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Ht Deir Frukbs , —Once more we are called apon to 18 % round the old standard and unsullied flag . A most unnatural and anomalous coalition has been formed between the men who coerced Ireland and pledged themselves to resist Repeal to the death , and the man . who lias pledged himself U Ireland never again to place the question of Repeal in abeyance for the convenience of party , bit Tto has , however , not only abandoned the qieslion , but has sought to qualify himself as a fit accomplice of the enemies of Ireland and of littrty ,
by abusing the Chartists in Conciliation Hal ) He has attempted to renew the old bugaboo of p hysical force , in order to rouse a fresh and more rigorous hostility against the principles of ChartJm . He has , in short , handed himself , and those o'er whom he holds contronl , bound neck and heils to _ the serrice of the Whig party . And as if a combination of all that usurp was needed to iold all that are oppressed in subjection , vre fird a compact formed between all classes , all parties , and all shades of the press for the ostensible purpose of supporting any form of goYernment that will resist progress and keep Chartism at bay .
I have now straggled -with yon for many years , and it is my pride and my boasl , despite of the dying League newspaper , its fabricated correspondence , and a profligate press , to be able to declare in the face of opes day and in the teeth of slanderers and renters , that I hare nerer in the whole eourse * f my life , fenown positively one single instance of a Chartist leader receiving other than Chartist money for Chartist purposes . I have heard the rumour , but the crime is only ascribed t » those who have proved themselves to be bad and profligate men , and worse Chartists . Ton are not to expect complete , entire , and unsullied virtue
among so large a mass as that constituting the Chartist body ; whfla yon should feel proud in the fact that tnert is TirftTe enough in the masses , the millions , to scout profligacy , when detected , from our ranks . When was there an instance in this world before , of an individual and a party opposed by the combination which -we have been . opposed by , not only maintaining our ground , but making head and marching onward , as you and I have done ? We have now arrived at an important crisis , at a crisis which , if properly used , may give to Ciwrtism a strength that the most sanguine ' would scarcely dare to anticipate : and the purport of my present
letter is to ask jon whether , iu spite of the leeches who sacked me all bnt dry , the vampires who lived and grew fat upon my kindness , but wonld now sack my blood , —if , in Bpite of them , and all opposing elements , you ' are ^ prepared to go as far to regain roar liberties , your rights and privileges , as-I am prepared to go with yon . There is one fact which I wish you to keep in mind—it is this , that I have spent many years of a healthy life and a large fortune in the ' advocacy of your cause , and that even yet I require neither aid nor compensation from you , further than trial I can derive from a steady adherence to your principles .
The Convention is now about to meet , when weighty aud important m atters will be submitted to its deliberation ! The prominent questions that will be submitted to you will be the mode by which you may insure for the present a more extensive representation of your principles in the House of Commons—the means by which we can insure the conviction that our principles have progressed by showing a larger augmentation of signatures to the next national petition , which should be ready for presentation to the next Parliament , and though last , not least , to strain every inerve for the restoration of Frost , Williams , and Jones .
I have no doubt that by a vigorous effort we could secure the retarnofat least twelve Chartist members , and those , iled on by Duncombe , would insure for cur principles such promulgation through the press as wonld convince the "world that ire were not mere visionary physical force destructives . I Wrote you many letters upon this subject ia 1833 , minutely describing : the machinery for working the plan ; but from that hoar to the present it has remained a dead letter , except when hastily and uselessly called into action upon the very eve of a contest . I could point ont twenty places , for which , by common attention and industry , we might return snct men aa Joaoph Sturge , W . * P . Roberts , Patrick 0 ' Higgles , James Moir , Ernest Jone 3 , and many more that I could mention , who have equal claims upon our support .
Had we but one week ' s notice of the Elections that have recently taken place , we might have secured Nottingham , Halifax , and Plymouth ; or , what is the next beat thing , we might have read ihe Whigs a wholesome lesson , by defeating three officials in these places . I do not say that we could succeed where there is only one seat vacant , but I do contend for it , that of the 658 seats , at a general election , we m % ht very easily possess ourselves of twelve ; and once possessed of tfeat number , our principles wonld hare a mouthpiece in the House of Commons , which hacked by the pressure from without , would carry them triumphantlj through the land .. The very fact
of l » elng prepared with Chartist Candidates , even where we do not mean to stand the contest , ia of the utmost importance . Although I did not secure the representation of Nottingham , and although I do not mean to contest a seat to which I am undcubtedly entitled , yet I have tbe vanity to believe that my speech at the nomination was worth many nights' debate to your cause . It was so valuable , that , with the exception of the Jfcftinhorn Review , not one of the Press gang dared to publish a line of it . That speech is very imperfectly given , even in the - Vor / fiern Star—and even if reported verbatim , tbe reader could form no estimate of the effect upon
thnse who heard it . In order that I may leave you a recent record of my oiiniom , it is my intention to pullish thej Speech , from memory , the Star , and the Xottingham Review , as extensively as possible ; as I & j think it a pity that it should be lost . My realon for not claiming the seat h this , because I should not consider myself honourably elected if I gained my seat by trick or shuffle , by finesse or mistake . A great portion of the strength tliat I communicate to my party , is derived from the fact that I have never descended to meanness in the advocacy of their cause . And I feel that , even if seated , under the cir-Curcstances , that I should be an incomplete and dishonourable representative .
Upon the first opportunity , however , as it appears to be the general wish of the Chartist party , I will endeavour to secure the representation of some free and independent constituency ; and if I do go to Parliament once more , I mast go under the solemn pledge that I will in no wiBe interfere with Mr . Dcscombe , as our leader , bnt will by all the means in my poirer aid him , strengthen him ; and support him . in the battle of right against might . It wonld be impossible to convey to you anything like an adequate idea of the progress that Chartism is making in Hertford-hire , through the aid of the Land plan , and I feel more than ever convinced , that a locality in each county would convert every man in that county to tbe principles of the Land and the Charter . On
Saturday night , after I pay the week ' s expenses , I shall start for Manchester , there to be present at the opening of the People ' s Hall . On Sunday , I Bhall place myself at tbe disposal of the Committee , with * ne single understanding thai the arrangements may be so framed , that I may be able to start by the sight mail at 9 o ' clock on Sunday night , in order to be ready for worKon Monday morning ; as I have to aeet a Mr . Gat , a teetotal lecturer , in discussion Upon the Land plan on Monday night , at Riekmansworth ; so that you see the Land has not diverted me from the Charter , nor the Charter from the Land . To-morrow ( Friday ) lam going to visit two estates of about 320 acres , and I hope by next week to announce the fact , that we have purchased one or both .
On Friday last we were very sporting—we bid - £ 24 , 000 for a splendid domain of 530 acres , which however , was bought in at £ 28 , 000 . We bid that amount , because a large portion of the purchase money would be allowed to remain on mortgage . This IB what the World newspaper calls land jobbing ; but , however , the Editor might have also said , that it evinces no great inclination upon my part to appropriate the funds to my own purposes . I should have published & very flattering account of our finances last week , had it not been necessary to retain the funds in hand , to pay the deposit , had we been declared ths purchasers , and the same reason exists for witbolding the balance sheet this
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weak , as , in the event of ' making a purchase tomorrow , I shall be required to pay the deposit in cash . Perhaps , however , you mSy be pleased to learn , that , besides paying ! for Herringsgate , and besides the expenditure of about £ 1700 up to the present time , wo are still in possession of between £ 7000 and £ 8000 available at a moment ' s notice . Now you are to reeollect that our society differs from all others in this respecfc , that we have no column for sundries , and that we have not paid a shilling for puffing the concern . On Monday evening the 3 rd of August , the evening of the day on which the Conference meets , I snail have much oleasurein accepting ray Bradford friends
invitation to tea , and if the gentlemen of Huddersfield have the slightest desire for a set to upon any other night of the same week , they hava Only to name it andil am their man . In short , during the sitting of the Conference it is my desire to make myself as useful as possible , and then to devote the intervening week to preparing Paradise for the reception of those who shall join in the demonstration . And once more assuring you , my friends , that 1 am not going to lurrender a Whig coalition to Tory despotism , or to sham Chartist whispering and ¦ lander , and announcing that I will give to the whole army of malcontents a field day , where they please , during the meeting of the Convention ,
I remain , Your faithful , your sincere and unpurchaseable frien-1 , Fearous O'Connor . P . S . The Executive and Mr . Ernest Jones will attend the Camp Meeting te bo leld near Rochdale , on Sunday , 2 nd August .
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HOUSE OF LORDS . —Monday , Jolt 13 . The Lord Chancellor took his seat on the wool sack at five o ' clock . Lord Brougham retained his former seat on the Opposition benches , Lord Lyndhurst sat on his right , and the Earl of EUenborough onhis left . Lord Stanley was not in the house . The Duke of Wellington , who was in the house for only a short time , took his seat on tne weolsack by the side of the Chancellor , and spoke from the bishops' beach . The Earl of Dalliousie spoke from the Opposition benches .
The Marquis of Laxsdowse gave notice that on Thursday next , the report of the Bill for granting pensions to Lords Habbinok and Gouoh being brought up , he will move that the Bill be restored to Its original form . The Duke of Richmosd intimated Ms intention to oppose this course , and take the sense of the house on the subject . No business of importance was transacted , and the house adjourned at a quarter past six o'clock . HOUSE OF COMMONS . — Monday , July 13 . The Speaker took the chair shortly before four o ' clock .
NEW MEMBERS . The following members , who have accepted office under the present government , took the oaths and their seats , upon their re-election : — Lord Johx Russell ( First Lord of the Treasury , ) for the City of London . Sir George Grey ( Home Secretary , } for the borough of Devonport . Colonel Fox ( Surveyor of the Ordnance , ) for the Tower Hamlets . SirJ . C . Hobhouse { President of the Boawl of OontrouLJfor the borough of Nottingham . Lord Phmebstos ( Foreign Secretary , ) for the borough of Tiverton . - Mr . Jebyis ( Attorney-General , ) for the city of Chester . Mr . Labouchere ( Secretary for Ireland , ) for the boronjrh of . Tannton .
- AJmii-alDnsnig ( one of the Lords of the Admiralty , for the borough of Greenwich . - ¦•¦ -- ¦ - - — Mr . C . Wood ( Chancellor of the Exchequer , ) for the borough of Halifax-Lord Marcus Him , ( Comptroller of the Household , ) for the borough of Evesham . Captain Bkrkemt ( one of the Lords of the Admiralty , ) for the city of Gloucester .
POSITION OF PARTIES IN THE HOUSE . This being tbe first night of the new Ministry taking their seats in the house , they at once ranged themselves upon the treasury benehes , the protectionists preserving their old position . Lord G . Bentinck , Mr . D'Israeli , Sir * R . H . Inglis , and ether leading members occupied their usual seats . Sir J Graham arrived at half-past four , and , with other members of the late ministry , occupied the Opposition benches , which presented a very scanty attendance of members , as compared with the ministerial side of the house . The house , indeed , has seldom
presented such an anomalous appearance : Mr . Duncombe . Mr . Wakley , and Mr . Collett , the opponents of the late ministry , occupying seats on the same side of the house with the members of Sir R . Peel ' s administration ; and the protectionist party , on the other hand , being below the gangway , on the ministerial side . Manyhon . gentlemen seemed inconsiderable doubt as to the locus they were to assign to themselves , and Col . Sibthorp , in particular , remained for some time , evidently between two opposite impulses . The hon . and gallant member fm Lincoln at length deposited himself on the ministerial side of the house among the protectionists .
BATHS AND WASHHOUSESOnihe motion of Sir G . Grey , this bill was committed pro forma , in order that several amendments might be inserted in it , as several alterations had been suggested .
MEASURES OF THE LATE GOVERNMENT . Public business commenced by Sir James Graham making some observations on three orders of the day , which stood for discussion that evening . The first was the Highways Bill , which stood for the second reading , and of which the princip le had not been affirmed by the house . Looking at the period of tbe session , the length of the bill , and the different opinions entertained respecting it , be thought lit better that he should withdraw it at once and allow it to become a dropped order . The second was tbe Poor Removal Bill , which had been read a second time and committed pro forma . As it
was a . measure of great importance , he did not think it expedient that he , as an individual member of the house , should take charge of it . He therefore proposed to postpone it till Thursday next , when Lord J . Russell would be able to state what course he would take -with respecfc to it .- The third was a measure which had come down from the House of Lords , and Telated to the enlargement of the powers given to the Enclosure Commissioners respecting disputed boundaries . He wished to introduce some clauses into it . and he therefore hoped that the house would allow it to pass it through the committee pro forma . The house would then have an opportunity of subsequently exercising its judgment upon it .
After a short conversation between Mr . V . Smith , Sir J . Graham and Sir G . Grey , the order of the day for the second reading of the Highways Bill was then postponed till this day m months .
POOR REMOVAL BILL . Sir J . Graham then moved , that the Poor Removal Bill be committed . Mr . T . Duxcombe reminded the house that when Sir R . Peel introduced the Customs' Bill and the Corn Importation Bill , he had given a pledge tliat the Highways Bill and this bill should proceed with them paripasm , and that they should both be conducted to a successful issue . On a former occasion , hebaa said that the Poor Removal Bill , which was intended to give relief to the pauper in the locality
where his necessity arose , would be abandoned as soon as " the grand and comprehensive scheme of commercial policy" became Jaw ; but such an idea was scouted almost as an insult by Sir R . 'Ped . Sir J . Graham had already thrown the Highways Bill over somewhat unscrupulously ; and he ( Mr . T . Duncnmbe ) was afraid that Lord J . Russell would also throw this bill over on Thursday next , when he was to state his opinion upon it . What would the operative classes think of Parliament and of public men when they saw the pledges of both thus uncere lnooionsly abandoned ?
Sir J . Graham defended the late Government , and himself as a member of it , from the charge of Mr . ' r p , . " Cl > mbe . that they had been guilty of a breach of faith to the operative classes . This bill had not been thrown over by the late Government ; on the contrary , the late Government had itself been thrown over bj the house . If tbe late Government had now been in power , he should have had no difficulty m proceeding with this bill . Whatever might ? kF-V * - that p , art of it which was intended to establish union settlements , ho was not clear that
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Lord J . Russell would throw over that part which jjave relief in the locality at the moment of destitu tion to the pauper " ' His own opinion was , that the clause establishing irremovability after » cerjjwi ) term of residence , unless it were ; accompanied by tire establishment of union-settlements , would be productive of great hardship , if not of great injustice , in some districts . Be tSat , however , as WMgW , be should ba sony if this session- should bff aJJowetTto close without passing into 1 law the irremovability clause of this bill . . ¦'"•• . ¦ -.
-MINISTERIAL INTENTIONS—BUSINESS OF THE " . SESSIONS . Lord J . Russell observed that after what had just passed , it would perhaps be convenient to- the house if he now stated the intentions of the Government with respect to the Poor Removal Bill ; for that statement would , he trusted , remove the suspicions entertained by "Mr . Duncomber . ' He believed that , if the late government had continued in power , Sir J . Graham would have gone on with bill , not only as it was introduced drieinally into tbe house , but also as it had been amended in the committee , with the union settlement clauses . ' Sir . J . Graham now
proposed to leave the bill in the hands of the present Government ; and in consequence of that proposition he now informed the house , that the present Government was prepared , not only to proceed , with it , ' but also to proceed with it before other measures . He must , however , remind the house that , on giving his vote infavour of Mr ; E . Denis » n ' s ! instruction to the committee , he had declared that he had great doubts as to the propriety of establishing union settlements- On Thursday next , Sir G . Grey would move that this bill be committed , and would then state whether the term af-residence establishing irremovability should be three or five years . With regard to that part of tbe Bill which- established' union settlements , he proposed to strike it out for the present .
and to make inquiry hereafter into the propriety of establishing them . . AJr . Borthwiek bad given notice of a motion for the appointment of a select committee to inquire into : the administration of the Poor Law . Now , if Mr . Borthwiek would defer that notice till the next sesssion , he thoneht that it would be advantageous for the object" which he had in view , ' and that an inquiry might -also ' be . instituted into the operation of the existing law of settlement . At present , he was of opinion that union settlements ought not to be established without further investigation , but , he trusted , that the rest of the bill—he meant that part of it which established irremovability and the right of the pauper to relief in his locality at the moment of destitution—would be
passed m the course of the present session . Having dismissed this subject , he proceeded to observe that as Ministers had only lately accepted office , and as some of them were even yet at a distance , in consequence of the nectssity of their being re-eleted , he did not think it advisable to state at present the measures which the government would either proceed with , or drop , or alter in some of their enactments . He promised to make a statement on that subject on Thursday next . Oa that day lie would also state when he would bring forward the Sugar Duties . He belived that it would be neceBsary to introduce a bill continuing the existing duties fora short period , as fhe measures which he intended to introduce might probably lead to consideraable discussion in that house .
After a few words from Colonel Wood , Mr . "W allet , and Sir J . Pakwotoh , the order of the day for the committee on this bill was postponed till Thursday next . The Chancellor of the Exechkqubr then moved the reading of the order of the oay for the'house resolving itself into a Committee ' of Supply . On the question that the Speaker do how leave the chair , ' ¦ Lord Ikgestre , In pursuance of his notice ^ moved an address to her Majesty , prayjng that she would be graciously pleased to give directions for the investigation of Mr . Warner ' sinventions . - A discussion followed in which Captain Poehell Sir H . Douglas , Mr . Wakley , and Mr . Brotherton , took part . .
The Chancellor of the Exchequer observed that , without pronouncine any opinion on the invention of Mr . Warner , the Government was prepared to ap . point impartial officers , in whose experience they could confide , to investigate their merits . He hoped that Lord Ingestre would be satisfied with this asaunw . _ »» j ^ w- ui . j ,. ii ; motion . Lord Ingestre thanked the Chanceuui ~ v r ~ tW E « - chequer for the spirit in which he had just announced the intention of the Government , and congratulated him upon the circumstance that the first act of Ins administration should be an act of justice . He then consented to have his amendant negatived .
The amendment was negatived accordingly . Mr . W . WiLLiAMsavailedhimselfoftheopportunity to call attention to the increased amount of the estimates now about to be considered . When those estimates were first introduced , the relations of this country and of the United States were of a threatening character , and therefore he had made no objection to them . The state of things was now altered , and therefore the necessity for large estimates no longer existed . Though it was not his intention to offer any opposition to these estimates , he must still call public attention to their increase in comparison with the estimates of former years . He wished Lord J . Russell particularly to remark how much the public expenditure had increased since he last entered
upon office . In 1835 , when Lord Melbourne came into power , the public expenditure was ± 48 , 780 , 000 . Now it was £ 55 , 500 , 000 , showing an increase of £ 6 , 720 , 000 in the interval ; or , in consequence of a reduction in the expenditure of £ 600 . 000 a-year , occasioned by the reduction of the 3 i per Cents ., a real increase of £ 7 , 320 , 000 . He hoped that Government , as soon as it was at leisure , would institute a rigid scrutiny into tlii 9 expenditure , and would effect a great reduction in its amount . The amount " of this increase was greater than the amount of the Property Tax , and also than that of the Malt Tax . If that were so , then one or other of them might beabolished .
He then complained of the increased cost of collecting the revenue . Mr . IIumb reminded Lord J . Russell that one of the first acts of the Government of Earl Grey was the appointment of a committee to revise the salaries of all the officers of state . The inquiry which that committee instituted would have been carried through all the departments , had it not been thought proper that the head of each department should undertake the inquiry , and make the necessary reductions in his own department . He recommended the present Government to undertake a similar revision , and to submit all the miscellaneous estimates , in another pession , to the investigation of a committee of that House .
Dr . Bowhing suggested the adoption of a better system of public accounts . The gross revenue ought to be paid into the Exchequer * for , otherwise large sums of money must inevitably escape from the controul of the House . Lord J . Russell reminded Mr , Williams that the increase in the army , navy , and ordnance estimates of the present year was not entirely owing to the apprehension of a war with , the United States . In reply to a question which he had put to Sir R . Peel , Sir R . Peel bad observed that , though the
apprehension of such a war had not been left out of the account , the increase of our colonies , and the demands of the public service on our naval and military forces were sufficient to account for tliat increase . In that statement he ( Lord J . Russell ) fully concurred . Mr . Hume had spoken of the increase of the miscellaneous estimates , and had expressed a wish to have them referred in another session to a select committee . He was not prepared to say that it might not be advisable to have a committee on the miscellaneous estimates next session ; it was a proper subject for consideration .
Sir R . Lvolis objected to this new mode of transferring the responsibility of framing the estimate ^ from the Executive Government to committees ol the House of Commons . Lortt J . Russell did not propose that a committee should frame the estimates ; he only proposed to refer them , when framed by the government , to a select committee ; and that wae no new practice . Mr . Cabdwem ,, in justice to the late government , reminded the house that within the last twelve months , in the department of the Excise alone a reduction had been made in the expense of collection of £ 52 , 000 and that simply by the suspension of patronage . The house then resolved itself into committee , and the rest of the evening was consumed in the discussion of the miscellaneous estimates .
THE POOR LAW COMMISSIONERS . On the vote for £ 120 , 700 for expenses connected with the administration of the law relating to the poor . Mr . Hume said , he had upon principle supported the Poor Law ; but he had received information of what had appeared before the committee upstairs , which convinced him that the administration of this law had been very much undirected . He thought the commissioners were wholly unfit for their situations ; and he was prepared to submit a motion to the house for tbeir removal , and wa 8 oniy waiting for the evidence being laid upon the table . His opinion was founded upon facts , and therefore to vote any further sums of money to these commissioners he was very unwilling , It was trifling with the great interests of
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I the ^ mihiinity allow those . . commissioners longer I toy continue ' in office , and he suggested to the noble lord to defer a portion of this vote till a future period . [ He was unwilling to atop the allowances and expenses to medical officers ^ and other disbursements ; but he thought : a snm might be taken on account , and that 1 tbe remainder might ; be reserved till the evidence taken Upstairs werelaid upon tie table \ o'f the house . He submitted that they might pass a vote' Jor ] £ 160 . 000 and be should , inwreihaV the , vote beredueies ! to that amoant , taking-that sum on account , " Mr ! WitiuMs seconded the ( pendmeht , T He concurred in the observations of hfe hon . friend . Such evidence had been Brought before the hous during the secaiba as showed the total incapacity of those at head
the ) of the commission . He waa quite convinced thai ibe eot » niry would not endure ihe present sya-I tern , and fle hoped the noble lord wo ' uM consider ihe ! expediencyef acompJeteabange . -: :.- * ¦ ' .- • j- The ; CH ^^ j ^ R " of the ^ CHKijyEB m id that tfte greater part , o ' f , the expenas * hail been'actually ineorred , and tke ^ house would net be precluded by thisvote for a furtaer consideration- of the Poor Law . It was . hardly posaifite , whatever evidence migS * be laid bsfere the liousa ' , that ; at tlife late period of the sftMio ' n , any measiwe could be intjoduced . .. MriHuMB said they mightwMhold' the pay of j the commissionersp every day they . " continued , in ] office he considered it was a great evil to the com-1 mvtu&j ' iy ; ¦¦¦'¦ ¦' ¦•]¦ '¦'¦¦ ¦¦ :- '' ¦ ¦¦'¦ ¦ ' ¦¦¦ ' '¦' ¦''¦ ' ¦¦' ' ¦¦ '¦• ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦¦ ¦¦ -I ^~ Afi ^ aTev '' wbrd 8 fioiD Sir' ^ 'lNqais and Sir Dil . LAcr ;^ r ^ ia ; '"'" ' * , - ' -- ¦ ' ¦ . '•''• " ¦'• ¦ ¦ ' •¦ " ¦¦ ¦ ' ¦ -- ¦ - ¦ J . Mr . W&KLBY ' Baid'tbat the hon . member for Mont-1 |
rose was about to divideihe house upon * iina question * . The house ought to show by its vote its- opinion not only of the commission itself , but of tbe conduct of the commissioners and the manner in which they had exercised their functions . Was there a more effectual mode of doing this than by withholding the par of the parties who had misconducted themselves ? It was in no spirit of ill feeling that he acted ; these gentlemen , he believed , ' * were estimable and . good men but the manner in which they had conducted themselves towards the poor was most unfortunate , if not most cruel . He was not aware of this vote coming before the house to-night , or he would have brought the diet-table of Bromley , in Kent , What did the committee think was the amount of diet for
an able-bodied man ? Why , the allowance of meat for a healthy , vigorous man wa ^ four ounces per week . An ablebodied man , who had committed no offence , was to subsist for seven days upon "four ounces of animal food , thirteen ounces of bread a-day , and one ounce and a half of cheese ., If this vote passed , he would bring down this diet-table to the house . He had considered that the Andover Uniou exhibited a frightful picture ; but at Bromley he found things worse . A guardian jhad informed him that there were eighty-seven poor in the houso , and that forty or forty-seven out of . -the ' eighty-seven were on the sick-list . Such an allowance was next to starvation , and , medically speaking , he said that if n man were kept upon that diet for a year , it must
ultimatel y be fatal to him ; and yet they were voting tbe comraissionera , £ 2 , 000 a-year each tor thus treating the poor—torturing men in order to drive them from the house ! What did the aged and infirm receive ? Fifteen ounces of animal food per week ; yet tbe ablebodied had only four ounces per week and thirteen ounces of bread per diem . Then he said tbe object ofthe commissioners appeared to him to bi the object originally designed ,- —to make the workhouse a place . of misery and torture to : the ablebodied man ]; and though the hon . membar for Montrose and others expected that the effect of the n ) easure would-be to raise wages , the labouring population viewed the workhouse with such horror that they would endure any misery rather than resort to
ib for relief . He had been informed that , in a parish in Dorsetshire , the . men at the hay . liar vest struck for a rise of wages , and had what they asked , namely , 5 s . a-week . What had they before ? Why , only 3 s . 6 d . a-week ; This was at Frampton , in Dorsetshire . This statement had been made by a person resident there to a memlx * of that house . He was prohibited , by the forms of that house , from goingr into the facts stated before the Andover committee- ; yet the house was legislating on the subject without that evidence . What wa 9 to be done ? To mark the sense of the house with respect to the Poor Law Commissioners . He beli eved in all the social relations of life they were excellent men ; but they were acting on a mistaken principle , and violating
the rules of justice * tothapoor , whenthey said to the ^ . iWuicr tiint-iiujiii nnid " "bettortiired and driven from place to place by scanty andlnS \ i ' fflcfenirdiet . From year to year there had been promises of amendment , but none appeared- The tone and manner ^ of the noble lord to-night , in speaking of this question , inspired him with a better hope . He trusted that the noble lord was not so wedded to the Poor Law Act that he would not be willing to hare a committee upon the subject . It was quite clear that the commission was useless—that it was worse than useless , that it was a monstrous grievance engrafted on the constitution , which ought to be removed . Not but that the poor must have some means of appeal from the local authorities . It was quite clear that ( hey
could not be left to the management of the local authorities . There must be some appeal ; but how it was to be constituted it was not for him to say ; but that a radical change was necessary , must be evident to every hon . gentleman who for the last five or six months had applied his mind to the subj ect . Therefore , he entreated the noble lord at the head of the Government to g ive his early attention to the subject . No subject more urgently claimed the noble lord ' s attention than this . The noble lord was bound to consider what was the condition of the destitute poor under the present system . If they applied for relief , they were told to go to the workhouse ; and if they went into the workhouse , the . result was what the house was but too well aware of . It was evident that it' in the workhouse relief were given at the rates he had mentioned , the poor man would rather starve having his liberty , than starve in the workhouse . Therefore be remained out ,
determining to subsist , as be could , upon any pittance he might pick up , than enter the workhouse . That iieing known to the employers of labour , they offered wajjes according to the scale of the poor man ' s necessities , and the consequence wa » , that wages throughout England ranged from 3 s . to 10 s . or 11 s . a-week . But 12 s . a-week was not sufficient for a man to support himself' and his wife and children upon . It was quite evident that , as the poorhouse system was conducted , the poor would subsist on anything rather than go into the workhouse . He ( Mr . Wakley ) thought the poor man ought to be placed in a situation , if not of comfort , at least of sufficiency , whilst lie was on the look-out for employment . He entreated the hon . member for Moctrose to go on with his motion and take a division , in order to show the Poor Law Commissioners the opinion of the house upon the way in which they had discharged their duties .
An interesting and lengthened conversation ensued , but Mr . Hume ultimately withdrew his motion , on the understanding that the question should be revived on another occasion . Not a word was said in behalf of the Foor Law Commissioners , even by Sir J . Graham , who was present . A conversation of not less interest th » n took place on the subject of medical relief between Mr . Wakley and Sir J . Graham . In the course of it , the former paid a high and well merited compliment to Mr . Westlake , who had been dismissed from his office of medical attendant to the Andovev Union , and who was still exposed to the persecution of the board ot guardians in that town , because he had ventured to advocate the cause of the poor in the workhouse ; and the latter vindicated the conduct of the Poor Law Commissioners towards that gentleman , and threw the obloquy of his dismissal entirely on the local guardians . '
After various grants having been agreed to , ihe House resumed , and adjourned at a quarter to one o'clock . HOUSE OF LORDS , Tuesday , July 14 . The Loud Ciuscellor took his seat ou the woolsack at five o'clock .
SALARY OF THE LORD CHIEF JUSTICE . Lord Brovouam wished to give a general notice ol his intention to c . ll the attention of Government t < . a very important circumstance arising out of the appointment of Sir Thomas Wilde to the office of Chief Justice of the Common Plea ? . A most improper and unconstitutional negociation had taken place at the time of the ai . pointmeiit . of Lord Den man to the office of Lord Chief Justice ot thi-Queen ' s Beneli between the Noble Lord and the Treasury , by which the Noble Lord consented t « receive £ 8 , 000 a year instead £ 10 , 000 , the sun . ork'inallv eranted to Lord Tenterden , by the 6 th ol
Ggo . 1 Y . That negociation , he contended , was most unconstitutional , and the Noble Lord had no right to take less than the £ 10 , 000 a yer . r , payable quarterly , nor had the Treasury any right to interfere in the matter . The Act of Parliament made the money payable to the individual , and in his opinion it was highly improper to bargain for judgchips in this way . —( Hear , hear . ) xle trusted , therefore , that no such arrangement h&d been come to ., with the present Lord Chief Justiue of the Court of Common Pleas . He must add , in giving thisnetico , tbathc did not wish to impugn , thecnaracter or integrity of Lord Denman , than whom a purer or more upright judge had never sat upon the bench . —( Cheers . ) Tiie Act
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says £ 10 , 000 , and the financial statement £ 8 , 000 . He only wished that the matter should be looked into , and if there was no other Aet found that the I evil should be remedied . I Earl Grbt reminded Ldvd Bn&fceiiAsi iWtii he had disapproved of the arrangement made by Lord Dbniu 5 , ho ought to bare brought the matter before Parliament at the time when he held tbe office of Lord Chancellor . Lord Bjwhjoham denied having known of the arrangementat the time it was made , and , in rather sharp terms reproved Earl Gmr for venturing any opinion on tbesubjeet . Lord Brougham added the information , tJiatauch arrangements could notstand in a Court of Haw , for the executors of the' Lord Chief Justice of England could ciaim the £ 2 , 000 ' a yearwhich he had'given up . Lo r * Campbell confirmed this opinion , and ! expressed ! himself decidedly adverse-to * such arrangements .
The Less Csanceuioh announced that no arrange ' Intent of tfte kind was in contemplation in reference to the new Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas . p The Corosers' ( Ireland ;) : Bill and the Ropemaker ^ I Bill were severally committed . The Juvenile Offenders ' ' Bill was read 1 a second | time , pro forma , and the Kfarquis of Wxsotiinsteb then announced that he wouW not proceed with it further this session . The Thames Embankment Bill waa , on tbivmotion of Viscount Cannm ? , read a second time . . HOUSE OF . COJ * JIpNS—UoesDAr , July Mh . . . ' The SraiXBB took the Chair a * a quarter before four o ' clock . ¦
j ; ; NEW MEMBBB& ! Mr . Milwir Gibbon ( Vice-President of the Bowrd ! of Trade ) took the oaths * and his seat for the borough of Manchester . Lord Ebrikston ( one ofthe Lords of the Treasury ) allso took the' oaths and his seat Sbv the borough of Plymouth . ; . " NEW WRIT . ! Mr . Tufneix moved that a-new writ be issued for the election of a Member for the county of Sutherland , in the room' of Mr . Dun-das , who has accepted theoffice of Her Majesty's Solioitor-General . ' : ' . CAPITAL PUNIS-HMENTSi . Mr . Ewabt postponed his motion on < capital punishmentH until the 23 th instant .
. THE SUGAR DUTIES ; Mr . H . Bailik begged to ask the nobTe- Lord whether he proposed on Thursday , to state tihe precise nature of the measure he contemplated : for the permanent settlement of the sugar duties . The reason he asked the question was this : —at this late period ofthe session many members were leaving town , and it was of great importance that the matter should be brought forward at as early a day as possible-. Lord J . Russell . —What I said yesterday ,, and I repeat it to-day , lest there should be any misapprehension , was this , —that on Thursday I will state the precise day upon which I will bring forward the question of the sugar duties . I will bring it forward at the earliest possible day ; but the bouse must be aware that some previous inquiries are necessary , and I cannot , therefore , fix the precise day now . Mr . H . Bailie . —Then the noble lord will not Gtt ' Thursday state the details of the measure I
Lord J . Rubseu .. — -No ; I will state on Thursday the day when I will do so . Mr . H . Baime . —Then , I give notice that I shall oppose the temporary bill until I know the details of the permanent measure . Lord J . Russell . —Before I ask for the temporary bill , I ahall state the precise nature ofthe measure : but , as the details require-some consideration , I shall propose the temporary bill at the same time when I state the details of the permanent measure . Sir W . James inquired whether the noble- lord couJd name Friday ? Lord J . Russell . —I will state on Thursday the day 1 will bring the subject forward , but I cannot fix Friday .
POLICY OFTHE GOVERNMENT . Mr- T . Duncombe said , he understood that on Thursday the noble lord would state the measures he would proceed with this session , and those he intended to abandon . He wished to ask whether , on Thursday , the noble lord would state to the house the general principles by which his government would be guided , and the policy he intended to pursue ( a laugh j ) and , if not , on what day hp . intended to do so- ? .,. . ¦ Lord J . Rcsskli , —I do not consider it necessary to niake any statement of the principles upon which the government will be conducted . The principles will be those upon which I have always acted , and which I have always declared in this house . Mr . Dukcohbe—Then 1 shall put a few questions respecting those principles .
THE DUTIES ON TOBACCO . Dr . Bowring rose to call the attention of the house to a return , No . 295 , moved for by Mr . Hume , and ordered to be printed on the 11 th of iMay last , exhibiting , in a record of nearly one hundred folio pages , the miseries and the crimes created by the enormous duties levied on tobacco . Tobacco seizures were more in number than those upon any other excisoable article , and the augmentations of convictions within the last four years was nearly 250 per cent . Theincrease per annum in 1845 , as contrasted in 1842 was in England 102 per cent ; in Ireland 252 per cent ., and in Scotland 451 per cent . The steady increase in convictions forbade the supposition that it arose from greater vigilance on the part of the revenue officers ; there could be no doubt that the offence of smuggling tobacco had gone on increasing with the number ot convictions , and the state of thing , bad as it was last yearwould be worse this , and the present system
, would go on degrading , demoralising , and increasing the misery of the people . The cost of prosecuting persons guilty of the offence of smuggling tobacco was very heavy , and it all fell upon the public . 1 hei average period ofimerisonment was ninety-eight days , and within a short time 1 , 478 persons had been imprisoned for the offence at a charge of upwards ot £ 50 , 000 , without reference to the cost of prosecution , or the charge of convey ing them to Pjj l . It was high time that a tax entailing such craanious evils on tlw community should be repealed . ( Ilear , hear , hear . ) A great number of persons convicted ot the offence were sailors , who it was known were constantly engaged in defeating the revenue . They had evidence to show that there w ere smuggling schools in which persons were educated from infancy tor the purpose of carrying on smuggling . The great proiits to be realized , induced the rich to enter into the spefiiilation . ami tbe Door eimaced in it for the saue ol
smaller gains . The machinery requisite to prevent smuggling cost the country between £ 600 , 000 and £ ? 00 . G 00 . It was clear that this expense might be greatly diminished , by lowering the duty to a reasonable amount . It was difficult to ascertain the precise extent to which smuggling was earned on , but there was every reason to believe that the amoant ot smue" led goods equalled the amount of goods that paid duty . It would appear that no Jess- than 31 , 740 . OOOlbs . of tobacco , unmanufactured and manufactured had been smuggled into the country . l observations
Lately more minute microscopica gave a greater power to the revenue officers of . detecting adulterated tobacco , buttlie same power enabled the smuggler to evade the minutest search of thenncroscopo . It was , boside , a most unsatisfactory mode ot detection , and Ihc . revenue had , on more than one occasion , found themselves bound in honour to restoxe the Roods which they had seized . The onl y . way ot putting an end to smuggling in tobacco , was to lower the duty to such an amount that it would not otter such great inducements to the smuggler , k great nronoTtion of the population was engaged in the
demoralising practice of smuggling- He trusted tne government would look seriously tft the Subject . Mr . UuMEsaid he had taken the- greatest interest on this subject , and if the evil could be remedied the country w « uld gain morally and ii every other respect . The only objection was the diminution of revenue Kkelyto arise , but it wa ^ worth wfcfc to a » ke the experiment , and he hoped the ggTerianent would take it into their serious consideration . Mr . Stafforp O'Buibs rose to address the house wlipn An Hon . Member observed that there were not forty members present . ,.,. ' . r , „ , _„ The houso was countd , and thirty-four members only being present , was adjourned at half-past six o ' clock . HOUSE OF COMMONS—Wednesd ay , Jult 15 . } The house met at a quarter before twelve o ' clock , when
Mr . F . Maulb took the oaths and his seat on his re-election for the borough of Perth . The Hon . W . Cowi'bu took the oaths and his seat for Hertford . COUNTY OF SOMERSET SMALL DEBTS BILL . Mr . Dickekson wished to know whether it was the intention of the government to go on with , tills bill , or whether , as seemed to be the impression in some quarters , they would put it asido in order to introduce some general legislation on the subject . In order to ascertain that fact ho would now move that the bill be read a second time . Sir G . Grkt hoped the hon . member would no * , press bis motion tor tho second reading , lnis w . as
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MSa ^ ASCS' ** ' r ***~ Tf ^ T _ Gr ~ ^**»** C * Z * ? , n ! 5 8 Ome bi . which had tan rtfflWWf of tit ihtt ™ lt P ^ the purpose of intVbducm ^ romi S £ K "f , ^* to local courts . There was no ™ , 3 *> c government would support such her Z £ Jlli lf bTO"gIifc forward , and he hbpedthafe dSmbW * " P ^ ht government would even in ths thrSh M 1 Ilbe ~ A eet 8 Ucha measure as that tSSalleS& ? f Ejections which had existed an ! K » f » I tlonont ^ sub Jectbad been removed , sSSfsssssi tatSESKSSSSS haringbeen in possession of the ™ taKl . « 2
oa / B , id was impossible to go through it with that attention necessary to so important a measure ; he hoped , nevertheless , thafcthe government would be able to introduce that iheasure , , with some modifica . j tiona , even in the pMent < ses 8 ion > but ? if not * ha hoped that they would b * 6 ible to do so early in tbo next . Under these circumstances he trusted that the hon . member would not press his motion . : - -. - ^ A conversation of some length , in which Mr . B . Escoit , Mr . II . BiBKBLBT , ; Mrv . Ackiand ; ¦ , Sip James Graham , and Mr . EsieouRT . took patt ^ thea ensued . It terminated in Mr . Dickinsob ' s acceding to the requeBt of Sir G . Grbt , andwithdrftwingiUw _ . PAUPER REMOVAL BIlLyS ^ S uaptain P jchem , wished to know jybat . were . tha intentions of Government with respect to the mo .
nMr ? * M 9 e * RemoralBll ) ' which B stotfAtalt h * rSJ , rt ° " IBOrifw - ' i frw » U . I » veryeatisfictwy thefee ^ KStSS ^ ^^ wil'lv * ? t ? > . **» «*•> & «* ' pritosil ^ ftfe through the committee ; jm . / A and *» ask-the tehM ? * eree - *^ *^ : »« f eigiviiaWdrvSE iSf .-a ^ red the lanras to the removal ofpaupereytneTae *' eO ' -TiS *^ . *? * ¥ ; twal flfi appeals . » ahd ; . thelatftr "¦ part of ihe biiJ , which had ' teeti added smee tKelinV sfcyuotioas moved by the hon ; . member ofor ; : MaH » ii , - - and ' adopted by ; the , hqus& , telatedio ^ Bpoftsettled mentft ^ He proposed-to prait the latter . ' part of the bill , and-merely to ask the house '¦; ' # . assent to-that part which related to the remoVabilitv of naunera :
tie noped the , course , he ., proposed wpuld " . render unnecessary the amendments oontenipjatect' by ion , members .- , ;; : < : & . "V ; . * : : > , < ;;'"'¦ '* "VV' % ; ' ^> * _ SirD > B . E « w » intended to movVtheWhstituiiwr of three years'for five years ^ residence . ' . ¦ ; The Rating of'Tenements Bill was withdrawn . , line Sfoje ^ says-with reference to the speeches of the new Secretary for thsIIome'Department .- "War ; have not entire confidence in the verbal accuracy of | what is here attriuitted to the right hon . bpronet ; pna , without tbe most distant intention of
comihit'ng any irregularity , still less of offering personal dii * respect . -we may , perhaps ,, be permitted to mention , the great diffisnltjr experienced in accurately' reporting Sir G . Gi'e ^ . paitly owing to th >\ rapidity of his utterance and iite-jotirjie . ssof his voice ,, bnt cWefly-to hifrjiabit of turning fromftbe Speaker ' s chair , which ! - ren «* re him , especially when returning brief andabrttptanswers to creations , almost inaudible by thosebehind the chair :- In thedischarge of their duty to the public , the reporters are anxious that not a word ? which * tails from a * speaKer occupying so high apORi--tionaB-the right . ' honbaronet [ should be losb : b ' ut
, ; where- extraordiBOTy- obstacles are interposed and the alternative forced 1 upon them is between" suppressioff ' and misrepresentation , their anxiety-is not merely fruitless , bu *' ig'aptt » defeat its own object ; From personal expewtace w * can verify thfa stated ment . Sir-J ; Grahsmwhenhe choose could be-indistinct enough , but there was a chance of guessing at hisme 3 » ing ,. witl » Sir-Cr .. e-Vey there is not even that chance left , and occupying the important posthe does , it will be a perfect nuisance if he does not adopt a lessrapid and more distinct mode of expressing himBel £ ;] j
COMMONS ENGIiOSURE BILL . On the motion of'Sir Ji Grktmsi , the House resolved itself into a committee pro forma upon th . Commons Enclosure Bill ! , The report was ordered to- ,, be considered oa jFriday .
CHARITABLE TRUSTS BILL . Mr . Hume moved the second reading ofthe Charitable Trusts Bill .. As- serious objections had been taken to this measure , he thought he should best fulfil the object in view by merely retaining those clauses which secured the accountability of those who had charge of public money . It was the duty of t / ifs Jieuse , after the expense wliicli had been incurred in inquiries ^ to- have- some accounts available that would show how the revenues of each
trass had been expended . It was not his intention to include the Bible Society , and other religious trusts or charitits- where the founders were alive , but those only where the individuals were dead . The principle ofthe bill was toaecurethe accoutability of persons intrusted with public monies . Sir G . Grei should not offer- any opposition to the second reading of this bill ; but ' the house must not suppose that { has was a substitute foi' another bill , which had been thrown out in the - other house , or for a more general purpose . ' .. ¦ •' . ;• ¦ ¦ -. . ¦ ¦ ¦' After a few words from Mr . Brotherton and M » .. 'J ^ Eobmos , Mr . Bkrnai . warned MrYfHi « s of the difficulties which he would have- to encounter in narrving this measure- and recommended him to withdraw - li ., and to leave tlie whole subject in the hands of Government . . ;
Mr . Stafford O'Brien concurred in the advice given by the last speaker to Mr . Hume , and protested against the principle that the House of Commons had a right to interfere with every charitablebody . He moved that the bill be read a second time that day six months . Mr . Buck seconded the amendment . Mr . T , Eqkhtox tendered his thanks to Mr . Hume-for the introduction of this bill , and hoped that the house , with the knowledge ofthe abuses in the management of our charities , would read it a second time . Mr . Spooxer contended that a measure of such importance as the present could not receive adequate consideration at this advanced period of the
- Sir De Lact Evans supported the bill as a preliminary step to clear the way for some more comprehensive measure . Mr . Estcourt considered this measure to be one of bo grave a character as to require the Government to take it into itsowa hands . The present bill appeared to him to be very crude , and not likely to effect the objects for which it was intended , Herecommended Mr . Ilum&to withdraw it for the prescnt , and to introduce it next session in a modified form .
Sir J . Graham explained the ci > cumstances underwhich lie had assented to allow Mr . Hume to read this bill a first time . He also gave a brief exposi- . tion of the provisions of Lord Lyhdhurst ' s bill . on this subject , and expressed his regret that it had ' been defeated in the other Hsase of Parliament . lie considered the object of the-pyesent bill to be very , desirable , and insisted that the general rule of accountability ought'to be enforced . After some observations from-. Mr . Newde&atb- and Mr . T . EGEMON . and a short reply from Mr . Huain ,. which led to a declaration freai Lord G . SoM-KUSBT that he would vote for the seeand reading oi ' the bill , although be thought that great alterations-must bft made in it in committee-, Sb ® house divided , w ^" the second reading was cairek-il by a lusj . bl'ity Ol 42 : over 12 ' voices . The other orders were l&en disposed . - of ; and thehouse adjourned .
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hour , the wife of " -Mr . Andrews , greengrocer , or _ SU ,. Park-street , Grosvenoir-sqiiare , committed suicido by . banging herself to the pipe that conveys the water into the shop . Mr . Aadirows wa&abser . t at Coventgarden market , and the-son was gone to the Serpentine to bathe .. The husband first returned , and found his wife suspended , and ojiite dead . She had . been for seme time laberaring unto mental imbecility , and had lately been removed from the asylum at Brompton to her home . "Workmen Riots as "Valosiennes , —Thesttikc ot the coalminers at St . Vaast les Valenciennesslill continues ; the workmen at the hiine having -attempted to extinguish thft engine , fires ,. the military were called in and mounted guard with fixed bayonets round tbe steam engine . This was on the Wi j since then detachments from ' che garrison at Valenciennes have been posted at abo ut twenty-five or thirty mine's , Numerous arrests have been made ..
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Death of a Chabt .-ut . —Died on Friday July 10 th , 1316 , Thomas Coop , of the Shepherd's Arms , Old-stret't , A . « hton-under-Ijne , and late of the Tontine Hotel , Catnerine-strcet , a . ged forty-two years . He was a member of the Cli artist Association , as well as of the Chartist Co-bpcrn ' aveLnnA Society , anil one of the most strenuous advocates the cause as liadin this part ofthe country for somayunrs . His loss will be severely fclf by the juvenile portion of tho society . He was buried on Tuesday last , July Htli , ami was followed to his grave by upwards of two hundred of his friends , ho leaves a . widow and six children to lament his untimely end . if mv ¦ »*«•» i — wa ** ft ^ ta vit v ^^ ** v —*—— ^ * w- # * ¦«
* Brajtord . —The members of the Chartist Association will merit in thoir voum , Buttenvorth Bu ildings , on Sunday ( to-morrow ) , at oue o ' clock in the aiternoon .-A . public meeting of the members or «»• Chartist Co-operative Um \ Society will be Jicia " » their room , Butterworth BuiUhngs , on Sunday' yw movvm ) , at two o ' clock in-the ^ e ™ " -. Jt ^ yr-R cretavy anil treasurer wiU attend in the £ n } £$$ ?}> B receive contributions on Saturday cvem «| , *™ "jS ^ r "\ KKS ; JAS SW ^ SS ^ S ^ a& ^ rsssfflsaa ^ j ^ 'i itffo ' eio * i « tiio »! t «« ' : w- -sto * '' « ai m ¦ mmMu
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