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few mdiiths 127 families have been evicted Wi then- holdings ; and , allowing five tt each ( a iS ™ dMdS ° ^ A subscription is being made for the distressed Irotestnnt clergy Amongst the eases brought into public notice 13 that of a clergyman whose income was £ 36 < yearly . Of that sum £ Qi was assigned to jay a charge for £ 1 , 000 on the glebe house . His poor rates for the last year were £ 1 G 0 . He had a rent of £ 47 to pay for the glebe , and after paying an insurance he had a balance of £ 41 per annum to support his wife , himself , and seven children . Out-door Relief —State of the Pooh!—Serjeant Howley / in his address to the Thurles Quarter
Sessions , after commenting on the state of the calendar , emphatically asked , "Sow , gentlemen , what is out-door relief ? It has come to my ears , and I Ijelieve your own experience will bear me out , that those who are recipients of that relief are in many cases persons who have no home of their own , and -who are obliged to depend upon the lodgings which they get from others , and for which they must pav J ) v giving the better half of what they receive in outdoor relief ; and thus it is they are tempted by their p overty and suffering to attempt and perpetuate iho « e offences with which they stand charged—for , look at their wan cheeks—the mournful expression of their countenances—their wasted forms—their eyes starting from their sockets—and their limbs
tottering by the slow process of want—look at their jagged garments—their wretched clothing meltin" * off their hacks . Alas , gentlemen , this is a picture which I regret to say , we shall behold in the progress of this session . But , gentlemen , that is no justification , in point of law , as I have said before ' for those persojis receiving out-door relief to attack the property Ofothers . But , in that spirit of justice , mercy , and consideration , in which our laws are administered , I cannot avoid thinking that though J cannot admit the justification , I cannot hut allow the explanation of the cause of those crimes . Those joor people , althoug h they are outside the walls of the workhouse in receipt of their r ations , yet they are obliged to part with a good proportion of them
for the-purpose of giving them shelter at ni ght , and cf guarding them from the inclemency of the treather . But what shelter does it afford them ? Generally a wad of straw , without covering , the warmth of a mud wall , and the shelter of an almost roofless cabin . Ay , and to pay for that shelter they take from their hunger , and they are satisfied with it . But look at them—they are positively naked . Tncy are almost a shame to humanity , and the gaze Of a modest person could not he able to withstand the spectacle , unless it was so prevalent , so common , and such aa everyday occurrence as not to cause any astonishment , or excite wonder . I fear the approaching four or five months will he worse than any that nave passed . Ton may now , gentlemen , retire toyonrroom , andfirstconsideranddispose of the bills in simple larceny cases , because we shall try them first , and the most of them will plead guilty , frf which means we shall the more quickly get them
out of the crowded bridewell , particularly when there 13 pestilence floating In the very motion of the air , and God only knows what the result mi ght be if they had to remain there for any length of time . " PaosrEcrs or the Conxrnr . —There are nearly fourth months of further severe trial and suffering fceforc anything like effectual relief can be expected jroin the harvest ; and , during that long interval , { he resources ofthis unhappy country must be . still fcrther- exhausted , whilst tho ravages of famine will le continued amongst the broken-down peasantry ef ihe south and west . Emigration and evictions are £ 111 continued ; and thus , by voluntary surrender if the larger class of farms , and the forcible expulsion of the cottiers , . the clearance system is in full eperarion . The poor Jaw guardians of the union of Aihy , county of luldare , have allocated £ 1 , 000 for tie purpose of sending out emig rant paupers from tse workhouse—a most useful and salutary species Of emigration . —Morning Chronicle .
Ejiigratioj . - . —The Ttpperary Vindicator contains \ r ± Mowing ;— In thislyear of M 9 the drain is enormous . Every week since Lady-day two or three slip ? have cleared out of Waterford Harbour , each wi : h its human freight of men , women , and children firms the country . Uot less than 2 , 000 have left Ireland from that port alone . From the upper parts cf Tipperary , from the King ' s and Queen ' s Counties , from Carlow and Kilkenny , immense crowds have collected at the stations of the Great Southern and TV ' eMern Railway , taking seats in railway carriages for lie metropolis , from which , or from Liverpool , to take shipping for America . Six and seven shi p loa 3 s of people leave Limerick in a week on the same westward ^ rack . Equally large are the departure ? from Cork , from Londonderry , from Siigo , Calway , and Carrickfenrus . 20 , 000 souls , at the
lowest calculation , have emigrated smce the opening of the season . " The same journal , referring to the mortality amongst the destitute poor , says : — " An estimate of the havoc from this cause may be formed from the fact that from Christmas-day , ' 48 , to Mayday , M 9—apcriod of four months—the deaths in one vorkhousc ( that of Xcnagh union ) amounted to 950 . ! Tht-re are 130 union workhouses in Ireland , and * auxiliaries' innumerable . "Who can say what amount of deaths have occurred in the whole ? Who can sum up the number of the -victims done to death Outride their walls , unrecorded even in the glooniv "pages of the relieving officers' coffin order hobksl-1-liie lot is ghastly—the picture is terrific ; we cannot tract * it farther . " The Cork Examiner states , that * from ninety to one hundred ejectments have been Served on the Midleton estate , since it came into the ! j : os * ession of the present owner . "
BiiiBABOUS £ SD Revoltixg McBDEns . —The Monar \* n . S tandard contains the following : — «« "We have o record the particulars of a double murder , perorated in the county of Monaghan . Theparii-; aiars are as follow : —An old man , named Peter 'J'Coart , lived in a wretched hovel , built in a gully « a mountain water-course , in the townland- ot C'rimifcrncskin , in the barony of Trough and parish if Errigle Trough , in the county of Monaghan . In ie course of a long life of extreme penury he conrived to ' amass a sum of about £ 30 , which , at Ms lentli . he left by will intrust for his niece , Catherine \ l' Court , who had always lived with him , save a few minor legacies to a number of other nephews led nieces , which reduced the portion of Catherine
» a little over £ 20 . Since the death of her uncle , Catlmne -continued to reside in the same hovel , 'spcrieucing the ul-will and jealousy of the other fclanons of her deceased uncle , insomuch that she » ok , to share her loneliness , a poor old woman , J siacd Kitty Trainor , who was aged about sixtyive years . Tbe thirst for money tempted the Earderer , and Catherine M'Court and her aged kinpanioo , Kitty Trainor , were brutally murdered , hid burnt in their cabin , on Tuesday night . It app eared that the murderer , on entering , first seized CatLerine M'Court , and endeavoured to strangle icr with Ms hands , for black , indented marks , as j f a finger and thumb , appear on both sides of the leek , so strongly marked that even an abrasion of
ie skin was the consequence—the right eye proraded from the head , and the face was suffused rith Mood—but it would appear that failing in this lode of murder , too slow for his purpose , he used Mae weapon like a hatchet , with the back of [ hick he smashed the skull of his victim , about an Jek above the centre of the forehead , and inflicted pother wound as if with the cutting side of a atchet behind the left ear , crashing through the fcua into . the brain . The other woman , Trainor , fas shnilarly treated , and had three distinct fracpre ? inthe skull , through one of which the brain founded , and all the wounds bore the chascteristics of having been inflicted b y a similar teapon . Intelligence of the catastrophe reached lonaghan late on Wednesday evening .
Sub-Inspec-* " M'Kelvie set out for the locality , and after a innte investigation , and examination ofpersons , he It iiimself justified in arresting five individuals , I cf whom were relatives of the deceased . Mr . 'fit-hie kept all those in custody until the arrival ( the coroner on Thursday , when an inquest was [ hi , and the following verdict returned : —We find sn Catherine M'Court came by her death , on the t of Mayi IS 49 , in consequence of strangulation P / ractures on the skull , " perpetrated by Peter fKenna and Ellen M'Kenna ; and we find that phfrine Trainor came by her death in consepte of fractures of the skull , and being subsefcul v consumed br burning , perpetrated by the jrosaid PeterM'Kehn a and Ullen M'Kenna . Both poaers were then committed to take their trial
' nrarder /' Sieasge Proceemngs is Cavast . —At Killeshan-1 Petty session on Thursday , the magistrates were ttpied "with charges and counter-charges made by 5 her . "William Sweeny , Presbyterian minister , d the Hev . Walter Irvine , a clergyman of the tebhsned Church , respecting the interment of a * ased member of the Presbyterian congregation , Ike burial ground of the parish church at Sildals - Although due notice was served by the Pres terian numster of his intention to read , the burial ^ ce according to the form of Ms church , the ! r- 3 fr . Irvine attended at the grave , and amidst a ! Ue of great confusion and unseemly recrimina-^ hoth clergymen persisted in going through the
* « services of their-respective -churches . The gistrates dismissed both complaints on account ^ formality in the summonses . Even before the gistrates both clergymen exhibited much , excitejj * . and contradicted each . other . —' . ' - x { he Anglo celt , in a second edition , states that P * er member of the Presbyterian congregation Mnterred in the same churchyard on Friday , Pf * bo rival parties again met in great r ^ rs , and came to blows , but happily no lives E tost That journal says : — " Mr . M'ColIagh , r * nt magistrate , had . a . large police force Pjjj ? Tvho prevented a serious conflict which (^ "se . would have taken place . The police took E * al prisoners .
^ ORDrsiHi Giss ' ov Tobosm . —Considerable ^ on was created yesterday in legal circles in rfinenee of a discovery which took place in the P art ofthe day . From what has transpired it 'STs that ajiative of England , -who has been a
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resident of this city for years , and who belonged to ? »^ ch of the legal profession / in which he en-] oyed both reputation and business , got married some time since to a lady of great respectability "who had a fortune of about £ 1 , 200 . Thissum . it appears , was vested in trustees for the benefit of the lady , and lodged in government security , so as not to be drawn save by trustees . Some days since the gentleman alluded to presented himself at the bank , produced two separate powers of attorney for £ 600 each , both purporting to be witnessed by clergymen , and on these documents he received the money , with wMch he disappeared . Several of the detective corps , and some of the metropolitan polico stationed at tho Bock , near which his country residence was situated , are said tn h * «„ w .
track . —Freeman ' s Journal . The PAPAi . FnxD . _ The sum subscribed in the diocese of Waterfbrd , and a lready received by the Boman Cathoho Bishop , Dr . Foran , towardsi the fund for the Pope , is £ 764 . * \ . - Momut . —Conditio * of Li ! W > ED PBoraiETonslhe CarUnu Sentinel contains a statement-illustrative of the actual condition of two embarrassed proprietors in a neighbouring countv , who , having expended then-last shilling to save the peasantry in tne years 1846—7 , are now themselves irretrievably ruined , owing to circumstances over which they have no control . Their case , according to the Sentinel , is simply this : — " The mortgagees during the last two years enforced the payment to the last far-+ hirif # ftf * U- : ^ l « t _ . ** « , v . i 1 uiiercsi
. - ""• o " , oue to tnem , witn tne arrears ° f 18 & . In tho interim all the ready money available went to pay the poor rate , while not a sMUing of rent was paid to them during a year and a half . Thus , with an unpaid rental—the payment of interest to the mortgagees , and the payment of the poor rate , superadded to the necessary expenditure for the support of their families—they are reduced to all but destitution . Notwithstanding tins state of things the government are laying on more rates on the land , while the overgorged capitalist or mortgagee is exempt from any portion ot the burden . In other cases the owners of property are obliged to purchase the interest of the tenant who emigrates , rather than allow the land to lie waste in the hands of paupers to whom it may be assigned ;
and it follows that the owner is compelled to pay a second time for the fee simple of his estate . ' This is a picture entirely overlooked in the sad condition to which landed property is reduced in Ireland . " SlAlE OF Kerry . —The Cork Reporter contains a report of a meeting of the Tralee hoard of guardians , at which a resolution was adopted which presents a very striking picture of Kerry in the year 1849 , the substance oif which will be found embodied in the subjoined comments of the journal above mentioned "A resolution was passed in reply to a letter from the Poor Law Commissioners , stating that the board bad no funds ; that the weekly collection was barely sufficient to meet each week ' s expenses ; that the board owed £ 8 , 000 to contractors ; that the farmers were daily leaving the country , at least such as had
the means to do so ; that numbers of acres were lying waste ; that the greater portion of the cattle in the union were in the pound for poor rate ; that purchasers could not be found for them , even although cows and horses were sold frequently at from 2 s . fid . to os . each . This is certainly a very deplorable picture , yet it is a true one , and the worst of it is that the state of the Tralee Union is by no means a singular one . "We find by our report from the KUlarney Union that at the meeting of the guardians on Monday between 800 and 900 persons were refused relief in consequence of want of accommodation ! Other unions in the same county
are in a similar condition—every day those who have the means to do so are leaving the country , and nought remains behind but uncultivated acres and rast hordes of paupers . And yet , amidst all this spreading desolation , some landlords arc evicting and driving wretched creatures , that might till the soil , to the poorhouse , where they are either refused-admission , or , being admitted , assist in increasing the burden of an intolerable poor rate . The early summer months are approacMng—the Eeriod during which in Ireland destitution has ever eon most prevalent- "With the position of Kerry aa it is now , who shall say what it will bo in the autumn ?"
Emigration . —The Cork Reporter gives a statement of the number of emigrants that have left that port direct from . the 1 st of January to the 30 th ult ., premising that the account does not include those who proceeded thence to Liverpool and other emigrating ports : —For the quarter ending the 31 st of March , fifteen emigrant vessels sailed , carrying 846 men 572 women , and 357 children—total , l , 775 . From that day to the 13 th of April , eight vessels , containing 135 persons ; from the 13 th of April to the 30 th , eleven vessels , containing 1 , 703 personsmaking a total since the 1 st of January of 3 , 613 men , women , and children .
The Coxvict Miichel . —By the last West-India mail a letter was received by Mitchel ' s family , written just as he was about to take his departure from Bermuda for the Cape . His health continued extremely precarious , he having been then suffering from spasmodic attack , whi = ^ Eistcd , with , scarcely any intermission , for a period of eleven days . His spirits , however , remained unbroken , and , although barely able to write , he looked confidently to the change of climate as the means of restoring him to comparative health and strength . Titesdat . —Thb State Phisoxehs . — Mr . John Martin of Loughorne , for several months a prisoner in Richmond Bridewell , under sentence of transportation for treason felony , is , it appears , at the point of death , and yesterday his medical attendants gave it as their opinion that any further confinement must tend to hasten the crisis . Under the peculiar circumstances it is not improbable that government will oppose an application to admit him to bail . — Times .
"Wednesday . —The Baxkko tt Poor-Law Unions . —The board-rooms of distressed unions , on the occasion of the weekly assemblage of the guardians , resemble the meeting of creditors to prove debts and seek for dividends out of bankrupt estates . Such is the miserable condition of the pauperised and bankrupt unions in the west and south . A vast accumulation of debt—importunate creditors demanding payment of their contracts for food supplied for the thousands of paupers , and exhausted treasuries , which the rate collectors find it impossible to replenish .
State of the "West . —At a meeting yesterday of the General Belief Committee , a letter was read from the Hev . John Gather , Protestant rector of Crossboyne , in the county of Mavo , in the course of which the writer thus describes the condition of the Ballinrobe Union : — " About one-third of our population are on the Poor Law lists , but from the insufficiency of the staff under the vice-guardians , and the irregular supply of meal by the contractors , hundreds of them are often leftfhmishinff , and many deaths , even amongst those whose claims to relief are recognised , occur from this cause . There is , however , another class whose present sufferings excite the greatest pity in us who live amongst them without the power to aid them—I mean the holders of small portions of land , who , as landholders , are disqualified from receiving poor law relief , but whose destitution is now , in manv cases , as great as that of those who have
long been paupers . A large number of them have lately given up their lands , but we have even there a difficulty in obtaining forth m relief , as the landlord opposes unless he also gets possession of the house , that it may be thrown down . Those who still retain their lands have , this spring , usually sold their crop to some better off neighbour , and . bought oats or barley for seed . Of this class very few have any potatoes planted ; there is not onefifth the quantity there was here last year ; but , through the kindness of the Society of Friends , I have been enabled to supply many of them with turnip and carrot seeds . Their state now , however , is one of extreme destitution . Since the cholera has broken out in Ballinrobe workhouse , many hundreds of the inmates have died from it ; they have forfeited relief for the present , and their cases are to be added to those winch I have alluded to , as having no refuge from famine but in the bounty of some such committee as yours . " _ .
The subscriptions now received amount to £ 354 , and the balance in hand is £ 234 . Letters were read from Lord Cloncurry , the Dean of St . Patrick's , Alderman Kinahan , and other gentlemen . . Two sums of £ 10 each were voted for the relief of the destitute in * wo western parishes . , -. - ...:-Archbishop M'Hale has addressed a letter to the Freeman ' s Journal , acknowledg ing the receipt of a number of private subscriptions transmitted to Jum from various parts of the country , mdudingj £ 100 each from Mr . James Fagan , M . P ,, and Mr . It . Devereux , ofWexford ; . . . - ' . " . ¦ ., Mordeb , —On Monday evening the . widow , of Daniel Murphy , of Teerealten , near Macroonv about ekhtyyears of age , was brutally murdered in her , owhhouse ; and several articles belonging to her faken therefrom , including a gold ring with her initials . The supposed perpetrator is a man ot the name of William Murphy , living on the lands , whose brother works with a son of the deceased . After
having been murdered the woman was putjnto her bed , the room door closed , the kitchen door locked , and the key taken away . As nobody lived with her , it was not until the evening of the next day that she was . discovered . -On some very slight suspicion Murphy was arrested , when the ring and several other articles belonging to the deceased were found on his person . . A few minutes beforeheing arrested , when the corpse was discovered , " he went to the house and feigned to cry over the mangled . body of the deceased . Informations were also , lodged against lain and a relative of his named Duggan , for sneepstealing , on the clearest evidence . Duggan ia in custody , and the sheep restored to the owner . Sehherperson nor property can be considered safe in the parish of Kilmichael , wMch is so often the scene of theft and murder , ~ Waste L % ds Ef-XJhsreB . > i-Th 8 Armagh Guardian states that seven townlands , extending- nearly three miles , near Benhurh , are npw totally unoccupied , having beenahandoned by the population ;
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MONDAY , Mat 7 . HOUSE OF LORDS .-This being tho night appointed for the introduction of the Navigation Laws Bill , an exciting debate , the result of which to the last hour was matter of some doubt , drew a great number of strangers to the House of Lords , lhoug h excluded from" the Commons , ladies are admitted to the Upper House , and a large attendance at the bar and at the gallery proved that the privilege was at least appreciated . The members of the House of Commons , though there was an important debate in their own house , thronged the lobby , and at tho foot of the throne a crowd of sons of peers enjoyed the privilcge . accorded to their order . In the body of the House there was a large muster of peers on the opposition side , and sixteen
or seventeen bishops ou the spiritual bench . The appearance of several very unaccustomed faces on the ministerial side proved that the government had made what is technically called " a strong whip , " and the woolsack and cross benches were thronged withpeers of that section , now tolerably strong in the Upper House , which holds the balance between the government and the opposition . The business commenced with the presentation of petitions , of which there were a great number , against an alteration of the Navigation Law . Lord Staxlet presented his petitions with unusual emphasis , and laid great stress on the number of signatures to each , —a point very little regarded by the Tories in debates on the Reform Act , the Corn Law Repeal , and other subjects of popular interest .
About half-past five the clerk at the table having read tho order of the day , The Marquis of Laxsdowne rose to move the second reading of the bill for amending tho navigation laws . He commenced with an historical review of the question , showing that at no period of our history had a navigation act answered the object for which it was intended . The amount and value of English shipping had not increased under a navigation law . But it had increased whenever there was a system of free trade , as was proved by the present state of our commerce with the United States , with Hamburg , and with Russia . But the circumstances which gave us our present maritime advantages at present were by no means certain to continue . At this moment we were carrying on a most successful trade under our trading treaties with other nations . But those treaties mi ght be put an end to . It was necessary to cuard against
such a change . He came down prepared to propose a bold mode of anticipating it . It was a mode which was advocated in our colonies as an act of justice and of the first necessity , In his conscience he believed that a change could be made with perfect safety to our own shipowners . The greatest trading monopolist of the world , Napoleon Bonaparte , had failed before the energies of British commerce . He urged them to rely for the future on the energy which had secured them such success in times past , and he concluded by saying that as the noble lord opposite had stated that he was prepared for the consequences of victory , so ho ( Lord Lansdowne ) would say that on that side of the House they were perfectl y prepared for the consequences of defeat . "When Lord Lansdowxe sat down , Lord Stanley or Lord Colchester was expected to rise to propose the amendment but
, lord Bbopgham , who had been previously flitting about the House in an evident state of anxiety , rose very quickly , and commenced speaking . He had been taunted ( he said ) in a quarter from which , accustomed as he was to unexpected parliamentary evolutions , he owned he was astonished at hearing sarcasm ; he was taunted that ho was backward in putting the capital upon tho column of free trade , and the taunt had come from a quarter from which of all others he should least of all have expected an attack , on the ground of inconsistency . He gloried in having been foremost in the cause of free trade ; but he denied that this navigation question was a question of free trade at all . The noble lord elaborated this point , and made a laboured attempt to prove his own consistency . He then went into a
series of amusing but rambling remarks on statistical returns , which could be made , he said , to show anything by a little process called " cooking the accounts . " ( Laughter . ) Parliamentary blue books and Board of Trade returns he called " cookery books . " He gave great credit , he said , to mfen who " drew on their fancy for their facts , and on thoii recollections for their jokes ; " but he could find no excuse for Mr . Porter , who had made these statistical returns about trade , nor for Mr . Milner Gibson who had set him on . No , he repudiated Board of Trade returns ; he could not swallow them ; be had done with them . ( Cheers and laughter . ) He then proceeded to consider the question , dwelling on its importance to " "the commerce of England . The policv of the navigation act was to
enable a nation hi an insular position to foster a mercantile navy , without which she could never have a maritime navy . "Without both navies we could not preserve our colonies ; and he owned he was not one of those free trade zealots who wished to see England separated from her colonies . It was not as a matter oi glory , but as a matter also of pounds , shillings , and pence , that we should preserve our colonies . They were extensions of our native land , England was limited in extent : limited in respect of variety of production , and therefore it was that our ancestors had planted the British flag under other suus and in other climates . Should they abandon that empire ? Did the nation desire it ? Let them look at the petitions from Liverpool against this bill . Liverpool was
unanimous on the subject : nearly every man of age in Liverpool had signed . These petitioners knew what the consequences of tho bill must be . T ! iey knew that ship building and shipping must suffer in all their branches . It was a great and magnificent branch of business with which they thus were making free , and on which he warned them not to lay a rude hand . The petitioners knew , too , that it would seriously affect seamen ' s wajjes , and that under a system of free trade they would never be able to preserve that in valuable body of men , the British seamen . Four millions of tons of shipping , navigated by 230 , 000 men , was then the stake with which they were playing . Touching everything and grasping nothing , if they went on m this way , he warned them that ruin would result . Heaven forbid that his worst fears should be realised , but ,
looking at the state of Europe , ( of which he took a review , ) there seemed to be a general feeling likely to shake existing institutions and hurl down the thrones which remained . Was this tho time , then , he asked , to make a sweeping and portentous alteration in the system by which our navy was augmented and maintained ? "Was this the time to break up an eternal and inexhaustible nursery for our navy ? Vfas there any occasion for it ? . Kone , but the pressure from without on a ministry which was called "do-nothing" by its supporters . But he had no admiration for the boldness of a minister . who placed not himself , but his country , in jeopardy . He had discharged his duty in offering these opinions . It had been said , if this b'll was rejected , certain consequences would result . No appeal that could possibly be made to him could have so much wei g ht as the possibility shadowed out in that suggestion . Had anything less than the
fate of our merchant service or our navy been involved , to that suggestion he would have bowed subserviently . But when those interests were in the balance , and with them the question of the slave trade , whatever arrangements might be interfered with , as an honest man | as an Englishman , and as a peer of parliament , he felt bound to oppose tho bill . [ The speech was a very animated one , and lasted nearly three hours , in the course of which he travelled over almost every possible subject of public interest , many of which had not the slightest connexion with the question immediately under consideration , and could only have been dragged in " neckand heels" by the eccentric ex-Chancellor , because such an opportunity of delivering himself of his pent-up eloquence might not soon be afforded him again . - He was loudly cheered by the Protectionists as he resumed his seat next to Lord Stanley on the Torv benches . ]
Earl Granville next addressed the-House . He ridiculed the fears of farmers and shipowners who had got up a cry against this bill . He doubted whether farmers knew much upon this subject , and as to other ' > apprehensionists /' . ' - he remarked that the merchants of Liverpool had been tho very parties who most vehemently opposed this bill when Sir Robert Walpole first proposed it . He then gave several illustrations of the illiworkihg of the navigation laws , extracted from the evidence in the reports of the committee . He asked whether the House thoug ht it becoming to begin a hostile , war of tariffs : with other countries "; yet that was our onlv alternative if these navigation laws were not
repealed . He defended the Board of Trade on the subject of its returns ; and warmly eulogised . the abilities of Mr . Porter . He then quoted at much length from those statistical documents , in order to prove that Eng land did compete at the present time with every nation under the sun , and that we had nothing to fear from the repeal of the navigation laws . Tf he could stretch his , imagination to . suppose that the effect of . this measure would be to put out the firo in British steam-boats , . to shut "P ° ur buildau ? vards , and to starve the British seamen , ho should certainly oppose the bill like the noble lord ; hut that it would have a very contrary effect he did not entertain the slightest doubt . -
,.,-Lord Bbouoham , in explanation of his attack on Mr Porter , : remarked that luv was a pubheman , and had given evidence before the committee . Lord Colc hester ; spoke next , but ' the Househad become : inattentive , and he was nearly inaudible fflftfaTreeard to Mr . Porter ' s returns , ho said they wVre no St faWy enoug h drawn -out fo .-the purposes for which thor wm oinUL ^ ut titfagg was in using them for purposes forwhiqhthoy were not intended . ^ The noBle lord craolude ^ i by moving thatthe ; bill be read a secop . * time ., that day bb months . .- ; --- '
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. The question haying been put from the . Woolsack , ,-VI , e ° f Argyll rose from . tho . ministerial side of tho front . cross bench ,. and said this question might be _ considered from three points of view . First , as it was affected by . the abstract principles of free trade ; second , on its own merits ; -and , thirdly , as it aftected the . general position of the country . , He felt convinced that there was a good prima facie ense that we should be able to compete successfull y with the forei gner . Hearrivedatthisconclusiou from his knowled ge of tho energy of the British seaman ' s character , and from a consideration of what had been done under a system , of reciprocity treaties . Thoy must recollect they must inevitably have reciprocity in one way or another—reci procity of restriction or reciprocity of free trade . He
believed the British seaman would flourish under either . The Earl of Ellexborouoh agreed with Lord Broug ham that this question had no connexion with tree trade . He had supported free trade , but he should oppose the repeal 0 f tho navigation laws . He argued that the existing system had answered , and that the present was not the time to diminish in any way the marine of England . Wo remiired 100 , 000 men and 1 , 000 ships to protect us JurS the last war . Smce then we had added greatly to our colonial establishments . We had extended our dominions in the East and in Australia ; and we had , in a spirit of romance rather than policv . formed at great expense , such worthless colonies as Labuan Whilst we required greatl y increased powers !
irance , tne united states , and Russia , had been greatly augmenting their respective navies . Even Naples had formed a steam fleet . We had no means of defence but in our own navy , and this measure went to the extirpation of that service . - ( Cheers ) The noble marquis ( Lansdowne ) appeared to think the question one of no importance . He could always , he said , get Lascars . . " Lascars ! " The idea of manning a British navy with Lascars ! On what ground wore they called on to alter this law ? They were told that they must do so on account of the distresses of the . West Indies . But what did the people , of Antigua say ? "Their poverty , but not their will , consented . " " Struggling for existence against beggary , thoy were obliged , however reluctantly ,. to enter their protest against a law opposed
to . tho all-powerful principles of free trade . " For his own part , however , he neither recognissd West Indians nor Canadians . He regarded them all as members of the great British family , and he thought it right that they should bear their share of any ' indirect burden imposed , as this was ,. for the general good . . He concluded with an attack upon the government for their policy in this and other measures , and a warning against trusting overmuch to wealth . . The Earl of Carlisle moved the adjournment of the debate which was agreed to , and the House adjourned at a quarter past twelve o ' clock . HOUSE . OF ... COMMONS . — Parliamentary Bribes . —Mr . Chartebis said he rose to put to the noble lord at the head of the government the question of which he had given notice ; but , as
considerable misunderstanding existed as to the object he had in view , it being supposed by many , persons that it was directed against some individual member of that House , he begged to say that nothing was further than that from his intention . ( Hear , hear . ) As many persons now present had " not had , perhaps , an opportunity , of directing their attention to the report of the Eastern Counties Kailway Committee of Livestigation to which his questions referred , he . would take the liberty of reading a short extract from it to the House . The extract , taken from the report which appeared hi tho Times newspaper , was . as follows : — " In the investigation of the disbursements under the head of'Parliamentary Expenses' there are several items the . precise character of which your committee could not , arrive at . The items referred to are the , following ' : — . . -
1840 . £ » .- « . April 17 , by Parliamentary , expenses ( a ) , 500 0 ., 0 April 2-1 , ,.. . ' „; ,,.. .:... ( a ) 3 , 000 0- 0 April 28 , ; i „ - „ . ...,. .... ia 2 , 406 17 ' C April 28 ,,. , < „•; , . !; .. . ... ( a ) 1 , 700 0 0 1847 . - .. " .-, •; , ,. ' . - . Juno 25 , by ' ' Extensions ' .. ( b ) 2 , 000 0 0
0 , 600 17 6 . " In reference to the amount of the items marked ( a ) , namely , £ 7 , 606 17 s . 6 d ; , the explanation given to your , committee by Mr . Waddington and Mr . Duncan was , that the sums , as stated , were disbursed by tho company through them , for services rendered , and in a manner ' which did not leave them at liberty to give particulars , as those could not be given without implicating other parties . ' " He regretted to say that it was commonl y reported that those parties were members of the Legislature ; and rumours were very prevalent that tho sums to which he had drawn the attention of the House had been expended in what was called facilitating the passage of bills through Parliament , or , in other
words , and in plain Lnghsh , in bribing members of that Houso . ( Hear , hear . ) He could not believe that any member of that House , had been guilty of conduct so disgraceful and dishonourable , but , as these rumours were prevalent , they must not be passed over without some motico on their part . ( Hear , hear . ) The members of that House could not allow those rumours to go on circulating and poisoning the public ear , and they were bound to institute an inquiry respecting reports which injuriously aft ' ecteuiiot only the character of that House , which ought to be above all suspicion—( hear , hear , ) —but the private honour and character of every member belonging to it . ( Hear , hear . ) Therefore he thought they ought to institute a ri gid inquiry into the circumstances connected with this expenditure . ( Hear , hoar . ) He felt confident that on
inquiry they would find little or no foundation for these rumours ; but if , unfortunately , tho case should turn out differently , they would at lo . ist have the satisfaction of detecting the guilty parties , and of holding them up to the opprobrium of all honest men . ( Hear , hear . ) Ho now asked the First Lord of the Treasury whether . his attention had been drawn to the report which had been recently published by a committee appointed to inquire into the management of the affairs of the Eastern Counties Railway Company , in so far as it affected the general character of that House ? Lord J . Russell agreed with the hon . member that the words from the report of the Eastern Counties Railway Committee of Investigation did tend
to excite a suspicion affecting the character and credit of the House . For his part he did » ot himself pive the slig htest belief to the rumours to which the hon . member had alluded as still more deeply affecting that character ; . but he agreed with the hon . member that it would not bo right to allow those words put forth in the report of a committee of men of known name and character to pass by without inquiry . ( Hear , hear . ) He . did not himself think that there would be any advantage in that inquiry being instituted by a member of the Government ' ; but , if such should be the wish of the House , ho
should not refuse to ask some member of the government to undertake it . His opinion , however , was , that rather than the government , the hon . member , having turned his attention to the subject , and the question being one respecting the individual characters of the members of that House , should conduct the inquiry , assisted as he would be by all the leading persons on both sides of the Houso . '¦ ( Hear , hear . ) Therefore , agreeing with the hon . gentleman as to tho propriety of an inquiry , he trusted that the hon . gentleman , having considered the subject , would take the conduct of the inquiry , and not let It rest till the whole truth was discovered . ( Cheers . )
Mr . Waddixoton did not wish to offer a single remark with a view of preventing any inquiry which might be thought proper ; but , in reference to the paragraph'which had been read , it was right he should inform the House that in what he stated before the committee he hud not alluded to any member of that House —( hear , hear)—and that there was one member , of that committee who was also a member of a committee for . the purpose of bringing about the objects for which the sum in question was expended . Since this report appeared the directors had issued sonie observations upon it , in which they said , " In reference -to an expenditure-of £ 7 , 606 , it was made to bring about important benefits for the company , by assisting , in April , 1846 , the Size-lane
Committee , iormeaior the purpose of carrying out the scheme of amalgamation with the Eastern-Counties and London and York interests , " which had been proposed by Mr . Hudson and received with ' unbounded satisfaction by tho . shareholders ,, and of that committee Mr . W . Cash was a member . Had the objects of the committee succeeded , an enormous amount of expenditure would have been saved . " He ( Mr . / Waddington ) begged to state , as a gentleman , that no member , of that House benefitted , directly oir , indirectl y > to the extent of one shilling , in reference to that £ 7 . 606 . / Hear , hear . )
He was glad of thei . opportunity . ' of publicly contradicting the statement ; and if . while he was present it had been mentioned , in the committee that the inference had . been drawn that any member- of the House had received & single shilling , he should have repelled . it as a base calumnyupon Parliament . ( Cheers . ) , ' ,. Mr . Chabteris was in the hands of the House ; but perhaps . it would : be more satisfactory if an inquiry were to take p lace . ( Loud cries of " Hear , hear . " ) Gathering that to be the general feeling —( hear)—he begged to give notice that on Thursday next he would move for a committee of inquiry . ( Hear , hear . ) .. " ; .- ¦ ¦ ' ¦"¦ - ' ';
pAnuAMEXTAnv Oaths Bill . — On the order of the day for the second reading of this bill , : Sir R . iNoiis opposed the bill , which , professing to alter the Parliamentary oaths , was virtually : and practically a Jew . bill , which had . beenrejected last session by'the . -House' of Lords ; it moreover altered the general COnstitutional ' law of the Land , Whilst it deprived that House of its exclusively .. Christian character . ; Taking this view , 6 f the measuro . his arguments were , as Sir Robert admitted , substantially the same as he had Urged against the bill of
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1847 ; and . he moved ; the , postponement of the second reading for six months . This amendment was seconded by Mr . jor Eeres-? op . d . ¦ Mr . F , Peel , whose rising excited much interest , said " , he wished to be allowed to state the reasons why he voted in f avour of a bill which , under cover of a general measure , would remove a disqualification from our- Jewish fellow-subjects . Sufficient grounds must be laid for withholding from them any privilege which belonged of right to every natural oorn subject of the realm . Almost every office of tl'USt and authority was open to Jews , including- the ri ght of voting at elections ; but there remained this disqualificationthat although constituents
, elected a Jew , and the returning officer returned him , he could not tako his seat in that House . He ( Mr . Peel ) was unable on political grounds to understand the reasons of his exclusion ; and he traced the history . of the oaths of supremacy , allegiance , and abjuration , tho latter alone containing an obstacle to a conscientious Jew . The words , however , were never designed to exclude Jews ; their chief ob j ect was to exclude one great division of professing Christians ; it was , therefore , by a fortuitous , consequence that this oath operated as a bar to Jews , who wore prepared to take tho oath of abjuration if it bound them under a different sanction . In no case was Christianity essential to tho stringency of an oath ; tho words , " on the true
faitn ot a Christian , were purely ceremonial , introduced in order to givo greater solemnity to the pledge , without entering into the nature of the oath . tie did not see how the exclusion of a Jew could be justified who was willing to take the oaths of allegiance and supremacy , and even that of abjuration , if he was allowed to take it according to the form most binding upon his own conscience . Religious differences ought not to constitute the ground of civil disqualifications ; that principle of exclusion had already been surrendered ; and in giving his support to this measure ho was guided by the conciliatory policy of recent times , which was in harmony with the mild s pirit of Christianity , and which recognised the principle that tho privileges
ot the constitution were to bo enjoyed without reference to reli gious opinions . Mr . Peel then examined tho objections to tho measure based on the grounds of expediency and its practical results . Being unable to see any real objection to the measure , _ he followed the course which constitutional principles , the doctrines of Christianity , and the dictates of public policy invited him to take , and voted for the second reading of this bill . Mr . Peel ' maiden speech was listened to , by a very full house , .. with an attention to which it was entitled . A lengthened debate then followed , in the course of which Mr . II . Willyams , Mr . Trelawney , Mr . ItoiuRiEs , the Earl of Arusuel and Surrey , Mr . Sergeant Talfourd , Mr . Faoas , Mr . Milses , and Lord J . Russell addressed the House in favour of the second reading , and Major Bebesfoud , Mr .
Turner , Mr . BERESFonn Hope , Mr . Newdeoate , Mr . Spooxer , Lord Maiiok , Marquis of Granby , Mr . Plumpire , Mr . Bankbs , and Mr . Goulburn supported the amendment . - In . the courso of Mr . Jvbwdeoate's speech an attempt was made to count out the Houso , but it was not successful , there being forty members present . Mr . Roebuck—who had , at the commencement of tbe evening , taken the oaths and his seat for Sheffield—said , the bill , while professing to admit every one was inconsistent with itself , but that was tho natural consequence of the violent opposition which awaited every new attempt at legislation . As the case . at present stood , they attempted to bind tho Jew not according to his own conscience , but according to ft formula of their own . In tho courts of law thev bound him as his own conscience bound
him , but in parliament , because they had an ulterior object , they effected by hypocrisy an object which they had not tho < courago to avow . Why should they Mtcludethe JeSv from parliament t They ate with him , drank with him , dealt with him , and to-morrow , when the marriage bill came to bo discussed , they would most probably hear the hon . baronet , the member for Oxford University , quote the Jew as a lawgiver . ( Cheers . ) lie appealed to the common sense of the House and the country , and asked them what there was in the man or men who believed in tho great decalogue which should prevent his being a legislator . The Jews had been called aliens , but they were no aliens—they wcro Englishmen professing the Jewish relig ion . They were honourable men ; and being but small flics , they were caught in the meshes from which the large flies escaped . ( Hear , hear . ) Ho could suppose a man who had no
religion at all coming to that table , and looking upon their whole paraphernalia as a matter of indifference , ' laying his hand upon the book as if it were so much wasto paper , and curling his lip while he uttered the words prescribed . They could not eatch such a man , although they caught the conscientious Jew . ( Hear . ) lie ( Mr . Roebuck ) voted for this bill , not because it contained an oath , but because it was a V & laxation . He consented to proceed stop by step , because lie believed that that was the mode most acceptable to the people of England . Thoy were willing , as experience taught them , to proceed step by step , while , if any one proposed a comprehensive measure at once , ho was looked upon as a schemer or a dreamer . Therefore lie accepted tho noble lord ' s course , which he thought was a wise one ; and in the namo of common sense he asked the House to consent to the passing of this bill . ¦
After a few words in explanation from Mr . GoulbcRN , the House divided . For the second reading 278 Against it 185-93 The bill was then read a second time . A conversation followed on tho business of tho House for Tuesday , after which the question of the second reading of the Lunatic Asylum ( Scotland ) Bill led to a division , Mr . P . Mackenzie moving the adjournment of tho House , which proposition was negatived by a majority of 45 , the numbers 24 to 69 , and the bill was read a second time . A discussion on the question of the second readine of the Public Health ( Scotland ) Bill , led to a second division for adjournment , which was negatived by a majority of 4-1 , the numbers 19 to 03 , when Mr . F . Mackenzie objecting to the principle of the bill , on the ground that tho area of taxation was not sufficiently defined , tho second reading was postponed till Tuesday , and tho House adjourned at one o ' clock .
TUESDAY , May 8 . HOUSE OF LORDS . —The excitement was not so great at the sitting of the House as on the previous day , but soon after the dinner hour , ladies in considerable numbers began to grace tho gallery by their appearance , many of whom remained until their lordships' carriages were called . . Agricultural Distress . —Earl Grey asked the Dukcof Richmond to postpone his motion on agricultural distress , which stood for Friday , in consequence of the second reading of the Rate-in-Aid Bill being fixed for that day . The Duke of Richmond was anxious to bring the subject of agricultural distress forward as early as possible , in order to see if something could not be
done to relieve tho great body of tenant farmers . Hundreds of tho best agricultural labourers were thrown out of employment , and more would follow unless something was afconco done to relieve tho distress which prevailed in ' tho agricultural districts . He had no objection to postpone the subject until an early day in the next week , but not for a longer period . Navigation Laws . —Tho Earl of Carlisle , in resuming the debate expressed his regret at finding himself under the necessity of opposing many , longcherished feelings ; and running counter to many deep and serious prepossessions winch had long prevailed in their lordships' House , but he should find some consolation in the conviction that tho . policy , to which he could add but a feeble support , was likely
to produce Sir more general good and promote a more wide-spread interest than existed in any single class of the community , however united and however powerful . The noblo earl then proceeded to reply to the observations of the Earl of Ellenborough of the previous evening , and quoted largely from documentary evidence with the view of skowiag the countless ways in which the navigation laws obstructed and ' impeded the operations of British trade in every part of the globe—in' fact , that they seemed to be an ingenious invention by which every description of goods wore made to pay double freight and to engender' ill feeling and animosity between nations . After referring to the ' ship building
question , and the operation . of the bur . with ; respect to the maritime navy , as a source from whence the efficiency of iho navy roust be derived , concluded by stating that he had no fears on the latter head , neither had hoas regarded , tho national defences . On the contrary ; in his opinion the effect of the measure would be to give increased employment to seamen and infuso invigoration into the trade , manufactures , and commerce' of Great Britain , by which results the best guarantee would bo found for the permanence of the national defences-defences which had hitherto been sufficicntto render England the mistress of the seas , and . by the blessing of God , would long continue to maintain her , in that
> Earl Nelson referred to the opinions of his illustrious ancestor , in reference to the navigation laws , and whose . conauct - in maintaining them had subipptod him to trial by court-martial m , the ; West K ^& kSM those who hadthe interest , of Br counfry at heart to oppose tho measure ; »» + wt « + ri « ttothe experience of the past , than S ^ o 1 Sti &« S » . *«»* on impWable Sd SS theories ,, for the prospects of the fU Farl Talbot , tha Earl of Harrowbt , Earl Waldb-GRivE , and the Marquis of Lon » om » brrt opposed th |^ roStHABWtiwi ''" gaVe- ; it a modiaed support , audit was also supported by Earl Bruce .- ; ; -JV ' ^ The Marquis of Londonobrby , : in the course of his speech , made an " onslaught on the foieign policy of Lord Palmerstdh ; and was understood to express the opinion that fc w » a the duty of every peer of
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parliament who valued tho preservation of the ' peace Of liliropo and oi" the once prospermia institutions of the empire , to press for the removal of the P . in-i-n Secretary from the position ho occupied in her Majesty s government . EarlGnKv srtid . thatgro . it as his confidence was in the merits of the Question before the House , it had been . increased by the result of the debate , the character of which , as conducted by noble lords opposite , he described as irrelevant , v .-m-uc , and unsatisfactory . If there was one interest In the country more likely to derive advantage from tho successor " the present measure , it was in his opinion , the commercial marine . ' They had , therefore , a riwht to expect from the noble lords opposite that tnev would point out in what respect tbe fragments of the navigation laws which still survived had
protected British shipping from that competition which they so much dreaded . The same arguments which had been relied on in the present debate were relied upon in tho time of Mr . Iluskisson , and in tli 6 fir . it year of his entrance into Parliament lie-had heard them utterly demolished by that distinguish ! - *! statesman . Tlic Kritiah shipping was deeply interested in getting rid of the ^ e capricious restrictions with the least possible delay . If tho barbarous and disgraceful principles of monopoly on ' which thy navigation laws ' were founded were adopted by foreign nations to the same extent as by themselves , the warehousing system would be at an end , wA the numerous classes dependent thereon would be involved in ruin . He pointed out a number of facts to show that tho navigation Jaws were the main difficulty in the way of their mercantile marine in competing at present with the Americans . TJio strong part of tho case , however , in favour of the present measure was the bearing of tho existing re *
strictions upon the colonial interest . In illustrating this , tho noble lord confined himself principally to Canada , but made a passing allusion to Australia and the West Indies . If the restrictions of tho navigation laws were not preserved for the purpose of raising freights , what were they for ? He contended that reduced freights were a gain to tho shipowner , just as reduced cost in the production of the articles sold by him was a great gain to ¦ tho trader . He declared , with reference to Canada , that a return to protection was impracticable ; and ho was entitled to assume this , as the noble lord opposite and those who acted with him had never lifted ' a finger to obtain it , however much it might be desired by them . His lordship concluded his reference to Canada by an expression of his strong and decided opinion that tho relaxation of the navigation laws on their behalf was a measure dictated by policy and prudence , and that if the House refused to sanction the bill before them , it would give a stab to the relations of this countrv with its North
American colonies which it would not soon recover from . The noble lord then reviewed the manner in which the navigation laws had been applied in America , from the time of Cromwell downwards . Ho said that for more than a century they had remained practically a dead letter , and that in attempting to enforce them the separation of America had been the result . These things were written for our instruction , if we only toot . waYnragby it . If , unfortunately , tho result of the debate was different from what he confidently anticipated , that would be a bold man in his opinion who , in the f ace of such a result , had to encounter the dangers and difficulties by which their colonial government would then be surrounded . He asked their lordships whether ho was not justified in statin ? , that
tho resistance to this measure on . the part of the petitioners was not meant as a first step backward in tho commercial policy which their lordships adopted in 1846 ? ( Hear , ) It was not intended to stand by itself—it was merely tho first preliminary step in the attempt of what was called re-action . Indeed , at least two noble lords opposite did not disguise that such was their \ iew of the subject , they did not hesitate to tell tho House that they believed there was a great re-action in the country . ( "Hear , hear " from a noblo lord on the opposition benches . ) Yes , the noble carl avowed his belief that there was ¦ a re-action in public . opinion , and he called upon their lordships to throw out the bill as a first step to the adoption of a policy in accordance with that 2-e-action . Ife ( Earl Grovl asked their lordships to
pauso before they determined to give their sanction to an attempt , to establish that policy of re-action . ( Hear , hear . ) Ho advised them to consider well the effects which might result from that attempt . He was not afraid they could succeed in reimposing tho corn laws . He had not tho smallest , the most distant , tho faintest , apprehension "that thoy could succeed in it . That which some noble lords mistook for the apathy of public opinion , was not apathy , but a well-founded confidence in tho minds of the people of this country that a stop of that kind once taken could never be retraced . - ( Cheers and counter cheers . ) The tide of human improvement was steadily and surely progressing ; and when an opinion which for centuries had been admitted by the soundest philoso *
pher in the closet had at last , after a lengthened struggle , so far succeeded s \ gn \ r-st prejudices , passions and interests , as to become embodied practically in the statute ' book , it was in vain to hop & that such a step could be retraced . ( Hear , hear . ) As well might noblo lords suppose that because the tide ran back under their walls , the water of that great river would return to tho source from which it had descended , as to suppose that public opinion would roll back upon this question . The corn laws were settled for ever . ( Cheers . ) But , although perfectly confident that this was the ease , he did not loss apprehend very serious evils from the reopening of the question . He asked their lordships to consider whether it was not full of danger to the best interests of the country again to raise the
agitation which they had witnessed upon this subject ? Did their lordships remember the machinery of that agitation ? He begged to point , in the first place , to the effect ofthis course upon the interests of . those whose benefit they professed to have at heart . Look at its effect on the interest of land . Did their lordships not foresee , that if they began an agitation for tho restoration of protection — if they " began to inculcate upon the minds of the farmers that protection was necessary for the successful prosecution of their business , —they were taking a course which must have the effect of depressing the value of landed property both as to selling and letting ? ( Hear , hear . ) The agricultural interest was suffering from that at this moment . ( Hear . ) There was nothing in the present
crisis to justify tho panic which had arisen , the average price of wheat was 40 s . 2-fie average price under a system of protection had boon 33 s . So that there was nothing in the fact of there being a low average of price for a time to justify the panic from which the agriculturists were suffering . ( Hear . ) But would their lordships aggravate that panic ? did they think there was no danger in the present state of Europe in again setting class against class ? Or again calling into activity all the machinery of the anti-corn law and pro-corn law league ? — and in keeping up an agitation upon" the exciting subject of the food of the people ? ( Hear . ) Were they so blind as not to know that among the ostensible advocates for a repeal of the corn laws were too many persons who wove exceedingly sorry at the
early success of that measure—that there were too many who wished to maintain the machinery of that agitation for ulterior , and , as he ( Lord Grey ) believed , most dangerous objects ? Were their lordships going to play into ' the hands of those parties ,-and enable them to set ' up again the machinery of that agitation for those most dangerous purposes to which ho had adverted ? He trusted they were not . Was there not another danger ? " Did they not fear that if they . got up the cry of " protection . '" the tenantry might turn round upon them ahd sav that it was not protection but something else they wanted ; that they would no longer trust to the gentry under whose guidance theyhad formerly acted , but that they would act for themselves , set vm a new ttn . 2 , and adopt a movo
dangerous cry ? Were their lordships prepared to run the risk of inflaming the minds of the tenantry with 'dangerous and exciting topics ? . Were they prepared to expose the best and most vital interests of the country at this moment to . the incalculable hazard of a new agitation ? He trusted they were not . ( Cheers . ) It was true tho noble lord opposite ( Lord Stanley ) told them the other night t & look to none of the risks , to look to none- of the dangers , but to consider only the measure before them , and to throw it out without fear and without scruple . This was most characteristic- advice .. ( Hear , hear . ) The noblelord was indeed a daring pilot in extremity . When the waves ran high lie sought the storm . The noble lord might seek the storm , but he trusted their lordships , were not prepared to
follow his example . ( Cheers . ) He- trusted they would exercise their sober judgment , and would consider the hearing of their decision , that ni « hthofc only unon ; the immediate laws under review , but upon the general interests of the country . _ He was convinced that pubiic affairs were not with their lordships . merely ¦ an exciting intellectual sort'of game , carried on ia the spirit of a horse race cr prixe fi g ht ; but that their lordships regarded thsra rather as imposing upon them the highest and most solemn sesponsibility . ' ( Hear , hear . ) Ia this' spirit h » was confident they would take into consideration all tho circumstances to- which ho ' had ; adverted , and if thoy did so , ho felt no doubt whatever as to what would he their-djJoision » ( Loudcheors . )
Lord Stanley said , that m rising to address the House at that late hour ( a quarter past one o ' clock ) they might rely upon it he would not go , back , w the noble marquis ( Lansdowhe ) : had done , to ' tha days of Bichara II . ; nor would ho go hack , as ths noble earl ( Grey ) had done , to the days of Kandol ph and his iargo famil y ; - ( Laughter . ) Those -Breto days thoy weroriot likely togoe again , when , i » the language used by the noWe ear ] , the coloniea were "damnably rich . " ( Cheers , )/ ' He would , " not } 9 tempted to follow the noble , earl into the digression with which hc'hadeoncluded- his'spwh , and on which he was not surprised tohear him enter , ' becausa be was aware it jaigbtbe aSwaWe . W W
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