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292 THE LEADE R. [No. 418, March 27,1868...
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poor parishes high . —Mr . Bouvkrie remarked that the metropolis is not heavily rated as compared with the rest of the country . —Mr . Cobbett considered that the evils of an equalization of poor-rates -would be extremely great ; but at the same time he thought it expedient that the principle of poor relief should be discussed , and it was a matter for consideration whether it would not be expedient to authorize rates in aid between parishes in times of distress . — Mr . Townsbnd gave his cordial support to the motion ; and leave was given to bring in the bill . ^ , Some routine business having been got through , the House adjourned at a quarter to one .
Wednesday , March 24 th . VALUATION OF LANDS ( SCOTLAND ) ACT AMENDMENT BILL . Mr . Dunlop moved the second reading of this bill , the object of which is to establish one uniform system of valuation of lands in Scotland , under which all the local rates as well as public taxes would be assessed , and to correct certain defects in the act now in force . By the present law , deer forests and sheep walks , woodlands , copses , and shootings , are exempt from valuation unless actually let , and by this exemption such lands are freed from liability to assessment to public and local
taxes . This should discontinue , because it gives rise to ill-feeling between the rich and poor . —Lord Duncan , believing that the effect of the bill would be to prevent the investment in land of the savings of the Scotch middle classes , moved , as an amendment , that the bill be read a second time that day six months . —A discussion ensued , during which the Lord Advocate opposed the measure ; and , finally , Mr . Ddnlop announced that he would not press the question to a division . —The amendment was consequently adopted .
THE DUBLIN RIOTS . Mr . Hatchell called attention to the occurrences in Dublin on the 12 th of March , on the occasion of the entry of Lord Eglintoun , preparatory to moving for copies of the report of the Dublin Police Commissioners to the Chief or Under Secretary for Ireland ; of the warrant authorizing an inquiry by the Solicitor-General for Ireland and Mr . Stronge ; and of instructions , if any , to govern the inquiry . —Lord Naas complained that Mr . Hatchell -should have persevered in his motion in the unavoidable absence of the Attorney-General for Ireland . He entered , however , into some explanations ; but these were fully set forth by Mr . Whiteside , who came into the House during LordLieutenant had
the discussion , and who said the - thought it expedient that an inquiry should be instituted , and had entrusted the investigation to the Solicitor-General . About this inquiry a great deal of misunderstanding had arisen The investigation being entirely extra-judicial , it was considered that it would not be expedient to make public those matters which might exercise a prejudicial influence in subsequent proceedings . The Government now intends that an inquiry shall take place in a court of law . —Mr . J . D , Fitzgerald said he principally blamed in this affair the college authorities for not interfering to prevent the mischief , as he believed would have been the case if such disturbances had taken place at Oxford or Cambridge . He regretted the
misrepresentations which had appeared in regard to his gallant friend , Colonel Browne , as he feared they would have a prejudicial effect upon the trial of the police . " With regard to the manner in which the preliminary investigation had been conducted , precedents might have been found for making the inquiry public ; but what he chiefly complained of was , that the commissioner was the public prosecutor , who examined the parties concerned in the affray , with a view to prosecute them at a subsequent time—a proceeding which would disgrace a French court of justice . He understood that the police , and his gallant friend Colonel Browne , had protested against the inquiry being secret , on the ground that the charges against them could only be met by investigation
in a public court . —Mr . Spoonibb having moved the adjournment of the debate , Mr . Wiutesidk was enabled to reply to this attack by the late Attorney-General for Ireland . He said the Government would not have been justified in allowing a preliminary inquiry not upon oath . — -Mr . Maoartnbv thought the Government right in the course they bad pursued . —Mr . Cogan regretted that an attack had been made on the police on account of their religion—an attack indJreotly encouraged by the Irish Government . — Mr . Vanois denied that the proceedings in Dublin could be justly called a party riot . —Sir D . NonitUYa said that the students ought not to be allowed to annoy the public and attaok the police . —Mr . Stanhoi'H waa sorry the
debate had taken ptoce , aa it would encourage sectarian strife in Dublin . —Mr . Fixzgbbald submitted that Mr . WMtealde had not answered his facts j and he addressed a queTtloTO ' LTOT by saying that he waa not aware that Colonel Browne had sent in any protest against the inquiry being private , or against the inquiry itself . —Mr . Spoonkr withdrew his motion for the adjournment of tho debate ; and Lord Naas intimated tliut hq had no objection to give tho copy of the warrant to hold tho inquiry , but declined to give the other papers asked for , because they were of a confidential character . —Mr . Hatchbll consented to take the paper offered to him . —Tho original motion waa withdrawn , and it was ordered that a
copy of the warrant authorizing the inquiry should be laid before the House . The House adjourned at a quarter to six o ' clock .
Thursday , March 25 th . THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA . In the House of Lords , Lord Monteagle hoped the fullest information respecting the condition of India would be laid before the House previous to the discussion of the India Bill . He wished to know if the commission appointed by the Indian Government to inquire into the causes of the mutiny had made any report . — The Earl of Ellenbokough was ready to furnish any information in his power ; he believed the Indian Mutiny Commission had not reported the results of the inquiry . Subsequently , Earl Granville asked if the Government would lay on the table the communications between it and the Court of Directors in reference to the
new India Bill , if those communications had been in writing . — The Earl of Ellknborough said he had not thought it necessary to place himself in communication with the Directors , as be conceived that , since it had been determined to dispose of that court , its members became , with reference to the Government , little more than private gentlemen . He had , however , that daybut only confidentially—placed in their hands a copy of the new Government Bill . —Earl Granville expressed his surprise at this course . The late Government communicated its intention to the Directors some months before their bill was introduced ; yet the Earl o £
Ellenborough had charged the Ministers of the day with not giving sufficient information to the Board . —The Earl of Derby said great changes had been made in the first bill ; the present bill was intended to remove some of the objections to the other . —Earl Grey dissented from the views expressed by the Earl of Ellenborough , and protested against the practice of making mere questions for information the pretexts for a kind of sparring between the late and present Governments as to their respective policy and conduct . He hoped it would not become a habit .- —Earl Granville said he was justified in the course he had taken .
THE ENGLISH ENGINEERS OF THE CAQLIARI . The Earl of Malmesbcky said he was happy to in form the House that Watt , the English engineer , had arrived that morning in England . Park , the other engineer , has also been liberated on bail , and is living in the house of the consul at Naples . The second reading of the Libel Bill was postponed till after Easter by Lord Campbell . The Consolidated Fund ( 10 , 000 , 000 / . ) B ill , the Consolidated Fund ( 500 , 000 / . ) B ill , the Mutiny Bill , the Marine Mutiny Bill , and the Commons Inclosuke Bill , were read a third time , and passed . The House adjourned at twenty minutes to six o ' clock .
THE CAGLIARI . Mr . Griffith asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether if , in the opinion of the law officers of the Crown , the capture of the Cagliari proves to have been illegal ab initio , it was the intention of her Majesty ' s Government to demand and require from the Neapolitan Government full and ample compensation to the engineers Watt and Park , for the treatment , causing permanent injury to their mental and bodily health , which they , the subjects of her Majesty , had received ?
As the question was merely hypothetical , he did not wish to press it , if the Chancellor of the Exchequer had any objection to give a reply . —Tho Chancellor of the Exchequer said that tho Government had formed a rule not to answer hypothetical questions . Besides , he was really unable to reply to the present question . — In answer to Lord John Russell , the Chanoellor of the Exchequer said the Government had not yet received tho opinion of tlie law officers of the Crown on the case in connexion with tho Cagliari which had been submitted to them .
THE MEMORIAL FKOM GREENWICH HOSPITAL . Sir G . B . Peohkll asked tho First Lord of the Admiralty if his attention had been drawn to the memorial of the captains , lieutenants , and masters of Greenwich Hospital , praying that in consideration of their wounds and services they may not be deprived of their half-pay ; and whether it was intended to concede tho claim they had set forth , and thereby place them ( as regards halfpay ) in tho aame position us tho other naval officers of tho establishment . —Sir John Pa . kino . ton said ho could find no ground of justification for the difference which existed botweon tho position of cuptuins , lieutenants , and masters of Greenwich Hospital , and other naval officers of the establishment ; and it waa , therefore , hit * intontion to allow commanders , lioutonants , and masters of Greenwich Hospital tha half-pay of their respective ranks , in addition to the allowances of the hospital .
~ ' '" ~ ' - UAW-QONflOtlDATIONii- ™ , ^ - ™ ,. In answer to Sir H . Keatinu , tho Attornhy-Guneral said it wus lib intontion on an early day -after Boater to move the first reading of tho Commercial Law Consolidation Bills , and , in the event of- tho House agroolng to read thum a 11 rat time , it was his intontion , after they had been road a Hocond timfc , pro Jbiind , movo tho appointment of a soluot committee , tho functions of which would embrace not only tho expediency and practicability of the entire sohoniu for tho consolidation of tho Btatuto law , but also cortuin other subjoots
which had engaged the attention of Parliamen t h alluded especially to that which had been the subject nf a resolution of the House—that provision should h made for the more skilful preparation and conduct of all Parliamentary business . REINFORCEMENT OF THE INDIAN ARMY . In reply to some questions from Sir De Lacy EvAtrs . General Peel said that the 13 th Foot left for India m August , the 95 th in September , the 6 th in November the 80 th in December , and 230 of the Artillery in ' August . The regiments now at the Cape , ivere the 45 th the 85 th ( stated to have gone to India , but of which the Government had no information ) , the 12 th , two battalions of the 60 th ( also reported to have been sent to India ) , the 73 rd , the Cape Mounted Rifles , and so me artillery and engineers .
MEDALS FOB THE INDIAN TROOPS . In answer to Mr . Kinnaird , General Peel stated that a medal would be given to all the troops engaged in the suppression of the mutiny in India , A clasp would be given for the siege of Delhi , and another for the defence of Lucknow .
THE IRISH VICEROYALTY . Mr . Roebuck moved " That , in the opinion of the House , the office of Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland ought to be abolished , and the office of Secretary of State for Ireland be at once created . " He denied that he was actuated by an enmity to Ireland in making this motion ; on the contrary , he desired to benefit Ireland , and to raise her from the position of a province to that of an independent part of the empire . The office of Lord-Lieutenant does mischief to Ireland —first , by the expense of the establishment , which costs 50 , 000 / . a year , without benefiting any one ; and , secondly , by compromising Irish independence , and making the sister country a satrapy of England . —Mr . S . B . Miller objected to the
motion that it had originated with a private member , who had no connexion with Ireland , and no congeniality of sentiment or sympathy of feeling with that country . Mr . Roebuck had not suggested any well-considered mjfchinery for supplying the place of the existing form of government . He therefore moved ' the previous question . —Colonel French thought that the amendment was as much to be condemned as the original motion , since what was wanted was an expression of opinion . By the abolition of the Lord-Lieutenancy , Ireland would be still more Anglicized than it is at present , and even now almost every oflice of power and trust is filled by an Englishman . If the question were to be considered at all , it ought to beat
the instance of the existing Government . —Lord Naas thought it would be both difficult and dangerous to alter the present system . If the House thought this form of Government desirable , they would not hesitate to support it , whether the cost was 20 , 00 0 / ., 25 , 000 / ., or 40 , 000 / . a year . The Governments of England and Ireland differ very materially . In Ireland , centralization and the influence of Government had prevailed , in all the ramifications of its machinery , from a very early period . Of this system the Lord-Lieutenant was the mainspring and the head . He was consulted by tho heads of departments on all important occasions . The question of such a change should be brought forward by the Irish themselves , and then it would receive
attention . Ho should vote for the previous question . —Sir G . C . Lewis , while admitting that the oflice of Lord-Lieutenant was at one time nccessur } -, conceived that it is now almost an anomaly . He did not think , however , that there would bo any saving by changing the Lord-Lieutenant into a Secretary of State . It would be inexpedient to create a fifth Secretary of State ; nnd , until the time arrived ( which it lias not yet done ) when the Government of Ireland can be conducted without any separate department , ho thought it ex pedient that they should retain tho existing oilico . — Mr . Blackburn , who had given notice of an amendment , to omit all tho words in the resolution after tho word " abolished , " waa of opinion that this was a fit time for making the change , and he urged tho present Government at once to abolish the ofiico of Lord-Lieutenant . —
Tho original motion was further supported by Mr . I ) o » - son , Mr . Baxter , and Mr . Evans , and opposed by Mr . Esmonde , Mr . Conolly , Mr . GitoctAN , Mr . Dobiw , Mr . Foktmsoue , Mr . Vance , Mr . O'Ukibn , Mr . Bentinck , and Mr . Bagwell . Lord John Russicu . thought the time had como for abolishing a separate Executive for Ireland ; but , as tho Government was not disposed to take up tho reform , ho should vote for Uio previous question . — Mr , WAlpolic , for reasons fllinllnr to those given by Lord Nuaa , could not agree to making the proposed experiment . —Lord Palbikkston intimiited liiu intention of voting against Mr . ltoobm .-k , and agree " that such a proposal ought to como orig inally from tn Irish people thomsolvos . — Mr . Kouuuok liuvlns replica -with'rgreab-sharpnoss ^ aud-spiritt -tUo-, uii > tiu ( UU > , li ^ . '?^ l tivod by 248 votou to 110 .
SCOTCH AaUIUULTUUAI . BTATMTICH . . Mr . Caiiiu called attention tw tho subject of "K ricl 11 " tural statbtios in Scotland , with a view tu their future collodion , and moved for further papord rolatlvo thoreto . After Home discussion , tho motion was withdrawn . TIIK O . ALWAY FREEMEN DISKRANCIUblCMKNT Ull h On the order for tho second roudlnjr of this bill , Mr . Kouuuck movod that it bo deferred for « lx mofliiw-
292 The Leade R. [No. 418, March 27,1868...
292 THE LEADE R . [ No . 418 , March 27 , 1868 .
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Leader (1850-1860), March 27, 1858, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/cld_27031858/page/4/
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