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LANCASTER ASSIZES . I Continued from our seventh page . ) I caveyou notice at the Hall of Science , at Macjfcester . " . Why ? Because yon said that parties had made complaints . What did I say thai parties complained of ?—Ton € id n&t say . Ton sai-l that yon could : n <* t stop . On one occasion st a meeting ct tbe Hall of Science , < Ed I fioi iell yen to fee more particular in 7 okt reports , because -eoiaplflints bad been made of their insceuxac ; ? —Ton ssid I was to report properly , because parties had complained , bnt yon " would not give me their names . Did I not say that Tarioua complaints bad been made te tae by parties that you had made vrrons reports of their speeches ?—Y « u said yon had every confidence in ma .
Did I desire yon to ba particular in ths report yon ¦ were then taking?—Yes . Can you . bring your mii : d at all to bear on the time ¦ when yon first gave information to Sir . Irwin ?—I cant to a day . Can yon to a 'wesi ?—I think it \ ras about the 12 th or 2 4 th of S - > ptember . Ton ara sure yon are not three days out ?—I can t say . G-n you be four ?—1 m ght ba Can yea ba five dajs out ?—I might be . Can yon be sis da > s out?—I can't be more , I think . "Were yon in any work at that time ?—I -was repsrtisc for the Northern Star . How soon after Mi . Irwin first made tbe ^ plication to yon did you give him any information ? - Perhaps fr-jin fuut t * five dsvs .
3 > id you eonsidrr yourself rffended by the apj- ' -ication bemj made to yen ?—1 did at first , Why -were yen of ? = nded at first ?— Bs-tvEi * Hr . lr-Trin ¦» & * not in the habit of coming near uio . I thought he had taken too much upon himwif in asking me the question . Did yon state to any- body that yon ¦ srere effesded ?—3 "eat recollect that I did . D : d you mention it to any body to put them on their guard?—1 -srrote . To -whom did you writ * ?—To the Evening Star . "When yen wrote to the Evening Star , did you srate that no G 2 B had anything to communicate , and that it ¦ was of no use air . Irwin asking ?—J did not . Tdu -will B-srtar that ?—I win .
Alia Mr Irwin had been -with you , did you \ rrite a letter annonacins £ ofi £ fact ? I did . Did jon write a letter to i » t » ?—No ; not to yon . D 3 you "Write a 3 elt £ J to the Editor of the Evening Star ? Did you know that I was the E-iilor of tfce Evening Star ?—Tta . And ye » you did not -write to me ?—I wrote to the office . Ton ¦ wrote to whom y n knew to be the Editor , did
yon not ?—I wrote Mr . Psrdon . Was he the editor ?—I did not direct to the editor . Did you not considtr Mr , Pardon the editor ?—r ? n . Was the letter to h « m ?—It wjs to the Evening Star . "Was it to me ?—Net particularly . " "Was it to the Editor ?—It was to the nffi . ee . Do yon mean to tb » house—( laughter . ) Was there any application in it . Did yen -write to me for meiu-y to go to America , to take yen cut of lrwin ' s way ?—1 md not .
Ton will swear positively that yon never wrote fur money to take ye > u ont ef the country , because Xrsrin ¦ pas tampering with you ?—1 wilL Did yrn write ior money at sM ?—1 did , because it Traa owing Jo me . Why yoa faicnr that 1 had nothing to do -with tb » financial department of tha Star ?—Yon told me to ¦ wri te to Mr . HflL Wiiile 1 was und = i yon ., 1 was paid for my services And yon did not write a letter for money to take yon om of the country ? Ths Attorney-General—1 object to this mode of examination . If there is any such letter , let it be precluded . Mi . O Connor—Dc-es the Attorney-General think that ther * is no other sray of Droving it ?
Tbe Jndge—1 know of no other proper conrse fcnt to produce ths letter . Mr . O Connor—Then , my Lird , after I * have done ¦ With tie witness , I shall a * k for him to be retained . Cross-Examination resumed—Were yon not in a ^ -reat state ef poverty before Hi . Irwin applied to you?—was rather short of money . D ' . d you complain to Mr . Irsrin that you were starvinz ?—No . Bid yon borrow money from Leach ?—I said that if I depended npon the Chartists , I misht starve . Did yon borrow money from leach ?—So . , ye- ? = r!—Not at thavtime . - I Did yon horrsw sixteen shillings to bcry yonr chil- j dren ?—So ! he paid me finetn ifaillis ^ s for -sraitLcg a lecture . i
After the Conference you haTB spok&n of had brfkec up , what did you consider it was tis » t perpetuated the disturbances ?—A strike for wages . How much money did you reedfe from Mr . Irwin , prior to going before the Magistrates , at Manchester ?—1 can't say . About how much ?—P ^ haps a sovereign . Wa » that all you recer » ed ?—I think it was . Will yon swear it iras ?—I will cot . Will yon swesr you did not receive two sovereigns ? 1 will Dot , but 1 think 1 only received one . Win yon swear that you did not receive three?—Before 1 xave in my deposition ? Tes?—Tes . lwilL After you gaTOin your depositions ,-and before you left Manchester , how mnch did yen received—Perhaps three . soTereigns .
How many Chartist msetines do you fttfafr you have Sttcsded ?—1 cant taiciila . se tii-an . Have jon been in the habh of sea dim ? tbe resolutions passed at those meetnsga for insertion in the Sorihem £ tar ?—liare . 1 ^ Mik you , if the genesal ter . our of tbe principal resolution has not ior yean past been— " and we pledge carselves to centime tbe present straggle until the Charter b&eomsa the law of the taift ? - —It has . Ton were the Secretary to Hunt ' s Monument CJommirtee ?—1 was ttie paid - secretary . 1 ask yon on yonr oaih , waBnot Mr . Scholefield , in particular , men arxiuus , that every thing fiiould be given up waich had the riightest tendency to bring ths people into cr-nision with the autho rities ?—l thouebt *>
Did you write a letter to tbe 2 \ orfhtrn Star , relative to tiie Moscment Committee ?—Pediaps J did . Perhaps yon did . DL 1 you or did you not ?—When ? On the 11 th ot August . Here , Sir , is a file of tbe Herthtm Star of tbe 13 th of August Is that letter jcuu?—It is . The officer of the Court rtad Use letter . It was aa follows : —
" THE HTST HOSITMEST COMMITTEE . "OOTKE . CHASTISTS t ) P MASCHBSTEB ., AM ) THE STXBOUSDISG 1 ovi > s AKD YjilaG £ S- —The Committee appointed to superintend tbe erection of a Monument ; to the memory of the late Henry Hunt , Esq ., feel Borrow at having to inform you , and those other friends whs iad intended to bonour ni "" witb tht-ii presence at the procession on the 16 th of August , that after duly considering xrpon the present awful and truly alarming state of this district , and after CTfcry member present had given his opinion upon the matter , the following reso . ntion was passed unani mously : —
" That , taking all ihingB into consideration , the committee deem it tie most advisable , safe , and jndreious ct-crse to be pursued , under the circumstances , to abandon the Procession announced to take place on the ifi ' -hof Angr ^ t ; and that the Prtss be re quested to "insert this lesr . intian acd short address in thfcir cut-JfeEi pnbllcatiojia . " "Theiiktr ' -ct is certaiEly in s very unsettled state , and the members of the Committee bditve that if any disturbance ensued on that day , the enemies to the Charti 3 t movement ¦ would snatch at the opportunity aDd throw tbe blame on the Committee and tee Cfcarti ^ s generally . They perceive that the Manchester Guardian has already begun to charge the Chartists as the originators of , and as taiirg part in , tbe disturbances a&eady had . A charge as . false as it is cowardly and malicious .
"Tae meetinj , respecting the Monument , will be holden on the 16 th of Angnst , in the Bev . Jain * s Scholfcfifeld ' a burial ground , ETwry-street . The ground is private property j and the mietinsj will , therefore , be strictiy « afe acd legaL Toe delegates are txpectcd to be fcere according toprevions announcement ; likewise PearguB O'Connor , Esq . Tbe tea party and ball trtil ^ isa be holden in the evening , for which all due arrangements are being made . " in adopting tLi < i course , the committee feel that thfy best consult the interest and safety of the Char Ust caase . W *» they to go on with tbe procession , sad bring napon thrm the interference of the magistracy , tajBidt mitte fee tte coBsegueDce . It ! e wonld be endangered , blood spilled , and our * : ghl * ous movement greatiy enaai . « ered ana retarded . We want to obtain ^ LS ^ J ? * *?* ' Peaceable , and constitutional means , and not by force and tuumlt 11
Signed on behalf of toe Committee "Angustll ^ lS ^ " ^ « - ™ , Secretary . Ten have been an active member of the CharHst movement?—Tea . wiiorwoi , Did yon ever yourself recommend any means being resorted to except peaceable and quiet means ?—I never did . That joa swear on yonr oath ?—I do . Do you know Hitchin and Doolan ?¦*—Tea ; Do ^ yon know where tbs workhouaeat Stockport is » tastea?—Tea . ^ _ _ . __ Did jron era mate any application to those two men , Os sny «* 3 » O two , to bum down the Trorkhonse ? N © . ¦ ' Eatj- ' -c ^ ear J —I do . ' % 88 £ ^ &&& £ &&' *** , **** S ™ - " woldd Pr * cure a r ^^^^^^^^^ r ^ te fbB &at ^ to ^ - ^ SS ^ S& ^^^^^ & ^ / ti ^ " ^» 5 t >" " £ & * B £ y 5 : £ ^ g ?' r £ * i ^ *" ' ^ ^« aaWng an irrelevant ^?^^ - ^^^ - - > : ^< cT ^ V - ^ -l thoFdxtthewit-^^^ i ^ S&kS - * - ^ = ; T . ' . * ¦*« - - - vimiftte fact-^ MSI ^^^^^^ - * T ^ Z- \ - < k . g&km SG& ^ Q ^' - ^ ' - - 1- '^ -- ^" - ^^ T ^ vho
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On your oath , did yon not tell Brook that you would be a naO in O'Connor ' s coffin , and that you had It in your power to destroy him ?—I did not . Nor anything of a similar nature ?—Perhaps you will allow me to explain . I said that 1 would expose you through the press , for the manner in which you had served me . That is for paying yon yonr -wages ?—Ne : for bringing me from a situation , and then leaving me to starrs . Did you nok give me notice to leave ?—Mr . HDl Bald that the only fault we have to find with our excellent correspondent is , that he has . been too industrious—( laughter ) Did you , at any time , at Hargreaves ' a bouse , say that you would be reveDged on me before you died 1—I did sot
Did you try to induce other persons to give information to Mr . Irwin ?—Tea . Who were the } ?—Mr . Cartiedge . When did you try to indn . ee him ?—While he waj in the lock-up . What did you state as the inducement ?—I told him that there was the prospect ef a long imprisonment t > tfore him , if the charge was pressed , and that if he j thought proper , hu could go into fee witness box , Instead of into the duck . Did you tell Cartiedge that if he went into the witness box instead of the dock , the prosecution would i
not be pressed ?—Tea . Did you tell him who sent you ?—I did not . Wonld yon have been admitted to see any other prisoner ?—I should . Did you go?—I did not . How did you live while you were in Ireland ? Did yon look out for a job of "ork ?—Idid not . Did you do oeb day ' s work ?—No . Is it not a fact that you were in a state of the most aJ ^ jcct poverty before Mr . Ir ^ ia came to you ?—2 f * . t . abject poverty , fer I had credit Are you a Rood Chartist ?—Tes .
Do you subscribe to the six points of the Charter ?— I do . ! Lst me ask you a fair question , what was tbe state ' » f Manchester , after the conference had separated ?—It was in a very excited state . What was your impression as to the disposition of ¦ the people generally , at the several Chaitist meetings you have attended ?—Peaceable . What have been the principles which have generally indeed , 1 s » y unreservedly , been inculcattd on the peup'e J—rending to pesee . Have you h ^ ard me explain at every meet'ng at which you have attended , that there was no man in this world whose intentions had been so much mis * represented as mine' —1 have . '
1 a * k you , have you or have you not , at these several meetings , heard me tell the people , that the vtry moment an attempt was made to force them iuto a violation of the peace , ftom that moment their cau&e ^ as destroyed ?—l think 1 have Laird you say something to that effect On your oath has not that been the spirit of my addresses at all the meetings you have ever attended ? —Liiteriy , it has been bo . 1 nave htard you speak strong , but not so ticidng as sonia * Bat yon say that the general tenour of all my fir ' cfces has been to preserve p * saee , law , and order . H-ive j ou heard the Northern Star , and myself , and a great many of the leaders reprobated for not sanctioning tha strike ? The Attorney-General—I must object to that question .
j Mr- O'Connor—The Attorney-General charges the ¦ Sorihem Star with causing the rUlKe . Here is the re-; j > ort ~ r , and I want to ehow you "wiiat character tLe ' . A ' orikem Star has gained for itself by the course it has pursued . The Judge—The Attorney-General alluded to a par-( ticuiar passage in a particular paper as having that tendency . Ton cant set off your exhortations to peace and quiet on other occasions , as against exhortations to ' the contrary -contained iu a particular paper which the , Attorney-General has pnt in . j Mr . O ConntJ—It is perfectly competent for me from ' the lst of Angust to the l > t of October , to put all my i acts into evidence tJnrirg ths : period .
i The Attorney-Genera!—In my opening , 1 gave Mr . O ' Connor credit for having , ou various occasions , exhorted the people to quiet and peace . What 1 object to ijotb is , that Mr . O'Connor ask ? tbe witness If he baa iiot heard that complaints have been made against the Northern Star for having done so and so . Anything as to Mr . O'Connor ' s general character , or the general character of bis newspaper , 1 object to . Mr- OGonnor— "V eiy well , then , 1 don't press the qatet on . C , oss-examination resumed—Are you acquainted with the DewareDdora of Manchester ?—Not generally . Do Jou knot ? wbcD any society , or any indiYiciUftl , having a placard U- publith , send them to the sh ^ ps of newivendors , for the j-urpose of being p ! actd on boards fox public txoibitioi , ?—1 believe they are . B jW iong have you ki-own Jamts Leach ?—Two years .
1 will venture to put a question t « you on his beha . f . What is your opinion of his character ?—He is a very honest man . Has he at all times been opposed to violence ?—1 ^ ay hearing , he has . Is hfc nql esteemed as an excellent man by all parties ? — 1 have heard political parties speak highly of him . 1 brljeve you are aware ttat very angry discussions have taken place between the Com Law Repealers and the Chartists during the last year &nd a half ?—Tea . Were you present on one occision when yon saw me knocked down three times , and taken out of the meeting bleeding , in consequence of a blow on the temple wich a st ne ?— l was not present , but 1 beard the report . Were you before the Magistiates , when 1 applied for protection against these parties ?—1 was Dot .
Is it ibe general feeling in Manchester , and have yon not known it for two years , that the working classes ftel that the police rendered them no protection ?—Not generally . Has it not been stated that tbe policemen were the bludgeon men of Vh » Lt&gu *? Tbe A ' . tonsey General—1 mu » t object to that question . It is itally out of all character . Wexe yon at a meeting in St . Siiphenson ' s-sqaare , at vvhich Mt . Ccbden attended ?—Tes . Did you see the authorities there ?—I did . D ; d you see the working-people there ?—1 did . Did you see tbe police there ?—I 4 id . Wnat occurred ?—There was a great deal of fighting , and a . ro » . On whose part was the fighting ?—I did not distinguish the paity , but I understand it was your own onj ; trymen— ( Laughter . }
Why to be sure , my countrymen are famous fellows for fighting , Ik was they wbo knocked m down—( lausbu-r . ) But to which party did they attach them-Bdves ?—I understood to the League . D-d you think we were conspirators when we met 1 The Attorney-G . neral objected to the question . Mr . O'Connor—Tou may go . By the defendant Otley—1 have been in Sheffield once . 1 have not heard you bpeak at any meetings in Lancashire or Torkshire . When 1 was at the Coaference 1 took you for M'Arthur , the chairman . 1 know you now . The tendency of your speech was against the strike . 1 never read anything written by you in favour o ! physical force .
By M'Cirtney 1 spent my time in Ireland in reading and writing , and takiDg moderate exercise . 1 have neither hunted or fiished . 1 have shot at small birds for amusement . 1 have not been connected with the Irish police establishment I borrowed a carbine from a man who keeps a shop . He is not connected with the Irish constabulary force . 1 do not think there was the slightest anticipation of a strike throughout tile ourtry * t the time the Conference was called together ; at least it never came to my knowledge . 1 thought that particular care was taken at the Conference to see that every delegate had been legally and properly elected by the meeting he professed to represent . The reason why 1 said that 1 would not tell in whose hand writing the corrections of the Executive Cofftnitteea * address were , was because 1 did not know . Hie barrister Raid
" Tonmnst tell , " ana then 1 said "Well , then , 1 think it is Mr . CartledgeV 1 remember having a conversation with Campbell , one of the defendants . 1 did not say to him that there were some Chartists in whom-1 could place no corfidecce . 1 attended some of the trade's delegates meeting in Manchester . 1 have beard it remarked that when the first meeting of the traces delegates took place , that tbe excitement in the town of Mau Chester was beginning to subside . I never said so myself . I think the tendency of tbe Trades' Meetings was to keep up the agitation . I did not 'Ihiuk they had a tendency to repress the disturbances . I remember Tinting yon in prison , Bnd sympathising with yon , and also congratulating you on your liberation . I accompanied you to the railway . We sdjouaied to & tavern .
Witness—I would advise yoa not to g < a into that ; because it will iDjure youtsalt j Defendant—At the tim * . you were shaking haads j xrith me , and congratnlatin / j me an my liberation , iad yon not given that informs tion oa the strength of Tthich I I was again arrested . Witness—Not officiaPiy . A . litUe Ixfonnati&a had j been given , I told you so wh 3 a Ic "Wa& . at Manchester . I By Sir E . Pollock—A t the meetiiig « f delegates , Mr . Scbolefield brought in inf-xma&on , that Turner the printer , had been : arresf jecL 1 hav / j beea ont rf the -way because the Star and J } riii& . Stahtsstcm were condemning me . Information was brought , to me at Manchester , that if I appearer x i ^ tbe witoass box , I should be assassinated . The « yiTT ^ rmfog < jj the Conference had nothing to do wi' ^ sg fetence to Hunt ' s monument Xherewasnothingi' iiBcwBBdattbeconferencebutthereBOiutiona and the a / ldrfflS ^ hick i have mentioned . There
was nothing said aboit settUog oifferences . Alltbedisensaon related t 0 the Charts * and the strike , There was nothing said r ^ aecUng Bunt ' s Monument . 1 took a S ? T * ^ ' ° - Connoi ' K » peeea * t the Conference . 1 TTj ? ° * »*« a veibaUm report of the speech , but the ?™ of ifc The * nbstance of it Was to alter the word -a ^ S ^ f 1 " to " » PF «» W * nd to take adTantage of r ~*"" f * » * cause the trades had joined , and ¦ would be ^ knTA « Jf > x iliary . He assigned as a reason that ifc ZrriX w it more legal , and ^ evade the law in the ^ ™ e f allure of the strike . ^ •» tm H&nley examined by Sir G- Lewln—* jQ * l andas—H-. va you not beta in court daring tbe
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Witness—1 have , by the permission of your Lordship . Examined—In the month of August last , 1 was & reporter for the Manchester Guardian . On the 15 th of August , a meeting of tbe trades' delegates was hold at tka Sherwood Ian , Tib-street , Manchester . It was convened by a placard . Alexander HtttobJnson was in the chair . There were a n amber of persons called " scrutineers . * ' They examined tbe credentials of the various deleg » te 8 , before they ware admitted Into th « room . After that , an adjournment was moved to Carpenter ' s Hall . 1 went there . The chair was taken at one o ' clock by Hutchinson . M'Cartney , John Leach , 6 t Hyde , Gaorge Canrtalett , Augustus Frederick Taylor . David Morrison , William Woodruff , and Alfred
Wottenden , were there . A man named Duffy spoke . The character of his speech was that the anti-Corn Law League were the originators of the disturbance . He moved a resolution to the efft-ct—that the delegates now assembled view with the greatest indignation a proclamation to t £ e inhabitants of Manchester , in tbe name of the constituted authorities , and that as representing the great mass of the -working cl&Bses , they feel themselves called upon to express their firm determination to stand up fur their constitutional right of discussing all matters in which they consider their interests involved . They recommend every man to apply to the constituted authorities to be sworn in as special constable * , such a course affording tbe best proof of their disposition te
preserve peace , law , and order . " This amendment was seconded by M'Cartney , and the consideration of it adjourned until the delegates had made their report . There was a tea-party , at Carpenter ' s Hall , on the 16 th . I know Mr . Jami-s Schok-field . When I got tht > re he was addressing the meetiDg . He told the assemblage " that their day wag coming , and when it did come , it would come with a vbngeance . " He called upon them to enjoy themselves , an > 4 to remember the occurrences of twenty-three years ago . He than left the meeting At the meeting , at tbe Hall of Science , the same day , a resolution was moved by Benjamin Stotfe , recommending to all trades' societies " that from henceferjh they make political discussions lawful aud necessary in their assemblies , and that they embody , in their rules , a law for the adoption of this great principle . " This was seconded by a person named HigginboUem , but
ultimately withdrawn . The next resolution was moved by William Scott , to the effect " that an immense majority of the delegates were in favour of the Charter , and that in conformity with that opinion it was at that stage ^> f the proceedings necessary that a definite deciaon should be come to relative to tho future course of action , to be immediately adopted by the working classes , suiting definitely whether labour be farther suspended or again resumed . " Joseph Main waring then moved a resolution to the effect , — " i"hat the delegates here assembled recommend tbe people to take all leg il means to carry the People ' s Chnrte ' r ; and that they issue an address approving of the strike ; and that they stop work until it becoraea the law of the land . ' Frederick Taylor , from Ruyton , seconded the resolution . He was sometimes called Frederick Augustus Tayior .
By Mr . Bilnes—1 stood upon the phtform near to Mr . Suholetield . By M'Cartney—1 have been reading from print , cut out of the Manchester Guardian , but 1 have my original notes with me . 1 recollect your moving a resolution at the Hall of Science on ihr following day , that as there was no dependence to b < -- placed on tbe newspaper press , they might as well admit tbe public . Wo such resolution was proposed at the Carpenter ' s Hall . It was not my duty , as reporter for the Manchester Guardian , to toke & verbatim report of the speeches , becausu 1 Knew that the editor would not allow full reports . It was my duty to g . ve a fair expression of what was done , and not of what was said . So many speakers uttered the same thing , that 1 could put in four or five
lines what had been done in six hours —( laughter ) . As far as 1 can recollect tbe general tenour of the speeches was to inculcate tbe p'eBeiviitwn of property , thb preservation of tho peace , and respect for tbe constituted authorities , so far as they acted legally . The meeting of tho 16 th br&ku up in a quiet aud orderly manner . 1 was at the beginning of the meeting at Carpenters' H « ll , on the following day . The general character of tbe speeches delivered there were not to hold proper ty sacred . Ca&deleU recommended the people to go to tbe bills and take the crops into their possession , and live on them . 1 don't rtmember that this recommendation was reprobated by tbe Hiett ing . 1 think he was not turned out ; if he had , I should have noticed tbe fact .
The witntss here rend bis notes of what Candelett had said , on which , tbe Judge expressed it as his opinion that tbe language did not bear out the construction which had been put upon it by Mr . Han ley . Cress-examination resiiHivd—The chairman objected to leave lha meeting at Carpenter ' s Hall , on the ground that the mag i strates had no authority U > interfere witb tbem . Baring the ten minutes allowed them in which to disperse , they passed tbe resolutions 1 have alluded to . The Attorney General said he now proposed to call some witnesses tosptak to what occurred niter the 17 tb and 18 " . h Auguut
Matthew Maraden , examined by Mr . Hildyard—1 nm confttabie of Abb ton . 1 was at the Town Hall , on Tfcoroday , tbe 18 th of August . A mob came th < -re armed with sticks . 1 know Robert Lee . He was heading the mob . They went to Air . Barrow *' 8 new buildings . There wore sofnu bricklayers ami labourers at work . Tne superintendent refused to allow tbe men to be taken awsy . A riot tutued , and tbe men ultimately desisted from work . The Riot Act wjs read . By Johnson , a defendant—1 mean by a riot , there tras a general disturbance . The mob bramlUhed thulr sticks , and said they didn't care a d either for the riot act or the magistrates . They told the bricklayers that if they did not come down from the scaffold they would fetch them . By William Woodruff , defendant—1 don't know that any parson was injured btfure tbe Riot Act won read .
Samuel Newton , examined by Mr . Pollock—1 was ut Auhton , on the 18 th of Au ^ UBt last . 1 wss at Hulme ' a mill on that day . 1 remember a number of persons coming there about ten o ' clock in the forenoon . 1 should think at that time there were 300 came together . They had sticks aud other weapons . The mill was at work when they came . The mob dtairtd the master and overlooker to stop the works . The latte » said that the master was not present , and he could no nothing . As tht people were going away , they said , " We have not force enough here , Jet . ns go to fetch ths others . " They returned in about two hours after . 1 should think there would be 9 « 0 then . They walked to the mill , and then the hands turned out . After that they wanted tbe young master to promise that the works
should not Bturt agaith He replied that so long as their hands were willing to- work , the mill must run . The mob then raked out the fires from under the boilers , and some of them called out to pull tbe pluga- away so as to let the water out . One plug and one flro waa drawn , and the soldiers then came up and dispersed the mob . James Whitt&m examined by the Attorney-Gonural —I live at Carlton , about ten miles from Colne , aud two miles from Skip ton . On tbe 16 th of August , a mob of 2 000 or 3 , 000 came to Skipton . They stopped iho works of Mr . Dewbuist and Mr . Sedgwick . The latter made resistance for an hour or better . The mob got
a reinforcement and overpowared Mr . Sedgwick ' a people . They turned cut the handa , and stopped the boilers . I know James Mooney . tie lives at Colne . Ha told me about saving been to tbe Conference at Manchester , as a delegate . He- said they were broken up at the Carptnter ' 8 Hall , and then they went to Mr . Scholefield ' s place . He . farther informed me that a few met afterwards at Chaimoss . He said they were well prepared , and that if' anybody had gon 9 there to- break them , up , they woald have ropelled them force to force . He told me that , they had four double-barrakd guns , and two or three aiugle-barrelled ones . This raw said at the end of Angost . Nobody was with us vthtn the conversation took place .
By . Mr . M'Oubzay . —1 . was once a Chartist myself . 1 am a . weaver , and am in employment now . 1 have a respsct for the lave . 1 . never sold tea in my life . CharleB f ' wrack examined by Mr . Wortley -In Aug . lost , I waa employed as a . designer to Messrs . Wanklin , at Ashton . On the ISth , of August a mob came and tuised out the hands . We . -returnad to work on the following day , but they tuned us out again . We then remained out till tbe 22 i ; d . On the 24 th , the mob csmeagain . Upwards of 400 or 5 D 0 came to tbe rates , asd there were thousands about . Tne gates were fas-: t $ ned , and they broke * the m down . Tney threw stones into the engine house , anr 1 a number got into the wheels . Tbe Magistrates and up ^ cial constables came up while this was going on , aad tf . ey mre stoned by the same parties .
GrattanM'G&be ,. « xaj nined by Sir Gregory Lewin—I am a puliae superistuD dent at Burnley . 1 apprehended BeeBley , one of &e d eiead&cts , ou tho 3 rd of September . 1 found a priu ' . ed paper upon him . 1 now produce it . The officer of th / j Court read the paper . It was a resolution approving of the continuance of the " struggle" until tha Ch / irter should become a legislative enactment . By Mr . O'Connor—1 did not attend a meeting of shopkeepers at Blackburn , adopting the People ' s Charter . 1 did not hoar yoa speak at Burnley . 1 had other speeches reported but not yours . It was too difficult . The procession through the kwn was quite contemptible . We had been led to expeot a very formidable proceaaieo * and tbe police were prepared for them . When w » saw that the number was so very small , we did nob take sny further notice of them .
Mr . Issechar Thorp examined by Mr . Hildyard—I am a manager of the bleach works of Messrs . Neild , at Stalybridge . Our works bad been stopped . I understood that thsre was a body in Stalybridge who granted licenses to renew work . I went to the plaee at which they were represented to meet , and saw a number of persona there . I communicated the object I had in wishing to meet the committee . I told them that we wanted the power to work up the doth , which waa in proeesB of bleaching . In consequence of what was said , 1 went to the MonlderB Arms . A snail piece of paper waa produced purporting to giant permission to renew work . f he paper was put in and read . It was as follows : ^* - " We , the Committee of Stnljfcridee , think it our < 1 uty w —^ . v ; . _ » .. i-tt . ew ' .-v .. Ui ' . v _ < iv ^ t : fiuuii lUe
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pieces already in danger , but we will not go beyond that point . " " On hehatf of the Committee , «• To the Dukiofield Bleach Works . ' After 1 received -that p ^ per , put mill was allowed to work until we had finished the pieces then in process of manufacture , " when the works ceased and stopped for seven or eight days . By Mr . 0 Connor—1 do not know what Committee 1 went to—whether it was the committee of " public safety" or not Mr Peter Jamison examined by the Attorney-General —I am a tailor , and live at Stalybridge . My men were
turned out 1 had orders for mourning ; after tb&tl vent to a publio houso at Stalybridge , to get permission for tbe men to make tbe mourning . The first time ! went lsawFenton and Durham , two of the defendants . They said ( bat they had business of importance to attend to , and 1 must come again . 1 afterwards received a piece of paper from one of my men , for per mission to work . In a day or two , two persons cuuie to tbe house to see whether we were making mourning or not They founM a coloured jacket which a man had beea repairing , and they remarked that tb . it was not mourning . My-wife suggested that the men should take the work home , in order that there might be no
disturbance . William Barker , examined by the Attorney-General 1 was in tbe employ of Mr . Jaruieson , in August last . 1 remember going to the Moulders' Arms , in Stalybridge . to present my master ' s compliments to the committee , to ask permission to make mourning fora funeral , in order tbat we might show it to tbe mob . 1 received a small piece of paper which 1 did not read , and Kave it to ray uuster . By Mr . O'Connor—Have you ever had any quarrel witb your master ? Witness—No . Have you ever been charged with any offence by him 7— No . not by him . Wbo then ?—Some of the men charged me with taking two or three " rags '' from the Bhopboard , but they couldn't prove it
Why , what did you take the rags for ?—To put in my bat , to carry a small bundle on . What , was your bead sjft ?—( laughter ) . —1 put ' em in to carry eome swill on—( laughter ) . What sort of 8 win?—Swill for pigs . Was it jour own swili ?—Was It your ' s ?—( laughter ) . It was bought and paid for . Now , thf ^ e rag " . What were they?—The other men said they were " spare trimmiaKS "— ( laughter . ) Is that what you call cibhige t—( great laughter ) . — No . now't so gjod—( laughter ) . But your muster being a " swell , " you wanted something soft on which to carry the swill ?—1 defy you or any other nun to charge me .
Were you threatened to be brought before the Magistrates for it?—1 was threatened to be brought before an attorney . But you see 1 am not brought to justice yet . No , you are brought to justice now , and as you have got before the Attorney-General , yon may go down—( liiiii ^ hter ) . By the Attorney -General—1 was never charged by my master with uny offence . 1 am not in bis employ now . Mr . George Roberts , book-keeper to Messrs . Potter , of the D ntuu Vule bleach works , Duckenfleld ; and Honry Koberts , in the « er ? lce of Messrs Robinson , bleachers , Dacki-nneld , were called to prove thatthoy bed received a license from a committee of operatives , to enable tho above firms to resume their operations . At the conclusion of the examination uf tbe last-mentioned witness ,
Tbe Attornuy-General rose and said 1 am extremely bnp ; . y , my Lord , to tell you that the case for the ptoseuution is closed . The Judge cahed the Attorney-General ' s attention to the case , and to the indictment , especially as to the counts for riot As to some of the defendants there whs no evidence at all ; aa to others there was evidence of choir being preaent in assemblages with sticks , [* . \ ; and us to others there was no evidence of such acts ; but there was evidence as to their assembling as delegates . Tbe Attorney-General—In a case of misdemeanour it is not 'vt all necessary that ail defendants should be convicted on one count .
Tbe Judge—1 tbiuk you can't have an indictment for a misdemeanour , in which you charge A and B for stealing mont ? y , aud then for an assault , and find A guilty of one offouce , B of another , and C of a third . Att / ney-General—My Lord , 1 will state what did occur before Lord Dennian wben I remember tattiDg precisely the same objection aa that now stated by yonr Lordship . Some persons were charged with aconapiracy . some with obtaining meney , aud some with obtaining false evidence In that cobo some of the defendants were convicted on one count , and some on another . Lord Denrnan ruled tbat it waa perfectly competent , in case
of misdemeanour to indict for a riot and assault , if there were two count * . This rule was acted upon , and a cumber of the defendants were convicted on tbe first count , and some oa the second . And I think , my Lord , that this furni « beo a striking illustration o ? tbe importance of the principle , dfne of ' . he counts in this indictment is for a ri <> t ~ Yuiir Lordship knows that & riot in essentially different from an unlawful meeting , and the punishment is enflureut . I take that some of these defendants might be found guilty of riot . I don't ; m <\ in to say thpt any tucb charge can exist against Mr . Scbolefleld .
Mr . Dundas—The Attorney-General opened bis speech in thu w . y . He aaid the question was , whether tee ( tehndints bad unlawfully conspired together to bring about a change in ths Constitution by taking advance of tbe lute strike . We , on tbe part of tba defendants , understood that that was to be tbe questionin this case . I understood that if thesis parties wera to tm convicted , tkey were to be convicted for the &&n >« iff-nee ; I understood that that was-acquiesced in by the Attornej-General . Thu Attor » ey-General—1 beg my Leirned Friend's pardon , I did nut aiqaieace in u » y-sach Ining . Mi \ Dundas—Surely then , the Attorney-General ought tu have btiteu that ha intended to depart from the coarse which he chalked ont in his opening . Tbe Judge—What he now aoysis .-that it is com patent for bin * tu flud the defendants guilty of separate offenoes .
Mr . Wortley—So far from Djquiescing in tbe course pointed out by the other side , 1 j » U 1 X could not then dis * cuss tbe question . How my Lor ^ v 1 beg to call your Jordship'satteution to a case which !' ¦ think especially applies , and which was tried before Mr . Justice Cresswell , at LivevjMiol . The name of tb » defendant was Kelly * and the indictment was something very similar to lie one now under discussion . Tbere was n count for a conspiracy , a riot , and for an unlawful assemblage . Ther » was no cridunce of a conspiracy . Then as to the riot . There- waa a large inflating held at Ash tan ,
amounting to an illegal assemblage . The n . ob rxroceedtxl to a mill-in a body , and there was a riot . At tbe first flush of the cum , Mr . Justice Cressweil waa of opinioa that two-separate tr . Dsactioso inuat be referred to , is order to allow one set of the defendants tc be convicted on one count and seme on another . We shewed his Lordship , however ^ tbat the transaction waa all one , bv tracing tbe mob from one plao . to anotbvr , and thus we obtain ^ a conviction of riot agaiast some , aad against others foe On unlawful aejeiu blacs .
The AttorneyrGeneral—1 can assure you , my Lord , tbat this indictment has been carefully framtd with a view-to that same object . The Judge—But is it not a great hardship againatthe defendants , if they do not ioow- to what charge to dueat their attention , when they come to defend thtmselvesi ? l mean those who do not appear by Counsel . Tbe Attorns ; General—1 will put a case , ray Lord . 1 will suppose that there ur » a curnW of persons out " aide Manchester , and they joia those inside tho-town , for some purpose or other . They divide tbenaselves , one part going in one direction , and another ia anoiherv and each party doing certain acts , one exceeding
in Hkag&ituda the other . 1 . think you might-indict them along , witb others who took a subordiu&ie share in thosu transactions , and by proper counts yen might include them all in one indictment Mr . Sergeant Murphy—YjOui Lordnhip will , perceive that all tha defendants ore charged with conspiring together . Supposing it should appear that twelve persona conspired together- to- cause a cessation iroin laiuur , in order to effects an advance of ^ vages , and that twelve others were to conspire to effeat a change in . the law . Shalt it ba- said that the feaner are to ba convusted because the . others took advantage of the strike .
Tbe Judge—The onl 7 r thing which staggers me is the case quoted by Mr . Woatley . 1 don't aes that there is anything unreasonable , in the proposition which has . just been submitted by the Attorney-General ; but ia this indictment , the-desfendants are indicted for * conspiracy to cause riots , and another fos the perpetration uf xiota , which are perfectly distinct acts . Mr . Ducdaa—Xes , and met by . different punishments . The Judge—I have a record to daai with , and 1 & > n't know how to get at it , but by taking the opinion of the
jury on each case . Some of tho defendants or&m the last indictment , who are not in the flrat , and come are in the first who ate not iu the tost . 1 feel considerable doubt whether any judgment could be got in such a record- Tbfcio is no doubt that U is tbe commonest thing in the world that where a pasty is charged with a folony , be make bis election , and \ confess 1 don " t see the difference between a felon } and misdemeanour , on euch & subject . The difficulty is , that the defendants will have gte&t difficulty in knowing which charge , is Intended to hit them .
The Attorney-General—> That which appears to yous Lordship to be a difficulty , has beea very well coneidered by those who have advised the Crown . The Judge—As the Attorney-Gjaaeral saya that much disousBion has taken place upon this point , my view of the case may he erroneous . All 1 can do , however , is this—if there ia no count abandoned 1 most take a v « rdictoneacb . ! The Attorney-General—Then , my Lord , 1 will at once abandon the count for riot Ms . O'Connor—Come Mv . Attorney-Geneial , abandon the whole thing with a good grace—( laughter . )
Thu Judge—That implies the four last counts . The AttorneyvGeneral—Your Lordship knows thero is an obvious reason . The Judge—That exonerates all the ^ ofendantB . The Attorney-General—Your Lor&hip ia aware tL . ^ . tfit- i * uiiiiii . w u « m ctvbcs of xwi is eiftVwW'j auci
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may proceed to a length to whioh I bare no desire to expose some of the defendants , againsi whom that charge cannot be sustained . The Judge—I think you will see , that thai applies to all the last four counts . [ The Judge xead the seventh count , and referred to the sixth . ] The Attorney-General—1 will take any course your Lordship thinks right . The Judge—I confess I think you will do much wiser to abandon the last four counts , which really relate to actual riot , of which , as against the bulk of the defendants , there is no" evidence at all . The Attorney-General—My Lord , I put Mr . Scholefield forward as a prominent instance of one of the defendants who was certainly not within that : and it is but fair to say , that I should not propose , or at all desire , to deal so tery differently with some , as compared with others of the defendants , as to ox pose them to punishment so very different .
The Judge—Tne quostieu we may take to be in the five first couutu—are all there conspiring to cause an alteration in the laws and constitution , by making the people cease from labour , or inciting them to dd it , which will be nearly the same thing 1 The / i , as to the fifth count , I have some doubt whether that does strictly charge the defendants— [ his lordship read the couni]—with conspiring not to do anything by violence , but merely to persuade the people to cease from labour . I know there are different opinions in very high quarters as to whether that constitutes a crime or not . It then becomes a question whether you will confine them to the first four counts . Therefore we may consider the riot as entirely out of the question . The Attorney-General assented ; but added—I do not think the sixth aud seventh counts involve an
actual riot . The Judge—No ; th « y do not . You- may choose to go on with them ; but it seems to me very desirable to limit the number of counts as much as possible ; and I think you will find that , substantially , the first four counts compromise all . The Attorney-General asked to see the indictment , and ; at chis time the jury retired for a few minutes to ; take refreshment . After their return , the Attorney-General intimated that the Jodge would give him till the next morning to consider what course he would adopt , and therefore he woald only say now , that he abandoned ail charge of riot against the defendants . The Judge—That leads us substantially to knor ? what you will do ; aud I think , it' not in point of form , at least in substance , that limits it to Che offences aa charged in the early counts . There is conspiring ^ and inciting to de .-nst from work , and by seditions placards , &c , with intent to bring about a change in the laws and constitution .
The Attorney-General—I believe that the offenco of riot subjects the parties convicted of it to hard labour . I'havo op deaire to make auy-distinction between one Bfct of persons and another , with respect to any thing of that sort ; and I beg that : that may be distinctly oaders'ood . ( Other placards , including that headed " Kua for gold , " were put in , and taken as read . ) At half-past two o ' clock , Mr . Dvxdab then rose , and said that the cs 38 tor the prosecution ] having now closed , the Attorney-General , in his discretion , calling no more witnesses on tbe part of the indictment which he was there to sustain , it became his ( Mr . Dufidas '*) duty to present himself before them , as counsel for Robert Brooke , one oi the
defendants , land to state fc » Uie Jury fairly , as a freeman ought . ] what were the grounds on which he- aaiti not guilty to this charge , Butrfeefore he proceeded to enter iuto this cose , allow him to remind thero ^ aa in common conscience to the other defendants , be ouifht to remind ttiem , that he appeared but tor Robert Brooke alone , that the other defendants were some of them represented by learned friends of b& , whoht he rtjutced in having associated with him in this work of privilege , defending those persons whose interests were entrusted to their charge ;• and others of tbe defendants appeared there by themselves to receive at the hands of the Jury , upon wbat they might say fur thtmsdves , that &ir and liberal constructiosv which he had not the aligUteat doubt they
would pay to the humblest of tbeta alt , as much as if be were represented by a gentleman , the highest in his profession , jwtioui he bad tbe honour of sitting by at tbat moment- H « would add one more fact , which he trusted tho Jury , from tbe beginning to . the end , would hear in miod—that each and all of the defendants , though they were joined in one common charge in this indictment , stood severally on tbotr own de'ivorauce , and therefore their jharge was j not in the first place agaiast tbeui all , but it was , iu the 5 r < H place , with respect to- each , to see whether , by tho forca of truth—by- that necessity which ought to we i gh on jast-minded den , they found themselves coixpellad by what was giv « n < hi evidence to flnu any one uf the defendants guilty on this
indictment . Having . Bade these preliminary observations , which he trusted tbe jury would not thinfc ill-timed , he would , with' their pferuiiisciou , proceed t ^ 3 * y something on behalf of j his client They would remember that in tbe calm and forma } opening of this case , which was made by the Attoroey-Ganeral on the pravious Wednesday uioriitng , ttait tne naiae of his client , Brooke , neTer transpired—cbot although he ( Mr . ISuodas ) sat , lori ^ intf and wanting tu know upon What grounds Robeit Brooke was to- be found guilty of this charge , fretn tbe opening of * &e address to the close of it , he nevsr bad his attention-pointed to it at all . He did not complain . He aid sot complain of th « want nf candour on the part of his learned Friend . The roaltiplwity of the defendants made ifl no such easy muttwrfor a » nan to
poiat to particular evidence applicable to etcb . Sut be did find this difficulty , au 4 ha fead found h noi only a grievance , but a very considerable burden , that he hasi not from the 2 rot an opportunity cf- knowing wbat was tbe p-j . ru « uisr charge to ba preferred againc * his client , and upon what species ] of'evidence it was-that a convictictvrous sought ut tbe ^ faantia . He knew &y the itidictmoat * tha nature of the charges that were gaing to be brought against Brooko , b'jfc when be told ttom that tbat fauUctsuvnt contained nine- counts , many o £ them of a di 33 reat sort fr m tbe aSbsr , they would easily perceive that it did open the door , to a certain a ^ ree , to vague aad undefined accusations , if tbe-Crown did not n > ake-a > particular count- 'fit against tbe defendants . See what waa the consequence -of this .
The AtSsrney-Qeneral , in his opening , pat the iaeue on this single point . He charged the defendants-teat , by large assemblages , they bud endeavoured , by- force , threats , and inthnioatioa , to breed euch alum ra the country aa to produce a change in some of - 'the great features-of jthe Constitution . Tbat was i&d a&neral charge ^ vbich tbe Attorney-Genoral had boaped upon all the defendants , aud agaiast his client , a poor , lame man , lining at Todmorden , was all tbe strength of tbe Crown ta be borne down bj » this single issue ? -. He ( Mr . Duudasy-on the part of that poor man , was there to say that be had d »» ne no auoh thing ; that he bad intended to do no aach tiling ; but that his intention and act , if they tocfc the whole evidfeace , which tousiwd him at ail , w . is la induce the people who were out oa- strike to
adopt lha principles of tsbe Charter . Aud ha would Bay , in the presence of the Court , tbai . tbat was quite St different thi&&fsoia saying , thai by threats and intiaudation , he Bought to breed such alarm in the country , as to produce a fundamental < ihaage ia sorae points oZ the constitution-. The object of bis client was to induce tbe people , by rusaonable means—tyouaii means as whea they came U > apply their minda to she evidence , they wouidj say these iuwans were , to a 3 opt the Six Points of the Charter . ' What was the strifce ? aud then they would aea . shit was the Charter . Ho ( Mr . Dundao ) would say , titit if the wun w& : « oat on strike , aud if be wew-a Chartist , be oonteaded that lie mis&t take advuntage of tUt ) circumstance to induce those men to accoimoiisU tbat ¦ which by legal
enactment only C . uld ba aecomplished , acid which they thought -would cure the mischief thai ; bad brought the otrike about . H- < kuew that this- was a bold proposition , ! but one which , in a free country , a free man had a i right to make , and on the- port of his client he was prepared to abide by it , and . to show tbat beyond that be had . , no intention , by force , by threats , and ; by intimidation , to do anything ifaat mi « ht induce tb ^ ipeople who wcxe out on strike , to . come Iuto the principles of the dorter . If he bud sought by bayonet , by pistol , and violeuce of that kind , to bring about tbe Charter ; no doubt it would have been illegal ; bu ^ they would find that he had done ao such thing . It was by moral aud not by physical fore © that be h& 4 andcavoured to iaiplant the principles of the Charter .
He would now use tbem wbafc was the strake- ? All those I who lived in this county would remember the beginning and . origin , Very liktJy . of the differences between the workmen and their masters . He was not there curiously t » dive iato the particular causes which btoagbt about Ihe Uisagreements bstween the working men and their aiasters . It was enough for him tbat the working classes ^ in dilfereat parts { of the country , w < te extremely di £ Batistii < with their wages , tbat they , were , whether wall or iil founded , wider the impression that their wagea wexe about to ba still furtherreduced , and , cosscajieutly , they did that which by law they were entitled to do , assembld together , aud under the law in that behalf , consider for themselves tbat question which had again
and again met the ears of the Jury in the . course of this inquiry—whether for a fail clay ' s work they could not have a fair day ' s wage . By law , evesy working man bad a right to sell his labour to the . best advantage , aud that aa the master * -were protected , so were the men , and that as the masters might combine to see what wages they would give , so might the working men combine to see what vages they really would accept from their masters . . Every man might meet to do this thing -without any fear of consequences . The 6 th of G ; o . IV . c 129 , made ia July , 182 & ; folly bore him oat in this particular . Tbe 4 th section ! of that act specially provided that it should
not " extend to subject any persons to punishment who should meet together for tjje sole purpose of considering the rate of jwagea or the prices which t&e parsons then present , shall require foi his or her wort . " There was a protection | to every person . Every working man , whether wisely or unwisely , whether reasonably or unreasonably cUsBatisfifcd , had a fall right , under , the sanction , of this law , to meet his fellow workmen , and to consider ia what manner they might bring about a better rate of wnges . T&e Jury wouW find that at all thos « meetings , iwhich were aliuded U > before whm waa called the ] invasion of Manchester , ( although he vpus no . tg-. k gtu vJeftau an ; yivleuse «¦ . i-. tau ^ nn-n 4
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language or conduct , ) that the object was a diseMtf of wages , thongh very often the Charter superVen *? Did any man doubt that the original object of-thei meetings was to effect a better remuneration for laboii ? and that they thought , whether reasonably or no ^ S would not stop to inquire , that their wages wonM remain in their then state of depression , until tbe enaet ment of the Charter had been accomplished ? He ( Mr Dundas ) . was no Chartist , but he differed Immense with many persaaa who tbonght thai the Charter mZ tatned nothing of truth . He had strong opinionTfe politics , but he never looked upon a man as a bad snK ject , who differed with him in some fundamental prin ciple . He bad lived to see some of those opinion * which , in his youth , were reprobated as bad , as here . tical , and dangerous , adopted by the very peo « k whose language was ever readily employed ia L * smearing those who dare to indulge them an * in denouncing them as open enemies to ' Hm constitution . One of the points of tfm Charter was the Vote by Ballot . Who did not remeai berthat twenty years aeo , any person advoca " tingt £ ballot , would have been put down by ths . common cnZ sent of all parties , as a madman , whereas now , it «» impossible to go into any company or society , in wfcM this much maligned mode of voting did not flnd defen ! ders . He knew that many honest and well
nieaninmen , were opposed to tne rjaliot , as he knew that maa ? had yielded a reluciant assent to the princi ples olt ^ constitution , as it now existed . If there was troth , fa a principle , it woald sooner or later establish itself fa spite of all the opposition that might be raised agafeS it It seemed as if a mon who sought any casnire tl all , was to be looked ou by some parties as danger ^ and who wished to upset the constitution , as though 2 bad no idea that by moral means her might put forth Mg viewe and take advantage olf the generally express * opinion of tee country . Now , the strike , as b . 8 had
be ' ore satft , was upon wages . His client was a Cnarujt He thought among sther thiogs , that it -was not nee * sary tbat members of Parliament should have any qm , liflcatlon while sitting there . Be ( Mr . Bandai should be a very unworthy Scotsman , if he were to say that he did not think that that was a very bad lav There were fifty-six members for Scotland , and not one of them bad a property qualificatkm at all , so that tbere were sorae things in the Charter that were not so ridiculous and reprehensible as some parties seemed to be disposed to think . Now , then , there being a strike thu men wbo composed it thought they never would be better off till they obtained the Charte *; and U would say that a Chartist had a right to say to ihim paxtieB who were discontent with their wages , if w
faiiy discontented , —** 1 approve your remaitnag ostoi work until the Charter shall become the lav of the laad . " He would now ask to carry back the recoflections of the Jury for a Moment to what was t&eog . diticn of the country , from the beginning of Jcfygn to the end of August . In different parts of the country there were thousands of persons out . i . f woifc . gj believed they had it in evidence that some ol toe * parties sonld not get into work again , —that * het&r it was trte or false of macy , it certainly was trds of one or tvro millo wnerg , that they intended to close their works fora month , and they . would not take iota their employment the men who applied for work . TheJnr * would find that there was no great disapproval o&thipart of the shopkeepers of thoas part'es who wereoK
the strike , bat they would find that they were taagh £ to believe tha * it would be a good thing for them , si well as for the working classes * themselves , if ti » Charter could be constitutionally enwted , and , there ' fore , those persons who wera C 3 aztist 9—be wasnpt now defending teeir intern peranee- ^ -scnght toaecQmplish that object , and from the very- moment at which they first found Ws client in the fieJd they would find that alt he asked for was a fair day's- wage forafiir day's work , ami until they ceuJd obtein that to remain out of work . He ( Mr . Dundas ) msin&iaed that thii was perfectly legal ; But although the views of some of
these men on Chartism were so very strong , whaVhip pened ? It was a most astonishing thing , that so masj persons should beinso many different parts of the country , should be under no particular leader , but wider aome benign influence which he 8 Upj »> 3 ed muitbe called a lovo of peace , law , and ord r , " " thoagh they tooke peace here , and ' - did not keep orderthare , —yet generally under some such influence , theywera-pnt of r / ork for many and saay a day , they congregated in great nambers without doing any gT 63 t viobaw to person' or property . His Learned Friend , the' Attorney-General , had given his full admiration to t £ &je partiar , audb « ( Mr . Dandas ) firnriy believed that this « ould not
have-happened in any other conntry , thattfeoraaadiof perrons should be in the greatest necessity , 88 $ jei'dv no aot of violence to life , and that acts-of vJolenos-, committed for their own 'perscsal gaio , ware-afeasost nothing at &H—when they eaw'thiS ) tM repeated that it was a most surprising and artonfah inc ; thing , and he could not help wonderiBg' at the conduct of those men , wrro ^ under no goidanes Bst tbat of " peace , law , and order , " which the Attorney-General bad said were worda only pat it&o-- their HJcutft *—that this large body ef men should hsvs been so loKj on the face of the - country , and no violence-, or scarcely any , offered to the life , limb , or property of any individual . HoweTfcr , tbe penple got- inn > Manchester , and he would take the Jury from- the
time when Manchester waa first spoken of on the 9 th of August , when a great mytrag wasfceld at Ashtoiiv and whert the people were ' going into ManoSeeter , where there was to be a meeting of delegates . What was th »' evidence on this part of the transaction ? Where were tho people to go te > ? "Why , tb 8 y . ; had the evidence of Turner to shew that Pilling , one-ofth * defendants } had said that fee w&hed to go with- 'thc body of ? the people , to rssefc tha masters , as ^ the--masters would not meet thenii to obtain a fair day ' swage for % fair day ' s wovk , and not to be saifefled ' until they get the Charter . Some mills were stopped ,, but no farther damage was done by this large body ^ hO marched into Manchester . Before this tipe , there <» ali be no Aaabt that the Chartist * intended to have ^
great meatins . in Manchester , on the X 6 th or 17 tB . of August , on- several grounds . - Ksst , there bad beat some falling out in the body , and they thought it desUable to have a meeting of delegates , so that they should insome-wayorother , setfle these things amongjthen > selves ; twtake their organizA ^ oa . ( for they hadajiglib to be organized , if they kept the peace ) into consideration , in order to see whettor-it required altaraaott Secondlji- those persons wc » to meet as delegates , were to ^ elebrate the 16 th of . Angaet . the day-when . Mr ^ Hunfs 3 » nUHient was to be fiuily . opened to the paWie * Well . Sir . Bfooke was appointed a delegate to W 8 > Conference . Was there anj ^ biisg illegal in th »? * J » apprehended that there waa none whatever . « 18 i fl ™*' notice they had of his cliect . was- the evidence , frm at Manchesiffl
Laving been-seen at the CoEferenw , * oa the ltth of August , in Mr . Schelefield ' s c ^ pe ^ j * they teo&th * evidence of Gattlefige and GnfBDjlloia of whom , had be 6 n put forward on the other E * j » partiea-who must know Use * truth , they weulakfln * that that Conference was wholly irrespective [ ^ J ^ f turn out in- different parts-of - the country . . ; Tte » could be no doubt that for weeSs and weeks thi *« H £ fc-reflca-- had been originated before tbe state'tops placa Oartledge bad said ; that he wa » £ delegate-at the meeting , and tliat he diB »»> . »• tend to- do anything illegiU , bot that on t ° ^ ^ trary , the Conference was met . to consider tbeCflanW agitataon > and the celebration of the opening <* W £ ? monament They had tbe-evixience of (» fl SSUJ 9 : fact , that the meeting , of delegate * was PWJf ^ before-the strikeaad he had stated the objects ot tn »
, Cor&renee to be the same .. BaS was Mr . Hocfca im ^ meat a ieasonable thing that the delegates should ws » at Manchester on the 16 ih / of August , or wos . it only » exceofl fot their being thsre ?> Why , they *» . »« ««• deaes of . most respect& > 5 e parties to Bh « w ; tnas xw yeais pass there had Deaaaa assemWsge . o £ tDP F » ** at Manchester op that day > . Mr . M'Mullin , an In « p »' tor . of Police , had sesa , these assemblagas- ^ taat aw 3 sia before last he witaessed an assembisge of Z . w » parjaona in honour of tbe memory of Ma Huntif » tbw on the last 16 tb 6 £ < A . « gust , a similar aarifestaBon ¦ wsa intended . But was-this gathering to ba thBraewi » oi-breitking up all threading interests ^ iJan ^ J ^' ia order to bring aboui the enactment of * tbe CM " ^ aadtbaa to upset tho-Government ? NowJ ^ saj ^ TZ . - - meat of the processiaa / was placarded altover Masa « p tBF «!» rl then nrnaa t * w > st-ribn : Wh » t W 1 S dOQ 9 ? « " *• ,
iff the peopie had desiised to overturn tha ^ onstjtU «> n , uK break the . peace , ofetottpset the civil . gpvarnHiew w Maschester , as w » s : aHeged by the learned "< 5 *»*} , 3 tha other aide , would i& have been bellwed thatflna ^ th * excitement which , prevailed , tboy ^ iwae&a piacww v giving the people-to anderstand taat . tne « onttffl ^ would not be opened on the I 6 ch of > Apg ^ i ^ * S 4 hatany breacbi of the peace sbaald peeof ! "n 1 ^ 15 t ! a of AugO 3 i , there came oefc an *^ mfm % Z stating that ia . consequence of tha unexpected exw £ , ment occasioned , by the turn-oufefor -waggs , the PfrrT , sion in honotasof Mr . Hunt's monument "would b ?* " ?? iw
place . Tha&was a reasonable announcement , whiCQ anthoritiea saw with their o- * &eyes , iEdif l ^ " ^ any meaning in language , it ranst bs > taken toat w « placard waa issued by the CsasMst body , and »;^^ by them to keep the ptaca aad , to promote order in i »» part of aer Majesty ' s dominious . Now , Mineoi J ^ parties , who had a right to-talk abimt their wages , eor ducted themselves in a very tumultuous manner , o still tie meeting of delegates took phce . Broo *« *?* appointed delegate f- > r Xodmorden , and be wentw *"" - mee& ^; of Couferencja , What happened ? *•» ( Cont \ nv £ & in our first page .
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O'CONNOR , Esq . of Hammersmith , ^ f' - { Middleseii by JOSHUA HOBSOS , at bia Eg ? - ing Ot&ce « , Noa . 12 and 13 , Markefcstreet , Brige ^ J ^ and Published by the said Joshua So Jr ? ( for ttie said Feargus O'CoWoiS . ) at his ?** U Hag-house , No . 5 , Markst-atreet , Briggate ; ' internal C * mmunicatfon exiating between tllfl ^ No . 5 , Market-street , and the said Noa . ; : * & I 13 , Market-street , Briggate , thus ^^^ JiS ' whola of the said Psiattag sud PoWishiDg 0 ™» one Premises . ' I All ComniunicaUona must be addressed , Post-psJ * * U Mr . HOMKKC , Northern Slar Office , Lceda . £ f S ^ rurday , Marcli 11 / 1813- ) ^
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Northern Star (1837-1852), March 11, 1843, page 8, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct472/page/8/
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