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the charges connected with the Prince of Wales , the auspicious young prince being only seven years old . The whole amount drawn for the alleged service of his royal highness was considerably greater , amounting to not less than £ 29 , 000 . It was quite impossible that that House could believe that the expence of his education , the charge for maintenance , or any other necessary expenditure for him could amount to so much ; such , however , was the sum received by the Crown out of the revenues of the duchy for the alleged maintenance of the Prince of Wales . It appeared , also , that a saving had been effected in the duchy of Lancaster of not less than £ 12 , 000 , and this was to be added to the £ 38 , 000 saved in the civil list . "
He proceeded to argue that it was not in conformity with the genius of the constitution that the Sovereign should have the means of acquiring wealth , but that she should be dependent on Parliament : — " If the Sovereign and the Parliament [ Lord Brougham included ] went on with amicable feelings and with a good understanding , the latter would be ample , liberal , nay , even generous , in its grants for the support of the dignity of the Crown . He had been many years a minister of the
Crown , and he had never doubted for one moment that such would always be the result of a mutual good feeling existing . There had been no means hitherto of a Sovereign amassing wealth from savings from the civil list , and indeed the Sovereign had not the means of disposing ot" any property belonging to * the Crown till Mr . Pitt passed a measure on the subject , in 1799 , enabling certain grants to be made out of the landed property of the Crown . "
On the present occasion all he wished to move for was a return showing how much of the £ 38 , 000 saved from the civil list was saved in the departments of the Privy Purse , and in the offices of the Steward , the Chamberlain , and the Master of the Horse . The Marquis of Lansdownb thought it extremely dangerous to open up a question of this description , and he would not , therefore , give to the noble lord the smallest particle of information . It was settled by a compact with the Crown that the civil list should not be interfered with : —
' * The greatest inconvenience would be felt , and indeed the greatest indecorum would be manifested—as much as if the affairs of any private gentleman were enquired into—if they were to examine in that House , or in the other House of Parliament , or out of doors , whether there had been a horse too much or too little given in this department , or a dinuer too much or little given in that department , the real question being whether the honour and dignity of the Crown had been generally maintained . He would not ask their lordships whether this object had been attained in the present reign .
He believed it was admitted on all hands that the expenditure of the civil list had been regulated in accordance with the spirit of the country , with the honour and dignity of the Crown , and with a liberal distribution of public and private charity . ( Hear , hear . ) Beyond that he did not know that the public could desire anything ; and he would put it to his noble and learned friend whether his motion could answer any other purpose than that of satisfying mere curiosity ? On these grounds he must oppose the motion of his noble and learned friend . "
The Duke of Wellington said that , on settling the civil list , Parliament had stipulated that it would not enquire into the expenses of the civil list , and that the right of the Crown to appropriate to one class the savings effected in another was unquestionable . Lord Monteaole said that , in the settlement of the civil list , the words of Lord Spencer , which were echoed in Parliament , were , that Parliament should vote the gross sum applied for , and that the whole of the savings were to go to the Crown . Loid ] inouoHAM snatched up his hat , and , hurrying in the direction of the door , said , " I will not give your
lordships the trouble of dividing . " The Marquis of Buead . vlbane saidthe noble and learned lord would take nothing by his motion . He might look upon himself as a public benefactor , but the public would not so regard him . It was his opinion that the noble and learned lord had entitled himself to the censure of that House , and he was sure the public -would be of the sumo opinion . Lord Buouoham who , during the noble Marquis ' s observations , had been standing by the side of the woolsack in earnest conversation with
the Lord Chancellor , turned round abruptly , and , pointing in the direction of the noble marquis , exclaimed , «• Is he moving a vote of censure ? " { Loud Luuyhter ) . The Marquis of Bueadaxjiane : No ; but I say you have entitled yourself to the censure of the House and the public . Lord Buouoham , in very hurried accents , and with vehemence , replied , " Oh ! I have no fear of this House or the public . " ( Luvf / hter . ) His eccentric lordship then run out of the House , and no more was heard of the motion .
In the House of Commons , last evening , Mr . Hume gave notice that on Monday next he Will move the following resolution as an amendment to tho resolutions of the Attorney-Gouerul in the case of tho Btiron llothschild : — 41 That the clerk of this House having proceeded as directed by this House to administer the oath to Baron Lionel Nuthun de llothschild , one of the members fur the city of London , upon the Old Testament , being the form wliir-h he declared to be tho most binding on his conscience , and the Baron having so sworn to the oath of abjuration with the omission ot the words ' upon the true fuitli of u Christian . ' and doubts having arisen as to
the legal effect of his so taking the oath , it is expedient , at the commencement of the next session of Parliament , that a bill should be introduced to declare the law with reference to the due administration of that oath ; and , further , that this House will then take into its serious consideration the subject of the oaths now administered to its members with reference to the changes which have taken place since they were first imposed by law . "
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A letter from the Earl of Carlisle to Mr . Leman , chairman of the York , Newcastle , and Berwick railway , states that " the Queen and Prince Albert will open the Berwick railway on the 29 th of August . They will set off from Castle Howard that morning , and will sleep in Edinburgh . " The statement that the royal visit to Scotland will take place before the 20 th of August is therefore incorrect . A number of electors met Sir Charles Napier , at the Horns Tavern , Kennington , last night . In the course of a speech declaratory of his principles , he recapitulated his votes in Parliament in favour of the
ballot and for an extension of the suffrage , though on this point he did not go to the extent of some of his friends . He defended the policy of the Duke of Wellington , as to the necessity of maintaining the defences of the country , and instanced the statement of Lord Ellenborough in the Upper House to show how essential it was when Russia has now a fleet of thirty to forty sail of the line in the Baltic , while the British force is truly insignificant . A true saving to be effected was in the dockyards , where the expenditure had been at once lavish and useless . He would not pledge himself to vote for any measure to put down Sunday trading ; that would best be effected
by masters paying their men on Friday night . No man could be * made religious by act of Parliament . He would join in shortening the duration of Parliaments , but was not prepared to support a proposition for a severance between the church and state , nor for any interference with the Established Church in Ireland . On the question of the abolition of the taxes on knowledge he was not prepared to give a reply ; Mr . Henry Knight moved a resolution to the effect , that Sir Charles Napier ' s political opinions rendered him a tit and proper person to represent the borough of Lambeth in Parliament . ( Cheers , hisses , and groans . ) The motion was seconded by a Mr . Evans . Mr . T . B . Barker moved as an amendment , " That
the late period of Admiral Napier s appearance in the field at the present election considerably endangered the liberal interests , without any probable chance of success . " This amendment was seconded by Mr . Gedye , amidst loud groans , cheers , and general uproar . Ultimately the resolution was said to have been carried . The polling will take place on Tuesday . Mr . Ouseley Higgins , M . P . for the county of Mayo , accompanied by his friends , presented himself at the
House of Commons this morning , in order to be sworn in . The return to the writ not having been yet made , the honourable gentlemau was unable to take his seat . As tne election took place on Monday , and the return was made by the Sheriff the same evening to the Hanaper Office in Dublin , the delay in its transmission seems rather excessive in those days of rapid transport ; and such a circumstance might be very untoward , or very convenient , to one or the other party , of which a member , or an opponent , might be thus " shut out" from a critical division .
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No material change has taken place in the relative positions of the two armies since the battle of Idstedt . The dispositions taken by General Willisen , commander-in-chief of the Schleswig-llolstein army , lead to a supposition of a speedy renewal of active hostilities . Another battle is imminent . The great question then is—Will the Danes , if victorious , follow the insurgents into Holstein , the territory of the Germanic Confederation , without the
consent of the latter ? Martial law has been proclaimed in Sclileswig , and every means are employed to fonify the position of the Danish army . In a proclamation dated the 29 ih of July , the Lieutenancy of Suhleswig-Holstein asserts that the army is only repulsed , bui not conquered . The position lost can be regained—the painlul losses sustained can be repaired . The army is animated with its usual courage , and awaits with firmness the opportunity of renewing the struggle . Nothing is yet lost , and the country hopes that every one will do his duty . A Danish journal states that a small English bteamer , accompanied by two schooners , arrived at Copenhagen on Saturday night with 1200 prisoners on board . The same journal states that a large llus .-uan steamer arrived on the 30 th ult ., with several small
vessels , having on board GGO wounded . The anticipated crisis or schism has taken place at Frankfort . It was decided at the Cabinet Council held at tians Suuei on Saturday that the Prussian plenipotentiary at Frankfort should forthwith ; bo recalled . This resolution was announced to the Princely College , on Tuesday , an « l approved of by the plenipotentiaries of Governments , who will , of course , order tlioir ngents at Frankfort to retire forthwith . Lieut .-General Pcucker will , it is said , remain at Frnnkfort , but morel y as member of tho central military commission . Notwithstanding this , expectations aro held out to Denmark that the latincations of the confederation will be obtained in a fortnight .
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POSITION OF PARTIES . As the Irish Franchise Bill is accounted the measure of the se 8 sion , it becomes interesting and usefuj to note the position of political parties in the de . bate ; and although that was not very clearly oi absolutely denned , there were some suggestive indications . You remember that the pith and gist of the measure was , to extend the £ 8 occupancy franchise of boroughs to the counties of Ireland j the county franchise having been almost exterminated by the joint operation of famine , emigration , ejectments , and ruin . Mayo has just shown , at the recent election , that it does not retain one
voter in a thousand of the population . The measure , therefore , was devised to restore to Ireland the faculty of electing representatives . The Peers raised the amount from £ 8 to £ 15 ; also abolishing the enactment that an entry in the registration should remain good until it should be challenged , and so requiring the elector to make his claim at everv new revision of the register . These " amendments " came down to the Commons for consideration , and it fell to the lea&sr , Lord John Russell , to declare what he would do . This is the point at which the political parties that still retain some trace of active vitality are to be noted .
Lord John Russell is not only the accredited , but he is the boasted head of the Whig party—the archetype of their sagacity and capacity . He described the constitution under which he supposes himself to act , and repudiated one which he supposed Mr . Bright to aim at : — Let them suppose the honourable gentleman to have his will with respect to the reform of the present House of Parliament ; that he gave what was called , he believed , the household suffrage , which , in fact , more nearly approached what was called universal Hiirfrage , for it went far beyond what was understood as household suffrage in former days—and that he had an elective assembly elected
under that law ; and suppose the Minister were to say at the beginning of the session to that popular assembly , *• Here is a great measure I propose to you—it must be carried in its integrity—from it you must not depart ; " and suppose , according to the existing state of things , that the House of Lords were not to modify that measure , but to reject it altogether—the honourable gentleman must have something in reserve—he must have some resource—and it was evident he meant that the will of that popular assembly was to prevail , and that there was to be no discussion , no modification , no tampering of moderate views , no elaborate or learned dh > -
cussion , no reference to history , no regard for precedent , which might in any way alter the views of that imaginary Minister who was to go down to that Houte and say , " Such is my will , and it must not be changed . ' [ Lord John then proceeded as foljowH : —] "Without discussing the merits of our constitution , or any other , at the present moment , it is quite plain that what the honourable member really propones is an absolute democratic assembly , which shall have no barrier to its willwhich shall meet with no opposition to its decrees , and before which all the estates and constituted powers of the country must bow . It may be that such a change is dt sirable ; all I can aay is , that I am not one of the persons who desire it . All I can say is that i think , with
all its inconveniences—with its very long delays—with frequent rejection of measures that after some vears everyone admits to be useful—with lengthened discussions—with the many l . 'uedimenta to legislation which arise in this country—wuh all these counteracting Influence * , yet the sum of good obtained under our eonatitution in so great , our institutions are in themaelven so valuable , and thrir fruits ho precious compared with those which ( with perhaps one or two exceptions ) histoiy , either uncient or modern , mIiowk to have been produced by any other form ol government—by any other constitution devised by the wihdom of man—that for my own part I am not willing to chanue the constitution of thin country for any other that the honourable intinber may recommend . " With this constitution Lord John proceeds to carry all his measures by a spirit of ** compromise " —the word is his own j and he evidently thinks that any other method would lead to a break up of this superhumanly wise constitution . He thinks a Minister is to have no peremptory conviction ; he regards one class us set to balance the other ; he
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There is nothing so revolutionary , because there l nothing bo unnatural and convulsive , as the strain t < keep things fixed when all the world is by the very law o its creation in us eternal progress . —I 3 b . Abnold .
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v SATURDAY , AUGUST 3 , 1850 .
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Aug . 3 , 1850 . ] ffi # t % tk %$ t \ 443
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Leader (1850-1860), Aug. 3, 1850, page 443, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1849/page/11/
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