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The Bishop of Manchester presided over a meeting of about five hundred gentlemen in the Townhall of Manchester on Thursday , to hear Mr . William Entwistle read a paper on the Salford and Manchester educational scheme , the rival of the plan propounded by the National Public School Association . His conclusions were entirely in favour of the former , ¦ while he admitted that if it failed the secular educationists would have a right to say that any public system for combining religious with secular instruction was indeed impossible .
A discussion arose afterwards . The Dean of Manchester said , among other things : — " I have been told repeatedly that I have been acting rather against Church principles in acting in support of a scheme of this kind . I deny it entirely . ( Hear , hear . ) I believe that we are actually supporting Church principles . ( Hear , hear . ) We are supporting thernin the best and most effective manner . ( Hear , hear . ) We are educating the people for the purpose of enabling them to investigate truth , and if Church principles be not truth , I can have nothing to do with them . ( Loud cheers . ) It ¦ was also said that they were supporting dissent . I know not in what that can be applied ; I believe it to be
way absolutely necessary that every person should have the fullest liberty to exercise his own judgment m that which concerns himself personally . ( Loud applause . ) The object of this bill is not to create dissension between one sect and another , it is not to create greater differences than already exist between what are called Church principles and what are called latitudinarian sentiments ; but it is for the very purpose of making persons inquire diligently for themselves , under proper guidance , in . order that they may be settled down in those things which they shall ultimately find best for their own satisfaction , and shall find agreeable to the word of God as they themselves can understand it . "
The Reverend Mr . Fletcher , an Independent minister , spoke up for compromise upon minute points of difference ; and he put a difficulty and rid himself of it thus : — " Permit me , gentlemen , to say , that with respect to myself , the chief difficulty I felt was on the great point of religious liberty . ( Hear , hear . ) As a conscientious Dissenter , I felt that 1 could not be a party lo the erection of what has been called a second religious establishment . You will forgive me—all those who take a different view on that point—for allowing myself to feel this difficulty . ( Hear , hear . ) But , on looking at the matter , it appears to me that the rate is applied simply for the secular part of the instruction , and the religious portion is thus left to the conscience of each parent , or child of each parent . "
He arrived at the conclusion that the rate was levied , not for the support of schoolmasters , but was given to the parents , in fact , to send their children to school . The Bishop of Manchester , in his address , haying expressed himself strongly in favour of combined secular and religious education , said : — "But while I like this , gentlemen , there is another feature in the present scheme which holds it no less valuable in my eyes , ' and that is the fact that it provides the largest and most extended religious toleration . ( Applause . ) Nor let any one fear , who in a member of the Cuurchof England , in this room , that in expressing this opinion and advocating these views 1 feel 1 am in the slightest degree
perilling that Church in all itH purity integrity . So deeply am 1 convinced of the truth of her doctrines , ho respectfully and reverentially do 1 view all her formularifH , that I not only never would consent to oriik them - any education which ' had to direct myself , but 1 would never desecrate them ' jy forcing them on those who could not receive them with a just appj eciulion of their excellence . ( Crcat cheer iny . ) 1 thank you , I fully thank you , for the manner in which you have received that rcintii k—( renewed cheer in ;/) , for in thin I have been misunderstood , and misrepresented ; but while 1 suy to our own people and those of our own faith , 1 never could forego the teaching in all its fulnesB what we believe to be true , I never will bo a party to forcing it upon others . ( Applause . )
Tho Kuverond Hugh ttlowell commended tho plan , advocated muIiooIh where the children of . all classes could mix together ; and denied that the p lan in question waw lor teaching Church dogmas : — " What he would Buy to the secular was , ' Youth in a negative conscience , ours i « a punitive conscience-: uow the infringement of a negative conscience m no hardship but the inffiii 8 « mc « l of * |><>» itive conscience is It would bo a noble thing to nee them getting rid of tins negative coiibcicntioub « c 8 » and joining the present aasocation ; and he could truly H . ylie would then fight as heartily with them an ever he did against them , and it would b « a glorious day for Manchester and bulford , fur they would have solved the grand problem , and tmcccbH muni attend their object . " ( Applause . )
The Reverend George Osborn , a Wesley an minister , stigmatised the P ublic School plan as impracticable . " He held that it was impossible to teach morality without touching upon the basis of men ' s religious convictions . In . reality he regarded the struggle with the other system as one between Christianity and no Christianity—between Christianity and infidelity ; and he proceeded to speak of a member of the council of the National Public School Association , who , he said , denied the existence of a God . " The usual votes of thanks were proposed , and the Mayor of Manchester took the opportunity of vindicating the gentlemen of the National Public School Association from the utterly uncalled for attack of the Reverend George Osborn .
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MINISTERS AND THE CATHOLIC DEFENCE . No question of religious doctrine is at issue in the continued , the growing struggle between the Government and the Irish Catholics . We are well aware that many well meaning people discuss the justice and policy of the present contest with arguments in their own minds against the tenets of the Roman Catholics . But that objection cannot be
honestly or logically advanced now . There is no safety , or courage either , in compromises between real freedom , of opinion and dictation—dictation being Absolutism in politics or Popery in religion . England abjures both , and cannot honestly or conveniently employ either . The question at issue is , whether all sects shall or shall not be free to hold , and to avow , their own doctrines , and to perform their own ceremonials and evolutions within their
own pale i That question was settled at the time of Roman Catholic Emancipation . We then allowed that every sect ought to have such freedom . If , indeed , the Roman Catholics had attempted , or had threatened , coercion of some other sect , then the state might have intervened ; but there was no such attempt or threat . Were any question of doctrine at issue , we might find ourselves as heartily opposing some of the doctrines current among the Irish bishops and their friends as we are now heartily defending their right to
expound those doctrines and to act up to those doctrines themselves . Dr . Cullen is said to have conducted a periodical at Rome adhering- to the Ptolemaic theory of the solar system , and we affirm his right to state that strange opinion ; but , as our talking patriots would say , we " fearlessly" deny its truth . He speaks of " order" as the thing to be maintained , in the Neapolitan sense ; he cannot recognize any " rising " of a People m defence of its rights ; he upholds the present
temporal policy of Rome and Naples : now we vindicate the right of a man to hold Tory and Absolutist opinions , and to obtain their adoption if he can ; but we oppose them with all our strength . Meanwhile , we have no fear of any such reaction in England . If Dr . Cullen thinks that a Pitt-and-Pope policy is the true method to reinstate Catholicism in this country , ne is not less grievously mistaken than the lunatic wno proposed to roll back the globe for a few years ,, in order to revise and correct the conduct ot tne
KJS . KA . KjX % * KJ 4 \ -t V * OV » UftAV * vv « W" w »« -w — a world , so that we might do it all over again in aue order . We need not arm ourselves against any Pitt-and-Pope agitation ; it won ' t do ; it would only be a total failure , a " fiasco . " The Roman Catholics are following out what was permitted by the Relief Act of 1847 , what was expressly anticipated by Lord L yndhurst , expressly sanctioned by Lord John Russell , ac quiesced in lish (
by Lord Minto . Suddenly the Eng ' . J " ment changes , revokes its sanction , raises an # V , tion , and forbids what it had invited . V ^ r .. " tholics persevere . They have justice on their siue , and when the English people witnesses the meat taken to enforce a law of coercion B B ., ? , earn its doctrines , ceremonial , and offices , they will ^ to appreciate the statesmanship and patnotisi
the men who got up the agitation . « , < irds Meanwhile Ireland , that was advancing towa ^ peace and prosperity through the rough , % i famine , pestilence , and eviction , is again in in the old and worse than barren warfare -w ligioiiH discord . The "Roman Catholics , who ' we > peaceably joining the new colleges , and pro " j * by national education , under the mi . Id oanenro Archbishop Murray , now , under ArchbisnojJ ^ tiro enrolling themselves for " defence . Whigs could not resist tho tem P f . . 1 t j ; . 'l rBion a Hhain Anti-Popish tumult , as a political diver ^ for their own idleness ; they could not rm » Frederic Thesiger and Mr . Walpole m « " *» £ their trick a reality ; and now tkey ^*^ Twe a choice equally disgraceful on either aide—w
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TO EEADEBS AND CORRESPONDENTS . It is impossible to acknowledge the mass of letters we receive Their insertion is of ten delayed , owing to a press of matter ; and when omitted it is frequently from reasons quite independent of the merits of the communication . Communications should always be legibly written , and on one side of the paper only . If long-, it increases the difficulty of finding space for them .
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The Queen left Holyrood Palace on Friday morning for Balmoral . The journey will be performed by rail as far as Stonehaven , and the remainder posted . A telegraphic despatch from Vienna announces the death of the Duke of Saxe-Cobourg Koharv , elder brother of the King of the Belgians , at six o ' clock on the morning of the 27 th ( Wednesday ) . Frederick , Duke of Saxe-Cobourg and Gotha , was born March 28 , 1785 , and was consequently in his sixty-sixth year . He married the Princess Antoinette de Kohary ; he was a general of cavalry in the Austrian service , and colonel of the 8 th
regiment of hussars . He has left issue four children . The eldest , Prince Ferdinand , is the husband of the Queen of Portugal ; the others are Prince Augustus , husband of the Princess Clementine of Orleans ; the Duchess de Nemours ; and Prince Leopold , major in the late duke ' s hussar regiment . The late duke was brother to the Princess Anna Feodorowna , widow of the Grand Duke Constantine of Russia ; to the King of the Belgians , as above stated ; and to the Duchess of Kent ; alao uncle to the reigning Duke of Saxe-Cobourg and Gotha , and to Prince Albert .
The Times publishes , from a private letter , additional particulars relative to the assassination of Miss Brunet , at a public ball in the theatre of Sm Sebastian : —Now that the festivities are over , the onlysubjfct of conversation is the wretched young man who poniarded Maria Brunet . He is in custody in the fortress of the town . Those who have been acquainted with him speak favourably of his previous conduct . There is no doubt of jealousy being the cause of the crime . It appears he had been attached to the young lady , and no doubt he considered that he was slighted by her or supplanted . On the night of the ball he considered there was no doubt of the fact . He became exasperated , and committed the crime while his victim was in the act of dancing a polka . He stabbed her
twice in the back ; the first blow only grazed her skm , but the second went through the heart . Her death was instantaneous . The act was so sudden that her partner in the dance did not perceive it until she fell at his feet . You may easily judge of the confusion and the horror which it excited . The doors of the saloon were at once closed , lest the assassin should escape . There was no necessity , however , for these precautions ; he presented himself at once , and told the persons present to give themselves no trouble ; that he , and he only , was the person who committed the crime . You will not be astonished that almost all the ladies who were near the victim fainted . The son of the French Consul had presence of mind enough to draw the poniard from the body , but the moment he did
so he fell also senseless . The mother of the young lady uttered the most frantic shrieks , and made desperate efforts to get a sight of her child . She was kept fro 6 doing so by her friends , and was taken home by force , while the bleeding body of the victim was deposited in an apartment close to the ball room , for the inspection of the magistrates . The funeral took place on Sunday . The assassin is a young officer of engineers . It is said that some of his friends wished to furnish him with the means of destroying himself by his own hand to escape a death of infamy , lie has refused , in order , as he says , to die the death of a Christian ; that his life does not belong to him , that he has taken that of another , and that he will leave his to the disposul of
Heaven and of his judges . He expresses an earnest desire that his condemnation shall take place as soon as possible , and eay « that his sufferings are intense , and that he is weary of life . He continued to wear two shirt studs which the young lady had presented him with . He often tears them from his bosom , kisses them , and utters the most frantic expressions of sorrow and reinorHe . He has refused food of any kind , except coarse bread and water , and even thin in the wmallest quantity . The two or three first days he was not per mil led to communicate with any one ; he is now allowed to see some of hi « brother onicera , and those who have been with
him come away weeping . He in only twentyfour years old . Ilia brother ofh ' ceia and chiefs are aoing all they can to have his life saved . At all events his mind is gone ; he has continually before him his victim , with whom he fancies he talks , and his complaints and his moaua bring tears from the eyes of nil who hear him . The hiiiul of death is on him ; if he die not by the hand of the executioner , he will die of grief before long . " He was an only child ; his mother had followed him in all bin changes of garrison except the prcHenl . She idolized him , and all accounts agree that ho wuu 'tin excellent son . What a destiny !
Tho Holemn dedication of ii new Catholic church took place at lLurtlcpool on Friday , in the presence of Cardinal Wiseman , Dr . Hogarth , bishop of Huxhuin ; Dr . DriggH , bishop of JBeverley ; Dr . Brown , biwhop of Shrewsbury ; Dr . Morriu , bishop of Troy ; and a large number of priests from varioutj pluvuu in the neighborhood . The ( . oatitueionalo of the 2 ' 2 nd instant announce * that Megan * . Aldhor .-UHh have been , by order of the Austrian military Commander , delivered up to the judiciary authorities oif Leghorn .
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There is nothing so revolutionary , because there t * nothing so unnatural and convulsive , as the strain tn keep things fixed when all the world is by the very law < S its creation in eternal progress . —Db . Asnols .
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Leader (1850-1860), Aug. 30, 1851, page 820, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/l/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1898/page/8/
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