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[ Om&nud from the lira P « a « ' ) ' British market . The ltrge profits of the foreign corn-Tower on the importation of the article into Enaland would furnish him Vith capita , which he would apply to the raWng of moro corn . And how were the " ' manufacturers to lie benefited by thh measure ? Only by the rahictin of wages . The price of labour must fall with the price of corn . If the labourers' wa ? es were to be reduced , they ought to hare the balance < if advantages fairly put before them . The noble Lord then showed the fallacy of the notion that Russia , Prussia and the United States would not take our manufactures because we did not take their corn , and i hat our exports to these countries would increase after the bill passed . ¦ i > admitUS * that there would be a great increasein
the exports of our manufactures , difficulties roight ^ ri se and war intervene ; and when foreign ^ mar k ets were closed against « , and «^ ** S , * 5 home markets , then « mia be the , pergi ot bitter suffering to all , « d «^ ny to m ^^ m- . jaKff ^^ -r ^ ASS SSteSvalentt ^ rcdnction of 40 * . an acre on theS 2 land of the country , and when you accompany that reduction with a corresponding reduction on ^ rther articles , you will find that it w . 1 eat up the -whole of the rental of the landed proprietors . ( Hear , hear ) But that loss will ultimately fall not mainly on the landlords , it will flko fall on the tenantfirst
farmers and the agricnltorallabonrers ; for the step which those tenant- f armers will be obliged to take , will be to relieve themselves from all extra outlay . Tneymnsi suspend all intended improvement * , they must discharge their labourers , they mast reduce the rate of wages , and the result will be to pour those unhappy labourers into the manufacturing districts , then , in hopeless competition , endeavouring to proenre the lowest species of employment—carrying their wretchedness along with them , to pine away in misery in manufacturing towns , then to add to the other grievances of competition—pressing down the rate of wages of both the agricultural and the manufacturing operatives—reducing them far IjsIow that standard which would exist had each partv been allowed to oecnpv its own sphere . ( Hear ,
hear . ) The first thing the landowner would be obliged to do would be to dismiss a certain portion of Ms establishment , tho necessity of the case would demand the sacrifice , however painful , for , Jet it be borne in mind , that whatever may be said against the landlords of this cauntry , it cannot be stated of them they are a class of men who are guilty of either accuaralatin " or of hoarding their wealth . (" Hear , hear , " and cheers . ) On the contrary , they spend their incomes in a becoming manner , so as to diffuse the largest amount of comfort among all classes . ( " Hear , hear , hear , " and cheers . ) But we are told that , by reducing the amount of emploympnt , we are oulv adopting the principles of free trade . ( Hear , iear . ) What is this principle of free trade ? Is it ti dismiss every man that may be deemed useless or
unprofitable , and to employ no man beyond that unuiber which may be absolutely required to pro-3 uce a certain profit to the employer ? ( Hear , hear . ) Was there to be no consideration fop those tenant-farmers who had resided on the same lands , perhaps , for fifty years or more ? None whatever . ( Oh . ) We avc told it would be more profitable to have one Jar <; c farm than three small ones , and , therefore to ' act on that principle the command tkhiIcI go forth to pull doivn the small houses of human beings in order to carry out the principle of large farms . ( Hoar , hear . ) By such a , procedure , if ^ permitted , the burdens of the country would be only increased ; for , even should your feeiings revolt at such a system , t : ; e Jaw fnipnscson you the burden , and it imposes it on yon exclusively , to maintain , not only
the agricultural poor , but also the poor manufacturing operatives . But I have too high an opinion of the landlords of England to suppose they would act on such a principle . I believe they will afford to the very utmost all the employment they can give to those who arc in need in their respective localities . ( Hear , hear . ) The landlords Icnow they have not to deal with stocks or with stones—they know they Lave to deal with human beings who have the same attachments , the same feelings , and the same affections and sympathies as themselves . I do not believe under tlie pressure of the greatest difficulties , the landlords of England would adopt , even for their own protection , that hated selfishness , those doctrines of political economy , which are in such high repute in partlcu ' ar quarters . ( " Uear , 'Jiear , ; hear , "
and clieers . ) But should the system be adopted in England , if yen venture to recommend to the people of England , will you dare to advice its adoption for " Jrelantl , the bulk of whe ? e population consists of small farmers , varying from one to twelve or fifteen acres : men who exist m the land , who have no capital , who admit they cannot pay lialf that rent - which the possession of capital and skill would enab' . e them ta do ? ( Hear , hear . ) Will you ' earrv into Ireland yoar doctrines of political economy ? If you do the landlords will suffer the clearance system ] have heard denounced , and most justlr . But in Ireland , your doctrine will produce a wholesale application of that systeai . ( Hesr , hear . ) You may make much more money—you may endeavour to preserve vonrselves from all loss by turning off your Irish
tenants— : you may endeavour to exhaust generation af ter generation—you may starve them out of possession—but would sueli a course be attempted , would it be legalised l < y law ? lie would be a bnl'l minister ¦ who would fidvise it—hewouidhe a iiardy man who -n-euld attempt to cariy it into effect . ( " I / ear , hear , lear , " and cheers . ) And do you te l me that the repeal of the Com Laws out to l > e brought forward as measure of relief to Ireland . It might be in sorse respects argued thnt it would be a measure of relief to England—jes , it mi « ht in a degree be a benefit to her population , not but I doubt it in the long run . ( H ? ar . j But to apply it to Ireland , which exclusively exports her agricultural produce , which is entirely au export , and not an import country—to tell me that' vou are benefiting Ireland by
rcducinsr the tariff on her exports to the amount of £ 2 , 000 , 000 a year is a proposition too monstrous to be enter ) aincd for one moment . ( Hear , hear . ) The noble Lord then showed the injurious effects of the measure upon the colonies . From a return which ¦ was laid before the House af Commons in 1 S 45 , it apMsrs feit the colonial trade is exclusively carried on in British ships , by British seamen . and givinglhe pnifitsoflhetnideonliothsidestoBriti ^ hsubjcetsexclu sively . The exports in 1 S 41 amounted to £ J 4 , 347 , G 00 . ( ilear . ) When you thus look at the amount of the export trade , will you destroy that principle of Protection which secures so large an amount of tirade to this country ? ( Hear , hear . ) If you do , you destroy the whole of that basis on which our colonial system rests , ( ll ^ ar , hear . ) If you do not know the
ad-¦ Rintagps of your colonies , I tell you Napoleon Buonaparte knsw these advantages well . ( Hear , hear . ) By yoar colonial sysieni being based on the principle of Protection you have extended your arms—I do not mean veur nii'itary arms , 1 mean your commercial aims 1 and you have extended them to every corner of the !;' iobs . ( Hear , hear . ) To your colonial system yauowe all you posses ? . Your owe your power audiniiuence wherever the flag of England floats , wherever her language is heard or uttered—in every clime , in ctm lan « . ( " Hear , hear , " and cheers . ) In every zone in either hemispheres —( ' * Hear , " and cheers)—the power and the sovereignty of Britain are aclcnow ' . eiigad . Wherever that language is known , wherever that flag waves aloft , there you recognise "t ^ l ^ e wlio uiirtir-iuaic in your common Interests , who
shave h > your glory , who sympathise in your adversity , «•• : <» ,-tre proud to ben a part in vour bni'dcns , to be embraced within the arms of votir eoniuierciai policy . IKbey arc proud . I say , to foci themselves to be tlierocm 3 > ersftf your jircnfcauclinipi rialZullrerein . ( Immense elict-was- ) -Mr Cnbdtn denounced the STsteni of mutual protection , vrli ill iic said was mutual robbery . I ; : mir > t of that opinion . It may ba : i system where cadi sacrifices something to the prontsof trade , fi » r the purpose of ensuring reciprocity and a cciWrnty ot" | -r < . ! it on both sides . 1 think it is a security against foreigu interference—against foreign hostilities and foreign caprice . . Neither do I think it will appear in the long run that that principle is very sound winch enjoins us to buy under all Circumstances m the cheapest and sell in the dc :: re = t
market . But sure 1 am , that whatever disadvantage is sustained by a trilling increase in price to the home consumer on colonial produce , or vieeversa by the loss incurred by the colonist in purchasing British goods exclusively , thafcdisadvautageiscae . -iid . y purchased by the extent of power which we acquire by our system all over the world—by our having in every quarter friends , allies , and confederates—by havin ^ acertainty of employment and a certainty o ! consumption not to be interfered with by foreign competition—by the amount of British shipping engjujed—by the vast number of seamen employed , who are ready to give additional power and strength to this country whenever required . Yes , taking into account all these things , I must declare that 1 concur with Mr . Cobclen in his representation , that is not , indeed a mutual robbery , but a mutual insurance . ( Loud cheers . ) My Lords , I say again , that upon this vary system of Protection rests the whole of your colonial system . I say . it rests upon it far more than pecuniary reasons .
( Dear , hear . ) I know very well tho political economists say , ' Cast off Protection—let there ub Free Trade all over the world—give full advantages to Free Trade—let us have no Protection imposed for . the maintenance of our colonieS—cast the colonies away . " My Lords , I say adopt that system . I do not doubt the loyalty of the colonies . I do not doubt even their attachment ; bnt 1 gay you shall then havo done all in your power to weaken the attachment , loosen the bands which tie the colonies to the mother country . ( Hear , hear . ) But once grant commercfal independence , and , you may rely upon it , they liate made a step towards political independence : Wlh . regard to . Canada , we were going ferbrenk ' ourpromise 3 toher , and more , we were about to destroy the communication by the St . Larrrencit and to make New York the channel ef our comniui ideation with Upper Canada ; whilst the ' United States saw eur su icidal policy , and were taking ad-TAOtage Of . it . Bis Lordship continued;—fV / Jien' I
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—y ^ s -- ^^ g ^ s = ss = s ^ am told it « essential to the ^ SdW » eSt jffi ^ aK Sfees ^ JSdTto Sheiies Now hea * what Mr G « gg ssvs h ° iss member of the Anti-C « rn Law League ind a manufacturer . The noble Uv& then went on SJuoSSb Mr . € * egg , who said that the British manufacturer could so longer compete with tfee forei « ner in the neutral markets . At present Mr , Gregg said , we are undersold by the foreigner in the neutral markets in all the staple manufactures o ( this country , in cottone . hosiery , cutlery , Ajc . In cotton we were beaten by the Swiss—in cutlery by """""""""
the Alsatians—in hosiery by the Saxoaa . The nativeB of Saxony have driven ub from tfaa European market to a great extent . In hosiery we used to supply tbree-fcurths of the American maritet—we now scarcely supply our own . The Saxons after paying a duty of twenty-five per cent ., canonder-sell the produce of our Nottingham looms . In Leicester , the stocking tradehad sunk from 1615 to 1440 frames , whilst in Saxony the number of frames increased during the same period from 4 , 390 to 25 , 000 . Ihe English paid 2 s . Gd . for the same work that the French got done for 2 id . With respect to recovering our lost superiority , Mr . Gregg went on to say , that he did r . ot believe that ia any case we could recover it . " 1 do not believe that with respect to woollens
or hosiery we can do so , and even in cutlery or cotton it is very doubtful . " Now let it not be forgotten ( continued the Noble Lord ) that we have at present a market which takes one-third of our exports—that whilst the home consumption is as regards foreign exports as S to 2 , we are now called upon to pass a measure which will effectually damage that home market—i Dear , bear ) by taking from them Protection which they at present enjoy . I think , my Lords— " The force of folly can no further go . " ( Laughter and cheers . ) 1 trus-t , then , your Lordships will not be led away by this delusion—this fallacy of Free Trade . I trust you will not sacrifice the home producer . I hope you will not sacrifice the colonies .
In conclusinn , his Lordship made a powerful appeal to those noble lords who went with him in his argument , and disapproved of and were alarmed at this measure , and yet , for various reasons , were prepared to vote for it , against a blind deference to the authority of the other house , which , according to its recorded votes , had repeatedly negatived this measure . Suck a sudden conversion diminished confidence in the last vote . I must ( said his lordship ) say , that this sudden conversion mnst tend to diminish the value I attach to the last vote of the House of Commons . ( Loud and prolonged cries of " Hear , bear , " and great cheering ) I regard the decision of the House of Commons , not because it is the decision of men more or less
educated ov enlightened , but because it is the decision of the representatives of public opinion m this country , and if I am to be brmnd by any decision of that house it is that which they gave in 1841 , and correctly represented the feelings of those who returned them . Those who disapproved oftke measure , and yet support it from feelings of attachment to the Government , and to tke noble Duke , to them , I say I sympathise with their feelings , but ! cannot assent to the justice of them . ( Hear , hear . ) The interests that are at stake arc too great to be complimented , arising out of deference to any Minister's , or for mere personal considerations . ( Hear , hear . ) Rely upon it that it never can be ultimately for the good of ihe public interest that this house should
sacrifice its own deliberate judgment , should turn round upon its own principles and sacrifice its own character for the purpose of saving a government . ( Hear . ) My conviction is , my Lords , that even so the sacrifice would be made in vain . There never was a government permanently maintained when its existence depend upon the contemptuous sufferance of its opponents—upon the ill-disguised disgust or lukewarm support of its former colleagues . ( Tremendous cheering . ) Some there may be who think that by conceding this measure , they will put an end to agitation , and satisfy the Anti Corn Law League . Tliere cannot be a more futile reasonthere cannot be a greater error . ( "Hear , hear , " and cheers . ) When ever was organised agitation put
down by concession—extorted concession ? ( Hear , hear . ) Depend upon it , a body thus organised , thus banded together , will not so easily relinquish political power , when they have tasted the draught and found it to be sweet . ( Hear , hear . ) The passing of this measure would not suppress the Anti-Corn Law League—there would be either that or some other similar body . But , my Lords , there is no secret made of this . What was the language used by Mr . Lawrence Hayworth , who was chairman of a Free Trade meetina held in this City . ( Cheers . ) After talkinepf the miracle that had been wrought in the Prime Minister , he says , "But there is something more than corn . The people will begin to ask why the system of levying taxes , t > y which the
comforts of the people are destroyed ; should be continued—they begin to ask wlietlier it would not be better to have one fcix , a tax on property , and to abolish the Custom-house altogether . " And he suggests that a board may be hoisted , on which should be writt ' . n , " Honest traders from all ports may land tbeir stuffs here . No taxes—noeustoins . " ( Alaugh . ) He further said , " They had lived to see their cause triumpE ; but he would not have the friends © f Free Trade to relax . They must remember that the House of Lords yet lived—it was the stronghold of the aristocracy . * They were struggling now for something more than the maintenance of commercial liberty ; commercial liberty would promote intelligence . After the settlement of the Free Trade question , thepeopl < -
would have more time to agitate for the great principle of universal suffrage . If it were good for commerce to be free , it were pood for man to be free—if it were good for cottou and corn to be free , it was good for man to be free . Everything which weakened the aristocracy and which increased the intelligence of the people , must be in favour of that noble and Christian cause . " And 1 would wish to call the attention of the Right Rev . Bench to the concluding passage : — "Could they have Free Trade in commerce without Free Trade in religion , or could , whilst such a system of ecclesiastical despotism prevailed as now blinded our country , the time be far distant when the Catholic and the Dissenter would ask why the Church of Christ should be subject
to such trammels ? Freedom of religion , as to be obtained by the separation of Church and State , would be one of the glorious results of Free Trade . " My Lords , if there be one thing nwe than another which it is difficult to guard against , it is the unworthy fear ef being suspected of dishonourable and interested motives . If I were speaking to an ordinary assembly , I might warn them against being led away bysnehafear ; bat addressing such an assembly as I now have the honour to address , I will only say , be not unduly overrated by the consideration or by the fear that it may be asserted that your personal interests are concerned . My Lords , you are the trustees for far more than personal interests—you are the trustees of the interest of the country —( hear , hear )
—you are the trustess for posterity—you are the trustees for the constitution of this empire . ( Hear , hear , hear . ) I ask you , then , my Lords , with what face , after vothigfor thede 8 tuction of all agricultural protection , will you show yourselves in the midst of men who have hitherto regarded you with respect , whose principles and opiuions you have influenced , but who will charge you , and charge you justly , as you now charge the government , with having misled and betrayed those wlio trusted you . ( Applause ) My Lords , if , against your own opimons , you consent to pass this measure , prepare to | abdicate your authority and the high position you occupy in the constitution of this country , If you will allow yourselves to be intimidated by a faction , however formidable , or
induced to give up your opinions at the agitation of & Minister—however great that Minister might beyou niiist be prepared hereafter to be considered as a subordinate part of the constitution . Prepare to be regarded as the registrars of the edicts of the House of Commons , and a 3 the blind followers of the Minister of the present day . ( Cheers . ) My Lords , if I know any tnjng of the constitution , and of the value of this house , it is , that it should interpose a wholesome and salutary obstacle to rash , and inconsiderate legislation . My Lords , if acting upon your own deliberate impartial judgment , you scorn the degrading suspicion of unworthy motives , and you follow that course which , in your eomeienee , you believe to be for the good of the empire , you may be unsuccessful , but you cannot be contemned ; conquered you may be and overpowered by numbers , but you cannot be degraded ; you may fail in saving the
people from the threatened injury , you will secure the approbation of your Mends , and command Uie respect of your opponents . ( Hear , hear . ) If , my Lords , by the blessing of God upon yourexertions , you should resist the progress of this hasty and illconcerted question , and should give time to the public to express their opinions , and thereby be enabled to bring those now in favour of the measure back to wiser councils ; then , indeed , yon wiJ ] be a proud aristocracy , in having conscientiously discharged the duties imposed upon you . By thus having saved the country from a serious and hazardous experiment , your best reward will be the consciousness of haying done your duty ; and you will also have the reward which will arise from a grateful and admiring people , who will exclaim , " Thank God , we have a House of Lords . " ( Immense cheering followed the conclusion of the Noble Lord ' s speech , which lasted for several minutes . ) \
, Lord Brougham , who rose to address the house , amidst cries . of ; " Adjourn , adjourn , " had some diffibulty ^ in . procuring a hearing , and it was not till the nobler lqrd : declared his intention of taking the sense of the'house , against the evident desire for adjoarnmeni , that . be was permitted to proceed s began by ' complaining o [ the disadvantage under which he laboured in addressing their lordships alter ; a | speech of , so much power and eloquence at so late an hour . * , Lord Stanley denied the alltged famine in Ireland ; andVIjeTLord Brougham ) doubted , any gerieral famine in Ireland ; but that a great scarcity
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= existed there could' be no doubt . He might maintain Chat there waa . ao reason for introducing the measure this year , ami yet support the measure on Ub merits . The noble and learned lord then showed the inconsistency of Locd Stanley ' s opposition to this bill with his advocacy « f the Canada Corn B ' ul . With racpeet to the effect . of this bill on prices , the questiou was too difficult to . answer ; it depended upon ft great < variety of- considerations . The apprehensions of large tracts of foreign land being brought into cultivation were utieriy groundless ; ^ hare ' was the capital : ? Where were the labourers \ The operation of increasing the growth of com in euch a country as the Ukraine must be gradual and ¦ stow . He did not that there would be no diminution * . . .
argue of price in consequence of this ibill ; but he thought the diminution would be small . He could , from inquiry , undertake to say that the tenant-farmers n&& not apprehensive of this measure . He bad met wi « i many instances . of farms let at aa increased rentnone in which farms had been refused or let at a reduced rent . He expected that the agriculturists would benefit from this measure to an extent iar beyond tlie sligMloss by a diminution in price . Lord Stanley had maintained that this country should not be dependent upon foreign nations for the food of the people , and contended that a war would exclude us . But Napoleon ' s almost universal power could not seal up the ports of the continent against the exportation of grain to this country , for in one year ( 18 J 0 ) , a million and a half of quarters were sent hither , a
great part from the ports of France itself . The argument drawn by Lord Stanley from the existence Oi protective laws in other countries was neutralised by his admission that the moment a pressure came the law was suspended in all thoBe countries . The noble and learned Lord then discussed the other arguments of Lord Stanley , to which he replied in Some detail , and prognosticated , tbatif we set other nations the examp le of a liberal tariff , they would follow it , and the " benefit would be mutual . The noble and learned Lord concluded by disclaiming all community of feeling with those who assailed the landed interest , upon which , as well as upon Sir R . Feel , he pronounced a high eulogiam . On the motion of Lord Wiwojt , the debate was adjourned till Tuesday , and the house adjourned at a quarter to two o'clock .
HOUSE OF COMMONS—Mondat , Mat 25 The Speaker took the chair at the usual hour .
IRISH LAND COMMISSION . Mr . S . Chawfokd begged , pursuant to notice , to ask Sir R . Feel , whether any Bill or Bills on subjects referred to , and recommended for consideration in the Irish Land Commission report will be proposed by her Majesty ' s Government this session ; and if so , when it may be expected they will be submitted to Parliament , and to what points of such recommendation they will relate ? . Sir R . Peel said , the lion , gentleman knew how the government had been engaged for several weeks . In addition to that , his noble friend the secretary for Ireland had for several days been unable to attend to public business in consequence of indisposition ; DUi
he trusted that before many days the government would be able to lay three measures upon the table o : the housse founded upon the report of the Landlord and Tenant Commission . It would be premature to state the object of those measures at the present moment ; but he might be permitted to state their general subject . The first would be a bill for making compensation to tenants for improvements on the land . ( Hear , hear . ) The second would be a bill to amend the laws relating to ejectment and distress in Ireland —( Hear)—and the third name contained a general form of lease , which might be adopted by landlords in Ireland . ( Cheers . ) On moving the adjournment for the holidays , he would mention the day upon which he hoped to introduce these
measures . CONGRATULATORY ADDRESS TO HER MAJESTY . Sir R . Peeii moved a similar address to that moved in the Lords by the Duke of Wellington , which was briefly seconded by Lord John Russell , and unanimously adopted .
DISCHARGE OF MR . SMITH O'BRIEN . Upon reading the order of the day , Mr . Shaw said , that as [ he understood his Right Hon . Friend and the Noble Lord opposite had consented to the motion he had put upon the paper being taken before other public business , he begged uow to move it . He could assure the Hon . and Learned Member for Cork that he would have resigned his own motion in favour of the motion of that Hon . and Learned Member , had he thought the latter would have been as likely to receive the approbation of the House . He made the motioK upon the ground that Mr . Smith O'Brien had been now in prison for twenty-five days , and that tlie business of the committee for which Mr . O'Brien had been
selected , was nearly over . He had adopted the iorm he had found in the journals as having been used on former occasions , without any alteration . He begged merely to add , that he made this motion without the approval of Mr . O'Brien ; but the House ought to decide the motion upon the merits of the question itself without reference to the particular views of that gentleman . He begged therefore to move , "That W . S . O'Brien , Esq ., in custody of the Sergeant-at-Arms attending this House , be discharged out of custody , paying his fees . " Mr . nEKLET said , that as chairman of the committee to which Mr . O'Brien had been selected , he was able to confirm the statement of the Hon . and Learned Member for the University of Dublin , tkat
the business of the committee was almost over . Two hour ' s work to-morrow would finish their labours , lie was glad , therefore , to be able to second the motion of the Hon . and Learned Member , and , at the same time , to assure the House that the public convenience had suffered nothing from the absence ot the non . Member . ( Hear , hear , and laughter . ) As chairman of the committee he could not , however , but regret , that the Hon . Member should have preferred his own company for twenty-four hours a day then theirs for four . ( Laughter . ) He begged to second the motion . ( Hear , hear . ) Mr . P . S . Butler , on behalf ot his Hon . Friend the Member for Limerick , would not oppose the motion , but he objected to the conclusion of it , by
which his Hon . Friend would be compelled to pay the fees incidental to his confinement . His Hon . Friend would not positively refuse to pay the fees , but he had intimated his determination to pay them under protest . ( Hear , hear , and a laugh . ) Sir R . Peel thought it would be wise to confine their attention to tho simple question of whether the authority of the House demanded the continuance of Mr . O'Brien ' s confinement . He had willingly given precedence to his Hon . and ^ Learned Friend for the production of his motion , in order to raise that question—whether it was necessary for the maintenance ef their authority to continue the
confinement of that gentleman . Upon that question lie had no hesitation Jn expressing his opinion that the continued confinement was no longer necessary—( Hear , hear )—and he entertained that opinion without reference to the recent auspicious event . ( Loud laughter . ) The authority of the house had been maintained , and the question set at rest that Irish members were liable to serve upon committes , both upon English and Scotch Bills . ( Hear , hear . ) This effect heaving been produced , the house , which had with regret felt it its duty to confine Mr , O'Brien , would he was sure consent to the motion . ( Hear , hear . )
The motion was then carried without a dissentient voice , and in a lew minutes afterwards Mr , 5 , O'Brien walked into the house , and took his scat . After a short discussion in which Lord J . Russkli urged the necessity of proceeding with the Iriish measures in preference to taking up the miscellaneous estimates Which , stood for that evening , and intimated his intention of voting against the second reading of the Coercion Bill , the house resolved into a com raittee of supply , and sat till a quarter past 12 o ' clock HOUSE OF LORDS . — Tuesday , Mat 28 . Their Lordships met at five o ' clock . CORN IMPORTATION BILL-ADJOVRNED DEBATE . The adjourned debate was resumed by The Earl of Wilton , who stated that he had for many years supported the principles which had actuated her Majesty ' s government , and ho deeply regretted the painful necessity which now compelled him to oppose the present measure . He cautioned their lordships against voting upon so important a measure upon grounds of expediency , and urged them to exert the legitimate power with which tho Constitution had invested them for the protection of the Monarchy and the Church .
• ihe Duke of Cambridge deemed it a duty to himseltand to his own character to state the course lie meant to take upon this very important question . He bad been a member of the House of Peers for forty-five years , and he had made it an invariable rule never to vote in opposition to the government but if he could not vote , with the government , not to vote at all . Tt was painful to him not to bo able to vote with them upon this question , but his own character was at stake . Having a high opinion of Sir . R . Peel , he had attended the late debate in the House of Commons , in hopes that he should be convinced by him ; but the reasons lie gave had worked no conviction in his mind , lie was no politician ; he wished to act honestly and fairiy towards ( lie
country . He regretted that this question should havo been brought forward at all , less for the question itself than for what might be the consequences of it . Feeling as he did , he could not support her Majesty ' s government upon this occasion . Lord Geasvillh , in a short maiden speech , supported the bill , and was followed by The Marquis of Normanby , who commenced his speech by vindicating the party with whom he acted from the implied censure of Lord Brougham for not disclaiming » community of sentiment with Lord Stanley in his strictures upon Sir Robert Peel , whose inconsistency regarding this question the noble Marquis made the subject of severe comment With regard to the sabjeei before them , Iris own opinions were somewhat peculiar , Jbicause lie did not
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- I I - ~ M- believe that the " effects of the me » Bure , either pr good or for evil , would be so great as those which the conflicting parties would lead them to expect . Ue had always voted in Parliament fov a gradual and generalapplication of the principles or free trade , Be rejoiced in every relaxation of the Tariff which would tend to an amicable - settlement of our relations with foreign countries , and which woul d boBefattne various interests of this ' country ; But he had never thoughtihat corn ought to be excep ted from tne class of general commodities , and that a taxation upon its import ought to be made the subject ot peculiar indignation . ( Hear , hear , hear . ) These being his opinion he owned he felt it to be a duty _ to aadress their Lordships , in order to guard against wfiat he thought was one of the Greatest evils to be apprel-i :,, ™ *> , „* * \>* . viiL *« Jr * i , measure , either or
hended from this measure—he alluded to the exaggerations that had been put forth < w to iu effects uwn the condition of , the working clauses , as he mas sattsjM that much , but not less certain disappointment , wowa result from the general exaggeration . Still he thought ihat upon the wholeihe balance of the measure was for good , as it would tend in a certain degree to diminish that misery under which a large portion of our fellow-subjectgiaooured . He did not mean that misery which was and must be the lot of all who laboured ; but he felt Utat tliere was a large , portion of their fellow subjects who were sunk iii a degree ofdtgradatim , which , especially when contrasted with the wealth ofether portionsofsoeiety , was neithersafe nor creditable to the state . ( Hear , hear . ) His attention had been painfully directed to this subject during the
two years that ho had administered the internal affairs ot this country ; and his examination of this subject , while it did not convince him that an alteration of the present Corn Law was not desirable , at any rate diminished his notions of its importance , as if its repeal would of itself mitigate ihe evil . ^ The great authority on this , aa on all such subjects , Adam Smith , stated in his work , that an ample reward for labour was the great proof of the prosperity of a state —that scarcity of remuneration was a proof of its being in a stationary condition , and that starvation was a sure proof that the country was going backwards . He farther Stated ., in reference to the condition of the working classes of liis own time , that tiny had more than sufficient to enable them to tducate with satisfaction and comfort' their several families .
He also stated , that Here was at that time emitting a Corn Law , which amounted to an almost positive exclusion of grain . What use did he ( Lord . Normanby ) make of that ? He did not mean to say that the favourable condition of the working c \ a § ses . qit ; that time was produced by the . Com . Xaw . then existing ; but rather , that as they would not say the condition of that class was as favourable now as it . was then , lie wished to direct their Lordships' attention to the causes which had occasioned it . Whatever might be the mighty good—and no one felt more than he did that the syseem would be for good—whatever might be Hie mighty good which the wonderful invention of machinery wouldproduce , he had no doubt that they had already produced a considerable change in the condition of the labour market . Do not let their
Lordships suppose for a minute that he was such an antediluvian as to wish that machiner y had not been invented ; but he did think that the government of the country ought to have watched the necessary evils that were produced by the transition state ; and so far he went with his noble friend wha addressed them last night , that there ought not to be any attempt on the ] part of government to force these manufactures to a premature developement . What were the first effects of this great demand for labour in one portion of the country ? Why , that there had been a large migration of unskilled labour from the other portion of the country . In point of fact , skill and strength were no longer required in the manufacture of our principal national fabrics ; and the very use of the word manufacture was , to a certain
extent , an abuse of terms . They were-not made by the hands of skilful workmen , and therefore the demand for labour from the other parts of the country was for cheap and unskilled labour—that was the rule , and labour of a more complicated kind , and bearing a higher value , was the exception . Then , this effect of the migration of labourers from one part of the country to the other , had been to give to the owners of dn'elling-houses in the manufacturing districts what might be called a monopoly of price . In the report on the sanatory condition of the people , which was drawn up by Mr . Chadwick , it was stated that in Rutland the rent ot a cottage was 50 a ., while for a very inferior apartment in Manchester , a rent was demanded of £ 1 103 . He only used this . to show that there were other remedies which ought to be
applied to the condition of the working classes ; and that the government ought to have directed their attention several years ago to the influence which these dwellings for instance exercised upon their condition . But it was not : merely with relation to the question of re » t . Look , also , at the question of disease . He wished to consider the matter only in an economic point of view ; bnt he found that in the last report of the sanatory commissioners , that the cost of preventable diseases in Manchester amounted to £ 300 , 000 a year . Taking the population of Manchester amounted to at 300 , 000 , that amounted to the cost of £ 1 per head , and this must press much more severely than that upon the working classes , because their Lordships all knew that the othev classes were , in a great measure ,
exempt from this species of disease ; therefore he said , that thelabouring classes had a differency of 51 . a year in thecost of their dwellings , and II . a year on the cost of preventable diseases , over and above what they would have to pay if they lived in the country , but to which no remedy had yet been applied . They now heard a great deal about cheap bread ; that was a cry which had at all times been warmly responded to . But let thi m examine the cost to the labouring man of another necessary of life—he meant water . It appeared in evidence that the cost ol' water to a Tvorking man in Nottingham , reckoning trouble and time in procuring it , was about tkree-pence-halfpenny a week . By recent improvements in that town , seventy-nine gallons was given for the same price that formerly procured only time , gallons . Now , let them
contrast that with the price which was to be given for bread . The amount of corn which was consumed by a labouring man and his family will roughly , but he believed not unfairly , be estimated at aquarter a head . Now suppose that there had been a fixed duty imposed of eight shillings per quarter , that would liave raised the price of food to the Idbouraigitoan of lid . per week , even if the consumer paid the whole of that duty ; though Mr . Senior , in the report on the condition of the hand-loom weavers , gave it as Ms opinion that only Is . 6 d . of that duty tvould fall upon the consumer . Now he did not say that it was not desirable to increase the comforts of the working men , even by this small amount ; but he wished to show that if the present government were inclined to benefit tlie working men , these reports had b . een lying before them lor three or four years , and they had
every opportunity to introduce those improvements , which might have been effected without a rupture of partieB—without a division of sentiment—without any reproach , whether well op ill deserved ; but which would have led to a more immediate and direct saving to the poor man thanwoiddbe effected by this measure . ( Hear , hear . ) To turn for a moment to what had been stated by his noble friend ( Stanley ) jast night . Pie had read the opinion of Mr . Gregg , who was an extensive manufacturer , and also a member of the Anti-Corn Law League , who had given a melancholy account of the prospects of the manufacturers of this country , and who stated that foreign countries were yearly increasing their power of underselling British manufacturers . Now ho had taken creat pains to make inquiries upon this subject , last
autumn—not that his opinion , being a mere casual traveller . ) WOUlU « t' itself be worth much—but he did make inquiries upon this subject , and he ibund that Mr . Gregg ' s apprehensions , to a certain extent , were right —( Hear , hear , )—but his informant gave a different reason for this than Mr . Gregg did . It wa 3 not , as Mr . Gregg aaid , that foreigners could undersell us ; but it was that they could sell as cheap , and while they sold as cheap , they took more pains with tlie articles they produced , as that their clours and thoir textures w ere more adapted to please . ( Cheers . ) Now , he mentioned this in the uimoafc kindness to the manufacturer ; because , if Mr . ' Gregg gave ihe true reasons these things might be beyond a remedy ; whereas , if it could be remedied— as , according to his information it could—then it would be highly
desirable that that gentleman and his colleagues should apply that ingenuity which they had of late been employing exclusively in tencliing the agriculturists how to improve the condition of the soil—( cheers)—to the improvement of their own manufacturers . ( Continued cheering . ) Tliere was one Other observation which he was tempted to make . Some persons attempted to aecount for the inferiority of the workmen of this country , in articles of taste , to their want of education . Now , he had a strong opinion upon a question which had lately been agitating the Legislature , and lie would say that such an objection came ivith a very ill gran ft'Ointhost who had constantly opposed tin shottening of the hours of labour , ivhich ahne , in his opinion , was likely to improve the education of the labouring classes . ( Hear , hear . ) There was still another consideration on whioh he felt bound to touch . In the Ust census of the population it was stated , that such was the improvement of medical science , in the country , that
the averaged value ot life had increased ; but , at the same time , it was stated , that in the manufacturing districts it had fearfully diminished . Nay , he was not sure , for he must apologise to their lordships lor speaking from recollection , but he oeiieved lie was understating the case when he said , thatthedeterioration of life in these districts had been so great , that whereas the average value of life in these districts twenty years ago was fifty , it was now only forty-five , ( Hear , Jiear . ) lie frequently had seen the first generation of manufacturing operatives , but he hod not seen the second , and ilierc was no doubt whatever but they were very much deteriorated in that respect . With respect to the Bill More their Lordships , ihe government had unnecessarily aggravated the difficulty ot a peaceable and quiet settlement of this question , and accompanied it by a waste of character which was a great public evil . This bill had come up to tliejr Lvi'dsh ' w ' s sanctioned by a great majority
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oft ne representatives of the people , and he believec it was a move in the right direction ; and though il might have been purchased at a large price by th « suicidal sacrifice « f public character , their Lordship ' s were no parties to this sacrifice ; they had betrayed no constituencies , and believing it to be a-measure from which benefit might arise , whilst great evil would result from its rejection , he should vote for the second reading ef the bill . The Earls of Cardigan and Wincheisba spoke of 6 na representatives of the people , and he believed
against the bill , and abused the Government . Tho JSarl of CiiRUNDON rejoiced at the introduction of this measure , and at the justice of the arguments by which it had been defended during the long and wearisome ordeal it had passed through elsewhere . He urged their Lordships to pass a measure which would remove a constant and fertile source of discontent , and benefit all classes , founded aa it wa » upon a great and comprehensive view of the varying circumstances and complicated interests of this great country .
The Earl of Carnarvon opposed the bill , insisting upon the absence of any necessity for the repeal of the existing law , and disputing the doctrine that British industry needed no protection In . its competition with the industry of foreign nations . He contended that the wages of the agricultural labourer would be forced down by this measure to the very lowest level , and that the poor farmer—the occupier with little capital—would be ruined . The Earl of Maimesburt , after a short contest for precedence with Lord Haddinoiok , also opposed the And was followed by the .
Earl of Dadmngton , who defended it . The noble Earl declared he should witness with great alarm the throwing out of this bill , because he was persuaded a new Parliament would bring an overwhelming majority in favour of free _ trade , and their iiordships would lose the opportunity of a graceful concession to public feeling . The Earl of Habdwicke addressed the House against the bill . He eoniriderrd the party with whom he acted were protecting the poor men against the overbearing influence of the manufacturers ; and he
quoted an American newspaper to show that the principle of protection was considered in that country as essentially democratical , and that its abolition would inflict injury upon the lower classes . The noble Earl pointed out how much , under a protective system , the country had prospered in agriculture , commerce , shipping , and revenue , which , notwithstanding a reduction of taxation , had kept pace with the national expenditure ; whilst . the people had had ' cheaper bread "than" they would have under free trade .
The Earl of Wicklow then moved the adjournment of the debate till Thursday next . Earl Grey- moved simply that the debate be adjourned . ; ' \ '' ; . ¦ -.- ' i '» . < ¦ : ' ¦¦ : ¦ . , An animated conversation then took place on tho question of adjournment , the Earl of Wicldow contending that he had moved his adjournment firsi ; , and stating that he would take the sense of the house upon it ; and Earl Grey urgingtheir lordships strongly to continue it on ( Wednesday , ) as adjourning till Thursday would , if It was not then concluded , throw the question over the holidays . He protested against allowing mere amusement to defer the debate on so important a subject . The Duke of Wellington was willing either to sit on Wednesday , or resume the debate on Thursday . After nearly half an hour ' s warm discussion of this point , the debate , was adjourned till Thursday , and the House rose at tivo o ' clock .
HOUSE OF COMMONS . — Wedkesdat , May 26 . A quantity of railway business was transacted . ' Mr . Smith O'Bhibn gave notice of a motion for the production of the letter written by himself to the Speaker , protesting against his recent imprisonment . Mr . Ewart rose to move two resolutions—one declaratory of the expediency of discontinuing the present system of making .-the colony of Van Dieman ' s Land a general receptacle for convicts ; and the other declaratory of the expediency of no longer maintaining transportation except as a supplement to the previous punishment of imprisonment . He was proceeding to make a statement explanatory of the grounds of his motion , when An hon . member moved that the house be counted ; a » d there being only 27 members present , the house stood adjourned .
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: SHEFFIELD . The council met in their room , Fig Tree Lane , on Sunday Evening , Mr . Birkenshaw iu the chair . After the confirmation of the minutes , the address of the executive was read , which gave great satisfaction . On tho motion of Mr . Cavill , seconded by Mr . Goodlad , the following resolution . was unanimously agreed to : — That the ceuncil of the National Charter Association do tender our undivided thanks to tho Executive for their sensible and manly address , and further , that we pledge ourselves to the carrying out of the same . It waa moved by Mr , Goodlad , and seconded by Mr . Marshall , — That we form a Chartist Sick and Benevolent Fund , in rder to provide for poor sick members belonging to the Chartist body . .
After the enrolment of h number of Rarses for the above object , the meeting adjourned . We have got a large quantity of Mr . Ward ' s famous , or rather infamous , Speech on the Factory Bill struck off ; with Mr . 'Wakley ' s reply to it . Mr . Briggs and several other friends have agreed to stand , in the market place and all public thoroughfares , and dispose of them for one half-penny each . We have transmitted our petition against the Irish Coercion Bill to Mr . Dunconibe , with 5160 signatures .
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MANSION HOUSE . A ( Jang of MiscBEANTS . —On Wednesday , Margaret Glymi , the poov girl who was falsely charged with numerous robberies , by Beiniet , his daughter Maria , and his nephew , who sometimes passed as Thomas Spencer , and sometimes as Thomas Sharpe , was brought before Alderman Gibbs , from the Compter , to which place she was sent as a voluntary-inmate . —Alderman Gibbs asked whether any of the parties who had fovmci'Iy appeared against the young woman were in attendance {—Inspector Fosbery said , that not one of them was present . — Sergeant Folger ( No . 69 , City police ) stated to tiie Alderman that he had ascertained that Bennet and his wife , and'daughter and nephew , belonged to an organised ganK oi swindled , whu li . id boon plundering extensively in all parts of the metropolis , as Margaret CHynn liad described . A sergeant of the metropolitan police was present , who had been Ions watching their-movements , and
who could , if the Alderman considered it necessary , enter into a variety of details . —Alderman Gibbs said that a brief outline would only be required at the present moment . —Sergeant Dubois , H N , of the metropolitan police , stepped forward , and stated that to his positive knowledge IJeimet and his wife , daughter and uejjhew , were part and parcel of a gang consisting of upwards of fifty persons , who had been for a length of time living- upon tlie public . As tho young female had correctly roprc . sented they obtained goods upon the strength of false reference to beer-shops , green-grocers' shops , and . other places , for apparent business having been taken by members of the gang in different parts of the town , as blinds for their operations . The moment promised payments were to be made , the whole face of things became changed—neither principles nor referees were to be found , and tlie goods and the names and addresses of the parties disappeared altogether . lie ( Sergeant Dubois ) hail himself taken from time to timtnentv of the
e - gang into custody , all of whom lie lcucwlivcu upon swindling and thieving . Eight or nine of them had been committed for trial to Newgate , and four or six bad been transported . —Alderman Gibbs : Do you know that Bennet . keeps a house of infamous character I—Sergeant Dubois : Curtiiinly I do , and 1 know that his wife attends to it . The unfortunate girl could not have got amongst a move infamous set , and it was most fortunate for her to have been charged by them with robbing , for the exposure must nut only . g ive a check to some other plans , but will save her from any further connection with them . I know beyond a dOUbt that She was trepanned into Bonnet ' s brothel by Spencer . I have followed tip the inquiry into tlie transactions in lvhich tlie . v hare been engaged , and I know that nothing that could have been worse . —Alderman Gibbs : The girl says thnt Sharpe or Spjncei- has been in prison for thieving . Do you know anything of his committal ?—Sergeant Ilubois : I know that lie was committed to Maidstone Gaol for twelve months for picking pockets in tlie uame of Walker . He frequently used to work with a m « n of the name of Jblm Scott , a notorious swindler , in picking pockets . Su-ott has opened several beer-shops and
chandler ' s shi . ps for the purpose ol references , liharpe resides in Hyde-place , lioxton , and Spencer , besides his counting-house in Oxford-street , Cannon-street , has a house at No . 52 , Duke-street , Aldgate , to which his wife attends . —Alderman Gibbs , after having had a private communication with Sergeant Dubois , said to the young woman , "You see into what dreadful hands you have been thrown . "—Margnret Glynii : I do , my lord ; I am thankful that I have escaped—And you are anxious to go to your mother?— -MttY'gaVOl Glyutt ! Yds nud She Will gladly receive me . —Alderman Gibbs ; I do not know that 1 can do anything better for you than send you to your mother i and this officer has kindly promised to see you safe under her care . —Sergeant Dubois said he was con . vJnced tlie gang would do all iu their power to get hold of ha- ngsiin . Ho was iiuito sure that several of them wove in the neighbourhood of the Mansion-house at that mo ment . lie should take care to protect her to the utmost extent of his ability . —Alderman Gibbs desired the girl to give any of the persons she dreaded into the custody of the poliee , if she or her mother saw there was anything to be apnydiciuieil from them . He then put into her hands a tovoreign , which had been loft for Iwr by a friend of liis , and which she gratefully received .
GUILDHALL . Charge of JIurdek . —On Saturday , Joseph Carter , a iourneyniau shoemnkcr , lodging ia Moorfields , was lu-Mii'bt ii » for it eeuond examination , on the charge of having murdered John Ody . a man working : tit thn same trade , on Tuesday last . —Mr . Mcinmmt , the house-surgeon at Bartholomew ' s Hospital , was the first witness , who deposed that the unfortunate man was in-oiight to the hospital at twelve o ' clock on Tuesday night , with two wounds in the . abdomen , from which wounds Jiu died , rrtc ^ njight have been effected Lv such a knife as that produced . —Thomas Itigby , of No . 4 , lley nold ' s-court , Type-street , Jlooriields , deposed that hu lodged with the prisoner , who came home on Tuesday night , and after rummaging his drawer he took out a knife , and witness usUed him what he was goiji" to d < v when lie replied that it was no business of witues ' s
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: : ,.: „ ,. ., . „ . —_ 4 ( and he then . went ^ out as he was getting up to « ht » him in . The knife now produced * is iAat i « x « jfi 8 a forepart knife . — James ; . Shaw , a . shoemaker siiri he was drinking with the ,, deceased , when a ' chat fing arose between him and the prisoner , when , after " a time , the prisoner stamped his foot , and said as h « weut out , " I will fetch something that will do forhim " » and ran off in the direction of his lodging . , He returned in a few minutes , and putting his head into the room beckoned Ody out of the rooin , and when he went the prisoner immediately struck him with the knife in the &b . dvmen . —T . Doby Court was present wheirthe murderous affair occurred , and heard the deceased say he would not allow the prisoner to drink out of his pot , aud called him a sponging fellow , and said he must work for his living as andha theiv ^ . went :. out as . he wm getUne ud < o sh «
he did . He furthermore corroborated the last witness ' s testimony . —Daniel Blny , a city policeman was on dul y , and heard the prisoner say with an oath as he passed him ou liis way for his knife , " I'll do for you . " The prisoner was then committed to Newgate for trial . The AteitRiiNG Max . —Joseph Mortimer , TJie Irishman who deceived a woman by counterfeiting an American mercluint . for the purpose ofmurrjingher , tlie particulars of whose case appeared in the Star of last week was brought up again before the sitting magistrate , ' wheii the following additional evidence was- adduced—A young woman named llowbottom said she Lad advertised for a situation to attend oh an elderly lady or gentleman , when she received the following answer ^— > f - " Canterbury , April 16 , 18 < £ .,
"Madam , —If you have no obgection to ehnngeyoui ; situation in life 1 should be happey to communicate with yon on the subject , i . am Iroiu Uew York , i am a widower , have one daughter 9 years old , and i am a merchant aud du busines for the lastlo years at 191 Chatim Scjuare , New Yorit . I ; im well awerc this is not the usual mode of addressing aLadey on ther fcubjject , but ! know ho one hardley in London , and my' time is very short here , and my wish ia to have a wife that I may love and be kind to . Vxay ancer this to J . SI . post office , Canterbury ' , * and it will be attendit to , and be assured this is no hoax . H you permit me to call ; t will be more satisfactory than , anj correspondence . I ain 3 G years of age . 1 ¦¦ , - •" ¦ ¦ ¦ "J- M . " I will du my best to be a goed husbant iff we make a union of it . " .- ¦• ' To this she made ' a reply , which she handed up to the magistrate , but begged it might not be read . It was said to be creditable to in * discretion and good sensd ; He wrote agaiu as follows : — Canterbury , April 19 .
"My dearest Miss—Tour letter of the 18 thcauie . tbniy hand this forenoon , and i am pleasde with the hole of , it » and i Will if speared be in London on Thursdny : and-my deari wi « caii and-have an intei'view , and i pray it may Lefor both our good iff a union takes place : I . wUtwhen 1 get mea wife , be kind and loving to her , aud doo all in my power to make her happey and comlortobel . . lto »«« w imane , aud tl . ey are fockes , assi mane nothing . Hut bon . our bri"ht . I have three brothers and two sisters all in . themerkentile line in Now York and Brooklyn . I du owen ' 1 , 500 akers of Ian in the States , all pade for . : ^ ne then called at her house , and tried to induce her td think he was a man of property , but he did not get any thing for his trouble . Several other young . women came foi-ward to make similar statements , but Alderman Gibbs told them that it would be useless to hear them unless U 6 had received their money ; He was then remanded for a . week , and tlie police received instructions to make turther inquiries . . __ . ¦ ¦ ¦ '¦
"WESTMINSTER . . ; •• A Female CoiNEE .-On Atonday Louise Buptjste , a youug woman , was fin ally , eiammed , charged with com . ing . On the ( ith iusfc , Inipec ^ Penny , ^ aowmimnwd iw a large party oilhe poKce ^ itaeeded toNew . court , Mucfc laue , where , ufterihavingforced ' open it room-dpor on the Second floor , Which w ^ istibr gly bai ^ caded , ' theyrdaseovered the prisoner staafling b ? foie a : clear hre Wth * M 1 » of metal in one hand , , and a plaster ot ; ft » ns niouW m » iu tlie other . When t ' Je . 'officers rushed towards her , she took a counterfeit half-cWwn from the mantel-piece ,, and threw it into the ladle , but it was immediately extracted , and She also endeavoured to destroy the mould bj placing it on the ground and stamping uponit . Lxio ga . vanic battepies , which appeared to have been recently used , files , and other implements necessary tor coining . were found in the room . After she had been locked up for about au hour , she complained of being very unwell , and oil a surgeon having been sent for . she admitted that in her confusion at tiie time of the officers' entt-itiieo , she had thrown a half-crown into her mouth , winch had lodged in her throat . It was found impossible to extract it , and it was forced downwards .-The prisoner was committed for trial .
HAMMERSMITH . The Self-accused IIobber A . sd MuBDEBEli . —Monday being the day appointed for the second examination of Henry Uorman , the self-accused robber aud murderer , who stands charged with having stolen the sum ot io -, the property of Jlr . 'Willjani Hoof , builder , & ( . ' ., Aladeley House , Kensington ' : and also ou suspicion of having been concerned in the murder of Mr .-Uobevt Wtstwoud , the watchmaker , in Princes-street , Soho , on the Svd ot June , 1839 . the Court was , from its ' opening , crowded almost to suffocation . On the prisoner being placed at the bar . SIv . JEdwai-d Apps Smith , chief clerk to Mr . Hoof , repeated the evidencehe gave at the first examination on the previ , ous Monday . William Smullboue , unothci clei'k in Mr .
Hoof ' s service , deposed to having been present when the bag coutainitg the money was given to the prisoner by the last witness , with directions to take it to the gas-works , in the King ' s-road , Jb ' ulham . The prisoner , on leaving tlie office , shook the bag , ami , in a jocular manner , said , " This is a . nice lot to Uioot witll . " The prisoner on hearing that statement smiled . George Arnold , Mr . Hoof's foremau at the gas-works ,. deposeil that the prisoner , on the day in question , did not bring any money to witness , neither did he come to the works and pay any of the men . Witness saw the prisoner on the lb'th of April , between ten and eleven o ' clock in the forenoon , in tho office at Kensington , but never saw him afterwards until he saw him in custody on the previous Monday at that Court . received
Inspector Havel ) , T division , deposed to having information of " the ! robbery from Mr . Hoof on the day ot the prisoner' absconding , every search being made after him without success , until last Thursday week , when information wa ' s'Aceivcd that a person answering the pn . souer ' s descriptiou was . in custody % t Liverpool On tin next day ( Friday ) witness proceeded to Liverpool , and on Saturday nioruiug saw the prisoner in the goal of that tOlViti Where he was identified by one of Mr . Hoof ' s clerks Witness then took Win to the police ( station in that towiij where he searched the prisoner , and found on him the sum of £ i 12 s . fid . in gold and silver moneys , Witness . then asked where he lodged , when he told witness at No . . . 89 , Pitt-street , Liverpool . Witness went to ; that , dir <; ctiou ,. but found he had given a wrong address , no such . persoh being there . Witness , however , traced that th ' e ' . ' prisouer h : « been lodging at No . 60 , in l'ilt street , and on going'tliCl'a the landlady gave witness a carpet travelling ua ^ y which sue said had been brought there by the prisoner , whom she had not seen since ; the previous Tuesday , which ^ ras . the It iocKe
day the prisoner was taken into custody . was . u , and on opening it ho found in . it £ 2 t ) in Boverigns and halfsovereigns . Witness had previously asked' the prisoner . ) he had anv money left , when he told witness tlfat-he had £ 20 iu his carpet bag : Witness ' alsofound various articles of wearing apparel , belongingito the prisoner ,: aud _ some papers , consisting- of a tragedy , < fcc . < fce . The prisoner w :. s the same day taken before Jlr . G . Itushton , the sitting nwistrate at the Liverpool Police-office , who directed "ie prisoner to be handed over to witness ' s custody , and witness brought the prisoner to tows , and from thence to tho station-house at Kensington . Inspector Roger , 'of the L division , who had had the prisoner iu custody subsequent to his return from Jamacia , on u charge of steaiiug a gold watch from his lodgiugs in the Haymarket , was in attendance if he was required . . Mi , Olive then asked the prisonerif he wished to say anything ' in answer to the charge , 'l'he prisoner very coolly replied—Jfo , I shall say nothing at present . Sir . Olive told him he was then fully- committud to Suwgate for trial . ,.- •¦ - ¦ ,
HOW STREET . ; Jfu . MKBous Railway Uobbeiuks , —On Tuesday , John Farr was examined and committed , charged with having stolen a white deal bos , containing a variety . . articles , the property of ih-. Joseph Woodhead , of Montague-square , Ulld Mary Ann Kewhmd , with receiving the .-ame , well knowing- them to have been stolen . The itmaW prisoivei ! n-ns charged with receiving a ease containing . engineering implements , the property of Dr . Evans , " a passenger , wdl knowing it to have been stolen . The prosecutor , ou Good Friday , last , engaged a place in the London and Uirmiugliam llailway train , ' iiudhiiviiig left the property imiuesiion for a moment on the seat , till ho saw his luggage safely
deposited , he discovered on his return it had -been stolen . Tlie evidence of finding theproperty at theprisoner ' s house So . 1 C 3 . Sloane-street , being repeated , the prisoner whs committed . Mr . ilathew Bluekiston , an engineer , residing at TrafiklgaV-squuro , stated , that he also Wi \ 5 travelling oa Good Friday by the mail train , and left tho En ' ston-squaw station about a quarter before nine o ' clock , having tho case of engineering implements ,. containing . a variety ot documents produced , iu his possession . He left it on tufl platform , tv which « t drew the attention of the porter , awl on arriving at Birmingham lie missed it , nor did he again see it , uutil it , was in the possession ot the onicers , I" * - ' property having been j roved by the officersto have btsn found in Sloaut-street , she was again commuted . 1
WOKSllUSTUEET . GllAUGE QrEMHESSKl'EMEST . —On Tuesday , Henry Sliaw , recently a . ^ collecting clerk in the service ot' ile » Sl'S . Gauunau ami Co ., wholesale glass-inaiuufiictiu'ers at fiirlniughain , was brought up for final examination , charged with having embezzled numerous large sums of money uelouginj ; to his employers , ilmouutitu ; in the aggregate to nearly £ i ) QQ . Mr . " iViUiani Writterick , a -china ami gfas dealer in Lisson-grove , proved the payment , to UlC pi'iS 011 i ! C on account of liis employers , ofjho respective sums vi " -- ^ 7 s ., and £ 5 * 186 " , on the i 3 rd of June and 3 lst July , iSw > and produced his receipts for those amounts , il r . ilenry Wileuian , of IrouButc-ivluu-f , J . ' a < ldingtoii ; deposed to IiaJ ' - iust the prisoner on the Sth of December , mo , tin- sum «* 17 th keo
Hbl ' is ., and the further sum of A ' iH us ., on the - riuiry last , for goods supplied bim by the . proseenwfS . Mr . O . W . Aldridge , pi Falcon-square , and Air . . llobert Berry , a glass dealer , in tlie City-road , ' proved haviug yM the prisoiK-r the several sums of £ » S ls . Gd ., £ 10 £ 15 15 s . ud ., £ li os ., on uueont of his employers . Jlr . ThouuS Gannuau , principle partuer in the prosecutor ' s linn , stated that it was the prisoner ' s duty to solicit orders a » J collect debts on their behali" in town , aud immediately to transmit to Birmingham whatever moneys he received ; but that neither of the payments above mentioned liinj been at all accounted for . The depositions in the severo cases were then taken by Mr . Johnston ? , ' the second ulerh and the prisoner was fully committed for trial .
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Walter M'Dowall , Pemberton-row , Cough-square , City , printer—John Edward ttnuou , tterniouus . ey < tQuurC i Bwmondscy , leather factor — Robert Dallinger Mai'klia »"/ Edmonton , boarding-housekeeper—Alexander iieattie i BlJ Francis Alacuaughteu , Nicholas-lane , Lombard-street , merchants — William White , llovpeth-street , In-tluinijjreeu , builder—John Berry , Chuvch-Street , Pud < UttS' « » di'unuv—Alexander Thorn , High Holbovn , oilman-- ^"" * Perry , llarlow . Essex , grocer—Mury Armistcail , w- «» ford ' strect , Maryleuone , milliner— Kiciiardaiui Auieu Knight , jun ., Builgcrow , Oily , wholesale stationw * --Andi-ew Valentine Leaman , and William Andrew , - Jon" - sti-eet . Tottenkain-eourt-ivad , timber nierchmits—ltol > e » Howard I ' ukc , Great Yarmouth , innkeeper — Josepn HaviHS , AWermanbury , woollen \ vivvQhousemev \ --Aiii > lUit / itison , VurJiniii , linvmh-aper — Edmouson CoobiWi Liverpool , common brewer—George Jones , Tox . teth-y : U' » i Lancashire , builder—Thomas llitt Harvey , ; Mol ; oi » i'f llegis , Doveetshire , cement merchant — l'eter if >« J ° > Manchester , cotton spinner—James Edwards . Digltf 1 " ' Birmingham , iron founder—William Taylor , Worcester , share broker .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), May 30, 1846, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct1368/page/8/
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