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THE JSORTHEBJT SmU , SATURDAY, DECEMBER 3, 1843.
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Mutton NOTTINGHAM—.An adjourned meeting oi Framework-knitters, was held at the Shoulder of
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10 THE COAL M 1 SEXS A ^ D THE PrBXIC GESEBaLLT . Pblixtw GorsxsTSES —My object in obtruding ilos letter upon toot Torce is , tbat it containa facts "Kith TTluch you ocabt toht- ae ^ nsinted . Ten are aT 5 T ; Te Ifcst the Coal Miners of t £ = 3 county have tmited them-BelveB with their brethren of Jfortluimberlfcnd , Darbam . CacibeilaM , YcilLsMre , S ^ tffeidBbiie , Cheshire , Derbyshire , Shropshire , Scotland , asd Wales , for the purpose cf cherieoius tie fcoars cf laocn ? , End getting an advance of -wsgss . . As * oon as the cgitaticn comineECfcd the Coal Kings sad their satellites get np a cry tdst the Miners Treie cbout to £ * riie for an advance cf "wage ? , and that they could not give more to their workpeople lritibont raking the price of cc-als in the market . They Jhtrtfore advanced the ctvsls about lOd . per ton , and made the pafclic believe that the -crorcicg ilinei ¦ Bas in tbe receipt of tee whole Ol the l-entfita rf EUch . advance .
In Mscc&este , if & person gets ir . to eonvtrot ' . on Trltb . a friaad , snd the * n > jeei tnrns cpon the Mint-ra * anoveaenfc , ihey invariably * ay—why , ibt C-al ilinera must now be in the receipt of good -wases , for coal has keen advanced s crest deai - and if ire z&k the reason , the answer is—O , the cea ) miceis have bad their TPBjes advanced , it is them trat get the benefit , and , peor things , tLey deserve it . But tie tmth roust be told , and ti 9 pntlic be uadeceiveii in this matter ; and I -Rill now give them a Teal ^ atmsni of the faeU u tfcty aie , & 5 d leave them to judge "who it is ttat is benefited by the advanced price of coal In ihe first place ths " coal kings" have advanced tie price at the pit ier-pe ce ptr ton ; or one hiifptnry ptr bandied weighs . Ont of this the Ccai iiistr 6 ets . and I fcave titan Sbs tiglieEt note of a ^ i ^ ance , tTropencetalfpSUTiJ . COCtegUHfcily \ be eoai pW / jarifcVcr is putting into ma pocktts KV = Epence-bdfptnny ptr tea , in adflifion to the profit that he was receiving Wore
tine . But this is not all ; tLere is another party steps in fix a £ ha , re before the c-a ^ l £ et 3 iato the hinds of ibe consumer , I zesan the retail coai merchani . This gentleman givts to the " coal kinss" itapeuce pt > r ton of an sdvance ; bat be advances coals to the consumer one peony per hundred -wei *^ ~ «•• f * " ! saa eLihi * * ~~ r J von . Tbs pnK-ic Juh see , by this , Who are the parties who are readying the benrats Mining from th » sdrascfti price c ! coSL T \ e are tola l > y one ©/ the in ^ irea pesmen : " That the labourer Shall be the first psrlaker of the frnits : " bnt is tins the case -with the psor coal Miner ? No , qu'te the reverse . The consumer pays ac adjition of one shilling and eightpence -oer ton for his coal , cut of -which the : poor siavs , -srfco " vestures his life in procnrins Qiem , ; ¦ gete tsr&pence-halfpEnny , tbe " coil kiDg" seTanpence- ] ialfptnny , and the xstiSl merchant tenpence I How j I mnst tnrn to the ilinera themseivea , and 5 ? arn them j of the . attempts about to be made to break ttp j their TTnioiL
Brettiren , the time fc ^ s come that all men any experience in the variens straggles tbat thB irorking elasses have had with their opprtssors knew would come . S * lo » 5 a 3 ycnr moTEmtnt-was poWtJlea , and yon irere csntent with f £ kivg abont year grievsneta , the masters took littl& notice cf you . Bat the moment your organlriticn began to look forniid * fcle and yen tegaa to act as -well as talk , them the ? began to piot and conspire boW tLty "weie to brtik yen tp and « ptead © enfasion in your lacia . ** To be forsvarned is to be foresrmed . " I tbertfore embiace this opportnxity of pnttiisf yea on y-. nr jmard , in crdex -that you jcay be prepared -Brhen ihey open their batterits upon Jon . I have by a sort tf necromancy or legtrdtiLaii ) got hold of the f ollcBit ^ pniitfad circnlar . a co ? 7 ot "whicH Has ix ^ c etnt to tveiy ccsi master in the cotLDty of Isncasttr : —
COPT . ) ** ' 5 ir , —At & very ! ar ? e meeting &f opmyve Ccai ilinare , holden on Muncay last , at Haselpove , which Tesulted is a demand of advanced w ^ ges eqasl to six shillings and npwards per day , jtnd s detennicszzon to get onJy a linited quantity of coals , to pr ^ duoe ; about tsro ahiliicga per day . ' These two circEmshincea united require the serioUB ' attention of the Coal Proprietors , sad demand from ' them a piompt , firm , and united course of proceeding . ¦ Aud I am instxneted hereby to itqaert the favour of ; your attendance st a general meeting , to be held on - Tuesday Best , tha SS ' Ji instant , at two o ' clock in tho ' f tTteniDOn , prompt , it iie ^ AiWon Hotel , Piccaonly , lismiiBStei , foi the purpose of taking the same inio i conadeiataon . i
" I am . Sir , . [ " Tour obedisat SBrvant , i " Maxcbsrter , Not . 23 , 1813 . " j There , Ifliners , what think you of that iptdsifen of Coal Sing fsisthooa ? Cm Jon longer doubt their detenninaiiDn to keep you in sl&vbry 7 Sorely not , : Bat before I gi further , 1 will fcit a second peep at , this menfIronsly lying document , and refute the false ) Statements it contains . j Tb » maetors yrho go \ up this seandaloQS and ljin ?' drcular knew that they were slandering ihe Coal iliners Of Xascasbire , wben they stated that at ih . B mefeiSng beld at HEZilgrove a detnud fci an afivatcs of wagee '
¦ was made eqsa ? , to sis BhCiingi per day . 2 f o such deter- mination "Ras come to st that meeting . The Goal | Kinera demand lour shUlingi per day , and thst fur dgit h&nrs * work ; which would enable th ^ m to earn lwtuJty t ^ mingii per week , as in mining operafionB ' Saturday and Monday only make a da ; bbtwixt them . And is twenty BhilliEjs per week : too ffuch for a man i 'who ventures his life in the bowela of the earth , in order to procure an article which contributes &o mate- Jaally to the comfort of hia fellow-men ? But it is not , the demand of 4 s . or 6 i per dsy thr . t the C ^ al Kings are afraid of . The fact is , the Miners have begun to ' : "Work as well as talk about the matter -. the ; have 1 Ehortsned their hours of latonr ; ana by so going they fciTe kept ti » production , if anything , lather btH-w i Xtia coasuiapSott ; and by this means She poor K-ngs" lave been obliged to part with iheii stecits te supply the wants of tbsir castomera This it is that has '
alarmed thcaa ^ they feave found out that yon have a power , and that you are beginning to know how to ose it . They dread tfee sbDrtuing of the hums of labour ten times ^ sore than any sruTacce of wa ^ es . One Of tilOBS fine fellows , that 1 tnotr , ^ as so ansfous lot his men to work , that if they werked eleven riajs per foitznghi he gave them threepence per dsytxera , and if twelve days , fivepence per day . Ona n ^ ruing an explesion took plsce , and one cf the men wss very 21 banicd . The men brousht ban out of rhe pi ; , and of ccures - "Forked none that day . f ^ r which thpy iost theii extras ; and the wretch hae the heartlessneKSJ & eay to bia men , CDUld yon not have thrcrwn inm on one side nnta yoa cad done your work and then bronrLt him up > Tijia ty 7 snt krew the value of overproduction He knew ihat if te could t-Ely get bis men , by anj means , to profince b "^ m s stock btJ-jre bsnd , that then be would have them under bis thumb , and he cculd du aa he liked with them .
Brethren , the time has arrived when yen must be yrompt , firm , and muled- The masters are determined io ixuxrrj yen to a crisis . They held their meeting tisia daj , in Ibe ATbion Inn > bui it was a class meeting . No getting to icow tLelr detenuicanua . &o tired spy , in the shape of a policeman , ia stnt to their meeting to watch the prccee-iirure . and demand a copy of sU , resoJcticns pztsgd . O , ro ! teis wca a meeting ef the masteis ! Having had to do with there gentry before , I think that I am acquainted with some vi their tactics ; and altlionsh I am neither a propfiet . nor the hoe ef one ,
2 venture to predict that tbsy trill encesvour to in--dnce a few collifcM to strike in various parts of th <; couEtry for some osnse or oth ° r . and by that means endeavour to brc = k you up with expuiee- 1 cave given you weiring ! l « ock ontJ Watebthem ; Toucsnuot poesiHy do better than ecntrnne to work short time : feeo ftie nurkets barely supplied , and you have a »» hnTwj » . in this is pour s-x&nszh and their ¦ we aiaaees . ^ c ere must be no more sneh j - > hs . aa the Gam >> e £ li = a one . Proceed with your o ? sisEiz * tif > r , as quick as possible , jjj ^ prepare for tho worst . JBs finn , be wber , and be ateatiy .
You may ask my advfca as to how yon Bra to act if the masters eboaid al ' -tniptlo f-jree you to a strike . I will gire it jeu in a f ? w "s ? orcs . You see what has been done in Gwsbaiand , aiul onght therefore to beware and not split npon the same ruck . If they iboHld detenaiue cpon Eiatirg the men ir > Taricus parts of the conntry s 5 gu aboaaaat-is tests , the men -wca ' . d wol » Kiy turn oat . ! r 3 u wool" jD 8 t se what they want ; and tJa Bjastsrs of such ccllLries would be proTirtsd by the other masters , both ** to the supplying of his customers with coal and protecting fclm from JDJcry by any lc ^ s otcasioBrd
^ atog n by his » orb ^ annfeg-By Uaa neass job mivbt naTe g or 1000 " r aen upon your bands in this ct-nnty , which would be veiy serious . 3 > eleafwonia be fsXsL Bere ig ffiy phaii and if the " Kings" bring it on , apon them be the bkme . If they attempt this , there must be no partial strikes . ' Tour watchword must be that of your Comisi brethrenj *« OBB A 3 D AtL . " New , then , follow bj > yOttr pre ! sent plan of keeping the jnarket bare ; &Dd if ths-y iionld attempt to coerce yon , stbjke at o > CE , OXk JLSD ALX , FROM THE lASD'S B . M ) TO JOHS
0 "&EOATS , ASD POITBTXES DAT 5 WILL SETTLE IRE QUESTI 05 11 I wiili to be distinctly un . ifeistwia in this matter . 1 am opposed to strikes , 5 f tbty csn be avoided . Bnt if the masters are b-ot-hes ^ ed enough t » drive you to the desperate alteinstive , tee cid will josSfy the nieacs ; and mzy God protect the stffcrirg poor from the cruelties of the opprescrs , is the easiest prayer a ! , ThB MJners' Filend , And Public ' s ob&lieai servant , WJi . DlXOM . Jdaaciieiler , Kcv . 29 fh , 1 S 43 .
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BRADFORD . —Mb . R . Oastlkr . —On Monday evening , the friends of Mr . OastJer , he . d a meeting in the Temperance Hall , according to the arrangements of the Oastler Liberation Central Committee . On the platform mreW . B . Ferrand , JEsq . . M . P . the Rev . Mr . Morgan , B . D ., Rev . J . L . Eiost , M . A . Rev . Mr . Sberwood , Rev . Mr . Cooper , Mr . William Walker , of the firm of Wood aad Walker , of Bradford , Tstham , E&qM of Hufldeiefield , Mr . T . Brook , Dewsbury ,. Mr . L . Pilkethly , Hnddersfield , i . Pollard , Esq , ( magistrate ) , Mr . Balme , Mr .. Milner , Mr- Auiy , of Bradford , Charles Walker , Es ^ and ma . iv other gsntlemen , lay and clerical . Mr William Walker was called to the chiir . Several
resolutions were unanimously adopted by the meeting with great applause . The substance of which are as follorrs : — " That a general subscription be raised amongst all grades of our countrymen and countrywomen , for the express purpose of procuring the liberation of Mr . Oasder , and enabling him t-o prosecute hiB philanthropic labours . " * ' That MoksellerB , and others , bo r < quested to receive subscriptions in aid of the liberation Fund ; and that they and all other persons wishful to forward the proposed object be requested to communicate their names and zwidress to Mr . Pitketbly , Baxton road , Huddersfield , who as secretary will furnish them with bookB for the purpose ; and persons employed in the various manufactories and workshops be
requested io assist io the accomplishment of ibis object . " At the - close of the meeting Beveral sums of moBPT -were pubscribed . Mr . Charles Walker , ^ 10 , many other gentlemen £ 5 and £ 1 each , Mr . Auty , £ \ for him ^ lf and £ 1 for bis wife j the WoolcombEr- iu the employ of Mu&brs . Wood and Walker , £ 2 2 s . 6 i . A vote of thanks was moved to the clergy , and carried unanimously . The thanks of the meeim ? were carried bv acclamation to the chairman . Three ehters were proposed for the " Good Old Kinji ; " and loudly responded to , by all parties , li anything ^ a 3 -nrauting to convin ce the oppressors of tlfe t > oor of the respect in which Mr . Oabtler is held in Bradford , this meeting must put to ftijjht all
doubts on thesubj- ct , aa Tories , Whigs , and Chartists , all joined with one accord to support the Liberation Fund , to the utmost extent of their power . The Poor Law ( or Bastile ) Bill was most ably exposed bj Mr . Auiy . The whole of the gentlemen on ths plaifoim etidreesed the meeting . Mr . Smyth and Mr . Jij « ld also spoke on behalf of the Factory Chilcrtu , and in support of the Liberation Fond . Subscription Books are now in the hands of a number o : workiug men ; and ii is hoped that ere Christmas is ushtred in , ibatMr . Oastlorwill be at liberty . The raeiory hands are noKy doiDg their duty on this occasion ; a spirit of emnlaiisn seems to pormdo-ali ranks , truly pi-ovin / j the nfll-ction the working-men invariably ieels for the friend of the oppressed : no matter what his political or religions creed may be .
Etxlsb ' s Machines . — The friends and believers in the pr-j . ctica . bI 5 H > - of Mr . Eizkr ' s Plan of Machinery for the regeneration of the world , and for superseding human labuur , met on Sunday last , at the Cross Keys , Wray-street , Bradford , when a number of persons enrolled their names and formed a society for the purpose of instituting a full enquiry into the above theory , with a view to its being put into praotice . The following resolutions were passed , namely , " That the members of this society are of opinion that Mr . Etzler ^ views are quite practicable ; and if men do not fairly examine , they ought not to judge rashly of them , ( nor throw obstacles in the way of oihers reducing them to practice , ) by the circulation of ibeir old and wornout notions of things . '' The members will meet every Sunday evening at six o ' clock , at the Cross L . eys , Wray-street . —John Dawson , Chairman ; John Greenwood , Secretary .
The Jsorthebjt Smu , Saturday, December 3, 1843.
THE JSORTHEBJT SmU , SATURDAY , DECEMBER 3 , 1843 .
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THE QUEEN AT . NOTTINGHAM . As our roost gj-acious Qaeen ib to arrive at the Nottingham Station on Monday next , on her way to the Duke of Rutland ' s ; and , as it is all important , that she should be put in possession of the real condition of her loving subjects , whe will not be allowed to occupy the platform , and are too poor to pay for a seat in the gallery , wo understand they have resolved upon welcoming her with a silent view of her working subjects : and that while they will abstain from any , theslightest mark of disrespectjthey truss that that knowledge which will not be
communicated to the Royal ear , will carry conviction to the Royal eye . The men will shew their wives and children upon the auspicious occasion ; and we have to rcqoest xhat her Majesty ' s managers will pray that her Majesty may be graciously pleased to put down the glass of the Royal carriage when passing the Town Common-side , in order that her Majesty may see and judge of the real condition of her loyal and lo-ring subjects , who trust that they will be blessed and Krau £ ed with something more than a view of the blind that Bhuts out poverty from Royal inspection .
We are not averse to her Majesty travelling where she pleases , and seeing what she pleases , * as long as we have not to pay for it . But while she travel * at our expense , we require to seo and be seen , to see , in order that we may have the worth of our money—and to be seen in order that her Majesty may know the Eource from whence her Exchequer is filled . On tnch occasions her Majesty may perhaps hear a cheer for her Ministers ; or what is more lik « Jy , the national band of well-tuned voices cbauntrng the National Anthem , * ' Spread the Charter through the land . "
SMALL CAUSES LEAD TO GREAT EVENTS . Wn ; is ibe destitution of the working classes of thia country should enlist the sympathy of the rich and the support of the press , we find that estate bestowing more space upon email matters wholly unconnected with ihe interest of the working clas- ^ s , and the daily joarnals content with a mere passing glance at D&tional poverty , or with the
publication of a ?? urances tbat general distress is a consequ nee of national vice and immorality . Meantime we learn that nearly every state in Europe is agitated to it 3 cectre , in consequence of the vbit of ihe Duke of EonnEArx to this country ; and , furthermore , in accounting for the distress now rsgiug in the stocking-making districts , we are grav-ly informed by the trade correspondent of the London press that it is a consequence of the Queen wearing long petticoats !
There is a story told of a Spanish Princes , once npon her travels , being presented with a specimen of gloTes-and silk stockings , in a town celebrated for ihu manufacture of those articles . The gloves were first presented , and vreie graciously received by her Minister ; hut hi 3 modesty , was so far put to the blush upon the presentation of the Ftockings » that he exclaimed with passionate vehemence , flinging them on the gronnd , ¦ * A Spanish Pkiscess has ko lfgs ! "' In their turn , the impoverished stockingT * . may exclaim , O for an English Qnean with legs ! " However the anecdote may servo as mait ^ r far laughteT , it must be a subject of dtep
regret io every sane man , to every thinking man , to every honest man , that the visit of the grandson oi a deposed tyrant , and the length of the Queen ' s peitieoa''S , shnuid lead to the anticipation of foreign convu ' sicn and domestic suffering . "When , in the name of common sense , shall we arrive at » period when crowned heads and aspiring youths will he allowed to prosecute their travels like ordiaary individuals 1 We find the passage of her Majesty through this impoverished land chronicled with a ^ Jit ^ asting minuteness : but the swallowera up o / - weaith have taken care to present the fair side of the picture only to the Royal eye .
If the Queen of England had any power , she would be allowed to eee both sides of the picture-However , as hex keepers have resolved npon exhibiting her with blinkers , we n-joice to learn , trim a comcunicatiOQ from Nottingham , where the longpetiicoat fashion has created so much poverty , that . there , at all events , the sufferers have resolved upon I presenting her with the true condition of her loving ' subjects . Talk of ** cordial reception , " and enthusi-! asiic loyalty" indeed , snch as ibat displayed at
raili road Etationp , the property of the rich , and under the coatroul of the Government ; would the Direci tors or the police allow naked pauperism to occupy \ any portion of their premises ? Ko . Those exhibi-; tions are for luring Majesty into a belief of the ! popularity of her Ministers . Will ihey venJnre to : bring her to Manchester , to Leeds , to Oldhata , to ; Hnddersfield , to Bradford , or to Halifax , there to j witness the " improvement of trade , " and the eondi-• tioii of those whose labour famishes her w 4 th all the ¦ comforts ef life ? Ko ; h 2 r route is through the i raks of the rich , theopuleut , and ihe privileged j
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and therefore the satisfied and uncomplaining . The eye ,. and especially the eya of the disconsolate working man , must look jealously npon tho gliding pomp of Majesty , Tchieh says , » Behold my greatness ! it should satisfy you with yourown littleness . " But the days are fast approaching when those senseless pageants must pass away , and when the journeys of First Magistrates will be nndertaken for general benefit , rather than for individual gratification . That will not be , however , until the people's representatives have a tight hold of the people ' s purseBirings ; and then Royal journeys willbeestv mated according to their general value .
THE QUEEN'S BENCH .-FOORTH COUNT . In consequence of an announcement whioh appeared some time back in the London papers , to the effect that , on the 28 : h , Lord Dp swan would give judgment in cases Btill pending , Mr . RobeBts , the zsalous and energetio Attobnet-General of the Chartists , attended on that day at the sitting of the Court , having travelled all night for the purpose . Lord DenmaN not having made any reference to the case of the men implicated in the fourth count , we surely have the strosgest right to conclude , tbat
the whole proceedings are at an end , and will not be again revived . And , if so , the several parties charged with grave offences at Lancaster , will have gained that Bignal triumph , not more over the Government than over the Free Traders who originated the Revolution , and then directed the Government in selecting for vengeance those who refused to be their willing tools . We trust that notwithstanding the continuous denunciation of the English Chartists for their illegal conduct , that our
Irish brethren , with all the advantages of a heavy purse , ' respectability , " and a large portion Of the press , will be able to boast of as great a triumph and establish for themselves that peaceful character which they deny to the English Chartists . Too much credit cannot be awarded to Mr . Robeets for the able manner in which to has brought thia momcniuui trial to a close ; and our friends over whom the verdict was held "in terrorem" should rejoice that they will now be in a better situation to aid in the good work of Re-organization .
We may now fondly anticipate such a resuscitation of Chartism as Will ensure a full , free , and fair representation of the whole people in the forthcoming Convention , while it will also furnish them with more materials from which to select the officers required to work the national machinery . The shackles being now taken off some of our best men , the cause will go on improving , until success crowns our united exertions .
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RECONCILIATION . It is with no ordinary pleasure that we direct the attention of our readers to the report of the discussion , which took place on Monday last , between our friends at Nottingham ; and from the manner in which the proceedings were conducted , all who read must come to the conclusion that misunderstanding t rather than desire to create dissension , led to the apparent differences which have so happily terminated . And while we are thus ready to do every
justice to other parties , we claim for ourselves the same measure of justice at their bauds . Without attempting to rub the sore , or re-open the subject . ' we think that we have a right to say that , iu the opinion we ventured to give , we were actuated by the best and moat laudable motives ; while the happy result of the meeting between Mr . O'Connor and our Nottingham friends goes far to establish the fact , that we acted wisely by withholding from the public ear matters which merely required a mutuaj explanation to ensure satisfaction .
Ii has been held prudent , as manifested in several VOtes of different Conventions , that local disputes should be locally discussed and settled in those localities where they originate . There the cauBes of complaint are first Been ; there proceedings are matured ; there preliminaries are arranged ; there discussion takes place ; and the verdict there passed should be satisfactory to ether localities where dissension has originated out of any portion or distortion of the original dispute . When we trace the several disputes that have arisen in our ranks to their Teal source , we almofct invariably discover that they have not originated with the Chartist body , but with dissatisfied 'individuals , who are allowed to fan the most insignificant charges into grave
ascusarions . We state these things here more especially for the purpose of justifying our hereafter non-interfereuce in , or notice of , local or sectional disputes . We have now lying befora us correspondence of a most mean character , which , from the similitude , we must euppo = e to be stereotyped , and transmitted to the various localities , containing not so much charges , &s chrjats of vengeance , against Mr . O'Comnor . But while we highly appreciate the motive of those parries who have thought it their duty to put him upon his guard , upon the principle that to be forewarned is to be forearmed , we shall abstain from making the Northern Star a vehicle for even its Proprietor ' s defence , feeling assured that the accused will at all times find his safety to consist in the purity of his actions .
Our brave , ufifl'uching , and warna-heartsd friends of Sunderland , and the N « rlh , have our thauka for the candid manner in which they have dealt with Mr . O'Connor , by transmitting a correspondence which now lies before us . Wuh ut ai > y further notice from us , he will find ample satisfaction in their short but conclusive rcpW . Tjo working classes will iii « d c-bongh io do iu combating open enemies and professinx iriisudp , without beiflg led into party and sectional squabbles
for the mere grai / fieation of disappointed and smbi . tious individuals . We are aware , that while an nnfoundpd disagreement existed in Nottingham , artful and malicious " tricksters" have been at work , sedulously endeavouring to make the dissatisfaction of NottiuphaTO a raj ; ng plague to be spread throughout the land . Wo rejoi . ee to lint , however , that the good sense of our frieuds there has stopped the fever , destroyed the infection , and thu 3 prevented the spread of sickness through the Chartist body .
This example will doubtless be imitated wherever its stern principles are to be sternly maintained , and to the working men themselves , who anticipate bentfit from the accomplishment of their principles , we look as the pbysiciass to arrest tha progress of that contagious malady intended for their de 3 truction . We shall not further venture to expatiate upon the subject , but leave with the people tbe chastisement which the promoters of disunion uro sure to receive at thoir bauds , when their machinations are discovered .
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; paper * , for instance , ate not calculated to Inspire a taste for the joya of such contests , where personal abuse is but too often substituted for sound argument Whose ambition is aroused by witnessing the proprietor of the Evening PoH pouring forth his scandalous pbial upon the head of the proprietor of the Evening Packet which the latter is sure to promptly acknowledge and ' pay back with compound interest ? Such strife is productive of no beneficial results ; it advances no good principles , and seldom even serves the cause of faction .
We , however , turn with pleasure to tne Northern Star , in whieh we find a langthy article in it-ply to Bome observations made by ourselves , couched in atone and conceived in a spirit the reverse of what we have been deprecating ; . We are greatly obliged to the Northern Star ( or the kind spirit in which it had received our remaiks , which were well intended , and feel not a little flittered by tbe compliments paid to onrselvss . We will now , injustice to the Star , allow it to speak for itself . '
We too , can say in all sincerity , that we have no taste for the sort of ** controversy" described so truly by tho World ; otherwise we have temptations enough to embark in " gladiatorial displays'' every week that passes . For though M Chartism is dead" (!) the Northern Star ( much to the mortification of the factious ) is still alive and likely to be SO while the principles of Democracy exist ; and when will they "die"l and as we have said , not a week passes but wo have some snarling cur at oar boels . And 'tis because we believe that " such strife" is
rarely ** productive of beneficial results" that we engage in it as little as possible . Occasionally we let our contemporaries know that we can " argufie " as well as they ; and then , when they have got the drubbing they have provoked , they say : " 0 what a blaokguard ! We never thought the Northern Star would have laid us sprawling in the mud ! Bless us how ungentlemanly . ' We must decline any further contest" ! Such is the way we have boen treated by parties who are unceasing in their endeavours to make us " show fight , " and then shrink from tho battle . The Editor of tho World we are happy to say , appears to bo a very different character .
Admiring , as we do , the spirit in whioh the above extract has been penned , we would have thought it all-sufficient to have quoted it iuto our pages , but for two or threo errors into which our contemporary has fallen , and which the World we are sure will not be offended with us for correcting . The World quotes fully our defence of Mr . O'Connor ' s atiempt to join tho Repeal Association . We repeat the conclusion of the argument : —
• ' True , Mr . O'Connor—aye and others of the Chartist leaders who joined the Repeal body—bad entertained feeliugs of hostility towards Mr . O'Connell ; feelings engendered by bis repeated betrayals of the principles of liberty , ( which we can prove if need bei , and his disgusting libels ot tbe working classes of tbi 8 Country ; but when they thought tbey saw him inclined to act honestly for once , when they thought be was really in earnest in his agitation for the Repeal , they
generously smothered their feelingB of resentment , — honour to them I—and made sacrifice of their own ¦ wrongs on the altar of the common good . Should Mr . O'Connor be reproached for so acting 1 It might have been more in accordance with the loftier ideas of patriotism , seemingly entertained by the World , that Mr . O Connor should have sacrificed his duties as a public man to bis resentments as a private man ; but we are not of tbe 8 &uie opinion . "
On this the World remarks : — " The Star must admit that this is very clumsy special pleading . The Repeal Association is a body which owed its existence to Mr . O'Connell , and is known to be completely under bis control , and it would seem to us that Mr . O'Connor , in seeking to become tv member , gave a practical contradiction to many of the charges he had been in tbe habit of patting forth . In wishing to identify himself with the Association be either sought to embarrass Mr . O'Conntll , or place himself under bis command . Now , for the S > t . ir or Mr . O'Connor to tell us that be was anxious to serve one whom hu had described as politically corrupt , merely that he might advance tbe interests of his country , is what we should not have expected . "
We must plead M Not Guilty" to this charge of "special pleading , " elumsily , " or otherwise . Thank God , we are ( as the Duko says ) " not learned in the law . " " Clumsily" we may argue . We pretend not to be the Cobbett of the Press ; but whatever be our deficiencies , we are not conscious of any " speoial pleading" in stating our case , whatever that may be . The best answer we can give to the foregoing , is to request the World to raad our observations ; in the preceding article over again . M But when they ( Mr . O'Connor and the Chartists ) thought they saw him ( Mr . O'Connkll )
INCLINED TO ACT HONESTLT FOP . ONCB } WHEN THBV THOUGHT HE WAR REALLT IN EARNEST IN BIS AGITATION fob thb Repeal , they generously smothered their feelings * $ <) . $ c . JSOYf what " special pleading" i 3 there here t To us it appears to be all " plain sailing . " We % Mr . O'Connoe , and the Chartists generally , may have been very foolish in supposing that Mr . O'Connell could be honest , even for once ; it may have been very " clumsy " in us to havu entertained suob a hops ; we may not have had as many opportunities as the World
has , for coming to the conclusion that the Repkal Movement at the Corn Exehange was all hum ; and that " the best thing that Sir Robert Peel could do , " to put it down , was ' to send a batch of the Young Ireland lawyerlings to mangle law in the Colonies , and appoint a score or two of other Patriots , ready to die for fatherland , to lucrative situations in the Customs , Excise , and Constabulary Force" ; we may have mis-judged of , and misconceived , the whole matter ; but even if so , and if events ultimately prove that we were wrong , O'Connbll , and not us , will be the sufferer .
As to Mr . O'Connor ' s motives in joining the Repeal . Association , we have already stated thorn , so far as we know them ; and we believe we have done so correctly . It may bo that , without wishing to " fcmbarasB" Mr . O'Consell , he had an idea of helping to keep his countrymen steady to his professed purpose : and that he stood in need of some such help , Mr . O'Coxnell ' s conduct daily testifies . A few weeks ago , Mr . O Cornell assured his bearers that Repeal should be obtained within six months , if they observed perfect peace , OR HIS HEAD should be upon the block I Last Friday , in an
address to the Irish pcoplo , he tells them that " if they remain quiet , in another twelve months REPEAL WILL BE AT HAND" ! First the Irish people were told that this was the Repeal year ; next that by April-, Repeal should be had , or Mr . O'Connbll ' s head should be forfeited ; and now that if they will only obey his " commands , " in anothfir twelve months Roppal will be , —not obtained , — but AT HAND ! Does the World call this " special pleading" ? We do , at auy rate ; and very " clumsy " pleading , too . Let O'Connell look to it . He may cany his Repeal pitcher to the well of delusion once too' often !
The World quotes " with pleasure" the concluding portion of our article , which our readers may remember was a defence of Chartism as it is , compared with what it was "forty years ago . " In reply , the World says : — " Tbs St «)• denies that forty years ago the principles of thu Charter wtre either well understood or effectually advocated . This is strange ; for we had thought representation coextensive with taxation , was a theory of the Brituh Constitution . It is acknowledged by the
St ' that forty yeaiB ago the Richmonils , the Fox ? s , and the Greys , speuted Universal Suffrage , notwithstanding they afterwards threw the measure overboard . Were fcucfc men lifceJy to bring forward such a qu ^ atlon in Pimament unless they knew they were powerfully eiioha . ned out of doors ? They were incited to activity through party motives—but then , Universal Suffrage whs emblazoned npon the banner they unfurled . We Lave not space to-day to pin sue the ar&umept , bnt Bhall be- 'happy to do so on another occasion , if our able contemporary be not already satisfied . "
Ti'ue , " itapraefitationco-extenaive with Taxation " has been the " theory" of that thing called the " British Constitution' ^ : but the theory is one ^ bjng ; thte practice has been another . When the monster HArry , and the ehe-tiger Elizabeth , summoned Parliaments at thoir will to register their edicts for tho despoiling of the Church and the poor , and the enacting ot "Acfc-pf-Parliament creeds , " where w » 3 this boasted theory then ? When Cromwell ' s gang cursed the country with the M Excise , "; when a "junta" of Whig aristocrats and London merchants , calling themselves a " National Convention" (!) gave the Crown to Dutch William , and , —presumptuous idiots , —bound themselves and their posterity to &Q «
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knowledge and obey the sovereignty of Willia ^ i and Mar * and their heirs FOR EVER , where was the theory then ? When the Septennial Act was passed , authorizing ihe enacters and their successors to sit ; br seven ye | irs , instead of one ; and when war was made by a ' corrupt Legislature upon the people of America for ; asserting the principle that'" Taxation without Representation is tyranny , " where was the theory then ]? Now , it was ju 3 t these invasions , and ! setting at nought of this theory , that had j rendered the mass of the people ignorant of the principles of the Charter ,
" forty years ago . " We did not acknowledge tha "forty years ago the Richmonds , the Foxes , and the Grets spouted Universal Suffrage . " . Our words were that these parties "had some years before" that period so spouted , " 'Tib sixty years since , " or thereabouts , j that the shoy-hoys affected to advocate these principles . At the subsequent period of " forty years ago , " j these worthies were silent as "dumb dogs" upon the subject . True , when the question was brought forward by these men , they undoubtedly Were sustained by a party out of doors ; but not such a party ; as exists now . The World has not
forgotten the " kicking out" of the Whigs ; and the Whigs Bay '' the Chahtists did it all" I ** Forty years" since { Birmingham had not a Chartist "Mayor , as Dr . Priestley knew to his cost ; nor were the Corporations of such places as Leeds , Sheffield , Nottiogham , Leicester , and Northampton composed to a great extent , as they are now , of avowed Chartists , or men professing the same principles under another name . M Forty years since" the factions were not , as now , glad to go cap in hand to the Chartists to solicit the support of the
longreviled , but now courted , because growing , Democracy . ; But we are but repeating what the World has not refuted ; and wo are sure that so ardent a lover of freedom as the World will rather ba rejoiced than otherwise , to find itself corrected , and convinced , that so far from The World standing still , it has slowly but surely progressed ; and that every day is hastening the dowafal « f that system which has been the bane of this , and the " 8 even-ccntur ;" -curse of the sister country . " If
our able contemporary be not already satisfied , we shall at a future day , be happy to resume tbe Bubject . With such alcontroversaiist as tho World , we shall be happy to ) break a lance at anytime , when the interests of the public , and not personal or party vanity , demand it . As to the issue of such contests we care little . It matters not whether we succeed in correcting ; the World , or the World succeeds in correcting usj bo tbat information be imparted to the people , a ( nd truth be triumphant !
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'¦•• X . oeds , 27 Nov . 1843 . " Gentlemen—In compl . * " * 08 w 5 ^ h tQe solicita tioug of a deputation from theyCfcittmUtee ' -. for promoting a subscription to effect tbe IiberaUoa of Mr . Oastter from the confinement under which te has so long suffered , and to make some provision tot m fature wants , I w ' ah to cast into the ' SaBscripfcfof s * ay contribution of Five Poah ^ -Vli ^ k > ' t 6 ey :-i «> nceV 7 ia . ma ^ - ' -l » yo an iuflnence beyond the mejreanionnt of * & . '* Buoscnption . " In taking this step I wish to guard myself againafc any misconstruction ; you will therefore allow me to say that my views are as much opposed es they ever the political and
have been to Mr . Oastlet ' s upon economical subjects on which we have hitherto differed . " You must permit me also to add , from recent allusions that have been made to my acquaintance with Mr . Oastlor * 8 late excellent father , t&afc , though I had a great respect for that gentleman , and had the pleasure to eDJoy bis friendship for many years , I n ° rer received from him ( aB Mr . O . vslleT seemed at one time to suppose * any obligations , or any assistance towards my -establishment in business ; and that in uniting with his son ' s friends in serving him in hia present exigency , I am wholly uninfluenced , by any considerations of that nature .
•* With my best wishes for the speedy attainment of your humane object , "I am , gentlemen , " Very faithfully yonrs , EWD . Baines . ' " To the Committee for promoting Mr . Oaatler'a Subscription . " " It is , indeed , refreshing to find that the burning contests of party do not entirely obliterate human feeling . They have done , and still do , much mischief in the world : but such instances as the one now recorded , go far to show . s the utter folly of continuing them ; and give a foretaste of the kindlyfeeling , true consideration , and even happiness that Ihight universally exist , and of which this world i 3 capable , could vrc but learn common sense enough to bear and forbear with one another .
The reference tp " recent allusions" concerning Mr . Baines and Mr . Oastler ' s father , in the last paragraph of Mr . Baines's letter , we are somewhat concerned with . That ** recant allusion" was made by cs . It was reported in last week ' s Star . Concerning the matter , we are glad to be set right . We deem , it necessary however , just to observe f that in making such " allusion" we were not without authority . Mr . Baines knows that the statement has been often made ; aad by those too , whom it might be presumed , had reason for what they said . It has , up to this period , been uncoatradicted . Now , however , we have Mr . Bainbs's negation to the statement ; and for having made the " recent allusion" which has drawn forth Mr . Baines ' s
explanation , Mr . Hokon thus publicly expresses hia regret if it has caused Mr . Baines the least annoyance . Turning from Yorkshire to Lancashire , we find a similar spirit , in connection with the M Liberty Fund , " existing there . From Manchester we hav © the following : — " Within the last week the Central Committee of Lancashire , Cheshire , and Derbyshire , for raising a held
fund for the liberation of Mr . O ^ ptleiyhavd several meetings , and made the necessary arrangements for appealing to the public on behalf of that truly honest aad patriotic man . In a few days a public meeting will be called for this purpose in the largest place that can be procured in Manchester . At a meeting of the Central Committee , Iseld at the Old Swan Inn last night , Mr . Thomas Daniel in the chair , an address to the working people and their friends ws 3 unanimously adopted . "
A copy of that address we have been favoured with . We regret that we cannot find room for it . It is a fair and candid setting-forth of Mr . Oastleh ' s ease ; and will , we trust , have the effect of rousing up tha entire Factory Population of the Great Cotton District to " come to the rescue" of their FRIEND and unswerving advocate . Liverpool is also on the move . Nay , London , the wen ; the social excresceHca ; the sink of corruption itself , feels called upon to take part in affording freedom to the captive patriot .
Halifax is arranging for a meeting also . Barns * ley holds one on Wednesday next . Sheffield and Wakefield will speedily follow ; and we trust thai tbe example so numerously set will not be lost on other places , but that every town and village in the manufacturing districts will emulate it . The Central Committee meet every Monday at the Railway -gotel , Brighouse , at three o ' clook . To tbat committee , the arrangements for public meetings should be communicated ; as by that course
being pursued , the committee may be able to secure for them the services of influential gentlemen who have placed themselves at their disposal for this business . The committee also invite the attendance and co-operation of all friends . The last meeting was attended by W . B . Ferrand , Eeq , MvP , JosHCl Pollard , Esq ., J . P ., Jonathan Scholefield , Esq ., Wm . Cooke , Esq ., T . R . Tatham , Esq ., T . S . Brooke , Esq ., J . Thoknton , Esq ., Mr . L . Pitkethlet , Mr John Leech , and Mr . J . 0 'Rovrke .
In conclusion , we call upon the Factory Workers of England , TO DO THEIR DUTY on this occasion ! Mr . Oastler has dono more than his towards you . You have benefitted , directly and palpably , from his labours . Whatever amelioration in the working of the stern , iron , realities of the FAcroKr System may have takes place , —and much in that way has been done , —to Oasxleb yoa are indebted for it . You owe him a mighit debt in return . We now want you to pay it ! We know tbat he has your grateful and
hearty thanka % but in his heur of need do let him have some little of your cash . He did not spare HIS cash in your service . He was , when he began to work for you , in as happy a position as man could possibly wish to be . He lived in a most lovely spot . He bad an income of £ 500 a-year , orjast upon £ 10 a-week . Hewasreveredandfo / omfby all around him . if happiness ever found an | abiding place onthisearthj surely it was on his hearth . He heard of your wrongs . The tale sank into his heart . He satisfied himself that what he had been told was true : and
then he boldly came to the rescue . Money or comfort was with him , no question . He spent his all . Nay , the very debt for which ' he has been cooped up within the walls of a prison for now three years and a half was incurred to obtain pbotec « on for suffering infancy . It was to prevent yowr children from being worked to death , that Oastleb became a debtor : " you are therefore " debtors" Io him : you ought to PAY him !! Every Factory worker is bound , by all the ties of humanity , to contribute to this "
Libertypurchasing Fund . " Let us trust that all will so consider it ! Let but the Factory Workers give twopence each , and the work is done ! Only twoi'EKCe each !! Who is there , that knows anything of what the Factory system was , and what it is , but will spare ihat small sum , to rescue their friend from prison-confinement \ Let the Factory Workers only do thai , and Oa&tler will be placed in a position to do then far more essential service than any he has rendered yet , great as that has been . Then , Factobt Workers , TO THE RESCUE !!
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the ; oastler fund . \ - LIBERTY TO THE CAPTIVE . It IB with heartfelt pleasure that we refer to the general and earnest movement , now being made to effect the liberation of one of the best men this land bas in \ t , —the truly great and good Richard Oastler . j His long incarceration in a prison for debt has been a national disgrace . It is indeed high time that the stain was wiped out .
Our readers will not need reminding , that we have ever set forth his many claims to public support , and continually called upon all classes to perform their duty toward him who has served them , by not only procuring his release , but also placing him in a situation , when out of captivity , far above want , or even the fear of it . It is , therefore , with muoh gratification that we witness the matter , at last , taken up with becoming spirit , and every indication given that the long-desired object will be fully accomplished .
Richard Oastler has been useful . Ha has done muoh to ameliorate the condition of suffering humanity . He has been an important wheel in the complicated machine of human progression . He has contributed much to the " onward" march of mind . He has done sooiety service ; and society has now a daty to perform towards him , which , we trust , will be faithfully discharged . Richard Oastleb , in what he has done , has been honest . He has had no interested ends to serve . Self , with him , has been no consideration . He was convinced ; and he spoke . He felt ; and he acted . He did not considerately weigh the pro ' s and the con s on his own interests ; but he threw himself into the gap ; bodily , —ready for the sacrifice , if sacrifice was needed .
The immolation teas demanded ' . The " pound of flesh , "' insisted on . The ' Bond" was exacted ; and the penalty has surely been paid ! It is the firm conviction on the minds of all parties , of Oastler ' s sterling integrity and truthfulness of purpose , that has obtained for him the high moral standing in the land which the present movement proves him > o hold ; and the fact that men of all creeds , and of jail politics , can , for the time being , sink their several differences , and unite to do hOQOUT to moral worth , puts oco in love with human nature itself , thus shown to be / uin # , and sound , and hearty at bottom , when fairly appealed to , and ocoasioas arise ; which thrust aside the factitiousness aad conventionalisms of society .
Yes ! in this case men of all parties do nnite ; the political friend , and the political opponent ; the churchman and the dissenter ; the workman and the employer ; i tho master and the servant . All take their stand on the common ground of humanity , aad tender theiwarm-hearted hand of fellowship and aid to suffering uwaghtness . The movement iPindeed general . Meetings have already been [ holden at Huddersfield , Bradford , and Bingley . Leeds , as we announced last week , is preparing . Tho meeting in that town is to be on Monday next . ' In all probability , it will be in the
Court House ;! but at the time of our present writing this is not definitely settled , as the Mayor , who has the granting of it , has been out of town , and could not be seep , it will , however , be holden , either in tbat building , or in tha largo room of the Commercial Buildings . The platform , on that occasion , will , as we are given to understand , be occupied by men of all parties ; the Tory , the Whig , the Whig-Radical , the Radical , and the Chartist . There will also be men there of ni > political party ; but all will join in sympathising with the wrongs , and in rendering
needful aid , to an injured maa . We expect on that occasion to see the Peer , the Clergyman , the Christian ] Minister , the Alderman , ' the Councillor , tha Burgess , and the politicallyproscribed , meet together for onoe , and , unitedly , do a good deed . Many , very many parties , well known to be politically opposed to Mt . 0 as * i . er , have already signified their intention to be present , and io take part ia the proceedings and we need scavcely add that , wi . hout doubt , those who agree with Mr . Oastler , either amongst his Tory or Chartist friends , will bo present also .
Connected with this movement in Leeds , there is one circumstance that baa gratified the immediate acting friends of Mr . Oastlep in no small degree . With jpleasure do we accede to the request contained in the following note , and give publicity to the letter that accompanies it . The tribute therein so generously paid to tha integrity of a political foe , is indeed honourable - to the HEART Of the ( Writer . The ease between the
two men , was not an every day one . The ' war © f words , " and sometimes of actions too , has been bitter and almost unceasing . Still all natural kindliness could not } be smothered in political contest ; and Mr . Baines has shewn that he possessed strength of mind sufficient tp throw paltry REVB . vqe to the winds , and act the part of one man towards another in time of need . The conduct he lias pursued is highly creditable to him , as the following will abundantly prove : —
To tiie ^ Editor of the Northern Star , Sm ,- ^ You will greatly oblige the Les * 1 s Operative Committee for promoting Oast lee . ' s Libert y Fund . if you will insert ; the following communication in your next journal . They seek for its publication , not only as a tribute to the high moral standing of Mr . Oastler , as evidenced in the aid thus freely and generously tendered him by a political opponent , hut also for the justification of Mr . Baices , whose explanations ought to be known to prevent misconception .
We are , Sir , yours respectfully , j John Hutton , Chairman ¦ wm , Rider . Secretary Leeds , Nov . 20 , 1843 . '
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m COAI jJllK £ RS | LOOK ; OTJT-BUEAKERS ' g : *""— " |^ 3 | AHEAD ! " Mb . Editcs , —Ten wi 3 tblige ire by sivinr pnrliclty Io ths fullowiEg expesure of a deep liid plot of the " Coal Kings ? for tbe purpose of breati ' - ? up tte Jitter's Momaeiit . End prtJuSicirc tbo pvUic mind against that nstfnl body of men . By -so dciug you -wil ] oblige , . Yours , faithfully . . William Dixos . HanchsBter , No ? . 28 tb , 1843 .
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WHY DID CHARTISTS SEEK TO AID THE REPEALERS ? RADICALISM ^ FORMER TIMES . Our readers will remember our friendly expostulations with the conductors of tho Dublin Wot Id in reference to certain advice they courteously tendered us regarding the Repeal movement , and the slate ef Chartism . In our remarks , wo gave the World credit fur tha best intentions ; uncl honestly expressed eur admiiation of its political character and general policy ; and we rejoice to say that the observations of our contemporary , in reply to our remarks , -have given us no cause to retract the favourable opinions we before expressed .
In ihe World , of November 18 th , appeared the Editor ' s answer to our article . We had intended to have rejoined last week j but press of matter prevented us . A 3 the World has very candidly allowed U 3 to speafc for ourselves , by quoting iato its pages the most important portions of our artich ; it is only right that we should , as we do m-.-st willingly , return the comDlimenl . The World says ;—
" We never have been fend of controversy with contemporaries ; indeed , we endeavour to avoid it , feeling , except upon rare occasions , it leads to nothing but a ¦ waPte of time and space which might bo much better employed . The gladiatorial displays of Dublin newa-
Mutton Nottingham—.An Adjourned Meeting Oi Framework-Knitters, Was Held At The Shoulder Of
Mutton NOTTINGHAM— . An adjourned meeting oi Framework-knitters , was held at the Shoulder of
, joarKer-gate , in pursuance ot tne now « = given last week , but owing to a public meeting taking placo , it was but thinly attended . The follow" * resolution was passed unanimously— " Tbat seeing the downward course of the Eramework-kaittiDS trade occasioned by a spurious , and thereby asnpef " abundant quantity of goods , it is the opinion of th » meeting , that until a general union be formed of w men , and legislative ' protection' , afforded to thefli there 13 but lktle hope of ameliorating the conditio * of the operatives ; we there / ore recommend for « J * J jurpose fthat branch union's , in accordance witn . ^ Miners' plan , be forthwith formed : and when sOi tp » form
a general meeting of delegates " -be called to general Code Of laws for . their guidance ; and shflttHi tho aagwtance of tb >© central committee , ; on * ] ~ pef . itioJF&usiness ba required by any of suoh brtfK * unions , by giving them notice their case wiu ^ punctually attc ^ ed to : that whereas « '" J agreed on M-j&day , the 20 th inst ., at a g « n ^ meeting of aU . branches of framework-knitters ^ -wjj a levy of onft penny per frame be forwarded w w » Central CobKnjttee to defray the outstanding < M ®» t but as that 'resolution has not been feenera'J y w " plied wuh . ¦ H j B requested that such snbscriptipns forthwith ! forwarded to the Central Committee at w Shoulder of Mutton , Barker-gate , Nottingham . G . WOODWABD , Chairman to the Committee .
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Thkbe have been several fire ' s , during the wee Liverpool , but , fortnnately , thsy have u o « * under without much damage haying been « q
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Dec. 2, 1843, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct957/page/4/
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