei » i . e b— -r sleep- Witness said , ~ O . William , what is that von are saying ? '" H ^ sal-i . pointin g to a placard on the opposite ? i ( l « of tW street , "l > * ye see vonr "' ** Yes , " ssid wime .- ?? . i- £ D *} . reward . " 4 i >\ o , " said he . "By God . - £ 5 M . ~'' \ V 3 tne 55 wa « agitated-by tLe eipressioJi . und ui'inet orisenv tue sum ; c-: tclied 31 'Lean by the hres . ^ 1 . ziid said . *• William , for the love uf God leaw auy shop . ac < i make Vonr escapees nnick as posrilde . for voir'il \ -e

      appreSended . " He turae-i about and _ < 2 id . ~ t ) L : damn it . tUere ' sn ^ . e doirn npon xrn * - ; 'Lev are after anot-itT in *» . n to liTerpc-ol . "" Z- \ i-Lean t ' ^ en -went inio tUe rocinto the rest , andmafevr ndnures askei for alight forL 5 ? pipe- ; t"la him be'Ln-Jny litht in the = hcp , bci if he would go uv > the ii :: ck stair .- liewould ? ei a litht there . When M Lt ; a . n was cuniiujr our . witness was itsading at the counter , ; iini 2 rl"Lean put a hand in his pocket , and held out tno clher " j aiid . saying * "there was the Wc'e-pavr tuat tiidrlie trick . "' lie was Evens out of the shop , when witness usied if ;* ny persor . had seen him do at . 13 d replied , "he took danmei good care of that . " iiepur-hisliaiidi 3 to hisbjvsfF . ns if pnlling'ont a pirto :. put himself- in the position nf 3 m ? . 3 ilirirj ^ a ¦ pistui . and walked off . " Wiiues ^ asked , did he run away . " Xo . " ( said he ) " 1 ju .-t walked r . cross the street . " M-Lean tLt-n went our . ai ; i ectu lisut '

      hiipipe as a crime ia agiiru . tie v , - ; ' j ; jn witnrts . s s Louse " f ^ -o or three hoars .-. frerwr . ris that -fny . Xext time he came in waswitn . otLcr two . nue of the : a wj 5 Jar . vr-: K-I-h . and tLeoihi-r Moni ^ c-inery .- Line in die jftvmoon came in alone- asd swore ar . « .: aih supine ~ liehi ! \ done onel —r . an ! wonlddu-iiij ; e xnorv of them . " ^ :: i- _ : he Lad dene M : i ! ar of Lurrcefield . when no other pers .-n wr . n ! d . takt » them in baau . ¦ Milhir w ; . ~ a ^ ir ni : r . v : mailer .. Sr . id nt tlie sc ^ e ViOiS } tuat £ "»•> . ^ r " iiih ) . h"d been offered in Millar ' s cas =. and that l . e ! i : id done the deed . R-.-memhcrs about two or ilire ^ yeaK uso Tlsaiiir . IMill ^ r _ t " . ; t atremeudnusbeating . :-. ud M'Leais .-poke im « l-T ' . * ii . Ctf tu thai . lie said . he . wvued tv > . God tl . ere Wi-re thre- ^ cet ~ t

      ibat M-L ^ an hai been dnuiiur . but _ L « i w ;; . * - t ,.. t dmiik . Wiuiess rc . xc hiia n ^ niu T ! p' > : i Wedj ies'IjiV nboufznid-day . Had < i-me ccnverrtition with hint . Jaines . Haefii nil > wns wiih him th ^ n . and-t :: ie J ^ njes Keith . In th t-ir presence ^ PLean arfc ^ l ' . viti : es ~ to come in end iovs . ? ud he sat down -wrkh thenj . ~ hen v : ;^; : p 1 beuini to speak about Amerrcn , 2 nd sa : l he 2-e : ;^ f 10 20 tLtre- A ^ ked if be hud g . ; r cio ' iei aiid ii ' . I-er tiling- i ; i roaiiiuess , wlieii 'he replied . >• all ih ~ i had b / .-n ? orred : ' or him . " To ] d witi . t- ^ s that t ; . e Cio : iai " ee liud supplied him with tLr-m ihiiiirs . ^ ai 1 to himhe hud friends in America , nnd wi > hed he ras tiieiv ivv . 31 'L ^ m s ; aJ . " l--t

      who vr ? 2 zo : Ltr- . I aiu-rco . " He £ zid syiyetLIusr like ui ~ z—zs . ey hrid .-ecared hispns .--::: vfor hi : n . v . - i : | i Ilainilror : and Efyil -r ' s v ,--r « -L ti :: l that hJ was k > Le -ecvud .-tes ^ r - >;» -. r Ii ' ugr . iu in . the ? . fter ] ::: ri of the du . y , aiciig ; wiia m = - . ¦ .. »» oi " .-, er > : lie cai ^ u 1 : 1 Eibi ca ' iU-a for s *^! - * spiriis . wLirli were sT > pp ::- > d . £ . iid Ik * ' . old wiirse >~ thai xl-. v y f . y- ' ¦ . ra > to gi ^ dovrn to t o . d-acxv ^ unr . Lt- m- 'aiit thv Cciniuirteels aecoui : i - \ fi-r ii-tan ? the * . ' iriis be i : ist :-d it : ^ ud wb-jai witiie-= ^ - - . uiei . iu rui ' -.-l U : e others ¦ s :: vi : > i "him , " { . ! -. its u * . - . oilier \\ itilaiu * V n-jt uv , "ay . " Knew theotiiers by iu .-f . Lnt " . iv-t -hflr naiae-s . 3 ' ffore h * lef : f .. c siiti'P lif iin I s .-Tii- en versa t : oa with him . Al'Lr-n cam ' . ; ouii-f lise rooca ::: t .- " -ie shop , and said to , \ v : > Li * .-s . "Bit 1 . 1 h ^ ard S : id : h was . i-v * ad yesterday . " T-: f . v nvr

      c ^ uiitfr .-: thi .- uni-. Wluicss said . *• vJh . is W 1 " y .-s 2 . < - ST-id , " lhjr . ri s- > Ii , th-. " m « . niiiiir . " Witness t" . l : ; i : ; : :-y the Lr- ' ^ sL . : ti ; d pi-.-hud him fi : lie . room again . sr . vliis . " s ' . vxy . mai .. -:. i ; ii dtm ' i beilier me . ' Ii « r wu .- airai'i tLt- ptrsitus ln-hin-l th ^ counter would l . e-r wIiut . pn--sc-J . After they wejjf away M-Le .- . n rti .: : . ' out Ki'sui . " : id told him Vaat Mr . Iloulii .-wjunh ' -11 I Mr . S ; :.: ai > nd lni . 1 be a 11 . ) seeiug S : nith liei .

      ri-Le died , .-mi mi : th * 'jiii-tioa u : ie knew wiio-L-. d c ^ iiL * ihe lie ,, i : an-. rLi ^ t ^ i-iilh said he did not . IKtheii swrre au ' onih . and said , -little did they think th ^ r r : v had d « nr ^ it . " He ic ' t the shop soon after . *! ii- " . \ -ijiieir 4 h ' -urd oflds i-. ppreheimon some time alu * r Uu . v oiit-e iw Liiu widi niuney . about tvo pi'uw hi-Jijivivay . - He gave him crecit ouly on . the credii of u ; e D-l »;'» . ' oiiiTaitttv » . which sat in witness ' s house . M-L * -::-- -K-js o ' l' -n there with the Cominittee . lie

      lm \ v- > li . v- - 1 :: 'j ' r .- 'sdnv t . > - «> t <> tlie Comiiutfey iu r ' a l-: " i ^ -k ii-.-y Taveru . ' aiid ciU nu 1 'eter Thicket urlli-. i ::-rdrvi * I \ ~ -ril 10 pet his nioiiey ; buttopiirit oiT t-I ] Wf . iue .--i-y . ' . 'lien he w ^ iit to the Mack B ^ . y Taveni , L-R > k ^ d f > . r the prisoner M » 2 Seill , who enrae out t-i hiri . : avl hi' told him ce would pay the de 'i viiich had bc .-: i c-mtmoted by M'Lean and his assnci «' fes . it amounted to ii . ' M * Neill ssid A ^ 'Lcr . u iir . d c »< n >; -n < --ted a Leap of debt in the town iu tbs .-ir luaue . Irai tLej co-did ui ) t pny it at all v for he wus coiitr . icdijg t «> o much . M'S ' eill did not pay iu bur toidliini 10 stay aud he would let him kno \ % \ Witness ^ iH . > u . id ; ib ' -ut a lniunu * . but was obliged to tfo tv his shop , aud did not set it at all . Shut up k >> V-y-i : i the Gi : Ik > wj : au ? suort ' iy after , trade was vo (

      Toowii ibe TiifsJr . y nisht aKer the murder . Wa . « « "i » rc * lit * nce » I himself about n . fortnight afterwards . VC i-ur np t--i Mr . &ihnond ' s oSlice himsell Cr . vs-i-iaiiiined—He had gone away to see an \ n ; c \ -Whis wife " sin London ( before he was appreh » -i : vlf-r ,. ) liad iiJ iniention at that time positi-rely of toiiji : to America . Abont a fortiiight or three wefk > u-fore taut ; ih .-ugat seriously of going out ; but 1 x ± < l abandoned his intention . Could not-say whar in .-hiced him t- > change iis resolution . Said t »< iI * L * . * : i > i heLr . d iriends tlierewbo wrote to him . and wished iiiany time * he was going too . Wben he 'C-im&jap-tnihe shop on the Wednesday , after the inufcleti . he resolved " on eoing to London to ; see his wife ' s curie . He nud resolved to give up the Gsllowgaje ^ sh ^ p abun ; aibrtuisht befo re he did it . Has a wife sad } w ? chiMren . His wife is cited as a wit-Xhe he

      nes ^ here . : iiigiit walked from his shop to go homft 9 } ong wiih ' y ^ hesa . there was nobody eke -srith tagm . There were a sood many people on the stTi-eim . M ' -Leon was swearin ? and tnMng tvtt load when they came to the Enelisb Church . Dee ' s cot know any rea ; onfor his ttliiag him what he -in-

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      teadedfo do about Arthur , but phly . th&t ne " *** coming about witaew ' s shop . Did not mention this to any body till-after the murder of Smith . Mentioned the murder of Smith to his wife . Does not remonber if he er ar told hiif wife . about Arthur at all . It was on a Sunday night that they borrowed the gloves . Could not tell what was to be done with them . John or iych ^ rd , Osborue ; was with M'Lean [ when he got the glores , also John Brown , Montfomerr , and Thomas Gamp ^ bel . Does not rememer that there whs oae named Lochrie . . Nobody heard the conversation about the-gloves . It was at the back dour . Montgomery first asked him for * ¦ pair of mits . Witness asked what it was , and he said ^ Ob ** Tpn're not up . " -He said , " I'll send ont W 3 BW , Wilh > came out and asked him for a _ p 8 ir of black g loves , and / witness said he could get him a . pair . Witness -went to hi ? mother-in-law ' s , and got

      a pair froin her . Supposes they had been her ftusband s gloves . Did not tnovr whether she had a pair , but went to see . yTnen he said he would get _ a pair , hnd asked his wife if she had a pair . She had none ; and then he went to bis motheMn-law . Gave them to M'Lean at the back-door of his own shop . West and called him . out of the robm , aad told him that he had got apair . AVas going to gite them at the room-door , but he pushed forward to the back-door . Had no idea what was io be done ¦ with the gloves ; suspected he was about something , after he had got them . Told his wife he had fpt the glores . The Sunday immediately before Smith was shot . , Tbey- Tfrere black ¦ worsted -gloves . yeho ;' , Btad y - "J \ rfsH there may not be " some £ til done with them . > " and he h 4 d some suspicions himself , but could not understand what they -were iexacdj ; . There ^ rere some eight or nine gills kimnk-ainong the fire that night ; they were quite jsglflf-llke -when-ne first saw them . M * Lean was 3 « gmthbiK head on the table , apparently asleep || @ij » -ras nfter he had got the gloxes . He came jMMt- « ith ^ iE * love&i he . thinks ., on the Tuesday

      iWap ^ tepSS-W fte , Ofttt < mgate shopr-Moutgoinqry WFj ^^ MM ^ fene . ItiSraB ^ then hiJ told about Kaxing ttie Jaaels of the 5 ji » . Thii was in , th » EEopie told him'iiie story-. f ^ Lean vw & $$ & near tlie door . Tmd MoH \ goinjpf " Tra * f ' oing . Jpt ^ the time . He told part in the room and part in ^ the ? hop . Gave the gloves after they had sat down in the room . They were about twenty minutes in the shop and room together . They came on together , - and went into the rooxh—witness followed them in . There was nobody in charge of the shop but hiinself that he remembers . Does not remember if hft shut ihe room door on going in . 3 > 1 'Lean , on giving back the gloves , said lie was at a certain house , but had been directed to a wrong door , as the mistress would

      iiot let them in . They came out of the room mlo the rhop together . Could not say bow much of the . storv he told in the room , but thinks he told part in the " shop . Montgomery made no remark . L nderstood the three rufiiansto be . M'Lenu , . Montgomery , and thousrhr Campbell was the other . In going out Montgomery might have heard what M'Leau said , but witness " does not know tljat-hi ? did . Does not sav Moutgciyiery is deaf . Could not say that Montifoniery heard all th . it pas ? ed , fis he made no re . m ; irk . M'Leau spoke ra ' -lier low . He wns speak-, iug low when he wns s \ reari : ; i . . He was sitting near the window , and iloutromefy " pretty close to him . Could not sa } " that Montgv > mi » ry beard ail thn-t was sp . 5 d , fur he never spoke « t all . Coiild

      not say how long witness was in the room ; he was nlther better than a . quarter of : m hour in it . Could see into the shoji—occasionally rose and n > ok a peep out . Was s . tdiia : near the door , facing rJ « . > ursn iu . ery aud il'J . rt-au . M'Lvrun v ; is nearest th «* door Remembers now that the door was a little o ]>» 'U . Tliert- aiy tvru rot > ms besides the ibop . They v . ere in one to the left as they gt into the t-h ;> p . The window in the r . > oiu thfy wt-re in " loo'ks into the Ca ~ . lowir . ite . Uiie v . v . nld huve known thvy had got some drink . They had some in the room , and . vit :: ess thinks he tested it . Tiiat witness told M'Lean that what M" ( vuire . had suitl to him was irue . There % vas i . obodv with M-Leau when he told wiriess about the snooting . One would have loiev . iihe had srot some drink . > " ubodv heard tlie

      conversation . It wus ail in the shop . The door was open . It was in the nftexncon he Uud hiiu about Millar . On one occasion he said a numlvr of foolish thiirsrs . Thought whu " . he said about thr « e days of ditrlcness ; was very nfus-asical . Does notrt-iiieinber all the words he " said . Did not pay attention to theni ; he spoke in . lf words here and there , which win . ess cannot remember , but they appeared to him to b ? foolish . He caur . ut rt-yent them , for he does not remember them . What led to the conversatiiin of Siuitli and Mii 2- ' : r was couceniiag the crimes he had been com : ni ; riug . Heard uftbe reward ojiVred fur i \ if conviction cti" ihe murderer that Tuss-iUiv

      31 'Lesn came int . ' the shop . M'Lennshowed it to him himself upon fbe wall . Witness read it . Ilnd serii -only one placard , but read of another n : t .-r ilvcaiue back from Lnudon . Dues not remember where he heard « .-f it ; but thinks he had seen it upon tbc ; wall . -G ave inlViriaatiun about all this after he was in prison . Did lio : consider himself in nny dancer wh ? E he- was in London . Believed thnt ' . M-Lean was the lanrderer of tinith , but did not give infi > : 7 nation axaiust him in London . He cannot give a reason for this , jr-. v ^ uld have been a bad job for bini ii ha had done so . ns M'Iv * "in niicut have ikthaps < : one him evil airnin , tli- > ugh'ho beV . eved * h ¦ > v ; : « i : ; per . 1--- ; saiery in Lc : / Jun .

      i ' v-t-x ¦ .: uiinrJ—When tukeu before tae Siieni ! , lie was n . it willing to spt-ak out at first . It . was ; n " rer he Lad bren examined several lime .- t " i ; ar he told th " S : !' .-rii !\ vh ^ t lu * ba > now sworn t-. lie w-. - . t ainiiii U > spi-i'k . because he was under an oath not to revcr-l any rhiiit - . and kn < : wine there were so many in . ! :-\ ii-. als shot nt and burnt with \ itrii > l by the - \<< oi" 3 atl < m . It w . ts a sl-ruple about the onth . a .-.. \ a dread of vensvaiice if he violated i * . lie ( 'id js-1 - ]) ei : k till the Sherift'had assured-him of : > rote ..-u : > : ; . Did not tliuik it a sin to speak out vrV . e : s lit * st , > v le wt : a ] d be ke ; it iu safety . Did not refose m » pv . ii

      out Lecai : s - i . e hnd any coubi in li > & nnnJ <> 1 t :: e tn-. th of 2-i-Lv ; ii )' s story . It w ; is the iVar ; : nd lli < j > a ; h tlint ; nade him refi ;> N ? . Thinks on the Tu . e > . ' i < i " M * L ? : iii had a irre .:: i coat with 2 " * - ' ki"ti , u ::-ii-. moleskin tr . n ^ er ? . r . nd a black hr ^ . By the Court—U ' heii he was i ? i I .-rn ' on he left his wife ? nd children hi Gla ^ 'ow . 1 p ; iii his 5-i ^ e : n : i usitli . with the fear of Gcvd , an . l in the face of the . <" ury . lie h : > d stsred nothiug but the truth . James ii : imi ! to 2 :. partner »< f the slnpydm : coia ] .: ray of Hai :: ut- ) U , iliiliT . o : Co .. has ves ^ exs w " u ' .--h miiI to . " linerira . ldeistiHesa It-tier from L vi-r . MM ] . rej

      .-rdme uk * s"nii . iii £ of a vessel to-Amerji "' .. < :: jre- 'i 17 t--4 > i July . Advertised the ^ aiiinir of the vessel— : <> sail on the 24 ill ofJuiy . Vi-ssel ' siiaTnu ' . vas Iieiirv ; : ;« i ' oiir : ; .. It was to sail for Xew York - - \ iter r > vi-i ; ' : u ; lerr .-. - . ' . t : i > waiuv-i upoii by .-vnne persons to t : ; ke ¦ '' pUv-iia ! . ' . Tlrejv whs aj .- -licsitiun fur a pass : u-. 1 < t ; i >)••! :. uer . Thpri » was s ^ uje crtnviTsati on on the :: dij :--t . It . ' . ;< - not Inter than Friday after the U' :: er \ v . \ - rec .- ' . -. o ; l . "¦• a d the letter to the pprsins ni » i > Vh : ir . It v :: > clUn-r <> a V , \ -u 2 u » ! ny or 1 hursday . bcTno : L- ; t ' . r th . ' Friday . M'Lean . the pris mer , wa « on ? « 'i th ,- j ; .-r-:-: ^ ii w ho nyylied tv > vri . nY >>> for a > trerr . 2 e ] in-.- -. ii ; e . Tin-re v » n < nnoUit'T m ? . n witiiliim , bat ir w : > i : uiu ' <> f ihe oiher prisuiKTs at the bar . M'Lean did not tr . ke a jius ^ as-e : said he would call iack , bi : C uid

      I }'; . l ' .. r f ' if * panml- —Has never seen M-Ler . a siaa . Uciiiifi .-J a man ahowu to hin :, but uid imz k : > o ¦ .. his na :.. e . Does ijotrtcollect wh :: c kind of c ... > t he had on : think .- it was velveteen . Is periVctly r ^ rtfi ' n 31 'Lean is the man . Asked the rates o : p :. --sa-re ; t "Id hiiu the rates , when be sai < U behi- a : »>\; i sjr . nnt .-r , he hoj » od h »» would i .: ke him for lei .- " , and wiuiess agr ? t »( l to dii s <> . Ther <* hai been n" - j > inniT * emiaratiiig for some mouths he tort' that tune Hrid a great in : my previously , and Ivlieved the . isso .-iati . 'U paid the piis ^ n ^ e money . Got considerable sums frojii the Association forpass . 'iges . un ^ f » , vdra . fi s on America beades . They were e mis rating liirly : ; nd openly . 1 ]; t-r ; ' were sume fe-v cases v . l-. eve they 10 . > k hctiii «» us names , on account of du-br , lit-suj . -i > t » ii " i ! . M " Le : m j-a-. t- ii-j name when hii applied .

      Yi'ilh ' am Armstrong is a clt-rk with H . iniilron , Brothers . iV Co . Identified the letters from Liwrpoul . Remembers the week thai ^ luith was murdered , some spinners applying for a yastuue i > y the Henry IV . There were five men . They applied on Mniiuiiy ^ or Ti » -su :: y . Mr . Hamiltoii was ' jjoi in the o ;]" c <* . They first aski * J the rates of ] j ; :-sage by thoir y- ^ - ^ t-is to New Vork . und witnesstid < l them : hr Tat < -s . The persons wt-re ] iv * t . iiesspd li ^ e rh . ' ]> rJsoncrs ar Uif bar . Pointed out ( iibb at the bar as one uf the five . There were none of the other prisoners there . They did not : i ^ ree upon a passage , but spoke of culling buck to see Mr . Hamilton . Did not see them call back . . They spoke generally abimt the steerage passage . Adam Dickson—Has been a cotton s-nnner

      about tlurteen years . Werked in Oswald * k Co . ' s mill previous to the strike .. Js a member of the Association . Has been so riiice he became u . cotton spinner . Was admitted a member hi the Uliick Boy 'lavern . Was not _ sworn when b _> entered ; and no oath was ever administered to him . The articles of the Society vere read to him when ue was admitted . Joined in the strike in April last . Attended general meetings of the Association afterwards . Attended one meeting , when twelve individuals were appointed a Finance Committee .. It was some days nicer the strike . Itis the same nstheSupply Coimuiuee . Was not a jnember of the Committee . Nwier heard of a Secret Select Committee . Has heard of select meetings ^ when ' an important question was to be

      discussed , the wisest and most judicious men from each shop were appointed to attend . There has been meetings of these men since the strike . Each shop appointed a delegate to them . It was about four weeks after the strike thnt the delegates were appointed . Archibald . M'Kay was delegate from ¦ vritness ' s shop , Thej' got instructions that a meeting of the Committee wished a maa from each shoo . This was stated at a general meeomg of the Associ ation , held in * the Lniversah' st ' s . Chapel . M'Kay remained in office . It was customary to have a delegate meeting once a-week . There vrrre delegates appointed before as well as after the strike . It is the custom at all times to have delegates ; but an order is issued at such times- for wise aud judicious

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      mer ^ beyoh ' d ttier ^ ordvMr / delegates ; and imca an order Vas given . after the : strike . He secretly offered to work at the first redb ' ction of wages ; but a more exten ^ fe Tedoction wa s made . Heard of Smith ' s murder at iheltinie ithappened . Was in the Black Boj Tavern cm ; Monday following . •¦;; Knows the prwoner M'Lean by sight . Sawjhim in thepaasage at the Black J&jV p « spoke to witness . - '/ . He was much the ' worse of Uquor . Catched witnesaby the collar as he wa * 8 ' j ? assing and said , "I believe there ' s one b—^ i ^ e ^ i *' :. ' ^ . Witnes 8 asked ^ hat ; lie meant , aiid he- asked K he- liad not heard of the man being shot tn' Ahderttoia . ; W . itnes * said he hadj ' ahd he at

      diooghtitwas abitjc He seemed to lau ^ i witneau , and aaid seme Resting word iritch he does not positively . remember . He than asked if tfieCon ^ - mittee -va ^ Sa ^ and ; witness said he did i ^ t knojf . He said , he wanted 10 s , or 15 s . ^ Hs-ihjeuljfaidhu believed there was ' .-no dmon—a phrase which is common , and ' ineans , if there is any inischfef done-that there is no suspicion abroad of the person who did it . Witoess didiwt recollect what jesting wordsbie used ; hp talked Bomeihing a * if . witness wa « Methodist faced , meaning , inclined to be a Methodist , fitness has wrought at the reduced : prices , and pan earn from ijtiii . la * -Sag . a-week , after naying the j > ie , cer 8 , Pays the piecersM 12 s . 6 d . a fortnight . ButwftnesseBs ' s wages are no emulation for omcrs , aa Md wheels ^ reabbutdoubletfeu ' gual ' sire ; KtWre ^ tictioiii had not taken place he touldMYe-eahiedabout two guineas a-week . The rtduetitm on his wages was abaat 23 per cent . Some men earn as low as 15 n ., andfean that to a pound . Considers that Ms ; wages

      , are , cbout tae highest , and the wheels , in the factory being all . pf a sa ^ i the other men in tl » e factory earii las mnci as him . . ; ¦ j ^ Q ^ -examiued-TWitess never came under ( an obligation to do acts of ^ ialence . Is aot avwe such jobligatiohorqalji . beuigt . Hkeh ,, N « v ^ r heard of an y-r thing of the ^ kind . Has . been a melnber of the ¦ Association for 13 years . Is speakuig ; freeljr and-. without tehi of donsequences , . and ¦ vrtthput secret of mental reg «| Tation . Remembers the dme when tit % meeting was held © 0 Glasgow Gfeenin JunelaSS bni did AoMittend the meeting . There was a mew Jng thesa ^ MseresnngrinSmiAi ' ai ^ the JBlack Mfe

      was there . There might bebetween 30 a **«^ S sent . Don ' t remember uf / oeiug any jnembenrof the Finance or Supply Committee' there . Waanearr ly J ; wo hours in tne meeting . The meeting bwMf pp ^ onie time before ten o'clock . They were ettV deawnniug to adopt measures to assist the Fiuancft Committee . Witness was himself in the chair alii the time he was ptfesent . Does not remember seeing ( Jibb at the meeting , or any one of the prisouejrs . Kiiowsa man name James Muat , a cotton spinner . Is not aware he has any other occupation . Knowsone William M'Gowan , and a inan . nained £ phn Davis , Did Hot hear Muat make a speech . T ) 6 es remenfeer seeing . him at the ineaiting , bu | he ntadtv no speech . Does not remember Davis making a

      speech—Grinkf he saw hint .. there , ' 'but cannot be positive . Is not aware of William M'Gowau'beiiig there . On hi * oath , heard no pr <> pi > s ; J jnixiid for a Selector Secret Select tonnnittee . Nothing of ^ tke kind w as addressed to him as Ciwvruv . ui , aud is < jnitii certain Gibb was not in f he chair . Never heart \ ofa . Select , or Secret Committee iu-Ins . life , or of ; nny Committee under such or similar rinmos , the . purpose ' of which was to superintend , direct , or control violence to life or property . The ]> urpose of the Association was just to ondeavour to keep up the rate of wages by lawful means . Aliment was given during strikes to persons out of employTnent . -Money was occasionally offered to persons emigrating from the country , aiid aliment ' . ocoasionally to the wives and children of poor operatives , _ tSeyer knew ar heard of money being , given ais u , n iustj ^ atioii to , or reward for , acts of viuk'iu-e . Wituessis still a meihber of the AsM > cint . t > n . Witness inotwith M'Kay , the deksatii ' of his mill : and went along witlihim to the

      meeting-of delegates , and vra . < elected Chiiirman after he went-in . Could not positively- sav who proposed him fur the chair . Has known Huntor-eyer since he became ' an operative cotton spinner . . ¦ Has kno % va Haclifct obont- four or five years—M'Neill about the same leuuth of tiun—Gibb about ten or ' tweke years . They are all warned , and except M'Xeill , have families . So far ; us wihu'sg knew them , they have been sober , steady- num . lias seen , them frequently ul tlie Meetings of Association . Never heard tln-m urge or iiroposc njoasnivs of violence . Has known "¦ M'Ledn by &i « rli _ t since ; he was a boy , bnt wns never ncmninted with liim . Is an elder " in Mr .-Harvey ' s lli-lief Church , and has been so about three years . K « . pt a Sunday schoolat one tiuie . M 'Lean was very . much the worsiV of liquor when . witness had the conversation with , him . It was'iu- the pa . s £ age of-S . uiuh ' s house . M -Le . an did not say in ; had any coucern in Smith's -nuitdcar , ' and did not lead witness to bolieveso . : u

      By the Court—Nevor fonnrl an opinion \ vlietli , er M'f . ean had any concern in the murder . i rvir . ILobertsun—Did not look upon . " -tin * stateuiebt a . s the confession of a murderer ; looked rather at We vulsarity of the lnnsruiige . ' ^ \ iti $ t" < lie-examined— -The affairs . of the Asst » ciaj ^ irw * Kianagedby the Finance Comtmtte ' e , aiVVWRt-dutes t > ft ! u " " Vxpenditure . were sent t " : iro ; igh the dinVn'nt vr < irks every fortnight . All the bunds , set * thttn , and witness had si ' .-n thorn regularly . . Knows there wits a UT . JiTil Committee appointed ' during tlie last str . ke . 1- ^ tch member of Co : ;; raittci J had ' a . ( vrtiiiti jiuu : b : '" - 'f nien under him , and went to the various works i " ,.: it were taking in i . ew hands to see A'liiiti ih'w hands were ffoihfi- in . Cannot- tell rill flic

      names of the Guard Coninnttee ; sometimes , there v .-i-re f-w . and at other tini ,-.- tivre was douliK-. Tht-se uiitfht be from six or eitrht -to ten . Waller Morrison , . lolm 'i ' vutter , M : vtt ' aew V « vk , imd . lohn P :. rki-r . Wiir . er-s held otVice in the Assoi-huiun abvnii I ' . velve or iouriei .-n months ago . 11 ^ was a membrr of the * Finance Conairniii-v In the s' -lu' - dnles saw onre the word ¦' collieries' in the entry . Witue- -. - ¦ could not sjiv what it nie :: ' ! t ; he sa \ r it . in ^ irSalniond ' s . ofiii-e . " Tbi > - wa . s dnrinj the investi-L :: tion oi" tlie va- ' .-seut case . : ]) n .-5 not lvui-. 'iuber M- 'cinj ; the word "iujriiiveb ia the selivdule , v . ith u sum of money at it . Bv uw Court—Ni'wr > aw ' aii < u : ' th ridnnn ' . stered to

      a :: y u ; : < . » . i ; or he ; ird of any sudi a lliiuir . Air . S ; t'w ,-srt—Has seen cxjunisi's ! oiru ; : rdsenti'ri . 'd in ti ; . ' s . hedides . hi one t-urry there is an entry ¦• Hr . unl t . ' 2-i . ' Cannot yivu * ; iti explanation of siicli .- ; iurjf s : ini , but inoTs thnt fhe Cojniniffee were in the ' i ::: "!/ . v of ireatiiig the m-w h : ipd . s and their friea is . ]]• . ' (!>! .- > not know any other thing . Does not know ' . r-i :: r " cxpe 2 j- - "S with ' nobs ' Divans , jf it is not the sani ^ . fan scarcely jri ' . e an explanation of tla- " % vi > beii : jr Y ' ll do . vu » epa . r ° . te ! y . Knows a 1 ' aivick rii'iit'K . u :, who wjis a iiiember of the -Association . IK- w :-.:, .-. ine-. iiber s . iim 1 y-.-ars ; i / o wlit'iilie-embarke- ' in - ¦ •); : !< ¦ utr . er inisiiK-ss . but believes he is no ' -. v ¦ s ; - >

      ui-: in : ir nc- 'Tii . i-- - the C . n-. rt—Ilnsn ' othr . euron-nm'diii jail before ro : ; :: ii ^ ht-re . Coul ! . s .-. irivly speak po . iitiyely • vhrt n : rh ? i :.- iii-eciuir w ' .-u heJd when -lie vr :-. s in tlie ch : ur , bift lui-. ikr' it w ; :-- soinewht-re jirmnttli . e 14 th ol June . Ha < no di ' . ' / r cause to think it was the same lnViit u-Jrii the : r-edni £ 0 : 1 the Green but from hearing the meinbers ; -f th-. ' iiieetraor sper . k of what they beard i " ro : u . Dr . T : iylor that day . ' l'lieineetinjf ; ij >] ie ; ire 1 to br ^ -. vk « p > vht- ' . \ v .-itu .-ss came av .-ay . Did not look exacuv . Two or ibrce c . ; jm ; <^ it of the close -iiK iig with V . imi-ss . Archibvld Murkay : md J : iint ? s ril' ^ ii .-h v . vre two vhn-cr . me away with him . C ' . uii »«; t name any mort * at pu-seut . 'i ' liat was before ten nVloi-k . Mvt abfut eiiiht o ' clock . Tliere v , a ^ a

      nuriiliT ti ; ere l > c-i ; ire witness v . cv . t in .. T I ' ve v were si : riu ^ o ; i iL-. ? j " . ir " us , cli-.-. ttihir tu . each other , and they i : LH 3 evli : itely proposed ti .:: t . wiuifss should t :: ke the chair , thouali lie wiij n » t a de ; e < ' ; ue . It is . cr .-i ;; iiiary in : dl dulejrate Jkei-tliurs . for ]> e / s ( ii : s ty utieiid altlionuh tLey are not deh'gati--. Ca . ;; not reiuemiier-. ii present anolherdeietMteineeting , wlu-re a p .-rsoi : nor a de ; e ^; j * t * \ v ; i < jiiade-Chninnaii . C ; ujjuit reci ! ili-ct of the word collieries being in . the -ch-.-dun-s . but he did not see any during tlie suike , as ul that time they were n . H regularly wui to . tlie workt . They warn not s .-nt to tue lueii that hud belonged to i ! k- shop during-the strikv . Dues not renumber ofse ¦ i : iir :: ny . Does not knov . - that the As » ociu-lon had anviliiuf 10 do with new braids , in

      setting guard , u : ileisi \ was for satisi ' act : on to-llieinsenvs . H" > heard that , thtnv was-disturbance at the mills . On bis oath does not believe that the Assiv ' iiiUou sysVuK'tkrlly . I'Xfe ' nsively . and con-• tsjntly ; r ; v'j to oi . sirncc rhenobs . Would -not have iike ; i u > try hhiiself wiierher < i nob inisrbt ' walk me streets of ( Jl : i > s : ow unprotected by day and by nitiht —( Great laughter . ) Knows a man named Kiddie , menibt-r of the Association—there are t \ vo Ivrythers . Heard thitt one of them , was tried and found giiilty of usinrr \ ioleiice . and heard it stated at a meeting of the Association , that there had been u communication vuh the Association - on " the subject : Heard it

      said thafhe bad bVen taken up for " molesting 'the new hands ; aud heard it stated , that there was a proposition to delay sentence upon him 011 an engage ' iiient that there siioiild be no more -molestutiuii of the new bauds . Understands that lhat engagement was made by the Asspciotion . Was also informed rhat the guards wTfe to be withdrawn after the molestation . One of the objects of 'the guards was . to Sv-e whether persons ' receiving aliment weut to the work , that they might be struck oft" the books . Does not know the meaning of the words collieries and fugitives , and does not know the meaning of the money spent on the nobs .

      By a Juryman—It is a , customary thing among the cotton pinners , for the delegates tobe chosen b y rotation ; and vrhe . 11 a question of importance arise .- - , an order comus from the Finance Committee to send ihe most wise and judicious men they can pick ont t . < the meeting . The two delegates generally do not go on the sume night . . Hy the Court— "Ktver heard of a Secret Select Committee being spoken -. ' . bout in the trade at all . Ther ^ never was any meeting , particularly where members were _ admitted , - any word of Scripture used . Never saw a Bible used at the meeting . The Bible libelled being shown lmn , he deposed to seeing it in Mr . Salmona ' s office—never saw it in the-Cuinmittee-rooin . The Court then adjourned . 'Toiecjiiffritelinournext . )

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      \ V&J $ & QF ; TH : E YtXBKSHiRE AND tAN ; fclSfilRE MEMSfeKS ON 1-HE FOLLOW ;¦ im JXvisims ^ - ¦ ¦ ¦ :- ' -: . - ¦

      Parliamentary Electors arid Freemen Bill .- — Ocder for Committee read ; : Motion inadej and Question put , "That it be an Instruction to tte Committee that they have power to * diyide the Bill into two Bills . ' ! ( Mr . Hinde . ) The Hbuse divided —Ayes , 68 ; No «^; ' 15 & . v : : > ' ; : - ' ¦ ::-. ¦ ¦ : ' MiNORiTY--AYE Fielden J ., Eenton J ., Hindley C . y Lister E . C » , Molejswbrth Sir "V Y ., Parker J ., Phillips M . J Pi ; 6 theroe E ., Strickland Sir G . Turner E ., Woodrc . . ¦ '¦ ¦ . - ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ " : ¦ • ¦ ¦" . ¦ ¦¦ ¦ ¦¦ ' ¦

      Parliamentary Electors Bill ( in Committee . ) - — Firsjt Clause , " Bates , and taxes of Persons already on ; the Register of Parliamentary Electors 'for B » maghs need not be paid before the 11 th day of the previous October . " Amendinerit proposed , 1 , 10 , to leave out the following worda , " whose name * is or ^ hall be upon : the Eegister for the time being as entitled ! to rote in the Election of a Member or Members of Parliament to serve in Parliament for any Ci < y ( , Tow . n , or ;¦ Borough' in England . " Question put , " ' . That"the ; words- ¦ proposed to be left out stand part of the Clause . " The Committee divided : —Ayes , 206 : Noes , 10 ? .

      Majority—Ayes . —Broadley H ., Busfield : W ., Gayley E . S ., Dundas Hon . T ., Trench ; -F ., " -Jipgg j . W ,,... J ! imes" $ i-r W . C , Lowther J . H ., Parker J ., Pembertou T ., Rich JI-, Suy-Men ' ' ¦ Right Hon . Siv E ., WUborforce W ., "Wood | C ., Wrightson W . B . ,-- . . ¦ ' . Mii \ 'OJttlTY--NoES . —Baines E . Brotherton J ., Fielden J ., Fenton J ., Hinnjey C ., John-Btone oietieral ., Hftkv E . G ., Mo \ e * worth Sir W ., Philips . M ,,-. Proth « roc ' E ., Stansfield WII . C , Striokland Sir G . ' f . First Clause . —Motion made , and ( Question put , . " That the Clause stand part of ihe Bill . " The Coaimittee divided : — -Ayes , 214 : Noes , 118 .

      M'AJoniTY—Ayes . — -Baines E ., Broadwood H ; , ¦ " ¦ Brotherto . u J ., IJusfieJd . W .,. Cayiey E . S ., Dundas Hon . T ., Hiudley C , Johnston 6 renL , Lister E ^ C ^ ., Mok-sworth Sir "W ,, Parker J ., Philips M ., Protiieroiv E ., Rich R ., Stansneld W . R . C , Style Sir C , Thoin . son lit , Hon . C . P .. WoodC , Wiigbtson W . B . ' . Minority—KoEs . —Bfoadley H ., Hogg J . W ,, James Sir W . C ., Lowther J . H ., Petribertnn T ., Sugden Riglit Hon . Sir E ., AVilberlbrce Wl ' :. - ¦ ' ¦ ¦ . ' .......

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      ) ( Continttcrf from our third jji . qc . ) thotn ' the time forconi'essipn had gone by . nudtliat though it would have , been right to give wiiat the Canadi ' Biisiisked now , and what they had asked before tha . rebellion-broke , out ,-it . would be wrong to give if uow that the rebellion had broken out . If it was right to grant their demand * v . t any time it was rii'ht still . If it had hitherto bi-eri \ vro » g to grant them it , \ vas ' .-wrpug still ; and let tbeni make up their minds steadily to refuse them .. If they were' right in doing no , the ' ¦ character of this country was quite high enough to prevent iihyrVHiig fn . mi " staiuhig or . t-imishinK its lustre : let ( Jovernnient dowhat was ¦

      right , and they need fear no orie ' ^ twittiup : ' them with vacillation or' weakness . ¦¦ ' Let thein make jiistice . their rule , their guide ,, the basis of all their actions , an / 1 slander could not touch thein . Let them do their utmost endeavour to bring- about that peace without which extended empire was but exrended . weakness—winch , if thc-y did not restore , they would find vain all their victories iii the field , or in the . Conncil , or in the Legislature ; if they -did not concilinte the real iiftectums . pf our Canadian brethren , they might depend on it tJiat they would ¦ liud . Caiiiida , oven if they maintained it , but accumtilated weakness . ¦

      . ¦ Viseo " u ? itMKIJiOUIl > "E tbahke ' d-the Noble aud Learned TiOrd for the' exHovtiition and-admonition with which he had concluded his speech . He could only »;\ y that ] w entirely adopted the tone , lie perfe-ctly cononrred in tlie . spint , he agreed in the justice jind the wisdom of that admonition , and he was oituh ; -. prepared . to state that by die principles which ins Noble and Learned Lord had so ably , and powei fully , and ulomumtly . impressed' P ^ eir Lordships , ! ier ; MajpsQ- 's Minister ;? , in the difficult ,, coarse in which they were : ; pn . mi } wdiiwonldbe entirely guidecl . For that part of the Noble and . Learned'Lord ' s speech recommending harmony and conciliation , and attention to the -dictates of-justice tempered

      with merrYv . tho only -p ' tire and enlarffed poli'cv , he CVi . acouht Melbonriie ) was oxtremely ohlip-erL Those parts of the -Noble-and Learned Lord ' s speech Miieh were of a ditlerent - . nature ' i which v .-ere so ' ¦ ¦ t ' . if're and . sarcastic in their toue . their Lordships would readily Excuse iiim from troul ^ inir them with any Ieii-irtheni } rt , rt * ply . t 6 ; .. Ajfter ' a very feeble -attempt to re-jily , the Noble . Lord concluded by sa \ -inir that no"t \ vUhstan '( lin < r tlift severity of thiVNobJ ^ Ear ] opu ' nsite , aiid the lniterne . ss , the acerbity of tlie Li > : ) riu >( l _ Lord " on lii-i right hand , vet tohini ( Viscount vat

      Meluonrue ) it wii « i ' a .- ^ -i ' matter of consolation thaVbn tho Bi ^ before , their Lord sh ips there was . no difference . " of opinion . He could assure their Lordships that so f / ir . ; . is the Government < if this country was concerned , and as far as the Noble Earl entrusted with the execution of the measure wns conceniL'd , tliere was the utmost anxiety to heal th " wounds now open ,-to produce a return of good frelinp and iiiVectiop between this country and Cfinadn , and to do everything to promote the , happijieris and i > n )? pi > rity . of that , province . —( Hear . ) After the

      Duke of YVELLINGTON , Lord WJIARNCLIFFE , and Lord ASmU'RTON -had delivered their re-. sjiertive speeches , tlie Bill was read a second time , and or . J (> red to l > e conimitted on Monday . Lord BKDrfMLVM jhoved . without " styling him nsreiu totlje House-Vvf Assembly , thnt John Arthur Ifoebuck . Esq .. be heard nf tlie bar of their Lord-• ships' -Ijous ' e-on Monday next against the passing of the CaindaBill . —Agreed to . ¦ The Third Report of the Commissioners of Edn'( rtHtion '( Scotland )" ' -was laid on the table , after which ¦ tin . 1 louse , adjonnred until Alotiday next .

      - HOUHK OF COMMONS . FRIDAY , February 2 . The SPEAKER to-. k tlie chair at the usual hour , wjien Mr . Bmsth . rn Baring took the paths and his Rfat for Marilioronfrlr . . 'Messenfrprs from the Nnvy Office and the East In < Ha liMii . ** iircseiirw ? - 'Papers . i \ ir . FAIU'OTT presented a petition from an indivi . du . iil of Fotue .-. s in Devonshire , complaining of the stfwidi ;) . " : orders of the House .

      Ihe petition was reft'rred to the Committee on Private--Hills * Mr . EA-ftLE ]) reseiifed it pedtion from the Co . unsel of the- Palace Court , stilting that a Dill was ppn ' t'hiff in that House for the recovery of Small Debts in Finsbury ' , that there Were certain Clauses in tli . it Bill ' -tending to injure them in - . their-office ; and prayiiijf tlie-y linVht be heard by their Counsel or iinrrtitsfigninst such Clauses . Referred to the Committee . Mr . I IT S . DLKY presented a petition against the Gla ^ ow Water W ork s . Bill .

      EniN-ni T i : (; n-estates bill . The ATTORNEY GENERAL presented n petition from the Lord Provost ,.-, Magistrates ' . Town Conncil , the Trustees ' for-. -the Creditors of the City of Edin . bnrsh , and a nnhiber of tlie Creditors , prayimr for a-Bill h » alter the Kdiuburyjli City Estates Act .

      ¦ M . UII . VK --IXSL ' . ilAXCES . Mr . WALLAC E presented a petition from tlie Chamber of Commerce in Greenock , praying for the repeal of the duty on Marine Insurances . :

      ltATf . 8 . . Or POSTAGES .. - . Mr . WALLACE also presented a petition from the'Chainber of Commerce in . Greenock , and from another town in Scotland , praying for a reduction in the rates of Postages . v Mr . GBIMSDITCH presented a petition from '" a parish in the county of Durham , prayiitc for the immediate and total repeal of the New Poor Law Act . : . ' ¦ ¦ ¦ , . - . - . ¦ ¦ ; ,.: .. ¦ . - ¦ ¦¦ ¦ ; Mr . EAULE presented a petition from Oxford against . -the Nearer ' ¦ ¦ ¦ . Apprenticeship- System , in the Colonies . Mr . DUCKWORTH presented a ' similar petition from Lincoln . > ¦ . ; ¦ . ' - , .

      Mr . MACKINNON presented a petition from St . _ Botolpli s , Bishopsgate , in favour of the Bill which he has introduced to amend , the Law of Patents . V ; . ¦ . -: . •' , ¦ . -:: ¦ '¦ . .. "¦ ' .. .- ; . ; .. ' .. - .-MriHINDLEY presented a petition from Ashton-under-Line ,-pmying . the \ House to adopt concDiator } ' measures towards the people ' . of . Canada . - ¦ - . ¦ Mr , REDDINGTON presented a petition from merchants and others of the borough of Dundalk , p ' raying . fqr a repeal of the duty of Marine Insrirauces ' '' - . ' - ' . "' . ¦ - ¦ ¦' . '¦ ' '¦ : ¦ '¦ ¦ " : . '¦'¦ ¦ .. . . "'

      . . . . An Hon . Member , whose name we could not learn , presented a similar petition from the West Indian Association , of Gloucester , , Colonel SALWEY presented a petition from Ludlow in favour of the Ballot . An HON . MEMBER presented a petition from Lincoln . fP an extension of the Jurisdiction of

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      Sheriffs' Cdiirts , ' and for various Amendments in the Sheriffs' Courts Bill now before tne House . : , - V : : i : Mt .: S ^ J TR ^^ fit ^ ij ^ H 6 on- - S ^ mV ^ ti& ^ p ' . ton , praying for the establishment of a ' - ' Court of Record rar small debts for the county , similar t © that existing ih tb ^ e fowh .: y .- /^ ' _ - ; :::. ' ¦ : ¦'¦ - '; - ¦'' - ¦'¦ 'A-V- ^ - ' Lord A . PAGET presented a petition from a place the name of which we cpuld not exactly catca—it sounded like Witham —^ against thesystem of-Negro Apprenliceship in- ' the Colonies . ^ ^ ¦ : i - . Mr . . ETWaLL presented a petition from Andover in favour pfthe apprenticed Negroes . \ Mr ; HUME presented a petition from th ^ Cunnpek / Ayr ) Jtadical Association ydepreCating the re § o-Iution 8 passed lust year , regarding Canada , sis an

      infringeinent on the just rights of : the Canadians ; ' , and praying tbis House to refuse all ; 8 upj ) lie 3 , whether of men or money , for the purpose of coercing the Caiiadians . The Hpn . ^ Member , seeing tlte Cnancejlor of the Exchequer iii bis plaGe , wpnld take that opportunity of presenting a petition" , wbicb . was of considerable" importa ' h ' ce , ' -nnd whichi wa »* signed by all the'leading merchants , traders , and brokers of the city of Lonapn . The petitioners complained , and . he thought with great reason * of a system adopted within the last few months , by the Stamp-office , of charging the Price Current , and not / allowing the names of persons to be inserted- in the Commercial Daily List without , such payment . The petition alluded to a notice of motion relating : to the same

      subject wliicli , be ( Mr . H . ) had placed on the books for to-night , when he y ? ould have an opportunity of entering mote at large into the grievances complaiiir ed of by the petitioners . , plv . LEADER presented a petition agreed to at a large meeting which wns held at Edinburgbj , arid signed by John Fraser , the Chairman , on behalf of the meeting , against the coercion pf Canada . ; * ' .. Mr . BAINES presented a petition from Leeds , signed by 15 , 000 inhabitants of that tpwn ,. co : niplajn > ing . lh ' at , notwithstanding the me ^ ures which . Kad been taken by Government to put down slavery ' in the West Indies ; , its most aggravated features still remained . The petitioners stated , under the apprenticeship system the negroes were treated with the greatest cruelty— that tne food gvvetv them -was y&-snmcient for sustenance—and that tne whole- system was repulsive to every principle ; of English'law .

      They stated , also ; that proof could be adduced / that the system operated in a manner most prejucljcinl to British interests ; and they say there would be no difficulty jn putting an end to a-system repugnant fp every feeling of justice and Liimsinity , because , in the "i slands of Antigua and Bermuda , the experi-, -merit of liberatiup the slaves had been tried , and- it had not been found that the public peace of these islands was le ? s complete than when the apprenticeship system was in force . They therefore prayed that ftii end might be put to the system on the 1 st of August next at the latest . As the Hon . Member for Warwickshire ' had given notice of a motion on / the subject , he ( Mr . B . ) would-not . at present say more than that -a . strong feeling prevailed throughout the country on thesubject , aria that"he hoped measures would " be adopted to settle this question on the principles of ¦ humanity find benevolence . .

      Mr . LABOUCifERE gave notice that on Monday next lie should , move that the : House resolve itself into a Committee of the whole ilpus . e , to- . coii ; sider the Act 1 , Will , 4 , c . 70 , regularing the coal trade of thi'port of . London . _ - Caj t rial GORDON presented n petition from the " Advocates of Aberdeen , against the Sheriffs' Court , Scotland Bill , Seeing the Learned Lord in his place , lie begged to ask ' ¦ him whether he . had any objection to postpone the Bill . < The LORD ADVOCATE had been frequently reproached for putting off Bills , and he hail afterwards found the greatest difiiGU-lty in bringing those Bills , forward . lie intended to propose several alterations in the committee 021 the Bill , which he trusted would remove all tlie objections that at present existed .

      An Hon .. Member , vrhose name we could not learn , presented two petitions in f-vour of-the Ballot . Sir R . INCtLIS presented a petition from the Dean and Ch .-ipter of the Cathedral Churcji . of Exeter , airainst tlie suppression of the Bishopric ot Sodor imJMsn . Lord SANDON presented a jvetitioii from the Town -Connql of Liverpool , praying tor an immedinte repi'ul of the Appreutioesliip Clauses of tin ; Bill for "Abolish-in- !? Slavery in the West Indies . Lord C . Fl'rZROY presented a petition to the saiin * efl ' w'ct from Bury Sti Edmunds . An Hon . Member ( we believe Mr . CHISMOLM ) l ) effged to ask the Chancellor of the Exclieoner .

      whe-rn he then sa \ y in his place , whether it was bis intention to proceed with the Bill for the Extension of Education in the Highlands of Scotland . It-was a subject up . 611 which great anxiety was felt in that country , apd he had been requested to press it . upon the attention of'thr Right Hon . Gentleman opposite . The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER , wh ' . » spoke in an exceelingly low tone of voice , with his bacl : to the Ri'porter ' s "( J ; illerv , -was understood to say that In- wmild proceed with the Bill on Tuesday . M \\ -WAKLE-Y . would-. 'tAke tliat oppovtuivity' ' ot asking "the Right Hon . Gehtteman whether btvcis ]) fepared to proceed with any measure for the extension of Education in England , where it was as rcrich wanted as in Scotland . ¦¦ ¦•

      The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that the pies -nt was not a suitable occasion for-going ii > to th ' e qiiL \ srif . > H raised by the Hon . Afeniber for Fm . sbjiry . The Bill to which the Hon . Jk ' Ieuibdr . opposite bnd referred , related only to n few pvtriahes , and h « only brought-ic for ' -vartf to enable him to carry into ell ' ect a declnration -which-lie had made to a deputation which had waited upon him . Mr . BAINES .-moved for . returns ' -of the quantities of linen yarn exported in ' the years 1834 , 183 ; 3 , 1 H 3 () , ami ll ? 37 . / respectively . Tlic'LOIU ) ADVOCATE ' . gave notice that he woiild . on Monday , move tlint the House resolve ' itself into a eonimittoe of the whole House on the Court i » f Sessiou .-Scotla . nil Bill . Sir G EOR-fJ K SINCI . Alll wislied to Ask his Right Hon . Friend , whether it was liis intention to propose - nriy : Vher : ttion in the salaries of the Scotch . ludsres durintr the prost-ut session ? Tlve LOUD ADVOCATE stat e d that he wns ; nmble . at present , to answer the question of the lion . Baronet .

      CANADA . Sir Tv . 1 XCLIS wi > lu ; d to . isk two . questions of eims < leniMe importance . The first related to the Caroline ste . uner . and luv wished to know wbethe . r tit ;! Government were in possession of any further account-- -than 'had appeared in the American papers ? The second point was , whether the Noble Lord _ would favour the House with a statement of tire situation in wlu ' ch- Mr . Fox , her Majesty ' s minister at Washington , was now placed towards the ( ioverument of tlve United States ?

      LordPALM ERSTON « id that -with regard to the Caroline , no official ' accounts bad been received at the Colonial Office , and nothing on tlie subject was known except wlmhud appeared in the American papers . He could answer the question with relation ' -jo Mr . Fo . \ . as despatches-had been received from him in the course of the day . These , despatches were dated the £ th January . Mr . Fox on the 2 nd of'January had . received a . letter from Sir Francii Head , si .-vting what had taken place with regard to Navy island , nnd the occupation of that place bv . a bod y of persons armed : uid equii > ped within the territory ( . f the United States , and assisted by American citizen ^ . Mr . Fox , therefore , commtinicated these ' tncti to Mr . Forsydi . the Secretary of

      State in the United States , and received in reply a ' frieuttly communication in the first instance verbally , containing - an expre .-aipn of sentiments such as might be . expecto ! from the friendly spirit of the . 'Uniter ! S : nres ( lovernment towards this country , and the bi ^ b sense of liouour hy - wnich that conntry lias been actuated in its dealings with ' f . weiirn countries . ( Hear , hear , and cheers . ) . On the 5 th instant lw had received 71 note , in which Mr . . Forsytli . -. issued Mr . Fox tliat all the constitutional powers vested in the executive would be exercised to mviiiitnin tlie laws : and that they would always be disposed to fulfil the obligations of theV United States government to all nations , whether engaged iu foi-ei ^ n or domestic wars . / Hear , hear . ) In

      addition to the assurance that all powers now vested in the central government should be put into force , for the purpose of prnventing aggression , the President on f be 5 th sent down a message to the Congress , stating to it that the law as it stood was irisnfficient to enable the government to prevent such , proceedings , and asking Congress to give the . executive further powers for that purpose . Upon that communication a discussion took place in the Congress jnwhirJrinaiiy of the lending : men took partf aij ^ in which all persons who spoke expressed sentiments -of . the ; most friendly description towards 'this country . ( Cheers . ) They also stated that it was their strong wish that the laws should be enforced and . if the laws , as they at present existed -were not

      sufficient ,, stronger powers ought to be < nveh ( Loud cheering . ) Nothing could be more satisfactory than . were the communicitions that had taken place between her Majesty ' s Government and that of the I luted States .: He thought tliat the House might confidently trust—although there might have been on both sides acts committed not consistent with the laws , and in violation of the treaties that ' existedconsidering the unanimity that bad existed between the two countries—that nothing had taken place to interrupt the friendly relations which existed between this country andthe United States . . Lord J . RUSSELL said that the Hon . Gentler

      man opposite hud asked hini a question with Respect to the steam vessel that liad been reported -to , h ^ ye been burnt in Canada . In answer to that question he begged to say that her Majesty ' s : Govertimerit had received iio cdininunication with respect to that transaction ; it " was . impossible , therefote , to give the Hon . Member an answer \ 6 his question uu til some communication had been received on the subject . A despatch had been received from Sr Francis Bl Head , dated on tne 28 th of December , and there was also another from Sir John Col borrie of the 2 nd of . 1 anuary , which , stated that all future operations with , respect to Navy Island were to be

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      carried . " op' tinder iiis ( Sir Johy ' Coiborne ' s ) direcfifn ; QOheeK . ) \ ' ;¦/ ::- ' . ' ?/ -- -:--:-- ' J ' ^ T ^ .- , Mr .. ¦ JELtfMPT-RE ' ' wished to- aik the Uadpp Secretary of State for the : Colonies , whether it was proposed to grant a charter it , ihe ^ New Zeal and Association , for the purpose of enabling tkem to establish a colony there ? - - / - : / . / Sir- G > GREYsaid that an application fer a charter had been made , and riegociatibris had : token plaop upon thesubject , which were still pending .- " ' ^ Mr . ; GLADSTONE fished to know whether the Under Secretary of State for the Colonies would have any objection to the production of ^ the correspondence 1 between Sir J . Colborne and Col . Eden ; as that correspondence was not in the paper now on the table '' of the House ? : , '

      Sir Gi GREY said that the correspondence : to which the Hon . Member had adverted wais nottransiriitted in the despatch / from Lord Gosford . The whole of the correspondence contained in that despilch had been laid on the table . Upon an applicatipH , however . to the Horse Guards , it was ;¦ discovered that the corrfesponderice / having heeti between mili tary officers it nad been sent to the War-office , and he was informed that the production of such corresponderice was contrary to practice .: Otherwise , the Government had no objection to its production . Mr . MACLEAN begged to isk the Noble Secretary for Foreign Affairs whether he had anv answer

      to give respecting the petition which had been presented , prajring for the interference of Government relative to : EngUshnien no > y imprisoned in Po cugal . Lord PALM ERSTON said that imme ^ ately on receiving the petitiori he sent it ont . to- 'I . y ' rd .-Hbward deWalden , instnict ] rhg him to inqnA « into the ^ circumstances connected with it , We had received th » Noble Lordls answer , andhe "tended to lay it upon the table ^ along with . ¦ otherj >* pers " . cdrinected .-with the affairs of that country , tie had no doubt that the contents of that pav ^ r would be perfectly satisfactory to the Horn ; Gentleman . . ¦ / The Quarter Sessions ( Scotland ) Bill passed through a committee .. .

      The K ° nse went into a Committee on the ShenfTs Com is ( Scotland ) Bill . / / Clauses \ to 15 weie agreeeft \ o . On the 15 th claus * being proposed ,: ^ Mr . PRINGLE moved that it be omitted . A division then took place . : r—For the clause 56 , against it , 24 , majority 32 . -: / /// -: ¦""¦' : // On clause 17 being proposed , . Mr . \ V . FORBES moved that . it / be omitted . For the clause 51 , against it 20 , niajbrity 31 . The other clauses were then agreed to , and the Hoiise resumed . , / v Lord J . RUSSELL moved the second reading of the Benefices Plurality Bill , Which / was read a second time , and ordered to be committed on the 19 th . v - ¦ ¦ '• ¦¦' •/ / .- ' ¦ ' ¦> : ¦ . : XKIU . ¦ - . - - . -.. / .. ¦"¦ :

      ; . Lord J . RUSSELL moved that the Irish Municipal Corporation Bill be read a second time ,: which ' was read , and the committee , named for Monday fortnight ' \ : . ; - . ¦ Mr . HUME moved the further consideration of tlie . report of the committee on election tees , the resolutions of whicli had been unanimously agreed to . - "¦ " - - . : ' The reporfc was agreed to . Mr . "iOUNG proposed the second reading of tl-e Ships Mortgage Bill but withdrew it after somt discussion . . . ' On the motion of Mr . LUCAS the - - 'ConacreXIre ^ land ) Bill vrasT ^ ad a wcond time . Outhe motiouof Mr . HUME , a copy ¦ was-prdere d of ' immemorial addressed by 300 merchants of Lpndon to the Treasury , respecting alterations in the jjublic : ition of the Price Current Lists ,. Adjourned ac twelve . .

      HOUSE OF COMMONS . MONDAY , Eebruarto . The SPEAKER took the chair at four o ' clock . Lord Albert Co . xyxgham took the oaths and his seat . . ¦ ¦' ' . ¦ ¦ ¦' . "' . ' ¦' : ¦[ - ¦ ' ¦' ; ' . ' ' . The Sheriffs of the City of London appeared at the biir to present two petitions from the Lord Mayor , Aldermen , and Common Councilmen .. Sir GEORGE STRICKLAND presented a petition from Bnrhsley , iii the County of York , against the Small Debits Courts Bill . Mr . WALLACE presented two petitions from the Chamber of Commerce in Edinburgh on the subject of Post-office reform , arid moved that " -they be printed with the votes for Thursday next . Motion njf reed to . ' % . Mr . STEV \ ART presented a petition against tlie Poor Law Bill for Ireland . . Lord A . CONYNGHAM presented a petition from the City of ¦ ¦ . Canterbury for Vote by . Ballot and the extension of the Suffrage . . ' . . -..- . .-fr

      Mr . PEASE presented petitions ^ om Darlinston , Frome , arid some places in . tlie . County of Durham ^ numerously signed , against the negTp apprenticeship clause , ' - ¦ -. " . : . ' -I---,,. An HON . MEMBER presented a petition from Mr . Parkins , n , manufacturer in Moorg-ate , London , compinining of an infringement of a , patent gr-ai ' iredtonim , and praying that the law of patents be amended . . Sir G . STRieKLAND presented two petitions from Borojighbridgft , and Dent , in the County of York , against the negro apprenticeslup . clause . : : Mr . A . WiliTE presented a petition from Sundfrluud , having the sam « pravef . .

      GLASGO 1 V COTTON SPIXNERS . Mr . "WAKLEY presented a petition froin Huddersfield , signed bv 2 , 2 » i persons praying the House to allow Counsel to be heard at the bar in the case of the Glasgow Cotton Spinners , / no \ v under sentence of transporhition : ; also a petition from Paisley , agreed to and numerously signed at a public meeting , praying the House to adopt an address to her Majesty for a commutation of the ' sentence , p assed on the Glasgow Cotton Spinners ; also petitions from a society , of •¦ operative . ; carpenters ,, and from the parishes of Slioreditcli afid gpitalrields . s London ,-on the same subject . Also , a petition from the Society of Cotton . Spinners at Glasgow ^ signed by 990 persons , on this subject , arid praying : the House to appoint , a- committee to

      inquire into : the . construction of their association , rind the practice .- ? they support . The petitioners said that they did not dread an inquiry , and wished it ,, if made , " ^ 0 be ?? s searching and extensive as possible . And , lastly , a petition from asociety of operative carpenters and joiners in London tor a similar inquiry into this a . vsociation , Mr . BAIZES presented a petition , ag . ' - . ins . t the negro apprenticeship clause . ¦ An HON . JMEMBER presented a pelitiou com ; plaining of the defective state of iiational educntioii in' this country , and praying the' House to enter- ' tain the bill brOiightin by " Lord Brougham . ¦ Sir . ' . Ri INGLIS presented ; -a- petition from the Rector and Churchwardens of some parish in the county of--Stafford against the suppression of tlie Bislioprick of Sodor and Man .

      Lord SANDON presented a petition from Ae Rector and Churchwardens of a parish in Liverpool , against the bill for rating srnall tenements , by whicli landlords wouldbe made liable . Mr . E . BULLER presented apetition against tlie negro apprenticeship clause . Mr . HUM K presented petitions from the ^ inhabitants of the County ; of : ' - 'Middlesex , and" / from Tiverton iri : the County of Devon , for Vote by Ballot , : ' and' also others praying for an extended system of national education . . Lord EBRINGTON presented a petition from the Board of Guardians of the Roehampton Union ( signed by the chairman ^ , against any alteration in the principle of the New . Poor Law Act ;

      Mr . RICE _ gave notice , that he would ^ to-morrow ( we believe ) move . for leave to bring in a bill to amend , in some respects , the lair relating to J oint-stopk Banks , in consequence -.. of ' ¦ '¦ the decision lately pronounced iri the Court of'Exchequer . ' - ' Mr . HUME inquired ; whether the Goveniriient intended to reriew the coipmittee , or tnlce any merasures with respect to theBanik of England ? Mr . RICE said , that in the . course of next week he should propose , the reappointrii . ent of the committee on Joint-stock Banks . / : Mr . HUME . —Will it be open for the committee

      to inquire into the cpnduqt of the Bank of-Engr laud during the last ei g hteen . -month ' s ¦? , -Mr . RICErsaid that it ' certainly was not his , fc tejition to propose any question before that commit . tee the tendericy" of ¦ whi ch worild W to alter tlie arrangemeutsde'Ubera'telytoteretl into between that XHouse and the . Bank 6 £ England ; at the same , time he thought it would-. -be impossible for the committee to consider / the state of banki 11 generally throughout the country , without talaDg into- account a certain portion of the proceedinga of the Bank of Eriglaria , as corinected with Mf ? circulation of the country .: ' / . ;"'

      Mr . HUMErsaid it was not his iriteritioti to pn > - pose any alteration' in the agreement made w 1 ^ the Bank of England , but he wished' to know ho * that , agreement was to ,-be carried out . He should therefore move , whenever the proposed ci iinrnittee should be , appointed , tiiat the inquiry should be extended into the conduct of the fiunk of Eng laflo . He "' also' wanted to know what was to be done ynpt . the Bank of Ireland , as the expiration of its charter was fast approaching ? ' / Mr RICE ^ proposed to jvoceed with ; the inquiry dn / Joint-stock Banks before / any measrires sIimm be taken , with . regard to the Baaik oi Ireland ..- . ' . ...

      . Mr ; FTUME said , that ; observing / by i the puouc prints that Mf ; Priinrose nad been apppiriteu . ; to a situation in the Pos £ OnTce-inEdinbuig ^ which ne undefstoiod was-a perfect siiiecure , Ue wished to ) aioy tfhzther : thpt-flpppjntttieii t had in kvn -pluce f Mr . RjCEknewnothiiig of the appointinent . _ ¦ :- Kr ^ 'CQ ^ NELL ;» reiented two petitions fron > IrelM ^ against ^ tie ; jVIiiiiste ^ ial plan of ; . Irish Poor SirfetntiviOT aiked ifh ^ i tie Noble kord ( J ; 'R ' us §! ll ) iritended to comprehend in his meastrre r ; ektir ig to the prftcee ^ inga of Quarter sessions tne administration of the 1 finances : LordJ . RUSSELL said he was not able to . answer that question at present . When the bill saoma

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  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 10, 1838, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct340/page/6/