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Ferkuaby 19, 1848. The Northern Star, 7
Ferkuaby 19 , 1848 . THE NORTHERN STAR , 7
Cuimttal Ait0 Ifomsn,
Cuimttal ait 0 iFomsn ,
France. Ihe Eef0rm Movehest—Excitikg Sce...
FRANCE . IHE EEF 0 RM MOVEHEST—EXCITIKG SCEKXS IX THE CHAMBER OF DErtTTIES—GREAT agitatiok . The debate on the last paragraph of the address , which condemns the Reform dinners , produced on Wednesday a tremendous nproar . The intemperate Keeper of the Seals , M . Hebert . was suffered to inveigh , at great length , against the banquets and their dangerous tendency , and to uphold the Government ' s right to put a stop to them , In language ill-suited to the gravity of a Minister of Justice . A repl y was returned byM . Feuilhnde-Chauvin , a member of a hieh court of justice ; and a still abler one by M . Ledru Rollin , a Radical lawyer , both of them contending that the law of 1791 could
not be enforced under present circumstance . " . These opinions so enraged M . Ilebert , ihai he woild re-aso ? nd the tribune , although MM . Gu zitand Duehatel seemed by their looks to implore his silence . The Keeper of the Seals reiterated his arguments in support of the government ' s neat , and , despite many an angry interruption , wrathfully said to the Opposition : — ' I reppat ii , what you have bit & erto done has been done despite the law , and yen shall do it no more . Such is our will . ' The ministerial maiority applauded , and the storm arose . M . Odillon Barrot cried : —' Polignao and Peyronnet were more constitutional than yon , ' and the whole Gauche stood up . repeating the sarae words , and ntterins many far more offensive apostrophes We shall n"w
qaote one of the reports hafore us : — ' A tumuhe inexprimallc ensued . The Centres raised a kurlcmcnt effroyatt ? ; the whole Gauche returned the most vio Ient esclimatiop . 3 . and it was soon impossible to distinguish anything amidst this fstraordinarv confusion of vociferations , stamnin ? , and challen ?©* offered and ntamed : in all directions were to be s- ? en fLjhtinsattitudes , extended arms , men standipg , fists rsked . threatening accents , the whole accompanied with the thundering of human voices , the irritated and deafening noise nf which shook every part of the amphitheatre . ' During this part of the uproar , M . Hebert , the highest personage in French law , sto ^ d up ? ale , his inn crossed , fixing in a most warlike style M . Odillon Barrot . who contemptHouslv , hut calmly , awaited the explosion of his wrath
The Minister of Justice at length obtained some atteEtion , and after bitterly complaining of bavins been comoarcd with the Prince de Polienac and Count de Peyronnet , declared that he should execute the law with severity against all such as should attempt to violate it . The clamour was reviving , when M- Odillon Barrot , spurnins the threat , maintained the justice of his 'apostrophe , ' and said , 'I call on you to hear me , and to weiah well my words . Minuter * of the Revolution of July , you violate a law respected even by the Resioration at the Terr moment , of its fall . 1 Jell van that you do not resnect even , * h ? . t was respected by Polignac' He was here greeted by a still creater uproar , amidst which the Oapssition retired , refusing to vote , and the sitting of the Chamber was tumultuouslv closed .
_ On Thnrsday , although the commencement of the sitting appeared to promise a more calm consideration of tha question than it received in the stormy discussions of the two previous days , the close was the most tumultuous that has been known in the Chamber since the celebrated exnulsion of M . Manuel , and the affair of the Abbe Grepnire . Exclusive of the interest attached to creat uproar and violence , there was very little worth recording in the discus = ; on of Thursday , with the exception of the speeches of M . Gniz-. t . If . Thiers , and M . Odillon Barm- — speeches which occupy but little space on paper , but which occupied a Ion ? time in the delivery , in consequence of the continued interruptions and clamours of the members .
On Fridiy the debate was resumed by M . Des-EO"sseans de Givre who proposed a ' new amendment , tending to omit altogether the offensive words of ' blind nnd hostile passions , ' in the paragraph against the reform banquets . Connt' de Morny followed , maintainine the right of the majority to express an opinion In the address on acts which had taken place in the interval betwe ? n the sessions , particularly when they were of an unconstitutional character . M . deLamartine then ascended the tribune , and in a spirited piece of declamation maintain ' d the perfect right of the Oppos tion members 83 well as of all other citi zens , to meet in reform banquets or elsewhere , to discuss such matters as might appear to them important . Tbe two
Chambers , he observed , ware not to exercise a monopoly of discussion ; to meet peaceably and consider political qnestion * , was the inalienable right of all . ho doubt an agitation had taken place since the preceding session , but it was of a fair { honnete ) and salutary character , and in place of being brairded with reprobation , ought to be enennrgaged . ( This declaration of the honourable deputy was reecived with thunders of apnlause from the * Left , and the loudest possible marks of disapprobation from the Centres . ) Forsooth , hesaid . it was a sreat phenomenon to find citizens comins together to discuss the conduct of the government ! The country had been ElO ' it patient , and it was not until the system of the rev . lotion nf July iad been changed by the government , that the masses had stirred . Finding
corruption rife in all the ministerial ranks , they bad at last met to c nsider what was to be done , and they bad donewell- Heconclnded by warning the ministry that no government had ever used forcible means against their political adversaries , that it did not itself soon after suffer for its conduct . M . Vitet . the reporter , then gave some explanations as to the views of the comm'ttce in drawing up the paragraph . ^ M . 0 . Barror protested most energetically against the raajrrity to judge the minority . M . F . de Lasteyrie sco » e against , and M . de Remtrsai advocated the right of the masses te meet . M . Dachatel , the Minister oi the Interior replied , and after a stormy discussion , the division was taken : — Against the amendment 22 S For it 185
Majority for Ministers , 43 Immediately afterwards there was a division upon the original clause as drawn np by tbe coromittee . Upon this occasion the Opposition abstained from voting , and the numbers were— . For the clause 223 Against it 18 Majority 205 In thesecrnd division the policy of the Opposition la declining to vote was very nearly successful . By a rule of the French Chambers a vote is null unless an absolute majoritv of the whole number of mem
bers of which the Chamber is composed ( 45 S ) take part in the vote . It is , therefore , necessary that 230 should vote ; but the whole of the Opposition members bavin ? withdrawn , there were only 223 Conservatives left who were willing to support the cabinet . The position was an embarrassing one ; but it was at length got over by eighteen of the thirty Conservatives who refused to vote in favour of the Ministry , consenting , at M , Guiz ^ t ' s special request , to vote against him . Not a single Opposition member voted ill the second division , and the whole ef those who took part in it , whether for or against the clause , were Conservatives .
On Saturday the discussion opened with another amendment proposed by M . Sallandrouze , expressive en the part of the Chamber of a desire that the government should be conducted in conformity with that spirit of reform aad progress which so peculiarly characterises the present epocht This amendment was supported by a considerable number of the Deputies of the Conservative party , but opposed by the government . The Chamber " divided at half-past Seven , when it appeared that the ministerial majority had dwindled down to tbir y-three . The total number sf deputies present was 411 . Of these 222 opposed , and 189 supported tbe amendment . Thus seventeen votes ia a house of 411 would have turned the scale against the Government .
The real interest of the debate was in the speech of M . GuiEot , whose explanation as to the course to Ib pursued by the government was looked forward to with great interest . The substance of his speech was as follows : He declared that for the present session the government would do nothing and that it would not hold out any promise fer the foture . All that the government would do was this—it would use all its efforts to satisfy the Conservative party ; and in tbe interest of the Conservative party alone—for he cared for no other—he would endea-Tour to make a private compromise with the
different fractions of which that party is composed , which would satisfy all of them . In order to satisfy ; the Conservative reformers , he hinted that he might , perhaps , carry reforms which he had hitherto opposed ; and after makisg the equivocal promise that * the question should be carefully examined during the present parliament , ' hetconcluded by declaring that if the arrangement among the Conservatives , to which he previously alladed , were not successful , ' the Cabinet would leave to others the care of presiding over the disorganisation of the party , and the ruin of its policy . ' , . . .
The entire ado'fess was afterwards adopted by 241 to 3 , the Opposition having abstained from Toting . Ia the Times , of Monday , the Paris correspondent of that paper has the following remarks : — 'It is true that np to the present moment the public—the lower orders of the people especially—have taken very little interest in the alarming debates oi the last five days ia the Chamber of Deputies ; but it must not be thence inferred tbat they are indifferent ta what is passing . They have been told , and they fcave brought their minds to the conclusion , that they
have been defrauded of the fruits of the revolution . They deem talking on the subject puerile , and they bide their time . They wait with astonishing eungfroid an apropos , or an accident , for reconstructing the gevernment en Heaven knows what principle . The government is , on the other hand , preparedat least preparing—for this dernier restart . The detached forts so ardently longed for by tbe Court , are capable of being in a few hours put into a condition t < 3 attain tke end for Tihich they have been created , namely , to prevent ingress to or egress from Paris—01 the actual bombardment of the city never * jlj
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take place under any circumstances . The government is moreover provided with a fine army in Paris —includinga corps d ' elite , railed the ' Municipal Guard , ' and the people are disarmed . Every barrick and military post has been for the last three days abundantly supplied with ball cartrid ge . To make head against such a force , and such means would appear impossible . A portion of the National Guard might y concur in an insurrection , but could not stand arainst the array , if the army would act against them . The detached forts could , as I have said , if they be intended for anything more than nlacea of refuge , prevent the entrance of provisions into the capital , and thus the malcontents of Paris would appear incapable of attacking the
government with effect , and sure to be reduced to obedience by famine . Such , in the most favourablepoint of view , appears the position of the government . An insurrection in the face of such preparation would be insanity , but very mad things are possible with this extraordinary people . The government seem determined , and appear to have the power to carry through with the strong hand , but the continuance of tranquillity will not depend upon the intimidation of the people . Never was there in this world a nation more reckless of consequences , !! * once excited , than the French . Accident might upset all the calculations and crumble into atoms the whole fabric raised with so much labour by the government . The
blow of a sabre given to a poor old mnn by the Prince de Lambesc , on the 12 th of July , 1 TS 9 , caused—not the revolution , for that was inevitable—but the explosion of the inflimraable matter so long pent up , and so abundantly accumulated . Anofher accident —the ordinances of Charles X ., thirty years later , revolutionised France ones more . The actual government is strong in men , and arms , and stores . Is it beloved ? The people are , up to the present moment , Indisposed to a new tffort , and are disarmed . Are they incapable ? No ! If really on foot they would be again irresistible . What would produce such a result ? Any one of 10 , 000 possible accidents' '
The Opposition , emboldened by their display of numbers on the recent division , have determined to brave the menace of government and hold a Reform meeting in Paris . Upwards of one hundred deputies met on Sunday in the Place Madeleine , and agreed upon the terms of a Manistesto . which they published in the journals of Monday . This document declares tbat the recent ministerial address constitutes a flagrant and audacious violation of the rights of the 6 V unties , that it infringes the sacred principles of the constitution , that it violates through the deputies , tha < B 3 ? ntial rights of the citizens , and is calculated to spread disorder through the country . The Opposition declare their determination to combat what they regard as a counter-revolution , and todefnnd by all le-ral means the rights of meeting assailed by
minister ? . A committee of deputies was appointed to carry out those viewa of the meeting ; a protest was recorded against the arbitrary acts of the government ; and it was further resolved unanimously that no member should consent to join the Deputation of Address to the Tuileries . Themayorsnf arrondi ? sements , in Paris , whobelong f o the Opposition signified their intended resignation if government insisted in obstructing the Reform meeting . Another sign of the times has to be mentioned . On Sunday , sixty officers of the National Guard sent an address to the Opposition deputies , in which tb ? y offer their services as an escort to the Re orm banquet , and as a guard against any obstruction to the fulfilment of the intended demonstration .
General Jacqueminot , having called together the colonels of the National Guards of Paris , and questioned them as to the spirit which prevailed in their respective legions , received answers not calculated to reassure a cabinet which contemplated means of armed repression . It is alsosaid that General Sebastian ! had taken similar steps in relation to the superior officers of the garrison of the capital , whose answers brought no other assurance than that theline would support the National Guard , but that any independent action , in case of a popular movement , could not be relied on . It is positively stated that government has caused to be deposited in thebarracks , arid especiallyin those of the lltharrondisseraent , munitions and rations for eight days , and also axes and other implements , as if for an approaching action .
In Tuesday ' s Times the correspondent of that paper says : — ' It is certain that the great Reform banquet will take place on Thursday or on Sunday next . The Opposition National Guards will be present , but with side arms only , for they cannot legally appear in arms unless when summoned by their chiefs . The government aro resolved at this moment to prevent the banquet . Their means for enforcing submission to their will are immense . The army in Paris and its environs is numerically equal to the National Guard . Every barrack , every post , every guard-house ef the hundred that are in the capital is fortified and safe from a coup di main , . The officers of the staff are stud ying the plan laid down by Marshal Gerard for resistance to a revolt . Every military post in Paris , and every one of the forts that surround and command it , is gorged with ammunition .
The Patrie says : — ' Several journals have spoken within the last few days of mysterious arrests effected in the different parts of tha capital . Peaceful forei gners , long established in Paris , have teen violently torn from their residences during the nighttime , confined in the Conciargerie , and then sent out of France under the escort of the police , without time being allowed them to make any preliminary arrangements , er to regulate their affairs compromised by this sudden departure . Thepersonswhohavebeen victims of these arbitrary acts are all Germans ; one of them , as already stated , is M . Engels , known in the learned world by his remarkable work on the situation of the working classes of Great Britain , published at Leipsic in 1847 . M . Engels , son of a richmannfacturer of Barmen , nearElberfield , employing 700 or 800 workmen . was , for two years , domiciled at Pari ? , in the Ren Neuve Saint Martin , and be received monthly from his father a pension more than sufficient to assure him a comfortable and
independent existence . A distinguished painter , M . , of Cologne , has als * been arrested and expelled , as welj as some inoffensive workmen , remarkable for their calm and laborious habits- The following is the crime of the persons arrested . The evening before the New Year ' s Day , about a hundred Germans established at Paris , and for the most part workmen , met together at a restaurateur ' s . It had been agreed beforehand that all political discussion should be abstained from—a proof of the perfectly peaceful spirit which actuated this kind of family meeting . At the dessert , M . Engels , who was one of the guests , addressed to his countrvmen some remarks in German .
in which there might , if rigorously considered , be found political allusions , but he stopped when the circimstance was remarked to him , and the banquet finished without the slightest tumult . It was on account of this incident , so unimportant in itself , that six weeks afterwards several of these foreigners were arbitrarily arrested , and deprived of the hospitality which they had found on the French soil . ' On Monday evening , at sine o ' clock , tha grand deputation of the Chamber of Deputies charged with the presentation of the address in reply to the speech frem the throne , was received by the King . The usual hnmtm ? was gone through , the members of the loyal ' majority' shouting 'Vive le Roi !'
The Paris news of Wednesday says , continued agitation prevails respecting the reform question , and the right of the public to meet for its discussion . The difficulty experienced of finding a building large enough to hold the guests expected at the great reform dinner on Sunday , has been solved by the projecting of a temporary building , which is being erected in the Champs Elysees . There appears every determination to hold the festival , in spite of the opposition of the ministry .
ITALY . PROGRESS OF BEPOHM . News from Palermo to the 3 rd represents that the king had granted to Sicily the constitution of 1812 , which had been accepted by the insurgents , on the condition that the Prince Royal ( now twelve years old ) should reside at Palermo as viceroy , a regency being established until he shall attain his majority , and a separate parliament to be established at Palermo . An amnesty was proclaimed , from which , however , were excepted the emigrants of 1821 . All the fortifications of Sicily were surrendered to the insurgents , and all the troops bad returned to Naples . The most perfect tranquillity continued at Naples . From Turin we learn that Charles Albeit has granted a constitution to his subjects . The principles on which it is founded are nearly those of the the French charter .
The Augsburg Gazette says : ten arrests have been made at Milan of persons moving in the higher ranks , and that important papers have been discovered . The Reforms contains the following accounts from Italy ;—• Jn a village in the environs of Milan one hundred and seventeen horses of the Imperial Artillery have been poisoned . The perpetrators of this act have not as jet been discovered . The rumour becomes more and more confirmed , that General Ra > deirky has demanded of Charles Albert to occupy Al"S . « andria . According to the terms of the treaties of 1815 , this town ought , it is said , to be guarded by Austrian troops whenever there exists a probability of war in Italy . The Rbfobhe states that Charles Albert replied ' that treaties were made with pens , but that towns and fortresses were taken with arms .
Letters from Verona announce the arrest of Count Emilei during the nighttime , bis crime being that of having transmitted to Milan the money collected at Verena for the wounded and maimed of the 3 rd ultimo . He has been transferred to the fortress of Le * nago . Intelligence from Italy states that Lord Minto had arrived at Naples on the 8 th . A British steamer , arrived at Cirita Vecchia en the 1 st , brought the intelligence that , in consequen . ee of a popular movement , Messina had been bombarded on the 29 : h , by the garrison , whickbad . been shut up in the citadel ,
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The news from Palermo is to tho 5 th . The con . stitutionand amnesty had arrived there on theJrd-Ifc was recited publicly by the provisional government . It declares that Sicily always had a constitution , but which had been illegally suspended ; that it was modified and sanctioned in 1812 , and in 1810 ; and that this constitution be admitted , and that the parliament- be held at Palermo . Tho provisions government of Palermo is declared to be that oi all Sicily . It is systematically organised .
GERMANY . Accounts from Silesia continue to represent the distress in some parts of the country as really awful ; and if the description of such dreadful , scenes can be relied upon , the distress and want in that country surpass by far anything ever experienced in Ireland . A Revolutionary , row in Bavaria —A little revolution commenced by a students' row , has . taken place at Munich . Lola M ? ntes has closed her brilliant and noisy career on the political stage of Bavaria . Her exit has been as precipitate as her entrance . She had made a little party amongst thestudents of the University . They were soon marked for insult and attack . Hearing some of them were in peril , she boldly ventured in nerson to the rescue , was herself insulted , was
rescued by the king , but was , nevertheless , outrageously treated , and only saved by being received with , in the gates of the palace . A royal decree punished the students by closing the university for a year . This harsh step brought the protest and remonstrance of the chief authorities . Crowds assembled around the palace . The students and their friends were , of course , violent , as well as the citizens , who were threatened with loss by the closing of the university . Some conflicts took place between the crowd and the military . Bat the latter positively refu sed to fire upon their fellow . citizens , or to employ harsh means of repression . Tbe monarch then went to address his people from the balcony of the palace ; but his reception was a blow from a stonp , which so shocked the royal family , and humbled Louis , that he j reluctantly issued a decree , exiling the obnoxious Countess of Landsfeld . Another account states
that the night of Lola Montes was so precipitate that she had not a moment to prepare for it . Her house was completely sacked by the insurgent student ? .
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FACTORY LEGISLATION . TO THE EDITOR OF THB HORSING TOST . Sir—My attention having been directed to an article on Factory Legislation , ' in the Economist of tbe 8 th instant , on my return from a visit to the manufacturing districts , I have procured a copy , and have to request the favour that you will insert this reply . I am told that the editor of tbe Economist is a very wise man : be it so . He should , then , be very careful to publish truth and sense . I grieve to say , bis article on ' Factory Legislation' is deficient in both points .
' The workmen and workwomen' are not the authors of the agitation that is setting up in the manufacturing districts on the Ten Hours Bill . ' ' Properly and wages have not been destroyed by my crotchet . ' I thank my accuser for giving me the credit of ' inducing the legislature to embody my crotchet into a law . ' I thank him also for giving that law the title of * Mr Oastler ' s law . ' I fancy , however , that many persons will not readily accord to me that honour . It is not true that those ministers who gave their sanction to my crotchet were ' ignorant . ' Nor is it true that' Mr Oastler ' s law' was passed * unthinkingly ;'
or that' his enactment' is ' a ruinous restriction on the industry of man , and his helpmate—machinery . ' Neither have any facts recently transpired in the manufacturing districts , which should convince mambers of Parliament that to meddle with the industry of the people is a dangerous undertaking . ' It is a misrepresentation to state tbat 'throughout the manufacturing districts the masters have come to the resolution to employ men wherever they can in place of women . ' I wish , right heartily , that such were the case ; then our manufacturing operatives would have good wages and comfortable homes .
It is delightful , among so much error , to discover an atom of truth—qucre , was it wise in the Economist to remind the factory-workers of one great cause of the depression in wages , by telling them tbat
' THET ARE EXPOSED TO COMPETITION IU ALL THE markets e ? the worm . ' Let that truth become the watchword in every manufacturing district , then its effects will shortly be exhibited in a loud cry that will be echoed in St Stephen ' s . Why ! That cry will ¦ awake many sleepers , among the rest the supposed writer of the article 1 am noticing-. It is not true that 'female operatives would be degraded by banishment frem factories ; ' although it is true that' the condition of woman has of late been much improved in our factories ! ' What an admission from one who afterwards deprecates every ' Act of Parliament forbidding labour beyond a certain number of hours ; or , tbat ' meddles with industry ! ' the' improvement' he boasts of being the remit of the folly he announces !
The following paragraph is . upon the whole , so much in accordance with my own opinions , 1 could almost imagine t h at my opponent had cut it out of my letter ( upon which he is animadverting ) , and with slight additions dropped it , by mistake , amongst his own MS . It is so important , I will , with your leave , reprint it , and beg that every factory operative , and every member of Parliament , will have it reprinted in large type , and placed over his mantle piece . This is the paragraph to which I allude : —
¦ ' The general rate of wages , deduced from experience , is . that it must enab ' e the labourers , one with another , to subsist and rear a family . A sufficient payment to accomplish that—and , if capital be fast increasing , to rear tolerably large familiesmust be given to labourers . For the interests of capitalists , that rate of wages must be paid ; and it would seem better that it should be obtained by the labour of the man only , t han ly the labour of the man andwoman conjoined . It is , we believe , a general rule , that in those employments in which the ma es only labour for the wages which are to support the family , the ratea of wages are higher than in those where both male and female labour to the same end . In the latter case , the two onlt SET AS MUCH A 3 ONE IN THE FORMER . '
Granted . And why ? Because our male operatives are , in that case , not only' exposed to competition in all the markets of the world , ' but they are also driven to compete with nur female operatives in the home market of labour — father against daughter—son against mother—husband against wife—brother against sister ! The natural result of this unnatural competition , is fairly stated by my opponent , to be , 'The two only get as much as osb ! ' proving that it ia sheer madness to compete man fagainst hia helpmate woman ! This writer ought to know , that , before' Acts of Parliament forbidding labour , beyond a certain ^ number of hours ' were passed , this unholy competition was sometimes carried on between up grown men and female babes
not five years old ! and to a number of hours per day , in some ca ? es exceeding eighteen out of the twenty-four ! True , on his oivn showing , ' the two onlt got As much as one V and on the evidence of the grave-yards , measuring by the ordinary duration of life , 'The two only got as much ( life ) as one ! ' Still , after all his admissions , _ there is ^ my opponent says , ' an overruling necessity . ' outweighing the loss of life and of wases , which demands that' everything which stands in its way must be evaded or thrown aside ! ' Acts of Parliament protecting human life are , in the face of this ' overruling necessity , ' powerless-this scribe declares , ' they '
MUST BE EVADXD OR THROWN ABIDE 1 SllCh 13 the insane verdict of this wise writer in the Economist . And pray , Sir , what think you ia this ' overrulinz necessity V I entreat your patience . It is neither more nor less than , ' the best use they can make of their machinery ! ' I do not misrepresent , but I entreat you to read the article on which I am commenting . If the Economist be right , on his own showing , Acts of Parliament , passed for the protection of human life , ' must be evaded , or thrown asidb , ' and one-half of the wages of the male operatives must be sacrificed , simply to enable ' the manufacturers and workmen' to make ' the best use of their machinery .
Now , I think , Sir , no sane person will assent to this proposition ; I solemnly protest aeainst the adoption of a principle so dangerous , so inhuman , bo ! unchristian , so revolutionary . ^ Yield to that principle—reduce it to practice—and the social fabric must fall i find , Sir , that this new agitation on the Ten Hours clause which' the Associated Millowneis'have provoked , will be much more important than the last . Then , we simply claimed what humanity awarded . Now , even in the onset , our opponents are forcing ns to deal with fundamental principles of social economy . I rejoice at their temerity—I am prepared to encounter them . I think I can refute them by reason and Scripture , although they boast that common sense' resides with them ?
To return . Now for the reasons assigned for repealing or ' evading' ( that is the word ) tbe Ten Hours clause ; I will quote the words of my opponent , to which I call your most serious attention : — ' The average quantity of cotton , consumed weekly . in I 847 i was 2 l , iW bags against 30 , 000 bags in 1840 , or 8 , 600 bags per week less ! * The quantity of cotton purchassd by consumers in the months of September , October , and November , only averaged 14 . 500 bales weekly , aeainst 29 , 500 bales during the same period in 1840 ; thus showing in these autumn months a falling off in the weekly consumption of cotton of no less than 15 , 000 bales , or 50 per cent , as compared to last year ( 1846 ) . ' You will lemember that Mr Cobden haa told the cotton millowners : — ' YoU HAVE HOT COTTON IN EXISTENCE TO KEEP T 0 UB MACHINERY IN EMPLOYMENT . ' The Economist further states : —
' Tbe decrease ofl 847 , as compared to 1840 , of the sum whieh annually gees to pay wages and profit ? , or . reward all persons connected with the cotton trade fo- their exertions , ia estimated at upwards of £ 9 , 000 , 0001 '
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Strange , indeed , it appears to me , that , with this admitted and immense falling off in consumption , in quantity and in capital ( which cannot be attributed to the len Hours Clause , that clause has n » t yet come into operation ) , a demand should be made for a repe il of that clause-for longer hours of labour ! ine only reason assigned is , that , notwithstandin g tbis immense deficiency , ' ' some manufacturers run their mills thirteen and fourteen hours a day !' these manufacturers being , no doubt , members of the Association of Millowneiv , ' seeking , by Act of Parliament , to obtain a monopoly of the whole cotton trade for themselves , to ihe certain ruin of all others connected nith that branch ! I have answered my opponent of the Economist ; would that he , or tho editor of the Morning Chronicle , would answer mine of the 1 st inst ., which you kindly inserted in the Mobninb Post of the 6 th inst .
Verily , our opponent have raised a solemn question ! Let them , if they can , disprove the facts they nave admitted , or invalidate the deductions I have drawn therefrom—else , a case is established by themsdves , proving the folly—the danger-the wickedness of striving to found our national prosperity on the manufacture ot cotton . We have mistaken a spear for astaff-if wo longer lean thereon , we shall bo pierced to the heart ! Believe me , sir , the presumption of' The Associated Millowners , ' will lead to a discussion and an agitation that may open the eyes of our rulers to the danger of trusting for national prosperity to the manufacture of a foreign plant , instead uf our own agriculture ! I appeal Irom the factory workers , to the heads and rulers of the nation ! Shall I appeal in vain ? I remain , sir , your obedient . servant ,
_ „ lllOHARO OaSTLER . Fulham , Middlesex . ? -S . —1 was told , in Manchester , that Mr John Bright is the writer of the article in tbe Economist , io which this letter has , referenco . If so , tbe honourable member should he made to account to bis constituents for having m grossly misrepresented them . Ho should also be reminded of his repeaVd assurances to the factory operatives that , when ' they aro exposed to competition in all the markets of the world , ' their condition is improved in every respect . R . O .
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THE MINERS' ASSOCIATION . TO THE EDITOR OP THE NOIiTIIEII . V STAR . Dear Sir , — In jour valuable journal of Saturday , the 5 tb instant , there is a letter signed 'William Grocott , ' in whieh that gentleman seems to insinuate tbat I had not reported trul y as to the expense of tho 'Miners' Association ' I think Mr Grocott must have forgotten that ho published what is termed 'A two month ! , ' Report of the Miners' AhSoclation from September 6 th to OctobtrS < Hb , 18-17 , ' but in reality , only to the 18 : h October .
In tli « infi ^ ous docun ont I find expended from the General Fu ^ d in six weeks , for leetun . r .-. ' and executive ' s wages , together with conch £ ire , £ 139 17 s . 8 d . In connexion with thig association , there is what ia calUd the ' [ County Fund ; ' Hn < l out of ihia , thovu has been spent in paying a travelling pommittec , J Berry , and other local lecturers and agents , tho sum of £ 32 10 * . ia tho above time ; making a total of £ 172 16 * . S < i . There is one strange feature in this association , v ' z ., tbat the one set of men are tho executive ami travelling committee . And although that a conference held on the 11 th of August , 1817 , in St Helens , resolved— 'That AYitliam Meadowes , Robert March , nni V ? illiam Cbcet * ham be ih-travelling committee ; ' and ' that the above three , in conjuncion with the general secretary and treasurer , do form the executive of the l ! i iers' Association ;' still these ' three' men have been drawing pay from both funda , viz ., the General and County Funds .
There are other ittms in this bala-ce sheet thatldo not wish to mention at this time . Suffice it te spy , that if I thought proper , I w « uld make any honest unionist wonder how men can be so long dupod by a few . And now , Sir , I think [ have answered Mr Grocott ; for , if £ 172 ICs . 8 * 1 . fpeut from the fith September to the 18 th October , will not be . £ 180 in two months , it is rather strange to me . I beg to say , in conclusion , that ttis question hns hecn forced upon inc . And if the agents of tbe Miners' Union cannot support their position without the aid of lies , they bad better drop it at once . I am an unionist ia every sense of the word , and therefore would be glad to see the Miners' Association prosper ; but knowing , fiom ex . perienc * , that loeal unions are Ineffectual to the wants of the a ; e , I am anndvec . ite for a general organisation ; and hence tbe sp ' ecn of thetointerested particn .
I value my character as much as Mr Grocotts , and will at all tiuies be ready to prove what I may assert , . While I remain , yours truly , J . IiENEGAN . P 3 . —I would have given every item , but your space would not allow it . Wigan , Feb . 6 , 1818 .
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Suicide of a Descendant of the Pksdril Family . -On Wednesday Mr W . Payne held an inquest at the Queen ' s Head , St Martin ' s le Grand , on the body of Charles Pendril , aged thirty-three , a journeyman shoemaker . The deceased was , by his ancestors , connected with a very important event in the Engli . » h history . He was a descendant of tho Pendrils who rendered such great services to Charles the Second when pursued by his enemies , and lying concealed in the oak . For this act of loyalty the heid of the family was rewarded with a pension of £ 100 a year ; but from political circumstances payment was in after years suspended by the government ( some say refused by the family ) , and it was only recently that the descendants , who are all in
indigent circumstances , endeavoured to obtain its renewal . The deceased was the son of Mr Pendril , known as bavins ; given shelter in his house to young Watson , who was concerned in the Cato-street conspiracy , secreting him for several weeks while the public officers were in search of him , and afterwards safely sending him to America in tho disguise of a Quaker . The deceased resided at No , 4 , King ' s Head-court , and lately hail been much depressed in spirits from the want of sufficient work . On Saturday night hesus . pended himself to a rail on which the clock was hung , and was found next morning lifeless . Tbe
jury returned a verdict ol' Temporary insanity , ' Fire . -Guildhall was in some danger of being destrored by fire on Sunday morning , from tho close proxim'ty of other buildings . About one o ' clock in the morning Wood , one of tho patrols , was crossing over the roof of Guildhall , when he found a fire had broken out in tbe upper floor at Messrs Gregory and Cubitt's , straw bonnet manufacturers , No . 15 , Aldermanbury . The back of theso premises are within two feet of one portion of Guildhall Through the early discovery of the fire the mischief was confined to the upper part of the house , but the damage from fire and water amounts to nearly
£ 2 , 000 . WniTECIIAPKI . CSUNTV COUBT . —JOSXPH Ant ONH 1 B last Legs . — The celebrated Joseph Ad y , of ' something to advanta ge' notoriety , was summoned again to show cause why he refused payment of twenty shillings , which he obtained from George Duke , Esq . of No . 54 , . Cambridge-ttrrace , Hyde Park , nnd Hast ings , Sussex , under the usual pretence of affording him some information to his advantage . The money was forthwith transmitted to , ' Friend Joseph , ' and the inform ation received iras worth nothing , although Ady furnished the plaintiff with plenty of lithographic circulars . —Tho defendant did not appear on the
occasion , but his representative said he could offer no defence , and that hia client was obliged to throw himself upon the mercy of tho plaintiff , who had agreed to receive the money by instalments of 6 s , 8 d . per month and tho c > sts . fie eould assure the court Mr Ady was on hia last legs . —The Judge : Joseph here again ! The public are n > t to be duped any lon ger . —Mr Duke said he wished to show mercy to the defendant , and that he brought forward this case on public grounds . —An order for the payment of He debtand costs by instalments , as proposed , was th' Q mitde . Thia was the eighth summons taken out in this court against Ad y , and in every one an order was made upon him .
A Rklic of thk FnENcn Republic —General Michaux , one of the most distinguished officer * of Engineers o ' ' the republican and . imperial armies , died at Versailles on the 10 th instant , in the seventyeiehth your of his ago . lie entered the oprvic * in 1793 performed the campaigns of 1704 , 1795 , 1795 , and 1797 , and accompanied General Bonaparte to Egypt . Left in command of the fort of Gatiiee , when the French army marched to Syria , he bravely maintained that position in tbe centre of the desert . When tbe army , on its return from Soria , reached Cathee , Captain Michaux sought among the staff the officers of engineers , his comrades , in order to embrace them . Astonished at their absence , he asked Bonaparte where they were . ' They are dead , ' rep lied the General . ' Are there none remaining ?' inquired Miehaux . Bonaparte cited several names , and added , 'There are many more in Egypt . ' 'Not
so many as you lost before St Jean d'Acre , ' rejoined the commander of tho fort . ' . What will you have ?' was the reply . It is Ihe lot of those who serve in your department of the army . ' Michaux remained in Ecypt after the departure ot Bonaparte , and took part in the siege ot Ca ' ro , and ultimately in the defence . ef Alexandria . Having returned to France he was employed in fortifying the islands of Walcheren and Elba , and was afterwards director of the fortifications of Genoa , in 1812 , he was transferred to the army of Portugal , in 1813 tothatof Spain , and was present ah tho subsequent military operations until the battle of Toulouse . On his return frem Elba , Napoleon appointed him Commander of the Engineers of the G ' -li corps . The Restoration also availed itself of the services of General Michaux , who , at his death , was a member of the municipal council of Versailles .
LBADBBsmp op the Country Party . —Lord Gianty haa declined the hon « ur of succeeding to the post ot loader of the Conservative parly in the house of Commons , vacant by tiie retirement of Lord George Bentinck .
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[ Press of matter prevented us from inserting last week an outline of the important Bdl broub ' ' on Thursday se ' nnight by Lord Mospeth , f . ir promoting the public htaltli in cities and tonus . We now subjoin an abstract of its provigioua as explained by his !¦ rdship . ] Health or Towns . —The bill had beon dr < - iwn up by the Attorno } -General , in a shape which , his lordsliip said , he hoped would render it little liable to ol'jection , He intended to abide by the proposal of last year to appoint n central board of health , conmitutid in the same manner as then appeared to be saricttontdby parliament . It would consist of live numbers—of whoai two would be paid , and would bo presided over by some responsible member of the government . That proposal contained the principle of centralisation , to which some
gaitlimen entertained so strong an objection ; but with , out some suchmenns of applying the results of experience and of scientific con'rol , ho was of opinion that any measure of this kind nould be a mere motkery . But , whilst he acttd on the principle of some regulated amount of state provision , he thought that tke working of tho measure should be committ ! d to local bodies , responsible to their respective local communities , Tiie state should evidently have the power of cheeking obvious abuses , but it should kavo the repression of locul abuses to local efforts , he therefore passed on to the constitution of the local bodies which govcrnmtnt proposed to call into exis . tnce . On that point it w ; ra intended to aJhero to tne proposition of last year , which had been teni rally approved in the house , and in
the country . That proposition was , that these loeal boards should be connected with and not distinct from the town councils , where municipal councils existed . Two objections , however , have been urged against tho employment of town eouv . cils for sanitary pur- , pases . It w » s aaid > firstly , that these bodies were too numerous ; and , secondly , that the diffrenee of the municipal boundary from that wanted for sanitary purposes would prov « a p > rpstual source of difficulty ,. Now , he proposed to obviate the first objection by providing , that after a certain number of the Inhabitants of a municipal town had applied for the benefit of this net , and after a report had been received from the inspectors of the district on the local circumstances of the district , and on tho expediency of
applying the act to it , it should be lawful fer the Executive Government , if it appeared fit tUni this act should bB applied to it , to define the nutnbtr of persons who ni . re to carry it into effect . He took it for granted that that number would bo less than the uamber of tbo town councillors ; and therefore the government proposed that parties should bj selected from th *) town council by themselves , and that those parties should constitute the health cemmitlee . This plan he deemed moie advnntiigeous than his plan of last year . As to the ohjcCtion that v the sanitary boundary would outstep and overlay the municipal boundary , he proposed to obviate it by providing that- the same order in council which declared the act applicable to the outlaying district , should define the number of sanitary comtnis .
aioner * to serve for it , and that those commissioners should bs elected by the ratepayers on the snme prilicipl-s as the guardians of tho poor , and should be asso . elated fur sanitary purposes * ith the commissioners appointed by the toivn council . In plnces not muni , eipnl , the order in council 'would act forth ihe number of commission ! M for the district , and they , too , would bo tlected iu tho same manner by tbo ratepayers . Government did not intend to make any exception in England and Wales to the operation of this act , Tbouiih he wiihed to have the same principles applied to Scotland and Ireland , ho did not intend tu encumber his bill with clauses , spplying its provisions to those countries ; but if this bill-should be adopted and approved la England and Wales , be
hoped that it would bo applied (< , r both by Scotland and Ireland , Government , therefore , did not professedly exclude tbe metropolis from the operation ot this measure . Butha did not wish to mislead-his hearers . In the metropolis wo were far advanced , beyond tbe rest of the country by the constitution of the Commission of Sewers and of the processes which they kid carried into effect . Government bad also appointed a rommifsion to inquire what measures it would be best to adopt for the sanitary ri-Rulation of the metropolis . That commission bad already made some repi-rts , and as far as they had reported , government had acted upon their recommendations . It would also act on their future recommendations ; and he expected that in a fen- days he should bo able to bring in a bill to give legislative force to one
of them . Having thu * constituted the local bodies , he proceeded to enumerate tho functions which they nould have to perform . lie made a distinction between ihose functions whieh it would be imperative and obligatory on the commissioners to perform , and those whieh would be only permissive » e < I discretionary . Ail functions relative to the public health would be imperative—other functions relative to regu ' . atiens which might be desirable in one locality and not in another , would ba only discretionary . He then specially enumerated the duties which it would be imperative on the local boards to discharge . They would have to hold regular meetings for the performance of business , to appoint surveyors , and intpectors of towns , to provide a map of their district , to make public sewers where they did cot
exist , and to substitute better for defective sewers , to compel tho owntrs und occupiers of houses te . 'Upply houscdrains , to supply water for the cleansing of tbe streets , to appoint scavengers , to fill up -ffenslve and unwholesome ditches , and to provide sufficient water for draining and for public and private use . Among their permissive duties would bo to enlarge , overarch , and otherwise nlti-r , existing sewers ; to require new buildings to be censtructed on a proper level for drainage ; to niter drains , privies , « fcc . ; to make bylaws fer the removal of ft th ; to ri quire certain furnacts to consume their onn unoite ; to remove slaughtrr houses ; to niter buildings improperly built for veniila tion ; to inspect lodging houses of a ctrtain description ;
to provide public grounds for recreation andammement and public baths and waterworks . Purposes like these mtistbe carried into effect by a rate on the district ; and he hoped that the provision * for regulating the rating were as clearly and as concisely drawn up as possible . They were so framed as to admit tho rates to be levied only on the districts specially benefit ed ; and in cases where large and expensive improvements were to he made , a special provision was introduced that tbe espenae of them should ba defrayed by small instalments upreod over a number of years . He did not like to commit himself to an estimate of the expenses to which the ratepayers would be liable ; bat it had bton computed that for supplying the houses of the poor with water , f > r giving tbem drains and privies , and for cleansing
obnoxious thoroughfares , the expense would not be more thun U . o-tttek tor each house . He did not intend to include in this bill a clause for the removal of cim ; . ttriea from towns or for making cemeteries out of their walls . That was a matter of sufficient importance to require a dutinct bill . Ho intended , however , to propose that the Board of Health » hould be empowered , when any burning place appeared to it to bo destructive of the health and life of tho residents in its vicinity , to prohibit tbe use of tbat burying ground for interment in future . With regard te the subject of ventilation , be proposed to place it uudur the special supervision of the central bjard . These wire the main provisions of the act which he had to submit to the house ; but be could
not conclude his task nitliout endeavouring to impress on tho house a few of tbe reasons on which he Thought that it was bound to adopt this or some other better measure without del » y , in its full , or it might be in improved , efficiency . He did not lay stress on the apprehended approach of the cholera . If that dreaded malady should arrive , it would fee obligatory on us to provide nv . a is for its repression and prevention , Those meana micbtbe the application of temporary remedies to a temporary evil , Government had not been inattentive to that subject . It had already revived in tho last session of parliament the Cholera Act of 1832 , and all the means were already provided for appointing local boards un ^ er it , ill ease'the cholera approached . The house , however , was not then called upon to meet a
formidable and extraordinary malady , but to meet the abiding nuisance of the country , the annual mist of epi-(• smic doubling in our towns theslaughter of the bloodiest fi ' . 'ld of battle . He did not intend to rely on statis-( ics entirely ; they misjht be exaggerated or lormed on i ( accurate data . He would , therefore , discard the higher computations , and ydopc the most reduced scale of dia . use and mortality which had been placed before the public ; and it' it were true that in England and Wales 'th « re were 30 , 600 Uv « a whUA we could annually save , and 7 , 000 , 1 . 00 or 8 . 000 , 000 of money which we could annually spare from our expenditure on the peor , and if wo di- * not save the one and spare tho Other , our filly would only be less than our crime . Lira Morpeth concluded by osltlng , whether those towns
which provided England and tbe world with fuel , iron , manufactures of every kind—those vast hives of industry , the source . s of such comfort and civilisation t f mankind—ought to have their homes the seats of filth , disease , and degradation of the worst kind , aad to be encircled with such deadly and demoralising influences 1 Ho , therefore , a « ked for the labour of Great Britain and its various agents all the appliances which theadvan : ing knowledge of the house could give . He did not ask tbe house to stifle British energy with over interference , but be did ask it to make its superior skill and tclence available to point out to the clear heads and dexterous hands of our operatives tbe true and proper path of health in which they ought to walk , and from which they ought never to be alio wed again to stray .
The bill wris favourably received . The objections taken to it being that it did not go far enough . No member complained ot its doing too much . —Colonel SibtuObp found fault with it because it did not include the metropolis . —Lord Duncan becaaee tbcro vfas no mention of repeal of the window tax . —Mr Hsabmah complained that it did not entirely abolish intramurial interments ; and Mr Wakiet . anathematised fever hospitals in towns . —To these various complaints Lord Moefeth replied generally , that ho was aware of their importance , but , as men of business , thoy must do one at a time .
MONDAY , I ' m . 14 . HOUSE OP IOEDS . —The house sat for half an hour , but the business was entirely confined to receiving petitions and notices . HOUSE OP COMMONS . —GbeatYabmodtii Election . —Mr D Skimeb reported from the committee on the Great Yarmouth election petition that Lord A , Lskxox
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and O E . CooT £ , Esq ., were not only elected , that the election was void , that tbe ion . gentlrfflfn named bad been ( through their agents ) guilty of bribery at the last olec-. ion , but that there was no evidence to show thac such acts of bribiry had been committed with their knowledge , that gross and aj stematic bribtr / prevailed at the last and preceding election , especially anions , ' the freemen , and the comirittoe were unaniniwud . v of opinion that tbe fneraen of the borough should be dig . franchise )! , and that no new writ be issued until legislative measures have been taken for tbe purpose of such disfranchisemint . ( Cheers from the ministerial side . ) New Whit fob Wateepobd . — On the ruo'ionofan Hon , Member , a ntw writ was ordered to bu i ? sutd for the city of Waterford , in the room of Daniel O'Connell , E-n ., resigned .
Impeachment of Lokd I ' auiervtoh . —Mr C . Anktet , before he gave notice ef the renewal of his motion , wished ts ask if the government had any objection to afford htai a day for the purpose of bringing it forward . If they did he would relievo them from the embarrassment whieh ho understowd would fellow his bringing forward the question that evening . If they would not , he must press his motion at all hazards . Lord J . Itu ^ sELL said certain days were allotted to the government by the custom of the house , and he did not think it consistent wiih bis duty to agree to fjive tip to a private motion tho days allotted to the public busi . uess . Tho hon . msmberknew very well that th < re were two motion days in the week , when his question might be brought forward . Sir C . Anstet said , that under these circumstances it would be his duty , at however late nn hour , to bring forward his motion , as an amendment upon the motion , to no into committee ot supply .
\ kt a subsequent period of tne evening ( hr . lf past twelvo o ' clock ) , wbon tho committee of supply waa moved by tho Cuakcelloe of tha Excuequi h , the iollowinji convc-rsatu n occurred : —J Mr Ukquuaet s'dd that it wis no'oriou < tbat tha government had used means to prevent tho motion of the honourable member for Youghal being brought on , and he therefore would move the ? . di' . arnmeut ol tbo house . Mr W . S . O'Bhien seconded the motion , bee-.. use he thought that injusiica had beea done the honourable gentleman . Lord D . Stuaut said , that if ho felt as the honourable member for Youghal , he would certainly persist in bis motion , but would not interrupt the puelic Insi . nojs .
The Cuskcellob . ot the ExcnEQr / iBsiid if the honourable gentleman would take the advice of the noble lo d behind , him , government would do their best to keep him a house , on a notice-dpy . ( Hear . ) It was desirable for the public interest that the vote he proposed to t-ilie to-night should betaken , as a mattirof form , before the noble lord at the head of the government made his financial statement . Mr O'GoBMAN MAHoN admitted that ho had exer . cised all tho puwer l : e possessed to induce members to retire on tho occasion referred to —( laughter)—for the purpose of marking bis disapproval of whathe considered the factious course pursued by tho honourable and learned member ( Mr Anstcy ) who bad brought forward his motion in opp <» ition to the tarprersud wish of both sid-a of thahouse . ( Hear . )
Mr Anetet said he had given the government , iu the early part of tbe evening , every opportunity io afford him the assurance that he should have an opportunity of bringing on his motion ; but no such assurance had been given He end other honourable members had remained ail the evening , at great inconvenience , and ho was now asked to surrender the i . nly advantage he ha-3 been able to obtain . If the right honourable gentleman would namn a day next week for the committee of supply , and fix it an early hour , he would accede to the rt quest now made ; otherwise , he was quite ready to proceed . It was perfectly notorious that , on the former evening , the honourable and learned gentlemen who acted as wbippere-in to the { . 'ovcnimcnt had used their efforts tocount the house , ( Laughter . )
The Chancellor of tho Excueqiieb said it was desirable that the honourable and learned gentleman might take an early daj—say that diiy fortnight—when his motion would probably stand first , and government would drt all in their power to secure him a house . As to bringing the motion on when a committee of snpply was fixed , he would have just the same opportunity on any future occasion of a committee of supply . No advantage could be gained to-night by bringing the motion on at this late hoar ; Mr Anstet agreed to po 9 tpsnehis motion till tbe day named by the Chancellor of the Exchequer , and hoped that good faith would bu kept with him .
The ABCBBisHor or Cahtekbdbt . —Lord J . RnssEur . said that the honourable member for Cockermouth had put a question to him whether he was disposed to giro notice to any future Archbishop of Canterbury that tho government would consider him sulject to such ecclesiastical arrangements , changes , and modiGcations as parliamentmight hcreafterdetermineupon . He begged to say that heentlrely concurred in opinion vtith tke honour , able member and others who thought tbe present mode of apportioning the incomes of the high church
dignitaries unsatisfactory , and that parliament migbt devise a far better arrangement viith reppi / ct both to the payment by the commissioners to th « biahops , and by the bisheps to the commissioners . ( Hear , hear ) He therefore thought it most proper to give notice to any futurs Arch bishop of Canterbury that be must accept hia archbishopric subject to any subsequent ecclesiastical arrangements which might be made by parliament . In the sum proposed to be assigned to tho future archbishop , £ 15 , 000 per annum , he did not contemplate any altera-ion .
Mr HoEBMAK considered tbo Eoblo lord ' s reply perfectly satisfactory . New HousesU ))? Pabliamknt . —Mr Osbobne , in pursuiince of his notice , brought under tbo consideration of the bou ^ e the last return relating to the ezpensis of t & o new Pdlace m Westminster . In doing so ; ho called attention to the great expense , and slow progress , and pregt-nt condition of tbe building . He did not intend to make any attack upon Mr Barry , ihe architect , whom he believed te be as honourable a man as any of thoH ) who then heard him ; but he must complain of the profligate ami reckless expenditure of public meney on two houses of parliament , withont any sufficient control over it , and of the unnecessary delay which had taken place in their erection . £ 710 , 000 was the original estimate .
£ 1 , 400 , 000 had already been expended ; and the calculation was tbat at least £ 500 , 000 must still be expended over these buildings ; and yet the Commons were as far as oer from inhabiting their new bouse . Ho mustalso complain of tho stone of which the buildings were constructed , and must ask Lord Morpeth , as head of the Woods and Forests , whether it was capable of standing the weather ? H « must likewise protest against the expenditure for Tetuilating and warming tbe new houses . We bad already spent £ 90 , 000 odd on that object , and we had no security that we should not have to expend another £ 98 , 000 on the top of it . The firi-prcoOii g of tbe houses had already cost £ 15 , 600 : £ G 000 bad already been spsnt for miscellaneous works , and £ 15 . 000 for miscellaneous and contingent works , neither of whieh
had ever been sanctioned by the Souse of Commons . Such being the case , he thought that it was high citno that the house should step in and set its face against this lavish expenditure of public money . He called npon the house , which was said to bo composed of more men of business than any former House of Commons , not to be deterred by the sneers either of Lord Morpeth or L rd J . Russell , but to call opou them to proceed at once to the performance of their duties . lie hoped that tbe statements which lie had now \ nade would not be left to perish stillborn , but that some gentleman noiild take them up and found amotion upon tlum . He thought that we should do batter by passing good constitutional laws in a plain edifice , than by founding a magnificent pile of Gothic buildings for that purpose .
Lord Morpeth admitted that tbe building was an expensive one , and tV . at it had , i » tbat respect , exceeded tho original estimate . But , under all the circumstances , this could hardly have betn otherwise , and tbe architect was pnpured to stand the test of any contrast whatever , with any building erected in this country in modern times , either with refinnce to its cost of construction , the speed of its erection , or the effect of its appearance . From the circumstances in which he bad be , n placed , the architect had himself to sustain nearly all the responsibility of the undertaking , which ho was anxious to make a credit and glory to the country . The government would take measures to contract the annual sums to be voted for the new houses for tho coming years , although this economy would be observed , he feared , at the cost of some further delay in the completion » f the works .
A protracted discus . » n ensued , in which Sir It . Inclis , Mr HfME , Sir R , Peel , Mr 41 . MiLfE * . the Earl of Lincoln , and other members took part , but tho 'talk ' ended without any definite conclusion . Thb Hew Zeal ^ sd GoVEa » KE » T 15 vm .. —On the motion for going into committeeon this bill , Lord LtNCVLtff delivered a speech , not against the suspension of the constitution recently granted to tbelr colonies , but tho constitution itself . Mr LiDOCCBlKK defended tho constitution , and the proposal to suspend it . The house tbtn went into committ . ee , and the clauses wtre several ? agreed to . On resuming , tho Speaker stated that MrCholmondely declined to deftmd his return ( it bting a double one ) fer tho Montgomery district of burghs , and on tbe motion of Sir R . Peel , the cl . rk of ths crcwh was ordered to ntttnd and insert the name of Mr Push accordingly .
The bouse then wsut into Committee of Supply , and the annual vote for the payment of £ 17 , 543 , 503 of Kxcb < quer bills was agreed to . Adjourned at a quarter putt one ,
TUESDAY , Feb . 15 th : HOUSE OF LORDS . —A p the Bishop of Exetkb . from Buckinghamshire , praying tbat „ ire , to which Deans and Ch « subjected in the discharge of iion and consecration of Bishops theprayer •« * Utoh petition ported in fl long speech . After the Lord Ciuncellob , the B DENMAK . Lord Campbell , and the petition was ordered to lie HOUSE OF COMMONS . _ Itali . — Dr Bowkino then rose notice , for copies or extracts subject of the Commercial League that tho recent events in Italy , with such combined prudence and energy , had beea
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