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HIGH COUB ? OF JUSTICIARY : GLASGOW COTTON SPIKNERS . EVIDENCE OF . BoBBBT CKXISTIK . ( Vbxtauteiffrom-oirr last , ] ItTOs on the Tn ^^ ay-mdrnihg witness heard he ins neft 3 oor , ffii 3 » PLean . caine into "the / shop soon after . It might be between seven aod right o'clock in . the morning .- ; M'Lean asked "witness what Edward M ^ ujre had been saving about the debt M * Le&n tswed * -witness . McLean was -at that tme fe' ^ tafisrf ' s ^ jiW . witness told him * that M * Q « 3 re said ' M'LeHJiltt&been saving thatmerning ' he ^ rfts ^—d to TbdltHife would " paywitnejS more . - Trr / lTr r » rtTrx >** v /^ f n ' BTT rTfRY . '
thaalOe . orlSs . M'l ^ ao . replied , thatwituess nead nai fee afeaii . of'the debt j did he not know -what EdwMd . MHJaire . wes ,--- Witness said' he knew np * ~ hing about the man , Wt that , he wanted to purdiajK ! -tbe deut , and o © rei . him JOs . down on the cqttater ^ oradeht of £ _ J-5 s . ; bui thatije wpuld take l ^ s , nak of i * de debt . * . Then M'Leaifsaii witness sieeiQ . nat'be theleast afraid of the debt * ib " r"he would cetera ^ fiiicJiKi of it j and said ateo— "Yonknovr tbs CoinmiU ^ e ^ neter- was dishononmbie In ' these debts . " He added , that he was going ap'that day tosetxatiie-aaoae ^ draai . the-Committee , and that
he >? b 3 & J » f 3 QP ten , idlings of the debt , sad wi ^ e ^ nughtspup&ny timeio the Coaajeittee and getfche rest . He then , " satthe shop . ByiheComraitteft , ' witaeae $ aspec ^ d he meant the Secret Com-Triitjefrr TRfeyinet in the Gali > wgate , 4 n Smith ' s latei ^ rTThlnks itwas in J&e-Hack Boy CSpse . It W 2 jf ~ m £ i&' -teenk&jwn among ihe - trad * ihat there Was *^ e * ret Ci ? tenittee tW 6 njn existence ' . ' - Before th $ t tafft . several pereoa ? seitf to witnes * a £ ~" os shop j l * obr £ 4 ^ nothing tfasdone yet , and wcakJBfed at iL ~ ' 1 fhfe wag some time , before Smith ' s aaurder fiu heard . M'Lean . spfeak about . it . He came to Viness ' c' shojhin -Hutehinsontown—thinisit was t ^ g- ^ i bteiiipreTioQS to the mnrder of Smith—saw him that night . There were four persons w ^ ij . him One of them , of the Dame of Daniel Moniiiteeai
VSessthBk ^ caJled ^ wifcesstfikttie baa ^ Sa ^ lisl ^ lbr something . "Witness did , ' -not . un ^ ersEaS hin ^ and Montgomery said he would send tYillie , meaaing' M'Lean . _ McLean came out and - asked for fee loan of a pair of dark gloves . Witness cave him a pair , and asked what he was going to do with them ; he said , " O , naething , and lie- pot them into his pocket , and went into the room . They sat tall it was pretty late . Witness went in aid" told themitwas getting onfto twelve o ' clock , and they must hfc going . Montgomery said to the prisoner who had his head on the table as if .. sleeping , to to look , sharp aadctane away . ior it was" late . eDoush . McLean lilted his' bead , and said -it \ ca « tiuie enough . Montgomery spoke again , ami 2 M Lean got up , put his hands to Ms pockets , aud said all was Tight . They were going cut at The back dwr , and ¦ witness followed them to tbe inouth of the clo » i-. and M'Lean turned round and asked witness if he had h ? ard anything , anc ^ aid no . MrLean thi n
said they were watching u . r Mr . Arckur for two or three nights past . Tfiey thru vrciit- away . Mr . if ^ Le an brought back the giines vu Tuesday , mid said they were ata hou ^ e , and . us -far ae understood , they were directed to a wro . u » < ix > or ; -tkev rapped at a = 1 ogt , au-l tLe mism .-.-i i-i ibe hoa 5 e di ' i rot seera willing to open the door ; thfy purltiieir shon ]< Ii-rs to tLe door , and draw v . i t ] i- > ' pfiniu" ! * Wben they want in . be said , ihr wife of- . he ' liou ^ e wa # on her ^ net-s . witliher anus m ^ nJ bi-r Ijuybaui' /? neck , prayiii ? fr-r mprcy . and said : o L : in . aud-ilie other rvro individuals ¦ with him , for tLe love of God not to meddle with Ler li :: sband . Tlie miihuiil spoke out , slid ssid . tney "wvre directed ; o tlit- wr < iuj hoase—to go awav : thev would eet the Ooor sune-J
and tnere wtsald be . no n ; ort ? anon * iu- fur luknew whut iLey were wiuiriuc . "M * J . « in u . d the witnessthis , and added , "Nowoa ^ eriL e ^ viiV crle =:. far it was uu awfrf Hk-j tMn ^ - to sae t " .. r .-e aul \ il like mffiats ] iky us coining in . " * Ou the Tuesday aftrr the ^ jncruer , M L « -sb . and Tbonios Campbell , and HoiiteonKTy caine to- hi ? s-laoj > ? . l > o \ it eiir-.-en ; iL .-two-weiitlnto the room , and MrLeaff stood in t ' ^ - " shop . He said to witness thnt Le had , inadeoie b—i sleep . Witness said , ~ O , William . wLat is that you are saying : H ^ said . *> ointipu to a placard ' on the opposite si-I ^ of tin-street , "Ij ' ye see yon r" "Yes , " ssid wlme- ? . " £ ' 50 . reward . ' "Ko , " said he , -By God , £ 5 iH > . " \ Vin 1 e 5 s w : u agitated-by tLe expression , und ui > l net oustTVtf iiie sum : c ^ tdied M-Lean bv tie L ^ e 2 . ^^ aini snir *
" . Wiluain , for tie tore of God lenw lny shop , and make yor ^ r escapees quick as po ««* Me , for voir'il * -t ? appresende ^ . " He turned a ) . out and ~ aid " , Ob : damn it . tl-ere ' sn ^ . e down upon me : "Ley art after anotlier m . n to ¦ liverpfol . " M-Lean t ' ^ en went inio xke room to the rest , and iua few minutes askv-i for a light for his pip =- ; tr > ld him he-Lr . dno litlit in the = hcp , bt- ' t if he would go up tlie li :: ck stair-- Ltwonld ? ei a litht there . Vrhen M'Lean was coiiuuir our . witness was sianding at the counter , and 2-I'Le-m put a band in his pocket , and held out t : ; e oilier -Jaiid . ; 2 jiiig « there was the wee- p ; nv taat L 2 & tlie trick . " Ik- was sreing out c > f the shop , - rbtrii witness asked if any person had seen him do at . He rephei , "he tooi damned good care of that . "' lie put-Ms ^ aa&iato " aisbreu ^ t . rs if pulling'ont a pi ^ to :, put himself in the po ^ itioa of ain ? .: i ftrirj ^ a pistol , and _ walked of ? . '" Wiiues ^ asked , odhercu away . " JSo . ** ( said he ) I iu .-t walkeij across the strert . '"" M-Leaii t '^ fn vreiii os :. and HOtalis ' Jt ' tn
ins . pipe as a came iu agaii ; . lie v . - ; ts jn witness ' s "bouse tvro or three henrs .-. frernrr-rfs tl-at < " ay . Xext time he came in was with otLcr r ^ -o . on / of tLe : a was Jam ; - * Kci'h . und theothi .-r Montzc-icerv .- Line in thv vhymoozi came in alone , and swore " ar . « : a ! n suyinc — lieJtj 1 doaeonel—r . ani -iTould-dyn ^ jie more of them . " ^> . k : lie Lad den- Mfilar of Luivcefield . wLen no ut ^ er person would-tako them in i > aac . - \ Ii ! l ; ir w ; . s a ~ p : iir : * i : rmaster .. Sr . Hni tlie sc ^ e . time tuat £ . " - ! . / r £ HKi . h-A been ' offcre-i " iu Millar ' s cas =. and -that i . e li : id done tbe deed . R-.-memhcrs about two or ilxre ^ Te ; irs nso rlraiiir
-Miliur t-. a atreriieudousbeadar . : ; ud ? . !* L « an spoke in rel-r- ' i . ce to thai . He s : ii ^ . 'lie wy-ued to . Gc-1 t-. ere -Kvre tare . " cars rf . iarkiies ? . aud he wo-ild . do for thi * <>—rs . " Ui ' -r vr . - cL : liave knoTrn at the ' tl ^ e tbat M-Lean "had I . eeu onniiur . Lut Le w ; : .- - i , i > t dmuk . Wiiiies- - mw him csaiu v . wz \ Wediies'ijiv nhout mid-day . Ilnl wise ccuverirtitioa with iiiu :. James J ' hicd . ni"l > wns " widi liin then- an- 'l-cr . e Jumes Keitb . In tht-ir presence M'LVan arfc . ' } ' . vituess to come in end tc ^ u-. p . nd be sat down ¦ rci * h
tiieiT ! . ~ hen ^ :: ^ :: p ; ^ e ^ io u . spenk abou t America , aiiii sa : l be £ : e : r ^ t 1020 tlit-re- Asked if heLud 6-t do'iti au ; l ut ' .-t-r thine - i ; i rc ^ iiness . wben Le replie-i . " all tlie : had b--n carted for him / ' To-1 witi . f- ^ s that n-f Ciojiuir-ee hud supplied him with tiir-m Uiinsrs . Jraii to himiie La-1 frle :: " ds in America , aud - . vi :-he-. i be rtis tii ^ rj- iw . M * L / sm svai , - k-t wlio vr 21 go : L ( . r . ' . I mu _ rco . " He said suiyetLIniT Ese tli ~ x—rl : ey lis'd . -ecarec Lis r > nss :: ; vfor him . v .-i ; li IJanilron and Er \> : l -r * < vv-.-r * -I , r .: ; i that iij was k > Le ' u ' cvud .-te ^^ r .. > : 4 -. r ii ' m urr . i-- in tire ? . ft . r .- .-. r ; lie
u ; r ,: e _ c : y . ai < . ; : t' - « , a ^ :: ^ oilers : ^ u 1 : 1 Eihi c ; -. ; -- » -ii for sci- ' spirits , trLJ .-ii \ vere snpjjziit :. a ^ d Ik * ' . oil wiine-- - - tas . 1 the * pflr" ~ as to 2 \ rdo ^ v : i i-i t . ¦ ¦» o . d-acc" » uxr . Lo iii- » aiit tuv Ccinmitteels aecoui : ! -vf ' er 2 i-tm 32 " t " : ; e < .-iriis i > e i : istcd it ; and wbun witi . c <~ i - . nii ' ii ! . » : it- .. f u ; e oihers --: ui ; o "him , *•• (> h . ji s n r . oilier * . ' iiilatuV n-jt av ,-ay . * Knew tje oilu-r .- - l > 7 I-. - f . Lnt : i \ -t * ne " r liame ^ - . JJefore L »* lef * f .. i . ' siioplif Lr . I s . ~ r < = e ^ iiversntioa widiLim . M * Lr ' : n i 2 ew oaii-F tiie roum ::: i .. : ae sliop . and said to % t-:-i . t *> s- "B-K 1 h ^; ird S : ii : h ^ is . i-. 'p . d yesterdar . "" Tu ^; vTVcrr ? i ~ i > r-r i " - . TV >" - at tli' -i ' .- ick oT " - . rit :: e ^" s cr-uiitrr . - " tliv- iiic ¦ - Wlu' . fs ; saiJ . Ob . isb ^ '" -.-, - <
} . < - ST- 'd , " lb ^ rJ s-i I :, tli ; ' mornii : r , " Witness t- " .. l ; i : ;; ' -y « .: e Lr . ^ sL . ai ; Jl pi-.- " : ^! Lim in tie . room 2 < r ; : i : i . sr . y ' . xi £ , " a-. vxy . ma- ^/^ -ii-i don ' t bother me . " ' Ji-r Wix . ~ ainii'i . tLv .- ptKous l-vuinl tLo counter wtrcid l . e-r wIiut . pn--sc-J . After they weut a ^ Bv M-Lt . h ni .: : ¦ . ¦ on * isrsiii . r : ii told him Vaat Mr . IIou ] ii . » w . or : h tin- - Mr . ^; :.: a « 'U-. - inil be- > a r ^ i sei-iiig S : nitb be ; .-rVhe died , and *" . u : th * < jUi- -tioi : if he kuew who-li-. J d <; iie iLs iie « . d : aii- ~ . rLi ^ t < i .: iia < aij lie did not . IK-* ittfii < s-cre au 0 : 1 th . aud < aii . ¦ little r * dd thev xbiuk fli ^ r . - lia-i i «> ir ^ 3 t . " ile } e i the si ; op soon after .
vii' ^• ijL > e < -Ta ' -iird ofliis ; : ppreliL-iision some time ait ^ r . Uii ' . y oiice siu Lim iritii money , . about two pt-u ^ e hiJlpwiuy . " He gave liim crecit only on . the cregii of ue D ' Ui I . vjmjuitt ^ - . which satiiivritness ' shonse . M-Lf :::: tras ofn-n . tlsere with iLe Committee . lie Un- \ v : > li . 's- - 1 : ; Tuesday t . ' !•> t' > the Comimtreu ii . t '} t 1-i-z . irK i---r Tiiveru , aud all ua Peter Ilucket orlliyl ::-rdZ \ l'i ' - nl ; o pc-t bis moi ^ ey ; but to pur it oiT lill \ Y < .-4 i 3 L \ -i :. -y . VHieu he wv * iit to the Black B »> yTt > Yt-7 ri , h- a > ked fur the . prisoner M * -N ejll , wb ' o enme out t'lkn . : uid Ln > told him he would pay the de 'i v liicL had }» e .-n c-mrructed bv MvLean au " J his
a- >*» c-: ! U-s . it : inio-Jiitea to rio ^ . ' MOse ' ll s ^ il ^ "L cp . u iir . d conti-art ^ d a Leap of debt in the u » vn in tbi .-: r n ^ nie . bur tLey cuvdd n . ) t pay it at all ^ for lie was coiitr < ii : dij ^ t «> o much . MvCeill did not par it . bur toidliini to stop aud be would let aim know . AViuie--s stoj / u-iii al' ^ nt a minuu * . but was obliged-to ^<> t > > liis sh- > u . auil did not set it at all . Shut up Ui > >! l -y iu tie Gi : Howj : ate suortly after , trade wa < ^ o i \\ ill . V / itn-. ^ s maco a c ; mimuir " cation to Jani ^ s T ;> u . tn tl : e Tuesday nisLt aKer tlie murder . Was « ' ~ : > rc * heuced himseif about a fortniriit afterwards .
"H ; - ^ r up t- 'i"ilr . bnlmcnd's oS " fice hiuiself . Crivs-eiaiiiined—He had p > ne away to see an truck- ^> f Lis wife ' s in London ( before he . was appret' -Uvirn . ) liad no iniention at that time positi-rKlv of tuini : to Atutrica . Abont a fortnight or three , " et- «;> u-i ^ re . thiit . lii . 'Ugat seriously of going out ; but bud abau-loued his " intention . Could not- sur what in . lnced hbn t- > change iis resolution . Said Ci . M-Lc * ::. 2 li ^ Lnd iriend * tliere who wrote to him , and wished wauy limes he was going too . When he * c-iir *; ap . t « . the si-o p on the Wednesday , after tlie mu $ = it- % he resolved on eoiajr to London to see Ms wife ' s uiirle . lie bad resolved to give up the G ? Jlowpje ^ n ^ ip ai * 6 r ^ afortuight before he did it . Has a wife and tw ? cluldren . His vife is cited as a wit ne ^ he . ^ . : The vigia he walked from his shop to go horns , along witu Jii'Lean , there was nobodv else < sr ith to ^ Btt . There were a good many people 6 n the stri-ei .: M ' -Leou was swearin ? and talking Terr lood when they came to tLe Enelish Church . Dee ' s not know aar reafonfor his rtlHii !? him what he _ in-
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teadfitf to do abont Arthur , but only that he wa » comJiif abontiwitaeiw ' s shop . Kd not mention € nis toany body till-after the morfer of Smith . Mentjoned themurder of St&ith to Ma wife . Does not remember if he ever told iis wife about Arthur at all . It was on a Sunday night that they borrowed the gloves . Could not tell what was to be done with them . John or lychjard . Osborufe was with M'Lean when he got the gloves , also John Brown , MontfDmerT , and Thomas Campbell . Does not remember ibat there was one named Lochrie . vNobody : heanl the conTersation about the gloves . It was at tf > aA * xt ~ fti'An o * knnt- l ^ fKnW ¦» . ¦« «• aWI .. Vkw * . t—; - ^_; i
the back door . Montgomery first asked him for ft pair of mite .. Witness asked what it was , and he said ^ Qhf ^ tra ' re not up . " -He said , I'll send out WjDie . " - "ft ilbV camp out and asked him for a pair of black g loves , and witness said he could get him a pair . Witness went to hi * mother-in-law's , and got a pair froin her . Supjposes they had been her husband ' s gloves . Did not knovr whether she had a pair , but went to see . When he said he would get a pair , and asked his wife if she had a pair . She had none ; and then he went to his mother-in-law . GavethemtoM'Leanat the back-door of his own shop . Went and called him out of the room , and tola him that he had got a pair . Was going to gite them at the room-door , but he pushed forward to the back-door . Had no idea what was io be done with the gloves : suspected he was about something
after he had got them . Told his wife he had jjot the gloves . The Sunday immediately before Smith was shot . . They- were black worsted -gloves , who , said , ' . ** I Vjsh there may not be " some « t" 1 done with them ; " and he had some suspicions himself but could not understand * what they were iesfcedy . There were some eight or nuie gills jbank-among the five that night ; tiiey were quite isflsr-Hke when-he first saw them . M * Lean was 3 w |* ith bis head on the table , apparentlr asleep . * Eta » was after he had got thegtoies . lie came J «« -j « athfe gloves he thinks ,, on the Tuesday fWfe ^ feKSs . iB fte GftUw ^ te shop—Montgomery mF ¥ ] & £ &M ^ 9 t « ne » ItiWas . then he tol d about WwKvng ufe tiaaels of thaqftsr .. This was in th «
hear tlie door . Tmd MoHtgomgf " Wfl * going . ifctlp ? the time . He told part iu the room and part in ^ the shop . Gave the gloves after they had rat down in the room . They were about twenty minutes in the shop and room together . They came on together , * and went into the room—witness followed them in . There was nobody in charge of the shop but himself that lie remembers . Does not remember if he shut the room door on going in . iM "Lean , on giving back the gloves , said ue was at a certain house , but bad been directed to a wrong door , as the mistress would iiotlet them in . Thev came out of ibe room into
the ^ hop together . Could not say bow much of " the story he told in the room , but thiiiks he told part in theibop . ^ Montgomery made no remark . Understood tue three ruflians ' to be M'Lean , Montgomery , and thought Campbell was the other . In goiuj ^ out . Montgomery might have heard what M'Leau said , but witness does not know that he did . Does not say Montgomery is deaf . Could not say that Monti-oruery heard " all th . u passed , ns Iw made uu rem-trk . M " ' Lean spoke rather low . He was speak-, iug low when be was swearhiir . He was sitting near the window , and ii outsornery pretty close to him . Could not sir .- that Moat 3 < irnerv Leard all that
was said , for he never spoke » t all . Could uot say bow Ions wituess was in the room ; he was rsitLer better than a quarter of an hour in it . Could see into tbe shoji—occasionallv ruse and took a pet-p out . Was s . tun ^ near tue door , facing rJ « . > iitsn >* nery aud M'jyt-aii . M"L «; : i was nearest ti . « * coor R ^ mtmbers now that the door was a little o }' . 'ii . Tilers * aiy tvru rocnis besides tbe ibop . I ' Ley v . ere in oue to the left as they go iuM the shop . TLe window in the room tuey were 111 looks into the I ' a'iowpae . One v . - . ' . * ild buve knowj ) tlivv had got some driuk . They bnd some in the room , and witness tbiuks be ' tested it . Tiint wituess told M'Leaii tliat what M-C ' uire . had said to him was irue . There was x-obodr-whh M-l . ean when . lie
toiii wjr . iess about the shooriug . One would have kucwiiLc hnd cot soine drink . * > obod y heard the conversation . 1 : wus ail iu th < .- shop . Tlie door was open . It was in ilie afternoon he told him about MillhT . < Jn i > se occasion he suid a uumlier of foolish tiiiirirs . Thought trk ; ne _ guid about three'd ays of ditrkuess was very U' * us ^ usic ; u . Does rioirt-niember all tbe words be Enid . Did not pay attention to them ; he speke Ltlf worls n * -re anl there , ' which "n"it :. e .-s cannot remember , but they appeared to liiui to 1 >? foolish . Hi' cannot repeat-them , for he does uot remembeT them . ^ Vi !¦^ t led xo the conversation of Smith , and M : ii- - : r was coucenirag the-crimes he Lad been comrniirinir . Heard of the reward ottered for the conncriou oi" the murderer that T « f <;" : iv
M'L . 'sn came int >> the .-hnp . M'Letui ' jshowed ir to Lim himself upon tLe wall . Witness read it . Had serii -only one placur-l . but reaJ of another « : ' : ¦•? i ^ - caiiie back from T . nndon . Does not remember where he . heard ot it * but thinks he had seen it upon tIjcs wall -Gavein "' i » nnHtion abont all this after he was iu prison . Did uot consider himself in nny danjrer w ' lifn he wjjs in London . Believed that " M-Le " a ! i was the ninrderer of tinith , but did uot -me infonnation axaiust him in London . He cajuiot jiive a Tea > - on for tbis . It would have been a bad jol » for Lim ii 'he liad done so , ns M * I ^ .-in micbt Lave ikt-- •• aps 'loiie him evil a < : niii , tli- > ugh be believed h was ii : perfl- ; - ; saiVty in L'Cjuon . " i n ' t i i e i - ¦¦»¦» „• lu miivtlWhen
. -vxv . — taken before th . v * -Sheriff , lie was n- 't willn-g to speak out at first . It . was ai ' rer be La-i iifeii i- ^ amined sew ' ral limes that he iold th " Shf-riiiwb ^ t lu » bn > n . iw s ' . vorn t ;\ He wr . i afrniii to ^ pv-i'k . i > ec ; i 3 > e lie was under an oatli not to rever-1 any t ^ unjr , and kn ^ winff there were so many in ;!> vin- ; al- < Lot . ; : f au-i burac with vitriol by the " .- \ - *> o-• ¦ " ailoii . It w- <« a sx-ruple about the oath , a . ; . " a oread of vengeance if Ue violated hx . He Cr . A w-x .- ]) pik tiil tue Sheriff-had assured -liiiis of - . Tote .-rl : ! : ; . Did not rhiuk it a sin to speak out whe : < lie s :, . v 1 ' : ** . w » :-jld be kept in safety . Did not rehise ro »; , v ° ,: nut Lecarrs-r i : e had any doubt in liis ijjiu ' d < A x-. o tr : n ! i of jii-Li-au ' s story . It w ; is the fear and lhe ;> a ;! i tlint ma- ^ e him reft . se . Think ,-: on the Tue > . ' " < i ? M'Lphu had a cre . Mi cvmt with v-Krki-ts . ui-lij . i : i < ile ; kiu tr .- **! = ers . iiu < l a black Ii .-:. *
_ _ J 3 y-thi .- Court—When be was in L-v . i . ' . ) : i he left his " . vifv- ? nd ciiiblren in ( ila-row . I p ; in his " -u ";! - ; ii ; i usjtrt . \ vith the fear of God . an . l in tU- fare of the . " ury . he h : « d ststed nothiuj : but tbe truth . laxm-s iiumi-T < i 2 :. partner of the . < " liip } . ii < t : cnmi . anv f « f Han : ut- > n . iliiler , oc Co .. has ves > . v-is wh ' . ^ h m ' iu t ' n America . Identifies a leKer from L vi-r *>< M -. ivj .-r . ! - in lhe 5 ? f > i "' 7 »! £ < jf a vessel to-Ameriej ' .. i :: iteaT 7 :-. <> i July . Advertised the ^ aiiiiiir ol tlie vessel— : <> sail on the 2-iih ofJuiy . Vi-ssel "< nu .: ac 'vas Henry ;!;•* r > iur : h . It war to sail ibr Xew York . After r , ' ci- " :: > : (>; lett .-r .
wr . s waiiv . - i upoii l > y .-vnae persons to t : ; ke : * pa ^ .-j-a ; . ' . TlieA .- w = is a ^ y ! ic ;' . ti ' . » u i \> x a pass :-. ^ .. ' 1 " < t ; : sj : ' : iiier . T : ; ere was <^ znf ennversation i > n tLe : - . 'lij :--t . It ¦ . ' .: < ..-not Ir . rer than Fri'lay after the letter w ::: - Rv .-i . Ci . il' -a . ' i the letter to rhe pprsins nj > p " yi :: i . It v ..- . > cither oa AVe-Iius lux or "Ihursdny , i > ctii . > t ! v . t » r lli .-. n Fricay . ^ i'Lean . ; he prisoner , wa < nn < - ri th ,- j :.-r-: " -us who ai )* : l . ei to vri .: iys > for a > trer . " . 2 e jiS- " .- \ i ^ e . There vvn < a : ioUH * rmau wiilihim , bui it w : > i : ' . iiu ! <> f the otter prisoners at the bar . M-Leandiim . t tr . ' . ^ e a ] i-linage : sai d be would call iack . bi : C uid m-t .
I - > r t'if * panni-1- - —Has never seen M'Lerui > : r . ci-Ide : i : j' ! . * J a man shown to him , but did no ; k :. o . ' b : s na :.. e . l ) - > es n < jt ri-collect wb :: t kind of c ... it he had on ; thiiik ^ it was velvetL-en . Is perfectly certu ' ii M'Lean is the man . Asked the rates ' 4 ii p-..--.- ^ aire ; t •} aid . beinc ;; : jo . ; r "iTimit-r , lie hoped be would l-.: ke . him for lei .- - , " an *] winiess ajrr / ed t <> do so . There ha-i been Tin * y hiners emiaratinjr for s-oine months before that tune H- ! < 1 a rreat many pre \ -fously , and k-lievei the A < - so-iuti- 'npaid the p-. is ^ se money , tiot con ' siuerable •¦ Tims froni tbe Assoriation forpa ' .-saces . un ^ t ' i . vurafi > on America beades . They were . lnkrathiir f . tirlr :. U' \ openly . TIh-p' were same fe-v case .- where they to-. ) k hctiimus names , on account uf dv : i :, lie-Uj ; 2 > o ; i : < L - "¦ I'Le-iu gale no name when he applied .
\ i : lliam Annstrons is a clerk witu Han < ilu > n . Brothers . iV Co . Identified the letters from Liwrpool . Iteiaembers the week thai Smitb was murdered , souie spinners applying for a passage I > y the Henry IV . There were ' five men . They applied on Mmiuay i > r Tm-sdr . y . Mr . Hamilton wjis ' jj oi in the •>' .= ee . They urst aski'l the rates of i > v .-= sn < : e by tiiv- ' r }' - *>" -els to New York , and witness t < -Li then ! : hc * Tat < - > . The persons were Jiut . ires ^ ed liVe th * j . risoiis-rs at L '" " % > , Pomu''i OUI (« bb at the bar as on ? of the five . There were none of the other prisoners there They did . not : i £ ree upon a passjijre , but spoke of ca ing buck to see Mr . Hamikun . DiJ not see them call back . ITiey spoke generally ab > mt the Peerage passage .
Adam Dickson—Has been a cotton « - )' nrer ab . jut tliirt »* en years . Werkcd in Oswald Oc Co 's mill previous to the strike .. Js a member of the . Association . Has been so mice he became u . cotton sk inner . Was admitted a member in the Hl ^ ck Bov ' 1 avexn . Was not ^ sworn when h . ' eutered ; and no oath was ever administered to him . The articles of the Society were read to him when lie was admitted . Joined in the strike in April last . Attended general meetines _ of the Association afterwards . Attended one meeting , when twelve individuals were appointed a Finance Committee .. It was some days ai ' rer the strike . Itis the same tis the Supply Committee . Was not a member of tbe Committee . " Ne * er heard of a Secret Select Committee . Has heard of * t >] eci an
meetings ^ when important question was to be discussed , the wisest and most judicious men from each shop were appointed to attend . There has been meetings of these men since the strike . Each shop appointed a delegate to them . It was about four weeks after the strike that the delegates were appointed . Archibald . M'Kay was delegate from witness ' s shop * The } ' got instructions that a meeting of the Committee wished a man from eich shop . This was stated at a central meeting of the Assoaation j held in' the L niversalist ' s . Chapel . MTCay remained in office . It was customary to have a delegate meeting once a-week . There were delegates appointed before as well as after the strike . It is the c , ustom at all times to have delegates ; but an order is issued at such times- for wise and judicious
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men beyond iW . ordiirar / delegate ' s j and irac&t an order Vas gii ^ a ^ after the : Strikfe . He secretly offered to wi > rk at the first redbction of wages ; but a more exttJnajve . redaction was made . Heard of Smith ' s murder at fhitime ithappened . Was in the Black Boy Tavern on Monday follpwing . : ; Knows the prUouer M'L ^ an by ( debt . Saw him in the paasage at the BlMk ' - *^ 3 r y- ''' m ^ te ,: tp-TOtaeM . '' . '' He-wiui much , the ; ifoj ^ e of liquor . Catched witnesa by the collar as he irks' jpasiiing and said , "I believe there ' s oneb-- ^ asleep , " Vfitnessasked ' whathe meant , and he te-ked if he-bad not heard of the man being shot ia Ahdertton , ; Witnes * said he had < 'a ' nd he thonghtitwas a pity . He seemed to laugii at witnesvand said some jesting word which he does not poativdy . remember . He th&n asked i { t | te . CoqxraittfM was in . tuvA witness « n ' d lift . Hid- ' -tiat . . Vnfi « r t i ¦ i ¦ - fi ' ' ••| " ii - ''" ' T ' ; ' T 1 ' i' " '•• -- ' ¦ V
^ ™ ^ — — .- ^™^ - - rm j - ^ w ^ - - . » - —^ -w ~ •"* i ^»^^ m ij ^ _ . »^_» *» 9 * 7 . T ^ i w He said ; he wanted 10 s , or 15 s . Hethen-jfaidhe believed % ere was no doivn—a phrase which i * , commin , and ' means , if there is any inisch | ef doue that there is no suspicion abroad of the person who did it . Witness did not recollect what jesting wordshe used ; hp talked something a * if ; witness wa « Methodist faced ,, meaning ,. inclined to be a Methodist . Witness has wroughiat the reduced prices , and can earn from 9 ( fe " . to-33 s . a-week , after payiug the jiijeers , Pays the piecers £ l 12 s . 6 d . a fortnight . JbutwitnesseBs ' s wages are no calculatibn . for others , as Mb wheels ^ re about double thisi Usual sixe . ' .-If the redaction had '' not taken place he fcouldnave- earned about two guineas a-week . The reduetion on his wages vras AbK | . 23-per cent ; Some men . earn as low * i 15 « . ^ and-from that to a pound . Considers that his : wages
are . wjonttbe togoest , and the wheels in the factory being all of a aize * the other men in the factory earh as mnci as him . . _ .- . CTQss-exammed-TWitnjEws never came nnder an poligation to do acts ofaiolence . Is not ayrare sWli pbligatioh wtip $ \ . b&iig taken ,, N *» w 4 r hleurdofanvH ihing ' of the ; lan . d . Has . ljeen a member of the iAssbraatibnifor 13 years . Is speakiiig freely and-. without feaiof donsequenees , . and ¦ srtthput secret ojp aental restarration . Rememtiers the time wbea tli % meeting was held © n ; Glasgow Greenin JunelaH » bat did JM ** ttend the meeting . There was a memi Jng the « a ^ eevejn ^ srmSmith ' at the Black 10 % t *\ 4 \ aa It- ir * otj ** "TrvAulltifv Kf * T * i \ £± *** mkmJi ^ imkAX-m *** l ^ A'X i iUJt ¦
«* "P * ' « * v n ** j u Auu ^ "WJL 'V # l ^| uHljP ¦ i . TJP'fpTT . j T 7 JL ^ mmlgmf was there . There might be between aOetiA- *^^ sent . Don ' t remember of soeixig any jnenibenTof the Finance or Supply Committee there . Was neSjrly ^ two hours in ttie meeting . The meeting bhjfeK op ^ kome time , before ten o ' clock . They were em dearotrriug to adopt measures to assist the Financed Committee . Witness was himself in the chair alii tbe time he w ; is present . Does uot remember seeing (» ibb nt the meeting , or any one of the prisouers . Rnowsa man name James JMuat , a cotton spiuner . Is not aware he has any other occupation , linows one William M'Gowaii ,- and a iflnn . named John Bavig , Did not hear Muat make a speech . Does rpmerifcer seeing . him at' the meeting , bu | he itKide no speech . Does not remember Davis making a speech—think ? he saw hini tliere , but cannot be positive . Is not aware of-: : William M'Gowan being
there . On bis oath , heard no proposul madu for a Select or Secret Select Cumniittee . Nothing of tUe kind was addressnd to him as Cirainnan , and is ( jtiite certain Gibb was not iu the chair . Never liear ^ of a Select , or Secret Committee , in his life ., or of any Committee under sneb or similar rinnies , the ' . purpose ' of which was to superintend , direct , or control violence to life' or property .- The purpose of the Associat ion was just to endeavour to keep up the rate of wages by lawful means . . Aliment was given during strikes to persons out of employment . ¦' -Money was occasionally offered to persons emigrating from the country , and aliment occasionally to the wives and children of poor operatives . Never knew or heard of money being , given as a . n iiisti ^ atioii to t or reward for , acts of violence . Witness Is still a . member of the Association . Witness inet . with M'Kay , the . deleffala . ' of his mill , and went alona : witli ' him to t '\ e
meeting-of . delegates , and wa-- elected Chainnan after he went-in . Cur . ld not positively sav who proposed him for the chair . ¦ lias known Huntor-eyer since he became an operative cotton spiinierv ; Has known Hacket about four or five years— M'Neill about the same length of time—Gibb about ten or twehre years . 1 uey art * a ' * married , and except M'Xeill , have familii * s . So far as wiiiiess knew them , they have been sober , steady men . 'Has ' seen ' , thrm frequently at tbe Meetings of Asioci : uion . Never heard tliem urtre or propose ineasnivs of
violence . Has known M'Leun by « glit since- ; he was a boy , bnt wns never acMiniiited with him . I » an elder * in ^ ir . -Harvey ' s lldief Church , and has been so about three years . _ Kept a Sunday schoolat one ' time . M'Lean * was wry . much the . worse of liquor when . witness'hnd the conversation with , him . It was in the passage of-Smith's house . M'Leau did not say Le had any concern iu Smith ' s niurdcr , and did uot lead witness to believe so . ; u 15 y the Court—Never formeM an opinion whether M'Leaii had any concern in the murder . ¦ '' * ¦¦ .
Mr . Itobertson—D : d not look upon the stateinoat as the confession of a murderer ; looked rather atwe vulsarity of the laneniiige . ¦ ¦ . - ¦ _ v - ^ , Ue-e £ imined—The affairs . of the As ^ naai-AnrW ? Kianagedby the Finance Committee , aiVl-WRpduW « ftht ' expenditiire were ^ ent thro ; igh the diit ' erent works every ' fortnight . All the hands see them , and wi t jiess had seen them regularly . Knows there was a vir . aril Committee appointed during the last . ^ ir . ke . llac-ii member of Committee htul a- ' . cert-. uu nu » : bi'r :. 'f men umler hini , an'J went to the various works iir . il were tailing in i . ew hands to see vi-liat 1
new Ir . r . ' . fls ? we . re goine in . Cannot- tell all the names of the Guard Comunttee ; sometimes , there v . - i-re K-w . and at other timvs tiit-re w » is douliK 1 . Tiivse :: ; itrht be from six or eitrht to ten . Walter M . irrlson , John Trotter , M ; uthev . - Park , and John P :. rki-r- Witr . e . -s held otlice in the Aasociraiuu abviut .. twelve ojr iourlei .-n nionth .- ' ago . He was a niemiic r of the Finance -Coiuirniu-e .- hi the schedules sawonce the word ¦ ' collieries'' in the entry , Witue-.- co-. ild not say what it meant ; he saw it in Mr SalmoiuV = office . This was dnrii !? tho ir . vt-sti
sratmii <> i tiie' present case . l > o . 'S not reui-. 'niber .- ¦ eeiiig the word "iiigiLive > in the schedule , with a , -um of money at it . By iln * Court—Never r-uw ' aii u-. itb jidniiiiistered to a :: y o ; : e . nor heurd of any sudi a ihiivj . . \ ir . Stewart—Has seen exjieiises loiruards entered : n ii ; ,- .- .. heui . les . In tine t-: irry there is an entry " guard f 24 . "' Cannot ^ ivu » ; ni explanation ot snch . " iv . rje stiin , but knows that the Committee , were iu the i ::: i'ii of ireatiiig the iifw hands and their frit-a is . II" ( li > i' > . not know any other thing . ]) oes not knuw ' . v ' j r . i " expenses with nobs" iir . - aus . if it is not the .- • in ; . . -Can scarcely give , au ¦ ¦ xp lairdtioii of the '\ vu i < eii : ir \ y-il do . vu separately . Knows a Patrick M'iiow !' . ! :, who was a member of the Associal ' oii . ! I > - v . - .-i .- : ; iiiember si-me y- * a ; -s a / o v . lienhe-embi ' irki- 'l in .-¦ •! .: k- other business , but believes he is no ' -. v- s ^ in-: iii " n . c . ' " ii .
i-r the t ' . inrt—lias not heonco-afmeuin jail iictbre co : ; :: ii :: hrrv . Coul ! s .-nri' ^ ly speak ]) o . iiti \ ely w- ' urt n ' ^ b ? ¦!'¦ . iii-t-nuir w ; ls held when he w ; -. s in the chair . but iu :: ! k > It w : i .- somewhere nbtmtthe 14 ih ol June . H ; i < jjo cii .. ' . T cause to tliiiilc it was the same ni-ilit w-. th the : r'i'dnir on the Green but from hearing the ir . eiii . = ers ; : f tl : e nieetra ? speak of what they beard i ' rom Dr . Taylor that day . Theineetinji ; 4 ] i ]> e . ; tro . l to break up when witu .-ss came away . Dul not look eiacily . Two or three . c . ; ini ; c < nt of thtvclose -ai-ujig w- ' th _ V . * ' -- AvcV . IjvVI M-. vekay : vaA . "¦ ames - iI'Ni .-h were two who-c :: me away wi " t ! i him . C . niii ' t-. r name any uiorf at p ri-sent . 'i'liat was lK'foiv ten ii'do .-k . M-et abi-xit eiiiht o ' clock . 'Tliere ; was n
ininii . iT tiic-re before witness went in . Thev were SiCtiii ^ on tLv' i " ir * iis ,. cliijttih < . to each other , mid they imm-uiarely proposed ti .:: t wjinejts should t :: ke il ; e chair , thoiiHii he w ; u not a dele . i'Ute . It i ^ , c " -ii ; mnry in : ul delejr :: te lueetliitis . for j >«; -soiis to atti-iid althoiij'ii they are not . de ' egates . Cannot remember at present another < leie < rate 7 neetinjr , wlu're a p .-rscju nut a delegate w ; i < uia . ' . e Chairman . C ' auiuiX recollect of the word collieries beinij iu . the ^ c-h -.-diui-s . but lie end not see any during tlie strike , as at that time they were not regularly sent to the workt . I hey v > vre not s .-ut to Uie nieii that bud beior . it-l to thu- shop during-the strike-. Does not reiiu-mUer of ? e ¦ ¦ iiiii :: ny . Dees uot know that the A .- > ociii-ion had aiiviLiuir to do with new hand- ; , in
s-. 'fang pnard , u : iu * = sit was for sntisi ; ict : on to-theinsenvs . Ha . > heard that there was- disturbance , at \ } . \ m im \ l > . Un his- ontij . 'loi-s not believe that the Assi'Hiirion sys ? eni ;> ti < .- ; 'lly . extensivel y . n ? vl con-. tantly ' . rii'j t" obstruct rheuobs . W " ould lift hsive iike : i to try hiiiisi-li wiK-rher ; i noL miclit ' walk me streets of Gla > i : >> w untirotectud b y day anil by ni ^ ht —turrit lauirhter . ) Knows a man naim-d Kiddie , menibt-r of the Association—there are t \ vo brothers ! Heard tb . jtt one of them was tried and found guilty of using violence , and heard it stated at a meeting oi the Association , that tht-re had beeuti cominunfcation with the Association ¦ ¦ on " the subject : IiL-nrd it said that he bad been taken up for niole ; tiiiif the new bauds : aud heard it stated , that there was n
proposition to delay sentence upon him ou an enjfa « eiiient that there should be no .. . more molestation of the new hands . Understands that U : at engagement was made by the Association : Was also informed that tbe guards were to be withdrawn after the molestation . One of the objects of the guards was to Sv e whether persons ' receiving alimeut ' . went to the work , that they might be struck off tbe books . Does not know the meaning of the words collieries and fugitives , and does not know the meaning of the money spent on the nobs . By a Juryman—It is a . customan- thing auion "
the cotton -s ^ iiiQevs , &t tbe delegates to be . chosen bv relation ; and when , a question of importance ar ise .- - , an order comts from the Finance Committee to send ihe most wise and judicio ' u . s men they can pick out to the meeting . The two delegates gensrally do not go on the same night . . By the Court—Never heard of a . Secret Select Committee being spoken :--bout in the trade at all . There-never was any meeting , particularly where members were admitted , any word of Scripture used . Never saw a Bible used at the meeting . The Bible libelled being tfhowu lmn , he deposed to seein" - it in Mr . Salmonu's office—never saw it in tlie- ' Ooiumittee-room . The Court then adjourned . ' To ie e . niir . uel in our next . )
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Tg $ |^ PF T liE YOBKSHIBE AND ZAJ ^ ICASBlItE MEMBERS ON THE FOLLOW-. ' gtefcl ^ ISIdNS ^ : " , ' . - ¦ , ' .:-j ' ¦ '¦• . ' . - , ' ¦ - ;;¦ ¦''' ' . _ . ,. " ' ] ^ . "' , ?« 9 > f , ' ¦ ¦ '' ] ' . ' / " . ' , ¦ :: - .. ¦ ' . - \ ! -. Parliamentary Electors and Ereemen Bill ,--Order for Committee read ; Motitn made , and Question put , "That it be an Instruction to ^» e Committee that they have power t < yaivide the Bill into two Bills ; '" ( Mr . Hinde . ) The House divided —A yes ' -68 ;¦ Noes ^ ' 158 . : : ¦ '¦ . .. v : ¦¦ ¦ ¦ :: ' : : - ; ::,- ;; MiKORiTy--AYEs . --GresweH C , Hogg . J . W ., Saudoa Viscount . ' Majority—Noes . -Baines E Brothertbu J ., Busfield W ., Cayley E : S ., Dundaa Hon . T .. Fiejden J ., Eehton J ., Hindley G . Lister E . C * , Molesworth Sir \ Y ., Parker J ., Phillips M . l Pr , 6 theroe E ., Strickland Sir G . Turner E ., Wood C . ' , ' i- ' liiUiii - '• ' ¦ ' - ¦ ¦ ¦ ' '
. Parliamentary Electors Bill ( in Committee . )—Fir ^ t Clause , " Rates- and taxes , of Perigons already on ; the Register of ; Parliamentary Electors 'for Beroughs need not be paid before the 11 th day of the previous October . " Amendment proposed , 1 . 10 to leave out the following words , T" whbs ? i .- ' name ' ls or ^ hall be upon the Register for the time being as entitled ! to Toteiii the Election of a Member or Meinbei ' s of Parliament to serve in Parliament for any City ,, Tow . n , or Borough in England . " Question put , " That the words proposed to be left out stand part of the Clause . " The Committee divided : —Ayes , 206 : Nnes . 10 ? .
Majority—Ayes . —Broadley H ., Busfield : W ., Cayley E . S ., Dundas Hon ; T ., Trench F ., Hogg j . "W , , James Sir "W . C , Lowther J . ; H ., Parker J ., Pemberton T ., Rich Ji-, Sug-| den ! Right Hou . Sir E ., Wilbcifor ' ce W ., Wood ; C ., "Wrightson W . B . Mii \ -OBiTY--NoES . —Baines E ., Brotherton J ,, Fielden J ., -Fentori J ., Hindley C ., John-Btone General , Lister E . C , Molesworth Sir / VV ., Philips M ., Prothwoc E ., Stansfield W . ¦ jRvC ., Strickland Sir G . > FirstCiause . —Motion made , and Question put , "That the Clause stand part of : the Bill . " The Committee divided : — -Ayes , 214 ; Noes , 118 .
M ' ajquity—AYEs .- ^ -Baines E ., Broadwood H ., Brotherton J ., llusiield W ., Cayley E . S ., Dundas Hon . T ., Hindley C , Johnston GenL , Lister E . £ , Molesworth Sir " vV ,, Parker J ., Philips M ., Protherotv E ., Rich R ., Stanstield Yv \ R . C , Style Sir C ,, Thomson Rt , Hon . C . P .. WoodC , W'i ghtson W . B . Minority—Noes . —Bipadley H ., Hojrg j W ., James Sir W . C , Lowther J . H ., Petriberton T ., Sugden Right Hon . Sir E ., AYilberibrce W . ., - . - - ¦¦' .. ' . ' ¦
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. j ( Conlimtcif fnm our third j-ttqe . ) them the time for conct'ssion had gone by . and that though , it would have , been right to give , what the Canadinns-asked now , und what they had asked before tba rebellion-broke out , it . would be wrong to trive it ' u « W'thnti- ' tlwj rebellion bad broken out . * jf it was right to gTant their demand * r . t any time it was riyht still . If it ha-d"hitherto been wrong to grant them it was wrong still ; and let them make up their minds steadily to refuse -them . . If they were ' right in doing so , the character of this country wns ^ mute high enough to proveut unytliiiig fri . nn staiuing or tirn its lustrelet ioveniment
i --jshihi » : ( do what- ' was right , and they need ;' -fear iio one ' s twitting them with vacillation or weakness ' . Let thoiu ihake justice . their rule , their . . guide ,, the basis of all their actions , and slander could not touch them . Let them d ( v their utmost endeavour to bring- about that peace without which extended empire was but extended weaVne ^ s—which ; , if they did not restore they would find vain all their victories iii the field or in the . Council , or in the Legislature if they did not coTiciJinte the real iLtlect . ions . of our Caimdmn brethren , they might depend on k that they would find Canada , even if they maintained it , but accumtilated weakiK'Ss- .
.= Viscount MKLBOIJIINE thanked the Noble . and Learned ' liord for the exlloitation and adniouition with which be had concluded hisspo ' ech ; He could only say that he entirely adopted- the tone , he perfectly concurred in the . spirit , he agreed In the justice on ' d-- . " the wisdom of that admonition , and he . was nuilo prepared to rstate that hy tlies principles which ths " XbbljLviind Learned Lord had so ably , and uowei fully , and cloqiu'ntly-impressed pn the ' ir Lordships her Majestj- ' s Mitiisters , iu tl > e difficttfc .. c 4 rarse in winch [ hoy were . en-Migcul . wonld be entirelv guide . ! tor that part of the Noble and . Learned Lord ' s sp « v « . Mi tecommendfhig harmony and conciliation nn
with merry ,, th «» only pun- and -enlarged police , he ( . Viscount Melhon ' ni . e ) . was extremely oblip-ed Tho . « e parts of tlie Noble and Learned Lord ' s speech which were of a different , nature * which were so ! -tn <> r ( ' -md sn-i-civistic in their tone , tbcdr Lordships would readily Excuse him from troul . ' inv them with any lengthened reply to . . After a very liable Attempt to re-jily , the Noble- Lord concluded by savin '' that notwithstanding tbft severity of the Noble " Earl opposite , mid the l . menie . ss , the acerbity of the Lr . mied Lord oil Iih right hand , yet to him ( Viscount Mebionrue ) it wa = ; a grent matter of consolation that on the B ] U before , their Lordshi tliere wa « O
ps n li-. tterence of opviunn . }] e could assure thpir Lord * ships Mint so far as the Government , df tins ' country was concerni'd , and as far as the Noble Earl entrusted . with the execution of the measure wa ^ coiicern-jd . , there was the utmost anxiety to heal th » wound ' s now open ,, to produce a return of good feolir jg and ijfVectJon bi-tweeil this country and Cnn . a'da , afid t <> do everythnig to promote the happiness and prosperity of that . ]) rovince . —( Hear . ) After the Buk of WELLINGTON , Lord WHARNCLIKFE , and Lord : ASliBriiTON -lwd ' . delivered -tli .-jr' res ]> ert ; ive speeches , the Bill was read a second time and ordered to : be coimnit . ted on Moudav
Lord BKOrc 11 AM Jhoved . without " s . r-ylinf him ageiu to the Ilonse wf Assembly , that John Arthur !{ oeliiick ,-Lsf | ... be heard nt the bar of their Lordships -Iiouse-on Monday next against the passing of the CaindaBill . —Agreed to . c ¦ Tlie Third Report of the Coinniis . ^ oners of Edndiition ( Ncotlaud ) was laid on the tubU-., after which tiiv I . louse ailjoinired until Monday lu'xt .
- . . HOUSROF ¦' COMMONS . FRIDAY , Ferhuauy 2 . The SPEAKER to-- * tlie chair at tho usual honr , wlien Mr . bnighani-Baring took the oaths and his scat for Manliomagh . . ¦ MessengersfroTU the XuvyOffice und the East in'h : ! Iiouv-e ijr- ' jj oi \ t («" fPapors . . if } 1 ' . - 'VAWllCytV presented a petition from an individual of I oruess , in Devonshire , cpiniiliunin ^ of tlu * stiindnig orders of the House . ° The petition was referred- to the Committee on Private--Bills .-
Mr . EA-HL 1 E presented a petition from the ' Counsel ot tlie- Palace , ConrU stilting that a Bill was pp . iif ' j'iig in that Housh for the recovery of Small Debts in Fnisbury ; that tho re Were certain Clanses in that Bill tending to injure them in their office ; a-Nd-praying-tlujy , might be beard by their Counsel or ngentsagainst such Clause * . * Referred to-the Committee . Nt . IllXDLEY presented a petition against' the Glasgow Water- \ yorks . Bill . ' ~ ' EOlXniTifJH KSTATES BILL , The ATTORN ' EY OENEIIAL presented n potition- froin the Lord Provost . -, Magistrates ' . Town Council , the Trustees tor-the Creditors of the City of Edin . bnreb , nud a iinhiber of tlie Creditors prayin ir for a Bill to alter the Kdiuburifh City Estates Art . . '"¦¦ ¦ ¦•¦ '¦ ' v
MAIUNi ; -IXSU . KANCES . "Mr . WALLACE presented a petition from tlie Chamber of Commerce in jGreenock , praying for the repeal of the duty on'Marine Insurances . ¦'' ¦
RATfS or FORTAOES . Mr . \ VA'LLACE ivlso presented a petition from the Chaanber of Commerce in Greenock , and from another town in Scotland , praying for a reduction in tlie rates of Postages . Mr . GBIMSDITCH presented a petition from a p arish in-the county of Durliam , prayiu ^ for the immediate and total repeal of the New Poor Law Act . ' . ' ' ' . - . - : . : ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ . : Mr . EARLE presented a petition from Oxford against the Nearer-. Apprenticeship System in the Colonies . . ' ' Mr . DCCKWOIIT [ I presented a ' similar petition from Lincoln . ; : ¦
. . Air . MACKINNON presented a petition from bt . _ Botolphs , Bisbopsgate , in favour of the Bill which he has introduced to amend the Law of Patents . " . ¦ ¦ ' ' . ¦ ' .. ,. ¦ - , . . ; ¦ - ' . ¦ ; . : '¦ . . ' . . Mr . HlNDLEY presented a petition from Ashton-uuder-Liiie , praying the House to adopt conciliatory measures towards the people of Canada . uVlr . REDpiNCTpN presented a petition from merchants and others of the borough of JJundalkj . praying for a repeal of the duty of Marine Insurances . ' ' ¦ ' . . ' .- ¦ . .. ¦ - ¦ : ¦ : . ' ¦ ¦ '¦; " ¦ : ' -. ' ' ;' . "• ¦ ¦ - . . . ¦ '
An Hon . Member , whose name we could not learn , presented a similar petition from the West Indian Association of Gloucester , , Colonel SALVVEY presented a petition from Ludlow in favour of the Ballot . An HON . MEMBER presented a petition from Lincoln ,- ' - - fnr an extension of the Jurisdiction oi
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Sheriffs' Cdiirts , ' and for various Amendments iii the Sheriffs' Courts Bill ' iitnjr ^ 'b efnrejtae House . , i Mr . SMITH presented a petition from Nbrthampton , praying : for the establishment of , »'¦ ' Court of Record wr sonall debts for the county , similar t © that existing ih the town . V . / :- ; - ;; ; . - . . ¦¦ '¦' ;; -- ¦ - ' ;¦ ¦ v . V ' ^ V . ¦ ¦ ¦ . ¦ TM ^ Ai ; PAG ^ Xpresent ^ -ai ' p 6 \^ ri S ^ % ^ Bjcie the name of which we cpuld not exactly catca—it sounded UkeWitham—against the system of-Negro Apprenticeshi p in the Colonies . Mr . ; ETWaLL presented a petition , from Andover in favour of the apprenticed Negroes , Mr . HUME presenteo . a ! petition from thfe CunnpekjfAyr ) Radical AssociationydepreCating the resolutions passed last year , regarding Canada * as ah b 1 iLir i
Jujuugcuitu Hi * --. ; jus . IJ-gllba Ol . .-1 > MC V > nllclUl € lli !> , and praying this House to refuse all ; supplies , whether of men or money , for the purpose of coercing the Caiiadians . The Hon . Member , seeing the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his BlaGe , wonld taice that ppportunitj ^ of presenting a petition - wliicn was of considerable importance , nnd which was signed by alt the' leading merchants , traders , and brokers of the city of Loridpn . The petitioners complained * andhethougbtwith great reasbnvof a system adopted within the lust few months , by the Stanip-ofnce , of charging the Price Gurrent , and not allowmg the riames : of persons to be inserted in the Commercial Daily List without , such payment . The petition alluded to a notice of motion relating to the same subject "whichbe ( Mr . H . ) bad placed on the books
for to-night , when he yroul'd have an opportuni ^ of entering mote at large into the grievances complaiiir ed of by the petitioners . , . Mr . LEADER presented a petition agreed to at a large meeting which wns held at Edinburghj , and sigaed by . Jphn ifraser , the Chairman , on behalf of the meeting , against the coercion of Canada . * ' ,. Mr . -BiA-iKES presented a petition from Leeds , f ig « ed by 15 , 000 inhabitants of that town , complaining that , notwithstanding the measures \ v : hicti . had been taken by Government to put down slavery' in the West Indies ^ , its most aggravated features still remained . The petitioners stated , under the apprenticeship system tbe negroes were treated with tlie greatest cruelty—that the food given thein was insufficient for sustenance—and that thewhole system was repulsive to every principle ; of English" la . w .
I hey stated , also ; that proof could be adduced that the system operated in a manner most' prejudfipinl '' to Br itish interests ; and they say there would be no difliciilty in putting an end to a system repugnant to every feeling of justice and humanity , h . ecau-SfJ , in die islands of Antigua and Bermuda , tlie experi-. ¦ meht of liberating tho slaves had been tried , and- it had not been found that the public peace of these islands was le ? s complete than when the tipprenti . ees ' lip system was in force . They therefore prayed ¦ that aii end might be put to the system-on the 1 st of August next . at the latest . As the Hon . Member for Warwickshire had given notice of a motion on- ' the subject , he { Mr . Ii . ) would-not . at present say inore than that a strong feeling prevniled throughout the coimtrv on the subject , and . that he hoped measures would be adopted to settle this question on the principles of humanity and beiievplence . .
Mr . LABOL'CHERE gave notice that on Monday next he should , move that the-House-resolve ' itself into ; i Committee of the . whole House , " to- . coii ; sider the Act 1 , Will , 4 , c . 7 G , regulating the coal trade of the port of . London . - ' Caj t ihi GORDON presented a petition from- the ' - Advoi-ates of Aberdeen , against the Sheriffs' Court , Scotland Hill . Seeing the Learned Lord in his place , he-beg ^ ed ' to ask hini whether be , had any objection to ' postpone the Bill . , The LORD ADVOCATE bad been frequently reprpathed for putting ott' Bills ' , and ho had afterwards found the greatest difficulty in bringing those Hills , forward , fie intended to propose several . alterations iu ' the - committee on the Bill , which be trusted would remove all the objections that at present existed . ¦ '
An Hon . Member , whose name we could not learn , presented two petitions iu f-vour of-the Ballot . Sir R . IN ( jL ! S presented a petition from the ' Dean and Chapter of the Cathedral Church , of Exeter , airainst the suppression of the Bishopric of Sodor and . Man . Lord SANDON presented a petition from the Town -Connql- of Liverpool , praying for an immediate rept : il of tlu * Appreutioesbip Clausps of -tlii * Bill for"Abolislvin ? Slavery- in the West Indies . Lord C . FI'rZROY presented a petitioti to the same efl ' oct from Bury St ; Edmunds . v An Hon . Member rwe believe Mr . ClIISIIOLM ) begged to ask the Chancellor of tlie Exchequer .
whcin he then saw in his place , whetker , it was his intention to proceed with the Bill for-the Extension of Education in " -the-Highlands ' . of Scotland . It-was n subject upon which great anxiety was felt iu that country , apd he bad been requested ' to press it upoji tho atU'iition of tho Right Hon . fieiitlenvan opposite The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER , who spoke in an exece lingly low tone of-voice , with his back ; to the ReporterVv ' a ' lery , was understood JEo say that lie wmild proceed with the Bill on Tutjsday . Mr . -WAK-L ' EY would take that opportunity '' ot asking'the Right Hon , Gehtleman whether he was prepared to proceed witli any measure for the extension of Education in England , where it was as iv . iich wanted as in Scotland . : . '' ..
rhJK . CII AXCELLOll of the EXCHEQUER said that the pies / nt was not a suitable occasion-for-going into the question raised by ' the Hon . Member for Pinsbury . The Bill to which the Hon . Member < ip ] ni : ite bad referred , related only to a few parishes , and he . only brought-it . forward to enable him to carry into effect a declanition which he had made to a deputation whidi had waited upon him . Mr . BAINES .-moved for returns of the quantities > f linen ' yarn exported in the years 1 S 34 , 1835 , 1830 , nnd I'd 37 . rwsp-eciiyely . The LOiU ) ADVOCATE gave notice that he would , on Monday , move that the House resolve itself into a cormuittoe of the whole House on the Court of Se - . ssiou-Scotland Bill .
- sir G ! ; " i ) RY ; E SINCLAIR , wished to ask bis Right Hon . Friend , whether it was his intention to propose any aher . ition in the salaries of the Scotcli Jwdtres « luvhig tlie pYosi-nt session ? The LORD ADVOCATE stated that he ^ y i « unable , at present , to answer the question-of . the Hon . Baronet .
CANADA . Sir' " . IXCLIS wi . vkid tu . isk two . questions of cons di'ralde importance . The first related to the Caroline steamer , and hx wished to know whether tli . : « Goverimieut were in possession of any further , accounts than had appeared in the American papers ? The second point was , whether the Noble Lord would favour the House" with a statement of tbe situation ' in which Mr . Fox , her Majesty's nnuister at Washington , was now placed towards the Government of the United States ? " :
Lord PALMERSTON snid that with regard to the . Caroline , no official account •; had been received at tlie Colonial Office , and noiliing- on the subject was known except wlmhu'd appeared in tke American papers . He could answer tbe question with relation ' -Jo Mr . Fox . as despatches had been received from hini in the course of the day . These despatches were dated the 5 th January . Mr . Fox on the 2 nd oi January had received a letter from Sir Francis Head , suiting what had taken place with regard to j Asvvy Island , and the . occupation of that place bv a body <> f persons armed and equ ^ ped ' within the territory . ( . f the 1 ' nited States , and assisted bV Am ^ n-an citizen ; . Mr . Fox , therefore , commtinicatvd these ' fact * to Mr . Forsyth . the Secretary of State in the United States , and . " received in- reply a tneudly communication . ; in the first instance verbally , cont-nni-njr' an expression of sentiments such as imghtue . expected from the friendly spirit of the I niter ! Srntes Government towards this covintry , and the , hijrh sense of honour by which that
conntry has been actuated in its dealings with ' l , » rei _ srn -covntnes . ( Hear , hear , and cheers . ) On the nth instant he had received - ? note , in wliiclv Mr I ' orsytli assured Mr . Fox that all the constitutional powers-vested ¦¦ in tbe executive would be exercised to-m « int . iin the-laws : and that they would always be disposed to fulfil the " obligations- of the United Mates-government to all nations , whether enea ^ td m forei-n or domestic wars . . { -Hear , hear . ) ° IU addition to the . assurance that nil powers now vested in the . central government should be put into force tor the purpose of preventing aggression , the President on the oth sent down a message to the Con < Tcss stating to it that the law as it stood was insufficient to enable the government to prevent such proceedings , and . asking Congress to give the executive lurther ]) owers for that p ; n-pose . Upon that communication a discussion took place iu . the- ' - Congres * m which many of the lending : meii took barf ? ^ X
in which all persons who spoke expressed sentiments ol the most friendl y description towards 'thU country . ( Cheers . ) They also stated : that it Nras their strong wish that the laws should be enforced and if the laws , as they at present existed , were not sumcient , stronger powers ought to be given . ( Loud cheering . ) Nothing could be more satisfactorv than , were the communications ; that had taken place between her Majesty ' s Government and that of the l-nited States . Hethought tliat the House might confidentl y trust—although there might have been on . both sides acts ¦ committed not consistent with the laws , and in violation of . the treaties that existedconsidering the unanimity that had existed between the two countnesT-that nothing had taken place to interrupt the Iriendly relations which existed between this country and tlie United States ; , .- ¦ ;
i-ord . J . RL'SSELL said that tlie Hon . Gentleman opposite hud asked him a question with respect to the steam vessel that hud been reported -to hive peen burnt in Canada . In answer to that question he begged to say that her Ataj ^ sty ' si Goverflinenfc hiid received no comrauuicatiori with respect to that transaction v it was impossible , therefote , to give the Hon . Member an answer t 6 his question until some communication had been received on the ¦ subject , ; . ' - -v A despatch had been received from Sir trnncisB . Head , dated on the 28 th of December and there was also another from Sir John Colborhe of the 2 nd of . 1 anuary , which stated that all future operations with , respect to Navy Island were to be
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M —^^^^^ ^^^^^ j ^^^^^^^^^^ w ^ v ^^ O ^ y . ^ . ;^ , 7 i ir-. r , « gi ^<*' rade ^ _ Mr . jEL ^ MPTRE wished W- aik ' the Und ^ Secretary of State for the : Colonies , whether S Propose d ; to grarit _ a charter t « ihe ^ e ^ -felsSS Aaaociation , ibr the purpose of enablini tfeemS establish a colony thprel . ; -.: , ^ ; ¦ " ^ > , f ^ - ^^ E ^ saidJiat ' an ^ plicatioii for acharter had been made , ana negociatiohs had takennla upon thesubject , which were stillpenduH ? P ^ ff > fr . GLADSTONE ^ hed . " to & > w whether the Under Secretary of . State for the Colonies would hivl any objection to the production of the correspondencebetween Sff J . Colborne and CoL Eden , as that correspondence was notin the paper now on the table of the House ? : ' ^ ft * " *^* "nimmimmimmmma ^ mm ^' ' i ; '" - v "
Sir G ; GREY said that the correspondence ft » which the Hon . Member had adverted was not transmitted in the despatch from Lord Gosford . The whole of the correspondence contained in that despatch had been laid on the table . Upon an applica tioH , ho \ eever . to the HorseGuards , it-was discovered that the correspondence having been between milltaryofficers it had been sent to the War-office , and he was informed that the production of such correspondence was contrary to practice . Otherwise , the Oc-yernment had no objection to its production . Mr . MACLEAN begged to ask the Noble Secrefor
tary Foreign Affairs whether he bad any answer to give respecting the petition ; which had been pr > - sented , praving for the interference of Government relative to Englishmen now imprisoned in Po'tugal . Lord PALM ERSTON said that imme < * * ' ately on *; ? ei \ ing thepetition he sent it out to I ^ rd Howard dti H alden , iiistructfng him to inqt « 'e into the circumstances connected with it . We had received th » Noble Lordls answer , andhe :-iatende . d to-lay it upon : the table along with other ^ pers connected with the affairs . of . that country , ile had no doubt that the contents of that pajv-i" would be perfeptly satisfactory to the Hoa : oeiitleman . .
The Quar ^ r Sessions ( Scotland ) BD 1 passed through a committee . .. . . . ; . . The House went into a Comtnittee on the Sheriffs Pom rs ( Scotland ) Bill . : : Clauses 1 to 15 were agreeed to . On the 15 th claus * being proposed , . Mr . PRINGLE moved that it he omitted . A division then took place : —For the clause 56 , against it , 24 , majority 32 . ¦ .: On clause 17 . being proposed , ' Mr . \ V . FORBES moved that it be omitted . For the clause 51 , against it -20 , majority 31 . The other clauses were then agreed to , and the House resumed . ¦ •' ¦¦ ¦ " : " ; ^
Lord J . RUSSELL moved the second reading of the Benefices Plurality Bill , which was read- ' a second time , and ordered to be committed on the 19 th . ¦ ¦ ¦] - . ¦ -, -. ' ' '¦¦' , '' - '¦ Lord J . RUSSELL moved thtit the Irish Municipal Corparation Bill be read a second time , which , was read , and the committee , named for Monday fortnight . \ ¦ ¦ ¦ ; \ . u - ., ' ' . Mf ; HUME moved the further consideration of tlie report of the committee on election fees ; the resolutions of which had been unanimously agreed to . - - ' . The roDort was agreed to . Mr . 1 Ot NG proposed ; the second readinK of the Ships Mortgage Bill but withdrew it after some discussion . . .
On the motion of Mr . LUCAS the Conacre ( Ireland ) Bill was read a second time . T Ou the motion of Mr . HUME , a copy was ordered of a memorial addressed by 300 merchants of Lpnddu to the Treasury , respecting alteiatibns in the publication of the Price Current Lists . Adjourned at twelve . :
HOUSE OF COMMONS . MONDAY , FebruarYo . The SPEAKER took the chair at four o ' clock , Lord Albem- Co . xvxgham toak the oaths andhis ¦ seat . :.- ¦ ¦¦¦ : ¦ ¦ ¦¦ - ' ; - . ¦ ;¦ - o Tlie Sheriffs of the City of London appeared at the bjir to present two petitions from the Lord Mayor , Aldermen , and Common Councilman . Sir GEORGE STRICKLAND presented a petition from Bnrnsley , in the County of York , against the Small Debits Courts Bill . Mr . WALLACE presented two petitions from the Chamber of CoramefGe in Edinburgh on the subject of Post-office reform , and moved that they be printed with the votes for Thursday next . Motion njrreed to . ¦ " - Mr . STFA \ " ART presented a petition against the Poor Law Bill for Ireland .
Lord A . CONYNGHAM presented a petition from the City of Canterbury for Vote by . Ballot and the extension of the Suffrage . . . ' .. Mr . PEASE presented petitions ^ from ; i ) arlm < rton , Frome , and some places in the Coimty of Durharn ^ numerously signed , against the negro apprenticeshi p clause , ¦ . -. -. . ¦¦ . :.- " : ¦ ; . An HON . MEMBER presented a petition from Mr . Parkins , a manufacturer in Moorgate , London , complaining of an 'infringement of a patent granted to him , and praying that the law of ' patents be amended . " Sir G . STRICKLAND presented two petitions from Boroiighbridgft , and JOeut , in the County of York , against the negro apprenticeship clause . Mr . A . "WHITE presented a petition from Sun-. derlund , having the sain « prayer .
GLASGOW COTTON SPINNERS . . — Mr . AVAKLEY presented a petition from Huddersfield , signed bv 2 , 234 persons praying the House to allow Counsel to be heard at the bar in the case of the Glasgow Cotton Spinners , now under sentence of transporhition ;; also a petition from Paisley , agreed to and numerously signed at a public / meeting , praying the House to adopt an address to her Majesty for a commutation of the sentence passed on the Glasgow Cotton Spinners ; also petitions from a society of operative carpenters ,, and from the parishes of Shoreditch and S | jitalnelds , '; London ,-on the same subject . Also , a petition from the Society of Cottou . Spinners at Glasgow ^ signed by 990 persons , on this : subject , arid nraying : the House to appoint a committee to inquire into : the . construction of their association ,
and tbe practices they support . The petitioners said that they did not dread an inquiry , and ' wished it ,, if made , ftbbe as searching and extensive .-as possible . And , lastly , a petition-. from a society of operiitive carpenters and joiners in London for- a similar inquOT into this association . Mr . BAIZES presented a petition against the negro- " apprejfriceship clause . AivHON . / AlEMBER presented a petition complaining of the defective state of national education ¦ in ; this conntry , and praying the House to- entertain the bill brought in by Lord Brougham . Sir Ri , INGLIS presented a petition from tLe Rector and Churchwardens , of some parish . in the county of Stafford against the suppression of the Bishoprick of-Sodor and Man . Lord SANDON presented a petition from the Rector and Churchwardens of a parish in Liverpool , against the bill for rating small tenements , by which landlords ' would-be made liable .
Mr . E . BULLER presented a petition against tlie negro apprenticeship clause . : . Mr . HUME presented petitioris from the inhabitants of the Cpuntyot Middlesex , and from Tiverton iri : tlie County of Devon , for Vote br Ballot , and also others praying for an extended system , of national education . Lord EBRINGTON presented a petition from the Board of Guardians of the Roehampton Union ( sighed by the chairman ; , against any alteration in the principle-of the New . Poor Law Act ; Mr . RICE _ gave notice , that he would : to-niorrow . ( we believe ) move ; for leave to ^ bring in n bill to amend , in some respects , the la \ r relating to J ' oint-stopk Banks , in consequence ^ f the decision lately pronounced ih the Court of ¦' Exchequer . '• ' ¦ ' , # - Mr . HUMrE inquired wbether the Govemiuent intended to reiiew the committee , or tnkeanj
measures Avith respect to the Baiik of England ? Mr . RICE said , that in the course of next week he ; should propose , the reappointment of the committee on Joint-stock Banks . ' ; Mr . HUME . —Will it be open for the committee to inquire into the cpuduqtof the Bank of ¦ England during the last eighteen months ' : ; -Mr . RICE said that it ' wrtairily was nbt his iflr terition to propose any question before that committee ; the tendency . ' of ¦ - .- which' woiild be ; to alter the ^ ^ arrangements de-libera'teiy ehtered into between that iHouse and the . Bank of England ; at tbe same , time he thought it would be ¦ imposiible . for . the committee to consider ; the state of : baiikj 11 ? generally throughput the country , without takiiig into-account " a certain portion of the proceedinga of the Bank of England , as connected ' with"the . -circulation of the country . ; ; ' : :. ' ¦ .- " ¦ '•
Mr . HUM Er said it was not his iiitention .. topnjpose any alteration' in -the agreement made witu the Bank of England , but he wished to know io « that , agreement was to , be carried but . He should therefore inoye , whenever the proposed c . iinrnittee should be , appointed , that the ' . inquiry'should be extended into the conduct of the Sank of Eug lana . He also wanted to know what was to be doii « witU the Bank of Ireland , as the expiration of its charter was fast approaching ? ' ; Miv JIICE ; nrop 6 sed tol-proceed : with the inciuirT 6 n Joint-stocK . Banks before- any jrieasrires sh . iula ^ j ^ enAvithjfgard tojhe Baii ) t of Irelaad " ..- tl . :, Mr . HtTME said , that obse ' rviris by : the : ' public
prints that Mr . ' Pr ifriroseliad been apppiufeci to » situation in the : Post Office-in Edinburgh ; which he undefstoiod was a perfect siiiecure , he wished , to Kn ^^? hedier ; thfttrepppintmenth ^ taken V- ^^ f Mr . ^ JCEkne ^ . nothiflg of the appointinent . -. MtrrQ'COy NELL ^ presented two petitions froro Ireland against the Afiiusterial plan of Irish Poor Laws . ¦ . ' ' : ¦ ¦ : ¦ . ¦ ¦ . ¦' : ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ . ' . ¦ ¦ - - ¦ - ¦¦"¦¦ ¦ ¦ '' ¦ "' ¦ '¦ :- ' - ^ :- ¦ :- ; :-V'Sir& ^ t ivip t asicedVnether the Noble ^ ( J . 'Rus ^ liyintended to comprehend ih his . nieaswe relating to ' the proceedings of quarter sessions the administration of the finances ? Lord J . RUSSELL said he was not able to answer that question at present . When the bill slionia
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