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INTERVIEW TTITH LOiP STANLEY , SECRETART O ¥ ; STATB FOB THB COLONIAL DEPARTMENT . " j ( SO . 6 . ) ] The deputation then proceeded to the Colonial- ! office , where , after -waiting a short time , they were j introduced to Lord Stanley , -who apologised for the j slight delay , -which , he stated , had arisen from the \ desire of the Chancellor of tie Exchequer to meet their I deputation at the same time . He had sent to his office , stating that the deputation had arrived , and had re . eeived for answer that business of a pressing importance prevented Mr . Goulbum from having the pleasure of meeting them . _ In this conference Lord Stanley took a similar position to Sir James Graham on the subject of fereizn trade , competition , and machinery , cautioning the deputation , however , as his right bon . colleague had dose , that in putting forward these arguments he was cot to be understood as expressing his own opinions on j the subject , but simply showing the deputation the ! arguments by which their propositions would probably be met , and with a view to elicit from them to wkat extent they had considered the question in that light . The deputation , in reply . took a similar course of argu- ment t » that adopted in the interview with the Home Secretary , and succeeded in obtaining Lord Stanley's assent , net only to the prepositions laid down , but alee o toe fact that much of the evil had arisen from the'
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erroneous application of machinery under the guidance of ignorant selfishness . He confessed that the -view , of the question taken by the deputatien , whether we extended or restricted the operation of the present manufacturing system , appeared to him a gloomy one , but that he did sot see how the conelusioa could be avoided that , eTen with a large increase of foreign trade , there might and -would , under the pressure of competrtion , be an increase of self-acting machinery , n decrease of manual labour , leading to low wages , aud conse quently a low state of existence among the " few ' that might be employed , and this running parallel with the utter destitution , and pauperism of the larger number whose labour was displaced by these sew machines .
Th * deputation , in Illustration ef their remarks ' as to the effect of the present application of machinery npon the iabourer , presented bis lordship with apiece of cloth produced by the new felting process—a process by which , without spinning or weaving , hundreds of yards of cloth can be made per day at a price little exceeding the cost of the oil now used in making the Yorkshire cloths They stated that this fabric was now extensively used for inferior purposes , and that the defects which prevented its application to superior uses were in the process of rapid removal , and that , when this was
effected , its general introduction might be looked for , to the displacing of the great majority of the heads of families in the West Biding and other clothing districts A member of the deputation also assured his lordship , from his own knowledge , that in another department of manufacture a new machine was preparing to perform a process which now employed a considerable number of bands , and that with this new machine very few operatives would be needed ; and the deputation asked , " What was to become of the individuals who would be displaced by the general introduction of these and other manual-labour-saving machines V
Lord Stanley again repeated , that it was a perplexing question , at the root of the social derangements aud difficulties which have so much increased of late years But how to deal with it he was by no means clear . The deputation urged upon his lordship the imperative necessity of retracing our steps , abandoning the false pelicy and false political economy which had led us astray from the path of Bound national prosperity The evil confessedly arose from the superabundance of the means for producing wealth . Why should we be so insane as to make these the instruments for destroying our own happiness , and at the same H"i « for ruining that of our neighbours ?
The extent to which a repeal of the Com Laws would operate in relieving ihe labour-market from its present depression was also fully discussed with his lordship , and the inutility of that measure was exposed by the deputation ; while , at the same time , they asserted its abstract justice and propriety ; but , as a practical measure for securing permanent and remunerative employment , its pretensions had been thoroughly analysed , and it had been found wanting . The deputation concluded by laying before Lord Stanley a similar course of policy to that recommended to his colleagues , whom they had the honour of meeting ; namely , the passing of a simple , efficient , and binding Tax Hours' Bill ; the alteration of the New Poor Law ; and lastly , the appointment of a committee of inquiry , which should have for its special object the working of machinery since 1815 .
Lord Stanley demurred to the latter proposal . He said that committees and commissioners had become a bye-word , and he feared that if the present Government -were to pursue that course the public would believe that it was desirous of shelving troublesome questions with which it felt itself usable to grapple . He also graphically described the course of a committee , and the manner in which « ne of those " awful blue books * ¦ wound up its one-sided labours . Upon the whole , his Lordship did not seem to enteitain a very favourable opinion of this last suggestion . The deputation replied , that there was a wide distinction butween the ubc and abuse of anything . A razor was an excellent instrument when put to ita proper use—that of shaving—tut by no means so when applied to cut a throat . In like manner the bad purposes to -which committees and commisslonerships had hitherto been put formed no argument against their proper application .
It was urged npon his Lordship's attention that it would be a very different proceeding from that of " shelving" a troublesome questien for the Government , when it met Parliament , honestly to &ay , " We have no fscts to enable us to deal with one of the most perplexing and important of the questions which press npon our attention ; and . therefore , propose a commit ! ee for a full and complete inquiry , for the purpose of aiding us in maturing measures of relief . " At the same time the deputation were quite avrare that such a committee won' ; d fail in accomplishing the intended object , unless it was appointed at the request of the Government , and in the spirit and for the purpose named .
His Lordship -was reminded that no such inquiry bad ever been instituted ; and there had grown up amongst us a mighty power , ¦ which had done much to produce tie stsU ) ef things now deplored ; and that no inquiry into its f-perauons and effects , with a view to its due regulation for national well-being , had ever yet Le » n had . The time was come when this question roust be grappled with , or it would overthrow the strongest Government that could be formed . The deputation suggested this ccaiixittee u one of the best means of getting at the facts of the case . They did not wish for a mockery of an inquiry . They did not wish for a committee to run the usual coarse of committees and commissioners . Thty did not want a committee to get up a ca&e ; but they wanted a fml . a completa , and
Honest itquiry , by competent men of all parties , into the working of the present system , with a v 5 ew of applying a plain , simple , and efficient remedy . The deputation requested hia Lordship to bear in mind that , in suggesting this course , -which they were inclined to believe would be found in the end highly beneficial to all parties , they were not nrging it as the primary object of their mission—that was a Ten Hours' Bill . If the Government would give that , it would be an earnest to the operatives in the manufacturing districts that the Ministers really sympathised with them , and were desirous of alleviating the calamities which they
endured . It wa 3 no problematical question . For twenty-five years it had been dissussed and agitated in public meetings and in Parliament , and had formed the subject of volnminous inquiries . The evidence of men of the highest standing in the medical profesiion had shown that the continuance of the old system was incompatible with the dictates of common humanity and justice ; and the philanthropist and the statesman bad equally shown that its perpetuation was adverse alike to individual and national well-being . For these reasons the deputation earnestly pressed upon his Lordship the necessity ef adopting the Ten Hours Sill , as at least a preliminary measure .
Lori Stanley expressed his pleasure at the interview , but said he saw great difficulties in the way of a settlement of the perplexing questions which had been brought under his notice . He bad been gratified ¦ with the very intelligent asd high-toned manner in -which these questions had been discussed by the deputation ; and they might rest assured that whatever determination was come to on the subject , it would be ¦ with all respect for the judgment of those who showed that they had given it a full and deliberate consideration in all its various phases .
The deputation then toek leave of Lord Stanley wKh feelings of regret , somewhat similar to those excited by Sir James Graham . Like the Home Secretary , his Lordhip ' B attention had been more prominently fixed upon the manner in which the measures proposed might affect capital , than npon the consideration of the higher questions of justice , humanity , morality , and the general diffusion of happiness among the population At the same time , however , the deputation have to record the high gratification which Lord Stanley ' s frank and cordial demeanour afforded them , and also the pleasure they received from the ready and able manner in which he entered into discussion with , them on the various important questions alluded to , during a conversation of upwards of an hour . His Lordship appeared to speak as if his mind was depressed with the difficulties which the Government would have to encounter , whatever course of policy it eventually adopted . v v p d c a
1 t To Mr . Beckett the thanks of the deputation are eminently due for the deep and heartfelt interest he took in the success of their mission , and the assistance be afforded them . Opposed as they were to that gentleman in political opinions , and avowing freely this difference , it gratified them exceedingly to find him bo superior to class , party , and conventional influence , and to hear from his lips the avowal of principles in re ~ ferenca to the use of property , and the rights of the poor , ¦ which , if more generally felt and acted upon , would speedily terminate the acrimony and division now so prevalent between the wealthy and the poorer elasses , and insure to the latter comparative comfort , to the former the good-will aad esteem of their poorer brethren . For such sentiments and principles , sincerely held , the deputation entertain the highest respect , whatever may be the party-name the individual may assume . e ^ 1 x ^ t I 1 1 j < t 1
] , In conclusion , the necessarily brief and imperfect report here presented from recollection will afford a tolerably fair idea of tLe reception which has been accorded to your deputation , and of the degree of success which has attended their mission . They leave the facts they have narrated to speak for themselves , and , without further comment , conclude by . subscribing them-Belves your fellow-werkers in the cause of justice , truth , and humanity , George A . Fleming . Joshua Hobson . John Leech . Mark Cbabtbee . Titus S . Brooke .
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t c j i i 3 1 1 A Jewel of a Wipe . —A Lliss Charlotte Mitchell , of Georgia , recently appeared on her wedding day dressed entirely in Bilk of her own manufacturecap , gloves , BtockingB , and dress—equal to the best pofigee . Girls , do yon hear that ! Such a girl would be worth more to a young man just starting in the world than a thousand dollar farm , and hair a dozen piano 3 to boot . Really she is & wife worth having , and Mr . William Warrington may think himself a fortunate man .. —American paper .
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THE OASTLBK TESTIMONIAL . ; The object contemplated by the supporters of this fund is that of providing for the well-known advocate of public rights , Mr . Richard Oastler , and his family . Having been impressed very early in life with the extreme importance of thoec principles which conduce to the general welfare of society , and encouraging constantly in liis mind a feeling hostile to every infraction of those principles , Mr . O&stler became a strenuons supporter of the cause of the weak and the oppressed , as well as an ardent opponent of all who attempted to exercise injustice and cruelty .
The sphere of his private duties being the great manufacturing districts of England , Mr . Oastler ' s sympathies were necessarily excited by the sufferings of children of tender years who were employed in the manufactories , and the energies' of his mind were directed to the great question of legislative regulation of factory labour . To all who have exerted themselves in this interesting and momentous question , Mr . Oastler has given the most efficient support ; and those who have watched the progress of the subject are gratified by
knowing that the question having obtained the sanetien of the legislature of Great Britain , has also been adopted in France , Prussia , Austria , Russia . Switzerland , and a part of the United States of America . Mr . Oastler , as is well known , has also contended for a just and humane system of Poor Laws ; and his advocacy of the great and sacred principle upoa which all Poor Laws should be founded , in contradistinction te the modern attempt to innovate and encroach upon the constitutional right of the poor to relief , may be characterized as strenuous , constant , and most successful .
Although the advocacy fef the great public questions before mentioned has placed Mr . Oastler ia the position of an influential supporter of popular rights , yot he has not attempted either to increaw or to uphold his influence by appealing or yielding to the selfish passions of any section of the community ; but he has boldly and emphatically , and often in the midst of great personal danger , denounced oppression and injustice in whatever quarter they appeared to originate , whether it was in the case of the rich against the poor , or in that of the poor against the rich , his object being to instil into the minds of the whole people the great truth of relative duties , and the paramount necessity of fulfilling them ; the source from which he has derived bis knowledge of those duties being the will of God , as revealed te mankind in the Holy Scriptures .
Thus Mr . Oastler ' s constant endeavour has been to maintain the principles upon which the British Consti tution is founded ; uniting tiie monarchy , the aristocracy and the entire body of the people in a mutual and just snpport of each other , that bond of union being the Church of Christ . It will not excite surprise , that seeing systematic tyranny and cruelty practised upon the most helpless of our race in the extent to which Mr . Oastler has witnessed it , he should have been driven by the enthusiastic ardour of his nature , to utter expressions which those who have not been similarly circumstanced might well condemn ; but on this point he has been tbe subject of much misrepresentation , and also of much wilful detraction ; notwithstanding which he has continued in
an undeviatiug course of public duty , net permitting bis exertions to BusUin the least check on account of opposition and difficulties which would have overwhelmed most men . One very important fact , shewing the true and valuable nature of bis services , should-. here be mentioned , which is , that those who have been so placed as to be best acquainted with his ^ metives and his proceedings , have proved themselves to be his warmest and most constant public supporters , as well as his private friends , amoiigst whom may be reckoned proprietors of some of the largest factories in the kingdom . The great efforts which Mr . Oastler has made for his country , have , however , cost him much . No considerations of private interest have ever restrained him in his
endeavours to fulfil that which he conceived to be his public duty . This great , benevolent , and patriotic man is no w the inmate of a debtor ' s prison ; debarred the full exercise of those admirable faculties of mind and body whichTare bo well adapted to procure an ample provision for himself and family . A most earnest appeal is made to those who are attached to tbe cause of British Constitutional Government to contribute towards raising a fund for the purpose of placing Mr . Oastler , his wife , an * their adopted daughter , in comfortable circumstances . The meney which is raised will be under the control of the Trustees whose names are hereafter mentioned , who will decide on the best method of fulfiliag the object intended .
The projectors of this Testimonial beg to suggest to all the fritnds and supporters of Mr . Oastler's principles , the necessity of proceeding immediately to form themselves into Committees for the purpose of canvassing their respective neighbourhoods , and communicating the results to the Honorary Secretary ; for it should be particularly remembered that the well-being of all ¦ who obtain their living by their d&ilyiabour is especially included in this cause , and that many of them feel a warm interest in it , whose contributions , however small , will be tqually esteemed as those of much larger amount . The Trustees of the Fund are , the Right Hon . Lord Fevereham , Sir George Sinclair , Bart ,, John Walters , Esq ., John Fielden , Esq ., M . P ., and W . B . Ferrand , Esq ., il P . The Honorary Secretary is W . Atkinson , Esq .
Subscriptions will be received by Messrs . Drummond , Bankers , Charing Cross , London : nnd by the Honorary Secretary , Mr . Wiili&in Atkinson , No . 16 , Doughtystreet , London , to whom all inquiries and communica tiona are to be addressed .
CONTRIBUTIONS ANNOUNCED . The Right Hon . Lord Feversham - - £ 50 0 0 Lord Ashley , M . P .... - ... ... 25 0 0 Sir Georjre Sinclair , Birt . ... ... ... 10 10 0 Sir Alex . Hood , Bart , Coapton Castle , Somersetshire 3 0 0 Jehn Walter , Etq . ... ... . " 25 0 0 W . B . Ferrand , Esq ., M . P 10 10 0 The Kev . J . D . Soomberg , Polesworth , Taraworth ... ... ... 5 5 0 Mr . William Atkinson ... 8 5 0 A Rutlandshire Rector aad his Wife ... 5 5 0 London . January 1 , 1842 .
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FREEDOM OF THE PRESS . A most densely crowded public meeting was held at the Social Institution , John-street , Tottenham Court Road , London , on Fi Way evening , Jan . 7 tb , in consequence of the Bristol magistrates having instituted a prosecutien against Charles Southwell , for pnblisbing his own opinions in his own way , in a weekly penny paper , called The Oraa'e of Reason . At eight o ' clock there could not be less than fourteen hundred persons present Mr . Clauk was called to the chair , who in a few brief preliminary remaiks called on Mr . Southwell to address the meeting .
Mr . Southwell , in coming forward , was received with loud , long , aud protracted cheering , which having subsided , he said he would not take up the time of the meeting with a relation of his sufferings . What was the Archbishop of Canterbury about ? Where were all the well-paid Bishops and clergy , that they did not answer him ? Bad writing could produce no bad effect , if the people had been well educated . It was because all tbe Archbishops , Bishops , deans , and deacons could not answer him , and because , if truth prevailed , they would be obliged to give up their rich livings , that they had resorted to prosecution , ( Loud cheers . ) He was equally opposed to physical force madness and moral force delusion , and , consequently , could not agree that every law , however , bad , should be respected ; be believed tbe time
bad arrived when plain speaking , and public honesty , were held in esteem ; what he had written he would defend fearlessly , and without the least reserve , be the consequences to himself what they might . ( Loud cheers ) You are all interested in the question at issue . Shall we be at liberty to express our sincere opinions 01 not ? The day will come when you will laugh to scorn all those who would dare to curtail the liberty of the press . I have this great consolation to know , that my sufferings will be your gain . ( Thunders of applause . ) Lord John Russell recently said the thing was finalthat he was not prepared to stir up the cauldron of public opinion—that he could not bring himself to favour any further organic change ; bnt , said Mr . 8 ., if you , the people , will it , they must have change , whether they will it or no . ( Loud and long continued applause . )
Mr . Cohen requested , and was permitted , to address the-meeting . He stated ha would permit freedom of opinion generally ; but whan they went the length Mr . S . had done , he would have the law most stringent , and such persons severely punished . ( Great hissing , ant ! cries of " off , off . " ) - Dr . Sharman , a dissanting minister , came forward , and in a most eloquent spwch , denounced the prosecution of Mr . SeuthwelL He said the Bristol magistrates were a Bet of fools . If they had let Mr . S . alone , the Oracle of Reason would have died in three months ; but now they had taken the means to give it a long life .
Such things had always thrived by prosecntion ; he could not agree with Mr . S . in opinion , but it was not at all in accordance with Christian principle to resort to prosecution . Why did those who received ten thousand a-year not come forth and reason With Mr . S ., if they could not , and it appeared they could not , by their actions—let them throw up their stipends , and he would meet aim , and he thought be could convert him ; but prosecution , and persecution , having been resorted to , he should feel it his duty , as a Christian minister , to aid and assist the oppressed . ( Loud cheers . )
Mr . WmiELOCK said Scripture gave no authority for such prosecutions ; he , therefore , could not agree with Mr . Cohen ; he was decidedly favourable to the fullest and freest liberty of the press ; but being a moral-foree Chartist , he did nut like Mr . S . ' s allusion to moral and physical force . . Mr . Hetherington said when he was prosecuted , he had asked the Attorney-General to define blasphemy , but the Attorney-General could not tell him what it meant ; but he ( Mr . H ) thought he had discovered what it was , namely , that we should not print , publish , or debate upon any question that was likely to deprive the priests of the loaves and fishes . ( Great applause . ) He believed i : was the duty of all to unite to uphold the palladium of our liberties—a free press . ( Loud cheers . )
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Mr . Southwell , in explanation said , I certainly did not mention the word Chartist ; but I am candid ... :. I have no desire to conceal my opinions , I am both a moral and physical-force Chartist , two in one ; moral force is all -very well , but what is the u » e of the mind without the bone and sinew . ( Loud cheers . ) There was a time when resistance became a virtue . The French bad shewn ug an example , and was about to do so again , the 8 * ooner the better ; he would now leave his cause in $ eir hands , and whether he received oae or two years imprisonment , he trusted they would still find him honest and straightforward ; two years would work a wonderful change in their affairs if they were bat true to themselves . Mr . S . resumed bis seat amidst the most deafening applause . ^ , .- ' Mr . . RTA . ii . then stepped forward and moved , ;
"That this meeting is of opinion ^ that Mr . Setithwell had as much right to express his opinion in his own way , as any bishop , priest , or prelate , © r any Christian had to express theirs ; they , therefore , sympathise with Mr . S . under his present prosecution , and pledge themselves to aid and asaM him by every means in their power . . / -v ;; - : . V .:,. '; , /' / ¦ . ' . "'¦} - .,.: - < - ¦¦ ¦ . - - : , - . ' -.-V--Mr . Stall wood stepped forth amid loud applause to second the resolution , which was put by the Chairman , and carried unanimously , amid the loudest plaudits . It was then announced that meetings would be held in several parts of the town for the same object ; -,,. .. . ¦ . ¦ ¦¦ .. ¦¦ ¦ . ¦[¦ : '¦ ¦ ¦ . /¦• ' ^¦•¦/ ¦' . ¦ . ;•; ¦ : . - . ¦ . ¦¦ ¦ : .
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NOMINATIONS TO THE GENERAL GOUNCIL . v BURTON-ON-iBEMT . Mr . George Forster , maltster , Horninglowstreet . ' . ¦ . ¦• ¦ ; -. ¦ \ :- \ : : ' . : ¦ '¦¦ ¦ . ¦ . ¦ ^ :-- :: . ¦ . ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦/' .:-. , - \? ¦ ¦ .. ' Mr . Thomas Lucas , cordwamer . Long-street . Mr . Thomas Taylor , brazier . High-street . Mr . Joseph Hall , painter , New-street . Mr . Philip Tyzack , brewer , High-street . Mr . William Sudlonr , news-agent , New-street , sub-Treasurer . Mr . William Hall , cooper , Goo 3 emo 6 r , sub * Secretary .- ' -. \ ' : ¦ \^ ' -:::.: -. y- ' \ .:.. ' . \ ; •"
:: i SOUTHAHPION , Mr . J . Hill , shoemaker , Spa-road . Mr . Palmer , shoemaker Mount-street . Mr . Goodman , chair maker , Back of the Wall . Mr . J . West , hatter , East-street , sub-Treasurer . Mr . J . Russell , shoemaker , Russell-court , sub-Secretary . ¦ ¦ . " '¦ ¦¦ ¦ -: . ¦; . . ¦ ¦ ¦ " > . ¦ ; ¦ . ¦ ¦ ¦¦ ¦• ' „ ¦ _ "¦" ¦ " : ¦ ¦ . ' . ¦¦" ¦ '¦ . - ; ¦' ¦ ¦ . ., . " ' . RYDI .. ' . " . ; " . .. - ' - . ; V V Mr . Nicholas Tall , tailor , Plane-street * Mr . James Lake , brewer , High-street . Mr . John Quelch , shoemaker , Plane-street . Mr . John Wm . ; Butler , shoemaker , Warwick * street , sub-Treasurer . Mr . Henry James Bollard , tailor , Plane-street , sub-Secretary . y
; BERUONDSET . Mr . I . Kelsey , 13 , Minto-street , Bermpndsey . Mr . James Morgan , 6 , Wellington-street , Black friars-road . . '¦"¦ ¦¦ .. : . ¦ . ; : .: ; - ¦ : •¦ ' ¦ . '¦ ¦ ¦ . ¦ . '¦ ' : ¦ Mr . William Kendall , Walwortb Villa . Mr . George Taylor ,, 13 , Richmond-terrace , Wai worth . - ' . ¦ ¦ . ¦; '¦' . . ; : .,. ¦ ' . - .: ;• . . ;¦• "¦' ¦¦ : ¦ ¦ : ¦ ¦ y . v " ¦ . . - - , Mr . R . Dodgson , Southwark Bridge-road . Mr . Mark Amos , 177 , Long-lane , Bormondeey . Mr . Henry Jones , 2 , Southampton-street , Dover Mr . Robert Flint , 11 , Castle-street , Borough . Mr . Benjamin Harrison , 48 , Peuton-stroet , New ing ton . 1
BRADFORD . Mr . Joshua Rawnsley , weaver , Lidget-green . Mr Johu Whitehead , weol comber , George ' sstreet .. ' . .:- ' ¦ ¦ - ; ¦¦'¦ ' : - ¦ " ' - . ¦'•"¦" . ¦ . '¦'¦ '; " . ' ' ¦ Mr . Johu Firth , wool comber , Manningham . Mr . John Healeyv wool comber , North Wing . Mr . Thomas Corodes , wool comber , North Wing , Mr . John Arran , news agent , George ' s-street . Mr . Thomas Verityj stonemason , Great H or ton . Mr . Thomas Ibbetson , cap maker , Church steps . Mr . George Fletcher , wool comber , George ' sstreeti . ; ; Mr . William Borrows , wearer , Great Horton , sub-Treasurer . Mr . John W . Smyth , shoemaker , at Mr . Alderson ' s , Bank-street , sub-Secretary .
BRISTOL ( YOUTHS . ) Mr . Wm . Davies , Horeefair . Mr . Wm . Williams . Siapleton-road . Mr . John -Morgan , Elbread-street ; . Mr ^ George PullcUj Narrow Wine-street . Mr . Charles Bittlo , Castle-green . Mr . Wm . Edwurd 8 , Lower Easton . Sir . Henry Cooke . Denmark-street . Mr . Fredoiick Gibson , E | a 9 t-&treet ,, sub- 'frea 8 urei Mr . George Powell , Narrow Wine-street , sub ^ Secretary .
CHELTENHAM . Mr . Samuel Laray , boot closer , 15 , Milson-street Mr . Thomas JHayward , briokmaker , Loiidon road . Mr . William Milson , plasterer , 22 , Kingston place . / Mr . Thomas Williams , green grocer , 227 , High street . Mr . Frederick Tovey , carpenter , 18 , Rutland street . ¦ ' - ¦¦ . .. ' ¦ ¦' " . ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ .-. - ¦ ¦ ¦ ' .
Mn John Soul i tailorj 7 , Russell's-court . Mri John Leighfield , painter , 7 , Exmouth-street . Mr . Daniel Walford , plasterer , 53 , Upper Parkstreet .- ' . :. ; . - ¦¦ . ¦'¦ ¦; " ¦¦' .. - '¦ . . ' ¦ Mr . William Hi )) , bricklayer , Knap Cottage . Mr . John Glenistor , coach axle-tree maker , 59 , Duke-street . ' Mr . William Leacb , carpenter , 7 , Hamiltpn-plaee , eub-Treaeurer . Mr . William Perry , paper sta . iner , 2 , High-street , Bub-Treasurer .
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NEWCASTXJB . —Mr . O'Brien arriyed in Newcastle , by the railway , about half-past four o ' clock on Monday afternoon . The walls were placarded , announcing that Mr . O'Brien would deliver two lectures on Monday and Tuesday evenings , and a mblic meeting , open for discussion , -, would be held on Wednesday evening . The meeting was announced for eight o ' clock , and soon after 6 even the lectureroom was full . At a few minutes after eight it was unanimously agreed that Mr . Sinclair should take the chair , who " briefly opeued the proceedings by stating theobjects ' of the meeting , aud calling upon Mr . Crother 3 , who proposed the lollowiDg address to Sir James Graham , which was seconded by Mr . Stephen Binns , and carried unanimously ;—To Sir ' Janus Graham , Bart ., M . P ., Secretary of State , for' ilic Home Department . The Memorial of a Meeting of tbe Inhabitants of the Borouqh of Newcastle-upon-Tyue , belonging to the Working Classes , holdihg the Political Principles set forth in the Cbarfesr , assembled in Public Meeting , ; .-..-SilEWETH , —Thit we . .. : have deemed it our duty to memorialise you relative ¦• io the rece ' nt appointment of Magistrates for this Borough—not to express any opi ^ nion as to the fitness . or otherwise . ' -of the : parsons » pr pointed , but to draw your attention to an omission made in that appomtmeut , and to pray that it may be remedied , as we doubt Jiot that omission was unintentional . ' -I ' ..
-The gentlemen recently appointed are all of Tory or Conservative opinions in politics ; and the most of the old Magistrates hold Whiggish , or what are sometimes called Liberal principles . Thus two of the political parties in the State are now represented en the Bench , whilst hie thwd . ^ by fat the moist numevousV the Chartist party , being omitted in both appointments , are entirely mi 8 represente » d-Tbe object of this memorial is . that you would be pleased to recommend that some persons holding Chartist principles may be appointed Justices of the Peace for this Borough .
We are aware that an objection may be taken to this request , on the point " that as justice should be fairly admini&teTed to all , without reference to their politics or religion , so Magistrates ought not to be appointed with any relation to their politics . But it will be difficult to remove the impression prevailing en the public mind , that Magistrates are appointed , not merely on aeceunt of great talents and undoubted fitness for the office , but on account of their political creeds . And if it were , the regular separating of men , and their falling into the ranks of their various political parties on every question or discussion , pretuliides Uie pessibility of their appearing to act free from party bias . To expect them to act on all occasions , and in all matters , with freedom from party feeling , wbuld , we think , be expect ing too much in the present stafeof society . Your own experience will have shown you the contrary ; as also year personal knowledge of both Whig and Tory parties
will enable yon to judge to what extent keen unscrupulous partisans will go , and the great necessity there la , therefore , of framing the appointment of the Justices of the Peace so as to preyent the undue influence of any political party ¦ so that by such due admixture of men of all political opinions , the possibiltty of turning the Magistracy into a political machine may be prevented . Of the individuals appointed we do not wish to say one disrespectful word ; but the office of a Magistrate is one of great importance , tbe duties of which , if properly exercised , engender and foster the spirit of liberty—but if otherwise , depress and degrade the people , more especially in their rightly adminiitering the lawB which concern the rights and the liberties of the whole mass of the people ; amongst which are the the great rights , first , of meetiojf to discuss grievances and to petition ; secondly , the great right of , publishing opinions relative to matters civil and ecclesiastical , without the free and unembarrassed exercise of which , a nation , whatever
may be its pretensions to freedom , are slaves . It is a matter notoiious in the history of this country , that both these ' . - . great rights have been iillegally and wantonly invaded by persona armed with magisterial authority : that magistrates , yielding t 0 ; their personal fears , their personal and party dislikes , have forbid public meetings being held—have tyraaically disperssd the meetings of the people by military force—haw subjected the organs
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and advocates of the people to imprisonment , persecution , and expense , for words said ahd matters published which nltiavately a jury : of ttieir countrymen declared were not illegal— - ( such proceedings having the evident tendency ef fettering the spirit of liberty , and preventmg the titteranceof the voice of the people )—have demanded excessive bail , contrary to Magna Charta—have often awarded unnecessary imprisonment , tending to degrade and destroy the characters of the persons so impressed—have enacted harsh and
unconstitutional prison regulations , treating : the nnconvicted prisoner in the same mauner as the convicted felon , ( contrary to the eld maxim , that no man is to be considered guilty until adjudged so by a jury of bis peers , ) and treated political prisoners , whose only offence was holding a different opinion from others , and promulgating the same , as felons . These and many other acts of tyranny have had their place of action in this country . We will not tura to the dark page of Ireland ' s history , on which the doings of a partisan magistracy are stamped in letters of blood . ¦
We have , we think , stated enough to justify the prayer of our memorial , and our conviction that the magistracy ought to be so framed as to avoid a repetition of the detailed instructions of the constitution of this country , as settled by Magna Chart * , the Bill of Rights , and various statutes for establishing and securing the rights and liberties of the people of these realms .:. / ' . ' ; . ... . '¦ : ¦' ¦ '¦ . ' ¦!' ¦¦ . ¦¦ .-. ' . ' - . . ' " ¦ : . ¦ ' .. - ' : ' ¦' . ; - - '¦ . '¦"" . ' ¦ . ¦ We therefore pray , that as the two parties , Whig and Tory , ore represented on the Bench , some individuals , identified by their opinions with the Ch&ttiBt body ,: the people , may be dppoin ted as magistrates for this borough , and thus act as " a curb and check on the politics vt those now on it . We leave the case with more confidence iti your hands , as you have already shown your openness to conviction ; and we know that a sufficient number of individuals may easily be found , identified with the mass of the people , and fitted both by talents , education , and rank , for the office of a magistrate .
Mr . Kirken moved the following address to Sir Frederick Pollock , which wa 3 seconded by M . r . Cross , and carried unanimQusly : — : ;
To Sir FredeiHck Pollock , Attorney General . Sik , —We , the : inhabitants of Newcastle upon-Tyne and the surrounding country , most humbly beg to convey to you our hearty congratulations on your appointment to the high and honourable post of the Attorney Generalship ; and we beg you to accept pur best wishes for your health and happiness , and our earnest prayers that you may long Hye to bt » an honour to the profession of which you are ao bright an ornament . And permit us , Sir , to implore your Interest with her most graoious Mijeaty , Queen Victoria , in behalf of those three unfortunate individuals , John Frost , Zephaniah Williams , and William Jones , who have been expatriated from their country and their homes for the term of their natural lives . That these men were guilty of a high misdemeanour , we will not attempt to deny ; nor will we attempt to palliate their conduct , as being guilty of a misdemeanour ; but whether the crime with which they were charged amounted to treason or not , it 1 b not
within the limits of our province to decide ; but we may point with pride to the talented defence of the unfortunate individuals in question , nnd to the construction put upon the crime of which they stood charged , as a denial of the treasonable bearing of their acts ; and it may not be out of place , Sir , to remind you of the objection raised by yourself in favour of John Frost , and the respectable number of the venerable Bench who pronounced your objection to be valid . And we trust , when every circumatance of the case is taken into consideration , you will ' apt deem us foolishly obtrusive , or wickedly impertinent , in soliciting your aid to procure the return of those ill-used men to the bosoms of their families , their relatives , and friends , and in imploring your interest with her most gracious Majesty : to remit the remainder of their punishmeub ) , and to restore them to their country and their homes , as a memento of this happy and auspicious event of the birth of a Prince of Wales .
Mr . Dees moved , and Mr . Fainlough seconded , 11 That the memorials uow read be signed by the Chairman on behalf of this meeting , and to be by him forwarded to the proper quarter . ¦¦ At about halfpast eight o ' clock Mr . O'Brien came on the platform , and was hailed by the most deafening cheers . Having beea introduced by the Chairman , a . s the representative of Newcastle , Mr . O'Brien rose and spoke for two hours and a half , and was loudly cheered throughout ; after which Mr . Crothefs moved , and Mr . Han ison seconded , " That the thanks of this meeting be tendered to the writers of the Great Northern Advertiser and Gaieshead
Observer newspapers respectively , for the honest reports they gave of the proceedings of the last public meeting of the Chartists of Newcastle '; '' Carried . The Chairman read a letter which had been received from Mr . O'Connor , apologising for his inability to visit us on b . 13 way back from ; Glasgow , oa account of extreme ill health , but pledging himself to give us the promised : week before the Convention meets . The letter was-received with deafening cheers at the end of each sentence . A vote of thanks having been passed to the Chairman ^ the meeting separated at a few minutes to twelve o ' clock .
BIRMINGHAM . —DKr . EGATEMEETiNa—Ameeting of delbgatei for the transaction of tbe businees connected with the proposed Convention , ifce . for the counties of Warwick and Worceitar , was held at the Chartist ^ oom , Freeman-street , on Tuesday last . The following places were represented : — FREEMAN . STftEET . — -Mr . JL Thompson and Mr . H . Cresswoll . STEEtHOUSE-LANE . —> Ir . Porter and Mr , Follows . C 0 VENTBY . i-Mr . Peter H 06 y and Mr . Rabt Mahon . Sxourbridge . —Mr . J . Chance . WALSALii ' . - ^ 'Mr . ' ScholefieId . WEDNESBtKY . —By letter . Swallow-street . —Mr yaughan . WolvebhaJIPton .- —By letter . Reddish . —By later . Bbomsgbove—By letter .
Mr . Richard Thompson was unanimously called to the chair . r-Mr . John Mason acttsd as Secretary . The Chairman explained the purpose for whick the meeting had been called , namely , to consider the best means for procuring signatures to the National Petition and adopt a plan for the collection of the required sum , £ 25 , for the sappsit of the Convention . The lecturers' fund would also occupy a part of their time . At the request of the meeting , Mr . ( Jeorge White explained his views of the matter . Mr . John Mason also addressed the meeting on the state of the district . Mr . John Chance stated on bebM&f Stourbrldge that they would supply their quota to the'Convention and Lecturers' fund , and gaveadescription of the method they had adopted for procuring signatures and raisine funds , they were determined to wait
on all classes and solicit their aid . He expressed his surprise at the conduct of other towns in the district . Tlicy had not taken up tbe question as they ought to have done . He hoped they would see the necessity ot altering their conduct , and attend to the business at the next delegate meeting , Mr . Follows wished to know how many towns were connected with the Birmingham district Mr . Mason replied to the question . Mr . Chance thought that it should be ascertained whether the towns in the district meant to act or not . He would therefore move , " That the Secretary be instructed to write to each Association on the subject " Mr . Vaughan seconded the motion . Mr . P . Hoey said it was the determination of the Chartists © f Coventry to support the Convention . He had no doubt that they
would pay their share . He ( would support the motion , as he thought they eught to know who were the real friends of the Charter . Mr . Follows said that , as the lecturer was the ' -likeliesttoknow the numbers ineach Association , that he would give the necessary information ; after which they might make an estimate of the amount which each place ought to pay , and whether they couldUdo so . Mr . Chance then read a list of the members enrolled , in each town in Warwick and Worcestershire . After which , a caJculation was made of the sum which should be raised by each town ; from which it appeared that it would require a Bum equal to the payment of sixpence by each member . Mr . Chance said they could secure a good sum from quarters not connected with the
Association , and thought that nothing but cowardice could hinder them from getting the means . He had applied to several rich men to sign the petition , and should expect them to suhseriba towards the support of the Convention . Mr . Peter Hoey said it would be advisable to make a fair division of the auicunt required from each place . He thought that the best course , na some places might be better able to pay than others , each place should be informed what they were expected to pay . He suggested the propriety of adding that clause te the previous resolution . Mr . Chance agreed to the addition , when the motion was put and carried unanimously . Mr . Follows wished the delegates to proceed next to a consideration of the lecturers ' fund , and moved " That the Secretary be instructed to
write to each place in the distritt , requiring a specific answer as to whether they intended to support the lecturer ' s fund or not , " as it was useless to t ilk of employing a lecturer if the various parties agreeing to do so did not forward their share regularly . Mr . Scholefleld was instructed to ask several questions with regard to the non-attendance of the lecturer at Walsall on a late occasion . Mr . White explained the reason . Mr . Chance said that all places who were liable to the payment of the lecturer should remit the amount every fortnight at least A long conversation then took place as to the attendance of the lecturer at vari « ns places , it was ultimately agreed that it would be impossible for the lecturer to attend : punctually , if the payments were not forthcoming regularly Mr . Peter Hoey . —Had heard the various statements
which had been made , and thought the chief cause of complaint was attributed to the negligence of sub-secretaries , some of them perhaps could not afford to loae their time in looking after the business of their retpeotive associations . He therefore thought it weald be proper for that delegate m « etlng to recommend to each , association the propriety of remunerating their subsecretaries for loss of time . Mr * Chance thought it would be improper to make such reoommendations . They , bad all to make sacrinces , more or leas . He could not agree to lay down a rule for the guidance of any association , because if a man made any extraordinary eacriflce , the body he belonged to ought to be the best judges of the mode of remuneraUng him . Mr . Follows . —Was of opinien ' that the district secretary ought to be paid , as he hud a vast deal of work to
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perfoim . Mr . Follows * resolution was then carried unanimously . Mr . Cresswell then moved That » secretary and treasurer be appointed for the Conventloa Fund , for th « counties of Warwick and Worcester . * The motion was carried unanimously . Mr . Cresswell was appointed aecretaTy , and Mr . Barlow consented to assist him . Mr . Follews , of Monmouth-street , was unanimously appointed trewrarer . Mr . A Fossell then addressed the delegates . He said tbat he had beea deputed from Mr ^ White's Defence Fund Committee , to wait upon them in order to impress on the distriot the necessity of aiding the find for that purpose . Mr . White had been to Rugby to see the solicitor for the prosecution , and transact other business connected with his defence , of which he could inform them . Mr .
White then stated that as he had been served with a written doenmeiat from the Queen ' s Bench , e ^ n ^' - ' oh ' '^ titoy . to' ^ . attA % ' -.-- . at :- ''' 4 on < lbia '' '' ' 6 n the first day of next term , and as there was some rumour as to the withdrawal of the prosecntion , wish , fng-also to visit Rugby to make certain enquiries necessary for his defenee he went there on Friday last and had an interview with Mr . Harris , the prosecuting attorney , who informed him that in consequence of a mistake whick he bad made in taking the affidavits of the wit * nesses for the prosecution , the first indictment or Information had been withdrawn , but that they were proceeding with the case , and would apply to the Queen ' s Bench for another in the beginning of the term . Mr . Hoey stated that Mr . White ' s defence fun * was the first thing they meant to take np in Coventry . He recommended the secretary to correspond with the other towns in the neighbourhood , requesting their co-operation , and hoped that each delegate present would exert
themselves in aid of the fund . Mr . Cresswell moved , f That each Council be requested to exert themselves on behalf of Mr . White's / defence /* Mr . Chance seconded the motion which was carried unanimously . A conversation then took place as to the progress which was being made in proeurimj signatures to the National Pdtitlon , which was satisfactory . Mr . Cresswell stated thai as Mr . White was the only person nominated for Warwick and Worcestershire , there would be no ballot entered into . He therefore thought that the election should take place as soon as possible , and a public meeting called for the purpose . Mr . Hoey moved , " That each town be requested to holda public meeting for the purpose of carryiBg out their previoos nomination ! , and that it be done before that day month . On the motion of Mr . Fellows , the meeting adjourned to that dsy month , to'assemble at the Ship Inn , Steelhouse-lane , at two o'clock ; A vote of thanks was given to the Chairman , and the meelng seperated .
BARNONtD-WICK . —Mr . Duffy lectured here on Thursday ^ Jan . 6 th , to an attentive audience ; BRADFORD . —Nkw Leeds . —The Chartists of this locality met on Sunday night last Mr . Matthew Bradley was called to the chair . Mr . Row lectured te a very attentive audience , after which Mi . Dewhurst addressed the meeting , BVK 3 R Hltl *—Lectures and discussions continue to be holden in the Primitive Methodist chapel , every Wednesday evening . The cause is going on well . LIVERSIDGE—LiTTLB Town . —The Chaitlrts of this place have long been put about for the wsnt of a
room to meet in , but they have at last succeeded in obtaining one occupied by Cberiea 1 Brook ( a thoroaghgoing Chartist ) capable of holding a goodly nninber . The Gospel is preached twice every Sunday without money and without price . An associfltion was formed on New Yeart Bye , eighteen members were enrolled , and it is worthy of remark that they hayefonne 4 a male adult school , for the instruction of each other in reading , writing , and arithmetic ; they have also formed a library npon a very simple plan , every member bringing a book , say twenty , which will enable each meraber to have a fresh volume every week , for twenty week ' s .. ¦¦ . ¦ ¦ . ¦ ¦ ¦' . '¦' : ¦ -.. -: " : ' : ¦ ¦ . ' ¦ - - —;¦ ., ¦ .. ..- ; ,- ,:
-: MIDDLETON . —The Chartists of this place held their usual weekly meeting in their Association Room , on Sunday last The Secretary read over the accounts connected with the Association , and at the conclusion sevaral new members were enrolled . Chartist School . —The Chartists have opened their Association Room for the purpose of establishing a Sunday and evening school , to teach reading , writing , arithmetic , and English Grammar . It has only been in existence about a quarter of a year , and they have about fifty scholars . No pupil is allowed to enter this school under ten years of age . : ' [ - ¦' : ¦' . ¦ : ]¦ ¦
ABERBARE . —The Chartists of this place held a meeting on Tuesday , the ith inst ., afc the New Inn , Millstreet , Mr . William Charles was appointed to the chair ; Mr , Bayleys , from Merthyr , expounded separately , the six points of tbe People ' s Charter , in English , in a masterly style , which gave great satisfaction to a roomfull of attentive hearers . After him , Mr . John Harry rose , and , in Welsh , made a very appropriate speech on the eame matter , and proved that no other means could remove the distress now existing among the working classes in this kingdom , withont getting the People ' s Charter the law of the land . After enrolling fifteen new" members , making a total of ninety-three , the meeting separated . ^ ^ ,. IDLE . —On Monday last , Mr . Knowles lectured here on the evils of class legislation , to a numerous and attentive audience , after which eight members were : earolled ^ :- .-v - . ¦ - " ¦ ¦ - ¦ r \ '¦ ..- ¦ ' ' -: -: . '• ¦ ' ¦ ¦ - ¦ '¦'¦ :- "¦¦¦¦
BRADFORD . —^ Council MEETiNO .--Thi 8 body held their usual weekly meeting at the North Tavern , on Sunday evening , Mr . John Borrows in the chair . A letter was read from the General Baptist Body ofiering to join the Chartists , if the meetings of the Council were changed from Sunday to a week night . A deputation , consisting of Messrs . Brook , Ibbetson ,: and Smyth , was appointed to hold a conference with them , and explain the reasons why the Council meet on Sunday . From twenty-six to thirty thousand signatures are already obtained to the petition . The Council men handed to the Treasurer several sums collected for Mrs . Frost , and the meeting adjourned to Sunday next , at six o ' clock is . the evening , wken the report of the conference with the Baptist body will be submitted to the Council . : . :
BOWLING— Back-lank . —The Chartists of this place met on Sunday evening last , in their Association Room , to hear a lecture from Mr . Henry Hodgson . Mr . Hird was called to ; the chair , whV briefly opened the meeting , and introduced Mr . Hodgson , who delivered an able ; and interesting lecture on the present state of society , and the future prospects of the toiling and enslaved millions . He dwelt at groat length on the remedies proposed by the different parties for the restoration of the comfort and happiness of the working classes ; and proved , to the satisfaction of every one present , that nothing . " . short' of the People ' s Charter would ever je store this country to its wonted greatness and prosperity . ¦ - . { - " : ¦ ¦ ¦/ . " .:. •'¦ ¦" : '¦ ¦ . ' .. ¦ ' : ¦ ¦ : ¦ ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ' : ' ¦ ' ' : '¦
Delph HoLEs . ^ -The Chartists of Little Horton opened their new place of meeting oh Sunday . Mr . Jngbam of Bradford , preached an excellent Chartist sermon m the afternoon , and Mr . Thomas Ibbotson , another very impressive sermon in the evening . After the evening service , Mr . Brook announced that it was their intention to enter into a subscription for Mrs , Frost , and stated the difficulties under whieh this amiable '' Whig-made widow " laboured . . '¦' : v > '' -.:.- ... - ;'¦ - . ¦ ' :. - '" - ' .. .: ' - '¦¦ ' '' : ' - ¦¦ ¦ NEWARK/—Mr . W . Di Taylor preached two sermons here on Sunday afternoon and evening , in the Large Assooiation Koom , whick was filled .
The Chartists of Newark , wishing to testify their loyalty to the Queen , agreed to call a public meeting of the inhabitants , to be field on Monday evening , at seven o ' clock . The town crier was applied to to announce the meeting , but he went to consult , hia Worship the Mayor , who ordered him not to announce the meeting , which was to memorialise the Queen on the birth of a Prince ; and for ' the restoration of Frost ; Williams , and Jones ; but there was , notwithstanding , a very cood' meeting . Mr . James Saunders was called to The chair , and briefly introduced Mr ; Taylor to the meeting , who brought forward Mr , Bigg ' s Midland Counties Charter , and in an able speech pointed out the supe- ;
riorify of the People ' s ChMter over Mr . Bigg ' s ' partial one . At the conclusion of his address , Mr . j J . Li neham moved the adoption of the memorial , which wag seconded by Mr . F . Houghton , and j carried unanimously . Mr , Thomas Simnitt moved ; a resoiution , which was seconded by Mn W . ] Ingram Haw , and carried unanimously ;— " Tliat 1 this meeting views with disgust the partial , iin- j charitable , and disloyal conduct of the Mayor in j refusing to allow the erier to call this meeting for ! the purpose of memorialising her Majesty , and are | resolved on all occasions to protest against and ; oppose such cohduct . " At the close , four new ] members were enrolled . : i
f lRVlNBv—A meeting was held here , in the ball \ of the Eagle Inn , on the night of Friday , the 7 th , j Mr . Andrew Garven in the chair , for the purpose of j hearing the report of Mr . George Hume , our dele- j gate at the late meeting in Glasgow . Ths meeting having heard the same , tendered him a vote of thanks for his services , and agreed to receive the report fer their further consideration . Disappoint- : ment and dissatisfaction were expressed at some of the resolutions come to by the meeting at Glasgo'V * particularly with respect to the National Petition .
The following resolution was unanimously agreed to-^• 'Seeing that the large meetings lately held throughout Scotland either tacitly or by public resolutions pledged themselves to Feargua O'Connor to adopt the National Petitiony as drawn up by the Exeeative of Eugiand ^ and as the Scottish Goareation , itj our opinion , have committed political Buicide by departing from the same , we , the Chartists 01 Irvine , do resolve not to stultify pur former resolutions by going into any other petition for tw present . " - ' " , - ¦¦ ¦ - .. '" - ''¦' . . . . ¦' , ¦ " ¦ : _ '¦¦¦ ' : '¦¦¦ ¦ : .- ^ ' / .: , ' :
BUBY . —Mr . ( Charles Connor , of Manchester , lectured to the people of this town , on Monday evening last , in the Garden-street Lecture R » 0 ®* There vyaa a large and attentive audience , and W .... gave general satisfaction . ^ y 7 OTSOM-UNDER-El > 6 Er- ^ M r . : KnowleSi of Keighley , lectured here yesterday evening weeki t 0 ; a crowded audience , "On the evils of past Govern- ; ment , " and urged on his hearers the necessity 0 * - j union to establish tho People ' s Charier ai the law ot | the laud . '•"" .- ' ' .- ,- \ . ¦;•' . ¦ - .. - ¦ : " ' . - . '¦ . ; ¦ : ¦ - . ' .. ¦ - . ' . ; . - . ' .-., - ' - . ;
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THE TEN HOURS' FACTORY QUESTION . X HXP 0 B . T ADDB . KSSKD XO THE SHOkT-TIME C 05 TM 1 TTZZS OF THE WEST RIDING OF TORKSHIKE , OF CERTAIN C 0 SFERE > CES HEL » WITH TUE BIGHT HOXOCRABLE SIS ROBKBT PEEL , BART ., HP ., AKD SEVERAL OF HIS COLLEAGUES , ON THE SUBJECT OF THB TEN HOURS' FACTORY QUEST 105 , ASD OTHER IMPORTANT MATTERS . ( Condtttded from ow lasLJ IKTERTIEW "WITH HIS « RACE THE DTJK 3 OF BUCKINGHAM , LORD PR 1 VT SEAL . Xq . " 4 .
On presenting lord Whamclifie ' B letter at the resi . dence of the Dake of Buckingham in P * U-maU , at a late hoar in tbe afternoon , hia Grace appointed the follotring morning for an interview . At the time fixed , tie depntation ¦ were in attendance , and were immediately conducted to his Grace , who was in readiness to receiTe them , which he did in the most affable and friendly manner . As on former occasions , the deputation proceeded to explain their views on the question of the Ten Hoars ' Biil in its varions aspects very fully . To their state--xnentshis Grace paid the most marked attention . He poke with evident pleasure of the interview which the Ziaztcsahire depntstion bad had with him a short time previous , and showed that their representations were
well remembered by biny The general condition of the Working classes in the manufacturing districts ; the influence of the factory system in producing that condition ; and the past , present , and probable effect * of machinery , were amply explained and discussed , together with the results that would be Jikely to follow from free , trade , in connexion with the existing system . Thentcessity for the extensive adoption of a systematic plan uf home colonization was also l&icl before his Grace , who said , in reply to tbe representations on these va-2 icnis bead * , " 1 wish such sound views as you have just now expressed were of tener advocated in the House of Commons . " He added , " Whether as holding a
situation as a member of the Government , or in my private capacity , 70 U may command my services . With respect to the Ten Hours' Bill , I am with you entirely ; and indeedjin this matter I shall act with my friend and your friend Lord Aihley , who has so long and earnestly laboured in tfrfa cause . Those labours have znadi Mm fully acquainted with the subject in all its beaxiugs , and I cannot Co better than act with him in reference to it Whatever he may resolve upon , in connexion with yourselves , shall receive my hearty support ; and I shall at all times be happy to receive any eomniunica&m * froni you , and to forward , to the utmost of i » y power , thB object yon liave in view . "
The deputation expressed their high grctifleatien at these frank avowals of sympathy and friendship on the part of his Grace , and asked , whether he thought it advisable for them to see any other , members of the ' Cabinet ? To which he replied , " Certainly ; I shonld advise yon to see all who are in town—lord Ripon , tee Lord Gh&ncellor , Lord SUnley . I do not know how their engagements stand , but there is to te a Cabinet Council this afternoon , when I shall mention tfcematser , and communicate the result to yen . in writing . if I can be of any service to you , I shall be mest happy . - - The deputation then withdrew , after an interview of ceariy an tour , very much delighted with the frank and truly courteous reception which they had experienced from his Grace . George A . Flexing . - Joshua Hobson . John Leech . iiABK CHABTREE . Tixcs 3 . Bbooke
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INTERVIEW "VTITH THE LORD CHANCELLOR LTNDHURST . { No . 5 . ) On the same evening ( Saturday , the 30 th October ) the Duke of Buckingham sent a note , stating that tbe Lord Chancellor "wouid receive the deputation on the following Monday , at his resi denes in George-street , Hanover-square , at one o ' clock ; and that Lord Stanley trould see the deputation at the Colonial Office en the sme cay at two o'clock , tostther -with the Ciincellor of the Exchequer . L ^ rd Kipon had left town inunediatefy after tbe Council broke np ; and it was not considered advisable to Eaek an intorritw with the Dnke of Wellington , as , on the eTtniug of the same day , the , ¦ firebad occurred at tbe Tower , and it was judged that his Grace , as Lew Eijb . Constable , wonlti be too mneh , engaged to afford time to receiTe tie deputation . j
In Rccordsnce with the written intimation thus promptly and kindly conveyed to them , vats deputation attended * t tae Lord CLarcsllors tttUetiiE 8 appointed , and were shcsTi into a w&iting-rocm , where a number of ptrsccs were assembled , apparently also wsutiDg his Ikjrxl £ flip " s conveni-tnee . The deputation had ni < t , h # wever , been 5 n attendaaee there more than a minute or two , when a gL-niieman , whom , from hia remaining in the room during the snbstquent interview , the deputation concluded to be his Lordship ' s private secretary , desired them to walk up stairs , snd ushered them into another apartment . The gwitleman alluded to ,
then inquired whether we were pressed fer time , as-Ihe LorG Chancellor was ai that moment particularly engaged with eouneel , npon an important case ; to which it was replied , that us tax as regarded the time of the deputation as individuals , they wfre entirely at his Lordship ' s service , but that they h 3 d an engagement ¦ with L"rd Stanley in an hour , aad if the conversation with Lord Lyndhurst should last any time , it might cause a failure in that ewjaseratnt . Ixm > g « . u «»« B «» id n »»* he would stite this faet to the Lord Chancellor , &ad left the room for that purpose . In a few minutes ht returned accompanied by his Lordship .
( Ths deputation have been thus micuta in relating Trhat would otherwise be nniniportant circumBtances , simplv because they are desirous of doing iu ) l jostiee to the courtesy and attention which they unilurrnly experienced , &s representing considerable portions of the ¦ Wo rking class <« . ) The converaition wU : h ensued with Lord Lynnhurst took a similar conrss to that which tae deputation h&d had with Lord Wbatncliffe aad Mr . Gladsfcane . His Lordship displayed great readiness in eomprehendiflg ttie extent , the nature , and the effect * of the pioposed measure ; in analysing its leading enactments , and in teeing their probable consequences , in reference both to individual and also to national interests . Be subjected ths deputation to a close examination as to the
working of the present act , inquired minutely into the general condition sf the population in the manufacturing districts , aud the leading causes whick had contributed to produce the deplorable results stated , more especially with reference to the working of . the Poor Law and machinery . Hia Lordship appeared to be favourably impressed with th » arguments , facta , and details by which the deputation supported their views on the matter immediately under discussion ( the Ten Hour's Bill , } and these other more extended measures whick they took the Eberty of submitting for bis Lordship ' s consideration . As , however , the conversation presented ne essentially new topic as compared with those of which the deputation have already given an outline , it is unnecessary to go into detail on the present occasion .
The interview lasted nearly an hour , and at its close the Lord Chancellor said , that the deputation might depend cpon his giving the subject a foil and sympathizing consideration in cob junction with the rest -of ths Cabinet . He added , that " he had been sirongly impresssd by the importance and necessity of the cast during the very gratifying conversation which bad taken piace : and he was delighted to see that thii amicable mode of bringing their grievances before thi Government was adopt&d by the working classes Great mutual benefit would result from such friendlj and tempsrate communications . The deputation migiil rest assured that the subject would receive that attcn tion which its importance deserved ; and he afaii begged to express the gratification ha had received fron : their visit . "
The deputation responded to his Lordship ' s feelings , by expressing the pleasure they also had derived from the interview , and were leaving the room , when Lord Lyndhcr 3 t added , " I shall be most happy to receive vnj further communication from , you , on thiB er any subject of general interest , on which you may at all times command my services and best attention . " Lord Lyndhurst evidently possesses mental powers of the first order , and if the visit of the deputation should have the effect of inducing him to torn his attention to this subject , and the social condition of i the working classes generally under the present opera- j tion ef machinery , this interview will have laid the j foundation of an amount of good which cannot now be j fully estimated . George JL Fleming . jonhua hobsoh . John Leech . . " Ma hk Cbabtrex , Titus S . Brooke .
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Northern Star (1837-1852), Jan. 15, 1842, page 6, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct413/page/6/
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