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    • THE . NORTHERN STAR SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1841.
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      FSAHCE . —The Paris papers of Sunday havearrived . Gcn . Sihneider ' s amendment cm the project of alaw for fortifying Paris , and proposing to limit the works to detached forts , placed at 5 , 000 yards distance from the oresent wall , was rejected late on Saturday , by 235 rote 3 a # u& 3 t 175 . This is decisive of the law , which will bo doubt pass , and M . Thiers and toe King of the French will both hare « at-ied their point , of encircling Paris within a < sttl 6 of about twenty fortresses connected by an « Rtrenchdd walL— ChrvrMe , Saturday .

      New York . —The favourable winds have passed and gone without bringing any Colonial papers . It if the first time within our remembrance that a week has elapeed without a single paper being received . At eeeond-hastd we have a scrap of intelligence from Newfoaadland ; and one of thepacketthipe has bweght sosn news from New York . The latter , thotgh scaaty , is not unimportant . A panic had been caused ia the monev-market , by the publication of a retwa which exhibited the affairs of the United States' Bask in a worse light than ever ; but the accounts which hare reached this country are from a quarter hostile to the Bank . —Colonial Gaxetie .

      Ths Nat > F »* Herald of the 8 th of-January contains * a account of the wreck of the fine packet-ship Garrksfc . She sailed from Liverpool for New York in December , with a Taluable cargo of manufactured goods . On the night of the 6 th , x > r the morning of the 7 th January , she got aground about twenty-fire joilfis south of Sandy Hook , on the New Jersey shore ; bat bow she got into that unfortunate situasios had no * been ascertained . When"first seen , she lay about a quarter of a mile from the shore ; the sea was making a breach over her midships ; and the

      erew and passengers were collected on the quarterdeck . The master of the vessel which saw them was of opinion that all might land . - That all did land , was 4 eemed extremely probable , from the fac ; that two or three hoars after the first Teasel had passed the wreck , a second also passed , when , though sear enough to read her name , not a goal was seen en board . And a passenger by the Cambridge has stated positively that the greater number of the paesenzers had been saTed . Four steamers left New York on the * th , to offer assistance in

      re--eoTeiittg the cargo . Release of Ma . H . Viscest . —On Sunday , at two o ' clock , Mr . Yineeni was discharged from Uakham Gaol , by an order from tha Home-office , and was informed at the same time , that the indictments by the Wiltshire magistrate * were entirely set aside . Tbs Eael of Cabdigax . —The committee appoinied to make arrangements for the trial of the Earl of Cardigan met again Tuesday , in the Conference Chamber . The noble Earl has retained Sir William Follett , Mr . Serjeaut Wrangham , and Mr . Adolpbus to conduct his defence . The Attorney and Solicitor-General will appear as counsel for the Grown .

      O'Cojtkeu , is BarABT . —A member of the Mechanics' Union in Belfast writes us as follows : — " The mechanics of Belfast , having seen in the Belfast Vindicator an account of a deputation of various trades waiting upon Daniel O'Connell , at the Royal Hotel in Belfast , to tender to him the thanks of their respective trades , beg leave to Etate , that the individual who performed this ceremony on behalf of the Mechanics' Society , had no authority to do so . The mechanics and engineers of Belfast owe Daniel O'Connell no thanks ; for , if he could prevent it , there would not now be a trade society in existence . "

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      Cahada . —The detention of Mr , M'Leod , a Canadian , on the charge of having aided in the destruction of the Caroline , had given rise to various reports ; it was said that the British Government had demanded his release , and had been "positively ' refused by the American Government . No weight , however , can be attached to these reports , until they are confirmed oq more explicit authority . Nkwtocsdlahd . —The Governor ' s speech , on opening the Legislature of Newfoundland , represents

      that island as torn by electioneering dissensions , it is to be regretted that accounts from Newfoundland are frequently so imperfect , or so strongly tinged with party feeling , that the real merits of the case are difficult to be distinguished . The Governor intimates , that it the colonists persist ia their violences , they will prove themselves to be still unprepared for the self-government which has been prematurely submitted to them . Bat we have as yet only the accusation , without the defence which the colonists may have made to the Governor ' s aspersions .

      A ScBSCBimoa has been commenced for-the purpose of relieving the poor of Stafford / many of whom are in distressed circumstances , owing to a scarcity ef work . The subscription on Friday amounted to about £ 125 . Richakd Godsoh , Esq ., M . P ., has remitted the tarn of 100 guineas to William Boycott , Esq ., solieitor , of Kidderminster , for the relief of the poor of that borough during the present , inclement season . The Q , tjee * Bowagxb has forwarded , through Lord Howe , £ 20 towards the fund for rebuilding the parish church of Boylstoae , Derbyshire .

      Ths Thtbd Aiottxbsaet of the Stourbndge Iiteiary and Scientific Institution was celebrated on Wednesday Be ' nnight , by a public dinner at the Vine Inn ; J . H . H . Foley , Esq ., president of thelnstiteition , in * the chair . The report of the progress and state of the Institution , and the whole of the proceedings on the occasion , were most satisfactory . The President has given a donation of £ 20 to the funds , in addition to his usual » jmna . i subscription . The Socth Shs « pshikb Yeoxaxby Cavalry are expected to meet in Shrewsbury on the 4 th of May next , and will be trained and exercised on the new race course .

      The Dukb of Sutherland and the Hon . Colonel Anson were , on Tuesday evening , elected Fellows of the Royal Botanical Society of London .

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      TcBJt-our . —The colliers of Alkrington and Tongue hare turned out for more wages , their masters having reduced them to the point of starvation . It is fiid that the colliers of Oldham , Ashton , Staleybridge , and Hyde have also left off work , and are for standing true on * to another , until their wages are raised . The mechanics of Manchester have promised them their assistance , and other trades are expected to come forward and support them . Impartial Behstolkscb . —Much distress prevailing among the poor in the neighbourhood of Borslem , a public subscription was recently set on

      foot in a village near that town , for the relief of the distressed , and the apportionment entrusted to the priest , a ettrate . who rejoices in the name of Ellis . A correspondent writes us that , on the application of ose poor man for his due portion of this miserable substitute for more just arrangements of society , a book was referred to , in which the word ** Wesleyan" was found written opposite to the applicant ' s name ; whereupon the man of God exclah&ed , " I cannot do anything for jpu , I must consider my own flock , I cannot be a father to two flock *; open the door , and let him out !"

      EXTECSVE ROBBEET OF BaKS . OF EKGLAKD NOTES . —On Tuesday , information was received b y the police of the commission of a most daring robbery « f notes and securities , to the value of between £ 1 , 500 and £ 1 , 600 . The robbery , i t appears , occurred on the evening of Saturday last , about even o ' clock , when , aa a gentleman , whose name has sot transpired , was proceeding along Gill-street , in the town of Liverpool , be was accosted by two sues , of whom he is unable to give a description , who knocked him down , and , white on the ground , robbed him of an old red pocket-book , containing Bank of England notes of the valoe of £ 750 , * with securities to die value of about £ 800 more , with which they get clear off before he could raise an outcry or procure assistance , A reward of £ 100 has been offered for the apprehension and conviction of the thieve * , and recovery of the property .

      Steaks * Scdce . Chi Sunday Ee ' nnight , ¦ five women converts to the ridiculous doctrines of the sew sect , called Latter-day Saints , suffered them ' selves to be baptised , ia a pool of water , near Werseth Hall , Oldham ; their persons were entirely imttersed , is the presence of a preacher of the sect asd a few individuals . Hen ( WBH . —We understand the latter-day Saint jpecolan « j is Hkely to answer well ia this town , as far as the making of proselytes goes . A number of weak-Biinded feaaks were "dipped" in the tide , According to the dictum of the officiating Saint , on Ifeandav last , near the Poor-house Slip , about the

      £ b * of high-water ; and ia the evening of the same 4 ay , we « elieve , sos » of the rougher sex were soused all over bead and ears in the same element . The imposition of haods is to follow ; and each dupe , after paying th * fee , eaa then lay data to inspiration . Hontea prophets are becoming at numerous in Dooglafat the prophets of Baal were in the days of JBltfaa ; and toe former are as great impostures as she latter were—besides , the Mormon seen are greater knare * . We should not be surprised to hear of some of the fanatics paying the forfeit of their livelier beujgjuiltj of sack presmnptooos folly as p&njd&g into cold water at the present inclement tetmoMr-The Mint Liberal ,

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      LexDox . WEDXESDAT . —Great Catholic Meeting , IN fatove of Total Abstinence . —On Monday evening , a great meeting was held in the spacious theatre of the Mechanics' Institution , Soutbamptonbuildings , Chancery-lane , in favour of the above principle or pursuit ; at which the various sectional societies attended , and the building was crammed to overflowing . Six or seven priests were present , and a considerable number of the influential members of the Catholic body . The speakers were the Beverends , J . Hearne , Janch , M'Auila , and Telford ; Messieurs John Giles , M . P . Hayaes , W . Waddick , J . Corkran , W . Buckley , J . Callicane , sad X F . O'Leary , ( the Dake of Norfolk' s steward . ) Resolutions were passed approbatory of total abstinence , and from the known inflaence of the parties ia attendance , zosch good may be anticipated to result among the Irish part of the population of the metropolis .

      PBOM OUB LONDON COHBESPONDEKT .

      Fouith Class , National Chaster Association . —At the weekly meeting of lbi » clan , on Sunday last , at Mr . Hill ' s Coffee-rooms , Hornet-street , Marylebone , a vote of confidence was passed unanimously , " in that invincible champion of Universal Suffrage , Feargua O'Connor , and the meeting pledjwd themselves to use their best endeavours to carry on the glorious work of political redemption in his absence . ** Co-operation . —On Monday evening , Mr . Cameron delivered his promised lecture , at the ro « ms of the Finsbury Working Men " s Association , No . 9 , Little White Lion-etreet , Long Acre , llr . Davis in the ehair . The lecturer showed , that , if labour were properly represented in this country , we should have one of the best practical heuses of legislature in Europe ; and that , whatever evils exist in America , may be all traced to

      the competitive system ; as , notwithstanding the federal constitution , the rights of labour , as compared with those of capital , are not appreciated ; he then showed the benefit to be derived from a system of cooperation . In Clerkenwell they have been trying the plan on a small scale , which has answered beyond expectation ; they have dealt in beef , mutton , pork , bacon , butter , 4 c , 4 c ; the system is being taken up in the provinces very generally , and it will doubtless have , u it has already had , the effect of bringing some of the Bhopocrocy to their senses . At the conclusion of the lecture , a committee was appointed for the purpose of furthering the plan kid down ; a vote of thanks was passed to Mr . Cameron for his address , which being duly acknowledged , the meeting adjourned till Monday next , at the same hour and place .

      The . Northern Star Saturday, February 6, 1841.

      THE . NORTHERN STAR SATURDAY , FEBRUARY 6 , 1841 .

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      THE QUESTION OF DISSENT . As often as we find ourselves called upon to open out a great question to the pablio view , so often do we feel the inadequacy of our Bpace , and the unfrequency of our visits . If the question of the Suffrage , the Repeal of the Union between Great Britain and Ireland , and the Corn Laws , which are but units of the great whole , have been bo complicated as to make us devote much space to their developement , how much more at a loss must we be , in thus undertaking , in a weekly paper , a dissection of that question , which may ( under the denomination " Church" ) be said to combine the whole material of political warfare !

      We head our article " dissent , " because that is th » name of the new hobby-horse ; but our object is to consider the question of the Church" at large , not a Protestant Church , hut any Church which is the landlord of the State . The Protestant Church is an accidental Church ; for , had the Romish Charch allowed Hknet the Eighth , King , Defender of the Faith , and bo forth , to commit lewdness , incest , and adultery , without censure , the Reformation might have waited upon a less lucky accident .

      Th « Protestant Church , as by law established , may be fairly dated from 1688 , when the church became the feudal lord , and the state the vassal . They had , of course , their respective rights , but then the exercise of state rights depended much more upon clerical pleasure , than did the exercise of Church rights upon States' will , or any secular rale . The Church was the active , the State the passive , organ of the whole . " The Church , "—that is , let it always be understood , a Church as by law ettabtiihed , and by force mtdnlained—mtixia nothing more nor less than a strong political fetter , by which the party of that Church bind all ; not onlj of their owa creed , bat of the nation .

      "The Church" is ignorantly supposed to mean the congregation of those professing its tenets ; bat it is , in fact , no such simple or isolated thing . The Charch mast have its army , its navy , its landed inflaence , its ascendant secular power , in all cases , or it ceases to be "the Charch / ' Itissatkfied to derive its influence from tbe state , provided that influence extends to a legalised m < . » nop # 2 y of all patronage , whether lay or clerical .

      From the Reformation * ' to tto " gloriow revolution" of 1688 , the Charch was struggling for an entirety of dominion , as well secular as ecclesiastical and from 1688 till 1831 she held a eoaplete was / ex

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      dom over the destinies t > f Europe . The Dissenters , as they were called—that js , those whp found it impossible to hold political power without a splice of religious fanaticism , —the dissentients—made many onslaughts upon the monopolising Church ; but never did any party venture upon a purely political contest . TbuB matters went on ; the scenes now and then varied by the shedding of much human blood , and by cruelties and barbarisms the most revolting ; until at length , the enormities of the Church , and especially of the Irish Church , so shook the whole framework of society , as to call for the reform of 1882 .

      Russell , it appears , had enough of the Churchman about him to strengthen different portions of the outworks , yet he convinced the people that the abuses of the Church would be corrected along with all other abases , but not those Church abases which appertain to lay , or secular sections , and hence the trap into which the Noble Lord has fallen . He falsely imagined that he could let the Dissent Church loose , and Bet its foroes in full cry upon State Church abuses , while he acted the part of whipper-in , and drove the bounds from the scent of his own family possessions , as whippers drive them from oth « r game than that in chase . He thought

      that " ware Woburn , " and " go hark to Church rates , " would intimidate the pack . But he began to learn , as early as the first session of the Reformed Parliament , that there was no means of considering the pence without lugging in some thought of the pounds ; and then Russell turns his baok upon the Dissenters and 6 ayB , the Reform Bill was intended aa a Landlord's Bill ; and every one knowing that the Landlord ' s Charch is the Protestant Church , the new-light expectants took fire , and , for several years , dissenters' wrath has been bottled , till now it is up , and must get vent , or burst .

      Religionists never yet were satisfied , nor ever will be with equality . The most oppressed commence with begging for toleration , go on struggling for equality , and , at length , when they get strong enough , are ready to fight for ascendancy . From the declaration of RusselLj we may date the decline and fall of Whig power . The large newly-enfranchised towns , presented yearly , aye , daily , the increasing signs of dissent , by the stupendous places of worship built for the accommodation of increasing proselytes ; while stoves , to supply the places of the absent , were in demand , to keep old Mother Church warm ,

      in the latter end of her days . The old sentinels slept on their posts , and were seldom visited by the officer of the guard , while the new army of martyrs were ever on the alert , among their flocks , always at hand , and ever ready for attack or defence , and withal well sustained by that all-powerful auxiliary called novelty . They opened new roads to spiritual comfort , and said to the travellers , " Behold what we have done ! is it not sinful that you should be journeying on this new , luxuriant , cheap and pleasant thoroughfare , and yet compelled to pay toll upon , and keep in repair , those old , desolate , and unhealthy byewavs , which you U 6 e not ?"

      But when the new Reform , which was to representjtbese large towns in Parliament , had sufficiently taken political root , then would the dissent tree throw its fruits and foliage over all that great and mighty space which has been rendered sterile by the blighting influence of Mother Church . Then would she look for her army , her navy , her land , her patronage , and , in fact , for the fruits of her political ascendancy . Having blocked op the old road , and driven the opposition coach off , she would then say , " O , but we can ' t keep this road ia repair " without tolls , " and tolls as heavy as the old company ever charged would be pat on .

      Does any working man in England suppose that those who now bo valiantly fight for the religious freedom of dissenters , would as valiantly ( had they once the power ) confer that froedom f No ; the facility with which men reconcile these things is wonderful . Those who have been longest elaves are ever the greatest tyrants , when they achieve their freedom ; and abuses , which they kicked against when subject to them , are easily reconciled when they come to administer them to others .

      Let us first test the value of the present feint made by the old praise- God -bare-bones faction in favour of dissenters . Does any man suppose , for a moment , that Messrs . Hume , O'Cohnell , Easthopb , W . Ellis , and others , care two-pence if Baines and Thorogood were made into a Christmas pie , if such cooking of them would serve the political purposes of Whiggery better than dressing in a newer and more approved style for the palate of faction ! Is theirs a love of justice ! If bo , why not devote their overboiling patriotism to a redress of the more extensive abuses complained of by the Chartists , v » ho are in truth suffering for conscience sake ! Is there not a more noble spirit manifested by the

      poor working man , who , in defiance of all opposition to tyranny , refuses , withtut a struggle , to pay unjust taxes upon every mouthful he eats , and who even after all , cannot get justice , than can be discovered in the refusal of a person to pay 53 . 6 d . church-rate ? , well knowing that he will be well backed in his obstinacy , and that his martyrdom will be converted into subsequent ease and affluence f In the war of the Chartists there is all honow and consistency , while in the case of John Thobogood we discover this striking inconsistency : he denied the authority and jurisdiction of the Ecclesiastical Court , while he appealed to the jurisdiction of that very Court .

      Again , if the object just now was not to give a freshness to fading Whig power , why were so many poor Irish Catholics allowed to pine in gaol for sums varying from 4 d . to two or three shillings , and increased to scores of pounds by costs ! These poor fellows were , in truth , martyrs to the political and religious aggrandisement of others , and yet we heard but little about their sufferings , lest overheated agitation , upon bo tender a point , should not be as easily checked as roused , without producing some fruits , ( which is not the intention of the jugglers , ) for the use of the Dissenters .

      We mast never lose aight of the Btartling fact , that , at the period of the Reformation , out of nearly ten thousand ecclesiastics , not more than fourteen bishops , twelve archdeacons , fifty canons , and about eighty of the inferior clergy , held to the faith , and refused to barter the spirit for the flesh . And , in those days , the consciences of the churchmen were neither 6 o fashionable nor so politicallypliant as they are now . There is a great difference between men struggling for power , and men using that power . When the Whigs were in the former situation they were looked upon as guardian angels , while in the latter , they have been the blackest devils .

      It is , then , because we are not for another transfer from the gorged leech ( who should get his sop of compensation to quit his grasp more gently ) to the hungry slugs , who , though angels to follow , would be devils to meet—that we say to the Chartists—to those who look for the universality of civil liberty , in order to ensure the universality of religious freedom , stir not in the new crusade . It i * humbug . The eighth humbug within a very short period . Better keep the ills we have , Than fly to thoM we know not ot

      We have met and © entered the H-o-u-s-e-hold Suffrage mongers , the legality-mongers , the education-mongers , the emigration-mongers , the Corn Law-mongers , the white slave-mongers , and all the mongers ; and now we meet the monster under his new and more seductive mask of a cbnrch-abasemonger , come to try the last prank upon the political stage . If the old hacks of Whiggery could have succeeded with any of their former professions , this new effort would have been wanting : and , if they could have sufficiently relied upon passive obedience and non-resistance , none of these shows of liberality would have been made . Let the Chartists , then , bear ia mind that the Government , and the

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      Government hacks , aro not agreed upon any one question , bat that the Tonje party ia base enough to hold office upon the support of those who absolutely denounce them upon the public stage , as the beat , and indeed the only way to court popular favour and preserve patronage for themselves . ^ There never was such a union of LAMBS and tigers as that which our rulers and their bottle-holders present . If they professed agreement upon any one question , it would inevitably prove their rain ; they could not stand a moment ! Our Ministers are a set of jaded old beasts , whom the hustings ' old hacks , aa drivers , promise ( to the passengers ) that they will make step out , if we only help them to find out the raw .

      Let us instance the terms , and show the features of this unnatural union . The Ministers refuse even to repeal the rate-paying clauses in the Reform Bill ; while the backs declare for H-o-u-s-e-hold Suffrage , the Universality of the Suffrage , or any Suffrage . The Ministers consider a seven years' tenure of a fertile and productive Parliament too short ; while the hacks are for triennial , biennial , or any other duration that will do to fi * h with . The Ministers won't hear of even doubtful qualification for members ; the hacks are for abolishing of qualifications . The Ministers won't hear of the Ballot ; the hacks are , above all , for " the honest Ballot . ' *

      The Ministers won't disfranchise three corrupt and rotten colleges , and give their representation to large districts ; while the hacks are for equalising electoral districts . So much for coincidence of opinion upon the five points , and now for minor differences . The Ministers wont hear of even a fixed duty upon corn , while the hacks are for a total repeal of the corn duty . The Ministers wont relieve the Dissenters from payment of Church rates , while the hacks are for a total abolition of Tithes , separation of Church and State , and God only knows what else .

      The Ministers are determined to oppose a Repeal of the Union , to the death ; while the great rough-rider of thehaokB makes it a hustings sine qua non . The Ministers declare war , white the hacks bellow " peace . " The Ministers cry , "give , oh , give * " while the hacks bawl out for retrenchment . The ministers augment the army , while the hacks complain of a standing army .

      The Ministers imprison Chartists for conscience sake ; while the hacks cry "shame ! give to all liberty of speech . " In fact , upon no other question except ' * scratch me and I'll scratch you , " are the hacks and their Ministry agreed ; and yet these libertyselling , juggling , humbugging rascals go about , denouncing the Ministers ia the morning , and drinking their health and lauding them to the skies in the evening , as the only administration ever inclined to do justice .

      We sincerely believe that some of the Ministers had an inclination to do justice , but that their good intentions have been frustrated by the vampires who live upon abuse and fatten on the State ' s misfortunes . Don ' t our Ministers and their hacks , then , agree like Darby and Joan ! like fire and water 1 like cat and dog ! Perfect civil equality alone can insure perfect religious freedom . Let the Chartists , then , stick to the means , while the hacks and their Ministers ride on to the end . It is because we are for the abolition of ChurchabuscB , and all other abuses , that we look for the Charter as the only means of their correction . No more humbug .

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      WHO CAN TOUCH PITCH WITHOUT BEING DEFILED ! We find that Collins complains of being miareported in Mother Goose , and writes the following letter in explanation of what he did say : — To the Editor of the Leeds Times . Sir , —I have observed with some regret tfcat an error has been made by your reporter , or some other person connected with your paper , and inserted in your supplement of Saturday last , in which I am reported to have said , " Let the middle classes propose any measure of popular benefit , and it should receive the sopport of the Chartists . "

      I entertain no such idea , nor did I utter such a sentence . Had I done so , the Chartists would have immediately disclaimed such a sentiment . You will recollect that , I concluded my remarks by observing , that " no union would be effected without » uch a deflninition of the term Household Suffrage , as should include every man of mature age , and sound mind , etc , who bad a residence in a house , or any part of a house ;" aud further , that unless upon such terms , a union ought net , and if I could prevent it , should net take place . By correcting this error , as soon as possible , you would oblige , Sir , yours , &c , John Collins . Birmingham , January 25 , 1841 .

      As to this letter , we can only assure our good friend Collins that no definition which he or the most ingenious architect in Europe can give of the term H-o-u-s-e-hold Suffrage , will ever take ten supporters from the ranks of the " mental qualification " Chartists . We have as great an objeotion to hat , shed , or tent qualification , as we have to castle qualification ; and , upon the whole , as regards the social comfort and very shelter of the poor , apart from its political signification , a greater objection .

      Again , we ask those who have been all their lives struggling for more toleration , if they imagine that the old enemy , —the long-possessed faction , who so well know the value of the Suffrage , —will put a Parliamentary hut upon an equality with a lordly mansion ! No , no . Again , we say , so long as one man ' s property constitutes another man ' s title to vote , so long will the owner of that property have rent and vote , or it will remain untenanted ; being , even in that condition , more profitable than if occupied by a man who used it to protect the one thing of which the capitalist makes his all—labour .

      Does the disfranohisement of the forty shilling freeholders not furnish precedent sufficiently strong ! or must we turn to ihe present debate , now pending upon Stanleys Bill , which has for its object a further disfranohisement of even those who hold a " beneficial interest ? " And yet , a few hacks would persuade the people that a House of CommonB which can carry such a sweeping measure of disfranohisement , can , with their aaaiataace , be forced to put a hut upon a political equality with the most splendid mansion !

      We beg leave to assure all our mason and carpenter friends , that if such a measure were to pass , leaving the landlords the " right to do what they please with their own , " there would be an end to their trades for many years to come ; as the poor would be all' huddled into stables , in which , like travellers' horses , they could only claim a baiting residence . Collins , we are sure , will , upon consideration , retract his hasty concurrence in a definition of Houj > ehold , Suffrage , which is precisely , totidemverbu , the very definition of Mr . Stansfbld , with this single exception , that Mr . Stansfklb requires no proof of residence ; and this is the very principle Which Mr . Collins was deputed , by the Chartists of Birmingham , to resist .

      Birmingham is not going to relapse . Birmingham has already struck the chimney-pot , and substituted the untainted adult . Again , then , we say , that , henceforth , man ' s person must be man ' s title-deed to the representation ( by himself , or with his consent by his representa tive ) of his life , his liberty and his property . To go back , for a moment , ** to the working men who generally concur in Hume ' s definition , " we have this one powerful guarantee , that notone of those who were instrumental in drawing up the Charter can be meant , as suoh a backward move would inevitably consign them to their political tomb ; and , we are not a little struck with the fact , that O'Cownux , Hums , aad Wuxiahs , with Crawford , Robbbck , and others supporting , are appended to the origi&al

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      document , entitled " The People ' s Charter . " Is it not" passing strange" that the very march-of-intellect progression gentlemen should be the very staff selected to strangle their own bantling , when , it began to develope a mind of its own ! Is it not maryelloas that these very heroes , who complain of the stand still policy of the head of their party , should attempt suoh a retrogade movement themselves in the age of quick-step policy ! .

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      COLONEL THOMPSON AND OURSELVES . WKgive the following extract from a letter of Colonel Thomwon ' 8 , purporting to be a comment upon a portion of one of our leaders , in which we questioned the prudence of some of his observations in a former epistle . The Colonel says ;—" There is no doubt of there being everywhere the danger » f being cheated . But everybody is not always cheated ; careful and intelligent men sometimes avoid it And even if cheated , the Chartists would ; be no worse than before . What they are determined to-do

      without the middle classes now , and in some sort in defiance of them , they would only hate to do without them afterwards , and with all the gain which would arise from the compunction of the honester portions of them . Supposing the cheat to be ever so boldly . at * tenpted , there can be no doubt that a portion of some kind or other would be inclined to stick to the campact ; and by all these the Chartists would be the better . It seems impossible to defend the policy of refusing to try , when all that can be said is / it the wont comes to the worst , we shall only be where we are at present "

      In this paragraph the Gallant Colonel , so fond of old sayings , apothegms , and maxims , seta all , even "Poor Richard , " to one Bide . He appears to forget , when he speaks of only the " danger of being cheated , " that past experience leads to a fair presumption of the Certainty ; and " a burnt child dreads the fire . " But this is not the portion of the paragraph with which we quarrel . What we object to is the provision against the " worst coming to the worst . " Now , as the Colonel is a military man , and fond of military phrase , let us suppose the position of two armias , and the Celonel to be the historian . We give the following extract from his account of the middle class and Chartist campaign : — .

      " Although ihe force of the middle class was far inferior to that of the Chartists in point of humbug , this disadvantage was more than counterbalanced by recent success ; while the Chartists , broken down by defeat , and weakened by dissension , become panic stricken and fell an easy prey to their less numerous , but better disciplined and more united assailants . The effect of the victory is prodigious , and has so scattered and distributed the chartist army as to render it next to impossible to inspire them with any confidence in their own officers , to whose want of prudence they ascribe their defeat "

      Now , we shall say not another word upon the subject , farther than to observe , that if the most wily politician was paid for recommending the most effectual means of completely annihilating Chartism and disbanding the Chartist army , he could not , have hit upon any means more certain that that of recommending a union , the fruits of which were to be the " worst coming to the worst , " by the Chartists being again—as they have always been before— " cheated . " Let us ask the Colonel who , after that , would again undertake to restore them to the confident and commanding position they now occupy 1

      We are happy to perceive that we speak not our own sentiments alone on this matter . The letter of the people ' s friend , O'Connor , given elsewhere , and numerous resolutions of the people , recorded amongst our Chartist Intelligence of the week , cheer and invigorate us with the knowledge that the people are awake , and that their eyes need no rubbing .

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      SHE TRIUMPH . Ths enemy is vastly mistaken if lie imagines that we intended such a dish— " a diBh fit for the Gods " —to serve but for one repast . No , no ; it was too sweet : and , as " the nearer the bone the sweeter the meat , " we mean to pick it to the rery bone . Last week , in a summary of facts , till then unknown to the publio , we exposed the trick and chicane practised by Fox Stansfeld and his party ; but since then we have arrived at the knowledge ot more facts , which we now proceed to lay before our readers , from the columns of Mother Goose herself .

      The following confab took place upon the Saturday after the battle , as it appears , at a " senatus consulium" of such fragments of the routed forces as could be got together ; We give the thing as we find it . It is headed , "The Rotunda Meeting ;" and rans on thus : — " A meeting of leading reformers , friends , and members of the Leeds Reform Association , took place yesterday week , at two o'clock , in the Rotunda of the Cloth Hall , for the purpose of devising the best means of carrying on the movement for further reform .

      " Mr . Hume was called upon by the Chairman to state his opinions on what he considered to be the best means of producing a union of the middle and working classes , and carrying on the movement Mr . Hume remarked that one of the first things the Association ought to do , was , to put out their definition of Household Suffrage , as few were at present agreed upon what that ought to be . Mr . Hume submitted a definition of what be considered Household Suffrage ought to be , which was to be taken into consideration by the Association . He stated that the leading men of the working classes generally concurred in the definition , and had promised to give their assistance , were an agitation for such a Household Suffrage to be set on foot

      " Mr . O'Connell cordially concurred in the suggestions of Mr . Hume . He considered it as of the first importance , that the reasonable portion of the Chartists should be got over to the aid of the rational reformers . He urged the necessity ot some central body being established in London , for the diffusion of knowledge upon political subjects . The public mind should be saturated with facts bearing on the present gross defects in the representation of the people . Mr . Roebuck said that such a body was at present in contemplation is London , and he trusted that it would very speedily be set in operation , so as to act in concert with the Leeds Association . "

      From this bit we learn much . We learn the disgrace , the weakness , the duplicity and knavery of the Fox and Goose Club , who , it now appears , were ready to abandon " the fixed , the immutable" principles upon which they were associated , for any claptrap which Mr . Humr or any other person might recommend " to carry on the movement" and " * effect a union of the middle and working classes ;" and Mr . Humb tells them that the first and most necessary thing , was to agree among themselves as

      to the meaning and definition of Household Suffrage ; as , at present , few were agreed upon the question , and he submitted a plan of his Parliamentary H-o-u-s-e . ( Joe bad a plan of Parliamentary bread for the Spitalfield weavers—it was brown bread . We hope his electoral qualification is of as low a standard . ) The Association promised to take Joe ' s plan into consideration . What an escape we had from these blind leaders ! They would have upset us in the very first ditch , and a wet one too we fear !

      But , let us have the marrow of Job ' s bone ; he said , " that the leading men of the working classes generally concurred in the definition , and had promised to give their assistance , were aa agitation for Buch a H-o-u-s-e-hold Suffrage to be set on foot . " Here Job uses a sweeping term , " generally concurred . " What , then , have the river pirates and the " eocktailed gingers " of the old rump been at work ? Have there been bole and corner meetings apon this subject 1 and who are the " working classes generally" ! Aye , aye ; we were awate that the scouts

      were on the look-oat for fragments from the wreck of the good eMp , Charter , out of which they had in their fanciful imaginations built a tight little bark for Whiggery to float a little longer on the stream ; bat they hare been mistaken . We were not asleep ; we knew what was to have been the sequal of a Whig triumph at Leeds . We told the people that it was to have been followed by a similar side blow at Chartism , at Leicester , Manchester , and Birmingham ; and by a whip in London . Hence , we saw the full value of our triumph at Leeds .

      The Beggarmtfe follows ; and he who has made so much of Irish ignorance , recommends , of all things , a knowledge depot" in London ; as , no

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      doubt , some Btray pence would be flying . Ano ^ "dear Ray , " might be slipped in as secretary , "jl national bank , or Dam , "pro * the national , mi ^ be treasurer , and a few of the " eocktailed giogQ , « might be thus knowingly provided for , by ^ Humane Humbug Tract Society for the diffusion * blarney and Whig claptrap . Well , * ' leetle" Roebuck comes next , and as ] i speech is very " leetle" we give it twice over . g . says , in speaking of an association ia London t , co-operate with the ghost of the defunct Fox u Goose Club ,

      " That such a body was at present in contemplate in London , and he trusted it would very speediiT ? set in operation , so as to act in concert with the w Association . " ^^ We will trust Roebcck , and give him long tjA for the fulfilment of his promise , provided he trg * U 3 , that the very moment such an auxiliary bra « A meuagerie shows its nose into London our Metros liian Chartist Brigade will serve it just as we ^ served the parent stock at Leeds ; and upon a se «^ attempt perhaps not altogether so unceremoiriom ) . We threw down the gauntlet at Leeds , and ^ we throw it down for London . We dare any pjjj ,

      to get up a single meeting for the adoption of ^ definition of H-o-u-a-e-hold Suffrage—nay , we | L them every Leader , and Lord Brougham , O'C ^ well , Hums , Waklet , Leadeb , Wabbi / rtox , ^ the rest to select a chairman from , and w « will pj ^ our 4 th-of-January carpenter , who took the cliaii g White Conduit House , or Neksom , Spurr , or g ^ other working man , in the chair , in spite of the * and carry every one of our resolutions in spite of t ^ teeth ; and , upon the following week , we will ed ^ to those who are sceptical about the existence of % "fly horse , " a correct representation of a flyij . H-o-u-s-e , as we faithfully represented the roow

      menagerie . Now , this is bold . We challenge them—we dan them—we defy them , and we give them every nm they can crimp—every bit of "ginger" they can p ^ chase , and our provincial delegates shall outnuabo the H-o-u-s-ehold ambassadors . No , no ; we were not caught napping ; nor * fl we be so now ! London is garrisoned ; and no pad service , even though it were half hanging , ea reconcile the troops to one single move of a pin ' i point from the thing—the *' Charter . "

      We have long since said that agitation is now {^ cheap and unfashionable , in its new form , to arrq | the attention and command the services of yeiitlena too idle to work and too poor to do without it , So much for the Rotunda meeting , projected aliiaae ^ and new definition of H-o-u-s-ehold Suffrage .

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      TOO FAR NORTH . DiPLOMATisra say that Napoleon ' s greatest bit * der was in going over far north . His faithful minister Carnot , endeavoured to dissuade him from ! a Russian trip , but he was positive . We , also , vi Dam ' s friends in Ireland , endeavoured to dissuvfe him from hi 3 Belfast and Leeds trip , as being om far north : but , like Napoleon , he permitted vanity to triumph over prudence , and he has fallen a ? icti > to his folly . The prostitute press of Ireland would endeavour to hold his head above water in the hon

      of bringing him safe to shore ; and would foolishl y persuade their dupes that he was well received it Leeds : while hie friends here swear that he triad his best to be in time . Let us just contest this latter point . He had finished , and heen fi nished , at Belfitf , on Tuesday n \ Rht ; and as we have a map before « let us see the insurmountable , obstacles vriii 4 presented themselves to prevent his pnnctual srrinl in Leeds . We shall chalk out his journey , and shew that he might , without losing an houri rest , have performed it in a muoh shorter tins than was at his disposal *

      Suppose he started from Belfast at six o ' clock < n Wednesday morning to Dublin , eighty miles ; he would , without killing a poor horse , arrive then it two—that ib , m eight hours . Three hours mtii then be allowed for rest and refreshment . He could step on board the Liverpool packet at five , arm * in the usual course at Liverpool at seven on Taun > day morning ; one hour to Manchester , and fe » thence to Leeds , would have brought him to tie scratch at twelve o ' clock on Thursday , without Vhe slightest fatigue ; allowing him aeven hoars' sleep on Tuesday night , and twelve hours on Wednesday night .

      - But Daw would not have shewn his face in Leedi on Thursday for a year ' s rint ; " and the Irish praa know it . They'll hug him to death at last , poor wretch !

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      MOTHER GOOSE'S LAST ADDLED EGG . In her endeavour to account for the phenomena of Chartist triumph , in their first single-handrt struggle , Mother G < nse discovered a mare ' s neat . ia the fact that O'Connor had done all . That failing she , last week , made the notable discovery that tb » Tories supplied the sinews of war . This assertion we regret being compelled to contradict . The poor Chartists never have the good luck to be able iodraw from any secret-service fond . We should have much more pleasure in avowing the fact tbu in being constrained to make an appeal to th&

      ¦ country for supplies to meet the expences of the bin war . We should have felt no delicacy whatever is Jbeingableto meet every twenty shillings of For Marshall ' s money by a Tory pound . Mayhap , her addle-headed ladyship would have us receive oar contributions by the smell 1 Well ; even in that case we should have no fear of our olfactory nerrtf suffering any inconvenience from Whig munifi&en » for any but Whig purposes . The question withu is , not whence the funds come , but how they an applied ; and if £ 5 . 000 had been contributed by

      Tories , and applied in furthering the projects of ths Fox and Goose Club , would the worshipful Secretary have cried "Shame ! shame ! ' or * Bravo 1 bravo ! " We shall feel much obliged , and bo will the Committee , if Whig , Torjr or u Radical" ( . ' ) will send anything toward ! the expences of the battle of brains agsnut bricks . However , it is only fair . A beaten foe , ani especially a "captured garrison , " may be excused for trying every expedient , whereby to diminish tha ignominy of diminishing defeat , disaster , and disgrace , by magnifying the power of the enemy .

      Thus does each new fact intended for detraction but add to the importance of our triumph , of which Mother Gvose , \ n alucid interval , ia compelled to spesk thus , and with which we close our observations . Shesays , in talking of the mill fight : — "Thebelievers in Household Suffrage were tonguetied ; they lacked utterance ; and even those whoa they put forth to advocate their principles , con ' ceded ihe main point contended for by their opponents . "

      -Now , can language furnish stronger terms a proof of the inefficiency of a body who were to hat * kicked the world before them , and who nevertheless , and upon the very first struggle , remain in the passive and humiliating position of seeing thenselves . oold to the parties whom they had assembled to bay , and by the very brokers who came to value the goodB and strike the bargain ; and above all , while their party consisted of the whole population * save and except " tixomnibussesfuU . " Apropo , talking ' of omnibusses , how many would now " comprehensibly" contain the scattered frag ' meats of the defunct geese , and what sixea * pie woald the giblets make J

      « T Since the above was ia type we learn from the u Chartist Committee of Management , " that their funds fall much short ot the expence they warsobliged to incur . Their balance-sheet will shortly be published—with an appeal to those of their brethren who have not yet Bent their mite in aid of "Daw ' s Chartist Welcome , " to do so forthwith . W » Will anticipate them a week or so . We make that appeal forthem « ow , and we call upon the Chartist ! to respond .

      The Committee also purpose , ( after collecting * i much from their own friends aa they can , and should there ^ be a defieU , ) to wait upon "the Doctor with their bills , and request him to pat them in «»•

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      CITY OF LONDON NATIONAL CHARTER

      ASSOCIATION . SOCIAL KEETIHG JOB THE BEHEFIT OP MESSES CABBIES AK » PEDDIK . On Monday evening , a social entertainment took place at the Dispatch Coffes House , Bride Lane , Fleet Street ; the proceeds to be devoted to the benefit of £ he wives and families of the above-named victims . The room was neatly decorated with evergreens and banners , ta also with portraits of Frost , O'Connor , Oaatler , Collins , fcc . ttc At eight o ' cloc k , about fifty persons sat down to a substantial mta !; and on the conclusion of the repast , the following grace was « aid by Mr . Parker , the Chairman : — ' Grant , O Lord , that the sons and daughters of toil may be speedily put in possession of their rights , in order that they may daily partake of as good fare as them hast been pleased to bestow on us this evaniag . " On the removal of the cloth , and prior to the proposal of the first toast , Mr . C . Keen sang the Marseillaise Hymn with much taste , and was loudly applauded .

      The Chairman then rose to propose the flrefc toast — " The People^—the only sourc « of all legitimate power . " Tkey had met on this occasion as the advocates of universal right—the advocates of the fatherless , the poor , and the oppressed—and though giving up an hour or two to harmony , they would keep in view , that there were several hundreds of their brethren now pining in dungeons , or eating the bread of bitterness in exile . ( Hear . ) Were the people in possession of their political rights—were the Charter carried , there would be found sufficient intelligence among the industrious classes of this country to operata on all the other classes , for the advancement of their social position , and the establishment of the true prosperity of the country . ( Loud cheers . ) He concluded by calling on them to respond to the toast , which was received with all the honours . Song , by Mr . Rsinsley , " A awn's a nan for a' that " Citizen George , in an animated address , proposed tha next tout : —

      " Frost , Williams , and JoDes ; and the speedy return of all political exiles and prisoners to the bosoms of their homes and families . " ( Loud cheering . ) No cheering , my friends , said Mr . George ; we must bury our feelings in oar own breasts for the present . This toast must be drunk in solemn silence , to testify oar retpect to the objecU of it ; and -we'll have the cheers whe& they are amongst us . The toast was accordingly received with an a udi b le sil e nce , the company upstanding . Song , by Mr . Tipper , " The Exile of Erin . "

      The Chairman called for a bumper to the next toast , which was , " The Sorthem Star , and the rest of the Chartist press . " ( Long eontinBed cheering . ) The applause showed that the Northern Star wzs near to their hearts ; and that though its noble originator , was as a caged lion at York , he was here spiritually present among them to night ( Applause . ) In an apposite and perspicuous address , the Chairman dilated on the various topics comprehended ia the scope of the toast he propose d , aud the company simultaneously rose to respond to it , by three times threa . The Correspondent ot the NorOtem Star , briefly acknowledged the mark of respect to the proprietor and conductor of that paper , and expressed much pleasure in observing the lively and heart-stirring enthusiasm with ¦ which the name of Mr . O'Connor was hailed , by those for whom he had dared and endured the loss of

      liberty , fortune , and cas t e ; it was the knowledge of thus living in their memories that would cheer him in the dungeons of York Castle , and invigorate him to a fresh deploy of his powers , when t&e period of his imprisonment shall have expired . Song by Mr . Hodgios^— " With Charter flags in all our hands , to meet him we will go . " ( This song was very much applauded , aa being in anticipation of Mr . O'Connor ' s liberation in November next , and taken from Mr . Hick's book . ) Mr . Scott proposed , " The Charter , and may it soon become the Jaw of the land . " Drunk with considerable cheering . A liberal collection was made for the victims and their families ; the chairman formally resigned the chair , but was unanimously re-instated , tor the purpose of " harmony only , " and conviviality was maintained with strict good order , till " the iron tongue of midnight hid tolled twelre . "

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      4 THE NORTHERN STAR . __

  • Citation
    • Northern Star (1837-1852), Feb. 6, 1841, page 4, in the Nineteenth-Century Serials Edition (2008; 2018) ncse.ac.uk/periodicals/ns/issues/vm2-ncseproduct365/page/4/