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_^ OREIG _^ _iS-TEWJGENCE . " ( Concluded from die Second Page . ) ( From the- Daily News . ' ) ilAB . CH ~ _GS' THE ROMA-SS AGAINST THE NEAPOLITANS _—Boms _, May 4 . —To-day sets out tbe expedition against King Bomba : itis 15 , 000 strong , and commanded by Garibaldi . Nothing can equal the encouraging shouts bestowed by the ladies on the troops as they " pass through the streets to tbe gate of St . John Lateran . The king is said to be at Laricia , behind Albano ; part of his force is at _Valmontone , under Zucchi . Princes Doria and Borghese are in the ranks , or else with the baggage carts , and yet their splendid palaces in Rome are held inviolate by the people . , . . _T ? I * t " B ** r TnXT . TXi'nr . _r-V-, _^ 'ii * r _ i * - •••
From Terni arrived to-day 1 , 500 men , 1 st and 2 nd battalions of the line . The Ponte Molle was Blown ap yesterday ; so this letter goes round b y tiie Sabine territory . From Viterbo came the whole _Rational Guard , with a complete battery of field guns .. Men are coming in more than are panted ; and not a single town or village in the _^ --hoie Roman territory has declared against the present government . The barricades are augmenting in number and in formidable strength . Immense use is made ofthe church confessional boxes , which , being ponderous articles of furniture , are found quite suitable for "blocking op the progress of a ' retrograde * enemy . The mint is coining silver and gold plate night and
_day-BBFEAT OF THE 3 JBAP 0 _"UTA _* SS Br THE BOMAKS . Rome , Maya . —rhe _following official intelligence of the first affair between tbe Roman and Neapolitan _ttoop 3 was published at Rome this day , by the _Minister of Foreign Affairs : — "The following are the particulars of tue first rencontre , on the road between Torre di Mezza and Albano , between our troops and a corps of Neapolitans , which at first were £ 00 in number , but were afterwards increased to 2 . 000 . The enemy were put to -fli _<* b . t , and threw away then-fire-arms , leaving sixty prisoners and two pieces of artillery in our possession , which are now —ihree o ' clock . p . ra . —entering Rome . { Signed ) The Minister , Carlo Rusconi . "
( From the' Daily News . ' ) The French prisoners , of whom we still hold 300 or 400 , on -, of 600 who were captured outside the walls , do _** ot wish to be exchanged ( as Oudinot bas asked ) , but call for arms and permission to be led against the Neapolitans . Not a-angle village has yet declared for the Pope throughout the length and breadth ofthe Roman terr itory . ¦ rhe' National' states that at a Council of War held at General Oudinot * s __ head-quarters at which the Ministers of Great Britain , irance _, and Prussia attended , a reaola'ion was adop-edat the Council to _ttoite the French and Neapolitan troops , and to -march aga * nst Rome . The 'National' states that _zietnithstanding this strange alliance the Romans are dete-mined lojesist .
SARDINIA . —On the morning of the 7 th , the sentence pronounced npon General Ramorino was posted in the streets of Turin . The Council of War "bad condemned him to degradation and death , on the following count : — ' That on the 20 th of March last hebad _kgovingly omitted to take with the fifth divigion of Lombards , then under his command , a strong DOaitiun at La Cava , and thereabouts , on the left Bank of the Po , as be had been directed by a written Older , dated Alessandria , the 16 th of that month , fromthe Commander-in-Chief and that be had re . _maned , contrary to that order , on the right bank of the Fo with the greater part of bis division , thus tennutiug the entrance of the enemy by Pavia , and thereby _endaogeriaj the safety of the Piedmontese army . ' The king mitigated the sentence to tbat of death without degradation . But Ramorino having appealed to the Court of Cassation , the execution las been suspended till the decision ofthat court be _kaown .
SICILY . Palermo _sor-rET Subdued . —The peace governteent had been overturned / by a band of mountaineers , headed by ScordatL Whilst the deputies and principal inhabitants were absent on a . mission to Filangeri , it appears that a celebrated partisan , called Scordati , at the head of an immense number of mountaineers , rushed into the town , disp ' aced the new Provisional Government , and disarmed all the _Ivational Guards who refused to join them . Defiance to the Neapolitans was once more proclaimed , barricades were thrown up , and every possible _prepara iion made for a resolute defence .
INSURRECTION IN CANADA . Liteutool , May 14 . —By the arrival of the British and North American , royal mail steam-ship _Furopa , Captain Lott , in our river this evening , we _ari put in possession of advices one fortnight later than any heretofore to hand . The political news from the United States is not more than ordinarily interesting , but the apprehensions which were felt as to the breaking out of rebellion in Canada have been My and fearfully realised .
On the 25 th nit ., that long discussed and oh-Eorious measure , the Rebellion Losses Indemnity Hill , received the sanction ofthe Governor-General , acd the news being circulated , all the pent-up wrath of the "' loyalists" of the province began forthwith to expend itself . Kiuting immediately became the " - ' " order" of the day . The inhabitants collected c . masse , proceeded to the Parliament House , drove oat all tbe members present by force , and set fire to the building . In a short time the House , library , archives—In fact the entire premises , were one heap of ashes . The firemen and police were called on t «> interfere , but absolutely refused . Emboldened by the success of their attempts , they assaulted Lord Elgin , pelted him publicly with missiles , and severely abused several of the representatives who had become prorain'nt in support of the bill .
Montreal , April 26 . —Yesterday afternoon it was publicly announced tbat his Excellency would go down to Parliament and sanction numerous bills , particularly the one relating to the customs . It was never presumed for one mument , however , that the notorious and detested " rebel bill" was to be one of them . At four p . m ., the hour appointed f « r the ceremony , a fair assemblage of people were collected in front of the parliamentary buildings . It was not till five p . m ., that the governor entered the council chamber , and took bis seat on the throne . In the meantime , a rumour had got abroad that tbe " rebel bill" was , indeed , to be assented to . The report quickly spread , and before the conclusion ofthe _csremonva crowd , numbering about 1 , 500 persons ,
were collected together to receive the representative of British sovereignty , with the long announced honours . The royal sanction was given to fortyeight bills , amongst which , the crowd were informed by those who had been in the interior of she buildings , was the obnoxious bill . About sis oVock bis JExcellency entered his carriage , and was driven off at a rapid rate , amidst curses , yells , hootings , and a Shower of rotten eggs , dirt and stones , lord Elgin had to run the gauntlet of the various missiles , for the distance of 100 yards . The carriage windows were down , and Colonel Bruce was inside with him . "Three eggs entered the carriage , and some struck his _brdship in the face . Horses , equipage , footmen , _Sx , were all completely covered with the unsavoury
_"p-sdea . The staff fared very little better . The iict of the royal sanction having been given tothe "rebellion losses" bill , now spread like wildfire . J > y seven o ' clock alarm bells were ringing all over iae town , and _cries went through the streets calling a mass meeting to be held on the Champ de _•& MS , at eight o ' clock . By the appointed time , upwards of two thousand people had assembled , and by Sine o ' clock it had swelled to 5 , 000 . feieofthe leaders of tbe mob got npon a chair , Sad addressed them in a violent and inflammatory dinner , amidst repeated deafening cheers . He Slid : " The time for action bas arrived . We must _vork .- We hare passed resolutions enough—they have been disregarded . To the Parliament House I "
A chord in the hearts of the vast multitude had been touched , which every heart re-echoed . The moving tiiou 5 _ands , preceded by torches , inarched at a furious rite in the direction of the legislature . By ten p . m . eh jht thousand persons were in front ofthe building : * , _TOerethe Assembly was in full session at tbe time . A . shower of stones " as thick as leaves in Yalam bro"ja _/* were poured upon the windows , which , from tae brilliant manner in which they were lighted , afforded a most tempting mark . When the stones came pouring into the windows , the members of the _asionbly thought it time to retreat , and retired into we lobby , there to await the issue of the events . No _^ oner had the . members left , than about one hundred ofthe mob , armed to the teeth , rushed into tbe ¦ As sembly-room , and their leader , swearing he would « ane Oliver Cromwell over them , placed _l- umself in tiie Speaker ' s chair , assumed the hat , and _announced ,-with stentorian lungs ; '" Gentlemen , the
* rench Parliament is dissolved ! " adding , " and we "re all going to h— 111 " One brawny fellow then seized hold of the mace , which , from theH . _ou > being in committee at the time , lay on the table , and hir ing shouldered it marchfd off . The rest set to work , and the destruction commenced . whilst this body of men were' smashing everything inside the Legislative Assembly room , a cry of fi _|* e was ra _& _leiJyMised . In the meantime Colonel _"Usy , beading the members , clerks , and ladies , rushed throughthe hall of the house , and oat atthe Princi pal floor , agreeably surprised" at not finding _« wmsclves stopped . The fury and rapidity with _Wflich the flames spread can hardly be imagined ; in ' * _isa than fifteen minutes the whole of the wing occupied by the House of Assembly was in flames , and , _o'sing to the intimate communications between the j * o houses , the Upper House was rapidly involved in _wjgamedestmclion . ... _ .: . Iks mob had now amounted to » lm 0 Btiacre _3 ible
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numbers , and remained stoical spectators . of the scene . - The troops arrived shortly afterwards , and were received with loud cheers , which several companies of the 23 rd regiment returned . One soldier , a private , fired his musket in thc air ; he was immediately arrested , and sent to the guard-house . By eleven o ' clock , nothing hut tbe smouldering ruins of the house—in which a measure fraught with injustice and iniquity was introduced , passed , and received the royal assent—remained ; a fitting tribute to the rage of an insulted people .
_ftone regret the loss of the buildings ; everyone the splendid libraries , in which were the archives and records of Canada for hundreds of years ; valuable works from every quarter of the globe were heaped in profaaon within those walls ; eleven hundred volumes of records of the British House of Commons , of which no other copy was extant , were destroyed . Not eighty dollars worth of property was saved . The loss is irreparable , and is regretted by all . The Queen _s picture was _saTed from the burning buildings , but destroyed in the streets . The party in charge of the mice carried it to Doncgana's Hote _" , and there placed it in the hands of Sir Allan McNab . i \ o lives were lost . T . B . Turner , Esq _, of the . Mon treal Conner , Sir Allan McNaband the HonW .
, ; Badgely , in attempting to save some books from tbe library , were nearly lost . They were obliged to drop the works , and rush for tbe Legislative Council chamber door , which , to their horror , they found locked . Their cries were beard by a party in the library of the council , who had axe ' s , and the panel was smashed in ; they then escaped by a ladder from the balcony . It was rumoured amongst ' the mob , that the French members were hid in the cellars , and _wou-d be destroyed by the fire . The announcement was received with the most brutal cheers . At twelve o ' clock , satisfied with ths work of the evening , the multitude dispersed . His Excellency , the Governor-General , with his family , came into town , and
remained all night under the protection of a ' large guard at Government House . Early this morning , Messrs . Mack , Howard , Montgomerie , and Ferries , proprietor of the Montreal Gazette , were arrested on a charge of arson . They were taken before the police magistrates , and after an examination of a few hours , remanded to gaol till to-morrow . The excitement during the day was intense . A mob of 3 , 000 persons accompanied them to the gaol . Through the influence of their leaders , the mob were prevented from any outbreak . _Da-1 they chose to do so , the 100 soldiers who guarded the cabs would have soon been settled . But it was represented that more good would arise from their incarceration for a few hours .
In the evening it was announced that a meeting would beheld on the Champ de Mars to-morrow at two o ' clock , the Hon . George Moffat to be in the chair , when the peace and safety of the country will be discussed . It has already been decided , that safety and peace can only be insnred by his Excellency going home . Notice will be given = trim to quit the confines of Canada before the expiration of the week . Sir Benjamin D'Urban is to be called upon to administer the affairs of the country till he receives tidings from home . A French - magistrate , named Arniot , who went to _ the gaol with the prisoners , was nearly torn to pieces by the mob . An assemblage of persons was collected outside the Government House during the whole day , for the purpose of laying hold of the ministry , and were only prevented from entering the house by the presence of the military , with whom it is the determination of the British party not to quarrel , and it was also the military ' s desire .
In the evening of the 5 th the mob set fire to Mr . Lafontaine ' s house . The oat-buildings were set on fire , and the house completely gutted ,. furniture smashed , magnificent pier glasses broken to pieces , feather beds ripped up , and every sort of destruction possible . On the 1 st of May Mr . Boulton was to move in the House of Assembly for a dissolution of the two provinces . The swearing-in of a number of Frenchmen as special constables caused a great increase to the excitement . One report states that the constables fired upon alarge body of the rioters . So intense became the excitement in consequence of the arrival of the French , that the Governor-General had to give orders for their arms to be taken away . Strong apprehensions were entertained of still greater violence .
The accounts from the country were very alarming ; in some places the authorities were compelled to assist in burning the effigy ofthe Governor-General .
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Saiubday , Mat 12 . JRoBCERr from tiie Person- Br A Dutchman-. — Edward Keyser , aged 24 , a Dutchman , was indicted for stealing thirteen sovereigns , the monies of Wm . Tan der Deyl , from his person . —The jury returned a verdict of " Sot Guilty . " Charge of Cutting asd "Wouxmxg . —H . Antwi eler , aged 32 , and C Fieg , 31 , a cook , were indicted for cutting and wounding Fritz Touvett , with intent , & c . The whole ofthe witnesses being foreigners , were examined through the medium of interpreters . —The jury found Antwieler" Guilty" on the whole charge , and Fieg of a common assault . —Mr . Bullock sentenced Antwiclder to twelve months ' imprisonment and hard , labour , and Fieg to three . This being the last case , the court adjourned until Monday the 11 th of June .
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Z HFOED PETTY _SESSIONS . —Saturdat . _Finiso at a Railwat Thais . —G . Sfcelton and G . Edye , clerks in a mercantile office in the City , about sixteen years of a _» e , were charged with firing a pistol at a passenger train on the Eastern Counties Railway , near the Forest-gate Station . The prisoners pleaded " Guilty . "—Mr . Pelham , for tho defence , said the prisoners were schoolfellows , and were most respectably connected . On the day in question they visited their old schoolmaster , and
took with them a pistol and some powder to fire off in the fields . The discharging the pistol at the train was entirely a mistake , and the prisoners had no intention of alarming the passengers . The prisoners regretted the foolish act Iheyhad committed , and were quite ready to offer any apology to the company . —The Chairman said he believed the act was done wantonly , but not with any malicious intentions . The prisoners were then fined twenty shillings each , and cautioned as to then' future conduct . —The fine was paid .
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Impomaxt Decision * under the Poor Law . —A few days ago an officer of the Leeds board of Poor Law guardians appeared at the Court House ofthat town , and applied to the mayor ( Mr . John Hope Shaw ) and two ofthe other magistrates of the borough for an order to remove a pauper and his family to Ireland . He had lived in Leeds twentyseven years . The fact of chargeability was proved ; and that the pauper had lately been imprisoned for a month in the Borough Gaol for neglect of family . It was insisted that this breach of residence rendered him and his family liable to removal . The officer of the board of guardians said that the
pauper had admitted to him that he was born in Cork . Thepauper , who spoke with an Irish accent , denied having made that admission , and objected to being removed . After the mayor and magistrates had consulted together for some time on the case , and examined the Acts of Parliament , the Mayor said , " Whatever we might think of the hardship of removing a family to Ireland , under such circumstances as those of the present case , if we found that the law directed the removal , we should not hesitate to carry it into effect . It is our duty to administer the law as it stands . But we think the law
has intrusted a discretionary power to magistrates in such cases . What might have been the duty of the magistrates upon an application by overseers , under the 3 rd and 4 th of William IV ., c . 40 , it is unnecessary to inquire , as that statute is repealed ; and this branch of the functions of overseers is transferred to the guardians in parishes where guardians are appointed . The present application is by the niardians under the statute which transferred those functions from the overseers to them , viz ., the 8 th and 9 th "Victoria , c . 117 , s . 2 . The words of that section , so far as regards the question now before us , are , that the -Justices may hear and examine into the matter of such complaint , and if it be made to _an-near to their satisfaction that such person is
liable ' to be so removed as aforesaid , and if they see fit , they may make and issue a warrant under their hands and seals to remove such person forthwith , at the expense of such union or parish . " We have heard and examined the matter ofthe complaint now hefore us ; we assume , for the purpose of our present decision , that the liability to removal is satisfactorily proved ; but we think that under the words ' and if tbey see fit , ' we are entitled to exercise our discretion ( and , if so entitled , that it is bin * duty to exercise that discretion with due regard t » the pauper as well as the ratepayers ) as to the fitness of an order of removal in every case brought before us . In the present case we do not ' see fit ' to grant an order . We think it would be a hardship on the pauper himself , if , after he had lived _twehtyseven _vcas-s in Leeds , we were to superadd to the
punishment the law has awarded to his offence ( and which he has already suffered ) the far heavier punishment of what would be virtually a sentence of transportation for life ; and we think it "would be a still greater hardship on his family , who have committed no crime , to send them to a country entirely new to them , and leave them to struggle for a livelihood amongst strangers or depend on their charily ; We shall , therefore , decline to make an order of removal in this case , unless we are told by higher authority that it is our duty to do so . " ,- The practice in Leeds has hitherto been , as we believe it has in other parts of ; the country , to remove all Irish paupers to their native country if they have not a five years' continuous settlement in the town , the magistrates believing _thfey- 'had . ' ho . discretionary power iathe jaaUer ,
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[ A pressure on our columns at the late period _, !_ _— ' "• Drummond made his ' specch in the House of Commons last week prevented us from givino * it m full , which we now do . ] . r B : Xatioxai , Taxatiox . —Mr . Drummond rose to bring forward the following motion * . — " That thc House resolve itself into a committee , to consider the public expenditure and the existing system of taxation , and how far both may he revised " , with a view to relieve the pressure upon the industry of the country . " It might be said that he exaggerated the importance of this motion in declining to give way to a question which was to follow , but whatever the House might think upon the subject , he believed that throughout the country there was a far greater maiority-of persons anxious to be
relieved from the burden of taxation , than tO be permitted to marry their wives' sisters . ( Laughter . ) He might have an exaggerated idea of the importance of his motion , but he considered it to involve the very question which had overthrown every throrieinEurope , and would shake the stability of our own , if not speedily settled . Last year he expressed his surprise that her Majesty ' s ministers had not themselves proposed some plan of finance in relief of taxation adequate to the universal demand then made for it , or if unable to devise such a plan themselves , had not used the assistance of a select committee ofthat House . His surprise was founded partly on the peculiar circumstances under which they had been appointed , partly on account of the great agitation there was" then in the country outhe subject of taxation , and partly from the expectation derived from the recollection of then speeches when out of office , which expectation those
speeches were intended to excite . ( Hear , hear . ) At the close of the session he had regretted that the government gave no indication of such intention , and had said that it would be necessary for some independent member to fake the matter up—not for the sake of making an ephemeral speech , hut to draw from the House a plain and intelligible declaration—that the country might know what it had to expect at their hands , and also to lay down broad and intelligible principles for the guidance not only of the present ministers , hut of any who might succeed'them . ( Hear . ) He believed there never . was an instance of successful rebellion against the ruling classes in any nation , except from the operation of the higher . He used the word higher , because it mattered nothing whether the government took the form of absolute or limited monarchy , or republic ; for , as feudal violence went out fiscal exaction came in . In . either case the
people had had taken from them that which ought not to have been taken . The extravagant wars of Louis XIV ., and his waste of his people's money in puerilities , caused the distress and misery that broke out in the days of his great grandson , and shook him from the throne . Our debt had begun with the wars of the house of Hanover , had since gone on increasing , and had reached a point which would have appeared fabulous to the original contractors ofthe debt . ( Hear , hear . ) The time was now come when , if the legislature would not have the manliness to look their position in the face , and dare to grapple with-it in quiet times , it would bo taken up in unquiet tunes , and attended with all the miserable aggravations which ' always accompanied the outbreaks of infuriatod mobs . ( Ilcar ,
hear . ) : If they would shut their ears to the voice of history , and their eyes to the events that had passed around them for the last fifty years—if they would suppose that they had some charter from heaven to preserve them from that which had befallen every other nation whilst pursuing the same course—if they would defer taking those stops which alone could avert the evil , there was no help for the country . If they would sit with selfish and'listless indifference , content that things should last during their official existence—if there was no course left to those who used to boast in the name of British statesmen but to have all their faculties absorbed in ambition , their hands and feet bound in maintaining things as they were—there was nothing for it but to wait another wave of that deluge of
democracy which had already overwhelmed every government in Europe , and had more than threatened our own . ( Hear , hear . ) He did not say that any measure he mi g ht recommend would save the State ; but if the legislature would part with . its selfishness , "be just and fear not , " —be determined to relieve the poor , and so far feel for them as to resolve that they should be relieved , that might under God's blessing be a means of lengthening the tranquillity . ( Hear , hear . ) If they did grapple with the question they must lay hold of it honestly , not amuse the people with a delusive hope , and thus increase their mortification . They must he honest in their endeavours , and to be honest they must revise every part of their taxable system . ( Hear . ) And they must be prepared to part with many
favourite associations , " many privileges , and many long-cherished habits . He held it to be a princi p lo that we ought to pay for protection iii proportion to the value of that which was to be protected , and in proportion to the value of the social condition of the people . ( Hear . ) He had stated on a former occasion that , out of our population of thirty millions , one million of families were in the greatest distress ; another million consumed double the quantity of those below them ; a third million consuming three times as much ; a fourth , four time 3 as much ; and a fifth million consuming five times as much as all the rest put together . The taxation ought to proceed on the principle of lotting the lowest class go free altogether ; and laying on tlie whole of the taxation oh the same principle aa the
assessed taixes . It was impossible to impose taxes so that they sbould not press upon labour indirectly ; they ought , therefore , by every means in thenpower , to relieve the parties thus necessarily burdened . Men ought to be made to pay in proportion to the stake they held in thc country . Lord Althor ' p had once said that this would be confiscation ; but it was obvious that it was of very little importance to a day labourer who sat in thc House of Lords , or who sat on the throne , or who were the owners of certain estates . As Mr . Macaulay had once said in the Edinburgh Review : — "Itis poor consolation to a man who has had no dinner , and is going to have no supper , to know that the Queen cannot make war without the consent of parliament . " ( Laughter . ) These restrictions were exceedingly valuable to
those who profited by them ; but to the large mass of mankind they were wholly nugatory . There was another reason for pursuing the course he recommended . He did not agree in the assertion often made on the other side , that the taxes had heen intentionally made to press on other interests by the landed interest having the command of a majority in both houses . The reverse had been proveu most clearly by the hon . member for Bucks . But he admitted that , just in the same way as there was , unintentionally , an- indirect tendency in masters always to combine against their labourers , so there was an indirect tendency in the legislature not to make taxation equal , —equal in a certain sense , but unequal in another sense ; equal in the sense of a noil-tax . which was the most unequal of all taxes ;
for it could not be denied that to take a pound from a man who had only -610 , was much more than to take £ 10 from one having £ 100 , and to take £ 10 from a man having £ 100 , was more than £ 100 from one having £ 1 , 000 , or £ 1 , 000 from one having £ 10 , 000 . There ought , therefore , to be constantly an intention on the part of the House , in all these modes of taxation , to relieve the very lowest and press upon the highest ; for , if thero was not that intention , the involuntary effect would hc , that the taxation would press more upon the lower order than the higher . The hon . member for Finsbury was constantly repeating that the people would never have justice done them . 'till they elected their own representatives . He did not believe thev would set a bit morejustice in that way ,
unless the principle he had now pointed out were recognised . He should certainly propose iii committee a resolution to the effect , " That in order to alleviate the ; burden of taxation , itis necessary , as far as possible , to levy all taxes , the stamp and other duties , oaths same principle as that on which the assessed taxes are levied . " The object , for sometime past , had been , to reduce prices here to the continental level , or rather to the level which they were formerly . ( Hear , hear . ) Hc did not object to that , andhe believed prices would have come to that level , in spite of anything that might have been done to prevent it ; he did not believe it was possible , after along continuance of peace , to keep , up ii great difference between the prices of this country and others . But the taxpayers would . have
continental prices to . ( Hear , hear . ) They would have the whole expenses of government brought back to what they were in 1794-neither . a shilling more nor less . ( Hear , hear . ) It could not be objected to this plan , as it was to that of the hon . member for the West Biding ,: that this was an amount arbitrarily fixed ; for the whole of the official [ salaries had beenraised on the express plea that commodities had risen . ( Hear , hear . ) " Wheat , which , in his memory had been £ 50 a load , was now £ 10 ; contracts had been --made in the Hampslure unions for mutton at 3 id . a pound , and they would have « J _* d . salaries too . ( Laughter . ) They would have the free trade systcm carried out in this also . . ( Hear , _heariV He had no pleasure in proposing such a thincr _ in _ihtcrfcring with the comforts , " habits , or
future prospects of any individuals ; A few nignts a ?? 6 an hon . gentleman had talked about an act of parliament _wtich was to give _confidence _^ to Ireland : what ablessed . act that would be ! ( Hear hear ] If he could devise im act of parliament which should _er _£ _reVSgentlemanwho heardhim £ 10 , 000 ayear , lithnothmg-todo , _heshouldie . happy ; to propose it ( Laughter . ) But the present system was past endiirance and he : wanted to relieve the people , _tbaXrmS not be forced to relieve themse yes . _( _Hlr SrW item of . expenditure , he ; would _oSuSy _' ' specify-the ' civil ; _depaftinent'nf the sums that . had been thrown away , * now m-tune , of peace , to make basins for steam _^ yessels , which had nothing todo , ( Hear , hear . _Tto _BOble . lord at
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tiie head of the government , who was pretty determined when lie took anything in his head , dared not and could not reduce tlie salaries in thc wav "thev ought to be reduced , unless lie was forced to " it ; lie never could do it , unless livmod with a resolution of the House . ( Hear , hear . ) As to the colonies , he believed there never was an abler , more active , or more zealous man than Lord Crev ' at the head of that department . Nevertheless , the colonics were in precisely the condition which was most to be regretted . Sir George Murray , when at the head of that department , in 1824 , had presented a report plainly . stating that it was impossible rightly to govern the colonics except by a board , and calling on the House to appoint one . But , from that day to this , nothing had been done . Adam Smith said
that the colonies had always been an expense to the mother country , and that nothing but her pride had prevented her giving them up long ago . If there was any pride at all in the case , tlie mother country ought to act towards tlio colonics in the same dignified and kind way that parents would act towards their children . If any of their children were enabled , by the . advantages thev possessed , to establish themselves well in the world , and independently of the father , he rather rejoiced , instead of being jealous and wanting to keep the child in continual pupilage .. ( Hear , hear . ) On the other hand a weak child , unable to support itself , was ever welcome to the parental roof . Let not the country then be jealous pf a colony which had arrived at mature age , and was inclined to take the management of its own
affairs . ( Hear , hear . ) But these colonics might be made directly advantageous by facilitating emigration to them , by sending out all those unhappy young people who had been entirely educated in unions , by giving them a free passage and grants of land . The fault of the societies wliich promoted emigration was , that they exacted too hard conditions from the emigrant , and required things whicli the poor man could not possibly obtain . The only qualification for . an emigrant ought to be an empty mouth and an empty stomach . ( Hear , hear . ) The colonies would give abundant occupation to such persons ; and this would be indirectly profitable to the mother country , by making them better customers then thoy were . ( Hear . ) But let not the colonies lay the flattering unction to
their souls that they could ever become sugar manufacturers . The cane was indigenous in very few places ; by forced prices it had been cultivated in spots where it only lasted one year . In all thoso grounds between the places where it was perennial , and those where none grew at all , it was simply forced by what was called protection , but which was in fact an expensive way of manufacturing , which they might rest assured was gone for ever . ( App lause . ) But if they would encourage their labourers to grow provisions , they wouid abundantly supply this country with all the grain it wanted ; and here again it might be seen how impossible . was the attempt to restore the bread-tax . ( Hear . ) He could not too strongly reprobate' - the conduct of those persons who were taking advantage of the
distress of the tenant-farmer at this time ; " and running about the country , persuading them that if they were returned to parliament they could succeed in restoring , a 5 s . duty . ( Hear , hear , ) He had never taken' any part in that bread-tax agitation . He saw , or thought he saw , ' that it was nothing but a contest between two interests , two selfishnessesthe selfishness of the landlords , nnd tho selfishness of the cotton-lords . ( Laughter . ) . Still hc did not say that all selfishness was equally bad ; for one might be a destructive selfishness , and the other highly conservative . So long as it was necessary to raise a revenue , so long must they have a customhouse . "Disguise monopoly as they would , it was , in point of fact , taking something from everybody else to put into thc poekcts of the person protected .
( Hear , hear . ) Every protection ef . one class of capitalists against another was wrong . ( Hoar , hear . ) But there was a constant tendency of all masters to combine against their workmen ; and for this the labourer wus . no match . ( Hear , hear . ) The capitalist could command any market he pleased ; but the labourer could command no market but his next door neighbour . That was the ground upon which the crown—the common parent—should stretch forth its hand to protect them againt the capitalists of every kind . In other words , they should encourage by their custom-house duties thc home market . When ono capitalist disposed ofhis produce to another , he put iri action another mass of capital ; if that other mass of capital for which he exchanged it was in the home market , it employed another
mass in that home market—in other words , it ensured employment to the home labourer instead of the foreign . ( Hoar , hear . ) People were very ready to blame their rulers for extravagance , but they had quite as many little pet extravagances of their own . Had it not been for the plea of the people , no government would have thought of abandoning the Post-office revenue , which benefitted no one but merchants and bankers . ( Hear . ) Why did they throw away an immense sum annually in palaces for thieves , because , instead of flogging thieves , they would teach them to spell —( laughter)—and , instead of killing murderers , they would put a mask upon thorn , and make them read " The Whole Duty of Man ? " ( Great laughter . ) It was the same with the endeavours making to force the
people to become admirers of art—pictures , palaces , statues , and no one knew what . He would not say a word against those things if tho country was overflowing with wealth ; but , in its present state—as it would be improper and immoral for a private individual to waste his money in such things when it was required for other purposes—so ought they to abstain from such things at present . He almost feared to mention Ireland , But could not pass it by , be cause , by a change in its management , the most immediate and direct saving might be made . Seeing that in Ireland they were actually incapable of findinga man guilty who declared himself to be so with his own mouth , " he would get rid of all the foolish
paraphernalia of , * udges , jury , and learned counsel . ( Laughter . ) Why not re-enact the old Saxon law , which fined a barony or township for every act of outrage , and add to that a penalty for every man that was found starved to death ? ( Hear , hear . ) This was the course which had formerly been pursued with Wales and Scotland , and , indeed , the whole ofthe empire ; and by this course they might at once disband a very large portion of the army and police in Ireland , and thus obtain relief from a great burden . It was all very well to talk of shifting the burden of taxation , aiid of reducing salaries ; but the effect of such alterations would be rather moral than material . It . would be chiefly
beneficial , as showing a determination on the part ofthe higher classes to make sacrifices for the benefit of the people . The public debt of £ 800 , 000 , 000 began at the same time as the miseries of France ; it went on increasing throughout the reign of the Georges—perhaps it was incurred in thc boginning as a punishment to the country for turning off its lawful king—( laughter)—and at last it had come to a pass which made the burden greater than any people had' ever endured . Ho knew that there had been an endeavour to lighten it by throwing it on a greater _maas of thc population . What was thc use of telling a man that he was rich because he had a large estate , when the farmer had to give four sheep in exchange instead of ono , ton fleeces instead oi one , three loads of wheat instead of one ,
and to pay the same amount of taxes as he paid years ago ? The nominal amount of capital was not necessarily commensurate with the amount of taxation paid . All the ministers by whom the debt was incurred had successively confessed that , unless something were done to afford relief , it must end in the ruin of the country . If they consulted parliamentary history , and especially Sir John Sinclair ' s history of the public debt , they would find evidence of tho truth ofthat statement . Mr . Pitt continually spokb of giving indemnity for the past and security for the future . He agreed with the Birmingham school , that the debt had been immensely aggravated by the bill of 1819 . The man who had understood the question best was Mr . Ricardo , who did not think that the depreciation had taken place upon
the whole of the currency , both gold and paper . But it was too late to go into that question now . If a person arrived from California to-morrow with 800 millions _: in gold , and paid the whole into the Exchequer , although there would , in consequence , he . an immediate revision of the great mass of taxation , it ' was doubtful whether the disturbances which would take p lace throughout the whole social system would not' involve an amount of evil which wou _' _-d more than counterbalance the benefit . It was of great importance , that the reduction ofthe debt should be gradual . The evil of the debt was , that it was an enormous mass of capital locked up and ; unproductive . There were only two ways of benefitting the country . One was by bringing capital : to the soil ; the other , by . supplying it to tho
manufacturer at a low rate of interest . The general law . which prevailed now was that the business of thekingdomi whether agricultural or manufacturing ,-was extended at lower rates of'profit . The mass of business was increased , but the profits were diminished . The landlords and the farmers must have capital at a lower rate of interest ; mortgages must be obtained at a lower rate of interest ; and the market value of produce must be raised . Every one would admit the importance of paying the public debt . But where was the money to come from ? The debt had gone' on so long that he believed it never crossed their minds that they had to pay . it , and the end would be , as Mr . Cobden said longago _. that it
would blow them up . ( Laughter . ) It was essential tothe healthy management of our affairs that tlio object should be effected gradually ; and the way in which he proposed to accomplish it was by empowering the Chancellor of the Exchequer , and-the government , to buy up the public annuities as they were offered in tho market . ; To that he supposed the Chancellor of the Exchequer would not object ! ( Laughter . ) It' was obvious that it would not at first amount to a-very : great-sum . Tke-money should be raised partly by a tax upon property , and partly , by , the equalisation of t } w , land tax ; the two together'being : exclusively- devoted to the object . Thus proceeding , they would , never have . a glut ' of
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capital thrown on the market . Had that attempt , or any similar ; ono , ¦ been madeycars ago , the consequences would have been , that capital would not have gone into French railways , Spanish-bonds , and elsewhere . Had anv gone to tlie colonies it would have been an advantage to this country . ¦¦ Comparatively little would now go abroad ,, aiid . thcre would be a power of control in thc hands ofthe executive , lie called upon those who mally felt the importance of these financial subjects to vote for going into committee ; and he ' would observe that there was nothing to prevent hon . members , whose views did not harmonise with liis own , from tacking on to his motion any other subjects that thoy wished to introduce . He conjured thoso who had opposed what were called the financial reform movements not to he led by the fear that such movements were used as a mesh , for a covert attack on the institutions and
defences ofthe country , to set up a dogged opposite everything _ljhat might be proposed ; but to go into committee where all these matters might be properly discussed . Above all , hc prayed those gentlemen—the few amongst them in that Housewho knew something of the service of government , and who alone were fitted to deal with such questions , not to be persuaded that relief was impossible merely because the moans of affording it had not crossed their official minds , and they could find no example in the records of history . Let not the House imagine that the question would end there , or persuade itself that any other question could be discussed within those walls to which the peoplo at large looked with so lively an interest , or upon which depended so much the tranquillity of the empire . ¦• ¦•¦'
In the discussion that ensued the _Ciianckli-or of tho Exchequer treated the motion with great levity and raised a-number of objections which excited " much laughter . " Mr . M . Gibson ( on the part ofthe Free Traders ) said that the motion ofthe hon . member for Surrey was unexceptionable in its terms , but , after the speech which had accompanied it , it woiild he impossible for him to vote for it , without exposing himself to misconception out of doors , so replete was that speech with principles—such as that which contemplated the restoration of thc old postagefrom which ho wholly dissonted . As , however , he did not desire absolutely to negative the motion , he would beg leave to move the previous question . Col : SiMHonp _. thought the motion most worthy of
the attention ofthe House . A groat deal had been said about the year 1796 , and the salaries paid to the public servants then ; but from all he was able to learn respecting that time as compared with the present , ho could only say that tho mon employed in carrying on the public business In 1790 were much harder worked and much better taught than either the ministers ofthe crown , or any other class of government servants , now appeared to be . ( Laughter . ) The Chancellor of the Exchequer was getting too fat ; ho and his colleagues seemed to be glued to their places ; it was so difficult to move them . But ho would tell the right hon . gentleman ; his relative ( Sir C . Wood ) , that he was the last man who ought to shrink from such an inquiry aa that proposed by the hon . member for Surrey .
" 'Ti 8 conscience makes cowards of us all . " And that he supposed was the cause of the repugnance manifested by the government to the present motion . He , - however , was determined that tho whole question should be sifted to the bottom , if he could effect that object . The extravagant line of conduct pursued by sucessive governments had been too long permitted to be followed . It could not be changed for tho worse . The present times required the House to look closely after the expenditure of thc country . He' thanked the hop . member for
Surrey for having brought forward the TOotion . Though he differed from that hon . . member on some points , hc had the greatest confidence in liis integrity-and honour , and ho would give him his cordial support on the present occasion , in the sincere hope that success would enable him to unravel the trickery , trumpery , and trash which had distinguished all recent governments , b & th Whig and Tory . Mr . Cobden made' a long defence of the course which he and the so-called Financial Reform Association had pursued , and repeated the stale fallacies of the one-sided Free Traders , and after a reply from Mr . Dri / mmoxd tlio House
divided—For the previous question ... ... 151 Against it ... ... ... ... 100—51 Mr . Drummond ' s motion was therefore not put .
MONDAY , Mat 14 . HOUSE OF LORDS . —Invasion of Romr . — Lord Beaumont rose to ask certain questions of the Marquis of Lansdowne relating to the affairs of Central Italy , and began by giving a sketch of the state of th * Papal Government at the ascension of Pius IX ., of the reforms attempted to be introduced by that Pontiff , and of the Ministers , especially Count Rossi , whom he had selected to aid him in carrying them out . He sincerely lamented the death of Rossi —( hear , hear )—and although a feeling of joy was exhibited in Rome at the event , he must say that he had the strongest evidence that none of those men __ who afterwards came into power had any participation in the fatal crime , or the expressions of rejoicing . that followed _it-s but , oii the contrarv , tbey deeply lamented the
death of Rossi . ( Hear , hear . ) The moment he fell , the cardinals thought they might retrace their steps , and the plan for doing so was drawn out ; but the scheme was discovered in time , and the people to a man rose against it . They did not , however , threaten the life of the Pontiff ; they said , on the other hand , that they would rather die on the steps ofhis _pfll-jce . than a hair ofhis head should be injured . They , however , asked hm to send away his minister , to disband the Swiss regiments , and to take an oath to the form of government which then existed . He declined to assent , because it allowed laymen to propose measures ; and he was advised to have Rome . Now , there was ' no doubt that if hc had done so in the fate of day , no attempt would have been made beyond entreaties to prevent it ; but , unfortunately , he left Rome in a manner which showed a want of confidence in his subjects .
Lord Brougham here made some observation which did not reach the gallery . Lord Beaumont resinned : He had the greatest respect for what fell from the noble and learned lord generally , buton this subject ho believed it was impossible to fathom . his motives . ( Loud laughter from all sides ofthe House . ) His assertions again and again were contrary to the facts—and he thought it would not be long before the noble and learned lord heard that his assertions were falsehoods-Lord Brougham ( with great excitement ) . I rise to order . I have allowed the noble baron to go on in the most irregular manner for some time . A Noble Peer . —It is not irregular .
Lord Brougham . —I say it is most irregular . The noble baron puts a question and prefaces it with a long speech . The only office of the speech is to make the question _intelligible—but to make a long speech and refer to what was never heard of bei ' ote , and to say that any noble lord ' s assertions were falsehoods , is most irregular ; and ( added the noble and learned lord , with great vehemence , leaning over the table towards Lord Beaumont ) , I receive the statement , from whomsoever it comes , with the most absolute contempt . ( "Hear , hear , " and laughter . ) Lord Beaumont . —I am doing what the noble and learned lord has said I am entitled to do , I am endeavouring to make the question intelligible ; and if my preface has been longer than it otherwise would have been , it is in consequence of the noble lord ' s erroneous statements on this subject .
Lord Brougham ( with increased warmth ) . —I psk whether it Is orderlv for one noble lord—upon the information of an Italian , I doii'tknow who—to aocuse another peer of parliament of uttering falsehoods ? He must either retract or apologise—not to me , for I despise it ( a laugh)—but to your lordships . Lord Beaumont .- I said the statements put forward we ' re falsehoods , but I did not suppose that they were the falsehoods of the noble and learned lord . ( Hear , hear . ) If I had used a milder word it would have meant the same thing . ( Alaugh . ) 1 might have used the . wonl " misstatement" —perhaps I ought not to have used the word " falsehood , " and 1 therefore willingly apologise tor having used the word —( hear , hear)—but my object was to show that many of the statements which went forth to'the
public were not in accordance with the truth . ( Hear , hear . ) The noble lord then resumed his narrative , and having concluded it , asked the President of the Council _^ whether any communication had been made to our government by that of France of its objects and intentions in occupying the _Roittin states ; for he could not for his life discover what those objects and intentions were ? What their objeot was , whether it was the general good of Europe as connected with the preservation of general peace , or the natural ambition of that great state to play the leading part in the ' restoration of . the Pope , or the consequence ' of an- ' agreement- with the other Catholic powers of Europe ; he could not tell . His next question would relate to the proceedings of Austria . _^ He did not know . that Austria had yet violated the Roman territory . He knew that ; she had entered the states of Tuscany , but in that ' ca ? e . there were certain arrangements which gave Austria the right , in interfere in the affairs of
certain contingencies , to Tuscany .. He did not know , he repeated , whether _Auitriahadyet violated the Roman temtory , but she was the last power , from _^ _m » "lr 8 » f * recent protestations against interference , he couldhaye expected any interference : in a straggle jbetween a foreign sovereign and his people . Another . _j ) ower also had interfered , the King of Naples-he who had so often protested against , any interference _ i ) e ween him and his sacrificed subjects m Sicdy . Whatever might be his' motives , he had unquestionably violated the privileges of an independent state , and by marching against Rome had committed a grave offence against the law of nations . Therefore it was that he wanted to know-whether : any communication hadbech received' bv our government from the lung of Naples , asltd his object in joining in'this' expedi- ' tion '; aridfurthe ' r , hewantedto know' whether bur . government hadtaken ' any measure in : concert- with ; foreign _gweruB-veatsQa this subject , i _^ whether-it
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remained ignorant or approved of what had taken place ? The Marquis of _LASsixnvj *! " shortly repliid to the first question of _L'iril _Bi-. AUM' XT by staling that a _commsrnicatiou had been received f : om the French government , intimating that the object , of the expedition to Civita Vecchia was to promote the peace of Italy , and to _re-establish a constitutional and regular government at Rome , With _resoect to tlie questions referring to the ' assamed invas ' ion of the Iiomnn territory by Austria and Naples , he had to state that no : commsmication whatever had been made on thc subject to Her Majesty ' s _i-ovcnimfrnt by the governments of Austria and Naples . Of course their lordships might anticipate , after what he had already stated , what answer be bad to give to tlie last question of tlie noble lord , ai to whether her . Majesty ' s government had taken any part in promoting' this tripartite invasion ; and ho had distinctly to answer that it had taken no part ia promoting or . in sanctioning it .
The _' Earl of Abkb . de en thought thc House had a right to expeet a more explicit explanation than that which they had just heard , nor could he conceive that the noble Marquis c mid hare allowed the entry of 20 . 000 French troops into Central Italy exceptbn some definite understanding . Locking at the public declarations of French official characters , the- best thing to be hoped was that they did not _spsak truth , because , otherwise , if those _declaira'ions were to be accepted as correct , the matter would be very serious indeed . It was really most extraordinary that the result of that mischievous interference of Her
Majesty s government in the affairs of Italy wliich began by the mission of Lord Miuto should have been to expose that country to French intervention , and he could not help thinking that the journey of the noble lord had been practically more fatal than anything else could have been to th _£ real fieedom of Italy . Earl Minto declared that hc had omitted no opportunity during his journey of declaring that however desirous her Majesty ' s government might be of seeing wholesome reforms introduced into Italy , yet that they would not hear of or tolerate any change as regarded the territorial arrangements of the Treaty of "Vienna .
Lord BnouoHAM said that if the object of the noble lord ' s mission was to keep Italy free from French intervention , he certainly could not congratulate the government on the ultimate result . He remembered when he was in office some years _auo how he was rated by politicians of the old school for the occupation of Ancona by the French , but he must say he thought the occupation of Rom * by the French a muck more important matter . He did not believe from what he had seen at Paris that the French "overnment knew very distinctly what they meant in _> ending an expedition to Italy , except , perhaps , it were to satisfy the craving of the mob for military glory .
The ' Marquis of Lonpoxderrv was convinced that the great desire of the French government and of tho President was peace . He was surprised that the noble and learned lord , who had gone to France with a very large body of _Englishmen to fraternise with the population of Paris , should have spoken as hc had done of that population . Lord Brougham mos _* . peremptorily , contradicted the story that he went to France with a large body of Englishmen . He happened to laud at the same time with : them , but lie had no communication with any of them but once , and that was for the purpose of avoiding the supposition tlut . be had anylhingto do with that most absurd expedition . The subject then dropped .
Their lordships then went into committee on the Irish Rate-in-Aid Bill , and after one or two amendments had been agreed to , the bill passed through _, committee , and it was arranged that the report should be brought up on Tuesday on the understanding that there should be no discussion , and that the third reading should take place on Friday next . Their lordships then adjourned . HOUSE OF COMMONS . _—U-vjust Taxation * . — Mr . II . Drummond gave notice that , on the first Tuesday after Whitsuntide , hc should move the following resolution : — " That whereas a greater amount of taxation is levied upon the people than is required for the good and efficient government of the United Kingdom ; and whereas , large sums are expended in supporting needless places ,
extravagant salaries , and unnecessary works and establishments ; and , whereas , the present taxation of the country depresses all classes , and especially the labouring classes , by _diminishing thc fluid for the omploymcxt of productive labour , it is the opinion of the House that adequate means should be adopted to reduce the expenditure ofthe government . " The Irish Policy— On the order of thc day for going into committee on thc Land Improvement and _Brainajje ( Ireland ) Bill being read . Mr . PiOEiiucK took occasion to express his opinion ofthe policy—if he could call it by that name—pursued by the government towards Ireland . After reviewing the state into which Ireland had been thrown by the famine , and tho opportunity which then offered for alleviating the condition of the
peoplo of that country , an opportunity which the government had permitted to pass unimproved , the honourable and learned gentleman developed his views as to . thc real causes of Irish misery , read some severe lectures to the Irish proprietors , and animadverted upon the bill on which it was sought to go into committee . Like thc sums wliich had already heen voted for Ireland , that now proposed to be advanced would not be applied bond fide to the maintenance of the Irish people , but to the maintenance of thc Irish proprietors . The doles which had been already made had boen shamefully misapplied , all classes in Ireland , from the highest to the lowest , scrambling for them in thc most barefaced manner . The animus of the Irish members had been developed by Mr . Reynolds , when lie said
that he wanted to havo a " pull at the Exchequer . " It was to have a pull at the Exchequer that they came there , but , so far as he was concerned , tliey would not be gratified . This bill proposed another pull at tho Exchequer , and as such he opposed ir . It was part and parcel of a mischievous policy , which sustained the Irish proprietary under the guise of benefitting the Irish people . The Exchequer , at which another pull was proposed , was filled from the hard earned wages of tho English people and he could not avoid taking the first opportunity that offered to raise his voice against the " rapacious desires of an idle , wasteful , and extravagant landed proprietary . " The Irish landlords were not the real , but thc nominal proprietary of Ireland . The land , of right , belonged to tlie mortgagees , and the mere nominal owners should no longer remain an incubus upon it . Let them cease to be called and to act as Irish landlords , and descend into the simple
character of Irishmen , earning an honest livelihood by their hands and heads . The charity of this country had been _es ; rgriously misapplied in Ireland . Those who should have heen tho almoners of the poor in Ireland appropriated to themselves , in the most rapacious spirit , the charities of this country . Unless the government put a stop to this , the sources of charity m this country would be speedily dried up . The honourable and learned gentleman proceeded to dilate still further upon the rapacity and immoralities of the Irish landlords , and on his resuming his seat , Mr . John O'Connell and Sir II . Barron sprung to their feet to reply . Mr . _Joiw 0 _CojjjfEU- observed , that although the thunderbolt had fallen , Irishmen wero not struck down . They had heard for weeks that tho bolt was in preparation for them , and in hurling it the honourable and learned gentleman had accompanied the effort with the " grimaces of a mountebank , and "
But here Mr . O'Connell was called to order , and sat down . The SrEAKER informed himth . it he had made use of an . unparliamentary expression , which he must retract . ' Mr . J . _O'CoxtfEix retracted the expression , and in reply to Mr . Roebuck ' s charge of immorality , which was indiscriminately launched against the whole Irish people , asked if there were any child murders in Ireland for the sake of burial foe 3 ? If there were any Irishmen in thc Guards whom it was dangerous for a man to approach at night in . a sentry box ? If there were any poisoners' or
procurers of abortion in Ireland , or political economists preaching horrible doctrines ? SirH . "W . Barron followed briefly in support of the bill , defending the conduct of-the Irish landlords , and avoiding personalities . Lord John Russell observed that Mr . Roebuck reminded him of Baron Munchausen's horn , wliich had been frozen up , but emitted sweet sounds _wjien it had ah opportunity of thawing . After tlie many Irish debates which they had had that session , the honourable and learned gentleman was mistaken in thinking that thero was any very great relish for them now . The noble lord then briefly defended the
bill . - . ; Mr . noRSMANthcn attacked the general conduct of _tmvgovcrnment in reference to the distribution of the monies voted for Ireland . Sir G . Gret defended the government ' against this attack , wliich . he treated as altogether wide of the question raised by the bilk ~ Mr . KEoan replied very indignantly to Sir . Roebuck , who had already thrice raised his voice in tha House in tones of censure— .
. ; _, " Thrice thebrindled cat had mowed . " * _.- ' . Many ofthe Irish members _attackedibad been absent , and ho-trusted that , the next time-that the honourable and learned gentleman-indulged , in tho Vgreon bitter , ; yein , whicli pervaded-every inch oi ? his body / . ' -. he i would have the--courtesy and tha . _manlinesfj to do so : in pifesenoe of those whom he attacked . : He . was surprised that . Lord ' John Russellhad not , in the slightest degree , interfered between : the . _Irish members and ; the taunt 3 of the . . honourable _ajid _IearnedWentleman . r ; Instead -of . doing -this , theji ' oble : lord had thrown : _out-a , taunfc ofhis j own , _byy . alluding to the * wearisomnessah'd _ra _^ n _cy-. of -i _$ _sh . debates . ••• If- ; he wanted-a roason 'for their . frequency ,-it would . be . found in tho ' . _picoemeal and patchwork legislation of _theVgovernment _.-MxrRgebu . _"jk was not , after all , bo desperate so
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