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      THE IRISH MOVEMENT . ( dmtinusd from our First page . ) \ n Oar liberal ccntempors-tief will ctmbtlfcES sceer and r = iiciiit all this prsparaiion ^ for war . and zsk is it int-rStri to propose any alternaUTe ? We answer . fcoL ' -sT—T = s . The FresmcmsJosmil iStcta to lau ^ h at lr ~ fi yroccefiinga , as thonRh the ia-w had net bern j outraged or Its provisions violated . ' Bat for the pro- \ Bedtimes , ' it saja In its publication of thw morning , ¦» ¦ ffe liJak the jjood folk of the Castle Trill . keep letting { t ' jeiaaiiae . ' "We can assure cur coteihrK-rsry , in solemn I ^

      BEtir-n ? jes 3 , that J * e is , and that be will find himself to tt miEtaitai . Pesce l » s its duties as -well as "war ; and wt zre irell assured that both will be attended to . The arm cf the law is long ss well a ? powerful , and it-vnT . reach these who little dre 3 & « f tbe consetparccs to "which they have raised themselves liEb " - ? . li is not only the prominent leaders in the rehrliicn that will be made to fe-el its gripe—the SEcri-t - / bettors of the treason are known , and bnt ire aic , perhaps , going too far—a few days mil' de-Tel ^ all .

      •• Ore -vford to Mr . OConcell . At the meeting at S&r- Le . " igSe 3 the Government to 20 t-i law . They accept Es cartel , and he Eusk craven before their pro"A-. Ljsn > Gre he rene ^ eS his defiance , and threatened the conctry -with an outbreak In the event of Mb being ¦ C as : i : n j . raon" Tcss , ther , hB h ^ a defied tb = ai to law , and thi . ¦> - . _ - «¦ ¦« thfed -with eonsf quencri How be * h * K me * let l -1 strp is on record . There is n-j liccbt he "will be ii- r- ^ t- iha opportunity of the second ; and may yet t * x- ^ c ^ d in the position of becoming—a martyrJ ! / " - Iz rcla ion to the " offer" of the 20 , 0-0 "Hmo-Terl ^ n - ro-ps , " thus pompously eel i < rth by the Mail ihe h : i in Monitor ias the loilowh . £ ;—"" iVVbave at present about 24 uoo resular troops In lrJas . J , with a "well- drilled and o ^ pi ^ ed ConstEisa ' "' - * -xe of S . OO 0 ifFscUve men , in . ku > 2 a total of

      " Tu- 7 ^ : h . Be ? im 5 ct , from Portaia-min . arrived in this dij en JriGay night Fob ? fc-rtaHons of the Q-.-z-. s ne ul ~ o . it is raid , in Tead i ;? ss for service in 7 rptt <¦ : _• i-i not ^ aixsEad- *» Uli tbv » - ^ -o rince already Ini £ ~ c .. 'ar . trj » . and "with the availaoJ- force that is in Eti > r- ^ .. tbe Pef-1 GoTcmment , aw-.-diae t <» theifaji , ba'Vr > -5 V £ lc-l stacxrsiyjsniaat Tritii tbs : * " r-c 3 stly . bigoted , 2 Ita : ^ r : t . " rfcs Kng of HanoTer , i'y > -i : rch the services ef - ' . ' U-j" ) Ham > verian troops are to t = p * i » . ed at ttieir diiT « -5 sl io-serriss in Iraiand ; Bfed IS the Mail , * tli- ^ e tri > -pj sxe Tvaiiy for embarka * . ¦ . ;> at 5 f ^ -w huars ' Ho : -. e ^ ti-- ' in four dsyB , "with iL ^ a id cf JirstrCiasa steaj . er ? , they coul-1 be landed on oar * bores , and at vrhiizT $ T i-jisi their seryices migk ! be deemed necessary '

      * ' > > " » , ba 3 as Tre think of the G-jvcrnniEnt , we do not belies- itst eT £ B if such a proposr . i — - * 3 made by the trccu . T-1 -jv ? nirch of HanoTer , it ^ ., a ! rt be accepted try ; . ' :: i :- ^ s . 2 fo doabt the K \ ns -t ifanoTer "wcnld de ; i ? jt to hsT > e a ciTil "war n ? ini i-. i Ireland—that he misht bo ^ ^ viisc-j—thsthemijjiii inzka Baerehacdisa of h ? . « H ! r :-i > . ii lasuy a paltry Germss Piince did dmfno ; :--¦ ? s-,- -B-Tir . *• i ^ r tb « - ; e "Kill banoci" ? il war ia Irdani No doubt thert s ^ s > -.-rea - ^ dd eathasiasta "Kbc ja « k of pikes and

      piin :. « 33 , ar-I firxy thsy eould era . ; uPr "with an unann-i ; I , « tKia--c ! pHaed peaantry , seiinst ¦ well-armed * n u b'irrJy giH ^ piiced soldiers . Ko donbt , Tre eay , Borne of \ i ^ 7- -n _ z tlc-od of Irelau-1 -would be ready to peril iiber . 5 ind lifs in fifihUng nut f ^ r R-pea ; alone , Imr f : r fcepiriioa . However , like Warsaw ' s last « k : ^ pis : c 5 -sea-choice spirita ars ' fsw though xftsdis-JBaj ^ - ' - ' ' / s ? e people at large may sympathise with file ai ; tut U-- p 4 > isantry cf Ireland are now too thonghtfnl sn > : s-. I- ^ r to bo marshalled foi destmction at their

      • ' ; -. ~ , » - t- so apprehensions-whattTsr of ar < yin » urree-& > --- " riv- ^ nent . The eonatry ¦» - « sever in a le * s " arilirr Ue . ; -ar than at present I : » ay serve the parpote : . f f 5 _; i . * a tj represent us' en ti : ts verge of a rebtliior ; -- ; n mi , y psnder to the oa > 9 passions of the OnjL ,-iurr , fo ^ Ue ^ foi / io hold oat a hope of the Tef 3 » i ^ T 7 _ j ; c > rp 3 hung called into action to fraternise tfizz . tL ° £ L 3 Jov-risns ; but "we do not see "wliat good pnrrvas i : :- caicniated to serve , or in "what m-inner it is likr ' y to =. ivsi&j the real ink-rests f our country , in tht prt ^ -r ; t tTcntfo ] crisis , to indulge in seen falae represent ^ Jcrs . ana " nel& out to a bigoted anJ savage fac"fios ibs irk-Aihood at their being permitted to slake their tL ^ rs * ior rapine and slaughter in cor junction with » EisiT 2 RiE baniirti " The Ihtus of M ' osdsr thus discourseUi ;—

      ° S-i-zzztin save lo'loved up their proclamsiiin by itstii . ^ = ^ niats gainst CyConnei ; ai . ^ t " ght otber lead ing I .--i ..= 2 . ! er « , on the charge ef ' C-, 2 pj-acy and © ther an& ^ tHirsaosrs . ' On Saturday lass th = dfefuadacta gave bail to ars * " ± r tkis charge on the £ rs " . cay of ths ~ ap'prc-itb . lE : ^ te rm . *• TVe " = fill aotsiop here to anticipate the perplexities orcrlijs'whJ ^ i tbis ecurse of pro = * - * dicg msy anavoid-» bij ; r ;^^; -ve . The accsised "will exj . > y ail the beneStv of a Cdji > ' 2 vizvj ' - -2 trial , and the issne uf tiiat triil is ± 1 the pK ~ trt n :- - -i- ; -i > t a doubtful , "but also a secondary , or

      latter ss i-risirsisl , ocmsidex&iio& . " 7 i » - -uLici point " » hich attrtcta csr obs ? rrtiti- > ii is the -i ~ oiii ? Lsii cf die GoTernmeai to attxk the a ^ iia-¦ Bo - i-t-cif . li ihe orejeary pa-wers ^ of the la"w , anyky-t a £ il ? -ia lie lesdera of tbv Mitj-Britua party , ihct ^ iu pr -T 3 J-j ^ ffiCT ° n t to appeas" tbit most lBintnta& = - rr ; tiT : > 2 by -wbkh Ireland br .-i becri too mng battu ^^ i , tbv = -sve have n « doubt r . — . ifcai MinaLers -Hiii iv v .-rr-ortd to exertase exfcrT-crSittiTj vigour . ¦ HI' - - x rL » - > o-srn responsibility , -r by the permUaion « f Pvr ;^ t . *^ t .

      . " At j , r = ^ <« j each considerations are , If not irrele T&tt , it li-it premature . The Cabinet is , in ox > x estianstic 2 , tc Iri applauded for the intention ¦ which it has -evinced t « save the Monarchy frc-m tha slow fever oi vnicshiea «* Iidon , and to be congraiBSaied on Uie im-Xneui ^ te and sppsrent effects of its new and less lenient be&iErfii . Ine French papers indite—as some of oar BDgUsh SJ-sttsiparaiias ^—^ baTB ehacklf d in the assurance shM z&a protlamatietti of Earl I > e « isy will not jmt 4 o-j ? ii zbs Bspeal agitation . - UsqaesrioBabJy it fifieale * ¦ - no aLost to tell 11 a that . However meanly men may uask 'A the moral qualities of Me . O'Cjnnell said L ^ s cl ' q'ie , and of the intellect or determination of bis Ln ^ iMrT fbUoweo , no one , -we presume , coaJJ » 3 zpp « e tht Rapes ! agitation to be of so -wholly facto be

      fifc ^ s chsraetei as Ho-wn to pieces "by the Jners ¦ ni ^ ff of a proclamation . We should aa "wiaaJy ttd- 'i an eneHiT rooted "when we had driven In his Targaard . The history of the proclamation afforu 3 "aa rather an earnest ot triumph than any final ite-. rj . It is valuable because it sbo ^ s , or weniB to a hc' ^ , tiat the G--jveznment have life and de erminatJtn to srspple with the agitation , and that the agitates " have not life or dstermin ? . tion to grapple with the O r - exnxBi&l . 1 $ tnrns the tab : ea . Hitherto the imjrifewton hMs been , that Government durst not forbia ifcai which OOjcaell commanded ; that they might deprive ms = 5 strit ** , refuse patronage , exhort , recomlOiiiii , or deprecate , but that they did not darethat iidr kr-owledge of their own weakness forbade

      Xbtm —boldly to say , ' Tbis thing -whizh you have an-» ocrr-r-a ELtU not be : "we forbid it . and we "Wiil pre-Tea ^ it . AT'd , on tiiB other hand , tLe imprtssion has beea i-qcily ? -rrong that G'Connell , - wiih bis ieetotal-Jerf- did a = 3 -rftcld dara to go to ihe a-jnoat limits of » h 2 . t he rrihitsined to fee ihe law , in spite of the Govtmts-tt ; that if they prea . «« l the nia ' . ter to issu 9 he ¦ w--u = d i- c * = p ! . it—ttat he"w 6 uid , as he boasted , meet fiiem loot to foct ; that he "wonld do the forbidden Sbine , ard try tbe coaBtqaeucses , -whetber by an appeal lo th ? courts of \ zrw , 01 by a mort terrible appeal to physical force ; that be -would defena himself by a jary of Ms countrymen against a Ministerial interprttjiiion of la-w , cr *¦ •? an * army of friezs-coata' against toe instru"jneiits of T-ifrzal power .

      " Thii m- ' -z r ^ e p&palai impresrian ; and it ? ave to the Bsp ^ tl p ^ rty ill that impetus asd vigour which is ever * Lo—a by those "who thisk that they have nolody to cil them to account . Rrpealers felt they ^ rox ^ Ll r , rt fc < pBnUhed , anfci-R : p « der » that they would Slot fc ? yr-oteclcd ; and boUi looked to 0 'Contell ss ^ man c-: "; iTi : _ j and growing power , "ffho was to be , if bs ^ a ? T >' . i s '^ a- ^ y , the practical governor « f Ireland . 32 jii iu : j >~ - ~^' zoTi -s-as ztrengtfiened by tbe ahamefnliy besitatli- ^; mo q-iiliSed tone in "which the only Mlniptezizl act , thr iiprivauoa of the B-. paaling magistrates , * ti-fcsir I " 07 some Ministerial speakers in the Eousr if C-m ; scsa , TheBapeal Movement , directed by asojilt icf-ier , -was advancing boldly an § rapidly toworiH a jcJ Esie otjecL The supporters of tba ^ iti ^ coil : - cx : or—those connected by blood , by BtngneBts v affactfan , by religion -with ¦ the frr ^ T ^ - ^ " handi enfeebkd and tneir efforts

      infW-T * " *¦ thercfore P » al >«^ , for waat of that ; Sr ^ -S ^ SS . 'S' w « i '&ST : 13 S-TS- ^ -XJEirffi ^ r ^^ -ftssijeajisrs ! H M ^ psils ^ rzrsz i o ^ ssi ws-i P > et-a as wMgemen * . baa issued h ^ s ordS , ^ d « fMttjd b » lev ^ bad ahnc * t co ncocted KpS teeasrf-ha f ^^« views , when GwraSS Mddenly nid , Tina riafl not he / and Mi . O-ConnTll tecCKTnuici . - - -

      •• TLeblo-wttrastradthM not , of eouise , crushed SspeaL The idea » friTokaa It Ibis noTSS lepasrea ail tba evils i » Mdi tare accrued inecessanly or aot we -will cot dov xtay to Inquire } from long accul-•¦ eeioe , 3 a $ it hu done ttis ^ -it ha * jeveraed Xiis poBtraBoTs 2 ait »—ithai «^ nbited the Government as Ben who iave coursgB and an intection—it ba > shown Hirt they ere prepared to bmT for the-defence of the ConBtltotion ib& powers which feat ConsHtatton gives aem—it , has * hown that these pewen aie efficient in their hands . Taken in connettion "with the concenfcra-Jum of military , force span ^ Ireland ; that preparation Egr the vorst , 5 rhidi- ; h 3 » long been in progress , of ^ rfcich ihe result * / were"in a measure displayed fe the : " -lhib . lki- malcoatenta on ths p'eat day -of dontarfi and which furnished a pledge that "what

      Was » ia W 33 meant , that Government h , « ri sot issued thgir comsaand -rrthont having counted the cost and proTisied foz lie mx \ tbreateoing conieqneneet : —

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      newed , we Bay , in this connexion , the lata step in adraEce leads men to h * pe ttiat past inaction is no omen Df fature indecision—that Government haw acted on & plan , and ate no * merely to support a brulum fvlnten —bus thai , having accumulated their ' streng-n at -gieat exptnse , and after great delay , they are now prepared to pnS it forth firmly and effectually for the restoration of order and security . Be it so The success of thenfirst enterprise is an encouragemant to them to procsed ; an encouragement to us to trust our interests In their hand . It gives th ^ m a claim on « ur confidence ; it exposes the bollowneas of that bugbear which they have to vanquish . The disconcerted retreat j thesaspidoES , the apologies , the crest-fallen blustering of their adversaries all tell one stoiy . Portions are changed . The star of the British empire ia culminating , and Mr . O'Connell totters . 11

      This person is at this moment playing the losing game ; but yet the game bas to be played out . By proceeding against him in the consitutional mode which they have adopted—and -which -we acknowledge was the only method -which a British Ministry could adopt -without incurring much odium , and therefore paralysing their own efforts—by proceeding against him in this way , it may turn out that they have restored the balance of power between themselves and him—bctwjBen the British Gavernment and an Irish faction—between the party of the union and that of separation . It xnust be their business , then , so to frame their measures that this equilibrium ahall only be iemfcrttry—that no momentary triumph of the accused—no future chicanery—no verbal juggling

      —no special pleading—shall be permitted to shield ill-disguised or triumphant conspiracy from the interference of authority . Let U 3 not , in two or three months , » e * simultaneous' substituted for ' monster ' meetings , ' horsemen ior ' cavalry , ' ' groups' for 'troops , ' patriotic societies' for Repeal Association * . * All these things are to be grappled ¦ with , not in their varioua forms , bnt in their root It ii not by such Bubterfuge « that a Government should be foiled . They must strike , not above , below , beBide , or round about , but at the tvil—at the person from whom , or at the principle from which , it proceeds—or at both . Need we promise them our hearty suppertin an ; such courBe "which tends to vindicate the efficiency of law , and protect the rightB of property and integrity of the empire ?

      " To filter -would be infatuation—to falter would ba to rt »» «*»« . * ¦ ¦ ¦ ... ~»« x > rot 3-pia and complete sucscss cannot feznpt them to be really formidable . Their present advantage is hollow , unless it is the germ of futnra and importaat snecessss . To stop short would be to expose its nothingness—to dissipate the prestige which now attaches to it—to habituate the Irisb . people to viow ¦ with contempt the exertions , as they have already learnt to despise the acquiescence , of authority . Ministers have delivered their fire ; let them charge ¦ while the enemy is frightened by the unexpected sound . No second volley will ever frighten taem so mnch a ^ ain . " The same Journal , the Times , of Tuesday , repudiates the " Hanoverian ItMvasion" in the following terms : —

      " For our o- » n parts -we can only say that we hope , nay , that we confidently believe , this report to be utterly unfounded . Nothing at the present moment could be so unnscessary , nothing bv unpopular , nothing bo illcalculated to effect its ostensible purpose , as < he landing of foreign troops in Kingsto"wn . Nothing can ever justify sach a step , except the acknowledged and unaoubt&i deficiency of English troops , as during the time of a continental war , or after a very considerable reduction in the peace establishment Even then , although constitutionally justified by thb emtreency of the occasion , it is a measure fraught with danger , and seldom unattended by lasting calamities . It combines the aspect of foreign invasion with the severities of native despotism . It excites an insurrection merely to crush it by unusual and intolerable cruelty . The object of Government is to preserve

      Ireland to the empire ; to subdue its ambitious tffoita at independent nationality ; and , eventually to bind her by the firmer and more indissoluble links of seif-interert to the establishment and defence of our common name and nation . This can never fee done by the sabres of Garman mercenaries . The HaneverianB—aa the Hessians did—may irritate gali— savage the Irish people—but they cannot subdue them . No ;—if the worst come to the worst—if which God in his mercy avert !—the sword be once dra ^ n , and the scabbard flung away , it is not by foreign arms that Irish daring mn ? t fee encountered . We nave been , as a nation , calumniated and reviled . As a nation , let us defend onr honour . Borland h »« been pronounced incapable of maintaining her sway in Ireland . Were ber Government to emp ' oy foreign troops in tbe attempt , what confirmation would it not give to the braggart falsehood !"

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      matter bid taken much deeper root Other leaders besides O Connell either appeared on the stage , or fikuiked behind the scenes ; and , above all , it was evident that the great mass of the Roman Oathobc peasantry had thoroughly taken the matter to heart The people "were bursting -with Repeal . It was not in the least necessary to put searching questions to them in order to get at their sentiments . You could not make the conimoBest inquiry without bringing on a Rapeal discussion . If ytu asked the price of pork or fish in the streets , the old women were buto to say something of tbis sort , after they had answered your question : —" Well , Sir , when are-we to have our rights ? when -will out Parliament sit in College-green ?" , The people , in . Bhort , -were determined to nave Repeal—by fair means , if possible—but , at any rate , RspeaL They had , moreover , fully made up their minds

      to the sacrifices conesqnent upon a popular rising , and had familisrised themselves to all the contingences of an insurrection in an extraordinary degree . There was not a siBgle important point connected with the suhjsct on which they -were not prepared with a good military aaswer ; and , in "whatever part of the country the question might be asked , you were Bure of receiving the aame answer in substance , and , generally spsaking , in nearly the same -words . This last-mentioned circumstance proves to demonstration that the plans of operation with which the heads of the peasantry were filled did not originate with themselves , but that they had emaaated from some common source , and were , in fact , the instructions of superior minds , which bad been carefully prepared to suit the exigency of the case , and had been afterwards disseminated by means of some established organizition among the people .

      When the rebellion of 1768 was spoken of , the remark invariably made "was to ^ is effect : "Those days , Sir , were the days of drinking whisky . Oar people lay drunk in the ditches , and the troepB obtained an easy -victory . But now we are a sober , temperate , and religious people . '' If 1 beard this remark made onco , I heard it fifty times . If the Bupsriority of disciplined over undisciplined troops were adverted to , the answer was always of this kind : — " O , Sir ! you don ' t suppose we shall give yeu the advantage or lighting a pitched battle with us . We shall rise in our counties and baronies , and do all we want \ which means , making a clean iweep of the Protestants ); and when tho troops arrive they will find the people quietly at plough , and we fchalt be doing our work elaewiiere . " R-fsrence was alae constantly raado to cutting off convoys and detatched parties , by lining the hedges with pvkemen and closing upon them , in the way that was practised with some success during the rebellion of 1798 , and consequently , on the occasion of several well-kuown cocfiicts with the police .

      Workmen were employed in boring loopholes in the walls of the first barrack which I happened to pass . A person who was- with me pointed with his thumb to the people so employed , and said , " Pretty nonsense that , 8 ir . When tflu bojs risa they will pull the so ; - Uera eut by their Bhoulaers . " 1 asked him to explain himself , at . d be went on to say that the walls of the barracks would be scaled in every direction by night , and that the people would tumble in over by thousands , and tquetzs the troops to death , if they did not take them out and throw them into the river . I balievo

      this to be a perfectly correct military idea . The contour of many of the barracks is very extensive . The walls are low , there is no ditch , and if the people bad tumbled in over by hundreds at night , when the raking fire from the bastions would have less effect , it 1 b possible that before our . preparations were bo complete as they now are , ths assailants might have carried some of the barracks . I afterwards found that this plan of attacking the barracks was generally diffused amoug the people . : There is another horrible prevailing idea , which really startled me the first time 1 heard it I was waiting for my cur early in the morning in the street of a small , sulky , ill-conditioned town , when , seeing a farmer ' s wife setting up a potato stall , I asked ber the price of her potatoes . She gave me a civil answer ; but two men were standing by , one of whom said , without my

      having previously addressed him , or having made any remark calculated to encourage the obsbrvation : " We ahali eat wheaten bread next year , Sir . " I was really unable to make out hia drift , and told him goodhumouredly that I was very glad to hear it , bat begged to know bow the charge would be brought about . " There will be fewer of as , Sir , " was the reply . I then began to understand his meaning ; and , as I encouraged him to speak out , be proceeded to say that there were 8 , 000 , 000 of them ; that the land was not able to bear them ; tbat 1 . , 000 or 3 . , 000 flight be spared with advantage , and that the country would be for the eurviTora . I afterwards beard the same idea , either in whole or la part , in a variety of forms ; but the burden of the song always was " Protestant and Catholic will freely fall , and the land will be for the survivors . "

      Their commissariat also was arranged . Every man was ta bring bo many days ' potatoes , and butter and bacon , if he con Id afford it Amidst all this warlike preparation I was surprised to bear nothing of drilling , or of the manufacture of arms , and I made various inquiries upon lbs subject . It appeared from the result tbat it formed no part of the plan of the popular leaden to drill the people in an ostensible military manner in that stage of their operations . The tactics they had resolved upon , which are mainly those of a guerilla warfare , did not require a high state of discipline ; and to have assembled large bodies of men for the purpose of training them would nave ied to a premature explosion . With regard to arms , the answer I always received was , that there was no want of arms already in the country ; and tbat as the people were all of one mind , when they rose , they would convert everything into weapons of war . Their reliance teemed to be on the stock of firearms

      constantly concealed in the country ; on their national weapoB , the pike , which may be manufactured by any common blacksmith , in large numbers , in the course of a tingle day ; and on the pitchfork ( scarcely leas formidable than the pike ) , which is in every cabin . But their main reliance was on their numbers and unanimity . The people of Zurich effected their Strauss revolution with their red umbrellas ; and the people of the south of Ireland seem to fancy that if the ; rose as one man , everybody must qoail before them . If you spoke to them of the army , the remark commonly made was— " But , sir , you forget teat threefourths of the army are Irishmen ; and every Irishman is a Repealer . "

      If you spoke of the Protestants of the north , the answer was : " The Presbyterian tenants will not stand by their landlords . Lord Roden called » great meeting on the subject , and be was obliged to give it op , because the tenantry were prepared to come forward with a demand for fixity of tenure as the price of their adherence . " It is remarkable that on no one occasion did I hear it stated by the Roman Catholic peasants tbat they could beat the Protestants of the north . What they always said was , that the Protestants would not turn out at the call of their nobility and gentry . '¦ ¦ Reference was also constantly made to assistance which they expect from foreign powers , and from Wales , Scotland , and the manufacturing districts ; and the remark invariably made was , tbat although the affair might commence in Ireland , it would not end there .

      Yet , after the people had been talking in this strain , if you said that you were sorry to fin-i them in such a temper of mind , the unswer always returned was , " Sir , we have no intention of going to war . " " Not going to war ! " was the natural rejoinder , " why , you have been talking nothing but treason and rebellion for the last hour , and now you say that you do not intend to go to war . What do you mean 1 " "No , Sir , " was the regular reply ; " we do not mean to go to war with the Government ; but if the Government goes to war with us , then all the boys will rise . " This again required explanation , and on inquiry it always turned ont that their real meaning waa as follows : they have unlimited faith in O'Connell ' s practical talents and in

      bis knowledge of the law . They are persuaded that be will not take any step which will be contrary to law . They looked forward to the assembly of the 300 as the crisis on which the whole question depended . If the Government interfered with the meeting of the 300 ; they considered that the first aggression would then decidediy ba on the part of the Government , and that was to be the signal for their rising . It baa been carefnlly impressed upon them that they are not themselves to take the initiative , but that they are to leave the Government to put itself In the wrong by making the first attack . It may also be observed that they- never speak of their rising as an insurrection or rebellion ; but that the term tlwaya nsed by them is " going to war . " The genius of the Irish is decidedly military .

      It is due to the people to say , that while they have rebellion and massacre on their lips ; they are , nevertheless , decidedly advancing in sobriety , industry , and , except in the case of tbe horrible Tipperary murders , in good order and respeot for the laws . Faction fights have ceased to exist , and shillelaghs are rarely seen except in the police-offices , where they are Used as firewood . Repeal has been for some time passed their master-passion , and everything elso , even what are generally con-Bidtred tbe milder virtues , has been pressed into tbe service . The motto which is put most prominently forward at their Repeal meetings i « " He who commita a crime givea strength to tbe enemy . " Although tbe organisation of the Temperance Societies preceded the Rspeal Movement , that organization bas been adopted into it The congregation of each Roman Catholic

      chapel generally forms a temperance society . The Repeal Wardens are the officers ; tfee temperance band , the member * of which are dressed in uniform , are the rallying point ; and when it is determined to show the strengtbof the country , the male members of the temperance societies are marehalled under their reapeotive bandi and colours , and marched out to the monstermeeting * The people appear to take a pride in displaying their fixity of purpoie and the supposed moral excellence of their / cause , by an ofcvioas abandonment of their previously habjitaal rrlces . They feel . ashamed when a drunken man appears reeling in the streets ; and I have seen them rebuke mendfeants t whom they bate observed in the act of importuning a stranger . Intoxication is now rarely seen in Ireland . I visited three crowded fairs , and did not < ee , a single instance of it ; and 1 did not observe more than six or Beven drunken

      peeple all the time I was in Ireland . There is nothing new under the sun . Tbe same untoward quiet preceded the breaking oat of the last rebellion . The following well-known passage hi almost as applicable to tbe present crisis as it was to that of 1798 : — " I apprehend we

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      shall have a rough winter again , though we have bad bo stilla summer ., The people about us are too hush and too prudent ; it ljs-n " ot their nature ; there " s something contriving among them i they don't break one another ^ heads at fairs as they uaed to do ; they keep from whiskey ; there must be some Btrong motive working this change upon them—good or bad , 'tis hard to say which . '' God forbid that I should undervalue the existing symptoms of an improved morality ; but nobody will deny that it will be an advantage if we can hare the morality without ) tbe rebellion .

      I am also bound to say that , although tho people talked to me of blood and murder as familiarly as young Indita talk of puppy-dogs and kittens , I did not meet with a single Instance of Incivility . I was told more than once , that if the boys were ta rise , my life would not be worth a bad pound note ; and certainly , at two or three places , tbe people were in such a gloomy frame of mind , that , after one or two trials , I did not venture to ask them any questions on the subject The only privation I suffered was the absence of the frco flow of genuine Irish humour with which ' travellers in Ireland in better times

      have been delighted . The people were , as a general rule , in too serious a mood to indulge ia jokes ; nevertheless , the fun which every Irishman possesses w -uld occasionally ocz * out . If you asked them what they wouid do it they did nob gat Repoal , they generally looked glum , and talked rebellioualy ; but some would say , after a little consideration , " Why , Sir , I suppose we should do without it , " or , "I suppose wo should do as we did before . " Not to get Repeal always seemed to be quite a new idea to them ; and when tbe impossibility of it was pointed but , it seemed to have the same effect upon their minds as a violent shock might have been expected to have upon their bodies .

      Hitherto I havs been speaking only of tbe R'smnn Catholic peasantry of the south of Ireland . They are naturally an amiable , good humoured , and contented people } bnt they are very ignorant and very excitable , and they have been systematically plied with mirepre-Btintations to a degree which waa , perhaps , never practised before . I never saw a poor people in such a miserable state of delusion . { The Roman Catholics of tbe middle class , both in town and country , have also generally given in to the movement The popular torrent was running too strong for them to withstand , and they have , one by one , ; been carried away by it Some are influenced by mistaken patriotic motives , but the generality have merely yielded to tbe necessity of tbeir situation .

      The paso ia very different with some few of the gentry , bo ^ h Protestant and Catholic , who have given their sanction to tbe movement Their independent fortunes place them in a situation which enables them to speak out when all others are obliged to be silent . Their liberal education , and the general information possessed by them , must have convinced them that the Repeal cause could be seriously and effectively prosecuted only by means of a popular insurrection , which wonld bring destruction upon the south of Ireland , and which would not , after all , succeed ; but , although these gentlemen do not hesitate to give their sanction to tbe movement , and to hound on the people to their ruin , nothing is further from their intentions than to risk their own ntck and fortunes . When the time

      arrives ) for showing colours ( which God forbid , it over should arrive ) , the poor deluded people will bo astonished at the number of , influential persona upon wkom they now count who will pair off with the Government If the gentlemen alluded to wish to preserve a character for common honesty and good faith , they will side with the people in tbe case supposed ; but , aa they joined the movement from the selfish motive of obtaining for themselves a temporary popularity , they may be expected to prefer their own safety , and to sicrifice the people when it comes to tbe point . I do not like the plan of giving unprincipled or foolish ambitious persons the opportunity of reaping the honours without suffering the pains of martyrdom . It is desirable that no martyrs at all should bo made ; but , if they must be made , let them at least be real martyrs .

      There is another estate in the Repeal ranks , of the existence of which people in England have no notion . These are the young men of Dublin . They profess to be Irish politicians of the Ernmett and Lord Edward Fitzgerald school ; and , as far as the difference in the circumstances of tbe two countries admits , they answer to tbe jeunes gens de Paris . They are public-spirited , enthusiastic young men , possessed of that deacription of crude and imperfect information on political subjects which induced several of our present Whig and Conservative leaders to be violent Radicals in their youth . These " young men of Dublin supply all the good writing , and history and political philosophy , such us it is , of the party . They also supply tbe poetry .

      Popular ballads from the same workshop , of a general description , bat of a coarse and simple kind , are openly sung in the streets of the towns and villages , and form not the least important part of tbe system of measures which has been adopted for the purpose of inflaming the people . October 11 . Puilalethes .

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      and cheering ) . I am to be the drag on the wheel that it may go steadily down tho plane of liberty . It is tlj duty now to restrain . Ifc was my duty formerly to excite . 'My reverend colleagues have left their trade of preaching for agitating , and I noyr take up the gowns which they have thrown from off their shoulders , and set about sermonising yon . * ' j ¦ OCjnnell , although the author of all tbis mischief , h , nevertheless , now oar chief ground of reliance for the preservation of the peace . Ab an English gentleman was lately driving in the neighbourhood of Dublin , his attention was attracted by G . P . O . ( from the General Post Office ) on all tbe mile stones ; and he asked his car driver [ what it meant . "O , sir , don't you know wbat that ] means ? God Preserve OCohnell to be sure , " a prayer ( in which I heartily join .

      The danger ia , that O'Connell has so filed the imagination of the people with the idea of their Parliament in College-green , that the only way in which he is now able to keep them quiet is by confirming the delusion ; or , in other words , by assuring them that he will not flinch , and that they shall have their Parliament whole and entire . He ought to have recollected Wotsay ' s . dying advice to Mr . jKingstone : — " He is a Priucs of royal courage , and bath a princely heart ; and rather than he will miss or want any pan of bis will or pleasure , be will endanger the loss of the one-half of his

      realm . For I assure you I have often kmeled before him , the space sometimes of three hours , to persuade him from his will and appetite ; but I could never dissuade him therefrom . Therefore , Mr . K < ng 8 tdne , I warn you if it chance you hereafter to be of bis Privy Council , as for your wisdom you are very meet , be well awared * and advised ! What ye pu % in his head , for ye shall never put it out again . " One of the greatest Ueltiaions which have been put into the beads of the peasantry is that they are a nation . The idea has been sedulously inculculated— " We are many . " " Whatever a nition wills , most be . "

      The poor people forget , or they hava never heard , that although positively many , they are comparatively few . The Roman Catholic peasantry of the Bouth of Ireland are greatly outnumbered by tbe rest of their countrymen , including the loyal and well-affected Catholics and Protestants jof Ireland , and the great body of the English and Scotch people . But mere nambera form only one , and by no means the most importaat , element in a military question . T / ie sea is entirely at the command of tho British Government . No part of Ireland is much more than fifty miles from the sea . Oarships of war and s . teamers would command the maritime towns and coast , and convey troops to tht . flink or rear oi any rebel force that

      might be assembled in any part of the country . There is no part ot Ireland in which an insurrectionary force could take up ifo position , and say , " We are safe here . " | The country ia , also , for the most part , very open and weak , in a military point of view : there am no fences which would oppose ia serious obstacle to the maiceuvxes of regular infantry , and in most parts ef tb

      as that district is concerned , it wouid be sufficient to . watch any rtb ^ l force that might assemble there , and it must soon melt away of itself for want of provisions , i All the strongholds ; of the country are in the hands of tbo Government , and ] its officers and troops are fully prepared . { Ivi 8 a-vain expectation © f thd R > man Catholic peasantry of the . south that the Protestants of the north would not declare against them . As surely as the south rose in rebellion against tbe Government , the north would rise is support of the Government Tbe spirit which prompted the ! ever-memorable defence of Londonderry , and excited ! tbe Enniskilliners always to rush to the attack with the ! ferocity and exaltation of a tiger bounding « pon hiB prey , is by no nieatta extinct All minor differences will be absorbed by the portentous consideration of the maintenance of their religion and

      liberties . The northerns are quite as ready to fall on , as the Roman Catholic peasantry ; and it will be seen that such is the case the moment the restraint which is at present imposed upon them by the Government is removed . . They declare that , if the Government would only leave them to themselves , they would conquer the rest of Ireland without any assistance ; and those who know the intelligence , the vigour , the dogged perseverance , the high and courageous spirit of this class of people , will not consider this so empty a boast as it might at first sight appear . They possess all the high qualities ef the English and Scotch nations , with the addition of the determined , an 4 it may be , in some instances , the ferocious spirit which an unsettled state of society , and the frequent contemplation of danger , naturally produce . To let loose this power is certainly a dreadful alternative ; but it would be far more dreadful that our well-affected ] countrymen in the south should be left to have their throats cut at the leisure of ths

      insurgents , and that a destructive warfare should be allowed to be protracted . But say the southerns , we mean to carry on a guerilla warfare , and we shall accomplish our objects without anywhere opposing a front to your troops . This is the greatest delusion of all . The ignorant people think that tha losslof a million or two ef their number is the utmost extent of the sacrifice which they would have to make—jtbat they ... ould wear us out by delay , and that tbe survivors would be left better off than they were before . !

      The actual loss of life is tb « least of the evils which is entailed by a popular war ; when tbe contest ia merely between the Governments , the people look on while the regular armies fight it out ; and after a campaign or two , the matter is decided without much iDjury to either partyi Even in our own civil wars , although infinite evils were entailed upon England , the contest was in the main between the regular armies on each Bide . But tf an ! insurrection breaks oat ia Ireland , the struggle will be between the people and with the people . Every town , every village , every farmhouse will be a ssene of cenfiict ; the industry oF the country will be suspended ; the stock of food and the means of future { production will be destroyed : within Six months there will be a pestilence , to say

      nothing cf the widows and orphans . There is no European country which would suffer so severely from the effaots of a pppular war as Ireland , because none is more populous and none less provided with varied resources . In order to find a parallel to the effects of such a warfare in Ireland , it would be necessary to go to those districts of India which have been the scene of murderous and long-continned contests . In the straggle carried on in tbe south of Ireland in the reign of Elizabeth , which is known by the name of the Desmond War , the peoplo died by hundreds ia the ditches , with grass in jtbeir mouths , with which they

      vainly endeavoured to satisfy the cravings of hunger . This bas been repeatedly referred to by O'Connell , as a proof ot the atrocious jcruelty of the English . It was no such thing . The Desmond war was a strictly popular war , such as we are now threathened with ; and the necessary consequence of such a war , in a country circumstanced as Ireland , iathat the sources whence life is sustained are dried up . j In such a case tho miserable people have no choice given them between famine , pestilence , and the sword . '{ They fall under all three . Will it now be said tbat the loss of a million or two of lives would be the only sacrifice which the people would have to make , and tbat the survivors would be benefited by

      the change ? E ? en the most sanguine cannot expect that Francs and America will fall on the moment the peasantry in tbe south of Ireland chqoso to rise . Before the French and Americans became sufficiently excited to force their governments into the contest , if they ever reached that point , the contest would be decided in Ireland . They who rest thetr hepes on foreign assistance greatly underrate the spirit and pow 6 r of England . England maintained her ground for kany years against nearly the whole world in arms : and Bbeia prepared to do soaaain ,

      if the occasion requires it If tfee south of Ireland were to rebel , the loyal and well-affucted Britons , both at borne and in many of the dependencies of the empire , would take tbe preservation of the peace into their own hanis . The great bulk } of the British army would be precipitated on thd south of Ireland . The shores of Ireland wonld be surroinded with ships and steamers of war ; and such is theI trust reposed by capitalists in tho good filth and reaottrces of the government of the United Kingdom , that any Bum of money which might be necessary for j carrying on the war for any length of time would be forthcoming on demand .

      And let not these poor deluded people count on the British soldier abandoning his colours . Some drunken men , who have had liquor given to them by the Repealers , may roll down the street , shouting © ut in the frolicsome thoughtless style of sach people : •* Hurrah for Repeal 1 " but it came ; to be a question whether tbey would be true to their } Sovereign , and to their own pledged faith , even these persons would do their duty perhaps as effectually ai their more steady ca mrades ; and aa soon as the first blood is spilt , see who ^ ili be the greater tiger of the two . ]

      And will there be no ' defections in the rebel camp ? They are now apparently united , because the popular current runs bo strongly ] in one direction that all are obliged to yield at least ] an outward conformity to the prevailing idea , Bat wait , I say again , till the time comes for showing colours , and see how many of the gentlemen , who now cheer you on to the brink of the precipice , will jump down with you . Are you so mad as to imagine that several persons whose names will at once occur to you , will « ver dream of boiattng the white cockade ? Even among those who will break out with you , ia it to b « expected tbat all will remain true ? There is an old Irish adage : " Roart a * Irishman on the spit , and yoaj will be sore to get smother to turn him . " Many w » H ] « bon weary of the contest . Others wiU begin to doobt wbetber it may be- eventually attended with mcce »; and tfaero will be no want of persons who will " gladly avail ^ themselves of any opportunity that may offer to making their peace with the Government at the expenco of their former

      associates . ] _ ] PHILliETHES Oct . 11 , 1843 . I

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      Greece . —Tho Augsburg Gazette of the 5 th insfc , states tbat a protest against the late revolution in Greece may be expected to be made by the Emperor of Russia . i

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      -1 , . —¦ -i - - " -- '" ** _ PARADISE WITHIN THE REACH OF ALL MEN WITHOUT LABOUR , BY POWERS OF NATURE AND MACHINERY . Letter Vil . TO THE EDITOR OF XHE NOUTHEBN SlAR . Dear . Sib , —The contents of my former letters , which you had the kindness to insert in your valuable and popular journal , and especially Nos . V and VI ., in which I embodied an address to the people , and a memorial to both Houses of Parliament , by J . A . Etz < ler , have produced a lively inquiry amongst your friends ia various parts of the country ; and preliminary branch societies , for the purpose of examining and popularising Elzler ' s idfas , with a view to carry them ent practically , are now bsiHg formed in different places This shows evidently tbat the time for a new popular movement has arrived , the tendency of which is far

      beyond politics . The question is no longer how much power and patronage belongs to a king , a lord , a general , a soldier , or a constable . The duties of subjects and the rights of governors cease to absorb tho minds of reflecting and thinking men , —which are , and have been in all ages , the creators and leaders of public opinion ; and in their stead the qaestioar ^ Which are useful and which are useless members of society ? the mode to increase tbe former and decrease tbe latter ? the question , how can men live without being obliged or compelled to work from morning till late in tbe night ? the question , how shall society be formed , that all out natural wants can be supplied without injury or fraud on any of our fellow-men ? the question , bow is it possible to fulfil the divine eommand , " thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself , " are now only deemed fit to occupy our attention .

      Men , collectively , are progressing new Ideas . New improvements and inventions have their effect upon society : at first imperceptibly ; but aeon all powerful . Our present state of society is se different to the state of society two or three hundred yeais ago , that the customs and laws of that time must appear ridiculous in tho eyes of this generation . For instance , counsellors and judges in wigs look now like mummies or Punch and Judies , and fall entirely to produce the desired effect of conveying an idea of sublime wisdom , except in the minds of the most ignorant Wisdom is as foreign to the wig of an English judge as it is to the tail of a Chinese mandarin , although both are deemed sacred by those who wear them .

      But bow is it that antiquated laws and customs are not abolished as soon as they appear ridiculous ? How is it that institutions are kept up against our own interest and welfare ? Bscause it is more difficult to get rid of bad habits than to contract them ; and because it is more difficult and dangerous , and at the same time less useful , to remove rotten timbers from an old house , and put new ones in their places , tha 1 to erect a new houce and abandon the old fabric entirely . State doctors of the old school , are like their colleagues in medicine ; extremely fond of blistering aad occasional bloodletting , instead of recommending a radical cure and conforming to the laws . of nature . It ia useless to apply a fontaneil to draw out a distemper , if we do not remove tbe cause which produces it

      The cause of our social distemper—the fandament upon which all our laws and customs are based , is physical brute force . The representatives of thia principle uto the army and navy ; the next branches are judges , hangmen , constables , and prisons . The heart-blood of tbe nation is consumed by these vampires . To talk of liberty , as long as these circumstances last , or to . belleve tbat liberty and those circumstances can co-exist , is an outrage upon common sense . But it is unfortunately true that thd only animals who associate with their destroyers , yea , even respect them and even bow down before them , are men ; and that this is considered natural and necessary .

      " Misfortune is nothing but stupidity . " This sentence , written by a man of a thorough understanding of the world , is true in every sense . The stupidity of the people is their misfortune . They possess all necessary materials to make themselves free and happy ; but they do not know how to use them . They maintain involuntarily 'heir masters ; they forge their own chains ; they produce annually millions for their own oppression ; and they do not know how to s * ve themselves at a much cheaper rate . A very small minority

      wields tbe power , governs the nations , live in ease and splendour , and generally also in profligacy ; and at their faet lay begging those that maintain them . The angel * in heaven must weep at this spectacle of stupidity and degradation of men . How long will this state of things last ? Just so long , and no longer , than the time , when men cease to shut their eyes towards those powers which are stronger than armies and navies , and which could , if necessary , annihilate the heroes of mere destruction , and their frail machines of soft flesh and bones .

      " One hundred intelligent men will defeat all the glories and heroism of mere sanguinary military chieftains , and do more than armies of millions , whose soft flash and bones cannot resist a few small unfeeling machines , driven by some of those gigantic powers ( pointed oat in my " Paradise *') on land or on sea , and render all bloody heroism abortive , and wrs impossible . "—Elzler ' s Mechanical System , page 6 T . Bui our mission is not one of bloodshed and war , but of peace , of universal liberty . We do not wish to excite men to revenge , but we will show them a way to Jive in quiet and happiness . The time will coma , and is not far distant , when soldiers and wild beasts , lawyers , policemen , and all sach vermin will be removed from ths foes of the globe , and men- enjoy their birthright , their destiny , to live in peace and plenty , to partake of the riches of nature , and be unmolested in tbe possession

      of the results of their own exertions . And this change in society will be brought about without violence or war . Physical force men and military heroes will perceive that tbeir efforts to compete with peace men , provided with necessary machines , wonld be as useless as the efforts of competing , with manual labour against spinning jennies , or running a race with our poor legs , and heavy lungs against a locomotive on a railway , which travels at the rate of forty miles per hour . As soon as it would be mechanically certain , that every soldier , every man , who attempted to withstand such machines would be crashed to atoms , no one weald be so insane as to attempt a trial , and enlist as a soldier . Soldiers , and especially kings , dukes , and generals are as fond ef their lives as other men ; and they would soon forego the honour of being war men , if they had to encounter peace-men of the right sort .

      The mischief which has been done -to society by adopting physical force , as a guiding principle is incalculable . It has not only retarded tbe progress of the male sex , by brutaTzing it ; but it is the cause of individual and collective tyranny over women , ; " tbe wondrous master-pieces of God's creation / ' and their many insufferable miseries . They are therefore most interested in the discovery of naw powers , which they can direct and use as easy as the physically stronger sex . Their emancipation ia impossible as long as physical force rules human affairs . Universal liberty demands liberty for all—men , women , and children ; and none deserve liberty but those who desire universal liberty . In answer to various private letters from your friends ( and in anticipation of similar letters ) and the questions " What can , what ah ill we do , " fcc . &c permit me to

      say—1 . That all persona who are inclined to popularise E ' . zler ' s ideas for their own and the welfare of their fellow men , and who wish universal liberty , and are ready and willing to examine all proposed improvements , be they political , social , or mechanical , irrespective of names and persons , sects and parties , under the broad banner of universal principles ( not men ) , the guidance of Providence , and the assistance of tbe Scriptares and nature , shold form themselves in preliminary branches or auxiliary societies in whatever placa they be . - 2 . Tbat the number of members be unlimited , three being sufficient to commence a branch . 3 . That the members be numbered and recorded according to the priority of adherence .

      4 . That each branch make , preliminarily , each regulations as best suits the majority of the members , and in accordance with the industrial charter " locate the people on the land in joint stock freehold , and let machinery work for , and not against , the people . " 5 . That the secretary of each branch send a statement of its formation , &c . to C . F . Slollmeyer , he acting , pro iempore , as general secretary . The object we have in view , and the measure which we intend to bring forward for the amelioration ef the condition of our fellow men , is colonisation at home and abroad , on as large and comprehensive a scale as the want and desire for it will manifest itself . I am , sir , your obedient servant , C . F . SiOLtJiKTER . No . 3 , Northampton-terrace , City-road , London , September 30 th . 1843 .

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      Horse- Guards and aroand the metropolis , and shows that the most decided step 3 are about being taken by the Mini-try to put down the agitation for a Repeal of the Union in England as well as in Ireland : — " Notice to the Oat-pensioners of the Royal Hospital of Chelsea . —The Lords aad other Commissioners of Chelsea Hospital having had their attention called to the conduct of certain out-pensioners who have attended meetings held for the purpose of effecting a repeal of the legislative union with Ireland by intimidation and a display of large numbers collected together , feel it to be their duty to caution all

      pensioners against attending or countenancing such meetings . Any pensioners who . may attend such meetings after this notice will be liable to the loss of their pensions . By order of the Lords and other Commissioners , . ¦ •; - •• ? : < v "Richard NKiTEi Secretary-andBepstrar . " Royal Hospital , Chelsea , Oct . 10 . " — ¦ [ The same notice has been placarded tovaa Leedsj - ¦ * - ; *• ¦¦* ¦ ; " - ¦ •¦ ¦ ^ " - - Tsb Iatk Fatal Duel . — - Commander-in Chief has directed Lieutenant Munfo's immediate return to his regiment . It is generally supposed tn « Lieutenant Munro will not surrender at all to tase his trial for the murder of Colonel Fawcett ; out that his seooud , Lieut . Grant , will give himselt op at the next sessions of the Crimioal Coutt . —' Iteerpool . Times . Fhanok . —Marshal Soult is about to < ia » tha Ministry .

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      we now turn to the Whig Chronicle , and give from its pages two most important communications , apparently from the pen of a disinterested party , who has been jonrneying throngh Ireland , and pioking ap " news by the way . " We look upon those communications as of far deeper import than they , on the face , seem to be . Their appearance in the Chronicle , bearing tbe character tbey do , is most snspieious . The Chronicle pretends to be in opposition to the Government : bnt he has already called for coebcioji ! In the article with which he accompanied the news of the Proclamation , he saiJ : —

      " Firmness , tigotjb , even COERCION if you -will ; SUCH POL 1 CT 13 THE PiESEM POSTUBB OP - iFFAIBS !>• lXEiAJfD 24 AI BS SEEMED WISE AND NECESSAKY . The people of England are opposed to this mad project of Repealing the Union . Tbty are , with reason , opposed to it . In its realization they see the breaking up of tbis great empire , and are prepared to support AST MEASUB . E of any minitter UuU may be necessary to prevent the calamitous result . A policy of conciliation is what the justice and the common sense of the people wish . P / ove to them that that is of no avail , and a polict OP COERCION THE * WILL tolerate . But wnat they do not wish—what they will never tolerate—is the cowardly , sanguinary policy which Inres men , step by step , within range of death , and then , without notice , n"Tn »» irn his battery before there is time to retreat . "

      Here it ia ; a naked , undisguissd call for Coebcioh . The communications he has sicca inserted , and which we shall presently give , have been published by him to justify the Minister in seeking for power to place Ireland under Mastjal Law ! ] Being published in the Chronicle ^ an opposition Journal , they are a god-send to Peel : while the pretended revealments of the state of feeling amongst the Irish people are just those calculated to alarm , and serve the Minister ' s purpose 5 From the Chronicle the statements have been extracted into the Times , with approving eomnsents ! And thus the game h carried on . The people are amused by political distinctions and sham fights between tbe two factions ; while the factions uader 3 tand each other , andplay into ihe hands of the wieldera of power , so as to " put down , " " crush , ' , the "democratic spirit , " that would obtain advantage for The people .

      It ia net unlikely thit Parliament will be convened daring the next month s and have proposed to . thpm" extraordinary measures" to aid the Minister in crushing rebellion . In that case , we shall see good use made of the following alarming intelligence from the Whig Chronicle !

      T « the Editor of ihe Morning Chroniele . NO . L Sir , —Ab English traveller h 3 va been as rarely been in Ireland this year ai while men in Timbuctoo , some of ycur readers may bs glad to have an authentic account of tbe actual position in that country , from one who fur six wtfeks put has seen , read , thought , and spoken nothing but of Ireland . Up to the last day of September , in last year , the boatmen on the lakeB of Kiilarney obtained aeventy-f our days' hire . tJp to the same date in this year they -had" ob ; ained only twenty-five ; the diff-reuce being ' owing to tfee falling off in the nnmber of English touristB , of whom only eight or ten parties hue . visited the lakes this year .

      Having crossed the south of Ireland in a variety of directions , and conversed with people of every description , from the nobleman to the pe&s&nt , I ftel taat I am not guilty » f presumption in enabling my countrjmen to participate in tha result of my observations . One peculiarity ol the present extraordinary btate of the public mind in Ireland is tbat everybody speaks out . Tee Roman Catholic peasantry appear to be so confident in their numbers and nnaninn . y as to consider any concealment of tbeir plans or intentions quite an unnecessary p . fccsation ; and , as I was merely an English tourist , of wbom tbey had been accustomed to see many hundreds in tbe coaree of every year , they opened their minds to me with greater freedom tfean they wonld have done to any of the official or military persona resident in Ireland . On my p -Tt , as I had visited the enntry at a criris of no ordinary importance , I regarded romantic scenery and the other usual object * of a traveller ' s attention as of minor importance , and applied myself earefnlly to the study of the popular mind .

      Before I left England I took great pains to form a just epinion as to tbe real nature ef the popular movement in progress in Ireland ; and the conclusion I came towas theKime which has , 1 believe , been arrived at by the best informed persons in thlB country . The whole appeared to nie to be a gigantic piece of blarney on 0 Connell ' a part I believed it to have its root in tne vulgar , but nevertheless very powerful motive , of » ving Mnuelf from pecuniary Tain . Bstidea this , every oemagogue U , from the necessity of his position , obliged to go forward . - He * by profession a fiaher in atera 11

      * rM *» aj » , Tie d « magogne' « iE"fcs into inBignlt-StoiiEJaSiS * ^ '¦ •" pabUc — BitUe ^ O ^ mdl , bo dombfc , bIbo aimed at upwtttng the Sl ^ T > " « fettta « * instilments for SrtilSS ; ^* rtm > wd V **™ ! ike O'Connell , who faoJS ^ ** Hwnfiat year «** *™ » and 'who SttBftLTrSS , * S 9 TOrces of theBritiahnation , 3 , W . ^ f ^ fte n ^^ on of tbe-great majority , In SfiSw f ^' ^ -taWHgenee , not to Bubmit *) a tocSdibl ^ of Repeal , i , unlikely M to be really

      It soon "became apparent to me after my arrival in Ireland , that although this view of the case was per fecfly correct as far as O'Connell wm concerned , the

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      To the Editor of the Morning Chronicle , no . u Tbe most serious fnet of ail connected with tbe present agitation has yet to ba mentioned . There cannot be a doubt tbat the great body of the Koroan Cutholio priests have none into the movement , in the worst , that is , in tbo rebellious sense . Many of the priests of the old school , who had been educated in France and had seen the world , held ont for a time , but they were given to understand tbat if they continued to take this line , the shepherd would be deserted by his flock , and they were forced to yield . Two or three splendid instances are still mentioned of priests openly professing their duternlination to submit to any consequences rather than give their sanction to a movement which they know to

      be of tbe most dangerous and pernicious character ; but * he curates and young priests brought up at Maynooth have gone into it heartily , almost to a man . These young men are generally tbe sona of small farmers and other parsons of a similar rank in life . They , therefore , bring with them strong feelings and limited and one-sided information from home ; and at May nooth they are brought up , like our young Newmanite clergy at Oxford , to regard the church -a the sole object for which they are to live , and think , and act . Tbey have no property , no families of their own , to be compromised by a rebellion ; and as it wonld be inconsistent with the character of their sacred profession to appear at the head of their flocks in the field of battle , they run no personal risk . Tbey may gain , but they cannot

      well lose , by the result of a conflict . Some , more heady and enthusiastic than the rest , might even lead their flocks to battle ; but whatever tbeir conduct in tbis respect might be , there cannot be a doubt that the prevailing spirit of tbe priesthood ia correctly represented by the following expressions , extracted from the Epeeeh of the Rev . Mr . Ctintwell , pariah ptieat oi Tramore , at the late monster meeting at Lismore : — "He could support O'Connell with his voice , but be would support him with more . Look at that arm ( said the Reverend , Gentleman , stretching forth bis right arm ) . After the magnificent scene I have this day witnessed , I'll die a deatb , or see Ireland free . ( Tremendous

      cheering , waving of hats , &c ) " The priests hive given to ths Repeal movement all the weight of a religious cause in the eyes of a superstitious people . They form the medium through which an understanding is kept up among all classes of Repealers , and throagh wbicb practical ; instructions are conveyed to the people . The women and children are . sent ont of tbe chapel after service is over ; and the men are lectured on political subjects , and have treasonable pppers read to them , often for an hour together . I did not consider the movement as really alarming , until tbe conviction was forced upon me that the priests had gone into it in the worst sense .

      The primary object of tho priests is , no donbt , to get tbe temporalities of the Established Church ; but tbey have alBO a further 6 bjyct r ; which lies much nearer their heart , which ia to make Ireland a Catholic country . Everybody in the south of Ireland , both Protestant and Catholic , admits tbat if an insurrection were to succeed , the Protestants must either conform , er quit the country . O'Connell does his utmost to keep tbo religious character of the movement in the back ground . The same was done by tbe leaders in the movement of 1798 ; but the moment the rebellion broke out , it assumed the character of a religious war , and the few Protestants' who had been Inclined to join it , at once withdrew .

      Tbe object of tha people is to get plenty of work , and to obtain a favourable permanent settlement of their rents ; but they have a further object , which they look to as tbe inevitable result of a successful insurrrection , which is to get rid of the landlords altogether , and to divide the land among themselves—not mtrely the forfeited estates , bat all the land ; at least all which is in the possession of persons not thoroughly devoted to their cause . The result is , that we are standing on the verge of a religious and agrarian war , which would unite the horrors of the Jacquerie and St Bartholomew .

      O'Connell has for some time past been aware of this fact , and nobody has been more alarmed at it than he has been . He bas whipped his horses until they have run away with him ; and now , to hia dismay , he finds that he is not his own coachman . He has a gentleman on the boi , dressed in black . If any of the more moderate lay Repealers are asked what ia the ground of the confidence expressed by them that there wilt be no outbreak , they can only refer you to the priests . O'Connell himsejlf is now really as much in the hands of the priests , as far as this question is concerned , as we are ourselves . He has evoked a spirit which Is too strong for him . 1

      Nevertheless , he has lately done his best to set bounds to the torrent The following expressions , extracted from his apeech at Lismore , will convey some Idea of his real position : — " My heart ia filled ' wits delight at the scene that has been exhibited before us all this day—i ( heari hear ) . It proves that I ought to « bauge my portion ; I ought to become a different person frem what I was . Heretofore I waa an agitator , stimulating and exeiting to exertion , and endeavouring to persuade every person , by argument , that they ought to exert themselves to the very utmost— ( hear , bear ) . I think ;! must give this up , and become one of the Moderates —( laughter ) . Yes , the people and the priests are going beyond ine —( renewed laughter , and cheers ) . Bid you ever hear two such agitators as my reverend friends who precede * me —{ hear , hear )? They are outrunning me altogether , and I have become like the heavy schoolboy in the race . My own pupils are beating me —( great laughter ,

      The Repeal Agitation.—Yesterday (Sunday) The Following Notice Was Extensively Posted At The

      The Repeal Agitation . —Yesterday ( Sunday ) the following notice was extensively posted at the

  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Oct. 21, 1843, page 2, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct824/page/2/