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rpHE great object of Medicine ehould be to assist X Nature , and not to impede her beneficial operatieps . When diseased action of the system commences , fronv that moment a struggle i ? begun—Niture endeavouring to regain her lost sway . A Medicine to be truly bbneficial should be one that acts upon the secretory Organs , and by thw means enter the circulating Blosd . Dr . HAMILTON'S VITAL PILLS are found to act in acco . rdanco with this ,, and in a way that no other medicine was ever known to do . Incurable patients ( so called ) direct your attention to this wonder working medicine , and you will have more cause to rejoice than if a kingdom was offered foe your acceptance .
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np HE ENGLISH CHAUTIST CIRCULAR , JL Now Publishing , Price One Halfpenny each , in which is given a Series of Letters bv Feargus O'Connor , Esq ., on the Effects of Machinery , direct and indirect . ¦ : . "Let me recommend a plan for increasing the circulation of the Chautist Circular . Suppose , then , each Subscriber should canvass for one pur * chaser ; and- where is the man so destitute of influence , who ha-s not one halfpenny fneni ^ in the world ? By this mode the circulation would be doubled in biie week . "
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SUMMER CONVEYANCE . ¦ '¦ ¦' " ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ' I A NEW COACHi called THE PACKET , has commenced Running from the Saddle Inn , Briggate , EVERY MORNING ( Sunday excepted ) , at a Quarter before Seven o'clock , TO SELBY , to meet , the Sieam Packets for Booth Ferry , Howden Dike , Goole , and Hull , from whence Passengers are conyeyed by Coaches and Packets to Burlington , Scarbro ' , Hornsea , Grimsby , CleathQrps , Yarmouth , London , &c The diversified and picturesque scenery , which constantly presents itself to tha traveller by this route , both on the land and during his progress down the ever-winding Ouse to the more majestic
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- SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR MR . OASTLER . AT a Meeting of the Friends of Mr . Richard : Oastlhr , held at Scarborough ' s Hotel , Leeds , on Saturday Evening , April 23 rd , 1842 , -. It was unanimously resolved , That- this Meeting considers it desirable that a Subscription should be forthwith commenced among the Friends of Mr . Richard Oastler , resident in Lseds and the Neighbourhood , upon the basis of the Subscription originated among the Friends of that Gentleman in London ; yet subject to tho ultimate control of the local Subscribers as to its Final Appropriation . That the Friends of Mr . Oastler are hereby requested to mset on Monday . Evening , the 9 th . of Mat , 1842 , at Half-past Seven o'clock , at Mr . Chakljes Smith ' s , the Commercial Hotel , Upper Albion-Street ,, Leeds , in order to appoint a Committee and to commence the Subscription .
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NOTICE TO EMIGRANTS . rpHE followiu ^ splendid Ships will be despatched X punctually as announced . They are all fiited up . expressly for the comfortable accommbdatioa of Cabin ,. Sacoud Cabin , and Steerage Passengers , and are nct'surpasscd . if equalled , by any other Ships in tlie trade . The charge for Passage has been considerably reduced .
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ZiEEDS , —The Association is rising rapidly in numbers , and --although a good many of its members areout of employ merit , it hag been ¦ .. enabled with a little assistance from Churwoll , Wonky , r ; iid'Woodhouse , to send its liroport-iouak-s'ia-re to tSieConveiitiou , lor the uieiabers . O . i iiun < iay last , the Council voted 10-., in answer to the appeal of the Convention h't week ; 2 s .: G £ . wari sent a week or two ago by Mr . Garbutt , who had collected'it for that pvirpotio The Association has cf la ! o turned its Ettenfciou more to local affairs than they hays done before ; the - . Chartists now take a ' prorainont part in every meeting , both 3 oc < il and national , that takes make
place in the town , and in order that they may air attack on Whiggif-m and Toryism in the Council , on the 1 st Nov . next , lot every , working man who is qualified , claim to bo put eri thci burgess list . To bo successful , it ! only requires that every ono do this—Jet the Councils of Kolbec ! -:, Hunslct , and Wcodhouse , i take tho matter up at once , aud be really determined to win , and nothing can prevent them . In order to carry it out more successfully , a central committee should be appointed in the town , comprising men . from every Dart of tUe Borough . Let tho Chartists see to . it . Tiie Council would respetfuliy request that a larger uumbor of members attend on Monday nights .
BRABPORD . t-Deleqate Meeting— In accordance with the announcement iu the . Star , a mcating of delegates from tho several districts o ' i the West-Riding , was held in the Chartist room . Bradford , on Sunday , May 1 st , at ten o ' clock , delegates present from Bradford , Mr . Fletcher ; . Bingley , Mr . Firth ; Dewsbury , Mr . Wilson ; Leeds , Mr .. traser . Mr . Frascr being called tothe chair , Mr . Fletcher was appointed secretary . After a lengthened conversation it was deemed very advisable that a District Union should be formed for t ! ic purpose of supporting permanent lectures , and to forward this view the following resolutions were agreed to : —
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' ¦ ' That a central committee be resolved upon ^ to consist dfdelegatee from each of the districts in the West-Riding , wishing to co-operate in the support of district lecturers , one delegate to bo sent from each district . " " That this committee assemble quarterly , and that the district sc'cretary hare a discretionary power to call special meetings in casrs of emergency . " "That Bradford being the most central position , be the general place of meeting . ?' " That Mr . Fletcher , delegate from Bradford , be appointed secretary for the union until next meeting , which will be holdcn on the 29 th May , afc ten o'clock , in the Association Room ? , Bradford . There being so few delegates present , it was not thought advisable to enter into any arrangements regarding the appointment of lecturers . But as it will be
evident how advantageous such a mode of employing lecturers would be ; to the spread of our glorious pTJncipleSj wo press upon the attention of our brother Chartists the resolutions we agreed to ; and trust they will send delegates to the next meeting , on Sunday ,, the 29 th of May ; and we also particularly fc-qnest the Councils of the different Associations to Correspond with the Secretary upon the matter . Remember , brethren , all wo have now to depend upon is the wide dissemination of our principles to ensure success ; then be up and doing ; da not , we beseech you , Jet this important union be destroyed . Remember , in union lies our strergth and importance . You are requested to correspond with Mr . G . Fletcher at Mr . Aldcrson ' s .,, 'Bahkstreet , Bradford . .- *
Coalbrookdale . —Mr . Halford lectured . to a large ont-door meeting on Monday last . Sgferal cards wu * e taken . They will hold other O ! jt .- < loor meetings in the neighbourhood shortly , aiictwill be ready to sell more cards . RoTfiERHAM . ~ The cixisc in this place is continually gaining ground . Mr . T . B . Smith visited us on Tuesday evening , and delivered a powerful and eloqucut lecture , in which he discussed , in a clear and lucid manner , the whole cf the points of the Charter . Numbers aro continually coming to join our ranks .
Convention . At the Convention sitting , on Thiirst'a-y , an ad < Jre ? s ( o the country , a remonstrance to the House of Commons , and a memorial to the Qricnn , were adopted . A vote of thanks was given lo Mr . Duncan , as chainrr . m , Mr . Leach , as vicechairman , and Mr . Campbell , as secretary . Tho address , memorial , and remonstrance , will appear in next Star , BARNStEr .. —The cause of human improvement has received sotno additional impetus during the past week by the labours of Mr . T . B . Smith , who ha . ? boon with us delivcr : n £ ; lectures on various important &ubj ? cts . Oii Satin-day evening , wo had a liond incoting in the Odd Fellows' School Room , to hoar a lecture on teetotali ^ r . i , nnd tho claims of the National anti-Tobacco and Temperance Society . The address was clear , and full of sound argument , and appeared ti civo very general
satisfaction . On Sunday afternoon , Mr . Smith preached on tho Bareboiiee , to more than ono thousand persons , and in the evening , in the O . 'ld Fellows' School Room . Ou Monday evening , the subject was a fuii , fair , s : irt free representation of the peoplo in Parliament , which was handled in tho most clear and satisfactory « uu \ ner , and rivited the attention of the audiejico for nearly two hours . At the close of the Icrtare Mr . Frank Mir field , in a speech repleto with good sense and manly feeling , moved the followi » g resolution , " That this meeting is resolved to go for nothing short of the whole Charter , name and all , and as Jong as our leaders act honestly and stand by us , we will stand by them . " Thanks were then voted t . > Mr . S . for his valuable service . " , and tho masting separated . Mr . Smith enrolled four persons as members of the National Anti-Tobacco and Temperance Association .
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Bkadford JIaekkts , Thursday , May 5 tii . — Wool . —Tho Wool trado is aUogetrier of a monotonous character , owing to the unwillingness of the spinners to purchase , except at rates which the staplers cannot replace : the latt .-r hava beea equally . cautioiiB in their operations , aud t , hc stock ia the market is by no means so cen ~ idcrabio as it was a few weeks back ; nor is it probable that any material quantity , will bs brought to market till shear day , and till the price 3 of new . Wools bo established . — —Yarn—Although , wo cannot report any decided improvement , in the demand for Yarns , yet quite as much is doiag as has been for several weeks back . We aro glad to
hear that more is required by the Delaine -makera . In prices no marked alteration . —Piece—During the week we learn that considerable quantities of goods have been taken out of the market , and chiefly those of our staple manufacture , the Merino . We believe these are for the American marked , for which but few have been sold of late , compared with former years . We would hppa now that the season is at hand when both the exporters and home merchants usually make their purchases , that wo may bo able to report more extensive doings , and if any advantage is ; derivable from tho new tariff and tlie continued iino weather , that our operatives may feel the good effect of it .
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. SuBSCBiprioNS for the wounded and damage done ai the Hall of Science , Manchester , received by Mr Abel Heywood : — ¦ ' ¦ '¦ . - /¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ . - ' ¦ . - . ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ¦ ' ¦ ¦• - ¦ ¦ ¦ . ; ¦ £ a . d . Aston-st . Association Room , Birmingham 0 7 9 Association , Northampton ... ¦•¦ 10 2 Abergavenny Association ... ... 0 5 0 Mansfield Association , per John Lymv ... 1 0 0 Suttoh-in-Ashfield Asssociation ... ... 0 12 0 Oldham Chartists , Mr . J . Dunkeriy ... 0 6 0 Charter Association , Rooden-lane ... 0 2 6 Chartist ' s , Pitsford , Northampton ... 0 7 4 W « lliBgborbngh , Mr . Edward Hall ... 060 Skegby , near Mansfield ... ... ... 0 3 0 Sheffield and two or three other places , per Mr . Julian Harney .. ^ ... ... 1 17 0 £ 8 6 9
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. O'CONNOR , Esq ., of Hammersmith , County Middlesex , by JOSHUA HOBSON , at his -Print-* ing OffleesT Nes . 12 and 13 , Marhet-street , Briggate ; and Published by the said Joshua Hobsqn , { for the said Feargus O'Connoe , ) at his Dwelling-house , No . 5 , Market-street , Briggate ; an internal Communication existing between the Baid No . 5 , Maiketrstteet , and the said Nos , 12 and . 13 , MRrket-street , Briggate , thus constitating the whole of the said Printing and Publishing Office . one Premises . All Communications must be addressed , ( Post-paid ) to HOBSON , Northern Star Office , Iieeds . Saturday , May T , 1842 .
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IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT . —Tuesbay . ( Continued from our fifth page . J Lord J . RUSSELL . —Considering the importance of the pciki' -n present-d to the " house and the £ reat nutnb-r <¦? -Ignatjres attached , I could not abandon c ? . y duty by not coming dowa to the house for the purpose of expressing my respect for the petitioners , ar ; d at the same time dvclarmg iny abhoircace of the cfo ^ trlnjis set forth in the ptiition . Ik :: ins , however , in the outset at once meet a charge which has , I r ' nink mor : nr / airly , been imputed to those yrho are prepaivd to Tote against tha present mo ; ion . I deny that I and others who sro r-psosed to is are a : aena- " ile ta the charge of wsvi u . " . ^' avjathy w ; th the su ^ sria ^ and privatioi ;> = irie ArcrkJag classes . ( . Hear , hear . ) Wcknowb ^ r maEV
thcu-E 2 nds of our feilowcoumryzr . en are su-jeered to t !« ^ - " - ^ ^ - Ttr ^ pr . vation 3 . We feel ctaapasiion fur tLe : r suSenngs , and at the same tim-3 v » * e a-Jmiro the fortUuie aad forbearance with ¦ which those -suIKtiegs are endured . ( Chec-rs ) But when wo are as £ ed to € oh : 3 ?' t with tha motkn , it sc-cms to be taken for grafted and n ? STi =: ; d that we can thereby Tellere the distress . This , howeveT , I mast be penaitted to ceny . Jly right hon . friend rear nje has met- the jjnrstion on that ground . Thu hon . monitor fur lSs .- . h said , thar if the inrnnrions of the country wsre brought nr . dcr discussion , the honse "would be enabled to see whas alterations could oe made in ih-m f . jr . 'he purpose ofin ? ur ! n ^ ^ -jod « oyer ^ pient . That rany ir may no : be - ii ' . subj-. ct for inqairy , but is ; is in the firs : instance the du : _ v of t . ^ . e Legislature to see Tr > iat , would be the effect of such a
course . If ar > inquiry is to be entered into with respect to all ih ? . existing insiitxitions of the couafry , hovv E 2 ~ y rre-t qac ^; io .: i > w-: u ! d be throwa l-joscrr abrfiiiT Aii V-. q-vry vriV : be raised as to waeiher faiih j * "iO- ;" -i be preserved for tie public creditor . . Ai ; siD . q ; --rio : is would be put as to the Ti : ; hi ot proper : r in izvA , arid wilh respect to other Ja . > t : ta-X oc 3 whica are cow loci-ed upon as inTiolablc . Hare not those , theu . who are opposed to the tnoiioa good ground -o ar ^ ue a gainst the danger of throwing the ancient asd TeaerabJe laititatjons of ih ? . c . ov . nrrv
into qn ; sfon i ( . Hear , hear . ) Tr : e result or such a course wc-uld be to transrer t ' . is t rcat carital ol Gr ? J . X Britain : u : o o : her c uu ; r : e 5 , and by tiiiniiushin ^ the fa ^ ds 'rozi which hl-our is supplied , to throw the vr- ? tkips classes ir . tjaslill worse condition than that : i which thfj are at prese ; - ? placed . Under -tae ^ t ; circ :: nis * . aaces , then , whether Hoe . Gentlemen vote ior or a « T 3 mst the inoiioc , they shonld be e- ~ -. ceiled as vrillir ^ to ester into a consideraii ^ n n ? -bs j which was i-:: for : he fiood of thv -woriing c : a ; se =. My Righrli :-zi . Friend tie H ; snhzr for Edi ^ bcrga has pointed to that passage in the petition wiiien dec ar : s that the debt had been imposed npc-n the eoL-ut . -y by person- , who had r . o runs t-o iiBpose it . He also showed that the petirioners couir-12 'n c : pay ? - ;!? taxes to meet th ^ : rr . ' mi of iliat debt , uud of the e 5 : J : er : c _ - of prop-: ny in lan-i and machinery , which thej-.-tv .-e mczicvoiits . It has been s : < 5 d that my ri ^ hr H " o : i . Fritn ' l , in taking 'V- o ; :-irs--=, made v » t-j" 5 : alleg . v : ?;^ a ^ atast the vzo ' : * . 1 deny that " he accused the pcv ' . le of any kirtnr t-j ¦ p ' . ^ . v . d ^ T . The 4 oa . ati i Lcar ::.-d M ^ sber i-. r Bv . h . usefully -p-: r :: ap 5 for hi-- ovrn zxzuvz-sT .: , tit u- -r . very fairly as regards mj Rizh : Hon . F : i-r : a , cail : d this a tmnaprry petitior .. drawn up by a pfrs ~ n v .-homLestyI-: d , 1 tnnik . a tr . a ' i ^ : ; - "" ; ' . &td covrardiy ccrcasoiitie . Oir . H . a-sen-ed ) h was inthe ? -3 T . cr-ds : hii the Hoz . Gentleman Oc ^ cri ' ied theptirp-r : of :: ; o periilon ai . i the character of its autior . iiis I : a tiz ihpn hircs : ! f made ati a- ^ cu-itiou acainst the 3 . 300 XiOO persons who s-trucd the petitica . Trhic ! : h 5 ibu » desvnb-r-s a ; a pa , try one , drij-2 _ i : p by a < » :-- . T 2 rdIy and raaJrv . aai ;! . nenni"irus-If tii 3 n ; n . m-: inb : r denies that he has dGLo -3 . how can he 2 c ? - ; -s . my honourable fr " - _ rid of a > perrii' 4 tne pent : oritr < 2 Yiy horj . fri-:-. J . siid - ] , at the petr .: on ^ cont ^ imd cer ; aiu 3 . ' ileczzz-:-n ~ . Thf ? t * : e Iirn . mernb-r for Bath ainiittd , but h ^ = aiJ . kt us il . xcw V- ^ pi asice . Now . rn i .-ht not the pc-rsor . s who-w . re r ^ M- - " ii intotho ^ pr - nc ; :- _ , ' their s ^ natTires : o = uoha s =-ti :: c-n ce cq ~ 2 .. L \ - ^ :: j ; lj i ~ the cLj : re cl ' ihe p- ' .-i ^ s whori ther "w :--: ; _ i rm as their r ; pr s-r ^ a iv s to ihv House I aLi Hv .:. andLear ; rd fc ; ucr ? ::: i --= ; n . ; W
m Eaou-. ra ? : ! nt-5 we were sri - rp : < ed to LaY 3-raa : catiun ii :-ten i cf a : herin ^ to the an ei- ' -nt n > ¦>•;¦ :. of takir . ^ r the vjio : r > to inrrketp : ac- . . ijtV-Tcr . -. thinkita 5 sdc : rabiecoEir : v ? riP : ; ent ir " . in tac- c ..- "ce of rbeir r » "r-:-. « ' ? r . i ^ tire-. th-.-people cin he so d-: eeiTed as to rivs rh'ir ? -, Sia ; : < : = in . favour o : a p . r .-on such ss the lion , iir ^ jber ' fur Bath de ' scr ;•"¦ : ¦•; t " :: e frasier c-J the petit :: n to be , it Trocld be crrj-a ^ iiro f&ct tho dv ^ rv . ? : Gn di prirate prop--: y zz . i the c-r = trac :::-n ci- ' -r iv ^^ i-itic-ti 5 it tr ; ---:- ¦; rltne tna : ibi- re .-rcc ; z-.-. r im law , which the Hoa . G-. zit . so truly pri ;; - ; u as a rh-ira-:-. r isticofour c-a :: ry £ ncE , wutild , when they were iu tire hincs of > _ :- ? fcaini ; and plundtrii : ^ " leaders
-y au o--eC : ence w . iid "wonld e-ab ¦ ¦¦> in se litter to carry qi- ' c-= rti ^ : ct ,-ly icto eiitet ; h-: ~ o r :- ~ c : la : ior . s to wh : ch the people lhcni 5 e ] -- ; = ri » " te opposed . ( L ~ ud ch-. irini' . ) It a dear t :-: :: . persoa , whoever Le rsciy i > -, bv Tvhosi the ' - z : ' .. > i h ^ been ^ ra"a up , ~; u ? d aosiv what h-Ld bc : z c ^ -ed : Le sparse to i > e ^" ati ' u ' rrll X ^ eut . Ths .: p . r .-. u ce , aicJ tha : the celt was a 2 \ ithnsl B . br . btrr . on the contraiy , so to c ^ V : it wss bat a prc : iU : ; e . end that it migti with " usticc bo swept awsy . y ^ x , f-r . x Ev par :, 1 Ulh-r- that ii yen conid tn .-her tc . * e : sc * r in ; ne mirket D-acc-sy the ad-ilt zizlr ? in the c .-izirj . auu > how " io t ! :. ; m that the cbltiration . by whica ih ? pnllic fiith was Icnnd to th ^ pr sst : t nat ' oEal ered t . r was a ie-al and ajas : c > -i- . ^' -i- ; . r .. and that , a-hr . ach ofi : woi : 'd operate with : -.: ^ i . ju ^ - ; cc atid eraeltT , lv ttu-An ^ . to ws-rit asu b ^ iiarv ? - ¦_ .:. I ? who Lad L :-h- " r : o r ^ i ^ i
upon : t as a rn in-. « t coritrrtaD . e ; ul = tstc-: jce , tho pzople —oti ^ re . . aiite the " rc-po :-iLio : i as . u : jast aad iaqnitions . ard -rovil i to a nan r ; fufe io paiticip ^ . - - ilirO ciz , l z -yJW-non . — ( laui ch ;; ri ) . Bar , they , 1-aiaror q ~ :-so c ^ niiJens that those by wno : n th-: petition ws ^ ~' - £ —_ d' n : t : ht , not be misled by the cry of the m ^ s-t-r . t -tfo the cheiee of men p ; thrir repr- > EsntatiTes vr / c , ;; irit th ? preterit ?? of th-. public ^ ood . wotild e :: ; cr upco thu : rpoliati-u of which the pccpl ^ . were hscap-iblr . I : is , thertfi-re , that I prize the iDsti ^ ticn , wh'ch I look upon as the pride of la&vleru times , which by d :-l ^ stion readers men raore cir- annsr-eCi es to i' ~ . s _ hare ' s to which power is to be in- . trusted . It is my opinion that prcpertv , int-: Ii- ge ^ ce , isd kiX-rrt-t-i ^ e , should fr . rm the qua- lS-3 a ? ion of a constituency , and ih- - , ugh I canaot undertake to ; &y th . -. t ; the present ; 3 the Tc-ry tes : which c- ; u 2-i be i-: ad , I ses ini ; r . ^ rca-er security for thecontiiiBarjce aad pr =. s _ i 73 i : on of cur in : tifat : oi ; 5 and ihs peaceful pr ^ r ess of freedom ihaii arc-sort at onc-e to the prl =-:: rle of L * i ; i ' - - £ rsal SzS . z ^ e . I am aware that : t ii a cc-ciriuo frequently tTgec , ani 1 perceive - - -Te " 1- upo :: in thr s petition , tiiVi < . verj male of a certain . a < s : a ? a riiht . al-olute aht ; hi- ' alienable , to " e . c-it a iepr- ; 5-ntaiive to t-ke hi ^ flaco among the nn-: ri-b = r 5 in thi Comicrrji' ll . u-c - f ' Par- lia | neii : 5 . ^ n ' . Sir , I ne'er couliundc-rstivii taat indefeasible ri-h : —; h ? ai ) . Ir zpzi ^ n to me that that qne 5 t 3 3 r , hkc ev-ry ethsr in the praciicalsppli- cation of politic .-, is to be settled bv tl : 4 ir : £ ti-. u : ior . s and the laws of tb ? country of . wirxh the pc-r ^ oa is a native . I see no sere riirh : Eh"t a pirsiii twi ^ 'y- oneyears cf ? . ^ e has to ektt a M . lVj r of Purl : ; - Etcnt thar ; he h 2 _ s to bs a i'lrrzitin . 1 " jic- 'tc h '; - yon raay j-n a ~ -t ; * : I say that , tT-rrac : ; it i ^ tilo " ^ - ^ a Tiiiit to sic nr > or ; a j-arr to decide the liost cotT .--: " i- cated and oQ ^ ::: qnestiotts cf p ;; porty , or that ejery inan has a r '^ it to . . xereLe ih .-juditiir iazc- tior-s , as the pc-ople did in > ome of iLn repul-. ies or antiquity—( he ^ r . he-i ) . Th ? ssth i : g ; , as it ; : pptsr . ? to me , are , -ot saricr- ^ of rinh : ; Lut if k b ; Cv the ^ r _ or d cf the people a : ssr ^ -: , if . Jr be cc .. ; cac ; ve to the right govern—er-: of the state , if it t ' .-n-d to ; he Eaia- ¦ t ^ nince of the fr ^ -clcin ar . 4 % ¦ - ¦ : '' a 73 of the p .-cph ? , that a cer ; a : n snb ; r , di 2 n : i tiui linii-ed by a ref-. rei . ee to a fixed stater j of property , d-onld have the r ? sat cf ekctir ^ ilecbcis of Parliaiaast , and if it be di .-2 fv 3 :. ti ^ - - ii 3 Jo the co ~ niy ; 3 ! . v at large that the ri-h : of snSrvzc shouli Le uruv ^ iszi , then 1 say thai on such a subject ii := cc-itifder-tit-D of the public good should proVi'L that lc- . jisiatit .-ii Eniit aercpon I ; as en every oth ? r , a .. d than no inalienable li ^ ht can bo quoted a ; -a : irt thi ; " . hich the good cf the vh-xe cenaitd—( h :-. - : ? , h . ^ r , iuri . < The lion . G :-ttki 2 an who sp . vlrs i : \ -t sari , that my Ri ^ bt Hori . Frio ii-J : hs a-sHr for Ed t : b : ir _;; i ( Mr . Mt : ? : i'ilay ) hsd pven a terrifis representivlon of the people oi £ i ; i : land—had descrJDjd tl . esa as . t ^ ii ; :- arv and as ansicus to destroy , to c ^ iniL ; : ; nt 3-.- - . cre
and : o plrnd ^ r . 2 sott , Sir , iny R ^ iit Ii :, a . irknd made no such reprcset . tatiDn " . l " vr ej err : ; p ^ rc , 1 think it is very rkely ihat ft tnzny tltcti : r . ; , e . 7 ^;; if TJidTerssi S _ ifrai . 'o wire in o-p'ration , vet v :. - ;] j £ ad that rasp , ti : i > r property , rc ^; ?^ c ; ilr uld habits , and genera : regard fi-r the tcnst ' . t-jtiou -tf th- ^ < r -i - . n--try , wcn d rr ^ , j ,-jce Tc ^ tihs uoi T ^ ry diSlr . n : I ' rcni . ihose whi .-h c ~ o produced when property is ct ; o c : the q _ uzliui-j . z : i :. i r . q ^ rzd ior the ii 3 . nehi ? - ? . Bat alihcuijn th--. might , oe gectraliy ih . 2 case , I co not ,. ibir '? tha ; in ih-s-Vr-5 £ s * srato -if pepsbr cd ; citi ; . ii —1 wiil no : := ay whether a standard of education EttS- 'ieDt ] y h : z : i cm ever be obtained among thr labouring closes—but in the present condition of the people at 2 i ; £ e , I do not think yon co-aid b % r sura tha : there E ^ l : t nor be , in a state of popular ferment on the oocisioa cf tome general ei- ^ cti 32 . Members returned to this House whose vctes iv-ottid he faxonrabla to the d-. strucrlcn cf onr institui ' ons , and would shake the security of property . ( Hear , tear . ) Sir , this constitution i =, I think , too precious ( cheers ) , and tlie arra . 3 ^ emc-nt 3 of society are at the same time too intrieaie , t-t > slhow rou to pat them to such a hazard . ( Caeers , ) I can " well beliere that m ^ t ^ 'Q ^ led States of America—the only conn try i which I ghonld at all compare with this for the en- i jojment of libtrsy and the foil fruits of ciTiiizition— ' i can weu bclitTe that in that country , where there ' . as no aonarchy , where every office is eiectire , where inere is no established church , ' where thero are no great masses yf property—TJniTersal Suffrage may be exercised without injury to order , and without danger to the gene-ji security of society . Eutin ,-this country , where there are so many institutions , \ which , while 1 beliere them to be of the utmost I Take in holding society together , are at the same ; time the possessors of great property—I speak of I each institutions a 3 the aristocracy and tie
churchand which might therefore be held out as prizes to a people in distress , I do not think it would be s : ue at one moment to destroy the existing system ot jeprcsentation , and to establish Universal buHra ^ e in-its place . ( Hear , hear . ) Acting upon these opinions , Sir , 1 cannot assent to that which the Iii ^ t Hon . Gentleman who ha 3 last spoken represents ao a simple prayer , that the petitioners should be heard at the bar . I do not so understand this qaestion . ( Hear , hear . ) I think the Hon . and Learned Member for Bath baa put it more fairly , ia saying thit it is the Charter to which you are now celled upon to say aye or no . ( Hear , hear . ) what do I find stated by the petitioners themselves ? They have sit forth at full length what they consider to i > e thvfr grievances . Do they ask for any
further 1 fi ^ lanation I Dt > they ask that counsel should co ' ir . e to yonr bar . and there detail what they t " - cl on the subject of their wrongs ! fc othing of tlie ' kind . They say , 'Your petitioners , therefore , exercising their jast constitutional right , demand , tea ; your Hon . House , to remedy so many gross and manifest evils of which your petitioners complain , do immediately , without alteration , deduction , or addition , pass i ' uto a law the document entitled 'The People's Charter , ' which embraces the repriseiita'ion of male adults . Vote by Ballot , Annual Parliaments , No Property Qualification , Payment of Members , and Equal Electoral Districts . " That language is-very p ^ aln ( Hear . hear ) , it is very explicit , but , it i ? , at the tame time , 1 must say , very peremptory . It is no , a demand to be heard at the bar .
M : \ TIIOS . BUNCOMBE—Lock at the previous par-grat > h . * Lord ' J . EUS 5 ELL . —The words are , "If your Honourable House will be pleasc-d to grant your petitioners a hearing by representatives at the bar , ycur pnkioners will be enabled to unfold a tale ^ f wicv . £ and tufferlns :, " and so forth . Well , but they follow that up immediately aherwards with the decanu I have recited . Mr . % DU-NCOMBE . —They mean if thdr first -prayer is re ^ iis d . ( Order , order . ) Lord J . RUSSELL —And they ? ay that in makirg'ihis demand they are exorcising a just and con-5 U : utional righr . ( Hear , hf 3 r . ) They may ask t 3 be a ' . ! owed a further explanation of those evils of which they contplain , but they ask it with a view of es'aMishing the Charter . Sir , 1 eauaoi bclieye th . - -. t
- ;> CLU . ii ^ cl ^ . ^^ xJQ * : ja-j w- nvu ; 'j persuade rto to gra ; : s the sii points of the Chirtt r . I i-lieu ] d £ ive niy rote , whatever . speeches may be muio ri the bar * against those proposals . ( Hear , ) I " tlier-. f-Te think myself bound at once toput an er , 'd to ute motion , p . ni having thus csplsintd my views . I will not endeavour to hide my vote by any pretence that I wi ^ h merely to hear an explanation of their demands . ( Htar , ht-ar . ) I believe it will be l : u- uettcr for : hc people , bet ' . f r for tht-ir future welfare , if you do not nu-an to grant the prayer of t-use potui ; iKrs . that you .-Louid at once de . ' -iare to them yuar iitt-f that yottr compliance with the prayer of the pet . fon wiii tend to shako property—will t-tud to nieiease the privations cf which they co : npliin—will us- ' . singe that constitution of society which , comt'l : c 3 * ed and intricate as it is , has produovi ro many rI ; -Tings to th's country ; that to y < . > u is v .::-r ; i .-t-t-d the itre-t , the ic .-ponsible , the arJnous duty ot' Icgu-litiug in behEdf of this khigd ^ ro , and tha 1 : 1 c : seharge of this common duty you r . re cKJ _; od to put a . negative on the demand of the petitioners . ( Cheers ) S : r R . PEEL—Sir , I hope I should have been exx-o-ed to no misconstruction if I bad rerudned .-ileut , y ..-i , from the coutse wkicii this debate has taken , 1 am nuvvjiiing to cxpt' / c myself t- > me hazir-i of a mLjo-u =-. ruct ; :-n , or to = uri . ' . k from tho duty of dcdiri'ig boiuiy aud decidedly my opinion on th « subject ot tai < uetiiiou . Until I heard the construction put lipjn its prayer by the Kon . G ^ i ! k : r . an ( Mr . T . J- > uncvi , ; be , we believe ) , I thought there bad besn two prr-j .-o-itioiiS to be cu ; : s ! ut . rt-d by t : ; e House , — nor quit-:- conjistent or compatible it is true , —but ftiii v't : h- " » face cf the document tliore appeared to
be two proposals . The one , that 1 s-hculJ admit the j- 'it- 'tioarra to be heard , in order tha : they might E"a : e ; i : eir Krievauces by their counsel or age :. ts-, wi . :-3 i / ie other appeared to be an imperative deirand thai I should immediately , and without cuu-.- '¦ : . r £ tion , passimo a jaw every demand that is in the ¦ Charter . Sir , I do no : want to take anj advantage f : the Charter u-r the purp-. sc of vind ; ca : iug my v , < c . 1 } th-2 question of the Ciiarter be not before u-, l isr < ady "o ^ ive my VvK- agair . s : r . caricg ine p--it'tontrs at the bar of the Hou .-c cf Cjcjiuous iu r .-i-ton of their allegitions . I th-ali give this vot-e en various » ionnd 3 . Fir ^ t , I am satisfied that I e " -TLi , c-t be conduced cf the policy of acceding to the mv-r <; f this petition . I corne to the conclusion to
' / r .-: h : he Hon . Menib ^ r for Leicester Las already ct ^ i , —t " : e foregone concjusiou , that those demands . i : crnplic-d with , would be mischievous to the pf . iti * - .:: « : rs then-. Ti-ives ; and having ccko to that conchi ; :. 3 , 1 tLiiik it more y ^ st aud iacro r € 5 pect- ul tu ten ihtm that I do not intend to accede to their pc . i * " ii-.-. i , il . in i-j g ' . ve then > a delusive hcaiing , which I ku-. ' ' .. c . ii ; hive-iio U : tttul result —( htar , hcai ) . Why , Sir , * . vhat uo . s the lioi ; . Member for finsbury the c / Jeagiie of the Hon . Gentleman , tell mt ! Th * t oa the rc-iLii o : my di-c : ~ : cn with re-pect to the htariut ; ot" the pti : t . < -u » : ro will depend cith-: r awakened hope cr f : a--fui despondency . Well , I will not c . wahc . i hi- ;» ft by ccuiiie ^ aiicing expectations which I kn-.-w rs ! i < : end in disappointment —( hear , hear ) . The lion . Geutkinan says be wishes to pledge niu to hothii % , ];¦ : on-y w : ? he > me to hear the gnevauces detailed . i " ut he risks me to hear the allegations of
a « 1 £ > : r t s c c tne petincters , and those allegations are neither re ore or 1-. S-3 th ^ ii an impeaehment of the whole cjiibtttuaon ui this country , aiid the who ' e fr ? n : e of soc ' teiy . Thip-l ' rion toils mo that it is wroug to E " r . t .-uln Lr . E-tabliihcd Church—u E 3 js t ' lil i ; . Oy- " ' . > - , . ' . ' •¦; " ir . oney are annually abstracted from * n-j peopie f-. r the purpose 01 maintaining thechurch . The petiiK- - ; e . ls me tiiat The people of Ireland arc entitled to : he Ilt-i-jal of the Union . The petition draws a rr . es ; isividioui coruparison between the expenc-s of th < j Sovereign and thote cf a labourer . I say the petition is a ' -together an impeachment of the constitution ot this country , aud of the whole frame of tueletv . And how -.. ra I to gratify the demands
f i i c } £ i i I t s s ' 1 j i I i ; I ' - 1 ' ¦ i ' J ] i ' - ' ' : = ^ : < '> - t i X ^ < t i of tne petitioners . I Hva . r them at the bar ! Why . ill I hear xhec-., let me hear t-t-em effectually . But " is it an effectual hcar ' n . g to permit four or five persons en their brhu-f to make tpeeches at the bar of the House ! Are those speeches to be relied upon Suppose the speeches a . the barfaikd of producing an l 3 \ c " , ana a demand were tiieu made for an inquiry , should I refuse it , or suspend the whole pub : tc bu-. tEfceS of UiG country , in order that the bulk of tb ' . sti a-iega . tOLS might be ascertained as to tho poHey of an Established Church , ? r , d a Il .-petd of the Union 1— ( hear , hear ) . Is not that the r ^ Iy t-tTcct ' _ al way in which the petitioners wculd L : vc an opportunity of explaining the . ir grievances ? ai . dis it for the advantage of tha petitioners themselves that I should suspend thepubli- ; bus ness of the c-c- ^ utry for the purpose of iuquir-; ng : r to th-U sttbj-:: 11 Whit is tho peiitiou ? if I had a dot ; bt , which I Live , not , upon this subject , rtran-e as it ttouIJ . ecm . the speech of t-lie Hon . and Learned Member for Buh would Lave convinced me thic the greatest iibsurtLiiy ever committed would be to enter into an enquiry vhh respect to » he all-vgation-i ia this p . t-tioix—a p-. tiilou wiii . h dors loi represent the =-v :: titi !( nt 5 ci those who sigiied i : — : » peihier : ihtst is m : ^ iy ot tit ::. ? : :. ' .- with the jui ^ gtccnt :..: d g-. oJij !; : eoI ' the 3 . 0 CO , Ol"U of peiti ners , hxii rrhhch has been iirspcrcd up ; -n ih ? m by a cwardly dein ^ gogue ( i-.-ud cheers ) wji ' -m tie Hon . Gentlen : an kiit-Tr ^ , tnd whe ^ e pi x ^ . n ^] knowledge M his character enti ;! uoiLlrn to spcok if him with di = re-~ pi . it and Cv ; itcxi > p ' . ( Lcud cheer ?) I take the description cf the pi . Litl .-n fromtl . e Hon . and Learnel -Gentle innn bintS-1 ., and could I z laiii tie fraraer of this petition , a per ^ vn so dcscribv- 'd by tha Hou . mid Learned Genl ^ rjas—a m : m who ha ^ perv . rttd to his own evil purposes the mludt of th- , ; r-. ^ pcclnblc lUle . ii ^ jLi , i ^ cinstrtc : ;; . ?; one . 5 t ] abouf ; ij . g c ^ assi-o < jf i . its c ; -cntry , to the bur ot' ihishouse , for he no doubt vnll h j tht ,- periuii selected 10 dei '^ ud the a'Ji-gations of vJi * traihy peuii . n which he his drawu up , ( theers ) without bs ' :: g a . ptn-y to the voriiinu- 'nce oi that delusion ur . der v . h-ch they labour ? ( Loud
i : i i - ibat the Ho : ; . Member fcr Fin : bury Lilted me to go , fiudtha ailegations of the petition have teen li ^ orits-¦ edby the Ht-n . Member for Bath . WLtn I lei . r to ihe praytr cf fhc p . t : iioii , when I refer to the cha- racter vi" h : m who is said to bo > Hi author , wl . a I jcier to -he c-rtaiu cottsrqueitces < f ra : htg e ? . \> ciati _ : is when I know I must v 3-. ?? . ?; . ¦¦ :-nu , 1 xnust tay i ' t ^;^ k I am acti"g nts . e respeetfu ; Y aui more justly tivprus ^ t . rj petittc ; . -fj ia refusing at o : ic-j to zccccz to thctr ticmands , than by giviug . trura a delustr ; heating at the bar , and ai ' ter-, var- _ s iei : i-g th . m they h : Te made no ict ^ -icn v . haicv ^ v . 011 my rr . bd . ( Loud ch ^ i s . ) The 11-j-. and Leaned .-liizli-: : r Bxth lias described the character of tiie , P ? aplc- oi England . He said that in other counuie-. ' 01 Europe tha appeal w ^ s to force , while in thi > . country the- appeal wa 3 to law . Ho s ^ id the labour- ! : ci ; chu ? cs _ p' ^ ee ? , e l tho physical force , which if . they were i-ciincd to enforce it would overpower : every opposition ; but , they were controlled by their ¦ gooct ssuse and by their willing obedience to the law , ; or wn ; ch they entertaice-d respect . Tha Hon . and I Learned Grntkman pointed to the decrepit constable \ <; - < ' ; ng Into : hs midst of a crowd and seiz . ng a power- ! ful man ; tlu oScer of the law was unresisted : and ' akhongh his prisoner wa « a person of much superior j strength , he evinced a willing submission to authority , and the people by whoa he was surrounded offered i no opposition ; but what nerved the arms of tho con-1 stable ? Why it was the tacit influence of the law , I that stood behind him . ( Cheers . ) And what Lad j given that influence to the law ? What but the con- ! victioii tbat it was just ? ( Loud cbeera . ) Do you j believe that if the people of this country were in the ! condition described in this memorial , which declares ' that " this House has by unconstitutional means 1 created an , unbearable despotism on the one hand , and a degrading slavery on the othur "—if that was al just representation of the p = t > ple and the constitution cf England , wouM that law which backs the decrepit constable possess the authority and influence it now exercises ? ( Loud cheers . ) Do you bank the peopls , of whom the Hon . and Learned . ; , ; ¦ i I ! I i i ] ! i ! j j 1
Member has given such a description , weuld have that respect for the la ^ v they now entertain , if they did not feel that that law which guarantees property , which secures liberty , is a law equally for the rich and the poor 1 ' ( Cheers . ) What description was given of tha people of England by tho other Hon ; Member for Finsbury ! He eaid , " 1 have travelled through various parts of Europe ; I have had opportunities of observing the condition of the labouring classes abroad , and comparing ii with our home population , and I defy you to find a more intelligent , a more prudeut , a raore independent , or a more high spirited race of people than the people of England . " I grant it : but I ask him what has formed their character \ ( Cheer ? . ) Is it to tho bricks and stones
of their houses that we must attribute their character ! No , it is to the laws and institutions of a free country . ( Cheer ? . ) The high-minded independent character of which the Hon . and Learned Gentleman spoke has been formed under those laws and institutions of which this petition contains tho impeachment . ( Cheers . ) And if it were true that we lived in a state of despotism on the one hand , or degrading slavery 0 . 1 tha other , the peoplo of th ; s country would never have the respect for authority , nor would they deserve the character whi ^ h tho Hon . and Learned Geutlemen has given them . ( Loud cheers . ) I did not understand the Ri ^ ht Horn Member for Edinburgh to state tlat the peoplo of this country were of a sanguinary disposition : and
that if we admitted them to power , spoliation of property would be the result , but , that there would be great danger if they consented to the prayer of this petition , so prepared by a designing aud cowardly demagogue , adopting the description of the Hon . and Learned Gentleman —( cheers ;)—or , if this bo a libel upon the petitioners , how can the Hon . and Learned G-. ntleman maintain thao those who have been parties to a pctititm so full of trash aud delusion , mi-ht net in other instances ; fall victims to other designing demagogue ? , who may say to them , '' iS ' ow you : ' . re possessed of power , now you have the m-raus of exercising it , and you are a degraded and cowardly rac ? if you do not enforce your own terms ?" ( Cheer ;! . ) I do not believe they would at once vicld
to such delusions ; but what security can the Hon . and Learned Gentleman give- , that having been deluded 0 : 1 c- " , the petitioners wmild not be deluded siskin ! ( Gieer : ) I understand the Right lkn . Member for Edinburgh to argue that it' you make an ahera : io ! i in ycur constitution upon principles like these Ja > d doivn m this petition—if you think that public faith ouuhs no : to be maintained , and that the public ereJi : or should not be paid , because debts were iiicunv- 'l by Parliament without due authority for the support of wars which were unjust—if you think that iand ia a monopoly—if you think that machinery i .--, a monopoly , you will be exciting hopes and i-xj ^ ciarions which you cannot realise without leading to confusion , and which you cannot disappoint
without danger . I micier-.-uoo'J h'tn to argue that anarchy andcu : sfu-ion muFt arise from that state of things , because tfnre Wi . uld be no security faf property ; and that , hi fact , uncertainty and spoliation cf " property must n * .-c «> s . irily arise . ( Cheers . ) But I did not understand him to affirm of the people of England t ! : a they were of a sanguinary and barbarous disposition , nnd inclined to possess themselves of the property of oth t ? . ( Cheers . ) On account , then , of the delusion which must arise from granting tho prater of the petition , I cannot accede to this motion . It 1 am told that tho Charter is involved—if I am now deciding tho question of "Universal Suffrage , Annual Parliaments , and Vote by Ballot , 1 am cont ; nt to rest the isMic upen that ground aLo . I
believe that Uijivt rsal Suffrage will be incompatible with thu nninteuance of the mixed "monarchy under wiiich we live—I believo that mixed monarchy is impor : ant in respect to the end which is to be achieved rather than in resp : ct to the means by which it is gained—mat e :: d I understand to be the promotion of th . R happir . ess of the pe . tple ; but iu a country cirpumsiar . tcd like this , I will not consent to substitute mere democracy for that mixed fonti of cov ' .-run ;_ nt under which we live , and which , imperfect us ii may be , has E' -cured fcr us curing 130 years n . iore of practical happiness and of true liberty than has been enjoyed in any oilier country thai ever existed , not excepting the United S ' ates of America .
uoi exec-piirig any other country whatever . ( Chevr .-i . ) We may be sufll-ring severe privation . I den p ly regret it , I sympathise with the fufferers , I admiro tneir fortitude . I respect their pjt : < ncc , but I will uot consent to make these momentous changes in the constitution , with the certainty that I filial ! a fiord no relief to the present privation and fuffeving , with the certainty thut I ? : ; aii only incur the ri ^ k of destroyiig that constitution , which , I believe , if you will permit it toremrin untouched , ¦ will secure to yonr ce-eenciantsas it .-mired to you and yojir ' anc-i .-rJi-r .-, ih-ie bler-.-. in . i-s which you never find in r , i : y ranh or precipitate change ? , however p ] au .= ib ; o in speculation they may appear to be . ( Loud aud contiuued p ' . 'j ^ ers . )
Mr . MACAULAY desired to sny two words of csplr . r ; Ltion in reference to tho winter just advtriod tt > by tho Right Hon . Bironst . Ho denied moiri dislir . ctiy ihst any expre-sions iniputing cruelty or . a sanguinary deposition to the peewit of EnglanJ , or nnyih ' . utf whatever of ihil r . zturr , Lad ever ps ? scd liio !•{> =. ' Htar , hear . ) His-argument had not "led to anything of that sort , arid Jio appealed , to he memory t-fewry gentlvinan present , vrhcther ho had drawn any para !! . 1 with the cruelty cf tho French rt-v 6 hjt . oi ! " ov had civ 111 uUt-rEuce to a ; . y expression of that nature ? He mo . de no &uch alhisiyn wi . atever . ( Hear , hear . )
Mr . MUNTZ said , that as the deba ' o bad taken such a pcculi-ir turn , in eou : t que-ucc 0 ! the constnict : on put i ; T-: n the motive ; of those who might vote for the preK-nt motion , he felt called upon to explain the reason ' . vliy-h ? sLculd vole in its favour . It' was the same rua .-on u : at , induced him to vote for the motion of the Hon . Memb . r fv > r Rochdale the other evening , ile should vote fur the motion simply on ihe ground of ii . quiry . When ho looked around him nad tasT thousands of his fellow countrymen starving ftom the want of tho necessaries oflife , and frera the want oilabour to procure tho = c necessaries
and when he found 3 , 1 ) 00 , 000 of the people appealing to than house to bs heard ou tho subject , he could not make up his raiud to r .-jtct the prayer of the petition . 3 , < . 00 , 0 i ) 0 of his starving fellow-countrymen was a v .- ; st numbor ; and though ho believed with the Right Hon . Baronet opposite that there were many desires expressed iu the petition which Would never realize the hopes of the petitioners , or conduce to the good of the nation , yet ho could not make up his mind to reject ihr prayer ihat . the petitioners might be heard . Mr . USW ALD opposed the motion , on the ground that if carrie-d , it would delude the people , and buoy them r . p with la ! .-e hopes . J \ ir . C . V 1 LLIERS said that many Members of that Hou ?? , when addressing tho populace or . thtir cont . tiiuent ? , mado a ^ ainet tho House ¦ much the same accusation a ? was contained in tho allegations tf the petition . They endeavoured to bring it inlo discredit-, charged it " with legislating for a class , and said there was i > o hope for the p . eoj / c with :.-. ' .: a r . c ' . v reproRenfation . He would remind the Hon . Member Sir Lanibeth ibat hs hnd held ihat language . ( Hear , hear . ) He ( Mr . Villieri ) b-ad uot made nse of > his language , though it was tho co'nsianc rr _ . cticu of many gcntleinen who agitated on the C'jrn Laws to S 3 y lhA it was idle to attempt i'iy altera ion , p . ;; d that the r . al question W .. 3 the ivi-fr-rm of the House . And now tho ptop ! u took them :. t their words , was it fair that tin y should be { a ; if-ri epoiiat-. irs and described * as bcii );; unworthy cf the franchise ! ( Hear , luar . ) This he thought w . s > - coudnci raore shabby and delusive than tho pre . si / . it , n > otion . He was not dispDiud 10 deny luatiy fhij . 'gs he had heard in the course oi the discusiivJi wnh . retpect to the consequences of extending tl ^ SufiVa ^ p , but-when they fat in that House abusing each G * s , U'jr , and i ; : iputiEg bad motives to each other , it-was noi nrpTtein- ; thas the people believed them at last . ( lic ^ r , and laughtov . ) He had rcr . Je a similar niction to the present on tho subject of the corn laws , mid if it had not been ii
; Atjt . ^;/* . u , ; u ^ 'j * ^ j iiuoiij ^ v . u . averted . He did not t-cc why tho petitioners in the present case should no : bo hrard . Such a pro-\ c-eeuiug , without producing a sudden charge in thu ; r . nii-. stuttLtivo system , might L'ad to a progressive alteration . Though niDny o ; the objects of the potition-. rs might bo characterized as cbjt'Ctioiuible , tliis was no i-- _ a- sr-a why tho pet . turners phouid not be heard , us . d lie reminded the Right Ho : i . Baronet opposite that he could r . ot himself concur in all tho op'iiioiis of his own support , rs ; ajid in prouf of this t ; atenient ho need only rcier to trio opinions entertained by Siiuid Hou . Gent ! euii . n opposite ou tho-subject oi ' U : ai ; gclojges . Lc-ra CLEMENTS said , that as no person coni : ee : eu with Irulaml had addressed the House , uu'i as ihe - ? ubj . ; Ci oi" tne Tepeal of the- u ; , ivn was mixed up with oiiier topics iu the petition , he b ggcU to Bay a lew words in reference to t :: at point . The Iriili were not very much accustomed to meet with the sympathy of the people of Eugiaud , and he confessed for ouc , he was not prepared to be made a , cat ' s paw 0 : 1 the present occasion . Tho repeal of the union might be a subject worthy ol discussion in itself . He diel not preteiiu to say that he waa himself au advocate for that measure . But , however that subject nsii . iit t-e brought forward , this was not the manner in which , h was to como before tVie House . It" the poorer classes of this country felt themselves aggr . eved ict theui bring their grievances bcfo . ro Parliament ; but the people of Ireland were sufficiently strong to stand upon their own resources . He vfiehed not to be coupled up with any petition of this kind . ( Loud cries of " Divide , divide , " and great impatience manifested by the House . ) Tho Hou ^ e might be impatient , but he wished to state hia opinions on the subject . ( Cries of- " Go on , go on . ;" ' * Read , read , " and laughter . ) The people of Ireland required much improvement and much alteration iii their representative system , and in the mode of sending their Members to that House , and the sooner that subject was taken into consideration the better for Ireland , aad the community at large— ( . a laugh . ) But , at the Bame time , they perfectly differed from the prayer of this petition , which he looked upon aa only subversive of the institutious of this country , and one to which he could not give his assent—( " divide , divide . ") He trusted that the measure
with regard to Irelaad would be shortly brought before the consideration of the House , and that the Irish representative system would be cleansed fronv all the impurities to , which it was how subjectdaughter . ) He would not drtaia the House d ( . hear , and a laugh)—but he begged most distinctly to reprobate the idea of Ireland being brought forward in ' this manner to serve the purposes of curtain individuals , aud when the people of that country had not the slightest chauce ' -of ¦ ' being admitted to those privileges io which they were justly entitled . - V '' . .- ; . ; :. . ¦ ¦ .
. Mr . G'CONNELL wished to say a few . words , in order that his vote on this occasion might not be misunderstood . He should not vote for-- hearing the petitioners , br reason of whaS they had told him about the Repeal Qf the Union . Th ' at was a subject upon which his own opinion was fixed ; and he was not induced to support the motion because it was mentioned in , this-petition . In short , he did not wish to indentify himself with thJ 3 petition at all—( hc-ar , hear ) . His vote was grounded upon ! one consideration , and that was—though perhaps he might be mistaken—that ho was a decided advocate for Universal Suffrage , and that it was his opinion that every Englishman waa . entitled to be represented in that House—( hear , hear ) . If ha wanted a reason
for that opinion' it would be tho . total failure of tho Right Hon . Member tor Eiinbro ' , —( hear , and a laugh , )—who disclaimed Universal Suffrage , and condemned tho present state of Suffrage in this country . Tho Right Hon . Gentlenrian drow no lino where servitude should end , and libercy begin—( hear , hear ) . The comparison , too , raade by the Noble Lord of a man ' s claiming tz be a juryman did not apply , becauee the jury man decided on other people ' s property , whilst tho voter protected his-owj * . It' it were to gratify these petitioners to give them ahtariug under such limitations , us ike Iion . se injglit be pleased to iinptxre , he did not think it would bo 1 going too far , and ho should therefore vote for the motion .
Mr . T . DUN-COMBE , in reply , said he would promise the House that this was the last division he i-hould take oii any ; proposition . of this kind after seeing the manner in which the petitioners were about to be treated . At all events , if the iudividuals who had signed this potitioii , compiling the-greater pars of the industriousdai-ses of this country , should ever again condescend— ( hoar , ' hcar ) --to approach that . lou'o / he would-, bo- . no party 'to their degradaiioH after tho maune-r in which lie saw ikis pmuion was about to bo roccived— ' ( hear , and a laugl ;);—and he must say that if the interpretation whicli the . ' ¦ ¦ opponents or" this moaon had thought proper to put upon this petition ,, ; is being a proposition for the sweeping confiscation of property , as
tho Right Hou . Gcmkman the Member fur Edinburgh called it —( hear ) , —for the destruction of the Monarchy and the Church , and expunging the National Debt —( hoar , hear ) , —if such were thu objicis of the petitioners , or there weni any propositions of . that 'kind in ' this-petition , let n . ou their censure and iiuligtiation and abhorreii ' c ' o fail upon tho petitioners ; , but on the he-aii of him who brought it to the table of the . House- ( hear , and ku / . htcr . ) Let him be the . individual rf ? ponsibto for it —( laughtir , and cries of "No ! " - ) - Yes , ho would say that no Hon . Member of that House ought to bring up such a petition , if such were the obj-cis of it—( he ; ir , hear )';—and if ho thought-that mepotitionfcra had any such views , he would not bo the i'lciivielual to
appear at the table with their pttition—Ui 2 \? , hcar . ) Paris aud parcels of that , poliuou had been read , aud ho did not say that it lie had had the druwhig up oi it he would have framed it in its pvestui shape—( hear , hear ); thero wcro many parts of it from which-he dissented , and hn me'iitioiied that at tho bi ginning oi' the cveuing , when th . re were low Hon . Members to hear wh ; tt the petiti >> iif i-.-i c : ; ked for , although they now crime down in shoals to e ! e : ; y them a , hearing at th ir bar —( h . ' 3 . r , hear ) . Thu petitioners asked not for a sweeping confi-calion of property —( hear , hear ) . Ho 01 : ly wished that the Right Hon . Member for Edinburgh would allow them to come to the bar of that Route , working men as they were , and if he would do taut ar . < i
hear their statements , in . support of the allegations contuined iii this petition , and if they cuuid prove them by documentary ovideuco or by producing addi : ional witnesses at the bar , they would put to the blush tho Right Hon . Member for Edinburgh , Who had so libelled them ( hear , and a laugh ) ; and many , though they were not even in j > o . ss < .-sion ; of the frauchi-c , when they left the bur , ' would leave tho iinprc > 9 ioji behind themthat they ought to havq the franchise , and that that llouso would net be disgraced by Eecing one of t ? vcso men on the benches of that House—( hear , hear ) . Tho concluding paragraph of the peptiou was , ho would admit , word id Bj | thor ambiguo . ubly—( hear , hear ) . But ti-o Right Hon . : Baronet opposite moct fairly suited—Ui < - -: ' . r , htar)—^ he did not complain , of' tho opposition on i . bo other side so much as he didof thatoii hisown s : do of-the House ( hear , and laughtn ) , but tho Right Hon . JJarcnefc statoii that hv . would not tako advaataae
of t ' . e wording of the petition , if Charter \ riis not intenckt ! by the petitioners . ( Hi ^ r . ) Tiu y asftwl first lo ba h >; a . fd at' thu bati of that Huu ^ e ; and i . ilthoug'b t ! io closing pKsgrai > h vas rather ainbiguou . s , lie t ' thfcir iiie ;\ aing to be ^ that if tho House would uot hear tliom , tuen they demanded of the House to pass their Charter . But the petitioners concluded thus , " And your petitioners , desiring to promote the pwicu of the L " uit ( : ii Kingdom , —( hear , lifcar , )—security of property , and prosperity of commerce ,-. seriously and earnestly press this petition oh the attention of your honourable House . " ( Hear , hear . ) Where wus tho confiscation of propeity , tho destruction of tho monarchy , or of tho c . ' iurcii ? or Where was thti sponge , 113 he he :: rd it srud , of tha national dabt ? ( Hear , hear ) But Ui Right Hod . Barunct took -art-vantage of v . hat waa thrown out in the spcscli of the Hon . and Learned Memfeer for Bath , that this petition wr » drawn up by a malignunt and cowurdly demagogue—he believed t . hosa wcro the words of the Hon . aud Learned ?¦ ' , tniber—and said
that he wpuld name the individual if the reptilo wcro r . ot bsnea' -U his contempt . ( Hoar , hear . ) If be alluded to the individual whom he ( Mr . Duncoinbo ) suppled he "did , he had been grossly misled and imposed upon . ( Hear , hear . ) And now he would speak of the individuals who had signed the petition and those who drew it up , and would read their explanation of what they nieat : t . In the course of the winter thero wasr a differonce- of opinion between the Chartists in Scotland and the Chartists in England . A meeting took place in Glasgow , and the question was then considered
-whether there sheuld be two petitions or only one . What the Scotch Chartists objected to was the Repeal of the Union : md the mention of the English Poor Liw ; but the answer , and it was an answer to the Hon . and Leorned Member fov B * th , and to rnaiiy Hon . Gentlemen who had put ' -this false and , he must say , unjust interpretation oh this petition , was to this effect : — " Iu cosiclusion , ' ( this w ? . s a-. Ulressed to tl ' . o Scotch Chartists ) , " let it he firmly impressed on your minds that our sole objtcta in drawing up the petition hava been to draw public attention to the causa of our national embarrassment , tha ruutvy of the labouring
classes , and those tu ' jccts which deserve most unwearied attention . ' iho standard of our cause is where it was , ubdiminished in its supreme importance and Mshorn of its national iiitfivat . Brttbrctij wo sbali keep-it there ' ; ai ; l us : ; s you havo done , &nA let union , ptace , ai : d iT . er ^ y cbar ^ cteriso- cur united am ! inseparable eK'irtions in tho great cause of England , Scotland , Ireland nnd Wales . " Fivo n : > mes vreru signed to this docuniGnt . Tho mention of the last one , "John Campbell , ' excited much laughter . The Hon Member then observed , that these were tho sole individuals who drnw up ithe petition : aud no one else , he believed , hal even gsen it until it vraa in course of signature . He repeated , that he cle-eply regretted the course which the Hou . 'j w ; l 5 about to adopt . Ail he asked 011 behalf of the petitioners was . tc give them a hearing ; while , in his on ; iiiind , he felt convinced tout to admit them-within t ! .-e ; clec ' arai pale , instead cf endangering , would add stability to the properly of the country —( hoar , hear . )
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HU . DPE £ tSF 2 E £ iZ > , —A . mnsc dreadful accident occurre-d on Tu « 'r-day ! - ; st , at the mill of Messrs . Armita ^ o and Brothers , . M , i ! -brid ^ c A man of the name of Taylor , werit down , r is thodsiht , to oil tha water-wheel , when somo one in th < - n ; iil , not k-nowinfr , set the wheel in motion . The- , poor man vvaa immediately cut in twain , ami ( he two parts cut into pieces . \ Vo understand ho has buried his wife , but unfo : innately ho leaves a child to mourn his loss . STOCKPOKT — The Xkw Poor Law amd its Victims . —The Workhouse '' test of labour , " or "• labour tes- , " a » it is termed , has been applied to about 150 out-door paupers aVStoekport . Thsyhave boon placed to breaking stones , &c . two-thirds of
whom have been paid at the rate of Is . per day for Bcveu hours' labour . All the :-e however havo recently been reduced 1 ^ . a week and thri-a hours proposed to beaddc-d to-their labour . Last week tho body ' will .- , ingly-acceded . to tho gbatement , but . oV-jecte i to tho additional ' labour—nnd a deputation of-four were selected to wait upon the Board of Guardians ' and a . r&u , Q the hardship and impropriety of depriving them of the three hours during which they might probably ^ etafew peuco . extra towards the necessities of their families . The Board were infl-xtble ; a »< i tho men continued to woik the old rateof labour , seven hours . They worked up to -Saturday auernocfn at four o ' clock , but in the forenoon a war-rant had been issued against the individuals composing the work and
deputation- " ior refubin ^ ti maituam thGir families . " Their names are John Wilii-i-rnson , Jas . Goodwin , J . Barnes . and R . Hyde , till of whom have largo , families . They were taken to " Sariiors VVolls " and confined there . till Monday , when thoy wfre broui-ht before the Mayor , Tlios . \ Valaisl 6 y , Richard Sykes , James Kewtun , and Rob . t . Geo , Enquires , Mr . Wm . Vaughan appsaring for the pauper ' s , and Mr . Coppock amending on tho part of the . Board of Guarciiaus . 'ihe hearmj ; occuped tho Court a long time . It was proved that ihe defendants were paupers , and that for the six duya' work at tenpenee per diem , five days ' earnings . vcro paid , iii bread and potatoes , and the sixth , . tenpsrioo only was given them , which was all tiie cash they received
for their labour during-the week . It was admitted by two of the witnesses that complaints bavo been mado about the quality of tho b : ea , d ; and it was also admitted that more of the defendants had refused to work ^ absolutely only objecting to tho extra , three hours—the new regulation being from seven in . the mornin , i-:, till six at night ; onn hour only being allowed throughout the day ior meals , &c Mr . W . Viughau contendod that the . proceedings were arbitrary and excessive , the defendants being at work when the party obtaining the warrant swore that they wero refusing to work , and had neglected their families ! The wives stepped forward and denied that thoir husbands had neglected them . Mv . Coppock defended the proceedings . The bread ,
&c . that was given to the puuperi was as relief , not as wages ; aiul that the work allotted to them was intended as " a labour tost . " Tho new instructions had been issued by the Commissioners ; and it' the pauper refused to adhere to theta , they , by dbcliuii . g to work according to their instruction ? , refnsed to maintaiu their families . Henco thai expence wauid iall upon tho rate-payers in general . They Ua . d been ordered to work seven hours per day for six days , at tenpence per diem , which they had refused to do . The defendanfs conipJaiu-jd that they had bcea entvapped mt > the bu ^ iiitus by ti ^ Governor and Oakes ( Coppock ' s clerk ); and
denied that they hx-. I refused to work , or that they were ever given to understand that what they worked for was parochial relief . So long a ? they laboured hard for w-ha . 5 they got , they should consider the payment to ho as wages , ancl ought to bo paid in mouey . Williamson said lie had two days ' due . Tha Bench taid the defendant ' s had b ; cm suffiyfenlly punished by being coriiSned in ir . o cells Sines Saturday . They could not by law iuter-fore with thd orders of tho Coriiaiissioueri ? , and they must bo observed ; but tb . sy . Avouid take the responsibility of ordering that the paupers should not work af ' icr four o ' clock on the Saturday . ( Applause . ) They wero then set at liberty .
iiL EDS-0 n Friday week two women named Sophia ( Jut ? and Mary Ann Dunn , wero committed for three months each ( with hard labour ) to Wakefiold House of Correction , as ro « ueg and vagabond !? , for having obtained the gum of T 5 \ 6 d . in money , six yards of new flannel , and a shawl , from Mary Tiieakcr , servant to Mr . Kershaw , paiiuor , Wellington-road , under pretence of being able to " rulo her planet" and njuke her . acquainted with the secrets ot futurity , promising her ax the same time an excellent husband nnd plen ' ty-of children , who were all to do well in the world . The foolish giri found out , after repeated visits , that both mom money s-nd ' inoro goods were ' wanted t ' ian she could conveniently spare , and . faiifiyjng that she had been "done , '' she gave niibrmation to the police and caused their apprehension .
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