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THE REVOLUTION IN NAPLES AND SICILY . The full details of the events whioh preceded and led to tbe grand result ofthe 29 ; h ult ., which was communicated to the French government by telegraph , hare at length arrived . A large collection of documents and papers are before us , including the files of a journal got up at Palermo on the spur of the moment , and printed and circulated amidst the thunders of a _bombardment , and while a storm of grape swept tbe principal thoroughfares of the city . This journal entitled II CirriDiNO , may beconsidered as the _SIosiieub of the provisional government of
Sicily . Oh the 21 st , it became apparent to the _^ commanders of the royal forces , that with an entire population agaimt them , the means at their disposal were inadequate to the reduction of ihe city . Nego tiations were therefore attempted . General de _Ssaget , therefore , sent a Sicilian captain to the junta on the 22 nd , with the following propositions : 1 . For a suspension of hostilities . —2 . For the supply of provisions to the prisons where criminals were confined , and which were still under the guard ofthe royal troops . —3 . To send a deputation of the junta toNaples _. to lay before the King the demands ofthe people . 4 . To publish a decree of general amnesty ; _vrhich decree was sent to the junta . These propositions , excepting the second , were rejected with the utmost disdain . The decree of amnesty which was sent , when delivered by the junta to the people , was publicly burned .
On the 22 nd an obstinate conflict took place at the Treasnrv between the troops and the people , and a still more bloody one at the convent of _Noyizziate , which was occupied by the troops . These positions ¦ were finally carried by the insurgents on that evening , and a great number of the military taken prisoners . The soldiers thus captured were treated with ihe greatest humanity , and afterwards employed by the insurgents to point their guns . The Banfe and the Palaz » Reale also fell into thepoirer of the Insurgents . .... The Duke deMajo , who commanded one division ofthe royal troops , fled for safety and gained thei quarters of General de Sauget . General Vial escaped on board a vessel in the harbour and went to Naples
. . , At Naple 3 tbe news from Palermo , whicii transpired iu spite of all the efforts of the police to intercept it , and the spectacle of steamer after steamer disembarking on the quay the wounded soldiers , produced a _aost profound impression . The decrees granting reforms similar to those of Rome and Piedment . published on the 24 th ult ., were attended with no effect . The people showed an aspect of silent and _cald decision , and it became speedily evident that danger to the monarchy wa 9 imminent . Clubs were organised in defiance of the police . Meanwhile ihe government was paralysed , and the King at the eleventh hour , became conscious of the peril into -which his obstinacy had brought his dynasty . That -peril _extsrted from him as order for the expulsion
-of the two individuals to whom hitherto he bad been ¦ most closely attached , and who , being known to be the most ardent advisers of his despotic policy , were : * ao 3 t odious ti the people . His confessor , XI . Code , -was sent from Naples to a convent in tbe _principality of Beneventutn ; and Del Carretto , the atro-¦ _dous minister of police , was conducted under an escort on board the steamer Neptune—previously r > repared for the _purpose—and sent to Genoa . In the afternoon of tbe 26 th ult . the people , to the Humber of upwards of 30 . 000 collected in the Via Toledo , the great main street of Naples . Shouts in _favours of a constitution were everywhere heard to resound . Meaawhile the numbers augmented , and all the
streets leading into the Via Toledo presented dense Basses . The authorities now proceeded to execute the general ordersgiven to them for c » se 3 of serious _eiseatw _. The red flag was hoisted on the Castle of St Elmo and the Castell _dell'Uovo . On this signal the drams beat and the troops of the garrison were called out . They surrounded the palace and attempted to clear the Via Toledo . That street , closely packed with a mass of 30 , 000 people , was impenetrable . Cries for a constitution , meanwhile , were everywhere heard . Every window was filled with Indies , waving bankerchiefs , and wearing ribbons of the Italian tri-colour . The cavalry attempted one charge , in which they were immediately thrown from their horses .
_Sm-b was the state of thing 3 on the evening of tbe 26 th . The _Kiiig still hesitated , reluctant to give np tbe last hope of _suppressing the revolt by the armed farce . He was however brought to a sense of his situation by the reports of the commanders of the troops themselves . The _minis ' . ers resigned , and tbe King called on the Duke de Serra _Capriola . late ambassador at Paris , and a well-known libera 1 , giving bim unlimited power to act as he might think fit- A liberal cabinet was immediately formed , The result of their first cabinet council was to tender tbeir advice to the Kins to proclaim at once a constitution for the kingdom ol the Two Sicilies , to be
founded on the same principles as the French charter of 1830 . including two chambers the royal in . Tiolabilitv , the responsibility of ministers , the liberty of the press , and the national . guard . Religious toleration alone is withheld . _ No religion save the Soman Catholic is te be permitted . News from Naples to tbe 31 st , states tbat the national guard hsi been already brought into action , although armed only with fowling pieces and such vreapens ea could be improvised , in whieh cudcels _vrera included . The _lssaroniaro turbulent . The liberal party , who lately had tbe government to contend against , had now , it _eeems , the most ignorant and lowest class to coerce .
Tbe King was very popular . On the 30 th be drove through the streets of Naples in an open carriage _, accompanied by the Queen , and unattended by any escort . When on tbe 29 th the decree granting the constitntion was posted up it is impossible to describe the scene that ensued . All business was suspended , and anxious groups surrounded every ' affiche / _some one geaeraliy reading aloud for the benefit ° f all . The long and imposing Strada Toledo was soBn filled with pedestrians , and about eleven o ' clock by vehicles of all descriptions . Every soul seemed in a moment to have obtained a _tri-coloared cockade of white , green , a * d red , and a hundred _tri-colonrtd
gags waved from the vehicles , the houses , and the crowd . I noticed among the latter Lord Napier , the British minister , with a tri-coloured cockade in his hat , and attended by bis two secretaries . Among the inscriptions on the flags I noticed ' Viva Italian Independence / ' Viva awakening Italy , ' 'Viva Italy independent / ' Viva Italia again arising . ' Patrols of the national guard only were to be seen , some with-• outuniforms , and armed with fowling-pieces . They were received continually with cries of 'Viva la guard ' s _, nazionale ; ' and I also heard , 'Viva l'JbgirJterra . ' I noticed a certain number of priests searing cockades , and taking an active part , shouting vociferously , one carrying a tri-coloured flag , but they were far fewer iu number tban at Genoa .
The last account * from Palermo ( understood to be ap to the 29 th ult . ) received in Naples , announced that a suspension of arms had been concluded between the insurgents and tbe troops , and that the latter had retired to some distance from the eity . An order for tbeir immediate return to Naples has Seen forwarded te tbe Duke de Majo . An insurrectionary movement had also broken ont at Messina , but no collision had taken place between she people and the garrison , which bad retired into the forts and tbe citadel . Meanwhile troops are poured in , in considerable numbers , by all the roads leading from Austria towards Central Italy ; and steamers are employed to transport tbem _acres 3 the Adriatic , to various points on the Italian coast . The rieour of tie _^ Austrian police at Milan is very great . Tie arrests increase in number , and several respectable citizens have been sent to Spielberg .
Tbe number of persons wounded in the massacre of the Snd and 3 rd ult . proves to be 216 , and every day is marked by tbe death of some among them . They bave chiefly fallea under bayonet wounds . The insurrection in Sicily ha 3 caused an immense sensation throughout Italy , mere especially at Genoa , where it gave rise to a popular demonstration . A Te Tkum was chaunted in tbe cathedral , and the words' God for the victory ofthe people' were placed in large letters on the door . Great excitement prevailed in Piedmont , produced ioa the one hand by reports of aggressive _mili'aiy de-; moDstrations on the part of Austria in Lombardy , i and on the other by the news of the proclamation of itae c 8 _Hstitution of Naples . Various regiments w ° re i ordered to proceed from Turin and Genoa to Alessanidria by forced
marches-Home , Jan . 25 th . —The news frem Palermo will _Ilaugsisee have reached you , but you can have no ; Idea of the joy and excitement tbereanent bere . _People go out for miles to meet the courier on tbe Vic . Appia , and extraordinary supplements are issued 1 hourly by the newspapers . The grand feature of this lautbreak is tbe possession of artillery on tbe side of I tbe patriots , over forty or fifty pieces ef ordnance I having been secured by their leaders , and they niade [ prisoners in the onset cf over one hundred artillery-Itnen , whom they have got to work their guns ; Tbe [ importance of this accessory in warfare is fully felt [ bythe Romans , who hailed the other day withde-[ light the present sent them by the ladies of Genoa , a
_i small cadeau of two _12-pounders in brass . At the reiriew of seven battalions of our civic guard on the I oread square of St John Lateran _yeBterdav , with i & e cry ot * Long live the Pope ! ' _suddedly arose , and ¦ eras re-echoed to the skies , the shout of _'Lenglire I tbe men of Palermo / The students of the Uaiveraity assisted at a solemn 1 nigh mass in their collegiate _chauel for their _bret hren slain at the university town _' of _Pavia . They lhad crape and cypress branches . Some of tbe ( crowded assembly , observing the presence of Father _( _Garap , acelebrated preacher , surrounded bim , and ( carrying him on their shoulders np into the pnlpit , j _w-deredhira to preach a funeral sermon _fortfaefallen , V \ hereupon the orator broke forth into a most spier . '
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did improvisation , and stirred up the souls of his yonng auditory to a pitch of devotional as well as patriotic fervour .
FRANCE . On Thursday a body of students assembled iu the Place de Panthejp , and proceeded towards the Chamber of _Deputies , with the intention of depositing & petition against the suspension of the lectureB of M . Michelot . The column increased as it went till it amounted to about 2000 persons . On reaching the Qaai _d'Orsay tbey were met by Commissaries of police at a short distance from the Pont de la Concorde , who enjoined them to stop and disperse . After an exchange of a few words with M Cremieux , tbe Deputy , who came out to them , and received the petition , which he promised to present to the Chamber , the students went to tie offices of the National aud Reforms , the Codrrier Fraxcus , and the Demochatie _Pacifiqub , whence they returned to the Place de Pantheon , and then separated . At each
ofthe offices above named one of the students delivered the following address , which was replied to with assurance of co-operation : — ' We have just carried to tha Chamber of Deputies a petition demanding justice in the name of freedom of discussion , always promised , __ always violated . The only voice which awakened in us sentiments of unitv and patriotism—tbat voice which consoled us forthe forced silence of M . Mackiewiez and M . Qninet , has been stifled . We have exhausted all legal means to obtain a hearing , and nothing is left for us but to protest . Will yon then . Mr Editor , be our organ of appeal to public opinion ? Affirm for us in tbat we bave " preserved intact'tbe traditions of the school * Of 1830 , and all the other great epochs , and being handed down to us from generation to generation , tbat tbey are still alive in the bottom of our heart * . '
The following instance of tbe liberty allowed to fo . rekners resident in France is given by the _Constiiu _, _tios . vsl : — . ' A _ywjnj : Prussian refugee at Paris , M . _kngela , author of a work on the pauperism of _England , has received au order to leave Paris , it is not known why in _twenty-rour hours , and Franco in three days , un . der a threat of being banded over bythe gendarmerie to the Prussian police . ' The debate in the Chamber of Deputies on the affairs of Switzerland was brought to a close on Thursday evening . The speech of M . Thiers caused a great sensation .
The paragraph annually appended by tbe Chamber ofBeputies to its Address , in which 'France reminds Europe of the rights of Polish nationality / was the subject of discussion on Friday . The ministers were interrogated respecting the _suppres ' sion ofthe Czartoriski dinner , and the expulsion of M . Bakounine . M . _Guiaot said , that the dinner to Czartoriski was stopped . purely from the great interest the government felt in the Polish cause . The government knew that the opinions ofsome of those who were to be present went further than those of
others , and therefore it slopped it . With regard to the expulsion of M . Bakounine , he merely stated that the person in question was not a Polish refugee , but a Russian , who had voluntarily taken up his residence in Paris , and whom the government had ' serious' reasons for not allowing to remain any longer . M . Bakounine ' s offence was , that he bad Bpokea disrespectfully of the head of a friendly government . He had- in short treated tbe Emperor of Russia as an oppressor , an assassin , and an executioner , and that he was expelled at the request of the Russian government .
On Monday and Tuesday the Chamber wag occupied with tbe paragraph on the Reform banquets . Tha ministers were _^ fiercely denounced by several speakers . The- debate on the Banquets was resumed on Wednesday . The speech oi M . Odillon Barrotconsidered one of tbe best he ever pronounceddelivered the preceeding day—had created a considerable sensation in Paris , particularly that part of it in which he expressed bis sorrow that a government originating in a revolution should resort to measures of repression , which the government overturned
by that revolution had never attempted . M . Boissel , Mayor ofthe 12 th Municipal District of Paris , who bad accepted the presidency oi a banquet , which was prevented by the government , protested against that measure , and declared its subscribers were all municipal officers , respectable merchants , and National Guards , who could inspire the authorities with no apprehension . M . Hebert , the Minister of Justice , who followed , said , tbat those banquets had been evidently gotten up for the purpose of preparing some re _rolutiouary movement . The government , in accord with the committee on the Address , had accordingly thought proper to condemn them .
SWITZERLAND . The Diet bave adopted , by a majority of seventeen votes and a half , a decree by which its deeision on the 3 rd of September last , concerning the expulsion ef the Jesuits , is confirmed in those forms which are adapted to _pre-eut circumstances , as well as to the expulsion since effected by the four cantons in which they bad fixed their residence .
DENMARK . On tho 28 th ult ., the new King of Denmark , accomplishing tbe promise wbich he had given in the letter patent published on the 20 th , signed an ordonnance , by whieh he grants a constitution to his States . There are to be established Commons States for the Kingdom of Denmark and the _duchios of Sleswiek and Holstein } these States are to assemble at fixed periods alternately in the Kingdom of Denmark and in the duchies . The new constitution consecrates tbe principle of votina the taxes by the Slates , and ef their participation in the legislative power .
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Lofs or the Bbitish _Sovereign _"Wbaliko Ship , ak _» MuDBBey the Crkw . —Letters were received at Lloyd's on Saturday / dated Sydney , August 17 . communicating the total loss of the barque British Sovereign , a whaling ship , Captain W . _G . Jones , master , on the eastern side of the Sandwich Islands , and tbe reported horrible massacre by tho natives of nearly the whole ofthe ship ' s crew . The vessel left Sydney on tbe Sth day of January last , for New . Zealand , and thence to tbe South Sea Islands . In the course ofthe passage she called at the island of Thanna . where she shipped about twenty of the natives , to assist in procuring sandal wood . Tbe captain then determined to make for Sandwich , first sending back the natives to Thanna ! in the ship's boat , in charge ofthe chief mate , and several of the
men . The ship left Erromanga on the evening of the 23 rd of April , and at day-break the next morning _, the 2 ith , she was _* Yound to be close in upon the eastern coast of Sandwich . She was immediately hauled on a wind , and two boats were lowered for the purpose of keeping her off the land , but being within the influence of tbe ground swell the boatB had no effect upon ber , and sbe soon struck on a rock , within a cable ' s length ofthe shore . She then fell on her broadside , and though her masts were cut , and every means adopted to save the vessel , she in a few hours broke up and became a total wreck . For three days the crew remained near the wreck , in the hope of _saving some of tbe stores , the natives behaving in the kindest manner . The captain and the crew , it should be observed , were
rescued from the rock by the natives , who threw ropes to them from tbe shore . They wished them to remain , but it was considered expedient by the captain to make to the leeward harbour , to w & igJi vessels resort in visiting tbe island . After about four days ' travelling they eame to a bay on tbe south side of the island , where the natives appeared on the same friendly terms . They gave them _sugar-cahe 3 and cocoa-nuts to eat , and the chief to whom they were introduced took great liking to a child , a fine little boy , who was aleng witb the captain . Amidst this apparent good _feeling a tumult broke out among the natives , who fell upon the unfortunate ) crew , wbo were off their guard , and most of them were brutally _slaughtered . The captain endeavoured to escape and retreated into the water . They were , however , toe close upon him , and hisskull was broken in . The man
Weir and three others succeeded in getting clear by springing " forward into the sea , and swimming to a canoe , witb wbich they reached an adjacent island . The natives" pursued them , and Weir ' s cerapanions were overtaken , but their fates were unknown ; Weir contriving to conceal himself in the bush , where he remained for several day ? . Fortunately , the first day be ventured out to the beach , the Isabella Anna hove in eight , when be swam ofiv and was picked up . Tbe number _supposed to have been massacred is twenty-nine , Thb _Kaxsohaj , -Defb . vcbs . —On Monday evening , a , public meeting , to rvcord an expression of opinion with regard to the _nursed probability of anfinvasion , was held at the I . uture Hall , Greenwich . Mr Wade presided ; and having made some introductory observations , Mr D . Payne moved the first resolution * —
That this meeting , believing the system and practice of war to be utterly at variance with tbe spirit and principle of Christianity and tbe true interests of mankind , deeply regrets the attempts wbich have been made , and are still making , to extite in the publio mind a beliefthat war and invasion are imminent , and to ground upon this pretext sn addition to tbe naval and military _establishments of the country . The Rev . Mr Bbbsbii seconded the resolution The resolution was carried unanimously , and was followed by a second , which was supported by the Rev . H . Richard and other gentlemen : It was to the effect : —
That this meeting desires to record its deliberate con . victioa that the apprehension of war and invasion Is ua . founded , snd that an _iacreasBln the existing naval and military forces of the empire , whether by the enlargement of the standing army , the enrolment of the militia , or the establishment of additional fortresses , or by any means whatever , Ie not only uncalled for and nnneeessary , but must inevitably tend to destroy rather than preserve peace , to lower the tone of public morality , to impede the efforts making for the instruction and improvement of tbe people , to retard the great moral reforms now in progress , to burden more heavily the present generation * or their posterity , and to- aggravate the commercial difficulties of the nation _?
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_MoHDAY , _FEBBPABT ? . HOUSE OJ ? LORDS . — _Diplomatic _Rblatiohs with the _Couht of RoHE . —The Marquis of _J **" _!™* begged to lay on the table of the house a bill tor the purpose of enabling her Majesty to establish diplomatic relations with the Court of Rome . He proposed that It be read a second time on Friday next , until which time he sbonld best consult the wishes of their lordships by abstaining from entering into any particulars respecting the measure . .. . .
Lord Stanley would offer no opposition to the bring _, ing in of the bill , but he would net biiid himself to the course he should adopt on the second reading . It might ba desirable that diplomatic relations should exist botween the sovereign of this country « nd the Court of Rome , as temporal princes , but it must be subject to Buch restrictions as might bs necessary to * satisfying th _» _ecrnples of the peopio of tbis country . He thought , ho « ever , that it was precipitate to read a measure of so much importance a second time for the purpose of discussion oa so early a day unless there was some urgent _neeesulty for it which he could sot discover ; and he trusted the noble marquis would give to the house and the country time to consider " tho measure .
The Marqui 3 of Lansbowme had no desire to use an undue precipitation In urging forward the measure . It could not , however , come with surprise either upon their lordships or tbe country , inasmuch as many noble lords had adverted to the subject at different times , qnd before the recess he had stated a very decided opinion upon it himself . When the lords hud seen the bill , if it was then considered expedient he would name a later day for the second rending . The Duke of Richmond thought a bill of so _muchimportancs ought to be well considered . Tbe country would not be prepared for it j and ho was surprised that it had not been intreduoed into tbe Queen's speech . A great portion of the people of England would think that such a measure violated their religious feelings .
Earl Frizivilliah had no _diiubt that some persons would think their religious feelings violated by such a measure ; but he was confident that the great mass nf the people would not eTen feel their religious prejudices offended by the introduction ofa measure by whieh her Majesty was enabled to remove a doubt whether her ministers would not be liable to persecution and venalties if they entered into diplomatic relations with , tho Pope as a temporal prince . The Earl of Eglinqtok was surprised at the baste with with which it was proposed to discuss the merits of such a measure . It was impossible that the people of Scotland would bave been able to read it before the discussion on it would be token _.
Wbst . Inbia Colonies . —Lord Stanley , in presenting several petitions from the West _Indies , complaining of the act ol 1846 , and praying for relief , said it would bs convenient , _considering the interest which tho subject excited throughout the country , to state generally the views entertained by the petitioners of the state of the West India colonies , and the remedies which they suggested ; as also bow far he was disposed to concur in their propositions . Although there were d fferent recommendations in the petitions , yet in their main allegations they all cuncurred , They all alleged that the sugar-planting interest was in a most depressed and alarming state , which had been produced by the passing of the act of the session before the last . ( Hear . ) His lordship read documents to show tho
pecuniary distress of the West India _proprietary , and stated that be bad been assured by one of those proprietors , t > at at this moment , neither in Jamaica , Deroerara nor Trinidad—our threo great sugar-producing colonies—was it possible to raise £ 1 , 000 upon the security of any single property in any of those islands . The Emancipation Ae \ he observed , had been intended to be accompanied by other moasures , and nothing conld be more unfounded than to flay that by tho payment of the tweet ; millions the claims or the West In . dian proprietors were extinguished , and tbat the question was closed . A modifiedslarery—the apprenticeship system—was an essential portion of the scheme of emancipation , and a great part of the object of tbe measure would bave been _frustratfd if it caused a
diminution of the _prsduction ef sugar . The nobis lord then showed the amount and cost of _production in tbe three periods , prior to emancipation , during the apprenticeship system , and since tbo introduction of absolutefroe labour ; and he deduced from these data the conclusion tbat from an early period of our _legislate n upm tbe _Bubjoct of labour , in 1833 , practical difficulties and pecoliar obstructions had heen thrown in the way of tbe sugar planters in the Wtat Indies , for which they had a claim upon tbe consideration of Parliament , His lordship then pointed out the injustice and inconsistency of our legislation in relation to the West India colonies , inasmuch as it had exposed their free labour to a competition with slave-labour , whilst tbe discriminating duty was reduced from 12 s . to 7 s ., which ope .
rated as . a bounty upon slavery ; and whilst we were wasting life and treasure upon the _pestiferous coast of Africa for an object confessed to be hopeless , we were paying millions to the slaveholders of Cuba , His lordship traced tbe enormous losses sustained last year upon ( sugar to the . act of 1816 ; and noticed the remarkable fact that whilst there was a fall of 10 s ., lis ., and 13 s . par cwt . upon West India , Mauritius , and East India sugars , upon Cuba , sugar there bad been not only no fall at all , but an actual rise of Ss . per cwt . His lordship vindicated the claim put forth by West Indian colonies for a repeal of the Navigation Laws , on the ground that If their interests were to succumb to tbe doctrine of free trade , tbe interests ef our seamen _, as well as of oar distillers and brewers , must in like manner give way : the Rubicon passed , everything must
yield to the doctrine . Upon the subject of free labour , his _lordsbip _entsrtainad some doubt whether a supply of free labour could be obtained from the _coaBt of Africa sufficient to produce a material reduction of the . price of labour in the WeBt , whilst he very much feared that it might revive the slave-trade , or at least stimulate intestine wars in Africa , not for the purpose of making slaves , but to supply the demand for emigrants . Upon the whole , his opinion was , that , do what we would , it was impossible tbat , in the _presvnt state of'the West Indies and of our colonies in every part of tbe world , we could compete on equal terms with the slave colonies of other nations , and that the depression and distress of onr . sugar-growers conld only be remedied by returning to the system of differential duties which existed In 1846 .
Eabl Gbet did not deny that much distress prevailed in eur West India colonies , bat he dissented from Lord Stanley ' s opinion tbat it had been caused by our legislation in 1846 . Whilst the distress of these colonies was in eome degree occasioned by circumstances special to the West Indies , yet in part also it had been greatly aggravated by tbe peculiar circumstances of the present time , which bad affected all branches of trade . For several months after the passing of tbe bill of 1818 tbe sugar market wai not in a worse state than before ; the great fall of prices bad been the result of the gentral paralysis of commerce , and tbeir distress was traced by the West Indians _thfmselvesto _' a period long antecedent to 1846 . Tbe real oause of tbe distress of the West India colonies was to be found in the mistake committed
in 1823 ; the defective character of tbe Emancipation Act was the true and origin al _. cause ofthe whole distress . Tbat defect consisted in the absence of proper provisions for giving tbe emancipated negroes an adequate motive for labour , the Legislature having betn content to adjourn the _difficulty for a tew yearn by continuing a modified slavery , as it bad been termed by tbe noble lord . One great source of the difficulties of the plaster was the existence in this country of that system of protection for his produce so . much cherished by him , which _among-ft other _eviJs , fended directly to limit tbe amount of labour available to the planter . The higher tbe prices tbe planter obtained , the higher wages bis spirit of competition tempted him to offer , and tbe mors the negro got for bit labour , the less time he found it
necessary to work ; so that ( as _appeared from documentary evidence ) the higher tbe wages given to the labourers in the West Indies , tbe less waB the amount of labour tbey performed . Was it just that the hard-working cissies in England should pay £ 3 , 500 , 009 a y Br ta keep np wages in Demerara r With regard . to emigration from Africa , his opinion very much coincided with tbat of Lord Stanley ; but although he was aware that such a system of emigration was open to abuse , every precaution would ba adopted to counteract it , and to make tbe returning Kroomen a means not only of _rsconciling their contrymen to tho journey , but of improving tha social habits of tbe Africans , The noble earl explained to their lordships the measures meditated by tbe government , acknowledging , at the same time , that io was not sanguine in believing that _thesa measures would have any material iffect in putting an end to colonial distress . But what had been proposed by Lord Stanley
when at the head of the colonial department ! Tbe only measure he had adopted was tbat of 1 W 4 . which broke in upon tbo principle of protection against slavegrown sugar . The noble lord ' s justification waa that ef ths _present government _; slave labour , notwithstanding the revival of an antiquated and obselete theory , was really dearer tban free labour ; a moral wrong never could in the end be profitable . The noble earl showed that at this moment free labour in the West IndieB waB cheaper than slave labour had been prior to emanclpa . tion . Bnt the system of cultivating and of _maaufacturiGg sugar in tbe West Indies by the intervention of agents ( the proprietors redding in England ) must be abandoned ; and where estates had been-crdtlv & _ted oy resident proprietors , tbey had been profitable . He believed that capital , if judiciously and skilfully applied , conld not be invested anywhere with more advantage than in Jamaica
The Biihop of OxroBB _, In presenting a petition to tho same effect _frons the council and assembly of _Barbadeen , urged that tha people of England could not possibly share in the profits of Cuba sugar without incurring some share of the Cuba guilt , by which tbat Bugar was produced ; neither could tb ey participate in the guilt without incurring the chastisement which awaited it . If tbe principles of the government _measure were successful the abolition struggle would become 0 disgrace instead of an honour to this country , and the measures taken for tbe ' _suppression of the slave trade , while they would add to its horrors , would be neither more nor less tban as insulting and degrading hypocrisy .
Lord Abhboeton considered tbat unless protection were continued to the West India colonies , as against slave labour , they wonld be consigned to utter ond Irreparable ruin , Their lordship * adjourned at tea . o ' clock _.
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HOUSE OP COMMONS . _—Tarlous _slwtfon petitions on the subject of irregularities as to the taking of _rocognissnees before the Examiner , were referred to the Cheltenham _oommittee , in which case the question was first raised . The presenta tion of petitions for and _igainst tho Jewish Disabilities Bill , tho former largely preponderating , _ocsopied tho house for a _coupls of hcur _% On the motion for the ss « ond reading of the bill , Mr STABPo & D moved as an amendment that it be _raad a second time that day six months . The last of three great questions respecting religion must now ba _answsrwl by the home in the affirmative or negative . The first was ' Should we persecute V by wbich h « understood , Should we fine , imprison , and _oxncuteV That had
already boen answered in the nogative . Tho next wbb , having ceased to p « Hecute , having given to all sects tolerance and connivance , should we cons « nt to allow them to _exerclsB the administration of the laws , which we liad _OUrselveB _pngied ? That had been _answered In tb * affirmative , and , as he thought , wis » Iy . Tha last _question which the house had then to answer was , should wa admit them to legislate fer us and assist us in the enactment of laws for tho protection of Christianity ! It was no answer to those who objected to such admission , to _u : < y that we first struggled for a Catholic , and thsn for a _Protectant , and that w _» were now struggling for a Christian Parliament ; for tha two first struggles wer » only struggles of degree , but tha last struggle ia _astrugirl * of kind . He called upon the house , when It had removed
What was now called ' the last remnant of persecution , ' and when it had passed tbis bill and had admitted tbe Jims into Parliament , to dotermino what it would do with it * OTdinary forms . Ita ordinary forms required that those wbo wished to secure their seats should write their names on printed cards whicii had only two words printed on them , ' At prnjera . ' A _Ulunk was life for thv name of the member . Now , could the name Lionel de Rothncbild ever fill up that blank ? If it could , then the Booner such an absurdity was removed the better ; Dut if it could not , would not _Lionel de _Itothsc _' iild have a right to say , 'You told me , when I was elected a member of
Parliament , that religion had nothing tedo with politics ; why , then , do you call upon me to assist in the worship of o _» e whom I deom an imposter ? Again , it had been said tbat we placed tho Jewish decalogue orer our _xltam , and therefore we might safel ; admit the Jews into the legislature . But that observation led him to another ; we had changed the day of tho Sabbath , and had compelled the Jew to sbnt bis shop for traffic both on his Sabbath and on our own . Now , H appeared to him to be a greater hardship to compel the Jens to close tbeir shops for fifty-two days in th _? year than to ex . elude tbem from parliament . How : then , could it be justly urged that this bill would remove ' the last
remnant of persecution , ' when you would still compel the Jews to close their shops for traffio for two months in the year , and tbat , too , in honour of one wfeom they declared to be an impostor ? The _quostion , then , came to this—* Was tbe house _prepared to give up Sunday ! ' H _» then adverted , but , as he said , with deep pain , to another question which had been asked in the course of this debate . It had been asked what wbb tho great difference betwoen the Christian and the Jew ? His answer was this—A Jewish peasant had changed the reli _gion of ths world . When ho was brought before the tribunals Ot hiB
country , bis countrymen exclaimed that they w . uld not have bim as king to reign over them . Since that time a cry had gone np to Heaven from country after country , We will have this man to reign over us . We accept the immense array of _jrophecy as the proof of his . glorious godhead . Strong in bis rule we will live , and strong in his faith we hope to dh . ' There was therefore a difference immutable aad eternal between those who looked on the _crosa of Christ as tho punishment of a malefactor , and those who looked upon it as the best hope of happiness here , and tho only hope of happiness hereafter .
. Lord _BrsQBLST seconded tbe amendment , because it appeared to him that this bill enacted that , if a man had money enough and influence enough to become a member of Parliament , it was no matter whether he was a Christian or not . If it were passed , every form of the constitution which gave us assurance of Christianity , must bo abolished . Mr W . P . Woon supported the bill on religious far mora than on political grounds ; for he considered it essential that we should forthwith abolish those laws which attached disgrace to the legislature of England , and rtfljetod it upon the church of England , which he believed to be the best form of Christianity , Religious opinions should not be used as a qualification or a dis qualification for political office ; for he undertook to
show that it was verj far from being the principle of the Christian religion to mingle Itself with the political administration of affairs . Prom tbe earliest times Chris * tianity had kept itself distinct from politics ; and it was only coincident with the corruptions wbich crept into it that the Church was found in union with the State . There was no positive precept to ba found in Divine writ for the union of the Church and State , and the absence ot Buch a pTeccpt following on tba theocracy of the Jews was a clear proof that no such union was intended . Hu then entered into an able historical dis . quisitlon to prove that itwas not till the reign of Theodosiua tbat any question had arisen as to the interference of the State with religion ; asd contended , upon tbe authority of Protestant divines , that it was not till then
that the corruptions of religion were introduced . Then aro se that _eystom of persecution which crept into Europe , and which afterwards was adopted by our ancestors , not founded _% n tbe truthB of Christianity but on Papal decrees and rescripts . He theu proceeded to deny that Christianity was part and parcel of tbe law of tho land , eo far ns regarded tbe queatien then before the house . NoDcof , the _statutes wbich applied to heretics Applied to the Jews , and thut the dicta of Lord Hale , Lord Hay . moud , and Lord Hardvricke on tbe point that ' Christianity was part and pared of tbe English law , ' could not b » justly applied so as to deprive the Jews of civil rights and privileges . He then examined the pesitisn of Lord Coke , that the _Jitvs were aliens , and joined with Lord Chief _Justice Wills in holding it up to ridicule and
oontempt . In all the earl ; Acts of _Parliament , imposing tests and qualifications , the case ofthe Jens _waseasus omis $ us , and it waa not till an act passed at tbo close of ihe reign of Charles II ., they were excluded from any civil privileges . We had admitted the Jews to exercise Parliamentary privileges in Jamaica and in Canada , and if we had thereby _unehristlaniBed those colonies , how was it that the Imperial Parliament bad sat quiet nnd allowed it te be done 1 It was a mere play on words to talk of a ' Christian' legislature and a' Christian ' country ; and tbe epithet'Christian ' was used in a different sense in each phrase . The legislature might be called Christian at present , for none but
ChriB'inntt were now members of it ; but the countrj wag not Christian in the tamo sense , for many perions not Christians now lived in it . Ho wished tbe bouse , when so-much was said about Christians , to act upon Chrlttiau principles ; _ani the first Christian principle was , to do to others as you would have others do to you . It was on that principle he supported this bill . We allowed the Jews to intermarry with us—we compelled thtm to fill municipal offices—we forced them to pay t > _xet—and he contended that it was gross , monstrous , and unchristian to make use of tbe Jews for our own purposes , and not to admit tbem to all the _privileges of tbe State .
Mr B Cochrane and Lord ilahon opposed the bill , Mr It Milnes supported it . ' Sib W _MfiBawoBiH after looking at the question in a _purliammtary and constitutional light , and showing the position in which the bouse would pkee itself by throwing out Baron Rothschild , concluded with the following _tloqnent remarks en tbe mischievous effects of persecution : —I do not , however , mean to assert that the question under the consideration pf the hoUBO is to be _settled bj mare precedents , for it is , in fart , a queBtion between t « o great principles , that bave bnttltd against each other sinco tbe commencement of civilisation . On the ene side is the principle of religious ( quality , on tbe other tbe _antagonist principle tbat the _Btntelsoompettnt to determine , and ought to determine , what religion is
the trun religion . Now , this doctrine of thereligious infallibility of the state has been in all ages aud among all people tbe plea for the crimes of intolerance and persecution . Under that plea Socrates was put to death , and the Ssviour was crucified . Under that plea the Pagan _Emperora immolated tke early Christians ; the Albigen _« _es w _«> re _slaughtered , and our- own fires were lighted in Smlthfleld . Under tbat plea Catholics burnt Protestants _^ Protestants burnt Catholics . Calvin kin . died the faggot of _Serveta * with tbe approbation of Melancthon ; and oven tbe pilgrim fathers of New England were persecutors , and bung Quakers on tbe gibbets pf Massachusets ! ( Loud cheers . ) Under the same plea , in modern times , we excluded _Disset-tcrs from our corporations , and Catholic * from Parliament ; and fer the Bame reason Jews are now refused a Beat in the British House of Commons . Butreligious liberty has triumphed
over the rude bigotry of antiquity and the cruel persecution j of our forefather *) , and it will ultimately achieve a victory over the milder intolerance of hon . gentlemen opposite ; nnd the result will be peace and goodwill among men of every faith who are subjects of the _Brilish empire . In legislating on this question , let us re . member that we are not merely tbe representatives oftho people ft tbis small island , wbich is inhabited by man of _puo race , one language , and one religion ; but wa art the rulerB over a mighty empire , over millions on' millions of human beings of evory race , every languagp , and every religion , and we are likewise the parent _etook whence in future ages Btill mightier empires may spring . In the eminent position that we have obtained through the energy of our forefathers nrd . of ourselves , famed as we are throughout the world for sagacity , prudence , and _forethought , our practical decisions on the great _questions that offeot the interests of the bnman race
ere _watched with intense anxiety by all intelligent and reflecting men . Every onward step that England takes is a step In the civilisation of the world ; and the policy of England will _« radu » Hy become the policy of all enlifihtenea nations . To the principle of civil liberty one * commercial freedom , let ns join in the government of this empire the third great principle—of religion a equality . ( Hear , hear . ) Now is tbe time , now that the electors of London , the wealthy and energetic citlzeno of this commercial metropollB of the Universe have chosen as their representative a gentleman professing tbe Jewish faith ; and , let me remark that wherever Jews are to be found , despised ; persecuted , and oppressed , in Germany or Poland , in Russia or Asia Minor , tbe result of tbis election'for the city of nouuon has bum hailed by Ibem v » hh . joy and _exultation as elevating them in the social stale , and put-
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ting them on an equality with their follow mon ; for ad . mission into tbe British House of Commons is justly considered to be a mark of higher distinction to thoir race than any title or honour that monarchs oan bestow . ( Cheer * . ) Now , let us confirm tbis decision of our foremost _citisene . Now is the time to declare , that as legislators we hare no _bosiness with articles of faith ; that the laws Bhould be _Bilent on all questions of religion ; and that as the adherents of every creed are to bo found among the subjects of the British empire , adding to its wealth , augmenting its resources , and increhsing Ita power , so they should all possess the same civil rights nnd privileges as citizens ; and thus let us sweep away the last relics ef the ancient reign of imbecile bigotry and intolerance in its dotago . ( Loud _cheera . )
Mr WaiPJta contended that the reasons for admitting the Jew , who laboured under no practical grievance , into Parliament , did not predominate over those urged for excluding bim frem it . ' The Legislature must be Christian in order that the lawe mi ght be enacted and the church governed on prinoiples peculiarly Christian , This country always had been Christian ; Christianity was a fundamental law of it as a state ; and a fundamental law ought not to be altered , - unless a majority ef the p » _ople called for , and unless the Legislature itself approved its alteration . In smp . pling with the speech of Mr Wood , he entered into several legal details , to prove that from the timo of the Conquest downwards it had always been ' considered to be an undeniable axiom that Christianity wa . i _part and parcel of the law of _England . He insisted that
sufficient reason had not been given for tbe changes which it was now proposed to make in the law . He denied that , because we bad given tbe Jews the elective franchise , we ought also to giro them tbe right if being elected , and instanced the case of the clergy , who could elect legislators , yet conld not themselves be elected . Tbe Jew was of a sepnrato creed and interest ; he was not n _tfiizen of this country but of the world ; he had no land which he could call his own sure the land of promise , — and bew could it bo argued that be ought to be admitted within the walls of Parliament whioh even a naturalised alien could not enter ? He next adverted to the argument that tbe constitution of England was an expansive constitution , and that the Jow ought therefore to be embraced within its folds ; and in reply , said that tbongh Catholio ini _Dissenten were admitted into
Parliament , we were not divested thereby of onr character as a Christian people . If there were onj people more than another to whom he would extend indulgence , tbat people were the Jewish people ; and It was not until he had considered the subject well that he felt it incumbent to vote as he proposed to vote , When he reflected on their peculiar history—on all they bad been , nnd on all they were , —rich in recollections of the past , and rich also in tbsir anticipations of the future—and when he bore in mind , as he _n-as _baund to bear in mind , that this people had , as it were the _premise that at some period they would again be the favoured people of God ; wben he considered these things , be owned that he felt for the Jews SO deep a _sympathy , that he would extend
for them every _indulgence that a Christian member ofa Christian legislature could conscientiously extend . ( Cheers . ) Bat believing as he did that Christianity was so interwoven with the principles of the state , tbat tbey could not ho separated the one from the other ;—» nd fearing , as he did , the detrimental effect of such a men ' - sure as that which was proposed , he would not consent to dostroy or weaken that national character , based as it was upon Christian precept , whioh had so greatly contributed to the moral and political elevation of thenation . The hon . and learned member concluded with _exprts . sing his conviction that our national prosperity lay deep sunk in our national religion , any blow struck at our national religion would shake tke pillars of our national prosperity .
Mr _Shkil said had the hon . and learned gentleman been a member of the parliament In which the right hon . member for Tamirorth brough t forward his measure for Catholic Emancipation , tbe speech he had just dolivered would have been almost ss opposite on that as on this occasion . The hos . and learned gentleman , with . i' bis habits of forensic discrimination , could scarcely point out any arguments in bis _epeecb which might not have been urged , with equal effect , on either occasion , ( Hear , hear . ) The hou . and learned gentleman had referred to that part of the writ calling them together , which bore especial reference to the Anglican church . He would ask whether this point was not as applicable to the Unitarian * , to _, the Baptists , to the Independents , to the Roman Catholics 1 ( Hear , hear . ) A great part of the . hon . and learned gentleman ' s speech , indeed , might
have been used with equal force against Lord Ljndburst ' s proposition for the _muoioipal enfranchisement of the Jews , Tbe question for the house , howover , was whether , having gone so far , they ought not to go _further , and efface from the statute-book the remnant of intolerance which still _disgraced it in relation to our Jewish _fellow-auVjects . It appeared to him tbat from the liability to duties tho enjoyment of rights ou » ht not to be dissociated , and that as erery Jew born in _Eagland was bound to every duty appertaining to a British _subject , he was of right entitled to every privilege tbat a British subject enjoyed , ( Hear , hear , ) Hu was aware tbat the disabilities imposed on Jews were simply called privations , but all _privations resolved themselves into the character of penalties , and to the mind of tbe Jew the privation now sought te be removed presented itself
in the harshest aspect . Ha could speak as a quasi witness in the matter . Often , ero _tha . actof' 29 was conceded , he had sat under the gallery ot St Stephen ' s Chapel , and _witness * d the agonies under which the great soul whose energies had effected Catholic emancipation writhed , until that emancipation was obtained . O'Connell , the champion of truth and reason , was morally at the head of millions , writhing , Me himself , under injustice . The Jews of this country numbered not their millions ; their force consisted solely in the arguments of truth and reason ; bet with an _assembly , representing , aB that houaa did , cot merely the intellect , but tbe treat _misuMness also ofthe nation , those arguments could not but avail . Hou . gentlemen opposite admitted that nothing but necessity could justify tbe exclusion of
British subjects fr _^ m that house . Of . this plea of necessity , so readily misapplied , let the house take good heed . It was a plea which bsd been n » ed in justification of the most monstrous _tjrannhs—of the grossest wrongs , What waa it they feared ! What was the aim—what the moaning , of tbis Hebrew-phobia t ( Hear , hear , and a laugh . ) Did they tremble for the church ? The church might , indeed , have some reason for fear in our eight millions of Roman Catholics , our three millions of Methodists , our million and a half of New Catholics ; sbe might have something to fear from sectarianism assailing her without , and from spurious popery and mutiny within , —( hear , hear , )—but from the neutral , apathetic , tranquil , _unprostlytiuicg synagogue , be assured that she had nothing to fear . ( Hear , hear . ) It was said that the introduction ol the Jews into the bou > e nould un .
christianise the house . In his opinion , the Christianity of the house depended on the Christianity of the country —bo meant by Christianity the belief in Christ risen from the dead—was fixed in , and inseparably intertwined with , the affections of the people . He considered tbe Christianity of these islands to be as stable as the islands themselves—( hear , hear , )—and tbat bo long as the constitution of _Sngland lasted , so long as parliament itself endured , go long would the _houae-the burnished and _usbrokeu mirror of the national mind—reflect tho religious feeling of the nation . ( Hear , hear . ) Herein he viewed the true security of tbe Christian faith of England , and nut In a formal test , at which , indeed , the honest man would pause , but whioh tbe sardonic sceptic _woald contemptuously overleap . ( Hear , hear ) Reference had been made to the illustrious name of Gibbon ;
a still higher name might hare been adduced in illustration , tbat of Bolingbroke , a man who , rich iu external accomplishment , full to OTcrfloning of intellectual endowment , trod down In scorn the test which would bave excluded the Jew , and made of that _honsp the steppingstone to the pinnacle of power . There was no warrant in Scripture for tbis imposition of a temporal penalty with tho view of propagating divine truth ; there was no such dogma found In the mouth of Him wbo laid down his life for mankind , and whose last words were an invocation of raeroy on those who had sacrificed Him , teeing tbat 'thry knew hot what they did . ' But alas fer frfil and fragile human naturo , ho sooner had the professors of _Christianity become associated with temporal authority , than they turned the se verities which they themselves bad suffered against tbeir Jewish
brethren . The Jew was selected as the special olject of infliction . The history otthu Jewi through centuries wbb one track of blood , and one train of torture . Men of mercy _occasionally aroie to , interpose on their ba . half . The great St Bernard had taken their part , but tbe light tbat appeared in the Abbey of Clalrveaux was faint and evanescent , and was followed by centuries of new darkness and new _ptrsecutiona . The refermation did notbiDg for the Jews , all were still agsinst tbem—Lutherans , Calvinists , Protestants , Presbyterians—all wbo had torn to pieces the _garments of the Saviour bad alike terribly sinned in their regard . But it was some consolation to a Soman Catbolie to know _thtUiu Roman Catholic countries an exception was now made in tbeir favour . In Belgium and in France all distinction between Christian and Jew bad been abolished . ( Hear )
He trusted that Protestant _England would fellow tbat _bright example . ( Hear , hear . ) A . great deal of the p rejudice which had existed at one time in this country was bi ginning to disperse . London had made a noble manifestation of its feeling .. Was the house prepared to throw back tbe Jew on London , in order that London might through back the Jew ; on the house f Not only was the disqualification of the Jewinconsistent with the _spirit of the Christian religion , but those very disabilities impeded tbe progress of Christianity , prevented the eovmmon ef the Jews , and produced _tffects diametrically the reverse of those which tbey were intended lo produce . The disabilities imposed upon tbe Jew were not sufficiently onerous to bo compulsory ; but tbey were sufficiently vexatious to make conversion a _synonoane
for apostacy , and' to affix a stigma to uninterested conformity witb the established religion . ( Cheers . ) We had struck off the soaster fetter , with whioh the Jenbad been bound by tbe neck and foot ; but the fetters remained , tbongh apparently light , we ' re Strang enough to fasten the Jew to bis faith , and to make it a matter of discredit to bim should he desert his creed . ( Hear . ) Nutbing effectual would be done in this country towards the extinction of Judaism until a restitution of bis birthright as au Englishman was made to every one , no matter what religion ho professed . Some entertained the idea that there waa no auob . thing aa an English , a Spanish , or on Italian Jew _; they held that a Jew was a Jew , and nothing else ; they supposed tha t hie nationality was engrossed by the country of his hope and re
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collections , and that the house of Jacob must remain for ever in a state of isolation and restraint . It _kus not wonderful , wben the Jews were oppre » sed _, _irriiatri ) , „ nd branded , that tbey should have felt , on thu banks of the Seine and Thames , as their _fVrifathors felt when weep _, ing by the waters of B » bylow ; it was not wonderful that the psalm of exile shou _ld have been found tha language of their beans . ( Hear , hear . ) But what had been already done bad produced a most _sigoal alteration , In proportion as tbe laws against the Je _^ had been mitigated the love of country had _bsen revived ,
British feeling had taken root in his _hoarf , and nothing but perfect justice was required for its full development . ( Hear . ) Lst the Jew be emancipated , let all distinctions between him and the Christian be _iibolisbed , and Ms heart would bo filled with perfect attachment to his country ; his exultations ond his sorrows would be the same as ours—his heart would beat with the same palpitation at the news of British victory—and , if ever there should bt ) need , hia life-blood would bo poured out for his country with the sama prodigality as our own . ( Loud cheers ) .
After an ineffectual attempt to adjourn the bouse , Hr >' ewdeoat £ made a speech _against > be Bill ; but the fraction of tbe speech most worthy of notice , was his assertion that money had been plentifully distributed throughout the metropolis , for the purpose of getting up petitions in favour af the Bill , the scale of prices being Is , GJ . for the first hundred _signatures , Si . ior . the next , and 5 s for every hundred tbat followed _. The debate was then adjourned on the motion of Mr Charles _Piabbon . Tho West Indian committee was then appointed on tho motion of Lord G . Bestisck _, and the Louse _adjournidat half-past twelve .
TUESDAY , _Fmrdart 8 . HOUSE OF LORDS —Mkbcantile _Stiam _Navv . — A conversation ensued , at the instance of Ljrtl Cot-CFJEsTIIl , on the subject of the mercantile steam _iiiivy , on the occasion of his _morintj lor returns relative thereto , witb the view of ascertaining whether they could no made available fur the purposes of w > r if they should be r _« quired . His impression was , tbat there were _aixty-tlireo ef such _vesoels having contracts with the government , but which at present were not fit for war purposes _. The Earl of Auckland could assure the noble lord that a report had been made as to the condition ofthe contract vessels at tbe end of 184 G , and they would be placed at the disposal of the government on the event of a war .
The Earl of _Eixstisesoucu asserted that this country aad the government of India were paying £ 500 , 000 a year more than was necessary for the conveyance of letters to India ; he thought , therefore , _vesrels _, whose proprietors possessed such advantage . " , should be ready foi" the service ot' the country at any time when they " might be required . Relations with Rome . —The Marquis of Lansdownb was understood to intimate that the second _reading ofthe bill to eDable ber Majesty to establish diplomatic relations witb Rome would be taken on Thursday so ' n ' w ht . Lord _EaiiNToN thought tbat , should such relation bo established , care should bo takeu that the minister who represented the See of Rome at our Court iliould not bo an icclesiastie . Unless the bill contained sobs _provision to this eff . et , bs gave notice of his intention to _movo for the insertion of one .
The Marquis of _Lansdow . ne observed that , in his opinioa , the interests ofthe Churuh in this country would not only bo injured , but would bo benefittei by the step meditated . K it could ba shown that such would not be the caae , her Majesty ' s government would not persevere with the measure _. This voluntary pledge imparted to the Bishop of Exeteb great tranquillity of mind , and would , he said , enable him to consider tbe provisions of the bill with a calmer spirit than ho could otherwise have preserved . Ttuir lordships then adjourned-HOUSE OF COMMONS . —Canteens in Babbacks _. — In reply to a question from Colonel Lindsay , Mr F . Maniksaid that , _thouuh tho government could not nt once do away with canteens in barr _. ukj , they would , as tho present leases expire , prohibit spirituous liquors to be sold in barracks . Irish Registration Bill . —To a question from Mr S . _O'BBlBtf ,
Sir W . _Sojkeviue replied . that it « as the _Mention of the government to introduce n Registration Bill for Ireland . _Lbate op Absencx was granted to Mr Ludlow Bruges for one month , and to Mr Thomas _Daucouibe ior two moDtlis . both on account of illness , Thb Niw _Honsjes of Pabliament —Mr Hdme said , he wished to ask the Speaker of the house what he was to do with regard to certain returns wbich had been presented in consequence of their ordir _, obtained at bis instance , relative to the expenses of the New House of C . _uimons ! He had moved for an ac : ount showing what was the total amount voted , what had been paid , and what was owing ; and , the original estimate for the works _having been about £ 700 , 000 . he found by the return that up to the end of 181 ( 1 , £ S 13 , 0 U 0 had been expended , and an _axtiinate was given that about half a million more would be required , _indi-pendent of £ 160 , 000 voted l » styuar , and _nottskvn into aeeoont . It would
seen , , therutore , tbat the total expenditure was not to ba £ 7 _no eoe , but £ 1 , 40 : 1 , 600 ; but in this account he found that no estimates whatever were included as t < a tbe cost of purchasing the buildings on the south aide of Bridgestreet , or as to other works and fittings , including decorations , upholstery , the cost of restoring St Stephen's chapel , & e ., _& e ., all of which , he bcliev « d , would cost half a _roiliion more at least , ( Hear , hear . ) Such an account as tbis seemed to him calculated very much to confuse the house , and he thought it _highly necessary that the attention cf the government , of Parliament , and ofthe country , should be called to it . An bon . _gentleman b' _-low him , however , had takeii upon himself to insist upon moving far the appointment . of a committee in this case . If lie intended so to do , then would certainly bo tbe most convenient time for discussing ths matter ; and in such case be would postpone his observations , What he would ask , therefore , was when that hon . gentleman proposed , if at all , to _brisg forward his motion _t
Sir R . H . Iholu _sai- _' , that lo reply to this queBtion , ' when , if at all , he intended to bring forward his motion , 'he had onl y to say that although he did give notice of a motion on the subject , somewhere about the 15 th of December last , yet be was so far frem wishing to take it upon himself to move the appointment of such a committee , that he should bo very unwilling to do so unless with the general concurrence of the house . Even it he wa » likel y to carry his motion only by a very small majority , he should not be at aU inclined to press it _. It was one of no great public interest—it involved no question of public principle . It weuld involve a sacrifice of time on bis part tbat he was by ho means anxi . _oqs to make , and he had bo personal interest in tha matter whatever to gratify . If , however , it were the pleasure of the bouse to support bim in the appointment : of z _cetfimittee , he would bring forward the measurehe could not say exaetly upon what day—it certainly would not be any day in the present week ;
Mr _Osbokns ( after a pause ) said this matter _assumed so very unsatisfactory a . character , that he theuriit he wai justified in a > kingthe noble lord , the First Com . miasioner r _. f Woods and Forests , whether he would have any objection to lay upon the table a detailed estimate , showing that £ l 400 , 000 . would ba all that would be required ? He would al 6 o ask if tha Woods and Forests held themselves responsible for all that was ordered ? Viscount Mobpeth . —The amount _mentioned by ih © hon _gt'ullemau k the amount of lb * _architeei ' d estimate , and I can only say I hope ha will be able to bear it cut . ( Loud laughter . ) After another pause _.
Mr Osbobmk _eaid : Really , after thl 3 answer , and _consideriuir that we have a deficient and a _Binking revenue , I think I am entitled to put a question to the First Lord of the Treasury , and I beg to ask tbat noble lord if he is prepared to check this enormous expense , and if be will give thia house and . the country soma assurance _thst no more than the £ 1 , 400 , 000 , specified in the estimate , shall be spent ? ( Cries of' Hear , hear . ' ) , Lord J . Russell- Itis impossible for me to say _mcra than my noble friena has said . ( Oh . ) I must declina to be responsible for any architect ' s estimate . ( Laughttr . ) MrOsBoasE—Then , sir , I will call attention to the subject upon tbe first order of the day . ( ' Hear , hear , ' and cheering . ) Okdek 01 Business—Ma Anstet ' s
Motion—Tuesday being a day on whieh notices of motion have precedence of orders of the day , the debate upon the Jewish Disabilities Bill could not , in regular course , come oa until after the motions had been _dispostd of . There _wure several ' notices of motion ' on the paper , tKe first being tbat of Mr Chisholm _Anstey _, relative to the _fureuja policy « f the government ; the time having arrived fur tbe paper to be regularly gone through-Mr Bomb rose to submit to the hon . member for _Youghsl whether , considering that an important debate on tt uational question had bten _adjourned to that night , it waa prudent in him to bring forward u _BiOtiBil , containing toity articles , every one of which would give rise to nn ordinary day ' s debate , to the interruption of the adjourned debate . He did not make _*•» _»««•; like 1 tuberaised
with the view of shirking tbe _questions :, by the hon . gentleman's motion , because he was * n _^ t anxious thaf the , should be _detate-l . ¦ but the _jmua having bBln _breug ht _togeiher ¦ _,.,, . J _™* « » _££ public interest aa the question a *™ ""* _"' ... ' _j a bringing forward another q estio _^ 8 _^ OUS »» P- _V _^ _taI , _C"ir would take the hint , bate , be trusted th . T h"n ra _^ pPortunity t , r discussion . _iTsZX _i _^ » _^ _ndment under m In w " _' before tbe hon . member rose , to as-9 rht that _U was « he universal wish of members on that side of the house to close tho debate that evening . If therefore , the hos . member did proceed , It would be against the senBe of the whole body of the house .
Mr O . _Anstex _begged to _assure the hen . _gentleman who bad last spoken that If anything personal could havo induced him to postpone this motion it would be his request _; but he must put It to tbe house tbat be was not fairly treated in this _niatti r , —tbat he was very unfairly dealt witb . An appeal had been made to him in private and he had gWsn a _Baiialaetoyy answer to it , and toss answer he had tow to repeat , It was simply this , _Lss
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 12, 1848, page 7, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/ns3_12021848/page/7/
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