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    • THE NORTHERN STAR SATURDAY. SEPTEMBER 18. 1841.
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      ro THE ilANrFACTUREKS AXD PUBLIC OF THE STAFFORDSHIRE POTTERIES . Gestlexex xkd Fe . iem > s . —An unpleasant differece * having arisen between Mr . Wm . Davenport and that portion of his workmen espied gilders ; tlie length of time which has elapsed auee iis coaxaencement , "which is hq-w about ten -weeks -, the improbability of an immediate settlement , together ¦ with the calumnies and misrepresentatiaiis -which are afloat in society respecting this difference , induce us , the operative painters &o £ gilders , to lay before 70 a a correct statement of the whele proceedings , -with a Tiew of vindieating the conduct of the men , and of doing justice to all parties concerned . To bring this unhappy difference to a speedy and > T 7 pff * M » conclusion , has been tfie principle object ol the operative painters and girders . Every concession ( abort of an entire abandonment of principle ) which re * s » n could suggest , or the most rigid justice demand , hag been conceded ; but , we are sorry to say . without

      • access . When it wai intuaated that the prices of the pattens , which have been the cause of this unpleasant affair , should be amended ; but tut ; ilr . Wm . DaTenport , from the state of trade , could not employ the whole of his old hands again , the proposal "was immediately agreed to , from the conviction ttiat it -was not for us to dictate the number of hands that should be tsnploytd , but merely to expostulate as to the price at which ire should dispose of our labour , and ibis , geatlypien sad Meads , is all that has been exercised from the commencement of t * ' « unfortunate struggle . It vat , then , with surprise that we learned , after we had Bosinated one T »* w of the men to go in on the amended prices , sad had come to the resolution to sappart the other half , until such time as they & 2 nuld have procured new sitoaUons , that Mr . Wm . Bavenport -would not be dictated to , but that those who fi shed to be * y j" employed by h ' must tome individually , ssd Vh vn their gl »? nm should be consider&J .

      Far be it from ns to dictate to Mr . Wm . DaTenport , tt as / other Tr"W 7 T'fy ^~ ? ' ' j jhe nunb&r of iumds that he , or any other gentleman , shall be compelled to receive into his employ , or otherwise to meddle in the iTifrq-nai policy of hi * , or any other manufactory , so long as that policy does not encroach on the acknowledged rights of labour . Far also be it from us , when thcie rights -are enaaaehed upon , to sit UmeJy down , and wunsss the Tidation of claims which the' laws of God and of civil SDptrtT" call upon us to flyffnfl . Labour is the commomj > # irmtarbi aUevtdtht * bb , * i tin Mb c

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      which the 'working millions earn those necessaries that supply the physical wants of their natvre . The disposal of that labour is as free In their hands u the productions of it are in the hands ; of any manufacturer or merchant in the empire ; and if it should be sought by any individual to depress the price of it below a reasonable , or living standard , the owners are called upon , by every principle of kot&I and natural right , to defend it to the uttermost of tbeir power . But how much stronger is the call on the operative painters and gilders of the Potteries , when the extreme reduction in the price of labour , which has been attempted at Mr . Wm . DaTenport ' s manufactory , did not , we believe , originate in any desire of that gentleman himself ; bnt , on the contrary , in as underling , whose only motires for such base attempts must hare Been the aggrandisement of his own truckling self , and to whom the Bt * rifl « ng of that el&at from whence he sprung , and to which he now belongs , forma but a small item in his code of moral subserviency .

      Let it not be supposed that we make this statement out of any desire to propitiate the favour of Mr . Wm . Darenport , or to call down an undue portion of public disapprobation on the head of one whose every action , as far as the regulating of the price of labour is concerned , is a libel on common justice and common humanity ; for , be it remembered , up to the time of the installation of this sycophant , the prices of Mr . Wm . DaTenport ' s patterns were such that no reasonable man could complain of : the painters and gilders , therefore , feel called upon , in justice to Mr . Wm . Davenport , and

      to the men late in his employ , respectfully to request that the former will condescend to examine for himself the original patterns against which his men have expostulated ; and if it should be found , on mature consideration , that the men had not a just reason to complain ; that they exaggerated , in the slightest degree , to their fellow-workmen , or haTe attached undue blame to any single individual under bis employ , the painters and gilders will undertake to brand those men as the Teriest Blunderers that ever disgraced the face of humanity , or imposed on the credulity of a generous trade .

      The operatiTe painters and gilders take also the present opportunity to state that , in facilitating au amicable adjustment ef this unhappy affidr , tbey are actuated by no motive or principle detrimental to the interests of their employers . They look npoa the potting business as being differently situated to most of the staple trades of this country . They believe that foreign competition—that bane to . the the prosperity of the cotton and woellen districts—exercises little or no influence on the prices of the manufactured goods ef this neighbourhood ; and that a judicious arrangement amongst the manufacturers for the purpose of regulating the prices of their goods , would secure to themselves a reasonable return for the capital invested in their several establishments , and procure for those under their employ , " a fair day's wages for a fair day ' s work , " which , gentlemen and friends , is all that they now require , and which , it is to be hoped , common sense , common humanity , and one common interest will hasten to supply .

      Thus far , with a single exception , has our task been an easy one ; thus far would we be content to go if justice did not imperatively demand the exposure of Tillany— -rillany which , for the sake of « ur class , we would otherwise bury in eternal oblivion . 'Tis a crime to take from the superfluous wealth of another ; 'tis a greater to take from those that have little to spare ; but how much greater is that crime which takes from those that haTe none the very means of obtaining any . Working men of the Potteries , blush for jour order —blush for those that haTe no shame , no principle , no

      feeling—saTe for themselves—for such are to be found amongst you . Yes , when a few honest hearts , than wh » m , for integrity of purpose , or skill as workmen , few better can fee found ' . When these men had the independence to expostulate with their employer relative to the price of their labour , and had incurred their discharge from that expostulation , five creatures were to be feund bearing the Bemblance , but lacking all the enabling qualities of humanity , who were so far lost to every principle of moral right as to enter on the places of their more honourable fellow- workmen .

      We denounce these men as unworthy the countenance of every good man , as renegades to tbeir class , as void of every sentiment that should elevate a virtuous heart , and as fit objects for the detestation and abhorrence of every honest working man . In conclusion , we beg to state , that , at the commencement of this unfortunate struggle , we pledged ourselves to support , as far as our limited means would permit , the individuals who have unwittingly been the cause of this unhappy dispute ; for , be it remembered , thay were placed in their present position , not by an effort of their own free will or choice , bat , on the contrary , by force .

      We reiterate that pledge ; and call upon all who haTe the welfare of tbeir trade at heart—who are alive to the least spark of sympathy for those who haTe suffered , and are still suffering , in its defence , to come forward with their mite , to the end that truth , justice , and the general good , may triumph over falsehood , tyranny , and truckling self-aggrandisement . We remain , Gentlemen and Friends , Your obedient humble servants , THX OPERATIVE P . U 3 TEES A . XD GlLDEBS . Committee Boom , Sea Lion , Hanley , Sept . 14 , 1841 .

      The Northern Star Saturday. September 18. 1841.

      THE NORTHERN STAR SATURDAY . SEPTEMBER 18 . 1841 .

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      " Thb Chabtists hate proved themselves more accurate caxcclatobs than thb k 1 d 9 ls classes . Whether their j so ^ trum would hate mended matters 18 not sow the question } brt the result has sbewx that thet were correct in their opinion—that in the present state op the representation , it was vain to think op a repeal op the corn monopoly . ****** * Political power in this cottntrt , though it hesjdes in a comparatively small class , can only be exercised by the sufperakce of the masses . "Morning Chronicle ( organ of the Whig Ministers J , Friday . July 16 th , 1841 .

      HORRIBLE DESTITUTION AT STOCKPORT . SYMPATHY OF THE MIDDLE CLASSES . We claim the attention of all our readers to the following letter from our Stockport correspondent , received last week , and shut ont by an accident from our last number . We claim especially for this document , the attention of all those who are vront to eulogise the " good feeling of the middle classes , " and recommend that the middle classes be conciti&ted , and a vsiox with them effected . Before a word of comment , let them first read tha letter , from one on whose veracity and impartial judgment ¦ we place the utmost reliance : —

      " This town is one scene of poverty , misery , distress , and uiscontment . Hundreds are walking the streets , destitute of food , who rise in a morning without knowing where they shall get a meal betwixt then and night . The handa belonging to two very large firms are turned cut and piquets are placed by the spinners to watch the mills , to see if the masters procure " nobstieks" to take the situations of those turned ont at the reduced price . The workpeople have placarded the town , shewing tbeir grievances and exposing , in a masterly manner , the conduct of their masters . There are thousands who have pledged and sold every vesiige of clothing to purchase food to liTe upon , whilst others are selling their furniture , and going to America . Starvation and misery

      was neTer more prevalent in the memory of the oldest inhabitant . One large mill , which employed a thousand people , is stopped altogether , and no signs of it starting again . The weavers of another mill turned out on Saturday ; but such was the eagerness of those who had walked the streets so long to get work , that their places were fiiied np by Tuesday morning . Never was tyranny and injustice and brazen-faced villany , cruelty , bard-heartednesa , and brutality , more glaringly exemplified , than it has been by the British cotton lords this week ; Euch is their sympathy

      towards their unfortunate workpeople who are literally starving to death , that when taey approach -hem for the purpose of Te&soning with Vhemthey laugh like a host of laughing hyenas . Ons of these kind-hearted wretches—isave the mark)—in the shape of a man , but without any of his attributes except the ferocious and savage portion , had the unblushing effrontery to tell one of kls spinners , who has hands as hard as my desk on which I write , that in order to make up for the reduction , he would find his wife and children work if he would send them . Another bid

      the impudence to tell one of his spinners that the last tenant he had in one of his small houses had left £ l 16 ? . owing for rent , and the next pereen who engaged should psy that rent whether he had the house or not , besides being reduced as jnnch as 12 s . from the original price . Another master told one of his spinners , who merely wiBhed to change wheels , that he should do bo on condition that he would pay las . fer the rent unpaid by the last spinner . These , and many others , are the tricks of the Com Law repealing cotton lords , who are

      the pillars of the Tarious religious places of worship ; the Bons of -whom are keeping any quantity of women of loose Tirtue , hunting horses , and dogs who live ten degrees better than their workpeople . Such are the bad circumstances of one master who was first in offering reduction , that he has had & span new carriage brought him this week , and a rein come with it from London to show him bow to get in and oat of it Every body I meet in the street cries * hame of the masters , and declare that nothing is so likely to bring on a pestilence as hunger , wretchedness , and destitution , "

      We ask , and we ask sincerely , how long are these things 0 continue ! How long Trill it be ere the people will make common cause together , and tell their fnhnman blood-suckers that their tyranny and oppression shall proceed no further . These are Ike B « ft who pwttfl . 4 to , ogaaiBeraw tke diftrtfises

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      of the poor , who raise the cry of " cheap bread , " and who complain that the Corn Laws are reducing them to the verge of ruin . Yet , though they cannot pay a moderately fair price to the labourer , they can keep their strumpets , dogs , and hnntere , in unlimited proportion , and can sport their new carriages as if to mook the misery they had caused . We hope that Committees will be appointed to collect and receive subscriptions on behalf of the starring thousands which now throng the streets of

      Stockport , and we trust that meetings will be held without delay in etery town and Tillage in furtherance of that object . Especially we implore the various Chartist lecturers to devote their energies to it . Let the Chartist preachers lecture themselves . They have been put out of the pale of the church by the Scribes and Pharisees lately assembled at Manchester ; let them and their flocks prove their title to be considered Christians , by the exhibition of that ChriBtian spirit which will feed the hungry and clothe the naked . Let the words of the Saviour

      be on this occasion not only remembered , but acted upon , ' Ye have the poor always with you , " and "it is more blessed to give than to receive . " Since the Bbove was written , we have received several other equally melancholy relations . We give one of them : — " Great privation , misery , destitution , hunger , and-discontent exist in Stockport ; it is computed that five thousand are out of employment , and walking the streets , many of whom hare sold both clothing and furniture to support nature , while others are selling off and emigrating to America and

      Australia . In consequence of the unfavourable circumstances into which two honest men have been plunged , through being out of employment , driven to despair , and seeing no hope of recovery , no cheering prospect before them , we are sorry to fay , from strict inquiries into each case , that they have committed suicide , in order to relieve their distracted minds . A man about twenty-eight years of age , clean and decent , came to the door of the writer of this on Monday morning , and appeared much abashed . In a short time , he mustered courage , while the big tears ran copiously down his face , to

      say that was the first time , and the first door which he had approached , for the purpose of begging ; he was sorry to do so , but it was out of dire necessity He had a child in his arms , and another by his side , four more at home . There seemed to be an inward , honest pride , which spoke volumes to an observerjhe appeared heart-broken , and his face flushed , as his eve caught that of his donor . On being questioned , he said he was an overlooker for Mr . Bradshaw , at a place not 300 yards from where he then stood , and had tried all the places he could for employment , but without success . This is the condition of a hard-working factory slave . In a short

      time after , six young men , respectably dressed , had bundled up their linen , and were starting on a journey of begging on their way to Birmingham . Shops are empty ; provision dealers and drapers are idle ; pawn-shops and furniture-brokers are crammed ; benefit-societies are suffering ; religious institutions can scarcely be kept up ; poor-houses are filled ; many factories are stopped ; thousands are in a state of starvation ; wages are lowering ; winter is approaching ; and the people are walking the streets with pale visages , sullen countenances , depressed spirits , and aching hearts . There are not two pinions as to tha distress , though parties disagree as to the change required . "

      It u impossible to read these heart-rending details and not feel that" the beginning of the end" is come When beings , wearing the form of men , can thus openly mock the misery which their infernal system has created humanity becomes impatient of forbearance , and the arm of resolution is more firmly nerved . We cannot hear of such things and not , in our very heart of hearts , applaud the manly bearing of a people which can bear such

      sufferings—knowing too their source and origin—with dignified continuance in the narrow pathway chalked for them by the laws which they have had no power in creating ; by whose operation , as a whole , all these evils have oome on them , and which , by their superior intelligence and virtue , they will yet convert into the means of accomplishing their own enfranchisement from the foul thraldom in which labour is held down by its ungrateful bastard , capital .

      Yet this is the people whom the scoundrels affect to fear investing with the Suffrage lest property should be unsafe ! " Pitiful drivellers ! Do you dare to trust your property within arms-length of those by whom it has been made , when hunger , nakedness , and death assail them , and do you affect to suppose that it will be less safe when they are in possession of that power to protect themselves which you now unjustly withhold from them !"

      There is not a man in the whole batch of plunderers who believes his own hideous cant of the " levelling" and " spoliating" disposition of the working people . They all know that their present property would be much pafer then than it is now ; but they know that the system of unrighteousness which gave it to them will be swept away ; and hence their horror of the Charter . Mouth , however , as they may about it , there is no alternative but one . The middle classes , if not yet convinced , will soon be so—it needs but a few more

      Stockports—that an obstinate adherence to the present state of things will merely jeopardise their property without prolonging for one day the continuance of the system . The alternative is surely before them ; a peaceful and undisturbed possession of what they now call their property , with just rights for all , and a fair recognition of the labourer ' s share in future , or the dire shock of frenzied over-trampled-patience , which , while it takes no less certain vengeance on the system , will probably be much less inclined to respect present and vested " rights " .

      This we have ever Been ; and this we have ever feared . We have been , and still are , the only true Conservatives— the only true friends to the middleclasses , in exhorting them to a cessation from their systematic effort 3 to pluck down ruin on their own heads ; and in our imploring of the peopie , while they bear manfully their wrongs , to fortify themselves continually with all moral means to bring about a change .

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      THE STOCKPORT SPINNERS AND SHOPKEEPERS . It should not be lost sight of that there are two distinct " orders" of middle class men in societythe manufacturers and merchants , and the shopkeepers . The direct and personal interests of the former class are , always , to hav « labour at the lowest possible rate , and they are , consequently , always found to bo , as a class , the most inveterate and consistent enemies to every liberal and honest principle of legislation . It is almost entirely from this class that the Wuig faction is made up . The shopkeepers

      approximate the working people much more closely . Their profits are for the most part drawn immediately from the pockets of " the workies , " any general destitution among the working people of a locality soon shows itself in the empty till aud lengthened visage of the shopkeeper . This is so unavoidable a consequence that we are amazed to find any shopkeeper so absurd and ignorant as not to make common cause with his best customers-We commend to the attention of the Stockport

      Shopkeepers especially the Address of the Spinners ' Committee , which will be found in another column . That address calls on them , fer reasons well assigned , : o support the Spinners through the present crisis against their heartless oppressors , the cotton lords . We call on them and all other shopkeepers , for the same reasons , to make common cans * with their brethren of the working classes generally , and lend all their aid to the enactment of the People's Charier , through the operation of which exists the only safe remedy for the infernal system which has brought things to the present pass , and will , if not a verted , cause them to be much worse .

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      THE " NEW MOVE" CHAMPION AND HIS "CHALLENGE . " Mb . limit ¦ Hbthebingtoh has challenged Mr Feabqos O'Connor to a discussion , and Mr . O'Connor has accepted the challenge . We regret for his own sake that Mr . Hethebinoton should have been so unwise . We hare not lost our recollection of the services of Mr . Hethebington to the good cause in years gone by ; and we regret much to find him now pursuing a course which must , to some extent , however small , damage the cause he professes still to advocate , and which cannot end otherwise than in confusion to himself .

      We regret not less that Mr . O'Connob should thus waste his time . Ho really has not an evening to spare for any such purpose as the gratifying of Mr . HsrHEBiNOTON's penchant for political annihilation . The challenge , with Mr . O'Connob ' s answer to and acceptance wf it , will be found in another column . We have read this challenge , and can really find no point for discussion in it . Mr . Hbthbrinqtok talks about " the merits of Mr . Lotett ' s Chartism , " and about " Fbargbs O'Connob ' s Chartism , " pretty much in the style of Mr .

      Daniel O'Connell . Wo are loth to believe Mr . Hethebington bo very ignorant as not to know that there is and can be but one kind of Chartism . Chartism is Chartism , whether advocated by Fsabgus O'Connor , Willuk Lotett , or Henby Hethebington . Its principles aTe contained in a certain document called the People ' s Charter . Those principles can alone bo recognised as Chartism . Whoever gives up anything from them , or contends for any less sum of justice , is no Chartist ; whoever goes for more than is contained in those principles , may or may not be a

      Chartist , according as the matters which he would superinduce may or may not clash with the operation of those principles . To talk then of " Mr . Lovett ' a Chartism" and "Feargus O'Connors ' s Chartism" is evidently a mere bandying of words to no honest purpose ; and proves to us quite sufficiently that the only possible object of the " challenger '' is to damage the ' eause of Chartism by raising a dust , under the cover of which the enemy may strike it . It was on this ground that we attacked in the first instance the originators of the " New Move . " It is hence we infer their dishonesty . All that they

      contend for in the way of intellectual progress is equally practicable in connection with the already established organisation as under any other circumstances ; it is impossible for two National Societies to subsist , without damage to the cause ; and hence it becomeaevident that the" NewMove " men were either actuated by personal ambition aud a thirsting after leaderships that they wished , by weakening the general force of the Chartist army , to give an advantage to the enemy ^ As long as there remained any probability at all of tha " New Move" becoming in any degree general , we ware willing to adopt the more

      charitable alternative ; but now that " it has been bo long dead that by this time it stinketh , " we cannot regard any attempt to resuscitate its carcase in any other light than that of a traitorous disposition to do harm to our glorious agitation . We believe the country generally , and London in particular , understand this subject so well that there is no power in these men to do harm if they are let alone . We think the most effectual damper for them to be just that sort of contempt which shews them that they are known , but neither feared nor trusted . For this reason wo have in this day ' s Star given insertion to a somewhat pompous document , signed by

      two " Savages , " a surgeon and some other parties , addressed to the originators of the " New Move , " and calling upon them " again to take the post of honour . " We hate no fear whatever for the cause from this . The people know , now , how to estimate men , to whom " the post of honour" is everything ; and who " would rather reign in bell than serve in heaven . " But all public notice taken of them invests them with an importance not their own , and gives room to the enemies of Chartism to point to our dissensions . We do wish , therefore , that O'Connob had allowed Mr . Chanticleer Hethebinuton to clap his wings and crow , without taking the trouble to erop them .

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      THE TRACES AND THE CHARTER . We trust every working man in Great Britain will learn by heart the clear , luminous , and ungainsayable speech of Mr . O'Connor to the London Trades . The principles on which the reasoning of that speech is founded are clear as daylight ; they cannot but be admitted by whatever unbiassed mind will study them . And they are capable of much greater practical extension than is given to them in the mere sketch to which our space limits us in reporting this inimitable speech . The very same process by which the steam monster raises

      competition and creates a surplusage of hands in all trades—the same infernal rapacity which robs the unprotected workman of his hire to provide the extravagant expences of mansions and carriages , an d parks and grounds , and splendid buildings and costly w s for cotton lords—throws thousands of dependants on the various expedients resorted to by the industrious classes to preserve themselves in some degree of comfort and independence . Thus trading rapacity creates , increases , aud multiplies poverty ; poverty creates and aggravates sickness and disease ; sickness and disease produce death ; aud these drain the funds of the various sick

      societies , the benevolent Orders , the Odd Fellows , and othor secret societies , the " Free Gifts , " the burial societies , &c . Thus , is every struggle of the poor man to avert destruction met and parried by class-legislation , which upholds the middle man in his petty plunder and the landed and monied capitalist in nts wholesale robbery . The savings of industry and temperance are swallowed up by fraud ; and the virtuous and the vicious , the industrious and the idle , the sober and the drunken , are immersed in one common whirlpool of destitution , from which there is 110 hope of escape bnt by the People ' s Charter .

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      We trust , then , that we shall see the noble example of the Metropolitan Trade * speedily followed through the whole country ; that there will not soon be one trade Bociety in the whole empire that does not lend its whole energies to this glorious objectthe attainment of a power by the whole people over the law which disposes of the produce of their labour . The Trades of London deserve , and should hare , the heartfelt thanks of their brethren in the provinces through the whole country . This is what we hava long wished to see . The mighty phalanx of the Trades and of the Benevolent Societies once turned with united energy to any object—that object is obtained .

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      AMERICA . THE BANK MONSTER STRANGLED . All honour to that beau ideal of a bravely honest man , President Tyler . The liberties of his country , threatened by one of the worst , because most . insidious , forms of despotism are safe in his keeping . The monster capital , ever grasping at the possession of absolute power , and suiting its sinuous and tortuous forms of advancement to the various peculiarities of time and circumstance , has met with a rebuff which sends it to its own place " in a hurry . " A Bank Bill had passed both " Houses" — in the Senate by a majority of one—by which the independence of the several states was de facto grossly violated , though a specious appearance of adherence to its forms , was kept up . The majority , secured by the dollar-mongers in both Houses , was doubtless

      regarded by them as a tower of strength , " but the worthy and patriotic President , in the following manly sentences , levels it with the dust : — '* The power of Congress to create a National Bank to operate per se over the Union , has been a question of dispute from the origin of our government . My own opinion has been uniformly proclaimed to be against the exercise of any sucn power by this government . On suitable occasions , during a periodof twenty-five years , the opinions thus entertained have been unreservedly expressed . I declared it in the legislature of my native State . In the House of Representatives of the United States it has

      been openly vindicated by me . In the Ssnate Chamber , in the presence and hearing of many who are at this time members of that body , it has been affiirmed and re-affirmed , in speeches and reports there made , and by votes there recorded . In popular assemblies I have unhesitatingly announced it ; and the last public declaration which 1 made , and that but a short time before the late Presidential election , I referred to my previously expressed opinions as being those then entertained by me . With a full knowledge of the opinions thus entertained , and conceded , I was elected by the people Vice President

      of the United States . By the occurrence of a contingency provided for by the constitution , and arising under an impressive dispensation of Providence , I succeeded to the Presidential office . Before entering upon the duties of that office , I took an oath that I would' preserve , protect , and defend the constitution of the United States . ' Entertaining the opinions alluded to , and having taken this oalh , the Senate and country will see that I could not give my sanction to a measure of the character described without surrendering all claim to the respect of honourable men—all confidence on the part of the people—all self-respeot—all regard for moral and religious obligations ; without an observance of

      which no government can be prosperous , and no people can be happy . It would be to commit a crime which I would not wilfully commit to gain any earthly reward , and which would justly subject me to the ridicule and scorn of all virtuous men . * * " I regard the bill ac asserting for Congress the right to incorporate a United StateB Bank , with power and right to establish offices of discount and deposit in the several states of this Union , with or without their consent , a principle to which I have already heretofore been opposed , and which can never obtain my sanction . And waving all other considerations growing out of its other provisions , I return it to the house in which it originated , with these my objections to its approval . "

      Thus ends the fierce struggle of capital for entire domination in America . The Washington Globe , organ of the late government , speaks truly of the veto as' a great deliverance from that fatal system of corruption , which could not fail to make dollars , and not votes , sovereign in the United states . '

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      Todmobden . —The meeting referred to was not reported in the Star , for ike simple reason , that rut report was sent to vt . We never knew of it until receiving our correspondent ' s letter . A Young Chabtist . —His poem , though " set to the best of his judgment , " will not do for publication The same remark applies to the *' Vtrs « & on receiving a portrait oj Lord Bj / rQi \ t "

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      6 . L . Eoclbs . —Hit letter tea * forwarded to Mr O'Connor . A Radical professes himself anxious for thesuccest ' of Chartism . We advise him ,- therefore , to lav aside his crotchets , and advocate that simple " reform of the Constitution" contended for in the Charter . Several portions of hit letter evince a good disposition , but a very slight acquaintance with the subjects on which he writes . Wk havb received two letters , from Perth , one signed J . M . C , and another bearing the si gna * tures of several persons at Ruthven print works . denying the statement of the ^ Manchester Char * listst that Mr . R . J . Richardson "shed crocodile tears" at a late soiree in that eitv . It does nnt

      appear from the letters whether the purpose of the writers be to deny the fact that Mr . Richardson did shed tears , or merely- to deny that his tears were of the " crocodile character . Thb Watson and Watkins Discussion . —We have received from Mr . H . D . Griffiths a letter in . reply to Mr . Arthur Dyson , in which that gentleman is reminded , that the arrangements for '• the discussion had been made by Mr . Waison by whom , he says , Mr . Watkins was actually dragged into the discussion , and that by those arrangements MrlHelherington had no ri ( , ht to speak ; that having acceded to the defence offered for him by his friend and counsel , Mr . Watson , it was not to be expected that the meeting would

      hear both the counsel and the client . We hava no desire to see these discussions prolonged : we think it impossible that any good to the came can result from them . If there be in the" new-move' * men that wanton spirit of mischief which is altributed to them by some , this eternal stirring of the porridge pot is the very thing to gratify it ; if there be not , it is unfair and cruel to keep them constantly before the public in a false position Upon the principle of the " new move " the country has long since spfken out ; its requiem has been sounded , —why disturb its manes—why not let it slumber peacefully in the " tomb of all the Capulets V Satisfied that the exhibition of these fierce bickerings does us much harm , we cannot

      consent to encourage them ; while we are , at the same time , determined that no opponent shall have cause to complain of injustice . Hence though we published Mr . Dyson ' s letter , Mr . Griffiths must excuse us continuing the discussion . The pith of his present communication is contained above , in addition to which we may state , that he defends the general character of the meeting against the description given of it by Mr . Dyson , and denounces the attempt of that gentleman and his brother chairman to deprive the meeting of its ¦ ' . " competency , " by declaring it "dissolved . " Of these things the London Chartists , who are most immediately interested , having betn present at the meeting , wilt be able to form

      their own judgment , and to decide on the amount of credence due to Mr . Dyson ' s statements . J . Smith , Plymouth . —We answered his questions in our last . G . E . B oggis . — We gave the report just as u >§ received it from our regular correspondent , whose instructions from us are , to send at all times faithful reports . We have no reason to think he he has not done so on this occasion . J . T ., Rochdalk . —Although the report with which he has furnished us might have been too late for last week , there was no rtecessity for his driving it till Thursday in this week before he sent it to us : we ought to have had it on Tuesday , when it all would have been inserted .

      " Stabs" to Cashel- —Mr . W . Russell , of Nottingham , is anxious to know if the people of Cashel have received a parcel of Stars / rom him . Ht does not say how the parcel teas directed . "Stars" to Ireland may be forwarded to Jeremiah McDonnell , at James O'Hea and Sons , 4 , Cook * street , Cork . A Constant Readek , Northampton , wishes to know the address of the Secretary to the United Journeymen Hatltr ' s Joint Stock Company , at Denton or Hyde . J . Peabcev . —Our circulation is higher now than , last Christmas . In London alone it has increased nearly one-fifth . We know nothing of Dr . Taylor ' s whereabout .

      Thos . Mackening , Mabket Weiohton . — We have no recollection of ever having received the letters to which he alludes . A Correspondent has sent us the following , and says that it is an infallible remedy for that painful affliction , the cholic , under its most severe attack . The mixture is 3 drachms of aether , and 1 drachm of the tincture of opium . Twenty-five drops for a woman ; and from thirty ~ five to forty for a man—to be taken in coarse sugar . Howden Chartists . —Write to John Campbell , secretary to the Executive , 18 , Adderley-street , Shaw ' s Brow , Salford . Carlisle . —Their report was reserved at half-past three on Thursday ; it will be given next week .

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      P . B . should have given his name , and the name of the agent that supplies him . T . Simmonds , Trvko . —Say who the agent was that sent the papers from London . A Wobking Man , Durham . —They were sent /• Messrs , France and Co . some time ago , and if not delivered , it is not our fault . The Committee for sending Stabs to Ireland will oblige by sending a few weekly to Peter M'Brophy , Loughrea . An Old Subscbibeb , Newport , shall have an an-. swer . WiGioN . —The Plates have been sent long ago . £ . i . d . FOB THB DEMONSTRATION AT" TOBK . From Colsnaughton . 050

      FOB THE EXECUTIVE , MANCHESTER . From Camberwell , per James Parker ... 0 8 4 fob j . b . o ' bbien . From » man with a hard hand and a sympathizing heart 0 10 _ G . Hail , of Wakefield , per J . Watkins , London ,. ... Oil FOB PRESS FOB J . B . O ' BBIEN . From Mansfield , being collections after Mr . Dean Taylor ' s lecture 0 9 S FOR PETER HOEY . From the Paddock Chartists 1 0

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      meeting ; our old friend , Mr . William Benbow being present , he addressed the meeting at great Jengtb , aha gave great satisfaction . An error was-made in your last number ; it was stated that our Monday night , meetings would be held on Thursday ; it should have been Tuesday . SURREY . —At the Council meeting , on Sunday last , Mr . Wheeler delivered an interesting lecture upon the evils of the present system , and the benefits that would ensue if the People ' s Charier was to become the law of the land . The lecturer was received with hearty applause . A vote of thanks was passed ., and the meeting adjourned till Sunday next , to meet at Mr . O'Brien ' a Academy , Hughes Fields , Deptford . The chair to be taken at four o ' clock , when ail the members of the Council residing in Surrey are requested to attend , a * busine&s of great importance will then be laid before the

      meeting . ST . PANCaAS .-The causa of the Charter progresses most gloriously iu this locality . Tower Hamlets . —At the meeting on Sunday night , a committee was appointed to conduct the O'Connor demonstration , the sum of 7 s . 2 d . w »« subscribed for the purpose . The females met on Mdnday night , ' when Is . 6 "d . was drawn from- the funds for the same purpose ; and a voluntary contribution , amounting to Is . 7 d ., was raised for the like

      . SCOTLAND . —Cbosshouse . —The principles of the Charter are rapidly spreading here ; a deputation from Kilmarnock has attended a public meeting , when an excellent address was delivered by Mr . Wm . Carruth . At the close of the meetiHg twelve members were enrolled . Since this occasion , several meetings have taken place , great enthusiasm has been manifested , and numbers hare joined the standard . MANCHESTER . —Agreeable to public announcement , a meeting was held in the Tib-streetroom , on Tuesday evening , convened to discuss the propriety of passing a vote of thanks to Mr .

      Sharman Crawford , M . P .. and the others who voted wita him , on behalf of the people in the House of Commons . Mr . Murry , an Irish Chartist , was called to the chair , and the following resolution was passed : — " That th « heartfelt thanks of this meeting are directed to Sharman Cr&vrford ^ Esq ., M . P . for HochdBle , and Thomas Duncombe , Esq ., and the glorious thirty-nine , for the manly and straightforward conduct in testing the feelings of the members of the Commons' House o [ Parliament , on those all-important principles that constitute the ground-work of the People ' s Charter . " An address to Sharman Crawford , Esq . was also adopted and the meeting broke up .

      JUSRTHYR TTDVXL . —At a meeting of the National Charter Association , it was unanimously resolved that a vote of thanks be given to Mr-Sharman Crawford for bis amendment upon the address , a » d also to those members who voted witfl him upo ; that occasion , and that the same be expressed ta Mr . Crawford , and published in t he Star , and also the strong disapprobation with which we have seen some of the would-be-thought friends < w the people refusing their support upon so important

      an occasion . ECCUSS . —Mr . Linney lectured at Eccles , on Monday evening laat , and such was the impression made that seventeen males and females joined at the conclusion , which , in the course of six weeks , will make lf » members . . They intend to provide a breakfast « t Messrs . O'Connor and O'Brien , en their entrance into Manchester . Persons wishing to be supplied wita ticketa must apply at No . ft , Whittle-street , on Sunday next

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      4 THE NORTHERN STAR . „ - ______ : : - - "

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      TO THE WORKING CLASSES OF ENGLAND A 2 JD SCOTLAND , AND MORE PARTICULARLY TO MY OLD FRIENDS IN MANCHESTER , LEEDS , SHEFFIELD , KEISHLEY , BOSTON , AND THE OTHER PRINCIPAL TOWNS OF LANCASHIRE AND YORKSHIRE . Mt deab FEJE 5 DS , —In consequence of renewed invitations- to attend the forthcoming : demonstrations , and of some dissatisfaction having been expressed by certain parties , at the resolve already published by me through the Star , I find myself obliged ehce more to show cause -whj I cannot , if I would , and why I would not , if I eonld , take part in the demonstrations . The result I shall then leave , my friends , to your candour , aad your generosity .

      In the first place , my health is extremely bad . My stomach has discharged nearly everything I ate daring the last tan days . I am vary , very weak ; indeed so weak , that I am sure I could not make myself heard fifteen yards from a hustings in the open sir , though I spoke at the top of my voice . In fact , I . am , at present , a fitter subject for a tap-room in some country hospital , having a good look oat into the green fields , than for anything else . Now , I leave yon to judge , my friends , -whether such a man be fit to undergo tie fatiguing noise , bostle , and excitement of a series of demonstrations all over the country ? Your candour , to say nothing of year humanity , will , I am sure , say , fie is not fit

      In the second place , my private circumstances are such as to preclude the possibility of my attending the projected demonstrations unless I travelled and lived at the public expense . To that I could not be 5 consenting party . I shall never consent to travel and live at the public expence , unless I can make Borne better return than the mere presence of a sick , useless man at a demonstx&tion . All the good that can be done , through the demonstrations , jcaa be so effectually done without me , as with me , by Mi . O'Connor , who will travel at his own expense . My presence at them could therefore serve no other purpose than the gratification of my own personal vanity , and for that worse than idle purpose , every city and town I entered should hive to pay a tax or subsidy . Now , I ask you , my friends , whether it would be right or seemly in me , to have the people taxed in this way on my account ? I leave this question u I did the other , to your own good sense aod candour .

      The only expence I can conscientiously consent to have the pnblie incur on my account is the expence of one petatjf for each person who may desire to hear lectures or addresses delivered by me within your walls . To that I can consent , for the one penny is absolutely necessary to cover both my own expences , and those for rent , lighting , placards , ttc—without the payment of which we can have no hall or place to meet in ; and also , because I think I can give a poor man the worth of his penny in the shape of solid inf ormatien , while , s > t f 3 w » same time , if thfl poor »»»*» thinV « difiexently , he seed not come at all , and so escape his share of the expence . This I take to be a just and reasonable view of the matter . I h&ve still strength enough to address small meetings within your walls . I could do some real good at such meetings , but none at all at ~ demonstrations . And the only sacrifice to be incurred by any tody is but mt paaty , and not even tint , unless at his own option .

      If I permitted demonstrations to be held on my account , I should cause the loss of a day ' s wages to every man ( not already ont of work ) besides the risk of losing his employment altogether , not to speak of the expense of bands , flags , banners , fee—which in some of our farmer demonstrations cost upwards of one tundxed guineas , and fer part of which expense several towns are still in debt . Now , the one peony covers all gxppniww , leaves nobody in debt , is paid only by those 'who can afford and choose to pay it , —and , above all , fcdngs nobody into trouble , from loss of wages and employment

      Need I say , Brother Chartists , that , if I could afford no man should pay even a penny to hear me ? Now , I say , that whenever I can get a > ^ n or building for nothing , and the means of travelling at my own expense , no man or woman shall ever be charged one farthing at any meeting convened to hear me ? Need I ay , in short , that my object in lecturing or delivering addresses to you is not to make money of you , but to do all the good I possibly can in the only way that mj enemies and persecutors have left it possible for me to do any good at all ? If yon have any doubts on this head , wait till we meet , and then you shall know

      So far I have only shown cause why I cannot attend demonstiationi , if 1 -would . Let me now briefly explain why I would not if I could . Well , then , my friends , let me tell you frankly and at once , that I cannot consent to parade the country in jnock triumph , while my heart bleeds with the recol-Jec&on of my own wrongs , yet unredressed , —the wrongs cf hundreds ef my old political friends and Msodstes , who have been persecuted out of bouse and home since the commencement of the present move-Bent , and maoy of whom are now wandering exiles in Amer ica , Australia , and other distant lands . The wrongs of these good and true men , and the wrongs of the millions of our fellow-slaves they have-left behind are still unredreesed , and cry to heaven for vengeance ,

      In default of justice from the oppressor . Sy all that is sacred I can nave no heart or stomach for triumphant processions , or costly orations , while these wrongs are ssredressed and unreveaged . I find no bait with others who can triumph under such circumstances . I question not their motives , or the propriety of their acts , but I claim for myself the same right of free agency , which I eoneede to them and to every other bnman being . And in ri ght of that free agency , I frrr ^ im is the language of my heart—no triumphal entry or public rejoicings for me , while the country is in bex present tribulation and fetters , —millions of sons and

      daughters in rags and wretchedness , and myself a bankrupt in health and circD instances—through my hitherto froitiefis efforts to stem the torrent ol sppre&aiun or to raise ' a fallen people . No , no , let us firsv down both the oppressor and his sjsiem , and then for the orations ud the rejoicings , but no rejoicings fer me till I have first fcai a victory to rejoice ui . No idle pageants or mock triumphs for me to day , while my oppressor's hold Lhe power of sending me back to my dungeon to-morrow . No harvest ball for me while the erop is still on the ground exposed to rain and tempest-I am for first gathericgin the harvest—and then for the harvest ball and supper .

      After saying to much against demonstrations genettUy , you will wonder , perhaps , that I am about to make one exception . Yet such is the case . Bat I trust the special reasons which induce that exception , will satisfy you of its propriety . The exception iB Manchester ; and the following are my reasons for attending the procession aud demonstration in that town . 1 st 1 wish to show , Vj tie evidence of my attending one demonstration and that , no doubt , the . largest of them all ) that it is not from fear ox any other unworthy motive , bnt from zrii'tlp ' t and conscience only , that I decline demonstrations intended partly for my own noDfur anrl gratification .

      2 nd . Manchester is U ; e Uwn in which I delivered the speeches and sddressis for -whicb . I have suffered eighteen months' incarceration amongst felons on tbs criminal side of a coicrncn gaol , and I hold thst stn teEce to have been b * th tyrannical and unjust I wish to show the largest bo 4 y c : men that can be brougt ; together in ManeheEter , ct the 27 tb September , that 1 till bold fey ivcry sentence and letter of the speeches and addresses for winch I have undergone the urjmt sentence .

      I remain , my dear Friends , In the bonds of Cbartmn and Brotherhood , Yours , affectionately , J-iUSS B . O'BSIEX .

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      THE "NATIONAL VINDICATOR . " This Publication , under the editorial auspices of "Vincent and Phil ? , is the ablest fellow-worker in the cause of Chartism we now have . It has reached its fourteenth number , and goe 3 on well , though labouring under some disadvantage from the want of the stamp .

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      THE MOVEMENT . Elsewhere we give from our gallant little friend , the English Chartist Circular , a letter from O'Connob to the 4 < workies , " in which he recommends that the metropolis be made the seat of a represen tative body , as Manchester is that of the Executive body of the National Charter Association . We think the idea to be good , and earnestly recommend it to the country . We suppose that London and its environs can easily furnish a sufficient quota of good men and

      true who will gladly give a portion of their time to the work without burdening the already overburdened peopler ^ € ) r , if it be thought more advisable that men from the country should go up , let them then be paid sparingly , and made to work hard We can not afford to give much to individuals , with whole masses in the condition of Stockport . Above all , let the representatives be made to keep up a weekly correspondence with their constituents this will at once enhance their activity , and keep

      the spirit alive in the provinces . The latter portion of O'Connor ' s letter we would , if possible , engrave upon the palm of every " worky ' s" hand-throughout the whole country : — " Above all , and before all , my dear friends , pueserve union ! not only among yourselves , but among your leaders , making them pull together , or depart in peace ; for believe me , that our dissension is the one thing now relied upon by the faction , as their title to rule us by the sward . No man in his senses

      can doubt , but that we are oh the eve of some great change ; and no thoughtful man but must look with certainty for a union ef plunderers , before they will surrender what we seek for . To meet their union , we have no other means than the formation of as close a union , —rendered more powerful by our numbers . To this end then , let all , one and ail , struggle . " Let ' Union' bo our watchword , and " Liberty " out war ciy ; and lot our motto be " Onward , and we conquer ; backward , and tee fall . "

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      WHIG TACTICS . The war-ory of " no taxes" is again raised by the Whigs . The " Plague , " in its last agony , talks of forcing upon the Queen by popular clamour , an exercise of her prerogative , intended to coerce both Houses of Parliament , and compel the repeal of the Corn Laws . Don't they wish they may get it ? 1

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      We regret much that we cannot persuade our friends practically to observe the very clear and plain directions which we have so often given and repeated about the sending of matter for the Star . The axtent of our circulation obliges us to go to press en Thursday afcernoon ; and , therefore , our friends seem to think that if their communications reach us by Thursday morning it is quite soon enough . This is a great mistake . They should remember that every word of the paper has to be put together by single letters , and the whole space filled before we can go to press , and it is impossible to do this in one forenoon . Our men are busily employed in filling up the paper with matter which , from one source or other , we must supply during the whole

      week , and it seldom happens that more than one or two columns , besides the necessary space for editorial comment , remain to be filled on Thursday morning . This shews the importance and necessity of all matters of news , occurrences of the movement , reports of meetings , &c , being sent to us at once , immediately tbey occur . Instead of which , it often happens , that on Monday and Tuesday we have scarcely any letters , and on Wednesday comparatively few till the night post arrives . The consequence la , that those letters which do arrive in the early part of the week are carefully attended to and given generally at length ; while we are obliged to have recourse to the London papers , and various sources , for matter to rill the remaining portion

      of as many columns of the paper as must be set ap before Wednesday night . Wednesday night and Thursday morning ' s posts bring us a shoal of letters from all parts of the country ; these coma upon us just in the hurry of writing and attending to what are called tha leading articles ; while in the airly part of the week we have more time to attend to correspondence . The consequence is that one half of these letters are passed over entirely ; and the other half compressed into the smallest possible amount of space—and the next consequence is , that in the following week we have letters of complaint from various patties about their communications being treated with neglect Some whose letters or reports may have been omitted for

      want of space , refer occasionally to the police reports—the column of " varieties , " or some other portion of the contents of the 2 nd , 3 rd , 6 th , or 7 th pages of the paper , which are always set up first—and ask indignantly if their communication was less important than such or such a thing which appeared in the same paper from which it was excluded "for want of space" —others accuse ns of partiality and unfairness in cutting down their reports to a mere annoucement , while those of other towns are given at greater length . We have had many most angry letters of this description , the cause for which has rested entirely with the parties themselves . Now if our friends will but bear in mind that we are tilling up

      the paper every day ; that the same column cannot be filled twice over ; that we must give out such matter as we have just when thb hex Want it , or there would be no Star on Saturday , and that therefore we can't wait for the next post—we must go on ; if they would remember all this , and send their communications promptly —in the early part of the week—all would stand a fair and a good chance ; and if tbey would also remember that we have only one weekly paper for all England , Scotland , Ireland , and Wales , and that , therefore , no one place can be allowed to monopolies an unreasonable portion of the paper .

      we should have no complaints of inattention to any party—because we know there would be no ground for them . Our anxious desire is to make the Star a truly national organ , equally representing all ; but we cannot de this unless the ceuntry will aid as rightly in the sending of their matters of communication . The above remarks apply , of ceurse , to news , facts , meetings of the people , Chartist intelligence , fcc Original papers , letters to the Editor , personal correspondence , poetry , Ice , must be here at the beginning of the week , or we shall not bold ourselves bound even to notice them .

      Salford.—On Sunday Last, We Held Our Weekly

      SALFORD . —On Sunday last , we held our weekly

  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Sept. 18, 1841, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct721/page/4/