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Fiiesd * , —Tb « dnty that l i ^ P ^ ^ P ^ id commenti ng npon the Lancaster trials and ^ J * ^ bri ef narrative of the can « es ¦ which led rf Si » BB tiwfed affunst myself and fifty-eixht * ° has s ° *** * ^ en Bp B * *" ** " * ^ « ***** P ^ ' , -J . ^ possible to irrite xny letter upon the 1 *** —^ j ^ > oar of analysing the eTidence so as to I * ** ^ j ^ case in all its beariogB hose to the *> " ** TwKb £ of the simplest Blind , has been of a kM not at first
aau"' ^ j ei I anticipated , and the **? t f ctr red perteentors has so crowded opon V & pro gress , that upon the whole I find it a rtwtnsls are complete in No . 7 , now published , ^ L work wffl ° « completed in the text , which * % a'JUB ** formerly promised , a critical review jtet n&ence , together wivh ^ history of the turn-J ° U « Tolntion of August last . i tie les regret the postponement of nay letter tb e Lu ^ f ° r tnis re * ~^ > ecaas 8 I ^ ocen writing woxk
^ aart time eBgagedin a upon prsc-* ^ nnin ^ , and I do cot wish to hash lay sobjeet meh nntil it appears in a complete form . I hope ?* . > * second week in June to pnblish thofirst of L > -2 Db ers of a work upon the above subject , of . - " , assure tha ; those who are now ignorant will , ^ perossl , cot onlj fully understand , but heartily j ^ Ve tb e princip le by which I hope to eeehappi-JjT eaBtentmeai , and peace brought home to every -jnjtg , a » n s . 3 °° - make the work cheap that the
7 lise hope to so jtZ miy possess himself of ii , while I beg to f ^ . yon ihit th * diffienlties in the way of pub-K&i g istre * P hf mertl ^^ ^ kind are Vfcr y ! ZjJ laihe Beaatim ^ phall continue the su bjec t Laoiuj in tie Siar . \ ow I mli gi Te y ° n one ° f tne responsibilities J ^ sed spoa those who bring out mere ephemeral ILfc-T Tm Trials at Lancaster were sold at 7 J-, -Ljjk appears dear ; bus Bee the expense . The M » je 33 » ° f eacn a ^^ c * ^ -2 6 s - 5 S . 000 of Mjh wii sW ; i ^ P uP ° eTer y °° Py for compo-^ joB ilffiie , more than * 2 i . ; then the paper of each -st vishina fraction of lid ., that makes 5 i 4 M then $ e pin ' -ins costs £ 1 a thousand , or } d . each , tnat _ £ g Sfl ; then I paid £ 41 for the manu script , that fr , ceiriy up ° n ^ e W 3 ° le nnmber , | i . for each ,
Tiii Bite 4 jd . ; then the wrapper and stitching « 4 pasdiig , tad other incidental expenses , costs bjist la- bp ° e * ^ PT" knat makes 5 } d »» ad then & pcteisher has 21 npon each , which mak- * 7 } ¦! . ; $ t ; i ioe being mj share for < reat pains and jiiau . So that yon will find thai it is only in an os aded ale that the labourer can be sayed from iesmd responsibility ; and add to this a portrait Ssb a steel eng raving , bills , advertising , &c , for liah bo charge is made . This is entering into jeaus vnh jon , which is quite necessary , as my » bj «« tnro « sh life has been to place myself in a Btmaon io Beet my c&lmsniator ? , one instance of the pradaea of which yon will learn from the answer irbieh I am enabled to give to the followiag MrMrsph that appeared in the Times of Tuesday
us . — " Eras Mi . O'CoTmcu himself , Trbo bcasta so mnch d ka diiirleitsted Berrittfl and sacrincai in the cause if dirfrm , is daayed irith beicg a venal and timetems J-nbHc cbsxactez . The foUowiug cbarses are : n 5 e tfsiiut blm : —That be accepted £ 28 for lectrrir md assisticg at Mr . Sturge * s contest with Mi . I TTafttr , Een ; that he deica&ded £ 19 from Mr . iagsi for hi * terries * &t the late coctest between Mr . fiibKBe acd . Mr . Jcbn Waiter , jun . ; and , thongh last
KSla * . that be rweiTed from Mr . Stnrge ' s committee ft * tea r ! £ 5 for an active agent , to whom be only pud £ Z , psuing the remaining £ 2 in hi * pocket & . O'CvroiCir , £ j a matter of coarse , denies those dago , bet his accusers allege thit the ; can prove &a . Scene ether circumstances in tte " Lion of the XsiV character have come to light , which argue Bgi tat disi £ t £ rc » te 4 nfc « s or sacrifice , and trclcn bmbvaed him "very much in the eyes of his late lisas * . "'
2 ?« ie the answer . I herebt oitej a b . b-TiO Or £ 100 , TO BB PAID AT IHB OFPICB 0 ? KB . JfBJCuiTt , No . 1 , Sho £ -lajte . Fleet stbeet ,
K 131 KSSOJT WHO SHALL SATISFY AST THaES S 3 S (» AST POLITICS , All . OF WBCX SHALL BE JlED OT EIMSKLT , THAT AST OJfE SINGLE IMPCTArOJFHTHS ABOTJK PARAGRAPH HAS ANT , THE SLIGHTST . iOC 33 > iEOK 15 FACT . ^* - - 3 ow , Oies , wha : will Mr . Waher say to that ! Mr . CCasaor denies the charges ; his accusers j llifethis thty can proTe them . The tribunal of tbee daQ be all chosen by Mr . Walter , and he may tr . aztot them ! FxiBGrs OTottob . Bjaaeranith , May 17 ih . 1843 .
Ai 1 have erer leoKed to a cheap press as the best sssua tf mstrocuog the working classes npon all ^ Mswas jftcoEg th eir interest , I have endertifen to fcinish an article npon the all-important , eroT-otaer-qnestlon-abEorbing topic of the repeal of tb LejpilatiTe "Union , for each nnmber of Cleave ' s Qiertisi Ctmlar . This I perform as I have done fTerj Kfl ? r poor service for the people , gratuitously ; * 2 < 2 aQ ibe reward I ask cr covet , J 3 that my countrjaa in England will read those articles with amsd attention . The first will appear in next ¦* etk '« number of the Circular . __ Feasgcs O'Cossok .
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HiXHAlK .--Mt Baedey lectured in tbe Moot-hall , tat , taThaaday -week . The sum of 8 s . 5 d . was eoltecasd « B 4 ij * ac * dto the lectnrer , as the first contribu tor of tie H ^ bua Chartists to tbe fnad for the snppw . of tbe ketowfoitbe Northern District . OtBHABt— Ob Snndsy last the previonaly ontcimced dasosntm on tbe land qntstion was adjenrned 5 ^ tie Qssttist room to the open air on Oldham-£ « , « b » a Mi . OConn « - s letter was read from the 5 « Sff » star a i ^ ^ fctij . ^ rij ^^ uj tened ^ with P *» * aen&a . Sbortly &f jtr tte c- iur-any ha 4 seated
pus * >» a on the greer sward , two of tbe police passed pita did not jelerfere . A * the corciasioii , the meetjf ? * " * djonraed to Simdsy Btxt , st two o ' clock in Jttsftauooa . Tii » sntjett is tbe all-absorbing topie ™* in tbe evaaiug Sir . Clark , of Stneipojt . dfeJivered *^*« s the eapa bilit := s of tie laud aDd tbe iseaiis jf wtsan . On Mcadsy . Mr . Bell , of Htywoe * , de-^•^ f ^ ona lecture on the necessity of » cordial aT * ft ^ tte m - ddle ^ -workiBg ci&Eses for a w tfidest repres £ Et 2 tion in th- ; C ^ mmoiis' House ci ^"' ffit . Both the lectnra -were UsteE rf to with P ^ ia ectioa , and save general satififscticn .
HliTOX —The ctwtiits of Sii ^ ton and tbe arja-^ ^ aiittj mtt cD Snaday , a : the boast .-f Mr . JuHd d ^^ ' 5 ° ' 2 £ orier ? tbe purpose of propagatiDE tr- ^!?^ P ^ Kp '^ s- Si x men vere cbckta to act aa l ^^ nn - ^^ follo- wi r-g is a lis : of the names scd j - ^ a ^ i : —Chsries Mfcrciat t , stfiienjssoD ; Hn :: ttr 3 ^ l f * * -fa > 'tter ; S . mctl Gul , ditto ; Tbos . gjj , ** T C : tt 0 ; TbxmiasHarris , nailer ; William H 3 rrU , jjjj ^^ ; E- J . Osborn , f-aHieWoik-knitter , £ ubk ^« ; J oba Pepper , grocer and news-agent , sut > - « i ^ S * * GTOK ~ Od 5 nDday lsst . itree sermons r f 3 j a ^ f " * as ceHrered iD ttas town , by Mr . 07 s " eil , fcjt&crfr * ^ •^ ne aUendtnce in the morning cou-! the nntW " * ^ nnDdred persons : in the afternoon ! tfct ^^ * ^ creafied to abont five hundred , and
I itfesfrZr ^ i , ^* ?^ ? ° f apj > K > pr 5 » te hymns was iai j ^ Zk iJl " ^ tfcst tfiVct , at < l the riiatest ordeT k"T * . oTIkI W € re FrestTTcd at th ° rf-ir-eetive asseraa ktaal * foao" » ag ev ^ in ^ Sir . O NfeiO deUv * -red Pwpjf , ck ;^ ttD J > traDce room , en tbe snuj-ct cf the of citt » ^ * SB ^ tfc ' s occasion several haadrrds bai ^ i ^ ^* !*^ a vsued thgms = ; T 6 s of the c . ppor-° -4 s ^ r ' SUUe ^ urma " ^ ' - ' respecrltg the rt&S m ^ ia ^^ ii ^? VMch had ^ therto bt = a ideuUa ^ d in their r&jjj ^* that ig vio ^ nt and unconstitutional . Rcicsy . ^^ comprised n ^ i-y of the midiJle c : aas of nasdi ^™ 6 few of the ^ S ber dasstsj and the ptty , ^ «« tiiTer ia e : edition of the several J ^ Qof Jf ' P % itiC ' ' -9 T 1 " * -t : fo : enmrisg an effective
kKferg ^ ' ^ sfactJOB , aid it is tbe opinion of our ^ ^ ^ J ^ t ' hT ^ i 111018 bas beeB accomplished in this tf ptrt ^ T blie' sp- « o ! two days , in the removal QsBt e W v » ^ ts > ablishHjei ! t of tbe People ' s ' 141 MiifcmZf . ^ 1 ^ x *^ affections of the people , tcan U ° *^^^ teen e&cted daring the eutire period ; *^*< lt o 2 i ? *' ~ I ^ e Qiartists met it the Demo- i *** * Ni » Si ZO ? P 1 * ee > on Sonday morning , wlieB it ) noa j ^ £ " £ . «»* bH icwwnts of monies collected ** tkjj a ^"" W ** having been » notioned by tbe i J ^ SwTS !!? 1 *** 1 * 1 ' * " i « Wicly « ad in the chapel , < ^ " « n ^ S !! f eeor thn * I > emai 8 *» appointed to ; ** ti ^ I . ^!^ BP 0 B tb « varioBs localities , t « defray A tf ^^ demenstration . ? Mwc 3 T ^ f ET 1 S 6 lna hdd •* ^ e A *™ P 1 * 06 ' ^ Ltfe V ^ ffc to conaido the proprl- ty of a meetthat
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MAKSHESTBa . —At a meeting of the Council the plan proposed by toe London Committee for cuilia ? a Conference , to be held in London , on the 26 th of the present ' month , was read from the Sorthern Star of Saturday last , and after some discussion tbe following resolution was proposed by My . D . Donavaa , seconded by Mr Lane , and carried unanimously — " Having seen in the Northern Star , a request , or notice , calling npon Uw country vo elect delegates , tor the purpose of attend , ing a CoEfarwsce , t * be h : ld in LoadoD , haviagforifca oYj . zt the consideration of the best means for the
rs-organizition of the National Charter Association , we , the members of the Council , for Manchester , express oar determination to take no part whatever in tbe business transacted on that day , on account of the very ahert and insufficient notice that tas been given to the various localities ; nevertheless we are willing at fconie future period , when the members of the Association general . y have had an opportunity cf expressing their opicioob , to eo-oparake ^ rith oar London brethren in the all-importM ! object ot making sucb alterauoiis in tie plan of or ^ fesv . ion , as will render it nAre conducive to promote the bt * t itterests of the movement "
Carpestjsb s Hall . —On Sunday last two lectures were delivered in the above hall by the Rev . W . V . Jackson , en the principles of practical Christianity . Tbe lectures were well r * c » ive < 4 by the large sad respectable auditoccs , and at tbo conclusion ol tb * even ing ' s lecture twelve new members were enrolled . A gentleman of the name of Smith ( rave tbe sum of two shillings and sixpence for the furtherance of the Chartist cause . OLD HAM . —ilr . Thomas Clark , from Stockport , delivered a lecture ia the Cha : ter Association Rjom , on Sunday evening last , to a large and respectable audie n ce , subject , tfcelapd and its capabilities . At tbe conclusion several questions were put to the lecturer , which he arswered to the sati » facrion of hiB audience , and also the parties making the
iuquixies-KOSSX . EY . —On Tnseday ercnics a lecture was delivered in tbe Association Boom , Brook Boitom . by Mr . Wm . Dixon , from Manchester . At tbe conclusion of the lecture a very banUjame collection wag made for the General Defeoca Fund . This stual ! village has aireedy subscribed £ 4 to ' . bat fund , snd a ; e now actually engaged in getting a second subscription . "We cope that the other localities in South Lancashire will imitst « their praiseworthy example . TOD 2 HORDEN . — Mr . Wra . B ' , of Manchester , visiti-d this place ou Sunday last , and delivered two excei : eut lectures in th-j Odd FAUwa" Hail , to numerous audiences .
NEWCASTLE : —The adjourned meeting of delegates from tbe Counties of . Nurtbnmfetrland and Durham was resumed ia tbe Tyr . e Dock Tavern , South Shilds , on Sunday , Mr . Curry in th « chair . Tbe miBUiai of tat previous metUui ; having been read and confirmed , « nd the state ef the district ascertained by the delegates present , resolutions srere carried fixing the salary of the district lecturer , and appointing Mr . Beesley &s lecturer for the next three months . Messrs . Hall and Siuciaii tendered their re ? ignat : oDS as district treasurer and secretary , which wtre received , and a vote of . th&aks tendered to each of them for the manner in which they had discharged tbe duties of their office
since their appointment . Mt . Wm . Gilnilan was duly elected as diitrct Secretary , and Mr . Southern , jun ., of the Tyne- Dock Tavern , Soath Shields , as district Treasurer for the counties of Durham and Northumberland ; and after disposing of some local business , it vs-aa agreed that the meeting of ^ legates do now adjourn until Sunday , 25 th June , when it will be resumfed in the Chartist Room , ClukVpaesage , ( opposite Roi . n B'jn ' slane . i Susdetland , at one fe ' clock in tbe aftemoon cf that day . —Any locality wishing the servjc * of Mr . Beesley , may be accemmodate 4 by givlDg a vrerk't previous notice to ilr . Wm . G < fillan , joiner , TyDe Dock Tavern , Long-row , South Shield ; .
The meetikg in tbe Cb'iiusi's Hall was addressed by Messrs . SvaUow , 8 . D ^ vis , and B . Watson , with good effect , cm Sunday evening . THE Chartists of Newcastle and Gatesbead held their weekly business meeting on Vocday evening , Mr . Yc . nr . g in the chair . The minutes of the previous meeting having brtn read and confirmed , M r . Sinclair ( in the absence of Mr . Smith ) gave a report of tbe delegate meeting at Sfcirlds , and stated his reasons for the course he thought proper to adopt at that meeting , which he thought met tbe wishes of m msjerity of his constituents .
SCK P ERI A K U . —Mr . Beesley delivered bis second lecture on ti > B land here en Monday night last , In the ChartisVs lecture room , Clark ' s P assage , to a crowded and Very respectable audience . Discussion being invited st tbe conclusion of tLe lecture , several questions were asked ; and satisfactorily answered by Mr . Betsley . Three new members were t-nro ' . lefi . Debati > g Societt . —On Sunday last , the question " 1 b it , or is it not , the duty of CbristianB to become Chartists ?* ' was discussed by tbe members of this society ; and , after two hours' debate , it was adjourned until Suaoaj next , when the question will be fully gone into . The working men of Sunderland are earnestly invited to attend . The debate to commence at two o ' clock , p-m .
LXVBBPOO 1 V—A publie meeting was held here in the Association Boom , on Wednesday the 10 th , to take into consideration the conduct cf Mr . Baron Gurney in tbe case of Mr . William J ^ nes . Tbe meeting was crowded . Mr . S . Cowan was called to the chair . Mr H . Jones moved tbe first rvaolution , declaring that "the conduct of Baron Garney , upon the trial of Mr . William Junes , was disgraceful acd unconstitutional , and that » petition be presented to the House of Commons , prayi : ; g an icquiry into the cisa" Mr . J . Lowden seconded the motion , which was carried . Mr . E . Jones proposed
the petition , which was seconded by Mr . VV iiiiam i McKaigbt , and ordered to be forwarded to T . 8 . ^ Da-combe , Esq ., for presentation . Tbe Council held ; their usual weekly meeting , after settling stme prelimi- ; naiy bu * ' u » ess , it was resolved that " The leading article in the S t ar , u p on t b e ' Irish Repeal , ' be again read st our Wednesday evening weekly meeting . " At the usaal weeklj meetisg , tbe Council took into consi . deration the case of Mrs . McCartney , and a resolution I was passed that the Treasurer pay to Mrs . McCartney ten
shillings-BHADPORD . —On Sunday afternoon , Mr . Davies pr ^ chea in the open air , in iront of the Odd ; Fellows *" Hall ; and in the evesii ;* , in the large ' room , Buiterwonh Building * . Collections were made &t each sermon to defray expenses . , Os So-dat Evem . ng the members of the Council met in ibeir ruom , Buiterworih Buildings , when the , following sums were paid as contribution : —Wap- j ping , Is . 6 i . ; Linle Horvon , Is . lOjd . ; Central : Locality , 2 =-. ; George's Street , 4 s . ; from the Room , ; 1 =. ; it wasresolred , "That each locality do take , into consideration tbe propriety of baviDg a Courert ; and Bail , on Wnit Monday , the proceeds to delray the rent of the room . " Tae meeting adjourned to Sunday eTening , at hx o ' clock , when all thememoers { of the Conncii are requested to attend , as the ooots : of tue A .-sociatic-n are to b ? audited , the agency acconn's seitled up , and oiber important business to > be brought before the Council . I
O . > MosBii evening Mr . Smyth lectured in the Charnsts school room , "VShite Abbey , on the best mode of rept aling the corn laws . O . n Mosdat eTcning the Repeal of the Union Assw-aiion , m « at the house of Mr . Daly , Broadstones , ^ h-a Ilr . O'Connor ' s speech at Manchester , was j read from the X < tnhern Star , and the Editor's com- \ mems , amidst tbe cheers of the meeting . Ox TcevEu y evening a public meeting was held in ! Buucrworib ' s-buildnus , to take into consideration , the establishment of a stationer ' s shop , the proms to ; go to forward the people's cause . In consequence of the small attendance , tae iueeting was adjourned to Sunday eTeiiing Belt . O . n Monday evening a large meeting was held at White At-bsT , ou the milk monopoy , when resolutions were " ununimonsly carried not to purchase milk ai the present aig ' a price .
HALIFAX .-Mr . J ohn West delivered an eloquent address in tn * Charist meeting room , Peuonlane , on Tuesday evening last . Although we had intimatf d Jo the people Lot to open the above room nntil riondav next , noiwiihstaEdiag this nonce , when Mr West waa announced to appear , the room was filled to suffocation . Af er Mr . West sat down , iir . Da ^ es , ot Hawick , who was present , delivered a uithv aedres-. —Ail communic&tioua for this place to be be addressed to Mr . B . Bu'ierly , Back Albionsireet . BiHXfNGBAM . — AsTOX-STBEBT—At tbe weekly meeting of the ooundl , the minutes of the Conftrence wereiread over and confirmed , f fter which Mr . Newbouse was elected as aecretary foTthe ensuing mouth , and Mr . Fellowi as treasurer .
Mr MASOU addwwed an open air meeting on the ^ t rc ^ Q , Dtvdderton-row , on Sunday morntog K which ^ ray w ell attended . He ««» fi « lj »« SSition of conttnutog to hold ouMoor meeft jp W Sunday morning and erening throughout the ¦ ummer . Ship Jss , 8 TEBLH 0 rsELA > B .-The usual weekly meeting of Chartirt . wss held at tlu « place cu Sunday even * * last , wbenabalance sheet ot rncome " £ * £ ** diture for the last three months was brought befm ' the meeting , which gave general satisfaction ; ¦«• " *** Mr . Eames gave a lecture od the union and brotherly feeiii g that ought to exist amongst all political bodiea cf men seeking ibb TeUtuipa » J of tbeir country ^
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SHEFTIEI / D . Fig-tree Lane On Sonday evening last , Mr . Grammajje lectured on Free Trade and the Land ; subj-cts which he handled in a masterly style , to the complete satisfaction of his audience . On Mondat evening , a public discussion was held to consider the question of R-peai , and tbe threatened determination of tbe Government to crush tbe spirit <; f liberty in Ireland , Mr . Clayton in the chair . Mr- Edwin 6 . 1 ! , after reading the Duke's aDBwer to Eirl Roden , ia the House of Lords , and Peel ' s answer to Lot <\ Jocelya , in the House of Commons , moved the following resolution : — " Tnat the Chartists of Sheffield having united for the obtalament ot equal rf * h's aad
privileges for all , hereby tender the right hand of brotherhood to our fellow euffjrera in the sister isle , and assure them of our hearty co-operation and support , in their endeavonrs to obtain the liberty of their native land . At the ' same titna we urge upon them the necessity of destroying class legislation ; without which neither their no ; our rights can ever be permanently established . " The resolution was seconded by Mr . Morton rU > ys . on . After some observations by Messrs . Browning and > 1 G : t * van it was put and carried unanimously . Mr- £ fill moved , and Mr . Hall seconded" That the question be further considered on the following Monday . " Carried .
KOTTINGH / tfK . —The femaie chartists of Nottingham Bret at the Democratic Gbspel , Rice-place , on Tuesday evening , wasn nine new members were enrolled . ABERDEEN . —A discussion en the land question which has absorbed our attention tfi .-se two week ' s , has terminated for the meantime . The Government against the Irish Repealers will now be briefly taken up . We have observed the recommendation from Perth , anything to concentrate the power of the people ia extremely desirable ; but nothing short of a Union embrteiug Eneland , Ireland , and Scotland , can affect that oVject . The following resolution was adopted : — " Tost from what baa recently appeared in the
Northern Star , we are led to believe that Mr . C . Murray is in possession of the knowledge of something which , if generally known , would destroy the confidence of the Chartist body in Mesar * . Abram Duncan , aad Hobert Lowery . We do therefore think that in order to prevent bickerings and dissensions in the Chartist body from being got up on frivolous and trfl-ng pretences , that tbe Chartist Association , of * -b : ch Mr . Cou Murray ia a member , should call upon him to make known to them his charges against Messrs . Duncan and Lowery , and , if satisfied that the ; are of (¦ uffident importance , that he ( Mr . C . Murray ) be
appointed to prove the same in public discussion , in presence of the accused , who shall be there to defend thfrKselres . Ttat if this coarse is pursued ( as Mr . Mr Robert Lowery is &t present lecturing in Aberdeen ) , tbe Ccupcil of the Aberdeen Northern District Chatter Union will be prepared to enter into arrangements with the Association of which Mr . C . Murray is a member , to ensure fair play , and a emmodioua place of { meeting . Bat until sucb a course as this is adopted they must hold these charges against Messrs . Duncan and Lowery as frivolous and vexatious , if not utterly groundless , and without foundation in fact . ''
STOCKFOKT . — On Sunday evening last , Mr . JohD Allin > on delivered an eloquent and well-timed lecture npon the sutject of the Repeal of the Union At the conclusion , the unanimous thanks of the meeting were awarded him . Ox Tdesdat tvENiJve , Mr . E . P . Mead , of Birmingham , paid us a visit , and for the first time in Stockport opened the meetiDg by singing " Rally around him . " After which he entered npon a lengthened and able lecture npon tbe Land versus Rattle Boxes and Steam . The greatest possible attention was paid , and the lecturer gave the highest satisfaction .
LONDON . —Clerkenwell . —On Monday evening , a numerous and respectable meeting was held at the Commercial Ccfftse House , 34 , Clerkenwell Green , for the purpose of bearing a lecture from Mr . Balls , on tho Britirh Constitution and for the transaction of the business ot the locality . Addresses were delivered by Mr . Balls , Mr . Cowen , and Mr . Skelton . The Members met as usual at 1 , China Walk , and deputed Mr . Ross and Mr . B&teman to attend tho conference next Tuesday , at 1 , Turnagain Lane , to consider the Plan of Organization . Correction of Errors in Balance Sheet of Political Victims Support Fund , in last week's Star : — s . d . Kcnnington Common 8 8 J Gathered at the hall door by three
ladies 12 7 $ By Mr . Ford ' s book 8 3 All persons holding books for the above fund are requested to return them on Saturday and Sunday evenings at the Hall , Turnagain-lane , that a balance sheet may be published . In conseq . l e ; nck of ill health Mr . R . Ridley will be unable to lecture on S « inday afternoon at KenoiDgtoa Common . A Public Meeting was held on Wednesday evening , May 10 th , at the City of London Political and Scientific Institution , 1 , Turnagain-lane ; admission 2 d . Mr . Dron was called to the chair , and in an appropriate address opened the business of the
evening . Mr . Doyle moved the following resolution : — " That this meeting deeply deploring the widespread distress and want which afflict the industrious millions of this country , and viewing these common calamities as the results of class legislation , resolves to pursue tbe establishment of the People ' s Charter as the only efficient and ample remedy of the social wretchedness and political injustice of which we complain . " Mr . Brown seconded , aud Mr . Bairstow supported the motion , which was agreed to . Mr . Parkea moved the next resolution , — " That this meetiDir looks with disgust and indignation on the
mean and miserable crusade against Chartism , entered into by tbe present administration , and determines to use all le ^ al efforts ot peaceful resistance to such an arbitrary and despotic procedure , and also solemnly pledges itself to support the victims of the unjust and vicious system , in their struggle for the imperishable principles of democracy . " Mr . Arthur seconded and Mr . Harcey supported , the resolution , whsch was unanimously carried . Miss Inge then britfly addressed the meeting . A vote of lhauks was gm > n to the chairman , and the meeting dispersed with cheers for the Charter , victims , &o .
At a meeting at the Political and Scientific Institution , 1 , lurnagain-lane , Mr . M'Doiiald in the chair , after some ditcussion , a scale of duties to be performed by the Secretary w » s agreed to , and 31 k . per week fixed as his salary . Messrs . Salmon and Wheeler were the only candidates ; Mr . Salmon resigned in favour of Mr . Wheeler ; Mr . Wheeler declined standing , being unable to devote his whole time to the institution . No other candidate being in the field , Mr . Wheeler was elected Secretary pro tem ., and the election deferred for six weeks . Ali nomination- to be sem in writing to tbe Seeretary pro tem ., 243 i , Temple-bar .
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BATH- —On Thursday week an interesting lecture on thfl land question was delivered by Mr . Mar / iott . COVENTRY . —Mr . Arran , of Bradford , preached a Cliartisl Sermon on Grey Friars' Green , on Sunday afternoon .
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HOUSJK uk COMMONS—Tuesday , Mat 16 . Mr . C & * VCB concluded a Jong and uninteresting speech , by askfng leave to introduce a bill for amending the act which regulates employment in mines and collieries . He brought the sufrjeot under the attention of t h e Hou se i n g r eat detail , and proposed that in Scotland any unmarried woman above the age of eighteen should b ) permitted to work under ground . Obtain Lockhart seconded tbe motion . Lotd Ashle-s ( who was imperfectly heard during his Bpeecn ) said , so general and vigorons an attack bad been made upon the act which he had originated , that the House would see the necessity of his occupying some little of their time in defending it , and be trusted for
their indulgence , whilp he enumerated the many beneficial effect * -which Tlfftt-jeBuHed from it already , and pointed out what other results might be expected from it if it was allowed fairly to run its course . He did not think any case bad been made out for the interference of the Hoase with tho Act Why waa Scotland to enjoy an exemption which was not to be extended to England or to Wales ? He had received complaints from many parts of tbe country saying that Scotland was to enjoy an advantage which was denied to them . Surely the law which was good for regulating the mines in England was equally good for Scotland ? They bad heard a great deal of the hardships which the females had Buffered by Doing thrown out of employment ; but was nothing to be said in favour of males who had been
excluded from labour by the employment of the females ? —( hear , hear . ) Let tbe people of Scotland observe the enactments of the law as well as was done in England , and then as good results would follow in the one country as in the other . In order to show what had been done in England be would read an extract of a letter from Dewsbary : — " The young girls have been all drawn out of tbe pits , and their places supplied by men and boys . I learn that in the neighbourhood of Barnsloy and Silkstone , where you saw so many miserable scenes , it has done a great deal to bring about a more beneficial state of things . ... Id some instances tbe poor weavers , who had nothing else to do , have go : e to work instead of the girls . " Was not that a consummation
devoutly to be wished ? From Silkstone ho had received a letter , of which this was an extract : — "I have just witnessed tbe emancipation of about thirty young girls and boys from tho pits , and they seemed highly delighted , especially the girls , who expressed themselves , ' This is one of the best acts that ever were passed , ' for they bad long been tired of working in these boles of darkness and misery . " From Huddersfield aud Leeds be had e same gratifying accounts . They said— " The parents are taking the children out quite willingly , and say they have baen long grieved to see their daughters made the slaves of a few overgrown unfeeling men . . . . Boys at ten years of age are to take the places of tbe girls . " " I find that the working of the Colliery Act is
produoing all the good you contemplated . I fell in with four girls who have been taken into families as domestic servants , and the mistresses say tb ; y find them quite willing to learn , . . . . aud regret that such clever females should have been so debased by so disgraceful an employment . I find also that tbe places in the pits occupied by the girls nre filled up by men who were out of work . " He had another account from a correspondent , who dated from near Barnsley , April , 1843 : — " I find it impossible to detail a tithe of the geod resulting from the Colliery Act . One female , the wife of a collier , and the mother of two girls wbo worked in pits , told me that she knew not how to give expression to her joy . . . . The husband
formerly spent the earnings of the two girls in intoxicating drink , about nine sbiilings a week , and while in a state of drunkenness he frequently beat her most unmercifully ; but being thrown on bis own earnings he was led to reflection , and the consequence la tbat be baa beoawe mA / t % is his Dibits , and also a church-goer , a place he never before frequented . A lady has taken one of tbe girls , and sent her to school , where she is to remain for two years . The home , which was former ! y like a bell , is now a paradise . This is not a solitary instance ; there are many . The girls are going into service , and . becoming useful members of society . " He had many details of such cases ; and were they not most gratifying to every one ^ vho had assisted to pass tbe bill into a law ? Would not the same results take
place in Scotland if the saiua means were taken to produce them ? He would read one or two more , if the House would oHige him by their patience ; one from collieries near Prescot , in Lancashire : — " It gives me great pleasure to congratulate you on the improved condition of the poor children already emancipated from the trammels of slavery , ignorance , and disease , many of whom are now placed at the charity schools , receiving an education suitable to their humble circumstances , wbicb in after-life will fit them for situations mere congenial to their feelings , and more useful to society . Although females taken from the mines may find some difficulty in obtaining suitable employment , in consequence of their ignorance of household affairs , yet many of them are capable of performing the labour that baa
been executed by tbe Irish on the farms in the neighbourhood , and indeed , from their adaptation to work of various feiiids , such as potato-planting , hay . mukiEg , weediDg , reaping , Ao ., they will have the preference , whilst their places in the mines will be occupied by the other sex , who are now prowling about , and for want of employment are become a public nuisance . I cannot account for the hostility to your humane exertions on any other principle but that of selfishness and short sighttdness , as we ought to consider it is tbe duty of every man the least interested in tbe country's welfare to endeavour to improve tho condition of the suffering poor , and , if posaih ' e , to leave the world better than he found it . " " Prowling about , aid for want of employment bave
become a ruisanca ; " weuld the Hon . and Gallant Member deuy that such a state of things did not exist in Scotland as well us in England ? Tbe Noble Lord the Mexib ' t for North Lancashire was well known to be the proprietor of a number of c lliories , which be ( Lord Ashl ^ yi bnd been allowed to visit ; and although he was averse to buy anything fulsome in the presence of the N » b } B Lord , he must say that anything more kind or more correct in the whole management of that property he had never seen—nay , more , he had not read . He wrote to the Nohle Lord upon the subject of the working of tho Bill , and he <* as favoured with a reply , of whicn the following is an extract : —" Worsley , February , 1813 —Of any practical operation in the particular objects of the measure , it is , of course , too
early to speak . When a barbarising and demoralising system has been pursued almost from infancy , we cannot expect perceptible effects in an instant , from the mtra abrogation of that system . In some respects your measure has bad and will havo to contend with greater difficulties in this district than in others . Female labour in our pits was a moral evil of the first magnitude , its physical evils were not in my opinion felt here as they must have been felt in Scotland and elsewhere . Of course at this period of general depressiun a nu dis tr ess , parents are disposed to count the cost of any measure which cuts off for the moment au addition to their scanty means . In spite of those circumstances , I have met with no parents who did Dot at odc 4 admit that tbe occupation was unfit fer weoches
a s th ey call the m h ere , and I do believe that most of them are glad to have the temptation removed of subjecting their female offspring to degradation , however lucraive . With reaard to the young females themselves , I could wish you no better reward for your labours than to see something of their deportment in the school which Lady F . has openud for their partial instruction . ] am sure you would find evidence that your labours were not likely to he vain or fruitless . There is au appetite for instruction , an evident sense of its value , aud a decency of behaviour which , considering antecedent circumstances , I confess have surprised me by their prevalence . " The measure would be rendered , indeed , vain and fruitless in Scotland were the measure now proposal to pass ; aud as it bad been
attempted to depreciate the authority of those by whom the hom * 8 of theold system had been exposed , he would ask the Hon . Member to listen so one or two statements supported by such men as tht > Bev . Mr . Parlane * of Tranent , the Rev . Mr . Bannermaun , of Ormiston , the Bev . Bruce Cunningham , of Prestonpans , and the Rev . J . Veitch , of Newbottle : — " With some rare exceptions , few of the children that work ia tbe collieries are taught sewing or other domestio work here . Those who go to mines acquire habits of tippling ; it is net uncommon to see children of twelve drunk . Lying , swearing , cruelty , and all sorts of moral evil abound
in tbe fature lives of uneducated miners . " Again , Mr . Thomas Goodhall , agent at tbe Capeldm colliery , in tbe county of Fife , writes— " The colliers are in many places a most barbarous and degraded dan ; and the employment of female * in mines ... has done more to destroy the colliers physically , morally , and intellectually , than any other thing that I know of . ° Again , from clergy in private letters— "In the parish of the women and children used to be wrought in a shameful manner , as I have witnessed . I was an assistant in that parish . " Another—•• I can bear personal testimony to the horrible effects of the ayatem . " It skould b « observed , tbat petitions , state-
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ments , &c , in favour of repeal never mentioned cases of women wno bore coal ( a horrible toil ; only the ' trammers anrt putters . ' Tho Hon . Memlx-r bad been very carefui to keep out of view all but ihesa comparatively easy descriptions of woTk ; but what said such witnesses as the Rev . Mr . Macktfton : — " That the women worked up to their knees in water ; always did the hardest work , and were treated hardly as hu m an " ( hear ); aud what had been the simp le , but tx > pressive laugu : igo of the Scotchwoman who had been examined as to her own experience ot the coal-bearing work ? That fcna labour often piodaced premature delivery , tbat it shortened liie or renders *! existence miserable —( hear , htai . ) " TellQueen Victoria , " said Bhe " that the poor coal-womsn will feel grateful to her
if she vrtll take them from tbe coal-pit and give them a bettar sort of work . " Arsd ( said the Noble Lord ernphaticaii ;/ the Queen has done this ; and I hope the good effects of thb measure will not now be frustrated and destroyed—( cheers ) There hart been e ' laethin !? exceedingly suspicious in the petitions repr .-sentert aa proce 3 ding positively from those who had suffered under th « old system , an : l who it was pretentfed were auxious for its restoration . Upon this point he had some statements to read which he thought would tbrow some singular light upon the manner in which the p « titions bad been got up . A gentleman of great experience in the management ot Scotch coai-rrtiuea cailstt it : — " Selfish and most mercenary plans of certain
coalmasters and iron-masters to overthrow that most benevolent act" Again— ' A disgraceful movement . " Again— "These lamentations for tte destitute females are crocodile ' s tears . " " Slavery , oppression , an d lo v e of gold . " From an agent of great experience— " The opposition to Lord Ashley ' s measure might not appear to much advantage if clothed in the garb of pounds , shillnigs , ami pence ; and accordingly we find its opponents lamenting the injustice that will be done to poor females , their want and destitution , and so on . Of course wa are all awave that no great change like that contemplated by Lord Ashley ' s Aci can take place without causing some inconvenience . " He W ( u !< t now call tho attention of the house to a letter
from Scotland , dated March 8 . 1843 : — From the knowledge I have of tbe coal-raasters , I cannot but say that such attempts proceed , not from any desire to promote the welfare anil comfort of the female miners , but with tho view of advancing their own interests and pecuniary gains . " Also he would read extracts of letters from gentlemen of great experience : — " You will , at once , see by the despicable aud unmanly correspondence , that tbe movement was not by the poor females ; they were dragooned by their master , and this I know for s fact , —I heard tbe females of an extensive colliery heartily bles 3 ypu in very affectionate terms , " " I assure you I have ndftfound one exception to their full concurrence in the measure . " " As to petitions in favout of females remaining in pits , emanating from themselves ,
I am much of the opinion , tbat were those documents 8 crutinis 9 d to their origin they would be found to arise from the influence of those interested in their degradation . " " I know of many instance * where , if young females bad attempted to leave their employment , all their relations would havo been instantly dismissed from tbeir work . ( Huar , hear . ) It is idle to talk of these poor creatures being at liberty to leave tbeir employment It Is absurd to tell the Legislature that tbe petitions are the- productions of these poor women . We know tbe reverse . Want , misery , starvation , &o ., are held up before them , and in fact in many instances they are demanded to sign . " "They ( the getters up of petitions ) waited on tbe clergy of several parishes where mines abounded , and terrified them'by tbe threat
of sending over all and sundry persons discharged under your Lordship ' s act to tbeir several parishes , a burden on the scanty means they possess to distribute to the needy . . . . Many of our clergy , who at first rejoiced in the emancipation of tbe females , have now been dragooned to espouse the cause of the unfeeling mine-masters . " He called the attention of the House to some extracts from correspondence of masters engaged in getting up petitions : — " It is a bill , " says one , " infringing on tbe freedom of the subject . My present feeling is , thai thoso who employ females under ground sheuUl cause those females to petition Parliament in separate bodies . " " My own opinion , " says .-mother , " is that each work which employs females under ground should get those females to petition both Houses of Parliament I fear that the heritors in parishes petitioning Parliament would rather be injurious , as their petitioning would evidently be for the purpose of saving themselves , as many of the females would have to apply to
the parish for itid . I am now resolved that my female workers shall petition aa a body , and should advise all coal workers to get their females to do so likewise . " In another letter : — " I have received a letter from tbe coal-manager of my laud ; and from bis letter , and all that 1 can learn , the colliers in Clackmannan and Fife are in a state of mutiny , and I understand they all belong to the colliers' union . If such is the case , you may rest satisfied they will not allow the females working in pita to sign any petition by intimidation . " Such had been the tactics of tbe getters up of these pretended petitions —( hear ) . He had been informed , be cculd assure the House , that in one case a poor widow , who had withdrawn a young girl from tbe pits , bad a small allowance taken away till she sent the child back to the dreadful work—( Hear , bear ) . But now there was a petition from 200 or 300 " ladies" et Scotland , who , it seemed , were really desirous of sending back tbeir fellow-countrywomen to the coal pits . He could not help expressing his regret , that
" Those whom lace and velvet bless With all tbe soft solicitudes ot dress , " should thus eonie forward for the purpose of consigning poor females to the horrors of coal-pit labour—( Hear ) . He was happy to k ow tbat bo such petitions bad proceeded from Englishwomen—( Hear . ) And further , he was delighted to be able to contrast tbe conduct of the women in our coal districts with that of these Scotch petitioners against some of the ^ nost unfortunate ot their sex . He had heird that in Ywfcsbire , Lancashire , * o . the females of the middle elasses had ex erted themselves strenuously in co-operation with the measure , and had opened their doors to afford a refuge for tbe poor women wbo ba 4 been rescued from tbe pits —( hear , hear ) . In one district , where
seventyfour had left the mines , all but ten had been forthwith received into the houses of the neighbouring shopkeepers and small innholders , &c . provided with necessaries , and kindly taken care of—( hear , hear . ) This was conduct far more grateful to contemplate than the petitioning ef those Scotch ladies , who had added one more to the reasons which sometimes unhapily occurra for inducing the poor to distrust the kindly feelings of the upper classes—( hear ) Let him observe that the plan of the Hon . Gentleman was very much in mitigation ef tbat which was the originally proposed , and in favour of which the greater part of the petitions that bad been presented to the House on this subject . They were for the total repeal of the act , but the nature of the Hon . Member's proposition was this—that
married women were to be excluded , and none but unmarried women should he retained in the pits . But if they were to keep unmarried women in the pits , were they not-taking fiem from the means of attaining those qualities which belonged to married women ? Was it not , ia fact , a direct boun ' y on concubinage ? Was it not introducing , under the pretence of morality , an enormous Parliamentary license of concubinsgt ) ? tHear , bear . ) No doubt there must be in every transition very considerable difficulty , fhere always had bean , and there always would be . But in a leUer which ho had received from a gentleman of great authority in Scotland , the writer , after speaking of the difficulties attending the iutroduction of tbe new law , said he was confident that no reflective man
who had bad experience of the old system and its demoralizing effects would wish for a return to it . He should like tbe House to observe , that if the masters had obeyed the provisions of the law , and had turned o-it the eld women gradually as the law provided , these difficulties would not have occurred . Their duty was to have turned out all females under 18 within three months , aud all others by tbe 1 st of March in the following year . But the fact was that in a vast number of pits they turned out none whatever , and now they said it would create great confusion if they did so . He knew it was the impression of many parts of Scotland that the women were not turned out gradually , bs directed by the act , for the suka of creating that confusion . All the communications he had had on the subject stated
that to be the impression , and he believed that it was correct . ( Hear . t And yet those persons now came forward , and asked for an act which should secure to them tha profit of their own disobedience . But the writer proceeded : — " Female labour in these horribly dangerous places Is attended with greater evils than I had formed any conception of ; hardships which , aboveground , would not be imposed by the hardest masters , unuer-ground females are submitted to labour which would be considered barbarous by any nation under the sun . " Tbe act came into operation in October as to children of tender years ; but in many parts of Scotland
there were many such children still in the pits , and yet gentlemen came forward to ask for an alteration of that act Then again , with respect to " hurrying ' —with which term he had do doubt they were familiar—the writer said , " The hurrjing is done by females oa allfours , harnessed like animals ; their limbs bear tokens of their barbarous employment , from the cats of the ragged rocks and tramways through which they thrust their heavy burdens . " But now let him come to that testimony which had been quoted with so much approbation by the Hon . Gentleman , in respect to tbe Carroa Company . Now , upon that point the writer of this letter said , " The colliers of the Canon Company ' s pits complained to me of the threats which had been re-
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, sorted to r . s an : n , ? ucerjicn 5 to fnnke tfet coUUs sign * I p ^' iY . D . " T , ' re V 7 .. s the voiuntiivy r . js ' em a § aiu ; and i whfr . ' nhi the pttuwn lie when the colliers were compeliya t-J sign it ? ' ¦ It lay at the office of the butty * J tb « employment of ft-mak-a being offensive to them ) I a * husbands and fathers , and moreover a causa of loss , as their wiges are thereby diminished . " Then this gentleman went on to Joppa Colliery , near E . iinbtrgb ; and what did he see there f That which the Hon . Member took good care not to state—the abominable system of coal-bearing . " There , " said thewriter , " the abominable custom of coal-beariDg by ft . niales is still continued . " Hh then went on to say , " Descending a pita few weeks since , in the neighbourhood fit Traneut , I never waa more shocked at the
dearadatit . " of a hunrm being , while the toil and suffering which thJ 8 labour icflicts are unequalled . Dragging like horses on their hands and knees through seams in the sharp rocks , wtlch barely admit them , the limbs of j these p-j > or creatures" —and thin was ( joing on at that j moment , iu direct violation of the set— ' are aobj ^ t to j the sevprest br uises and eats while harnessed to their j heavy pads , which they pull to exhaustion over the j tramways , sometimes many inches deep in water . * j Only that morning be hnd received a Isttar containing j this sentence : — " A woman told me the ether day tbatj often wh * a in harness . her shoulders were ^ ao lacrateoT ; that the blood o « -z- ) d through her garments at ths aides ; of the leathern bult . ' And that . was the catsd-tion ofi things to which they were to believe that tbe women ; petitioned to b 3 restored —( hear , hear )—corArary
to-¦ all rsaso : —contrary to all nature—aad if the Hon . : Gentleman hul not said it , he would say , it tras conj tra ? y to- all decency to make the assertion . The first letter tb ? u wound up thus : —* ' I am Kappy ! in being able to assure you thera is bus one opinion among the disinterested of Scotland that the enactment of last session for prohibitfrigt the errrployoiant of women aud childran . ia ttSc coal-pita is tte greatest possibia boon to this portion of the community . " He hoped , then , that House would * not entertain the proposition of the Hon . Gentlemanthat they would not interpose between the operation of an act that came into full force only In March , and which they were now caiKd upon to rescind in every material portion of it in the middle of May . No doubt
there were many cases of hardship ; but , in all the cases quoted by the Hon . Gentleman , they could and ought to have been met by tbe proprietors themselves —( hear , bear , ) They had had , God knew , enough out of the sinews and muscles of these unhappy creatures , and they ware bound by all means in their power to make them compensation . At any rate they bad no right to coaie forward in that Honse to propose an act the upshot of which was neither more nor less than to save their own purses from those just aud equitable contributions . He would state that , to the honour of Scotland , very many of the proprietors had shewn the greatest feeling andkiu < lnes 3 , not only in carrying out the act , but even iu anticipating it ; but for those who persisted in making those propositions , l « t him suegeat
the example of his Rii ; bt Hon . Frie : d at the head of the Gsveraraenfc . His Rijtfht ; Hon . Friend had a colliery , tha lease of which had expired . The tenant on applying for a further Iea 39 , sa i d , that in consequence of this act he could not ' pay so much rent His Bight Hon . Friend accordingly abated the rent in proportion . That pit waa therefore cleared ot femaits , but no doubt to the loss of the proprietor . He would fnrther Bay , tbat there were faff cases of hardship in consequence of this act which could not be met by private contributions . He hoped , then , that the House would put its veto upon this and all similar motions . No good ceuld result from allowing the bill to be introduced , and he hoped
tbat the House never would allow the bill to be passed ; that they never would allow such a system to be repeated in any part of the kingdom . Better would it be at once to put a veto on the motion , and to declare that the House had passed a measure , and tbat they would give to that meisure a fall , fair , and just trial—( heur , hear . ) Let Hon . Gentlemen take the opportunity , and affirm by their votes that night the pricciple which was at all times valuable , but in those days was essentially necessary—that property and station had their duties as w ^ ll as their rights—( hear , hear . ) With those observations , he begged leave to say " No , " emphatically " No , " to the motion of the Hon . Member .
Mr . Hume supported the motion . He would net yield to Lord Ashley in his desire ts make his fellowcreatures happy ; but be saw no objection against allowing women of mature age to accept labour at thsir own option . Sir J . Graham , while he desired to do the fullest justice to tbe . motives of Mr . C . Bruce , must resist his proposal . Experience was uniform in favour of the exemption of women . You could not degrade the women without 'demoralizing and brutalizing the men . The experiment of amelioration bad hitherto been the most successful . Mr . Curteis said he would rote with Lord Ashley , and added some sentences upon the Corn Laws , the application of which was not clearly discerned by the House .
Lord F . Egerton thought the mover ' s speech proved too much , for it really went to show the labour in mines aud collieries was among the most eligible modes of female employment He testified to the success of the exemption of women in Lancashire , and would eoncur with Lord Ashley in opposing the motion . Mr . Roebuck admitted that legislation might be properly applied to the labour of children ; but he did think that adults , whether man or women , were better judges than Parliament of the way in which their own labour should be employed . His sympathies , indeed , were with the law that excluded women from underground work ; but he could not agree to legislate for the regulation of any labour , except of those who were not competent to exercise a discretion for tbemsplves : Lord DUNCANNON , though not without hesitation , resolved to give his vote iu concurrence with Lord Ashley .
Mr . P . Stewart , in respect of the present distress in Scotland , which rendered this particular time a yery inconvenient oue for the closing of any channel of employment , was content to vote for the introduction of the bit , although as to tbe geneial principle he concurred with Lord Ashley . Mr . Forbes was understood as being favourabid to the introduction of the bill . Mr . Brotherton , considering the class of persons in question , and tbe influences exercised upon them , could see no more objection to legislating for them , than to legislating for children ; and he hop 6 d the House would not undo the measure of Lord Ashley . Mr . Lockhart supported the motion of Mr . C . Bruce , and vindidcated the motives of the Scotch owners , by whom the object was promoted . Mr . Hindley opposed the motion , and contended that the House had a perfect right to legislate agaiust any uuuanue , whether physical or moral .
Mr . Alderman Thompson believed , that in South Wales , great as was the present distress , the men would endure ten times as mnch rather than let their wives or daughters undertake this kind of employment It was , in its own nature , unfit for women , and he would resist this motion . Air . C . Brvce replied . He had no wish to Interfere with the general principle of Lord Ashley ' s bill , that the labour of women should eventually cease ; but he desired to mitigate the evil of too sudden a cessation . The ground , therefore , on which he put his motion was , not tho doctrine advanced by Sir . Roebuck , that it is unfit to legislate at all for regulating the labour of adult * The House divided—Forthe motion 23 Against it 137
Majority against it 114 Sir C . Napler then brought under the considera " tion of the House the subject of the naval lists . He eulogized the character of our naval officers , and their services both in war and in peace , and eomplaii ed that a naval officer was not placed at the head of the Admiralty . He moved an address to Her Majesty , praying that she would give directions for a list on which captains mifiht retire with an increase of pay . Lord Imgestre asconded the motion . Sir R . Peel could not agree that the first Lord of the Admiralty should necessarily be a naval man , although he fully admitted that a naval man might often be advantageously appointed to that office . Acknowledging , as he did , the justice of the praise bestowed by Sir C . Napier on the existing officers of our navy , he could not think that system a very bad one which bad produced a body of officers deserving such a panegyric . As to the present proposal , he hoped tbe House would enable him to resist it with success .
Lord J . Rus&bll doubled whether the House of Commons ought to address the Crown at all for the purpose of directing the course of the Executive Government in sucb a matter as the conduct of tbe navy . It was on that account that the late Ministry , when they deBired to revive the naval snd military services , bad advised the Crown to issue a commission of its own , on which the Duke of Wellington had consented to act , for the purpose of furnishing such practical advice as the Executive Government might safely adopt With resp&ct to this particular proposal , he would leave it to tbe consideration of tbe Admiralty and tbe decision of the Government ; and hoped Sir C . Napier would noi press it to & division . Captain Berkeley concurred in this hope , believiag that the discussion would meanwhile hav 3 had a beneficial effect .
Captain Pechell charged the admiralty with having paid more regard to services on the hustings than to sarvicea on the quarter-deck . He gave credit to Government for having now manned the navy ; but they had been in former days the first to- un-man it . Captain Pujmridge complained ot the slowness of naval promotion . Mr . S . Herbert vindicated the Impartiality with , which naval patronage had been distributed by the present First Lord of tbe Admiralty . As to tbe civilians employed in the dockyards , they wen chief y artisaaa , such as masons , carpanters , and so on i and conBequeatly their places could not have been filled by seamen . He referred to the testimony which Sir C . Napier himself had lost year borne to the integrity as well at ability of Lord Haddlngton's administration . Sir C . Napier , in reply , defended himself on serenl pointe , but withdrew his motion . * The orders of the day were then disposed of , and thq , house adjourned .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), May 20, 1843, page unpag, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1213/page/1/
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